 Hulk, then he'd be here. Yeah, the Hulk fan club. We are the incognitos. What are we, the Averthid mintsia, Hivermectin? What are we, intelligentsia? Oh, yeah, intelligentsia. That's oh, intelligentsia. Hell, yeah. Yeah, it was nice of them to put on that quote from those members. Oh, oh, man. It was like I was going into a goddamn mirror. Oh, yeah, no, dude, I hated it so much because I just related to it. God, I was like, this is I have entered into a family space. And the wise words of Sienna Fuega and Assis, we often hate those who remind us of ourselves. Exactly. Matt, I just know I just want to call women females. But now now they've exposed that I think I'm not real to get. In a few months time, we won't be able to address them at all. Old bettas alone. You will not be able to. It's like in the olden days in kingdoms where you weren't allowed to touch someone of royal blood, right? You won't even be able to refer to a woman. Yeah, you do the thing when you touch something, you're like, oh, that means that the first sound they're going to hear is me making noises. Well, this time I mean, it's fine without failing something. I'm kind of myself. You know, happy ghost floating around. Oh, yeah, that's right. We can be in the episode with me making weird noises. And of course, Fringy can book into this stream with him with his flimped noises. Fringy is not here at the moment. He's going to grab Shad because they're in Australia. He's going to run down the Shad store because, you know, it's Australia. I think they might even be like it might even just go to a different room in the house because Australia, I'm pretty sure is not a country, right? Street or a house. I think I think so. I think it's a country that is a street country. Yeah, yeah. That's how Rhode Island got its name because it was just a road. And then they built an island around it. The big reveal was Shad was doing like a late night stream and in the background of his camera, you could see this green guy walking past and it was like, wait a minute. Because wait, that's a bird. Yeah, that's a big green bird doing. The Fringy's back, where's Shad? Hey, look, all right. I'm tired. OK, I don't have all the answers. I don't want to answer. That's an odd way to answer that question. That's fair enough, though. That's fair. That's fair. Oh, what? What things do you talk about? Me, oh, five, ten minutes. You know what I'm going to mention is that new movie that's come out, Black Adam, anybody here looking to see Black Adam or has seen it? Adam of color. A little bit of it. What was it? It's African Adam. I don't care because I am a gait and I'm a maverick. I'm going to call him by it. Well, it's Teth Adam, actually. If you were a true fan, you'd know that. Blackadder. Well, I love Blackadder. Anyway, you said you watched a bit of it. What do you think what you saw? Me, something you know, OK, I was making sure that I just was being set up to fail. I was annoyed by the fact that the rock didn't have an accent. It was really like some stupid shit. He's totally just playing himself like he doesn't. Yeah, I don't really to me. He's because he's clearly tried to play some form of a character. I just he was not. He's if I were to compliment Black Adam, it wouldn't be because of him. No offense to the rock like you you were there. But yeah, I actually it was weird. When I came out of the cinema, I was like, hmm, I didn't hate that. Yeah, weird. Like in the beginning, it made me laugh. This kid was like, oh, I think it was him as a young kid or whatever. He's like, we don't have to be slaves, dad. He just swiped this jewel and ran off and I'm like, kid, you have to have a plan before you get that stupid. I was just like, well, so he's dead. But I think he was right behind your death warrant with your jewelry. They were going to kill him, but then he teleported or something. It's very strange. Oh, my God, don't spoil it for us. Sorry. Oh, my goodness. But this is a spoiler free zone. A lot of people are making fun of Black Adam for being camp and goofy. I think that's probably fair. I would have just called it cringe. There's lots of cringe in the film. I would have just called it cringe. The part particularly with a sort of a Mexican standoff sort of moment. That part was not only really bad for like special effects, but what are you doing? You'll know what I mean if you've seen it. But we might we might just cover it because I find it really interesting in terms of where's the DC you go in next and get the impression before she was out. I wish the answer to that was the garbage can. Just I hate it. I mean, yeah, it's terrible, but they're not trying to make money about it. You know, they're never going to stop trying to make money from it. I am fascinated that this is where we're at now, like the next era of the DC. And fun enough, I think that Pierce Brosnan as Dr. Fate was kind of cool, it was kind of fun. It was a long character that was interesting. So what am I talking about that, too? So I don't think I'd recommend the film if anyone's wondering about that. I don't know if I want to go that far. Yeah, San Francisco Chronicle film reviewer said it was possibly the worst movie ever made. The way he wrote it, his opening line was the film doesn't deserve a bad review because that would imply it was a movie instead of something else. Oh, man. So it sounded to him like it was just hollow, just completely pointless. So the impression that I get because I've yet to see it, the impression that I get about like what Black Adam is going to be is like bad in the way that films used to be considered bad, like with thin plots, you know, or like some stupid as opposed to sort of the chasm where we're at now, like how bad superhero we can get. It kind of did feel like it should have come out in Phase 2 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, right? Whatever that may mean. You know what? Well, we'll try and get some people to see it so we can all talk about it because it's a weird one. It is a weird film. There's some humor in it as well, where I was just like pretty sure that's ripped from. You know what? Terminator 2. Yes, yeah, yeah, definitely Terminator 2. It's really hard to separate that out. Oh, and the kids, the kids acting. I've seen people complaining about it. He was awful. Yeah, I feel bad for pointing it out about child actors, but this one was noticeable as hell. I was like, when he did like as a part where he delivers like a big big old rousing speech near the end of the film. I was like, stop, stop talking. I beg you, please just say one word, just go like, we can do it. That's all you need to do is. Oh, anyway, we've got to be fair. I can't even waste time talking about anything else because we've got three whole episodes of She-Hulk and my God, the last one is dense. Watching these three episodes is the longest month I've spent in my entire life. Yeah. Well, She-Hulk episodes might be dense. But do you know what is not dense? What's that? This dick. It's this thing you need to show for me. It's the what? It's this thing you need to show for me. Oh, right. I'm going to have a I'm going to have a video done, like maybe like tomorrow. I did the copyright check and everything and I was able to so like after EFAT, I'm going to be like like rendering it and finishing it. And if all goes well, it'll upload tomorrow. Can you believe that? Can you believe that shit? I don't know. That's insane. That's nuts. It'll be two and a half hours. What is this madness? What absolute madness, insanity. This is the rags plusy. He's not the dense, he's floofy. Very nice to rub your face against it that you won't be heard. It is the rags 2.0 plush from makeshift. There are 15 days left and after that it is gone forever. So please click the link. Where is the link? I don't have I don't have this kind of power. Is it in? Oh, it's in the top of the thing. This is why you pay the big bucks. But I would really appreciate it if everyone gave a look at it. It looks great. It's a little bit different than the first gen one. He's got his little bottle of make the movies better. And he's got a really great expression. He's all loungy. He turns out great. And you will see him pose next to the rags 1.0 plush in a video that may or may not be releasing tomorrow. Probably will. But who knows? I don't want to promise things, but it's cool to see him next to each other. And of course, they're again, appreciate anyone who gets them. I would really, really appreciate that. Yeah, rags are dog bites. No rags, the official rags main channel, two and a half fucking hour video. We're doing it, boys. Long boy. It's happening. What's happening? We're making that one of friends, making friends, making friends. I would say that's true. Yeah, so we will remind you about this wonderful little plushie here and there. You've got some time left, but, you know, when it starts to close, like, oh, every second that goes is a second that you will not be able to acquire again later in the future is a very limited offer. It will be terrifying. Yeah, if you don't buy it, then you you are a you. God, well, I got mine. That is good. You're not one of those. Likewise, I'm doing. Yeah, I always come out when I have no money. Well, if you can make if you have 15 days to make some amount of money. So if you can do that, then this could be yours. And you could put it next to a modern free. I hope someday if I start scheduling streams so I can listen from the beginning, I try very hard to start them at 7 p.m. BST Saturday every single week. Just rewind, nigga. You start them like every week at one p.m. Central. Yeah, it's always the same. We've been doing that for, I think, literal years, literally years. I think you're right. Yeah, I just don't put them up before going live. That's the one thing I don't do, which I don't know if I should do. I've never really known if I should be doing that. Anyway, listen, I don't want to delay a wonderful guest for me to talk about a show. They very much enjoy I feel bad. I'm like, oh, gosh, this is good, man. So I'm wonderful to have you lock back. I can't say that this is going to be easy. This is and it's going to be progressively harder to because the first episode is cringe. The second one is like, oh, and then the third one is just there's no words. It was a nightmare. And so I was not expecting it. I suppose we should get started and I'll I'll I'll set it up by saying the last time we covered she-hulk precious precious chat, you'll know that we talked about a wedding and it was just this guy who was perfect in every way, shape and form, talent, our main character, how perfect she is. And very satisfying to watch. And then she threw up and she beat someone up. Remember all that? That was another episode where it was just like, what are we doing? We've got this episode, which is possibly the most filler episode of the whole season. They really waste time. It begins with a downwards viewing angle of a toilet, which is cinematic language for this show is a toilet. That's kind of a compromise to you. That's true. A toilet is it serves a very important societal function. That is very true. There's a utility to a toilet that I appreciate. Yeah, plus it's too nice of a toilet. Oh, she gets that because you hit your cock on the rim when you're pooping. Oh, no. No, I think it was a Hitchcock movie when they first in the first time in cinema. Yeah, they showed a flushing toilet, which is right. I think that's actually right. Since they kind of ruined. That's right. I think it was the first flushing toilet. That's what we call degeneracy. OK, speaking of degeneracy, I'm glad you brought that up because I think and I I've heard this, I don't know if it's true. If Fred and Wilma Flintstone were the first couple to be shown in bed together on TV, my God, really? I think so. That is what I've heard. So it first off, it is hot because if it's drawn, that makes it even hotter as opposed to the real thing, of course. But that's what I've heard. So I don't know if that's real, but maybe someone could you tell me I'm wrong or that I'm right or that I'm just handsome and pleasant to be around. But we can carry on with our toilet show. Well, yeah, and it's just good to know these facts. I think it keeps going, you know. So what else can you say? We get a montage that lasts real fucking long. It's like, yeah, you shower and she puts on music. She gets dressed, she drinks, she he arrives, they go for like food and like a drink, they go home. Then they're texting while she's in a meeting and then they're close, but then no, and then another date and then they see a movie and then they finally fuck and it's like, OK, fine. This is this is responsible dating. You only enter a woman's abode or domicile after the day or yes, after the third date, it is. It's a that is the Disney approved amount of time that you need. And am I right? Bullshit. There was no there wasn't even like a kiss until that third date either. Right. Yeah. Was there a kiss on the second date? Well, Disney goes zero to 60 really quick. No kissing or retouching straight. The night you kiss him is you better be fucking him. I think the question about this is like, we waste so much time and then we skip through an entire relationship. It's like, why didn't you have him being built up through the season so that it actually matters when he steals her blood without her knowledge, by the way, which I thought was hilarious. How do you do that? How do you do that? How do you puncture the skin to wake her up? Didn't bother. Oh, yeah, without waking her up. I don't know, because look, I know lots of ways to steal women's blood without, you know, that's why we all have our. We all have our favorite methods, of course. Me and a friend of mine had a theory that she he collected her blood going down on her when she had her period because because it doesn't make any it doesn't make any sense. I mean, that I mean, logistically, I assume that that would actually happen. I assume that she Hulk men straight. Well, I guess it's only Jen in this would be green. We do have a vampire later in the episode. So, thematically, it does line up. Well, our fat. Now, you make everybody make everybody fall. OK, we've got to stop. I'm going to garlic you. Yeah. And so how do you feel about the blood question? I'm not talking about that. He's not a vampire. Very right. Very right. Well, is this does bring into question if Jen in her human form, is she invulnerable like she Hulk is essentially? Well, so remember in the last episode, she got punched by a Titania super duper strong and flying and she was fine. Oh, OK, so it's Bruce is really got hurt. Remember Bruce got hurt in the car crash. She started bleeding. Yeah, but they just ignored the fact that effectively a sledgehammer swinging into her face would would destroy the skull of a normal human. Excuse you. This is a fun lawyer show. So that's not what happens in fun lawyer shows. Well, neither of those two things are true. So why would you lie to me like that? So her green form, her green giant form with a large feet, that's just aesthetic purely. There's no actual utility to her being large and green. I think you're right. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure she's an element, right? I'm pretty sure she still has this dread well, because they imply she doesn't, right? In the first episode, it's like you got a she-hulk up and help those people and it's like, couldn't she just help them normally? Well, maybe she keeps her invulnerability, but doesn't have her strength. Maybe. I don't know. Which is confusing. Yeah, it's confusing. You have to break us, yeah. Oh, you guys made a big mistake in looking for consistency. That's not real. That's not real. I'm sorry. So off the end of that montage, she sends me a message saying that was fun. I can't stop smiling. And then he doesn't reply and she's getting incredibly upset about that. And I was just I remember when I first watched this, I was like, you're not serious that this is the plot line. You fucks a guy and he doesn't call back. Yeah, she's a woman. Yeah, like I will. Guys can be very, very clingy after they sleep with someone. They could like they then they're the one texting Craig. Well, yeah, and if it was that I don't do just as pissed, why is this? Why? But you know, if you sleep with a guy and then he never responds to you ever again and he took your blood and he took and he took your blood. You took those cheeks. He's up to no good. OK, he is up to no good. That is. Yeah, that's one of those red flags, red because of blood. That's how that works. Red because that's absolutely. Uh, so, yeah, he goes to work and the fucking first thing we get is like, oh, you didn't tell me you were nominated for female lawyer of the year. Wearing the most clown outfit I've ever fucking seen. I was just like, oh, the show is such a joke. Like she's been awful. She's been actively awful as a lawyer, but she's winning the female lawyer award. I mean, this is a damning indictment of all female lawyers in this universe. She rises to the top. She was better than the rest. How bad they must be. The only thing she seems to have done is win one parole hearing. Everything else is done by other lawyers. Yeah, and that one parole hearing was absolutely disaster. Like it was really bad. They literally portaled in their witness who then became a criminal and ran away. And then she represented him the next week, day or whatever, in a court of law. Some people do that. Of course, he kept like talking about sending what's his name to like a whole dimension, the the source or a guy. Oh, yeah, either that or just trap him in the mirror dimension is chill. Yeah, because I guess that's like Wong's priorities. It's not like Wong is very dutiful, like it actually very much by the book. I mean, from what we got of it, it did seem like his main problem was how he's upset and jealous that the guy is operating, not that it's like unsafe and shit. We just do whatever we want with characters, despite their pre-established traits. Yeah, well, you see, this is a different format. It's a different genre. It's a different creator. They should be allowed to do whatever the fuck. OK. It'd be so critical. That's such a weird argument, isn't it? It's a different genre. It's like it's the same continuity. Yeah, I guess they didn't realize that serious characters exist in comedies as well. Yeah, exactly. They're in this universe. They actually provide a really good jumping off point. You guys remember Idris Elba in The Office by Siri? But yeah, she's like distracted, I guess, and she's like, oh, no, you're not going down a rabbit hole in that intelligentsia site. Are you? And then she's like, what? No, I don't care what a bunch of losers say about the odd line. They can't even say it to my face because they know they'd get hulks bashed. All right. I find that utterly bizarre, like it's just a scene that I think this might be like one of the most insecure shows that I've ever seen like in my life. I don't know what would be in the. Yeah, I don't know what would compete with it. The show is reeking of insecurity and this need to self validate. There are so many scenes in the show that are like written for Twitter. And like just think about like that scene. They couldn't say it to me a fictional character because I would beat them up. Like, what is that? They would never insult me because my reaction to that would to be used just violence, you know what I mean? Like it's like when people on Twitter would be like, ah, God, I'm just like, she's made up like what? Well, not to mention, she's already packaged in the justification. Like, so you're telling me you'll kill them if they say it to your face. They should probably say it online then. Is he a toxic masculinity? A little bit. She's the one who's displaying the toxic masculinity of anything. That's what she said. It's hypocritical. Oh, OK. All right, I got you. Crush, kill, destroy whenever I am criticized, which yeah. Well, I say that obviously the people we're talking about in this universe are people who make a site where they're just like, she's a she's a female. That's evil. We got to stop it. All right, because you get the big bombardment of all that in episode nine. Yeah, we'll get to so much. We'll get there. It's like, dude, the places we're going to go chat. Oh, my God, you're not ready. Adam is the abysses, the depths to which we. Dr. Seuss is rolling over in his grave. And so, yeah, we got another like montage of her just being like, man, you won't call me back when it's like, yeah, yeah. OK, just keep and then she gets a call. Emil Blonsky's inhibitor is malfunctioned and they can't check with him because they've allowed him to be without any internet connection like off the grid, essentially. So if ever so, they can tell whether the inhibitor is working or not, but they can't contact him in any way, shape, or form, because that wasn't stipulated at all, that he has to be in a place where he can be contacted within a certain amount of time. That is absurd. He is abomination. Yeah. And so they have to send someone to check if he's abomination. It made a ton of sense to me that that they would have an inhibitor that presumably works off of a cell signal with no cellular service. I mean, that that was perfectly reasonable. That gets double fuck in like five minutes from now, but we'll get I mean, you'd think because it's the government, they would have like overhead like surveillance, like helicopters flying over his compound every few hours. And because it's this government, it's this fictional government that has a giant facility for housing super villains, superheroes that when when spoiler alert, when they show up to arrest She-Hulk or whatever, they've got like pulse rifles that will presumably be a danger in some way to right. Otherwise indestructible things like abomination can be shackled by technology, but they don't have they don't have a little bit of money to like, you know, I don't even have anything. I don't even have drones. They, for anyone who's wondering, they call Jen because he needs muscle, basically. And it's like, well, but he's the government. And he says, yeah, but there's no resources to spare. No, for abomination. Come on, I assume you could move around a few years. It's half a day's work, too. It's not even like you go there and check, you just check. It's a ticker across, basically. And some, yeah, somehow the government is just now this guy. It's like that's all they got. OK, absolutely fucking ridiculous. But whatever, fine, this is the fate of it. It's only going to get worse for abomination. OK, guys, I'm sorry in every way you can. So I think it's absurd that they would have set him up in such a way that he doesn't he's not allowed any Wi-Fi. You'd think, especially in this day and age for in universe, like Nick was saying, they could get Wi-Fi anywhere, not just like in general, but also set it up anywhere they want. I would assume. Satellite, yeah, Internet. So I don't I don't know. It's hard to believe, especially because what even year is this now in universe? Like 2024 or five, I think. And they've combed up with like stock technology, Wakandan technology. Oh, yeah, because everything was more technologically advanced even at the beginning, like even in Iron Man, this, you know, there's a bunch of like the suit, right? Like the suit is not something that's achievable now. There's always been future. Allegedly, they don't know what they're hiding from us. No, that attitude. It's weird, too, because is this not like a government mission now that she's she decides something? She's like, go in as as a muscle to possibly prevent a supervillain from annihilating people. You know, it's just so casually done. It's just like, well, who cares? And this guy is going to bring her along because I guess it's just how things work, whatever. Well, I mean, she she should be that like she should be there as his attorney, although it shouldn't have been the government calling her as his attorney to let her know it should have been him calling her saying, oh, government's coming to my house. I need my attorney present that. I mean, that's how that should have gone. But I mean, her being there isn't isn't that weird. Him then relying on the attorney who's invested in the client and represents the client's interests in all things to save him from the client is exceedingly stupid. It's like the government. Imagine, you know, there's a suspected murderer and the government wants to go like some guy's supposed to go search his bathroom and the attorney is there. And it's like, look, if this guy gets out of hand and tries to stab me with a coat hanger, I'm going to need you to back me up. Yeah, don't worry, fam. I got you. Like, what are we talking about? Oh, I hate this show. I hate it. Well, hey, you're only going to we get all the bad stuff out of the way, right? It gets better in the. Oh, yeah. All the last episode. It's only uphill from here. Woohoo. I'm excited. You're excited. He arrives at Emil Blonsky's place. Do some abomination wrangling, I guess. And hey, there's the Jolly Green Giant joke. That's something, right? Yeah, yeah, that's something. It was a joke. Fakely self aware. Yes, turns out Emil has not turned into quote unquote, I guess I should say apparently hasn't turned into the abomination. It's just a glitch. And again, I wanted to think of abomination and then I wanted to think of Emil Blonsky being the character who is thanks to channels like Jay Longbones and others that I'm even remembering this because like some of this stuff is just so long ago that I need to rewatch it to actually understand, but he's not a nice person. You might remember the incredible Hulk. He's he's a bit of a meanie. Yeah, you could say that. You know, ego driven. He's not very hungry. He breaks a lot of havoc in in New York. Happily killed. Every time they stay. It's a fun joke is that he has changed. Ah, right. He's changed from somebody who his pure motive was that he wanted to have a fight and to prove how strong he was and he was willing to cause that much damage for absolutely no cause. Like now look at him. He's reformed. He's good now. I'm sure it's not a great. And it would. I mean, given that he even broke out of prison, broke out of prison to go to a fight club. And but we we pinned all that along. Like that was a long run away and he was never apprehended. Still fleeing justice. If you see this man, please die of a local law enforcement. So yeah, the man who would he shoots dogs just for making noise. He'll like beat up anybody who's just getting in his way. That's just like, wow, that's evil. That's how you know he's super evil. You guys this this is the reason his inhibitor went off because his favorite chicken silk feather was stuck in a fence and he wanted to save it. So he got shocked. He doesn't seem like the sort to have an electric fence to keep his chickens in. Nor a favorite chicken, but it doesn't sound very. The thing about Tim Roth's performance is like he comes off. There's some parts where he comes up very sarcastic. And I'm thinking is Tim Roth not give a fuck or is he going? He must not give a fuck. Abomination. Like, yeah, that's why I figured like he just doesn't give a fuck. Clearly by the finale, we figured out that Tim Roth's performance was just him not not caring. But it's like just weird performance beats like that. I'm just like, I think you should do something with this. I always assume they've been promised more like it's like, oh, Tim, if you do this series, which is a bunch of bullshit, it'll take like a few days. We'll get you into that the next Hulk movie or something. Mm hmm. I always wonder about everybody's more excited for than ever. Yeah. Well, I'm very excited for the next Hulk movie after the new Hulk character has been introduced. Oh, yeah, that's that's quite a tease, isn't it? Hulk fans are joining the MCU. We'll show you what he looks like. Nobody was happy. Nobody was happy about it. No, not a single person. So then Jen's about to leave and other guys already left. There's a reason why they make him leave in a hurry and not her. But then there's some guy who's like a bull and some guy who's definitely not a matador and they are fighting and they happen to destroy Jen's car in the process. So she's forced to stay here now. And I remember when I found that I was like, oh, God, we're spending the whole episode here, aren't we? No, I wouldn't learn more about this incredible place. And don't you want to, you know, what if Josh calls back? You know, that's, you know, that's really important, guys. Yeah, that would progress the plot or whatever. Why doesn't a boy like me? So I only wanted with my blood. He sees this guy called Manbol and he just goes, I'm Manbol. I'm a weird lab experiment, don't ask. And I had a thought when he said that. I was like, you know, we've kind of hit the point now where like they used to be a bit of a, let's call it a decent focus, a vested interest in continuity to some degree, only to let like bits and pieces through. Sometimes big pieces. I'm not going to deny it like, you know, in phase one, two and three. Yeah, it's kind of just like, you fuck that up, fuck that up. But you'd even get, and this is really crazy, sometimes you'd get films that try to repair it. Sometimes they try to put things back together where other films pull them apart and you're like, OK, cool. I would call the world cohesive to some degree, at least at some point. I think everybody would pick a different time, but that's totally fine. It is impossible to describe it that way now. And it kind of seems to me that it starts out as like a few cuts and bruises. Let's call it to to the continuity of the world until like some creators will just make some big holes and some others will make really big ones. And then some of us will build on the big holes and everything just gets like break broken open. It's like it's like a Gengar tower being assembled with parts missing. The further off it goes. Yeah, like thinking of the super soldier stuff, time skips, people's ignorance of time skips, like always treated. And then like events like the blip and obviously all the horrendous moral stuff that loads of people are doing that has huge implications on countries and that nobody ever cares about is just like no connections to anybody in any way, any more or contact with other powers and stuff. And there's no more contrary of like how things are going with. I was about how funny is this, like with law in the law show. I could say that no fucking clue. The show thinks it makes a couple of attempts at exploring interesting questions. But yeah, no. Who knows what's going on with like freedom and safety in the world in terms of or what the average person thinks about anything like what is the average person feel really and truly about the nature of superheroes, not just as like a meme about how they're orphans or something. Like what do they actually believe about the superheroes and the role they play in this world? Yeah, and then put the multiverse on top of all that. And it's just like, yeah, everything's blown apart and shredded in the hands. All right, sorry. So no wonder we're like, we can just look at some random guy called Man Bull. And he just says, I'm Man Bull. I'm here now. Don't ask questions because that in phase two would have been like, what? But nowadays, that's like, yeah, that's chill. You kidding me? We blown over the universe, the multiverse. This guy's chill. Who cares if it's a bad bull? You can just get superheroes willy-nilly. It's by the way, it's worth showing people who might have missed it in the last coverage, the incredible visual effects work, like incredible, the incredible scene with the fight. Well, they have no time and no resources. They just did not. Well, yeah, as evidence, I think we pointed this out as well. But look at the look at his leg, the the hair prosthetic. So gross. No, that's not that we have a we're going to have the nip this in the bud right now. That's not a prosthetic. They just shaved everything else, all the rest of his hair, except for that. Well, so that's totally natural. Same thing on his arm. They just shaved all of his hair except for that spot. That's why it looks weird. I have a feeling they dug this out of some drain after several months. That's what I can. You just slapped it on with some Elmer's glue. Oh, hey, Elmer's. Because it has the ball icon. Oh, like Elmer's. But I shall. Don't you agree? Oh, that looks bad. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait, hold on. Just wait. Oh, God, the momentum is wrong. It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't make it's just not like it's not right. It's like they did choreography in front of a screen and sped it up. You see the frame where he flips? Yeah. Yeah, look at that. That shit is really funny. It's a motion blur. So whatever happened is either they did it wrong on set, like or something just went wrong or they didn't have time. It's like you have two days to finish this shot or something. Get out of his leg, bitch. Yeah, it's just totally rubbery. You see him like this. He's clear at a position and then bull bulls have rubbery legs. It's a well known is a well known fact because the thing is is he stops and he starts rolling like he's not the momentum isn't carrying through. It changes, changes directions. Like, yeah, he changes. He like it's it's just all wrong. Like it's not right. It's it's not right. Well, she looks awkward as well, but I think his badness is kind of overshadowed. Well, I mean, but I guess it's the thing is like the the visual effects like she hope it's so remarkably inconsistent. Like, I don't know what it is. Sometimes it's fine. And then other times it's really like awkward and noticeable. And I mean, it's I mean, we know the like it gets addressed kind of an episode died, but I guess yeah, there's plenty to be said. Yeah, I don't know. So yeah, it's they've destroyed a car now and so she's going to have to hang out here while it gets fixed. And then in a rare moment, I guess I I relate to Jen the most around about here when he goes, the other guy is like, I'm not a Matador, I know who I am. I'm a swashbuckler. And the other one's like, you talk about it like it's a job, but it's not. And then the other I think Tim Roth is like, Manball sees everyone who tries to stab him for being a front to nature in not Matador man. And there are many who want to stab him like. This is the weirdest like pseudo homo narrative. I've never seen a homo like these guys. These guys kind of like each other a lot, right? That was a payoff or something. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit like codependent or something. Yeah, codependent, but he still doesn't want to be stabbed by the swarthy, possibly Latino man. So you're for their bad times. They think it's hilarious that we might think of him as a Matador when he's not a Matador, that's like the joke, like, OK. I do think there's a latent gay joke in there, too. Well, like, oh, yeah, definitely. Like I'm totally not gay sort of thing. It could be allegory, you never know, you know. And then you go Jen says, wow, so much a necessary backstory from two people who just destroyed my car. And I'm kind of like, yeah, let me just deal with that. Fuck the back stories. I don't care. Pay for a car. Yes, I mean, everybody's an asshole here. So I guess he specifically did run into that car or throw him onto that car. Yeah. It's just sorry. I was just thinking like, oh, I'm I'm manballed. I was a lab experiment. Don't ask me questions. It's like, yeah, you know what? In this world, it really makes sense to repeal the Sokovia chords, doesn't it? Yeah, I wanted to create human stakes in a lab. Oh, dude, it's become clear that the world is an absolute chaos. The horrifying magicians can sue people for what they said. Like they said them to a deeper dimensions and nobody seems to really give a shit. It's just like, yeah, right. And also, there are experiments that are creating crossbreeds between man and animal that are that then end up in like retreats for therapy. I don't I have no other would you want to be the kind of animal DNA? Do you want to watch the longest animal? I think it's probably kind of blue wild, right? Like, oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure blue wild is the longest. Would it be relative to I guess maybe it's a tape. Would it be? Oh, yeah, tape. Now, Google says blue whale. Oh, yeah, but I was going to say like relative to their, you know. Oh, so they're not like too thin. What you mean to say, Moller, is you don't want an animal that is necessarily large. You want an animal that is long. So you would say relative to like the size of their head. I think so. I'm not sure how you do it, right? The size of their something would probably be an anaconda then, right? Yeah, that's what I think you should go with an anaconda because they are very long and they're not like they're not thin, but they're very strong. So they're kind of chill and they're kind of chunky boys. I'll be a Moller. Some people just drive, I'll be chill. So, like, I do expect to see you expect to see a meme. Moller, the extreme that is Moller, but an anaconda. Moller, I'm not saying I expect you to do it. I just expect it to happen like I expect it. And I'm sure it'll be very amusing. You'll have like a little snake tongue coming out of his like mask thingy. Just like, look at me, I'm a Moller condor sitting here in the Amazon. They're in the Amazon, right? I think so, yeah. They're in what? Thanks, which is basically being in there for like 95 percent of their lives. They're in movies with John Boyd. Oh, yeah, there was an anaconda. Well, no, what's it? Oh, my God, what's the name? Oh, no, I forgot. Jennifer Lopez. Yeah, that's right, like. But she was one of those, right? Yeah, Jennifer Lopez was in there, I think. Yeah, and I would swallow. I would swallow Jennifer Lopez whole. But if I was if I was an anaconda, swallow her whole. Yeah, you know, if you do one, you do the other by necessity or I suppose, I suppose, right? Well, yeah, I don't go with yes. Anacondas are big. Yeah, I'm just looking at. Yeah, I thought they were like 30 meters, 30, 40 meters. They are. Yeah, that's a and they're thick. What does it mean when they put reticulated before like Python or whatever? Like, reticulating spleens. I don't know. What does it mean, reticulated? I have no idea. You're a lawyer. You should know when you have to defend anacondas. Ticulation is a legal term. So according to the Wikipedia site, yes, reticulated Python is a Python species native to South and Southeast Asia. It's the world's longest snake and is among the three heaviest. So you'd be a chonker. You'd be a real chunky boy, which is just fine if you're that size. It's like no one looks at a whale and like that fat ass. No, it's big, right? It's going to weigh a lot. Like a Python like this, you're like, yeah, that thing a fat. It's just as big and it's kind of terrifying. Yeah, I believe it says a reticulated Python is one of the few snakes that actually praise on humans. Neat. Well, I don't think that's neat, but. I think it's neat that nature is allowed to do what it wants. I'm not restricting it. I'm just like talking. But just like talking to that nature on its course. It was it was added to the Lacey Act, which prohibits trade in wildlife fish and plants in the United States that have been illegally taken, possessed, transported or sold. Well, because you can get like a pet snake. I presume you can't get a reticulated Python, though. That sounds like. That sounds like. People, snakes, yeah, it's like they're they're they're very chill. That's the fact about certain. They like to they don't like to move and work around. Well, it's kind of mean with a lot of animals, right? Like the like the animals like a lion, you know, people are all lion. So fierce. It's like 90 percent of its time is just spent sitting around doing nothing. Yeah, because it's so fierce, like it's so fierce that it just sits around like one role and the jungle knows they know that's right. The lion is the king of the jungle, because that's where I accept. He's the king of the savannah because they live in the savannah. Well, it's all here. Yeah, I. Propaganda. Well, I've seen, by the way, several ads as a chat that are like, oh, well, it relates to how their muscles come together. And I was like, OK, and then someone else said it's the pattern of the skin. It's actually how the bones are connected. I was just like, OK, I. But you have to be wrong. If you are a baby, you're all right, you know, all of the above. Let us know. Is that what it's called? A snakeologist? What's the Latin name for snake? It could probably be that all of us, right? I think serpents is the. That's makes a lot of sense, actually. But they'd be herpetologists, right? I'm not an expert on the terminology. It says herpetologists is someone who specializes in the study of reptiles and amphibians. Hmm, frogs. Frogs and snakes from Latin from because they all have herpes. Nice. That's pretty cool. We learn a lot on this. We really do. So, yeah, we're now going to spend the episodes getting Jen some signal because she's still trying to see if her who guy has sent a message back. That's that's where we're at. Spotline guys just making sure you're up to date. This is such an excellent commentary on a woman. God, just so good. It's like so empowering that her entire life has been taken over by a guy. She slept with one time after three dates and one brief meeting at a at a wedding that like now she's like, oh, I've let you into my world. This is so empowering, a wedding she only went to show off herself and you have a meal, yes, trying to push her to find meaning in life that goes beyond her phone slash this guy. This is like. Oh, and the phone is just the choices. Yeah, the show's kind of pooping on him for it. Oh, it definitely does. Even though he says some stuff that I think is absolutely correct. And the show definitely makes a joke of him. Whatever, they do that a lot. So they asked to just push the car away and yeah, she's God, do you remember this where they're like, help me push it? And he goes, do I look like a mechanic? My name is Manbull, not mechanical bull. Oh, God, that's terrible. Man, like, you know, the first the first draft of a joke doesn't have to be the last draft of a joke. They fixed it, though, because when he says it, one of the characters is like, you're working on that for a while, huh? And I'm just like, the writers were working on that one for a while. Yes. Yeah, like, oh, my God, it's like they're actually sitting there working on it for a while. It's like, fuck, like, oh, well, what if we just happen to acknowledge that? You know this happened when I was like, he's a bull. You know, mechanical bulls and there's a car. There's something there. Maybe like if he combed it with a car, it'd be like mechanic. Can't make the car is fixing. Oh, I'm almost there. And then they start writing notes like, oh, this is going to be so good that they say it and the rest of the team are like, haha. Oh, it's moments like this. I am reminded that the writer of this started off working on Nickelodeon shows. Oh, yeah. Nickelodeon. Maybe what did they do with all that slime? I don't know. Bring in a form of glue. I'm pretty sure we talked about that. I'm not I imagine that they're like adjacent, but they're not quite the same thing that like slime or maybe we'll make maybe glue is like the overarching category and slime is like a type of glue. If you think about it, maybe I don't know. I'm not saying I'm just curious where all the goo went with the Nickelodeon stuff back in the 90s. They were being very liberal with their new dispensation. I just wondering where that I think it's the slime, isn't it? The accountant who's trying to do it's like, you got to cut back on the budget for the slime, right? It's the slime budget. His numbers. This is not cheap. We have to go through a portal to like this crazy dimension to get it. Like it's not. You got to go to your spring and on kids. He's got to account for all of the goo. And so he has to hunt it down, like where did it all go? Where did it all hide? Who's been hiding it? And there's also like goo merchants and goo dealers. Yeah, like you got like a scruffy character in the world, like the janitor who's secretly collecting some of it to trade to make money on the side. It's like really with the grief. Oh, wait, wait, wait, so in the 90s, if you tried to get illegal goo, you'd have to go to the GAC market. You guys remember GAC? I hate that joke more than the mechanical bull joke. GAC is great. So anyway, Rags has a plushie out. Yeah. If you we were maybe he'll remember one more incredible jokes like this by buying my plushie. So I cheat people. We have incredibly low stakes and easy to do drama. And yet they fuck this up because she says her primary concern is that she wants to check if she's been texted and so she needs service. So it's like, you know, I think the highest that the stakes have been in the show was when she helped threw man bull up in the air. Yeah, unless she jumps at some point. So it's weird that she can't get any cell reception when we've just established she has to do something here for a couple of hours because the tow truck isn't going to arrive until the afternoon or later that day. And now I was just like, how did you contact the tow people? I wonder because it wasn't through the internet. They have no Wi-Fi. You must have called them by a telegram. Yeah, it was mostly it puts out its own signal or something. Well, the car broke and just said they'll be on the way. Is that what we're supposed to? I mean, I know this is maybe a landline, but. Well, then you have to use the landline and what's the point of everything? Like they talked about it and they never they never allude to that, too. But even if he had a landline, that's a solution right there. She hates the fact that she's stuck here. Why doesn't she call a friend? She could even call the the the guy back, the one who just left. One thing I want to point out is when she loses the signal, like she's trying to get another one and she's walking around. There's this fucking obnoxious text right above her that says no signals. Motherfucker, we get it. We can sell by the way, she's holding her phone over her head like a fucking moron. There's no reception. Look, that that two feet will make a difference from space. She could probably like just jump her way back home, right? Yes. What's the level of it? Yeah. Yeah, she could run back home. Who is that chick? Who is that chick in the boys? Hera Matilda? What was her name? She could jump really far. Oh, Maeve. We know Maeve. Maeve is like Maeve. You could just swing. He was fly. You know that you can. Yeah, we know she can do this because one Hulk can do it. Two, she trained with Hulk on doing this, on jumping. She can do it better, almost certainly. Oh, yeah. And you just go to aim for like the grass. You know, don't fucking around. I was sitting there. I was so sorry. I was sitting there yelling at my wife and I'm like, why aren't you just jumping? Just jump, just jump. Yeah, you know, it would have been funny if she just jumped up in the air a few times and was like, OK, I can see the city from here. I'm going to go this way in this direction. Yeah. Use the landline. Call the government guy who's just with you, say like, motherfucker, they broke my car, come back, pick me up, and then the tow truck people will get your car to the wherever it's going to go, then you can go meet them later if she truly didn't want to be here. But I think seems to me just wants to be here. She'll just find an excuse to hang out. Because these are a wonderful set of characters for about to meet. And my God, do we spend a while in this room? You really do. This is the episode of She-Hulk and, you know, generally, I really want to drink. Yes, it's the bottle episode. Well, I guess in that sense, it's yeah, it's it's a it's a different kind of bottle episode. It's it's a very bottle. You should buy it. It does have a bottle. That's true. And it can be yours. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I just want to say, by the way, the guy who ran off immediately, they have a throwaway line for like, wait, he's already gone. It's like, yeah, he he's really scared of abomination. And it's like, OK, you understand, like they had to get him out of there because if he was here as they both left and then a car got destroyed, he would have just offered her a ride, obviously, like that. And that would have solved the whole thing. A man offering a woman a ride in this show. Hmm. Only if he gets in the passenger seat and let's her drive. Her drive. This is this is my car now. It was one line from from Blonski, it was a little sus to me, just in a culty way. You know, no, it's nothing else, just a little bit of a culty way where he's like talking about the different things they offer here. At one point she's she points to somewhere being like, is that what you do? Well, then he says that's for platinum members who get exclusive private spiritual constant consultation, like in a place with no Wi-Fi where you like control everything, you have to pay extra and you'll get exclusive. I think Nixxiom is on my brain. I watched the documentary about it. It's like, God, I would trust it is shit. It's price. I'm 17 year old girl in there. So. Oh, it'll just be anybody who's rich, I guess. I got the I got the impression the platinum members were the stupid superheroes that he's counseling. I thought that might be it, too. Because they're trying to set that up. I think that, yeah, because I'm sitting there, I'm like, OK, so this is going to be like part of the villain story, right? Like these guys are all going to actually be bad guys. There's going to be this cover thing. Yeah, where it's no, I mean, they didn't deliver on that. So don't worry, guys. There was no there was no actual subtext going on. It was just completely vapid. But so but I got the impression they were trying to convey that like that was the platinum level, these this this group of people. They just host. They might be right, actually. Intelligentsia, though, yeah. Oh, God, well, I will have to break all that. Yeah, we'll break all of it down, because it's difficult to explain. But yeah, he. There was a theory the second he came onto the show, we were like, so he's lying, obviously he's lying. But you'll find out the truth of whether or not he's lying soon enough. They soon enough could be ours from now, but soon enough. That's all right. You'll find out the truth of whether or not he's lying. That's a an interesting little little phrase phrase there. Carry on. So yeah, they don't carry Wi-Fi as a policy, so she can only find it in one place and it happens to be where they don't know why. Don't know why you would have the no service thing popping up over her head. It's like, I get it was to help you understand my thing. I think I think it's excellent. They did it in rings of power to help you understand the name of the Southlands had changed, very useful, very loved. I think it's inspired like labels, like people are going to start labeling things is so useful before we go on. And before we forget, can I just say that I despise the music in this show? Can I allow you to say that? I just knew. All right, all right, then. Well, the part where I got my. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm trying to I'm trying to do a thing. I really hate the music in this show. All right, it's been said for any carry on. OK, I was just going to say that there was a episode I was when I was getting particularly upset about the music related to one particular character. What I what I guess was his like little leitmotif in this show, I did not like it compared to what you. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That was that was like that was a song. I didn't like it. No, I know it was I was just adding to that. I figured that was the one you did, but I Running in all circles in the corner while I hum to myself the Indiana Jones name when wait It can't really be a spoiler because most people know about it and it's it is what it is There's nothing else to it. So anyway, but at the end of black bad, but then at the end of black Adam Henry Cavill does show up as Superman and he's got little little curl and he's got the Outfit original colors the red and blue and John Williams theme is mixed in as well. And I was legit like A good Superman because he's such a good actor and he just you look at him and you're like Superman And you're just already moist and everything and you want to give him a chance to play that character I don't want I don't want this night or to have Claimed him for that role and ruined it. What's funny is I also would say like is that key jangling and I was like, oh, yeah I'm just saying that, you know, I hope he gets I hope he gets something Good for you. Henry become Superman You can jangle the keys as long as you open the door with them, you know, like yeah I mean because there's no reason why you shouldn't have shown up in that movie to be honest with you Like with the universe and how it works Uh someone if if you're curious someone showed me a picture of forest and in my server someone Showed man bull from the comic Uh-huh. He was like, and then we have our man bull here, which is like, you know It doesn't have to be the same He looks straight up. He's like he's an actual like Minotaur basically So this is he looks like he was from Narnia or something So this is the the source versus the Netflix adaptation beam is there Every time Why can't he actually like be a bull? Oh, well, they didn't have the money. That's why they say maybe would look way worse Well, look, maybe they should have just had like him be an actual bull find like a really passionate Bull who's like really wants against acting and give him the chance to portray man bull So we guess when your characters One who's porcupine? He's a guy in a big suit Like a porcupine, I guess and then Sarasen the vampire Who's every line of dialogue involves how he wants to drink blood really clever? Listen, I'm gonna you know, give this I The one the one laugh that this show got out of me the one genuine laugh that the show was able to He's out of my cold dead concrete doggie heart, right? Was when he said we need to find Josh and suck his blood and that was so stupid That I legitimately laughed at it as the only time that was that was the only time it was It's just there was something like it's clearly not good, but just there's like the joke is dumb But it was just it was just that right kind of dumb that one time That I literally can't tell the difference between that joke and all the other jokes he tells I Don't I don't know why I don't I can't explain it to you Maybe it's the delivery like he was just so excited to meant just to say that we should find Josh and suck his blood that was Did it? It was the one which is one laugh in a whole season of a comedy show. That's pretty good You know, I think your brain cracked so much that you're just like laughter just came out my Legitimately be a possibility. Yes um Yeah, and so like you you almost reset because this is apparently the halfway point in the episode and I realize yeah Because that's just the rest the episode of this now And you have Tim Roth sitting down with all these insane Like oh cosplayers that are created by a writing team who doesn't know what stories are and then he just says last session We explored Alejandro's struggles with identity. It's like Why am I here? I didn't sign up for this miss bat woman In season one of bat woman when Ruby Rose was running around being a just a horrible terrible bat woman. It was Wonderful Like Ned Flanders do you remember him? He was crying. Yeah. Yeah I Bologna skin That's right Remember when not Alice alternate dimension Alice or whatever sprayed it with like pepper spray that she was like That woman was fun it was fun Whereas I mean, it's it's kind of like the nature of things right a bad comedy is usually Particularly painful whereas like a bad a bad drama can end up being very entertaining Hmm. Oh they talk and then guy who with other people tried to take Jen's blood turns up He's just happens to be here and he's like oh hi and then she throws him across the room Which I guess you know whatever like I just don't care It's so difficult because I'm like where you go. This isn't gonna go anywhere interesting. He's just here now Also, she's gonna kill him You know, she doesn't take she doesn't take the time to question him about why the fuck she he was after her blood No, what why he was trying to jump her. She just kind of tries to kill him. Yeah. Oh She's role model. That's the how you deal with your problems fucking throw him around a room But even a meal is just like please calm down and then they have to have a good actual session He's a lot of anger He does Yeah, and he says He realized ultimately he didn't need some super powered crowbar to feel power and him and his friends were acting like super villains And then she says you attacked a woman four to one. You are absolutely super villains This is the thing about it I was like, oh, of course if I mean four to one with a guy who's innocent is like super villain behavior Well, it doesn't matter and one to one with anybody who was innocent attacking I'm pushing a person with a magical crowbar. That's probably exactly an asshole thing to do Especially if you're just trying to steal their blood. Yeah, but I'm not with Stan And it's weird. Yeah, that she she she frames it as the men visit women things like well, you can pick up like cars So if we're going with strength like you obviously outclass them by far Like even as a big green mutant, she's still playing the fucking victim like she's this defense girl Like I hate this shit. Yeah, I thought it was really we had choice to dialogue because obviously they knew she was she Hulk when they attacked her she knows she she Hulk like it reminds me the whole the the Brie Lawson Captain Marvel thing. Yeah, where it's like, you know, you assaulted her. She would have been terrified I was like, no, we both know that she's a god like there's nothing that's really indestructible Can tank a hit from the power stone. Yeah, so you don't have to be able to pull that card like this is gonna work Don wasn't gonna do anything other than make her feel loved. Don't want her to smile. So they just send him to hell Yeah, there's that and then they um, I think he says I'm sorry and she's like, oh, you're sorry and it's like is this We're doing gonna have a chat with one of the and you kind of just all weigh in for when she's gonna be like Who sent you? Why did you do it? But they don't even talk about but no, sorry, they get to talking about her and her boyfriend soon That's what the like yeah, because this show is not really you had a plot that you chose to start and For some reason you're not interested in actually like trying to resolve it. I don't get it Yeah Yeah, to give you an idea It's like she's criticized would be on a phone and then she's like I met a guy It was going great and they stopped talking to me. Oh, what'd you say? I'm just like I can't stop smiling like that's thirsty and a cliche and she's like you're thirsty and a cliche And they're like bottom line that game on and he didn't reply and they're all talking about this And I'm just like, oh my god, you could have cut this episode. We could have an episode season It would be fine. You didn't have to have this episode This season has like three episodes at most. Yeah The rest of it is just What the heck is going on? Why am I here? I Want to sleep? Sleep would be preferable. I fell asleep actually during like at least two times I would struggle in to take notes It was just the awakened chair It was a consistent theme of this entire show. It is just Nothing it is so hollow. It is so boring and I mean we'll get there eventually but This the only smart part of the show was when the show admitted to itself that all of these storylines are trash They don't make sense. They're disparate. They're worthless and it's all bad. Yeah, and there's no cohesive Theme there's no cohesive narrative. There's no greater story arc It's literally just a bunch of little mini incidents that are seemingly unrelated and end up being unrelated Oh, it drives me nuts. There's no effort put into this script at all Then I'll be honest if you go on three dates with the attractive lady And after the third date you are invited into her home and have sex with her and she texts you that was fun I can't stop smiling Unless you have this weird humiliation thing going on. That's like that's a really good text to get That mean that that's good. I don't get this whole. Oh, no, that's a bad thing to say I legit don't get it. This is a I guess this is a part of the world that I just don't I don't get this new music modern humor Oh Well because she's a woman she can't be clingy to a man that's disgusting that's handmade and shit Yeah, so then she starts to explain I met him when I was Jen and he liked Jen You know like she Hulk is that friend you have in high school is just everyone likes him or and You'd think life would be so much easier if he became that person and I turn into it whenever I want And everyone gives me attention when I do my boss my colleagues my Boyfriends and stuff, but it feels like eating would they like me if I didn't have all of this and I was like You already you already took advantage of that a few episodes ago, so as if as if he doesn't know the answer to that question, you know You got it confirmed by a lot of people In fact, yeah, cuz that guy wasn't it literally like Off a day she even got to know that guy the one that wasn't interested in Jen, but she was interested Yeah from the date to the apartment then she has to leave the apartment almost immediately to go save from the hell dimension demon bats and then when she comes back it's pound time like it was It was dinner and then 20 minutes Direct confirmation from him twice that he was absolutely not interested in Jen In fact, he considered it all a huge surprise. So it's it's interesting that she's now talking about her like I think some people would be as interested to be if not for she Hulk. It's like, oh, yeah Do you remember how you were hired love? Do you remember what they said? Well, and also there was that court case you had where she brought all those people into basically affirm that Yeah, like like without a shadow of a doubt Yeah, no, I think it's just funny that she's playing coy about it It's like we've had it confirmed legally at this point. I think we should acknowledge it. Yeah Also, did you because that was there's one particular line in her big like in passion speech that are particularly bugged me But I can't remember exactly what I think it was when she it was something along the lines of you know Like and that sucks because like Jen is great. So like, oh Does she actually say Jen is great? Yeah You got it you got to find the exact one you got to find it because I feel like there's a lot to unpack there We have evolved as writers now It's no longer other characters telling our our main character. How amazing she is now We have completely removed all outside influences and we need only the main character to tell you know how amazing she it's um It's man, it's like kind of it's like a huge pet peeve of mine What oh boy, all right, it was just so narcissistic Oh, yeah, no, she's she is the greatest narcissist I've ever come across in and that will be confirmed by the finale episode hardcore Absolutely Captain Marvel doesn't have yeah, I'm close to the narcissism on here Not even close. I'm not this eclipse every other character possible I don't think anyone's gonna be able to Defeat she Hulk in that department after the last episode But there is the line and that sucks for Jen because Jen is great It is like I don't know what it is, but I find it like particularly frustrating I've generally found it annoying when like stories It feels like almost the writers come in to talk about how great their own characters are But I mean this one is like probably the most overt one ever Like I don't Just like that sucks for Jen because Jen is great It's like that character that you wrote for her to say that about herself the character that you wrote And of course given all of the scenes that we've had prior to this point You know No one cares what this she Hulk's like, oh, that's just Yeah, well don't worry we're coming to the end of this episode. I just feel so bad for this character I know yeah me too. I Really want everything to work out for her When she finishes her speech all these guys want to kill Josh That's a good sign and then Fucking not Matador man Lights up his sword with like magical energy and then Tim Roth. It's like you you've been warned about using bio electricity in this group Before and I was just like what even what is there? I guess he just has Yeah, fuck it why not? Yeah, that's yeah And they're like rejection hurts you should spend more time with Jen because I'm sure she's great Maybe Josh isn't the only person who likes Jen. You believe this group values the whole of you Jen Like this point that you start to realize that this is this whole thing is yeah like this sort of group therapy session, but It's kind of like a weird group therapy session because it almost feels like is that something like more meta going on here? Like in terms of what this represents What the people like she hopefully don't like No, no, no No, but just more like the I don't know like it's it's just like this weird sort of it feels like kind of a self insert like therapy session Like inserted into the show You know what I mean? What I just feel like One of the writers Ghosted or something like what are you trying to say? Who hurt you because it feels so much like a self-insert and someone is just like Just trying to Shit on somebody else with this. I don't know. It's just it feels like a self-insert I guess the thing is this I can believe that now since there have been like quotes where the writers have explicitly stated that That's been partially their objective at times, right? It's like insert people in real life who they don't like into the show Yeah So Then again having a breakthrough and realizing that she doesn't have to be she Hulk for everyone to like her Whatever That encourages porcupine to take off his mask and he smells really bad Yay, that's the joke. That's the joke Oh smelly Cookie pine you dirty you black bastard He seems so happy as well. That's just like why did you make it so that he's smelly? It was like, okay That is hilarious. It was supposed to be like a very supportive group therapy session Yeah, but that's the joke isn't it? It's like, uh-huh. They won't support him right now or thoroughly because he smells That's not nice of them Therapy groups Well, yeah, he because they said he needs to not wear it all the time and he needs to Right. Oh, I right. I figured it might be like some innate thing like I don't know or something relating to porcupines Yeah He was the skunkinator, right or the smell-o man or You know the odorator something like that, right? So you're like, oh, okay. Yeah, he smells. He smells pretty bad Oh, um, they tell her we all tell her to delete his number and then she does it. It's a breakthrough And then she goes into the the yurt thing to yurt I don't know what the blood is and that works out too. It's great. It's like a sauna and then They say like we love you Jan and we love she Hulk and We are not a cult You really like it's gonna take as much longer to get through the next two episodes, trust me This one is such an empty episode. It's like, okay What should this actually mean to Jen really these people that you don't know like a saying that you're great to try and make you feel better Exactly moment like that's a breakthrough in any way whatsoever Yeah, and so before she leaves Blonsky says Everyone we meet no matter how much they hurt you is a lesson learned Right and before we get to a response It's obviously him trying to say that you put a lot on what Josh thinks and feels of you when you not even known him that long and Your value as your two almost identities has been like broken apart and determined by what other people see and think as opposed to what you think What have you learned from how much power someone like a Josh has over you with all this that you need to work on some stuff for yourself That's what I get from it trying to be generous At least a little bit. Yeah, and so he says that as a summary of this experience and her responses despite those platitudes I'm actually happy I stuck around No, what is it feels like it's actually kind of some of the stuff he says is legitimately good advice Yeah, it's not a platitude Yeah, exactly like it's like an actual piece of advice The whole point is and the whole point of your therapy session was derived value from yourself Not from like the opinions of other people. He's right Why would you say that? Why is she always like dismissing and shitting on everything that everybody else has to say and it's weird because a Self-fucking centered as she is being told that message should make her go. Yeah That's right. Exactly. Yeah What annoyed the shit out of me about This episode and the whole thing is going back to the beginning of the show When she when she first become She-Hulk and it's like The whole the whole thing that Bruce was trying to teach her was reconciling these two parts of herself And then she's like, no, I'm just actually able to I am the same thing. There's only one voice It's just me. It's just Jen within She-Hulk and then it's immediately broken Like that's immediately not true throughout the show and then here it's like no Jen is just Jen is the better thing is going on in this little therapy session or Jen is great or Jen is acceptable And then by the end of the show, there's no reconciliation of this over This underlying story arc where Jen is supposed to be reconciling these two Aspects of herself or is it just the same person? They can't figure it out They just dropped the narrative But they they like have this this way point here in the middle of the season where it's like, no There actually is still this looming conflict between her. She's never learned She just Arrogantly went away from Bruce even though it was it was like a yay woman power moment And they don't even realize it like they don't realize that that's the contradiction that they've created is that she was supposed to be Better because she's a woman and because women are actually just uniform. They don't have these two personalities and then they immediately went into it and now she's Like they just don't even see it and it's driving me crazy because it still doesn't wrap up by the end of the show I would go as far as they they fucking annihilate any sense of wrapping anything up by the end. They would it's like they wrote themselves Which how did you do that whatever they was so simple When you think about how low variables the show is yeah very low compared to everything else like compared to the other shows particularly low stakes Anyway, they show us the clip of gosh Stealing here. He's copying all of his phone data, but the weird thing is again, I don't understand how he got it Blood but whatever he got it I don't even know anymore like what to make of whether that even happened, but I guess we got to get to that I think my theory was more plausible was the most plausible one biologically was potentially so and that's it that's episode seven and You see that that already took us just over an hour. So clearly not much in it. Okay it was awful to watch and Then and then I knew as well going into the next one. I was like so this next one. That's the daredevil one, right? That's where we're at. Well He's been been he hasn't shown up yet. So it's time. It's time indeed. They've already baited him, okay? and They I think they would have pushed his episode as far down as possible just so they can keep people in I think there's no reason to assume anything else. They've baited the crap out of him for a while They know that it's a big draw Yeah, and they know that they would have just been better off. I say this if it's not happening being a daredevil show It's like Doreen. That's on the way to Be great That's gonna piss off the entire internet. I think This is No way, it's gonna be like the other three seasons. That's just not gonna be well And especially if they don't have a one-take hallway fight, they well, oh they did a great job of that in this episode So yeah, I was on Twitter people like, oh, yeah, it was great and that made me really sad It wasn't even Imagine having the balls to try to replicate that scene knowing Daniel you can't write It's pretty funny because we talked about it on the last the last I can't remember we talked about it But for the the hallway fight in season one I believe they only had like two days to prep for it and and then they shot it in like half a day Like it was it was a very um tight production like for for Daredevil like the turnaround I think was a new episode every like 13 days was shot and Look at what they accomplished with less money and less time Compared to oh, I thought you were talking about she only had two days Well who knows right I presumed that they had more time and more money in fact, they had to have had more money, but yeah Do you know how they do the previously on this one? you have Bruce saying if you're not gonna be a superhero then what are you gonna do and then it cuts to him I'm gonna shake my ass Like the show is like ain't we fun? I'm like, oh my god that really does sum up the show doesn't it? It's like if you're not gonna use your abilities for the betterment of the world What are you gonna do and it's like fuck around baby? I'm gonna be a fucking bum All right So Yeah, and also the the previously is is described as I think she does this more than once in the season But she doesn't hear she goes previously on my show Well, she did it in episode before right she's like I know this My show this is not even the last time that we're gonna hear that Like there's more The really odd thing about this is again for me It's it's just this constant return to irony of a bunch of women writing a quote-unquote pro woman show like no This is this is what women are type thing is the exploration of this character And and yet the lack of self-awareness to have what are you going to do other than your? Career your role the thing you're supposed to do the thing that would bring Fulfillment to you the thing that exploits your gifts and talents that make you uniquely you what are you gonna do with that? I'm gonna twerk in an office. I'm just gonna twerk like I'm just gonna have fun It's like what like you're not going to exploit your talents for the betterment of yourself or society or humanity You're not gonna commercialize it You're not gonna you know you do literally anything productive because the woman thing to do is to sit around Shaking your ass like that's the message you really want to convey and it Repeatedly time after time they go back to this thing where it's like your whole the whole point of these superhero stories is to Allow us to hyper focus on some part of something. I guess with Hulk. It's like the id or ego I don't know which I'm not a psychologist or a brain person But I'm not I mean like it's to focus on this aspect of what a person is and and then to twist it now to become this Aspect of what a woman is and how it how that interplays with them and it's like oh well Then they're gonna shake their ass in an office building Yeah, and they seem to be proud of that Yes It drives me nuts. It's like why do you hate yourself so much? I mean, yeah I mean all the other male superheroes written by dudes Even like the female ones written by dudes and they've had purpose stakes and Heroism and this chick written by a fucking room gaggle of soy idiots and fucking 35 year old losers and all she does is get drunk shake her ass and fuck. It's awful And look for Wi-Fi and I was gonna say it's not my fault Nick that we've had no law to speak of really at all yet in this But we're getting there we're gonna get some Because yeah, that's the other thing. She's a really shit lawyer Oh, I can't wait to talk about that too so much happens this episode So yeah, we open with some guys robbing a TV and then they they are stopped by leapfrog He's a he's a new vigilante. He's really awkward and terrible And he doesn't quite get a anything he wants and then he activates his boots to get away It's like a little jet boots and they stop working And he falls and they set on fire too. So it's like that's the start and he's now with she-hulk explaining the situation in order to get like a Compensation he's gonna sue the people who made the boots and that just so happens to be the same guy who made she-hulk's outfits the Jacob something right This is a really weird way to steal TVs Yeah, it is like parking way out in front and just not having masks and just carrying them out One by one to the van outside like that just seems like loudly talking about the TV. You just fucking stole Yeah, I feel like you wouldn't do it this way anecdotally pole workman and Tree arborists seem to cite nine meters as the cutoff for fatality in a fall Now if you look at the screen Hi, he is and then these are two men by here so we can safely assume that's around about two meters, which means two four six eight ten twelve About 30 meters of a fall. He's about to do He looks like he is pretty darn high. He's dead He is suffering. He is suffering death or serious injuries Like if he if he lived but had serious injuries, I wouldn't have a problem, but he seems to have Serious means bedward and for like the rest of his life not Bones are broken for sure many. Yeah, well at least broken bones, right? Unless I'll figure out fire to So Yeah, I just thought that was all really funny that it's just like we just started episode. Can you please just calm down? Yeah She says this is a this seems to be a pretty clear case of manufacturers defect negligence and breach of warranty Stuff that she wouldn't even know she's not read any of it yet So this is the thing I don't know whether to bring it up now or once we're in the court case, but Can we even approach this? This is a vigilante who is suing a black market sort of like Edna mode type character because his outfit wasn't working during his vigilantism When they are designed to it's like is this any of this legal are you guys? Is this like a drug dealer in the drug like guy who's just like you didn't give me the full amount of police Can you help me out? It's like I Don't know guys. I think maybe you should sort this between yourselves. I Yeah, but we'll never know how do you if it works But luckily I know everyone's saying it you're all thinking it the accords might be able to come into this in some way And you know what they do they clear everything up. It'll be great. Yeah. All right. That's good That still exists definitely Yeah, so she says I think I believe you're owed compensatory damages and I Think it's like when you consider all the illegal shit that you think is happening. Would you try and throw it out the window? I guess for this How wouldn't Luke Jacobson be like he would have been Like like captured by now probably the government would have had many things to say to him He's making people keep portions of Iron Man suit for free Well, not for free as in for no there's no armor and tools to carry out vigilante Yeah, they just need money and then they can do like I just don't I don't think so But yeah person of interest at the very least instead of just being able to do all this I don't want to say she says all of this is chill before finding out who the manufacturer even is Like I was gonna say, you know, she hasn't read the warranties like she doesn't even know what anything about One thing one thing that is is right. So there's two types of warranty, right? There's a warranty like that you buy some sort of warranty that comes with a product But there's just a general warranty of an operable and and serviceable product that you you when you buy a book You expect it to have pages that are printed on right like so that That's the warranty that that that is a sort of default unspoken Doesn't have to be written kind of right if you if you buy a bottle of coke Then you're going to open it up and drink something that tastes somewhere close to what you expect for coca-cola If you buy a bottle of coke and and drink gasoline then they've breached their warranty to provide you a coke So that that's the only minor thing that the shell got kind of correct Is that that there is a general warranty of marketability to to a product and and so I guess By saying this this is a breach of warranty Would would potentially be true, but actually I don't think that that's the issue here at all It's not a breach of warranty. They the jet boots function like the suit does what it's supposed to do And we ultimately purpose Right, we we we ultimately get down to the this this thing which was he used the wrong fuel And the dumb thing is the show resolves this in the wrong way You can't just You can't just provide instructions You have to provide warnings of what would happen if the thing goes wrong if it's a foreseeable event So the the show actually gets the product liability wrong and this guy would have a case Assuming you could bring a case against a black market manufacturer for a potentially illegal product, but the idea that he So if the warranty said You cannot use jet fuel and that's all that they said then that's an issue But if it said do not use jet fuel because it causes terrible horrible burns And the suit is not rated for that heat and you'll hurt yourself Then that would put him in the clear He didn't so that if I remember right in the show, he didn't say don't use jet fuel He said use this type of fuel. Yeah, right. It's an even more vague instructions Like use only this type use only unleaded gas. Well, okay, go ahead Well, so here's here's the thing though. Did jennifer walters get to see like the actual like written instructions No, like did she get any documentation or paperwork at all? No, no, they they glossed that Why would you know? Because she's a bad lawyer Yeah, all of this would be in so that they do it. They do a motion to dismiss for lack of uh Failure basically for a failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted And and you would have that motion hearing But that motion hearing would typically come after some sort of discovery like you would have to turn over those documents You would have to see the instructions Um, you would have to see if there was some warranty or or warning She would have reviewed all of that stuff. But no, they're just in court like the next day Again, I'm doing the thing where like they get blindsided in court like they keep getting blindsided That's the only drama they can come up with. There's no prep Being being in a courtroom doesn't involve any like preparation No, or like research gathering our reference material But to get to the finer legal point on a product's liability case like this if you say like let's say for your car You go, okay use only unleaded fuel But if you use unleaded like they don't say this but the manufacturer knows if you use unleaded fuel the car will Literally explode and kill a busload full of children next to you And they just say I use unleaded fuel and you go and you start driving and your car explodes and kills the busload of children You're like, I'm gonna sue you and you're like, well, I told you to use unleaded fuel It's like well, you maybe could have let me know that if I don't it will be a bomb Like maybe that would be the standard and that actually Is the standard here. So if he says I told you what you know to only use this type of gasoline It's imminently foreseeable that someone would put a different fuel source into an engine to try and get better performance That is that is like a tail as old as engines like well if it runs on ethanol Maybe it'll run on ethanol plus nitrogen or something like you just I mean all the warnings that are on gas station um Little pumps that that you have the you know either One two three four pumps probably you have your normal gas you're Unleaded your premium your ethanol and they all they're all full of warnings And they're all full of things and there's the diesel thing too People only get sued over gas they figure this out you've got to put labels on all that shit It's it's why warning labels are on on products and the warning sections of instruction manuals are so ridiculous and overly written Is because once someone has an issue that issue is then foreseeable to the manufacturer And if there's foreseeability they have a duty to warn This one is just generally foreseeable that if you have some sort of engine that takes fuel Someone will put a different type of combustible material in it to provide higher performance If the and that that just isn't a mystery to anybody Um, it's been happening forever So every manufacturer of an engine would say only use this and if there was a known issue like it will It will explode or you know, you'll you'll have an issue that could cause danger They they have to put it on there and it's it drives me crazy that they just automatically won this lawsuit when they actually would have probably lost Um, which is funny because there's some other things I think they fucked up in it But um, we will get there because we got to get a little bit more of the setup which is that She Hulk says she can't be doing this one because a conflict of interest the opposing client is her tailor and she likes her clothing There's obviously she says I would be ethically compromised His response is well, you did it when it was much more personal before As if that in any way addresses the problem at all like, uh, you know That she doesn't think that she can do this impartially like she can't act in the best interest of her client Which is like that's your job. It's the important part of like resolving a conflict. Yeah. Well, you did it before Alternative not taking on this person and giving them to someone else And then um, and then she's like, yeah, but okay, but I don't want to and then he says well Go speak to him and make it so that we don't have to have the case at all And that's that's all we ever hear about the conflict of interest done Why I think it's because the show believes later on. Well, I don't know what the show thinks actually in terms of the conflict And whether it's been resolved or sorted Um, well, and that's the other thing this this episode is breakneck It is absolutely insane We just jump from jump jump jump to all the significant scenes because now we're with Luke Jacobson with she-hulk trying to explain the situation And the writers had a challenge. We need A very apologetic and helpful she-hulk to approach Luke Jacobson and we need the the conversation to end with them hating each other So that's that's kind of difficult to do. How do we do it? so Uh, she says someone's basically like someone someone's complaining about your work But nothing has been filed yet. So legally you're in some trouble here But uh, you know, we're okay for now. We can we can solve this And his response is my work is impeccable Like, okay. So she says yeah, your stuff is great. Trust me. I I do not want like To have to do this and I know that and then he says, how can I trust you when you stab me in the back? And it's immediately like This is such a jilted conversation. It's so weird like like neither character understands what's It's just so bizarre like you can't just hand Oh, and so yeah, and she says well, there's no lawsuit yet Um, you just need to provide some level of responsibility for my client's injuries And he just says, uh, you're not getting anything from me ever again and destroys the the thing that he's working on for her And then she says well, I paid for that and then he says well, you shouldn't have betrayed me What is happening? That's probably illegal. She's come to him with like A warning ahead of time and a way to solve this earlier rather than having to go to court and he's like you've backstabbed me Also, I guess I'm gonna steal money from you. Yeah that too. Why not? And then he's like, you're blocked blacklisted and reported And I was I was just like, I guess we just got to get him in court. That's all this is Fuck this They for this episode they're gonna have a strained relationship because that's what we need to do and it's like, okay That was bizarre and your uh, your intentions were incredibly clear But I suppose when they crunched down this hard for episode time She means well walked in and said I hate you and he goes, I hate you too in the next scene. Yeah Um, so yeah, I don't know. He's just a crazy asshole basically and uh He believes there's no way any of his work could ever be faulty We And and he doesn't even need like there's no proof that passes between either of them. This if anything. Yeah, she doesn't Show him pictures. She doesn't Hand him I guess anything. Does he is he does he get any documents from her? Because imagine if she had learned from this point that he had actually used it improperly because he says my work is impeccable What if she said well it exploded And then he said well wait what happened? Like did he use the right fuel and the whole thing changes like the conversation had played out a little more like it should have normally Yeah, yeah, there's I don't think there is a document in this show No It was just pages and pages and pages and pages of documentation He had an iPad once that had uh four witness names on it and she crossed them out When they were done so that's no questions or anything. No no like I mean like a document Not to dwell in the past, but like that that time when they were resolving all of mr. Immortals Settlements, it's like, okay, so you have you have differing Settlements with different conditions for different relationships with nine different people And she solved it with one page of a legal pad And there it's like the amount of paperwork involved in that and also the release from liabilities The non-disclosure, you know outside of these limited persons like all of the stuff that would have to happen To make that actually and again coming from a firm that is we're talking This is the premium law firm in the in the country in the world or whatever Like the amount of paperwork that would be involved in all of this stuff would be mountainous And there's not a single piece Yeah, but i'll be boring even having them on screen would be boring seeing them on a table would be boring We can't do that People who like this show can't read. What's the point? That's true. No response. No argument back on that because this is the there you go nailed it. There we go Yeah, but no actually it's not the truth What people people who like this show don't exist Oh I think you can find them out there if you go fishing in the distant parts of the world. There'll be some guys like yeah, they're right I don't even think the writers like this show. I think they hated it They're forced to do yeah, is this something that they feel proud of making do they Right in their work when they were actually making this do they look at this and go man We did something really good here. I think that last episode shows it um so begins the trial and It's awkward because it just begins with luke jigsaw has no one representing him and then they do this thing of like You're gonna represent yourself. Then she hulks like oh my god get ready to spend all your money And then he's like no, I wouldn't do that because i'm not an idiot And I genuinely felt like it was the writers being like yeah, she hulk you idiot lawyer shut up Like even though she's even though he says this to the judge. I'm so confused. I don't know who's what Why does the show consistently tell me how much of an idiot she hulk is? I'm like, I okay fine. That is like also winning best lawyer best people lawyer ever like okay Go on well isn't I don't know of course. I'm not a um a lawman myself I'm not a a dog of the law But normally when you have like a court proceeding and stuff like this Do you learn her who you're opposing lawyer is? When you get in the courtroom and they walk in There are there are some weird ways in which you can get close to that But usually no No, the the normal scope of things would be you would have a very good idea of who you're going to be against Going against because they'd be filing their representations, right? Like uh, I'm I'm telling the court that I'm coming before it uh But you know, you could you could have it where where people show up and it's like A surprise lawyer because they filed at the last minute right before showing up What whatever it is they got hired that day or they've been working in the background Um, but there's usually no purpose to any of that. There's no there is no The thing that legal drama writers who don't know about law don't ever get is that there's no Surprise in court. There isn't this big drama There's no like new evidence at the last second None of that stuff happens because it doesn't benefit the actual proceeding Because the second some big surprise comes along all you say is uh, your honor We we need a little bit of time to deal with this. Can we adjourn today? Can I have seven days? I need to file a written motion to respond to this can I have some time like you're And the court's going to say yes, of course because they have something else to do The court always has something to do. They're not dependent on your case getting done So it's like until you get to an actual trial Everything is flexible and malleable. There's no grounds or room for surprise And by the time you're going to trial everything is known All of the evidence has been seen by both parties outside of extremely limited incidents And uh, and they've developed not only have they developed theories on how each side is going to use the evidence They've had big arguments over what evidence will and will not be allowed into the trial leading up to it And all of that is skipped here to try and make it more of a more dramatic But it ends up just making it corny and dumb And I think um You pile it's it's like they they don't understand that like a court case like these proceedings There is like a procedure that is incredibly important that is like followed because there's like there's there's an objective like with a case to try and Run it in a way that is fair that's going to lead to Essentially like correct outcomes. There's a procedure like you know, yeah, you're not just going to get like ambushed in court It's not like some big show performance thing like there's a procedure that you're trying to run through to make sure that everything is proper Like it's not a fucking meme, you know, like it's uh Uh This is mcu they How could they not afford a single lawyer in a writing room? Like I don't understand even all you had to do Just get a few hours For each episode with a single professional, right? They couldn't do that or I don't know. Maybe they did but I just don't think they cared. I was gonna say even how I went to a goal them don't care But I just god. Yeah, just just one guy didn't I be like, hey, is this all right? And he can be like, no They've easily gotten some consultants because like like some of the best shows have had consultants about You know for the topic that they're discussing like this this one show I used to watch it was about Plastic surgery and they had a plastic surgeon not only consulting on like the surgeries, but like they were in the cast Acting and then they would they would consult over how the dummies like the surgery dummies should look how the actors Move their hands when they're doing surgery everything and Because of that authenticity the show was more interesting to watch But I guess, you know marvel just doesn't doesn't care about those things anymore The saddest realization is that none of the writers Were desirable enough to have gotten into a relationship and gotten divorced before this happens because they would know about paperwork Well, is it like a meme in fuzz like they keep talking about how One of the main characters is very obsessed with like cops doing awesome and fun things action packed like explosions beating bad guys And then Simon pegs whole thing is like you have no idea how much paperwork there is like that's cops that's not even law like this Shit tubs of red tape the shit tubs of approving and putting in for things and keeping record of everything and Just the parts that they don't want you to know about but like to the point where you run a whole law show There's just like billy any paper to be seen like all right You do you uh reams and reams and reams and time Reading through everything sifting through everything I mean this product's liability thing that they did would have been huge first of all It would have been a mountain of medical bills because the the one thing we can't figure out is like what what injury did he sustain? Did they even say like a third degree burns to his legs? Third degree burns on his legs like the guy's like walking. I guess he was in was he in a wheelchair? No, I can't even I think the meme is that he's kind of Oshly faking it because he has his legs up at the beginning Uh on the table doesn't give a shit and you get that checked right? Yeah, if you don't have the medical records, you're not going to get compensatory damages because you The compensatory damages you have the thing. Yeah, you say yeah Where you know like Lionel huts or whatever type of lawyer in a comedy show will be like, let's put a um, you know A neck brace on you. Let's you got to start walking with a limp. You got to Like for civil cases and stuff to just walk like you you really really hurt They're doing that I think But you also have to get medical bills like you have to get those bills to prove your damages Like the the the whole like the limp thing is usually for an insurance claim like oh You get you get some cd doctors say oh, yeah, here you go and now you can turn this over to your insurance And then you better you better not look Uh, you better not be out lift like doing deadlifts or whatever with your hurt back Because then they'll cancel the chiropractic care that you said you needed for the rest of your life but um But in this one again getting into that courtroom and on that motion to dismiss Like I guess they should have a motion to dismiss if there's no damage Like if they don't have any medical records if they don't have a history Of uh the examination the surgery is required for third degree burns I don't know if people know this, but you don't just heal from third degree burns. That's what makes them third degree Seriously, yeah, you tend to need Severe help with those um So you'd have tons of documentation and then you'd have to have expert testimony about the uh About the actual like lasting trauma that he would have suffered and believe me I would think falling from like 16 or 17 meters out of the sky on to pavement would leave serious serious trauma Uh that he would need therapy for and this is the stuff they should have laid out like okay So you got your psych yeah Psychiatrist report you got your bills all lined up like bring a big stack of stuff to the table This is what we're going to hit you with on damages like put that in the show because The if you want to have any legal drama at all People watch legal drama all the time. Just give us the reasons to like you have an air of believability about it No, any fun Having fun. No Speaking of good. Yeah, that's not even the first thing. Oh wait go ahead. I was gonna move on Hmm nothing Too late. You already started and I'm gonna force it out of you I mean, what what about Jen's dating life then? Why are we gonna do about that? We need to cover it the most interesting part of the show. I still think it would I would have been more interested if it was um Maybe just the one dude that she gets to know of the the show and then he betrays the fuck out of her And that he faked being interested in uh in gen and the Just just yeah instead of being one of you know, and you know what you don't even need to make him like Make him really normal and he's just really nice to her and then it turns out he works for intelligence here And he's like, yeah, I'm sorry, but I mean and maybe even do the thing where he kind of likes it before he has to betray Yeah, that josh guy had a potential to do that, but There was just a montage of him and they just got rid of him afterwards Yeah, it was just so poorly done. It was really weird that he didn't he didn't show up again It's really really odd to that. It's like they lost the actor or something I mean, he was like that in the last episode Exactly you don't have that moment where she meets up with josh again with all like he's he should be a member of the group I would think like in the crowd No reconciliation of any single thread in the entire show You know what reconciliation of the the last thread Is is fucking daredevil who she meets in the last episode or or the next to last episode That's it. That's that's the whole payoff. It's like what was the rest of the season for One of my favorite things is that remember we watched the first episode and The way she turns into a hulk. I remember I said I wonder if that spaceship is gonna be brought up again and well Kind of So much for that Yeah, no, well there's something else as well that uh, I can't wait to talk about because Let's just say at one point it was said that she's obviously going to realize what she said to bruce was wrong And there's going to be a reconciliation and understanding there. We're running out of time show I hope we're going to get it within these last two episodes. I'm sure we will Running out of time though You see because that's that same cope and I feel bad You know a sense for a lot of people who are like don't worry if this episode wasn't so great They're gonna it's going to recontextualize it as we go on. It's like no I don't know. I feel like some shows earn that sort of confidence That they're gonna do something with the things that they've set up that this show like Pretty early on in confidence. It's not very empowering. Mm-hmm. What? That's yeah, I suppose so Yeah, yeah, so daredevil's here. Uh, mr. Matt He's here Yeah Every scene what feels like a soap opera sort of Like reveal for him the camera's zooming in on the doors and then the music's really like cheesy and he's just like I am here It's like yeah, I'm here Like you didn't say that enthusiastically. He just says I'm here Yeah, I love him for that Yeah, like it was kind I just want him to escape. I don't want him to have to be here. It's just this constant sense of dread with every scene It's like, what are you gonna do to him leave me? Oh boy, do we get up to a really good start He wants to before we address the overall case We want to address a portion of it being that uh, she helped us requested the client list for loop jacosons Work in order to contact them all and ask if they've experienced any injuries So, uh, oh, sorry. I feel like we skipped over something that I wanted to highlight Like because matt as soon as he comes in he he basically like lays out his claims He's gonna make for his client and jennifer calls him an asshole. It's like, yeah his job What's up with that? Oh, well, that's literally I think I think she hates competency. It's like this Disgusting, but it's like, you know what he's doing. He's just representing his client. You yeah Yeah She would do if she was actually a good lawyer. Yeah Just call him an asshole. It's like you just doing his job like calm down Yeah, he says, um He wants to ask the motion to compel the production of the defendant's client list be rejected as it's irrelevant She says it's relevant for the other injuries. He says his record is spotless Which is like really weird to make us a claim when that's what she wants to find out Whether or not the record is spotless and he's like it just is trust me and it's like, okay This is another part that they got completely wrong Of course that client list would be disclosed would be disclosed Of course it would it may be marked attorney eyes only So the the kid uh, the cheese representing may not get to see Nobody else not open to the public Right, this happens all the time when there's a business secret to protect But well, maybe we should generally before you go on we have to give the content because they do They give a little bit on this but then they get to the big reason so Uh, he says it's an invasion of privacy. She said it's not privacy It's not like a privacy thing when it's Taylor's customers this happens like all the time and blah blah and then he says Not when these people are superheroes that necessitate anonymity the sycovia records have been repealed So This if I can get all of the nerd shit out of the way uh, raki to them, we'll let you go on the law Shit. So nerd shit is They forgot what the sycovia records even are uh awkwardly. Absolutely. They did So yeah, they've they've confused them with what they were in the comics like the alternative superhero registration thing in the comics As far as I understand it. Yeah, that's that's the idea is that everybody's the comics is um You basically are going to sign up as like a member of shield like you got to give you got to give them your name You got to give them a bunch of information then you operate underneath shield Uh, the accords are obviously different And yeah, just an absolute simple version is just you're operating as a hero you give up what your name is You you that that in the comics and that causes this a split down the Middle and uh, isn't one of the biggest like moments of all of that spider-man being revealed Um, uh, he he reveals himself to say like this is right like i'm gonna Throw my hat in this arena, but then shit goes bad and then he changes his mind Yeah, um because of course like a lot of comics write the big thing with the secret identity thing is You know like the consequences for them and their their loved ones So like that's what's more relevant in the comic in the movie adaptation It wasn't gonna work quite as well uh to do it that way They clearly changed it because they're trying to find a way to better split The avengers into two teams and so what it is in the movies Is of those who are known and operate very publicly and even with the assistance of the government Uh, they now need to go once they're approved or they need to wait Until whatever they like like their orders may be from a Unified council that will be created by the the uh The ua yeah a win like group and the way that it's sold in the film is just that some things gotta give We had to do something. It's really difficult to have any kind of system that can control This many super powered and sometimes alien beings all over earth who just decide whether or not they're gonna save people And they don't care oftentimes what they leave behind them when they do so So some things gotta happen with the government civil war was clearly a response to the idea that this has gotten out of control Like phase three is just like the world doesn't give a shit anymore And what they could have done is what we've done now, which is that uh You know, it's whatever now you can do whatever you want. Fuck it But back in phase three, they did have a thing of like we're gonna try and make a world for this We're gonna try and make it work have repercussions. Um, I think there's loads of discussion to be had about the sycovy records I think they're really interesting But the main thrust of them is that superheroes shouldn't just be allowed to be team america Uh, that's the the world police just do whatever they want wherever that can't stand There has to be something that happens And so they try to implement it and then cap is like no fucking way any government should be the one that decides What superheroes are doing with their power when it relates to saving people's lives. That's fucked up And then iron man is like if we don't at least somewhat agree with them on this Then we're gonna be hunted down and put in prison Um, and we can't save people's lives then so You would rather compromise and then uh operate within that limit while cap is like absolutely not because that's not principled We have to just absolutely and of course the result is iron man works under the thumb of the government for the next few years We don't really see but cap is a vigilante and he runs the uh, I guess the underground avengers Are you sacred avengers? I suppose you want to we deserved to get that movie, but we didn't yes, we did Um, and of course in infinity war then it's the it's those avengers They put like a beard on falcon you get like different hair color for black widow. It's very different great um But now the sycoga records have apparently been repealed because they've only ever gotten in the way Which correct me if i'm wrong, but they were referenced in one division as being active, weren't they? Uh, I think they were but I mean it's it's like you pointed out the problem So this is this is worth expanding on if You take them seriously as an element in in the world of the story that you're trying to tell the sycobia records present a lot of opportunities Uh, narratively like at like for a wide variety of different characters in terms of different power levels or like different stakes of the story Like in the hands of a writer who recognizes the opportunity that exists in what you could call a restriction in a sense There's like a lot. There's a lot of material to be pulled from it, but Uh, in the hand of a less competent writer The accords would be seen as uh something that impedes the ability for you to do basically whatever you want It was inevitable It was only a matter of time and like when you think about phase four and how like absolutely Ridiculously high stakes so many of these stories have been without any consideration for like the implications of that It was a matter of time And it was only a matter of time until it was like they don't exist anymore. They're done. They're gone And and it you know, it's it's worth considering The accords were made in response to the events that had led up to civil war Which you know, there was some pretty high stakes things there like with ultron and and whatnot Um, but think about like everything that's happened after that you had the snap like you had that The event just decided to bring people back. That was a choice Exactly on their own without consulting anybody or working out any plans in terms of that You've had everything that happened in in one division doctor strange the falcon went to soldier stuff Like he had all of that happen as well Um, it's like there's a there was a celestial just poking out of earth Yep, like from this super human group that's existed for a long time that went completely under the radar Um, what what other fun? Like all of the like think about how much Well, I've got a no way home the spell to wipe out people's fucking memories Yeah, in our in our chat posted uh something Someone had mentioned Like we have black widow in the red room, uh, hawkeye going out on a street Yeah, right Yeah, that's right. Uh, wanda. Yeah falcon and bucky on the mission without any authorization and all that stuff Yeah, uh, doctor strange for the eye monster battle Sophistic autistic sent me this little list here. Um wizards are a thing and no one cares. Nope All the shit that happens in miss marvel, which I just don't know anything about that show whatsoever. Um Uh, kate bishop blew up a building in hawkeye Thor gets his own country and can make an army like he did with the kids in Thor 4 Yeah, and so like the the world that exists now in the mcu is Leagues more chaotic Than the world that existed when in civil war it seemed that the world needed to respond to what was happening Oh Yeah, the kaiju fight Like it's it it is It is ridiculous. They said before the show came out. We're gonna address the accords. This was it This was it. They don't exist. They said they've been repealed in one line and near the end of the season Daredevil says They've been repealed Moving on what should have happened was just always building on what uh, civil war it's set you get pushed back amendment Uh, someone wanted me to mention is like uh, eyeman suggested immediately that there would be amendments They would change as much as they could to make it better and easier But also the fact that eyeman was always when I said working under the government what I meant I didn't mean to say that uh, he was working according to whatever they wanted I meant under he would never go against them publicly But he breaks immediately from what they want But that's that's eyeman's whole thing. He's like, yeah, sure thumbs up government But if ever they tried to stop him from doing anything he felt he should do he would just do it anyway Which to him is better. It's like I don't have to be hunted by the government Yeah, but cap is like the note. I'm gonna be honest. There's no you're not controlling me And you can understand why he has that principle. Exactly. Um, I love it was really good I don't you know, I've I've been critical of the movies that come before them But both age of ultron iron man 3 and Uh winter soldier, I think all of them are really important for making civil war as strong as it is Um, they they all benefit The biggest lie of the show is that there's some Kevin green lighting everything or just controlling or there's anyone in control of this And it's just managing all the decisions because It's not yeah, there's no captain to this ship of writers Everyone's just sort of doing their own thing. They're tugging on this sail They're lowering this gangplank enough. No one's no one's where it's like they're they're not working on the same project Yeah, the amount of just control that these writers were given over the world of mcu is just Mind boggling. I cannot late. I cannot comprehend it. Just how much They how much power they were they were given. I mean hulk is basically unusable After this I cannot imagine what what they're gonna do with him after this Imagine if anybody had tried to stop them from fucking up the universe like imagine if anybody had said no, you can't do that It's like oh Well, this is Telling a bunch of women what they can and can't write about a woman's show You're gonna limit our creative talents to just what you think the universe should be it would have been a disaster They don't be terrified of telling these people what to do, you know for a fact when they said Can we just say the accords have been repealed that all the other people would just like your chords Yeah, the like the the Hondas And they go well, you know, there were those things where they said like heroes can't and can't do certain things like That was that was like phase three dude. That's fine um, so yeah Really bad for the world that they did that it's not even the thing They think it is because she wants a client list to give identities away and he's referencing the accords The accords only matter to the heroes that had already come out The vigilante heroes obviously wouldn't have given a fuck about the accords because they can't even sign They just they they're out there doing their thing, you know, what do the accords mean to daredevil? For example, it's like nothing. He's yeah, that could be part of how does yeah Not the idea daredevil You know dealing with the accords that could be like in a tv show Well, something that could be really great is like imagine if what happens is that we get to see like the nature of how the accords trickle down So like the accords are like a un thing and then there'd be like federal jurisdiction and state jurisdiction And maybe it's like the police that daredevil encounters will often just like through Basically protect him from the bureaucracy because they find him like beneficial to them And imagine if you explore that's an element and then things go right and then it fucks up It's like no we've got to come down on you now Like you cross the line and you screw it up I think it was clear as I can daredevil is 100% vigilante Then they introduced this thing where they're like people like iron man who operate with assistance from the government They may now have to sign this so that they can't just do whatever they want Otherwise, they'll be put in jail and if you read between the lines become a vigilante at that point Daredevil's like oh, I already am so Well and like This is not shooting on daredevil because I like him or whatever, but daredevil's superpower is Distilled down to concepts like he has no fear He's a blind guy who can see but basically just some heightened sensory perception and and and no fear regard for his own personal safety, right? Like daredevil isn't Using a suit that fires plasma cannons out of it or can fly and take down an airplane That's why I think you'd be able to get away with people not looking into him too much For a while, which I could have taken advantage of but they didn't So the accords wouldn't ever met like even assuming the accords were relevant and even applied to vigilantes Daredevil would just be he'd just be like a norm He comes across as a normal guy who's just highly skilled Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying like he probably wouldn't even register on the on the main people that go like when you have someone like a A Thor it's like holy fuck Can call thunder and lightning down from the heavens to destroy Cities, yeah I can hear so well that I can see it's like, oh, how damn I'll take the I'll take the thunder, please You know, there's something to be said about Venture bros and how they kind of try and Have their little rules and groups of evil and power levels and arts there's I don't know much of the details about it. I've only seen you know a certain amount at show But you see stuff like that and it's like man like the parodies of these things are doing better to try and explain it Then the real thing is Yeah, yeah, it's making heroes up They're uniformly bad at explaining this stuff now At least here but in the hand waving away of the accords, but real quick on that client list thing There's just one more legal aspect of it If gen was a competent attorney at all she would say yes Or if there's the kovir accords or the the secret identities of of these particular clients mattered So yes, actually as she hulk, I run the superhero division at glk or whatever We clearly understand the necessity of discretion and we'd be certainly willing to take the client list for discovery purposes And have it mark the turnies Turnies eyes only we know all about privacy the necessity of it We specialize in these people were the only firm maybe on earth that would be specifically suited to handle this client list Like that it's worth considering because if we go with their take that no You can't absolutely because of revealing identities potential or whatever It's like so you can just abuse those people infinitely then there's no way to stop you because you'll just use the Privacy thing every time right you could sell them literally acid and they could die But it's like well, you'll never know who it was because you can't because identity protection Exactly it's it's just silly the idea that you can't mount a competent case That you can't you can't develop a witness the reason you want the client list is because you want a witness list You want to go and get a statement from every single one of those clients say hey? Hey, have you ever? Have you ever had a problem with your with your thing? What if someone else had a suit that was built by this guy? And maybe it had a flamethrower thing and he he told them to put the wrong propellant in it And so then the flamethrower arm attachment blew up and destroyed their wrist Or made them have to lose an arm or whatever what if that had happened? That would be a perfect person to say yeah, this person has they they clearly know about products liability They know that the risks of combustion That this should have been on there this is relevant to this case specifically And you'll never know because oh well we got to keep that client list private No way does this happen in a courtroom? Nothing is secret when you get sued nothing is secret even your secrets aren't secret They just may be protected at a higher level, but everything is open to the other side In a situation like this we have leapfrog who I assume cannot be Anonymous so he doesn't care about anonymity because the fact that he's in a courtroom doing all these things means that he's No, his name is out there legally We have A guy who makes suits for vigilantes one of which is there in the room whose identity that you know and So I assume they know what he does he makes suits for vigilantes And that's just a thing you're allowed to do providing people With suits with the express, you know, who's expressed intentions are to be vigilantes Uh, and and all of this just sort of is not even addressed We don't even talk about it and there's not even a conflict of yes Someone used to a mr. Thompson was his name jakemson jakemson jakemson one of one of The you know your clients who has a suit by you he did some really bad things So You know what what happens now imagine it was discovered that his fucking lawyer is one of his customers who's desperately trying to keep all of this a secret and that um The other another one of his customers who he's on a very like, you know talk about conflict of interest He also like that could be cool. There's so much shit going on here. That's it's so difficult to unravel Yeah, yeah air devil is like, oh, I he'd make suits for you like me and I do the job that I do But you know, he's trying to you know Do the justice system thing do the court stuff But also he knows you know You know in the in the shadows like this guy makes the suits for us and if that's done So we got to try and keep that away from the limelight. I mean interesting There's a there's a lot of interesting things you could do With what with kind of all of the players that you've introduced The idea that you have essentially an edna mode character who makes suits for superheroes And that's a super weird gray area or he only uses an alias And maybe he is a clothier Or I assume is someone who makes clothes, but but that's just a front for their superhero You know clothing all of this could be a really legitimately neat story Especially if the whole season was couched around this one ongoing case that could develop a little bit Every episode instead of just three minutes and it's done Oh my gosh Yes, and and think about what they could do with the tension of her being delivered the client list and seeing matt murdoch on it And then But having to keep it a secret having to keep it a secret from her clients Having to keep it a secret from the rest of the law firm having to keep it a secret from everybody Having to go into that courtroom knowing that that that probably not knowing that he's daredevil But just knowing that he is on the list and going oh my god What is my what if he can read my mind? What if he can do this? What if he has some sort of ability to to hear our conversations that we're having about this It would create so much dramatic tension to have to deal with another superhero lawyer Remembering that she is a superhero lawyer. Oh, yeah, completely different reasons And they just drop all of that for like no We'll hand wave away this issue because we're retarded and we don't understand it And also because we we are allergic to anything approaching any sort of actual drama I don't recognize the opportunities You know go for oh absolutely not Yeah, but just the the idea that you'd mentioned the idea that you have a character who is a superhero who can read minds But he's a lawyer and he can't just use that in court So he knows what people are literally thinking in a courtroom and he knows who is guilty or not But he has to be able to present this, you know, how do you use that in the legal or ethical way? That's its own You should you should watch dad evil you should Oh I've heard it's pretty good Yeah, what you would just highlight there. I've just I've just pictured it I was like imagine they have this big ol like back and forth On behalf of their clients when in actuality they're advocating for their own positions on how superheroes should maybe operate between the two of them In terms of being public slash known as who you are and then as they're arguing They both recognize because of the released information at least privately They both know that they both know that he is a superhero And so like that tension being present on both their faces as they argue on behalf of other people But for things that they both actually believe in in in it's a wider case as well Yeah, you're right like with a bit more time and talent. This could become much more interesting um And it could also be really funny like so this is this is a supposed to be a comedy show and comedy has lots of forms but When you have this dramatic tension between the two where it's it's between matt murdoch Jen walters and the audience that they all know that they all like we all know that they know About each other Then the the way they frame and phrase things in court can be rife with jokes Especially if they start looking into each other like matt murdoch would have an advantage because he'd know about all of her antics And she wouldn't know about his So she'd be trying to figure out who he is the whole time But he could take pointed jokes and lines at her all all throughout his Questioning of witnesses and stuff like that and it would be that's funny. That's interesting. That's character development and nope We'll just know no Why would we why would we take any time doing this and the dumb thing is it probably be easier than coming up with the Bullshit that they had because it writes itself because it's just humans figuring each other out. Yeah Um, and I'll make the best in this in an episode in a show that does not even exist That was really cool Uh, the other thing I was gonna try and highlight uh They're um They were like the reason he says the accords have been repealed is to support the idea that heroes Identities shouldn't be just revealed like arbitrarily almost but the fact is like Uh, I think that if say for example vision He that was his like superhero form and that you could undo it and be like normal bob from down the street As far as the government knew and with the accords as least the way they presented them in civil war I don't think it was anything about giving up your name publicly. It was more so The the un would have to approve of whether or not you are allowed to as part of the avengers or whatever group name They're going to give it at that point Uh on missions or not. I don't think there was anything about like you have to give up your identity This is why I get confused as to what they think the accords were What the accords actually were it seems more like what we were just talking about with them If anything if you were registered on there and they forced you to use your details like as they relate personally They wouldn't just be revealed to the public. It's the governments have Um, maybe private access to that but simultaneously that the main thing is who where your power gets spent is the idea Not necessarily what your identity is Yeah, they have to have tabs on yeah where you're using your power So if something goes wrong, they you know are aware about it Oh, um, but the thing is yeah, we only got the one movie for the accords every other movie didn't care So it's just like well, I mean I say that if it is you or an ad game like pretended they kid a little bit Like a like a little I said pretend it No, I don't think I don't think endgame pretends to care like Those never Wait, which which scene would we be I can't remember did Fuck was that like a scene where they actually mentioned that or not not mention it I mean the the the plot line if you will because it involves cap and iron man The argument, of course is the Thanos was successful because of everything that felt right Like so there's still I guess what I meant was that there's absolutely nothing by way of their plan And how that would factor into the accords or like the consequences of their actions Well, and I think that as you point out in your video and we've all agreed on it It's just like that they they barely handle the breach between those two characters at all anyway So like they didn't even do the character stuff let alone the wheel building stuff They didn't give us a Yeah, I don't think it gives a shit, but they did pretend a little bit Um, yeah, and then phase four started Yeah No mention to the government about doing the time heist or the second snap because They're just really good because you know It would be really helpful for the governments to not know When half of their population For the incoming billions of people who cares well for the incoming many crises like the food crisis The economic crisis That would be something though that that scene where the avengers are talking about all right So when we're done, which parts do we tell the government that we did? You know like do we tell them that time travels just like a thing we could do or maybe do we like not even Mention that that was done in the first place So They kept it because they're not telling anybody about that because they're never going to use time travel again Its purpose has been fulfilled. So it's never come off Existential crisis it'll create for everyone if they realize that time travel is a thing that you could do Rags the many existential crisis Oh For existential crises A big purple man got some stones and yeeted half of all life and you have that that's just the thing that happens in this world Also Time travel is a thing. Yeah time travel is a thing. It could be done We went over shape shifting aliens that could commit pride That's right. Yeah, that changes a lot and that isn't even counting the other shape shifting aliens Which I guess the world may well find out about in the show secret invasion And then just wait till you read kang and find out about all the things he's done like The the influence that he's had on every single decision you made ever that you have no choices They were all kag and all of that isn't counting what happens in the finale No Find the piece there is a stone It is sad that uh, you know, there's all that shit with the accords and then um, this guy is like he lifts up his suit and he's like complaining He's like, come on. I I can't use this damage and then um, the devil's like Sniff sniff what fuel did you use and he's like jet fuel? And he's like that's not what the instructions say By the way, when I heard the I was like, what what are you doing? Yeah, that's super smell right that's super. Yeah, but like I know that well that again I guess they're like well not everybody knows friggin golf. It's like, I don't know just maybe leave it up to people Let people figure out how we figured it out if they didn't know But anyway, right? Yeah, he lifts it up and says yeah. Yeah. I put jet fuel in and then he says that and then Uh, Jacobson says that's not what my instructions say and the fucking judge just goes if the plaintiff ignored the explicit instructions Then the plaintiff is absolved of all liability case dismissed like the defendant So How the fuck is this not something that Needs to be like figured out in like evidence. How is this absolute? I guess is my point because what if what if I ignore mcdonald's recommendation to like Wait two minutes to let the coffee cool down and I drank it, but I almost died because it's poisoned It's like, yeah, you ignore the instructions, but I have a feeling that there's more to it than that You know like just because he put jet fuel in it doesn't mean he has zero case. It depends on what else is going on More like court cases last 10 minutes or less than that actually it's more like three where the judge just goes uh From like what could be considered just a casual comment. You have no idea what's happening What if he doesn't even know what jet fuel is and he just thought it was but he actually put the correct fuel in And he just None of this has been checked But we're supposed to believe that the judge is like, no, I understand everything perfectly case dismissed And this is all stuff that apparently she hugged did not know. She didn't check No, because she's She's a very good lawyer. Absolutely worth. She was she was too busy twerking with right in the stallion That was worth it She didn't even ask him any questions about his years of the thing When did you buy the suit? What did you put it in? Do you have the instructions? You told how do you use it? When what what what were you doing? What is all this stuff? Yep, were you given the instructions where in the instructions is the warning is the warning in all capitals Is it indicated by a particular caution type signal? Is there any indication that this is an extremely important part of the operation of this product? And i'm saying like a car can break down you go because you put the wrong fuel in and it's like Okay, but also there's no wheels. That's got to be relevant, right? But it like oh, yeah, I guess so but you put the wrong fuel in there. It's like you gave me a car with no wheels That's what i'm complaining about Not the fuel thing because that's that's could easily be the case but nobody cares. Everybody would just move on It's done. So oh and again because of how quick this episode is Um and everything's running it you get the point of this scene Which is uh, she says you still gonna make my dress and I kid you not these this is the dialogue I won't be your tailor because I hate you now I know so like we're talking about priority You just fuck this case and you're there like hey, but you're still gonna make my suits, right? It's like what about like your client who you failed? Seriously when he said When he said I hate you now I was like, oh shit They left the post-it note of the point of the scene instead of the dialogue Like the point is that he hates her now in this scene not you're not supposed to have a fucking say it Abtex be damned. What is that? Abtex is boring Whatever it's like paperwork. People who like the show wouldn't get subtext. They literally wouldn't understand it. I wouldn't see the point of it They wouldn't notice it to even know they didn't notice it so then She held me up with matt in the bar and it's like Fine. There we go. It's the lawyer bar And then she yeah, she says you made my dumb client admit to being even dumber than I thought he was in court How did you know about the jet fuel? I think you said it right. She's like, is that is that is that normal? You just sort of shit on your clients like Yeah for lawyers to Like I don't know if it's the thing that they do a wink wink nudge nudge thing But like wow, you're being a you're constantly seeming to be a dick to the clients of yours They pay you a lot of money to you know stand up for them and I'm sorry But how is she contextualizing this as strictly hit client being an idiot? It's like Again, it was another idiot in that room. I think And again, it it's gonna lead back to the The irony of the show the irony of the show is that the villains of the show's weapon against her is that she's a whore um, and the defense is not Uh The defense of it is not uh, but the reality is yaha because every guy who even looks at her She's immediately trying to bang in me like in I don't even know why Because that's the end of this episode But that is that it I like this this was spread and lying all over twitter I was saying because like people just be like it was that was intelligence. He has ultimate plan to say He sleeps around it's like. Yeah, that was it I mean she does you guys miss fine Which is fine, but like you guys miss villains that have plans of some kind not Just like I'm gonna get Joe sex tape like Okay Modern modern weapon for a modern battlefield. Yes, uh, but yeah, we we shall get there eventually as as you can see this episode lots of stuff happens, so it's Taking a little longer But um, yeah, he says there's the whole one for one for them one for us thing So that he can look after the little guy who needs help but also pay the bills And he basically just he just tells jen what the point of his show is And that uh, you should do better I feel like it's worthwhile to line up the dialogue though because matt's like, yeah No, I I do a lot of my cases pro bono But you know, I got to take on bigger clients like jackson so that I can keep doing that And I think her first response is like complaining about the job that she accepted And how that's all of the clients. It's like, oh man, my job that pays me tons of money. Like that's what I agree to do Yeah, it's it's just this really funny contrast. Yeah, she's incredibly annoying to listen to I don't think they realize like kind of just how stark it is when you lay it out Yeah, I like take a lot of cases and I don't get paid because I want to help people It's like, yeah, man at the job that pays me a lot of money. I'm just always like taking on these cases for these jerks Okay Do you think a bartender who works at legalese like fucking hates lawyers are like these people are pieces of shit They come here and they talk crap about all the people That you know pay him all this money for services and trying to dispense justice And they're just shit talking them all the time. These lawyers are real jerks I'm just now remembering because I was talking about how like the court case only lasts three minutes Defenders is not very good. Um, but there's that there's like a really great scene in defenders It's it's like the first scene with matt and he's in a court case that we don't get to see like any of the lead up to it Um, and it's basically just a case that showcases like how effective he is like rhetorically and in terms of uh, like in the courtroom Um, and that scene I think it lasts like a minute and in that minute we get a ton of character for him We get to see how he operates. We understand what the case is about pretty clearly And it's like that was one minute of time you had more than that Which still wasn't enough time really but you had more than that and you did way less with your courtroom scenes They seem to feel like because it's a court like a legal comedy that there's no need for drama ever like or leveraging drama or doing anything particularly like I don't know. It's just when you compare these two characters like the contrast is so stark. Yeah Speaking of model the contrast is I was just gonna say well matt murdock is a lawyer character and she hulk is a horror character And that's that's the ultimate difference and it's so fucking funny that the entire premise of the show is like Men online are gonna call her a whore. It's like well Thanks for the help one of the things I was trying to bring up about intelligence He was they have nothing to talk about with her except if they follow her like dating profiles, which apparently they do That that's all they've got to talk because remember they were like you should Actually, I'm jumping ahead Has anything to do with her legal things. Yes. Oh the thing that he does right for a job She presumably does there's only been two cases that she's Been in front of a courtroom in and it's it's the product liability case and whatever Or the well the other one was the parole hearing Like we She's a lawyer but the the divorce case was handled by her paralegal and the other attorney Her case was handled by the other attorney and there hasn't been any other case She's the head of this division and she doesn't ever do anything I think it was the yeah, it was the parole hearing. It was the magician guy and then this one Oh, yeah, she did have the magician guy. So three in nine episodes. We got three The silly thing is so as the head of the division She actually wouldn't be working most of these cases as lead counsel She'd be delegating the work to other attorneys and then stepping into assist on the cases for important witnesses Or something like that and that's how again another way they could have used this character Is have all these different cases that involve superheroes? I mean imagine all of the negligence towards for superheroes that could be out there their powers You know, they they bust a car they they caused some minor damage And so she could come in as the person who uh, if if we go to the johnny dep trial for people who watched it There was this guy wane denison Basically his entire job as a lawyer was to go and cross examine expert witnesses and some lawyers are really good at that That could have been her as a superhero as someone who knows Bruce spanner like she could sit there and be the person who comes into assist on these specific issues Where the rest of the legal issues are completely mundane And it would have been an interesting way to use this character in a courtroom legal drama That would add this twist to the courtroom element that makes it unique to marvel. Nope Nothing nothing you've highlighted something that yeah, like they never work together Like they so they never work together. You never see like the team working together on on a case Like it's always individually pug will be on his own and That malarie character will be on her own like it's never them coming together and they each have a unique skill set Like they each have sort of an area of expertise that they can leverage Fucking why them? Sorry Yes, so He gets a call. He gets a call. He's got to go off and do something. We'll find out what that is soon enough Her call is from hard hard. Yeah who as to a Nobody's collecting african shit on my level. I bought a Million dollar Wakandan war spear and um You know, I actually studied there and then he just goes Wakanda forever and then she goes. Oh, no, don't do that I was just like what is this seed like It's just cringy. Everything's cringy to make you not like him more Well, yeah, they will they finally do a At some level of a job of that with him being like come on. I know that you have feelings for me and stuff But then like he goes to grab her. I think I can't remember but she fucks off. But um The other thing I was going to mention is that he says that um Legally speaking, he's in some level of trouble because they want the spear back because it was stolen by colonizers And that he's bought it now so that he believes it belongs to him. So, you know, what's the legal issue there exactly? um I was confused with this. I was watching with rags and I was like wait, but Wakandan war spear How did that get colonized like taken by colonizers that that wouldn't So the only way that that could work is if it was simply stolen by someone like claw Which is possible. But does that mean you're just calling him a colonizer because he's white But I mean if if if that's how it works, they'd never do that shield Wouldn't captain america shield be like, um, I guess so, you know, I think they do feel that way about it, right? Like all vibranium belongs in Wakanda sort of stuff Right, but I mean have they ever initiated actual like I don't think yeah, fuck that Someone in chat said he's a Wakanda boo. It's um It's the the the reality is that yeah, if you watch black panther They do pretty much just refer to you as colonizer if you're white and it's like, oh, okay I was just a little bit confused. I was like, how did how did they get stuff from Wakanda with colonization? What it's immune to that Essentially, but yeah, that's that's just what they meant. So he's bad guy. He'll come up again. Don't worry about it um Which takes us again in this world Wakanda is just a known country now people know about Wakanda. That's a yeah Yeah, yeah, they should know what the fucking situation at that border is like they never ever ever ever took Like time to explain to us what differences that makes the world and they never will They can't be bothered now. They want to know Africa will want to pour into Wakanda um So we got leapfrog is now calling she-hulk asking for help because She says legally or physically and he says definitely physically he's being attacked by somebody and um She's like, uh, where are you and he says he's going to the is the leap The the lily pad this is big old base and I thought I thought this was really weird He's like, yeah, I just need to find my friends and then she looks at her phone. She says, oh, you're close I'll meet you I was like So nice. He's got like a active location thing for his Is that normal now? I didn't realize that was a thing for people when they call each other Do you know Maybe maybe it's part of the uh, that's Again, another interesting thing they could have done to explain this is that um, all of the clients all of the super Super clients of this law firm Uh consent to having their location tracked by their attorneys through proprietary software, which would help them You know, uh discern issues or or resolve problems without having to involve Maybe local authorities because it would reveal identity, etc. etc, etc Like they could just build a very simple plot device like I'm going to log into the glk tracking system and find my client Oh, there you are. I'll be right there. Like you're you're really close. I can help you simple Yeah, because the way this goes is she's like, where is the lily pad and he's like She says am I supposed to know where that is? And then he goes, I just need to find my friends And she looks down at her phone as he says like, uh, I'll try and lose him in this parking lot And then she goes, oh, you're close to me. By the way, that's convenient Isn't ally like fucking enormous pretty big And and it's just funny to me. There's like that's just something she could see I guess That's just something they have set up because of course a vigilante who's It doesn't want to you know, I'm going with that. So anyway, she uh, she does a bat woman Finally, we have a strong connection. She's uh, she knows this guy is in physical danger She's about to go and save his life. She's on board with it, but she decides wait I need to put on my costume Like man can like that woman. Just like bat woman. Yeah, great. Yeah You know, it was um, I think one of the things, uh My dad had said once Uh, was it because everyone used to have landlines. So whenever you called someone you knew Who you knew where they were You never had to ask where are you because everyone needs landlines And now when you call it with cell phones when you call people you know who it is And you have to ask where are you and he said that every once in a while That just seemed strange to him just one of those passage of time and technology things Kind of interesting. It's almost yeah, it's it's almost a reverse Where nowadays if someone calls you, you know who it is, but you don't know where they are, right? But in when they call you and it's a landline, you know where they are, but you know But it's it is interesting. Um, why didn't you call the police? Oh Why didn't you go to the police station? He's got a crazy vigilante who's attacking on the roof of his car And if the argument is well, but then did I will could tell the police that he's captured Loop Jacobson or something like that. I'd be like well, I mean at that point then Why is he calling she Hulk his lawyer? Yeah, like what is your plan? Incompetent just an idiot right like that's the idea I guess Well, they needed they needed this to happen so that they could have the plot they wanted which is well about to say so Yeah, she says she's gonna come help him I guess and uh this arrival I think this is batwoman esque too. You don't see batwoman do anything like this But you could totally imagine she would if she had this kind of power Um, think about it. This is like this car that's almost in a runaway state because it's got a guy who's trying to break into it He's broken the glass. He's trying to attack this guy Chat here you go. Just so you can understand she lands In front of it directly and she doesn't have a Yeah, somehow from someplace. That's a great point actually. She just flies in and this guy like emergency breaks He's like surprise and look at his stance. She doesn't give a fuck Man, good thing is wearing a seatbelt. Otherwise Good thing, you know exactly who this is what you're doing. What the circumstances are around this Imagine if there was somebody else in the car like and you didn't know or just yeah What if he wasn't wearing a seatbelt? Exactly. Well, I just said that but yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I it's okay. It's okay. My drags. That's okay. It's all right I won't I won't hold that what he gets you but yeah Look at that and that there he is. There's there says there's She looks funny. She does look funny. But yeah, uh, she could easily kill her client and their devil at this point Yeah, and just why did you do this? Why did you do that? Exactly? What the hell? And to be honest with you with the momentum of everything that's involved that like This worst thing should have happened, but hey, it's fine to worry about it. Yeah, but Yeah, and there there he is look at him And it's classic Look at look at that. Look at him go look at that big old jump I don't know how I feel about colors. It's not I like the suit design. I'm on the fence about the colors We can have a so just in case anybody In case anybody doesn't know this is dead of all when he first appeared had a red and yellow Um, like color scheme but looks similar to this except he had the double D Thing like on his suit on the front. Um, and then eventually he got his basically at this point iconic like full scarlet Like red. Yeah, that's what I'm familiar with And that's yeah, but and that's the one that he has in the show Which I think they're trying to I think they want to like try as best as possible to have the show like exist Here in this universe. They they use the same music from the show like later on Um, but he's changed it I guess to this and we can talk a bit A little bit later with a particular line of dialogue that annoyed me a lot Um, but yeah, I mean I prefer the full red. Um, the this color scheme. I I don't mind it as like a reference But I definitely prefer the full red the red and scar it plays into the devil thing. You're exactly Yeah, it doesn't make sense For a motherfucker who's known for like stealth and darkness to be wearing bright fucking yellow Yeah, pretty much But yeah, you're right. Well, it's it's kind of a good job of having these toned down But you could tell what it is, but it's still it's not like bright, but it is. Yeah, definitely Well, yeah, it's it's um, it's I guess it's a matter of if you think about the comic history of like where Dada will started towards like what the comics eventually Move towards in terms of the tone of the stories and like the nature of the character Yeah, like it's it's it's like This is not a costume that he would he would wear anymore Um, or like that he would wear in this, you know, if we to believe that the show is canon, but whatever Um, also, isn't it great that like his big triumphant return to the mcu? A character that's known for like the fisticuffs like Brutal sort of you know hand-to-hand combat is a fucking CGI fight scene Yeah, don't you love that that's fucking Yeah, at least this guy is really good Well, and also it's worth noting. Um, it'll become much more apparent as we progress. Jennifer's just straight up trying to kill him Um, she doesn't know who he is. She doesn't know what the hell is happening, but she's trying to kill him Throwing whole ass cars at him. Well, yeah Yeah Is a Um, and and like yeah the amount of property damage as well massive I mean just the car like you went on to the top of a car park I know like a um a property domicile property storage place, okay A parking yeah building right and you went to the top of it And you punch into it so that it like rumbles towards people and opens up I'm like, what if there's someone beneath you? What if the building collapses? Yeah, and you might be like laughing you might be like, well, yeah But this is the thing that's the kind of things you have to do when you're defeating an evil villain You're like, you have no idea who this is Yeah, and I mean as far as you're aware and as you later realize he's just a regular guy Like he doesn't have super strength or anything But here she is laughing as she's like destroying this building trying to kill him She doesn't have she doesn't have any idea what's happening And then you get I was about to say this this whole thing around the car. He says and my ass remains unwopped It's like you should be talking to her There's something that you might want to say there's something she might want to say But neither will be saying anything until they point it out as a lampshade rags because that's more fun Hooray lampshades are oh, yeah, like we talk about the banter. Oh, I'm gonna kick your ass Hey, yeah, oh my ass remains on my god. Yeah, let's fix that. Oh, wow I felt like in a video game. Oh my god. That dad was so bad Don't make fun of video games like that. Yeah Yeah, don't drag them down into this He goes jumping So we have to presume this is why I'm there like is the show actually counted because like he does not do these types of Acrobatics in the comics data was pretty acrobatic but like in the show we don't see a lot of that So I guess we have to presume that he's been doing gymnastics more like on the weekend more Well, it's it's kind of The problem isn't when people talk because I saw people like oh like people complaining about the gymnastics He doesn't in the comics. It's like he does but he doesn't really in the show Like at least not often. He's much more of like a brawler in the show So I guess we just have to assume like that he's been doing This is the thing as long as they play fast and loose with like whether that show is canon I don't even know like what I'm meant to make of it anymore Um, but they use the music from the show so presumably it is Um, so I'm guessing you know like soft of reboot kind of thing Um, oh, so I guess people probably see like through the the thing like he jumps down the roof And then she like comes jumping down like slamming down Like if he didn't move you would have murdered him Wow, you killed him like because you don't know what's happening Like you have no idea what's you don't know what's happening here You pick up a random car and just throw it at this guy. You don't know if anybody's in that car And of course that's someone's property You didn't have to do that. You could have just jumped your your she-hulk and he's dare devil You don't need to throw a car at him. You can just go up to him and grab him Yeah, just grab him you can outrun him. You're taller than him and you're faster than him But you're stronger than him You got this move the famous clap That's what gets him because I guess she chose a move that he literally can't possibly escape To beat him because she's so shit And of course while destroying all of the windows on all of the cars Yep, and then just I just want to make sure I play this for people Hey, you they're in chat who hasn't seen she-hulk. This is dare devil versus she-hulk you get like Less than a minute of it and then uh Then you get uh this It's just like Ah, it could tell when this happened. I was like fringy. He's not gonna like this People are not going to like people must be fucking pissed So, um, yeah, that's that uh, he doesn't get a mast often, but uh, there it is He doesn't it's uh, it's actually like a hugely important part of of like his his journey is like keeping He keeps his identity secret from his his best friend for a long time Like just to put it to perspective like how secretive he is of uh of his identity But yeah, now this person that he's only had one conversation with it's like, yep, you know awesome That's very cool. He did that in in like a minute. Yeah, that was so well. They do have a lot in common um, they're both lawyers and He does acrobats and can smell jet fuel while she is giant in green So, I mean it's pretty similar Thing a lot of connections going on there I was actually getting lost there. I couldn't tell you would describe it at this time because it's so similar. I was like, oh that Yeah, both of them. Yeah, I mean and and the best part is is that she's been a lawyer for like a day And uh, he's been a lawyer for a long time and she's been a superhero for like half a day And he's had his condition for you know, like since he was a little kid And went through a lot of training and effort to get to where he is So, I mean again, they have a lot to go with He takes on like the the burden of his abilities and um, she just shirks all of that I don't know how much I don't know how much you know about matt, but he's another one of those characters with the tragic history um That is informed a lot of what he does also like by the way If you if you can do like a clap that produces a shock wave that sends somebody flying into a car There's blood like like flowing out. Yeah, all that energy going through that person. Yeah I mean, he's dead is actually made a joke about he said he said, uh, I don't really see I hear. Well, I used to Yeah Yeah, because his eardrums would be ruptured from He'd be dying brain might even be melted like that's uh Like that's a that's a big old shock wave You know, yeah, I remember in in the original daredevil show The punisher shot past is he his ears and he couldn't hear for a whole fucking day Yeah, that's Exactly that. I mean if you're a regular person getting shot next to the ear. It's like Like that is uh, that's you buddy Yeah, and um and data was got super hearing and like super well, um didn't ever as far as I know For the rest of his life bruce willis had a hearing problem because uh, they fired a Essentially a prop gun right next to him in one of the scenes in diehard And it gave him like hearing damage. I think for the rest of his life. He always had a little bit of That's what I've heard if someone could double check, but I think that's true Check can be my Yeah, when he got hit he should have been as he was getting up going mob mob Yeah To try to fix his hearing So he says Luke's been kidnapped y'all by leapfrog And uh, that's why he's trying to get him back and she says well, why didn't you just say that? And then he says well, why didn't you ask me? And then she says well my client was being attacked by a man dressed as a devil and then he goes. Ah, that's fair Well, bitch, you're a big green bitch trash and shit. What is someone i'm gonna presume about you? Neither of them are off the hook Dear devil as soon as he saw her should have been like she helped stop you have no idea what's happening That sort of thing and then she should have been like That's what i'm saying like like they both highlight what they should have done And what would have prevented their fight and both of them just go oh, yeah, I kind of equals it out then bye It's like no it doesn't it doesn't but if we're talking about accountability here You destroyed the parking garage. You tried to kill him like several times Like and you know like he's actually trying to save somebody's life Um, but you don't know that you didn't ask him anything and they do the meme where she's like, who are you? And he goes i'm dear devil and he's like the music And then he's clearly it's sad that he's not recognized Which come on it just doesn't that just doesn't feel like matt may have talked to me from the what i remember The show he didn't give a fuck if you know he operates in new york. This is la He's in new york like and he's he operates in a very small part of new york. He's a very local Oh, but it's a funny game. It's like the literal stalwart joke and it's just like why you No, you don't just blast it around. These are all builds on the characters Uh, and then we got a line that uh, surprisingly made me quite annoyed Oh, surprisingly Yes, surprisingly actually I'm not sure what you're referring to so you can go ahead It's not the color scheme. I was talking about earlier like the color scheme I can't remember exactly what the line of dialogue was what was it exactly she says it's very daring to use ketchup And mustard is your color scheme So this annoys me and the reason why it annoys me is we got it. We got we got a we got a layout a lot of things here so You did this you chose to give him this color scheme because he has the costume That's just full red But you chose to give him the red and yellow one because you probably thought it would be better for marketing and probably would have been better for merchandise You made the choice to use it and you're shitting on it Um and then to add on to that. It's like, oh, yeah I'm sorry that like when they're like pumping out like a building of these comics a week back in the 60s That they didn't nail the design the first time around Unlike a character with this like this this huge legacy among a bunch of other characters with this legacy All of which had to exist in order for this show that you're writing to exist Your show doesn't exist without any of this material, but you're like gleefully shitting on it It is fighting the wrong way Yeah, pretty pretty much like about as close to that as you can get Um, and then there's the elephant in the room that uh, it's the first thing that I thought of when we're watching this before Almost like being defensive on behalf of stuff like that. Um I was just baffled by the fact because i'm so familiar at this point with the mcu Being built entirely as a as the movie franchise not only on source material, but on one particular movie About a guy who basically puts himself in a big old suit Uh, she says like he's putting out like the absurdity of using colors like this like these two it's like The colors that your primary superhero in your world uses that's right iron man is red and yellow I don't know if she's forgotten that Iron man is yet another example right if your show doesn't exist without that You know it's that series that character. I just I don't know it's I uh, I think I I'm finding it Especially frustrating more and more like the amount of shit that they hurl at the material that enables that terrible material to exist I don't respect anything that enabled them. Are there a lot of people like oh, she's greed Well, I mean, yeah, right. It's pretty funny to make fun of his color scheme when like the main character of the show Is this incredibly inconsistent cgi character? Yeah, but in the next episode in the next episode they're gonna basically sort of point out The incredible amount of crunch that would have occurred to even make this happen in the first place It's all terrible That's out as well. It's just not a funny joke Yeah, all of that for something. It isn't funny. We kind of presumed that like presumed that we were all at agreement There's not a funny like yeah, no, no Uh-huh. Your colors are yellow and red I'm funny. What a loser And at least he does then point out that he's going to tell the suitmaker and that gets her really upset because that's like That's a little bit of a mess to her, isn't it? Yeah The you because yeah, he said I'll tell Luke about it About what what uh, you're talking about with the yellow and red and they pick this I mean, that that's what the whole show boils down to though is them Ripping up their own decisions at the end like yeah, we wrote a trash show And we're going to make fun of like how bad it was like but you wrote it Like it's not like you're blaming someone else Exactly You did this You chose this you chose to give him this suit because you thought it would be better for marketing You're profiting off of it while making fun of it and it's not yours cashed in then fuck it It serve its purpose um Yeah, and so you might think well, of course, she's concerned about her dress is what else does she have to be concerned about And you might oh well probably the dam she's done to property and potentially people in this whole area, right? Is there a line for that? It's like you're in luck He says you ever destroyed a parking lot before and she says i'll even know I'm sure that the guy when he comes back to us to throw Ferrari I wonder if his insurance covers she hauled through it at that level That's that's what I mean No, that's right He has no means of recourse Oh, never saw her in court. Oh, they show the Oh, they even zoom away to show the she's like, oh, I'll go leave a note. What are you gonna write on that note? Um, I Yeah, I don't know Where's the giant? Where's the giant rift in the parking ramp that she caused? That'll be up top, but the thing is this is gonna be a camera. That's right. There's gonna be a camera here Yeah, what I call this like bad Yeah, so she hope you're in some serious trouble She is a lawyer She must know every single damage like every single law that she's breaking at that moment She doesn't think what what is going on? What is this character? I mean she Is a lawyer She knows every like she's aware of everything she's doing And she doesn't care and she doesn't think that she will have repercussions of it What She's never she's never held accountable for anything and has that moment where she's like, oh, shit like I'm Like I we're remember this entire series began with essentially a monologue that was you know Essentially with great power comes great responsibility And that is just that's never popped up. That's how they began this show and it is never It never will it never will oh that would they've already forgotten it The right I forgot they wrote it not to like get uh into this space or whatever, but it's such a stereotypical Uh woman moment thing that there is no accountability ever and for them to say Yeah, well, she doesn't have to take any of that responsibility But then prove it out through the show that yeah, actually, you know what? No, she never does she never I was gonna The last episode Yeah, it's it's how they write the the women here. It's it's how they write her Well, you know, there's the I'm assuming you guys have all seen the clip, right? Uh with jack nickel summaries asked how to write female characters in a movie or whatever And one of the things that take is that I I don't know what film is from but he Does take away all reason and accountability, right? And so to have that as a meme that goes around and then To do what they do in the last episode like I said, I'll bring it back up once we get there, but unbelievable like Um, so anyway the lily pad Uh, so anyway, the lily pad seems did have a legenda You know what by the way, I will say he's putting a lot of effort into like cultivating his superhero identity You know I'm sure the show thinks it's really lame But he's taken up like landscaping and arts and crafts and stuff to like create his superior identity I just think it's worth giving him some props for that, you know, like he's putting some real effort into this We had aspect to be was the fact that that what we were showed of him was he was trying to stop two guys from stealing tv's You know like that's that just seems genuine like he wants to stop them I don't know but it's like well now he's gone crazy with power He wants to get the costume maker to make him a better one so he's kidnapped him It's like okay But daredevil is like we'll handle this by being stealthy and she's like nah We'll just smash everything and they have themselves a little argument But then he's also like wow your heart is raised and they like almost get close to fucking kissing immediately and you're like, oh god Well, we also don't have that moment where a man paid attention to her Sorry, go ahead. I mean he is dead We have that uh Daredevil never never explains the the merits of stealth Instead of just running in and making sure everyone knows you're there from the first second No collateral, you know collateral damage hostages Calling I guess it's a funny It's a funny contrast, right because matt has to account like he's not invincible He has to actually be careful because he could die if where she can't like she's invulnerable to harm So like what does she care about collateral damage, right? Because it's not gonna affect her It was a line. I vaguely enjoy being that like He's like this will work and then he's like no, it'll do it my way and then she's like Just let me do it the way I do it and then he goes he's like you don't do this you don't Do hero stuff like not what you do and it's just like true But it doesn't matter anything because we're gonna do a funny, right? But yeah, what they do is yeah They go go ahead. Oh, sorry. Sorry. It's it's important also because uh As if matt murdoch has been doing all of the hero stuff and proposes this way to go in and stealthily take out one person at a time You know, there might be a reason like the reason might be that they could just kill the person you're trying to say Yeah, that that conversation never happens that it never happens because you have this character this she-hulk And you've been given without you you've just you've been given freely this insane essentially invulnerability And that's never you're never made to recognize that you've just sort of been given this and your attitude regarding how you dispense that power Is extremely irresponsible Did anyone else feel like on the character? Yeah, they made oh, well, I'm gonna move on so you can Oh, I was about to say for it that would be coming from a character that the show could convince me that she would actually listen to But they don't do it So no well because it was something that we kind of glossed over in the conversation when they're in the the bath basically Matt offers like his perspective that she's in a position to help people because As a lawyer she can work within the system to Help people but if that system fails then she can do vigilanceism, which is essentially his perspective It's not necessarily supposed to be hers Nor do I think that she should like accept that straight away like Matt's perspective is is interesting to explore I've said it so many times but like one of the interesting things about him is that He's a lawyer who clearly doesn't have that much faith in the system If he's willing to completely like defy it to like achieve his objectives And that's something that's worth exploring as a conflict And it would have been interesting to explore it as a conflict in this show Because I would imagine that her perspective wouldn't be like that Um, but they don't they don't like that's it. He he says it And I think she kind of accepts it and I think we're meant to believe by the finale that like she believes That that's a good way to do it without any explanation at like any exploration of that motivation at all Uh, the show is not written well Yeah, I mean I recognized that line and I was like, okay, that's interesting I wonder what they would do with that and if they're a relationship will you know They'll have some sort of conversation or we'll just conclude in something or maybe at the end She will think back to it because his character did leave some sort of um Russian, you know, yeah and well At the end she's just like, oh both I'm both she Hulk and Jen, but she's come a long way about nothing else Yeah Um, the the way that they progress as well. I just it just felt really really shit It's like wait, where are we and it's like we're in a big hallway Like what's the mean about daredevil? It's like, you know the hallway fights That's what they referred to like so we just put on a hallway Yeah, they just like it feels like they rented out a literal just the hallway like a guy was selling a hallway somewhere Renting space it looks so hallway-holy and they've all got crossbows Why I thought I was missing a reference like is that a frog thing to have a cross Every frog has a cross Not that i'm a frog, but I haven't heard of that as like a thing I have a crossbows in all of the media Vampire hunters, maybe yeah, that could be it I don't understand this I was just like that's strange because you can have daredevil fight people who have guns If you want we've seen him fight people with guns when he remember in season two when he was fighting in the hallway And he had like a big train that he had to well, there was punisher, of course. Yeah Um, but like the in the hallway fight, uh, he has Ah man, because like I'm just thinking about because people like that was always made jokes It's like you got to think about like the nature of the joke So like a really good example is in that hallway fight in season two He's got like a gun like taped up like duct taped to his arm because you got like a chain in one arm And then the gun taped up in the other one and he holds a guy hoses like a you know back off I'm gonna shoot him And then he knocks him out and then pulls the trigger and it's empty and he like he smirks He's like And it's like damn man like just Finding ways to inject character and in a certain sense kind of like humor as well It's not as simple as he makes jokes It's the kinds of jokes that he makes or the manner in which he conducts himself because of course That's like one of the things we're dead about right is like there's kind of like a A little bit of a maybe sadistic streak. How much does he enjoy? What he's doing here like how much is this about personal gratification? How much how much is he really invested in saving people versus uh hurting people? Sorry, I'm just talking about a better show I got you I understand Um, so he's doing the stealth approach now I'm gonna be honest with you guys if you were introducing me to a little video game You're like this game does not allow you to do the smash and grab sort of stuff. You have to go stealth I'd be like, okay You got four dudes And then you just immediately knock one out when they're all standing next to each other Um, you can call that stealth I suppose because they still don't know where you are or what you are But I would have just been immediately like oh, you started with a little in the mall that you're there Yeah, your first person and you've alerted them that there is something going on Most stealthy people do the thing where one of them goes, I'm gonna take a leak You walk to a corner and then you go And it's like, oh you drag his body take his clothes do whatever that's oh look for Jerry He's been pissing for five minutes. Don't check on him. You know Yeah, well they do the thing in the video game It's like, huh? And then they just gradually walk over with the little question Yeah, well they should have even had a good solid alert sound Oh god, there's the jerry he's they got Bob, what are you what were you saying? You mix it up with the last of us too. Um, no, I'm not making fun of it I'm saying that this is reasonable. Okay. Last of us is way funnier than that So, yeah, I just thought this was strange. I was just like, okay That's not us Not what I thought when the style that he opens the door is like Also, where did he where did he hit that first thing from? Like Because I was just thinking like logistically speaking this there's a ceiling here. It's not like he can Yeah, he threw that thing down somehow got into the next room To get this guy through the door Was this directed by the nostalgic critic? Hey Um, but yeah, uh that he she throws a guy through a wall And he like squares off with these three directly across from it. It's like, how is this the stealth approach? Also, why did the door open slowly and then he throws a guy through it? Because that was weird when I was watching that you expected him to walk through but he didn't Who you expected so like the guy Because that's not how doors open like that door swings out So someone had to turn the knob and then Give it just enough of the push to open slowly And then someone gives violently thrown out So it's not even like the person was opening the door because you typically would keep your hand on the door knob as you open It as a normal human So it's not like that was having like he just grabbed him because that would have looked completely different It's just this weird thing where it's like we're going to give a dramatic door open And then a guy's going to fly through it's like why wouldn't he just either fly through the door or be like Kicked as he's opening the door from behind anything else than what happened would have made more sense It's so fucking weird. And I just can't believe they call this the stealth approach It's it's no like if he had gone the sort of punch him all the death openly approach What it would be different Same thing, isn't it? Yeah, this is how I do stealth games The stealth is when I tried to why I had to fight everyone Stealth is when you're fighting in the dark Yes, that's probably what he thought because um, they do recharacter like they let us know what the difference is They're about to anyway because you see Unfortunately, if you did have he's got a bunch more Proneys come in because one of them managed to get the word out. You didn't even manage to stop that So again, it feels like you failed the stealth mission, but sure Um, yep, if stealth is mandatory you have failed And so in they come I'm all here. They've even got um, they these guys have crossbows a crowbar and this one has a hook um It's the frog hook He's got a he's got a rope. What what are you like? And again, the frog guy seems to have just a boatload of money Like he drives really like cool car He has this super suit that he bought that had to cost a fortune because it has Jet boots and shit like that is like well, but I used all my money on cool stuff So I'll equip my henchmen with basic medieval weaponry. Yes At least before the the guys with the crowbars have had magical ones. These are just regular ones Are we ever going to get into how they got those things or? They said they took it. They actually did take it from an Asgardian Like construction worker. Oh, okay. Okay. That's okay. So anyway, uh, the stealthy approach of what you just saw This is the non-stealth approach where you uh, you actually just burst through the ceiling And probably kill them. Oh, yeah, probably. Yeah, they're definitely dead It was fun. Yeah, how'd you know to do that also? Yeah, how did you know how to do that? She's keen hearing Oh, it's been funny if she just landed on daredevil Yeah, and then she says like she hawks smash and it's like hey Because I bet what I bet I bet what happened was like, you know how like daredevil like fights people in hallways Wouldn't it be like clever if we subverted that by Not having that happen and like she ends the fight. It's like, yeah, so you just It's just like the thing you did takes less work In terms of choreographing a fight scene and it's lame. So like thanks. Yep, but it's subverted your expectations Right and that makes it worthwhile. You subverted it with something worse. Yes, I did Just in case people thought you were joking. She does say she hawks smash Yeah, I'm not memeing. That's what she says. Yeah It's incredibly lame Yeah I was like it's a it's a meme look All right, I know we don't care that much about the incredible hawk from like 2008 But like when he says hawk smash at like the end of the movie It's like, oh cool. You kind of like waited a while before you had him say it Most of them really It's an homage to the the comic book ism and the difference between the mediums because in comic books Hulk smash having that big giant like text of him screaming hulk smash in the comics Works because it's a comic book and it's delivering more than the actual dialogue Like the the dynamic of the writing on the page shows you just how much effort hulk is putting into it There's like a whole artistic influence to it But when you get into a tv show or a movie and like he's going hulk smash every time he hits something It's cheesy and it's goofy But they got to pay homage to the meme of the comic because that's the whole point is that this is an adaptation So in the movie they do it at the very end It's like, oh, this is this cool little clever payoff a wink and a nod to the the fans But and they're like look we know We're fans too, but we can't do this all the time because it would sound stupid But then they'd like take that here and they just go Yeah, actually we're okay with it sounding stupid and even worse will make it she hulk smash is like this most The most ineffectual use of anything. Okay, they just they can't get anything right in making the show I don't know. How is it constantly this bad? Also, it's obviously I got for it if daredevil said it or somebody some other character said something like that She would probably so she would probably be so annoying about it But yeah, it would be like if if he jumped in and I am daredevil the man without fear Also, yeah, like bust man if somebody was standing like beyond that wall you would have killed him We'll get back to that later in there Also, I'm confident at this point like something that I think I've started to realize is I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons Why like the she-hulk effect is so inconsistent is because like even though it's the same character in the same outfit They're using different models because like in the fight earlier definitely looked better than here I don't know how that happens other than like some bizarre compartmentalization of like visual effects work But like I don't get it. It's so inconsistent like sometimes she looks like a completely different person And all I can imagine is it's like different teams You had different visual effects houses that had to create all their assets from scratch and try to make them Look consistent I think it has to do with different rigs because like hulk looks so much better. It it's so obvious One from the end game And she looks so much worse and probably they had a multiple sort of I'm it definitely that's gotta be it because it's like I don't know what it is because like earlier in the fight Just it's still not great. But like it looks better than than here. I it's a crunch Reshoots like it's just I can't imagine like what the actual story was in terms of production Especially like the visual effects part for this show and how painful it must have been how much didn't get Well, we'll talk about that again in uh episode nine when they do a fun little meme That they think is really fun and cute and it's kind of like one of the henchmen I love fun memes. He has a little handheld net thing You about to fry some fries I don't know Yeah, someone said it's like a bug net. It's like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know This is his weapon. He's net man. So He catches all the butterflies that the frog eats like what I actually thought they were gonna subvert and we didn't get the the fight because she sees all the hench goons If she calls them and then goes, okay, how about we don't and she starts picking up an arcade machine And I was like, oh, so she's gonna say like everyone drop your weapons a bunch of idiots or I'll destroy this arcade case But no, she just destroys it and then starts attacking them anyway Why would you do that? Why would you destroy the? I just don't yeah So she did that just because she wanted to annoy them there Oh, it's just petty. Yeah. Oh my god. Like I said, I was about to compliment her But like, oh yeah threaten something that they probably want and like and to to stop fighting But then she what it is in truth. She just does here is I just want to annoy the fuck out of you Like, okay, I just want to break your stuff that has nothing to do with rescuing someone Just a reminder that All of this is an extreme ethical violation of her duty to her client She's she's literally working As she says she's starving him from getting in more trouble. She's already enough charges against him. She's oh, and also It's worth it's worth pointing out that this scene what happens is basically our boy Matt Just regular human is left to fight all of these people while she just has a conversation with her client And he's got to deal with all these people trying to kill him just left on his own Yeah, well, she's literally working with known opposing counsel at this point against the interests of her client Like it's it's phenomenal I'll tell you what she's busy doing We're shown Jacobson is tied up and this is so hard to ignore when you see it happen fast Gonna help him out. Okay. I'm gonna nice and slow. Look at that It looks like tubing. I guess that he's been tied up with Look what she does Oh, yeah, it's like it's It magically comes apart on the back candy. Yeah, it looks like candy. She just you could see for That brief few frames where the back just breaks open. It's like it was never attached and uh, yeah If anything it should have just yanked him forward to her Yeah Because she's not hilarious She's she's strong so physics don't apply like Why did she hope oh, sorry go ahead I was gonna be quick if this is extension code Which is what a lot of people see me think it is It would actually be tough even for she held if you wrap that up several several several times And then you've just got to pull it apart Like I don't even know if any of us in the cast could do that with one rotation rather than no No way you couldn't pull out of part. No way. It's pretty tough I would have hurt him more than the cable If they wanted to make she hold strength the cause of the cable snapping She would have broken it in the front You would have grabbed it right next to each other and pulled apart in the front because otherwise You'll you like you said you just pull him close to her And all the pressure of that cord would go on the back of the chair And I actually like looking at that chair I think the cord would break through it before the cords would snap even one or two passes Like extension cords are very very strong Yeah, you can pull a hole And then I don't know they could have done something she has to pull each one off Individually on the front like she can't fit her hands around him and He's yelling at her or something. I don't know but the way they did it was just it was just lazy. She just pulls it off him Yeah, she's like you're gonna be going to jail more than likely and uh, they beat up all the goons and he tries to run away But he knocks himself out. Oh, well press fly out the window and he breaks his legs. I think I think yeah That's it. Philippe frog that was great I don't know Yep And we get to the well the point of the episode is actually which is the G-Hulk and daredevil have another little chat and then they're like you should come back to mine because you're gonna be gone tomorrow Do the sex they do Um, great. It's really good Said her sex life This is her begging them for dick Good thing she has a nice or the daredevil has a strong sense of smell. So he knows where to put it Oh my goodness Uh, I just wonder how horny these writers are Because oh, yeah, I'm like, oh my god It depends on how many of them own dogs I'm gonna be cats Oh wait, sure Sorry, I'm I'm I'm more into the wholesome meme of cat lady who's crazy and lives on her own Oh molly, you poor bastard Um, yeah, and then they show him doing the walk of shame and uh I was almost baffled by this for a second. I saw I was like, what is he doing? He never walks around in a day like casually as daredevil. What the fuck It's like, oh, yeah, but when they're doing a joke you idiot, I'm like, oh, right. Yeah fun. Not gonna give me a ride You're not gonna you're not gonna drive me back didn't get an uber didn't get an uber no taxi nothing No, because men do walk of shame too That's that's not a walk. That's a walk of fucking victory. Is it it's like, yeah, I yeah Not with her Like don't you feel ashamed that you're walking home after fucking that chick No, that was the chick that you picked up while the closing time song was ending Oh, I don't waste any time in my dating life Yeah, and then she's like shouldn't the episode be over now. What are you guys still doing here? What's going on and it's just like, oh, they think this is clever every time I think they automatically assume the second she talks to the the screen that is already really cool and clever and interesting Clever yeah, it can't not be clever and she says wow the gala that's gonna be like a tacked on set piece It's not like is there is there a big twist coming? But the question is will it be a twist like a a red hulk or am I getting fridged? We can only Stop talking just end We're almost to have only one episode left. Okay, but I wish I could say that we're seconds from that We're not we've still got a pretty big seat left Uh And it is the gala in which she will be awarded slash. Well, she might not win. You never know She's nominated for the best female lawyer, right? So we're gonna be seeing how the awards turn out on that one Um gets in there everyone. We know all our favorites from the season are all here. It's so exciting All the stars are here The great and uh, they start introducing the whole thing and there's this guy who's organizing it, I guess Uh, or maybe he's just the host whatever. He says, um educated accomplished beautiful and doing everything regular lawyers do except in high heels And backwards. I think is what he says it it comes off very beauty pageant ish French Not like those regular lawyers Yeah, like normal lawyers. Yeah, these are women. Am I right? And so yeah, uh, he announces not like regular voters He announces she won It's like, whoa gen one how is that and then they explain it because obviously that doesn't make sense How could she possibly win this because all of them win all the nominations won And they all have the same trophy So but she won it most it's so weird. I was just like, why would you Why would you make it a participation award? Why would you do that? Because it's so funny to make fun of it and all of these Who's writing this? Is it like you guys like women, right? And then like yeah, you're like, okay Sometimes I get confused Who put this on? Like, okay. So you get these like super lawyer. Well, okay Super lawyer status is typically actually an advertising thing that you buy Uh, so if you ever see someone whose name is like so and so super lawyer And then they'll have like a little an asterisk and it'll show like what magazine and what year they were a super lawyer And uh, that that's usually like a purchase. So it's like $2,500 or whatever and then like three people recommend it And then suddenly you're a super lawyer So then you can put it on your page and nobody knows what it is But they do have like lawyer of the year awards. They usually come from some publication, right? Some publication goes, okay But this is just her law firm that put this on right like southern california law um law awards Wait, it says it at the top on the the video in just a second Um, when when she goes in and it's uh, it's above the like list of attributes Uh, so we'll we'll see but i'm pretty sure it's just like It's either her law firm or a publication but the way these typically work is they pick you for an award And then they just do like a an interview there southern california law awards Wait, there's not an award show For like that's not a thing that exists. It's not even close to it. It does now, baby It'd be like, uh Like there's um There'd be like little quarterly law journal journals or whatever that come out and they'll do like a write-up on a lawyer Some lawyer profile, but again, it's it's just like an interview that happens They don't have it a fucking awards gala and there's not other competitors that get recognized It's just oh, we picked this lawyer as someone who's got a lifetime accomplishment or whatever Again, they they live in this weird world where everything is hollywood, but nothing actually is because hollywood is broken Well because the writers don't know anything Besides hollywood and la and fred carpet say yes Award shows that award themselves Yeah, I think I think this represents like mostly like Yeah, girls are all pretty like don't meet to us. Like you're all winners. We love you all shut the fuck up Well, again, I couldn't tell like this is indistinguishable from parody, right? Because I feel like this is how we would write it if we were making a joke show where they all get up on stage And then the guy is like, what's it like being a female lawyer? And if someone asked me, why did you write it that way? And I'd be like well because being a female lawyer isn't any that it's being a lawyer Like it shouldn't be highlighting that you're a female lawyer So the joke obviously is that they're being celebrated just for existing Like it's not about their talents at that point and that they're being asked a very fucking annoying question It'd be like, what's it like being a male youtuber? I'd just be like, what are you asking me that that's that's a weird Like um, and of course that you get so special and empowering. I love it. It's like Again, I would have written it that way Yeah, like this is Parody like it's funny if you are doing this on purpose But like this show Surely you're not doing that. I'm like, and then Mallory book says uh twice the work half the recognition As she stands on a Platform in front of people at an award ceremony There isn't a male one I assume or is it regular lawyer awards? That's what they call it. Yeah, this is this is the award ceremony for the normal lawyers out there the real lawyers Um Fucking weird and then he says yeah, and you're constantly being asked what it's like to be a female lawyer It's like by you guys wrote this. Okay Mm-hmm. So is it yeah, what are you trying to tell me? She's such an awful liar We're all awful, isn't this Um and so before she hell can talk about how awesome she is Hack the place Oh my goodness dun dun dun And they're like you think you know Be Hulk. She does not deserve your praise. He does not deserve the power She's not a good female lawyer. She isn't virginal and celibate There uh you haven't met female lawyers clearly They start throwing a bunch of bullshit on screen including but not limited to what looks like a notepad document with first bank of la checking Nearly 4 000 and saving uh 8 000 and then foreign account xxxx. It's like What are you trying to show that she has Like a bank pay an internet bill like I don't even she broke This is like it's so weird. It's like what is this in is this informing her slutness? That seems to be your goal like so You got yeah cable bill hydro bill internet bill. What the fuck are you doing? And I guess it's just she like wait wait wait wait wait Hydro bill that's what it says I guess water for water. Yes Calls it a hydro bill They all rent they all rent I have no idea what complex they would refer to it as a hydro bill. I don't get you can get a water bill and uh Depends where you go you can but I bet they all rent with utilities included right like Every month the hydro bills like well, let's see. What would it be for californians in a drought like 50 bucks or whatever for water Is something it's just exactly 50 every month. It's worth noting right? It's like she doesn't deserve your praise and instead like they show this instead of look at all this property damage she caused while fighting dead of all like yesterday yesterday Yeah, they've even put on the she's got shots of cap America's ass I'm like, oh, I don't like Of course she does. I did not realize that Asked from the first episode she talked about it a lot. Yeah. No, we you saw it on the um pictures You saw her on a phone a couple of times. I just find it's so funny that they put that on there the uh Strange but whatever Chad is saying the hydro bill is uh something that shows up in the atlantic, uh in canada atlantic provinces of canada They call it a hydro bill. Yeah, but do they call it a hydro bill in california? Like that's is that what we're asking and californians aren't from earth, right? No, sorry, not californians canadians. No, both of them actually Does she have an electric bill also? What's what's that? I think they're saying that it's like hydro power. So it's a power Like it would be it's not the water bill. It's the power bill for hydro electric power electric or carbons or something And also, what's with this? It shows how much money she has in her bank accounts You think you'd have more being you? You think you'd be filthy rich? I thought that she would be richer than that because of you think you'd be Swimming in money. I'll lose it all Because that was the whole thing. She's she's actually she has no frugality. She has no Impulse control. She's very clear No, she she doesn't because you're right. It's just she loses her job and immediately Loses her house, right? Like so she's literally living month to month Uh despite heading up. So a law firm like this She was behind if she if she loses her job and immediately loses the house. She was already behind Yeah, and to put this in perspective for people if you are in a um If you are in a major law firm A big law law firm and you're you're like one of the people who comes out Entry level top of your class. Uh, you get hired from like an ivy league school Your entry-level salary is 180 thousand dollars at the median. Uh, it goes and it goes up from there. She is an experienced Prosecutor right like she's worked for the state. So she's not Idea, you know, yeah, she's she's not working or she's not coming fresh out of law school She's worked for the state. She has a particular skill that she's a superhero and is hired by a big law firm Not as an associate attorney who'd be making 180 grand a year But as a division supervisor as the department head of this new branch I mean, we're talking she'd be being hired at 300 to 400 thousand dollars a year. You'd have to imagine And she has no money at all right So yeah, all of that and you might be wondering like what is the plan here intelligence here This is the ultimate payoff and then they start playing a sex tape that josh recorded I guess and they copied from a phone or I guess he would have been from his phone whatever um And this this this is quite infuriating for and I was like, yeah That'll be annoying for anybody to get this sex tape released. I think that's that's that's pretty fucking annoying. But uh, it's very cruel It's definitely a cruel thing to do But like obviously what I want to was waiting for is like this just remember the context intelligence You're doing this to destroy her when it would just be like it like I think most people just be like What the fuck are you doing? Wow, that's like a gross invasion of a privacy. Like what what are you doing exactly? That's what yeah That's what everyone's gonna say everyone's gonna say you've invaded her privacy Yeah, and like so she she has sex Okay A lot of us a lot of us do that's that's normal Yeah, just not not everybody has assholes recording it and releasing it on the internet and stuff So it's just like that Yeah, basically the point we're trying to make is intelligence here. This isn't a great plan. This is not gonna No, it's terrible. No one would actually be mad at her for having everybody would hate you It's like this was her night when she got this big award and you were doing this like to like wow However Intelligence you're a smarter than you think They knew exactly how she would react to this I guess well, I mean if you understand like Yeah, the human mind you leave nothing to chance Yes, and then this place they managed to figure out exactly how she would react to this Which is um, not great. Not great. No before I explained that was it. Was it good to say something? No, I don't believe you I don't know I'm just trying not to fuss. Oh no slumber fairy people start to call you Hey, well, we'll be good. You're allowed to fall in and out of sleep here in there. We used to have people who didn't have um So pretty awake actually All right, that's good. You want it to be cut off, of course Nothing's really getting done But I wouldn't expect too much to be done within the first few seconds Of course you need to you probably know at least someone there's got to be some server or someone who can help with something But you could maybe even look for some plugs. Maybe but ultimately, yeah, uh, that's pretty awful. Hopefully it goes off screen She decides well You can see from this expression what she's about to decide Um, I guess I'm just gonna play it in segments because uh, we'll be fine with like oh and funnily enough Mallory books says don't do it Which don't do it Jen. We we all know that you're gonna hulk out We didn't want to talk about it, but we knew that this could be a thing that you do No, you punch us the screens And they're really trying to uh ham up like that we're all supposed to get that the town is still traumatized from the hulk Destroying a different town years ago Like that's that's what we're supposed to get out of this because the reaction that comes from her Destroying the screen that is got her sex tape playing on it Is that everybody thinks that the world is going to end by her right now? The thing about it is it does it's weird. She punches a hole in a tv and drags the tv down, which then apparently crumbles the roof You see this look all the chandeliers is shaking and everything well look at that shot where the roof is coming and it's like Yeah, what? It lands on a table. Thank goodness. It didn't land on someone at the table Just to clarify like where she punches and how she punches they get us a decent shot of uh The wide of it like that shouldn't have happened It should be that it gets dragged on whatever this You know system is but it um It starts to just dip the whole ceiling down as if is if someone from above is crushing it down, you know Um, but as a result of that. Yeah, the whole building starts to fall apart Um And so as much as the load bearing wall load bearing tv As much as i would television screen As much as i'd want to go as far as saying all she did was rip down some tv's like It's not quite the same as the end of the world for some reason the show makes it so that's the end of the world Um And that everybody does need to actually exit the building before they get hurt by the falling debris of the entire building Like that's what that's the result of her actions um The only thing I guess I could say in favor of this happening is that she does like slam the ground or slam Thing sometimes then she has like equates and then destroys things away. Yeah, like she could punch the ground and it has this very Directed forward shock wave somehow just go with it Kind of thing same thing with the when you're clapping You know, I feel like you'd get a little bit more a back draft on that so to speak but Yeah, well, and yeah, uh She's furious as fuck everyone's screaming or running away and then she spots several dudes who are recording on their phones with masks on Being like me. So she's like, ah evil doers I shall get you because you're probably behind this And uh, most of them leave except for one and then she decides to chase him And this is where it gets it was already really bad, but this is where it gets really bad He's managed to get outside. Did she burst through the wall? Why can't you just chase him globally? Why did she why did she burst through walls? Exactly? She's angry It's just it's worth emphasizing look at all the debris that goes flying Imagine if somebody was in front of that could have killed him and I'd say it's down like likely because all of it's likely Look at all the people running around. Yeah um So like yeah, not not good. Um Could have hurt someone like in several instances Yeah, and she's doing it Oh, yeah Oh, yeah The door. Oh no So, uh, she's freaking everybody out and they all have Those they're like sci-fi guns. I'm not exactly sure what they do. We don't see them fired. I don't think I guess they were all here ready And whiting just oh, yeah, this is what happened. Why not? Yeah Maybe intelligentsia called them ahead of time because they do exactly how she'd react Um And yeah, so a whole family are like Jen stop please that everyone's like no We're gonna stop murdering people the one thing she doesn't do here that I thought she might what it was just unmask this person But uh, she doesn't in fact just let him go and he doesn't get picked up by anybody just leaves Which I guess yeah, why not? There's no reason to suspect him of anything really she's not Um, so yeah, she's kind of fucked herself over entirely And uh, I remember watching this and being like this is neat consequences God forbid We don't usually get these in the show Um, let's see how long that lasts. I know right uh Yeah, and she looks panicked and she's kind of destroyed her own life and I was like finally Their life has been destroyed finally the show has finally recognized Giving her just proper consequences I just think they could have done a bit more with it because to me Yeah, like reaching a bit because she just I think her reaction was quite adequate I think not quite adequate, but I mean she saw Uh tape on the screen and she smashed the screen and she got angry and she was already in a hulk form form It's not like she just burst into this big monster, right and the way people treated her I mean it was like oh my god What what is this monster and I mean she's angry Sure, I mean You know she could have done a bit more I'm I can't even doing this but you're watching that I would even cite uh Mallory books exploitation, which is that yeah, you were angry and it was fair to be angry, but you're a hulk So that's the whole like point with hulks, right? Like yeah, you being angry. That's what you were tried Someone trying to tell you this and the first episode exactly And my best guess would be that like the absolute bestest bestest faith Reading that someone would give her this episode is RC He was right in the end. Look, they all see her as a monster and it's like well Yeah, but then What's crazy is that the theory of uh the origin story coming between this episode and the next episode makes so much sense now Because they would be like, yeah, I bet you want to see how what happens next But now it's like you need to understand how she got here before you can see how this rolls out But that episode nine doesn't give a fuck about episode one. It absolutely doesn't care Ellie cares about episode eight. No. Yeah, it's it's its own thing. So I don't I don't I don't know Maybe they reworked it. Maybe they had a different ending at some point I can wow. Yeah, I can believe that I guess it's just like What would it have been really? No, uh That's that episode and yeah That pushes us to the glorious The glorious God, I loved it. It only took us four hours and 40 minutes to finally get to Nice The big That long I bet Someone said they had 20 I drink and I'll be right back and I go for the 20 endings. It was how does that how does that happen that you end up with 20 endings? I don't know I feel like when you Yeah, go ahead. Okay. Yeah, uh, all I was gonna say is I think if you if you like a writing a story Generally you have like some idea of where you want to go like in the end It may well be that things change as you go and you start figuring it out more But like generally, you know where you're going So like be writing a story where you have like 20 disparate endings that you potentially could have picked from like Oh, that's that's like indicative of approach to writing that I don't think I like very much Like that you would just have almost like, um, this raffle of endings that you could just pick out of a hat And it's like, oh, okay. That's uh, yeah, we can we can do that one. That's fine Though I guess it's kind of crazy to think if this is the ending that they thought was better What were those 20? Oh those other 20 endings Oh How are we all doing everybody? We all find we got a lab brain cells No, this this ending like I've been dying like I hate this show. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it But I've been dying to talk about this ending a little bit because it was so so Remarkably awful It was actually probably the first time in the show that I had a genuine emotional response and it was seething rage That they did this that they were so self-unaware And that should have been apparent throughout the entire thing because every episode is self-unaware and contradictory and as no continuity But like this would just it just went beyond and I kind of knew what was coming because someone had Spoilered what was going to happen and even when I watched it. I was like, this is even worse. It's even Worse watching it play out like as yeah, like no matter what you hear, right? Like actually watching it all play out the events is like baffling I um though it's it's funny. You said that like the show isn't It's funny to say that the show isn't self-aware because you're right But like all the show has in terms of like it's redeeming quality seemingly in the eyes of a lot of people Is that it's self-aware that like so much of the humor is like meta and referencing the you know, you know like referencing Like in humor or uh, like the the place in which it exists like in the current landscape It's like so much of the writing stems from well, it's clever when we're self-aware, right? It's clever when we do self-referential humor like that's that's clever in and of itself Um, which of course it's not right like it's it's it's like anything it can be good or bad but that seems to be like the Driving, I guess you could say like dictate of the writing is like if it's self-referential then it's it's funny and clever Which you know, it's not like at least not in and of itself I exactly yeah maximum overdrive in the finale. It's like Yeah Oh, no, there's self-awareness. There's genre awareness. There's all sorts of things that you can be cheeky with and um None of those come off here because it wasn't aware It was acknowledging but particularly unaware And that's that's what made it so frustrating for me is like How how can you how can you have a show where you? you seem to be Attempting to acknowledge all of these things, but you don't understand what's so bad about all of them And so you're making like a self deprecating joke, but it wasn't a joke It was actually just valid criticism of your own failure It's kind of the nature of writing these types of stories writers that like in a lot of ways like superhero stories And especially if you're gonna have like fourth wall breaking You're like adding on to your story more and more variables that you have to try and juggle and account for While still like achieving the objectives you want. It's kind of like I said Yeah, probably like sort of inherent to the nature of like speculative fiction Like the more that you throw on that is like different from the world that we live in or different from the way that stories Are traditionally told the harder it's gonna get to make sure that you can align all of those elements in favor of a cohesive like narrative goal And in this case it's like it is just like well beyond your capacity Well beyond your capacity to do what you wanted to do and then execute it well Really that would have been like a difficult task in general. I mean, I guess at this point I'm like, you know alluding to the the big thing right in the finale Um that man that would be tough to write like for anybody but given to this particular team of writers. It's like man Do it from the start. I think It just it's yeah, it's uh, well we're about to I guess get into it The finale finally you are yeah prepare thy anus Yeah, I mean is there anything anyone wants to be said before going in I want Um, I just just a reminder to get my uh, plus shave you make a little plug here Oh, I just remember the rise plus more Not everything in this in this in this world is madness. All right We're about to embark on a dark journey a terrible terrible quest an awful adventure. Oh my god Chad is He quite literally is just in time probably for his perspective Yeah, we're just about to start the last episode. You arrived right before we did my plug Awesome So we took care of the two good ones and now Yeah, because it's over the bad one of course the therapy episode and the dll episode were both excellent So this is the uh It's all being linked to this this moment And ironically that's like hey nick I'm good, man. I'm good Uh, ironically, right this last episode surpassed my every expectation and they were all bad my expectations were bad and This like reached new levels of bad. I was like well, okay. Okay. There you go It was a shock and to say the least yeah, but yeah, I guess because because you you you weren't quite here For the first four hours. How about uh, if you want to let people know what you think of she hulk up to this point And how excited you were for the finale She hulk I like every episode Except like the first one and maybe the last one and you know, that's not saying the first one last one are good They're bad in a different way, but all the other episodes were so incredibly pointless and just Utterly useless and also, I mean they do ruin a lot of things. They'd absolutely assassinate wong in throughout all the episodes and But there was just pointless drivel with some of the most nonsensical legal pseudo bull crap where they just do stuff And she's an awful conceited Uh whore So you're a fan of the character is what you're saying you want to see her in most stuff Can you wait for her to lead the avengers? How about that? That'll be fun Oh Shut up You'll give the my tooth. Okay fine. She won't lead them. It'll it'll be captain marvel. It'll be so many Oh captain marvel and shield teaming up. That'll be so cool when they punch the new bad guy They can be like fuck you, man And then man They'll specifically punch men in the ball and then or the fate or or or yeah, or if they find a woman It's gonna be like a I don't know a maga woman or a trad woman and it's like You Well, see if it's uh if it's lady thanos instead of lady thor when she gets the gauntlets of power You know thanos he just evaporated 50 of all people at random, but she's got a fucking list so It spans the entire universe He says dispassionate fish. She's like no evil doers. I have a list this is real long. We got this First one on that list is nick rickado Oh Only if he gets to review the episode too So Had this like have this like girl boss thing going on. I cannot imagine them Both in the same room. No, it's the amount of energy there that's the repulsive energy would it would I don't think people can sit in the in the chair. They're in at that point Like it'll be forcing them away the screens will turn off like How could you imagine the smell? I mean comes right through the screen She Hulk right she is the most awful like well person generally but in terms of a superhero, right? She I'm trying to think of a like an anti-hero is usually Our positive term for a hero that just does a bit is a bit more violent But she is like the opposite of a hero. She she is awful. She's conceded. She's just out for her herself um And she and when she does try and help other people she ends up just smashing expensive cars and people I had a property And then also losing control and everything should be the worst hero in the world and yet Dude because I could be like, uh, who you describing right now out of all of the current heroes because I'm not I'm not sure You're all fucking horrible reckless people at this point. It sucks She'll win the award for best female superhero. That's the fucking funny thing right black adam's deal in his movie is he's like Yeah, I do shit that I want to do and he just doesn't give a fuck if he kills a bunch of people He's just he will wipe him out Um, and they pretty consistent on in terms of like a characterization thing But it's just funny because he's not too different from like captain marvel Yeah And he's like spitting the whole part of what he's struggling with the movie Is is he a hero? Is he not and does that matter ultimately to what needs to be done? Sort of thing. Meanwhile, captain ball before he's like, I am a hero I am the best. I'm a hero. Of course All right, I'm the best hero. Don't touch me. So, uh, yeah, we we assume Something's gonna happen with the the police being on it there, but we start up with a sort of parody of the uh, The luphorigno hulk TV show From the 70s. Yeah As that's neat. He helped doing it and they They even like put some effort into it to some degree with some of these scenes. I think yeah, I mean looks better than uh, kind of nice Yeah It's probably like the only thing like in terms of like a meta thing that they've done that I would say is worthwhile Yeah, yes, um, this was neat to see My uh, my note on it was the they've baited a show I'd prefer to watch Well that show seems to have some level of self-awareness while this show I never can tell because Some of it is just like wait, you you don't think you don't think you know what you're saying sort of thing Um Thing is like, you know the tone in like the the way that she's expressing She's trying to say this is so awful. Do you remember this? It's crap Oh, yeah, no, it's it's way better than your show. But they're actually just trying to mock it Um, because they think their show is so great and they are you know Just crapping on things out like that. I honestly better than I I figured that this isn't homage. I uh, I don't know that I get the impression that they're saying that the old show Sucks I don't look at look at like her expressions the way she moves in the in the montage I mean, she's yeah, I guess I don't know Yeah, she's like, do you remember this how retarded it was? I'm gonna type in a computer and I do and stuff and They you know, they mock it. They hate that and it's like guys. It's a better show than what you have I have no doubt that that show is better than this Yeah No way And uh, yeah part of this would it be a reach to say this she hawk This she hawk looks better than the cgi one You know, I'd be fine. I would have I was always fine with the idea of them Just fucking getting a strong person and painting over them. Whatever. I was always fine with me CGI abomination thing is creepy. I just don't like it. I don't want it on the screen is animations It's not from this world I'd pretty sure oh damn. I actually noticed it. I don't know if they did it on purpose or if it was a mistake But the don't make me angry um I know that like they've got bruce up on the steps, but if she's saying the line they should be flipped Because bruce is the one who's standing higher up and looking closer towards the camera like in the original Man, that is like a hyper nitpick, but it's just something I noticed um I mean and also he doesn't look at the camera when he says don't make me angry either He says it so the investigative report. Okay. Hey, they got a little bit of creative flair. They guys do whatever they want, all right Like in this part here It's part of the intro as well. They have the creature is pursued by online trolls. It's like oh So awkward. It's like yeah, you know, that's right. You wrote this not those She's provoked into a rampage that has her put in prison and now she is only seen for the raging spirit within her the well Yeah, what did what did wings famously say your consequences have actions? Okay? Where is the lie? What she did uh, yeah, so We we come from this and she is in in prison, which is pretty neat. I was happy to see that Wait, let's take a recontextualized wingscote. That's my life. It's waking up being green and getting kicked That's all it is Uh, so yeah, yeah chat chat is rightfully saying there is a tempest inside me Another incredible show If you didn't know we finished up our coverage of that too last week. Yeah, we did it's been a crazy set of months Uh enough rings of power for two years unless we cover people talking about it. So who knows who knows Oh, you know people are gonna talk about it. I'm actually I've already been I don't know. Yeah, I was gonna say chat. How much do you think they pass? Yeah, well, I don't think there's gonna be as much defense for it as the last jedi, so No Do not think so. Yeah, but I've been linked a couple articles here I guess one is actually quite topical to our immediate discussion. Let me grab it real quick Uh, boo boo There's that one and then there's this one here Rings of power she-hulk controversy. How does that work? They've run away successes Well, she just broke out of her she broke out of her disney app and went over to amazon Isn't like a season three for she-hulking down at this stage like they're not sure if they're gonna do it Why the yes, I just God if I was on the board, I'd just be like guys. That was a disaster. Could we please not do that again Actual television show like the I would point to that would it be like look it was funny the first time it was But like we need to stop actually and stop, you know, we have to make money. Yeah, like don't do it like they did There's no why they're happy with the response She-hulk is a runaway success in that success is running the fuck away from it That makes sense. Oh Yeah so Lawyers are here and they're gonna let her know what the result is and she immediately is like This was a targeted attack. We need to get the names of the people who hacked my phone They need to be prosecuted and then uh book is like you took the bait which I don't know man. I was any crime right there. Well, it does took the bait though I uh, I was I was kind of with her on the sense that she's not so I don't think she's talking about that She's talking about the fact that it's like what you've done is now going to have to be dealt with Like whether or not they did actually hack into your phone you kind of Uh, like if someone released the bigger issue steals your info and releases it online It's like, yeah, they definitely there should repercussions for that But then when you destroy like a building and threaten people's lives as a result of it It's like oh well now we got to talk about that because that's kind of bigger Yeah, like these are two separate matters like sure you can do that But that's got like no bearing on this current issue that we're dealing with And it seemed like to be fair book is like I'm interested in protecting you not Going after the people you who wronged you. I want to make sure you're okay That's the vibe I'm getting But she's nobody's competent in this but book seems to be slightly more competent Probably the most competent person in the show Um, and so yeah, she's like When she says you took the bait too, I feel like that's kind of a pointed criticism of like yeah You didn't you didn't have to break through the wall. You didn't have to attack people and stuff But you did and then she says I was angry It's like yeah But I think you know better than everybody that that's not good enough Not not at all though Do you guys like I've mentioned that she just proved Bruce right and everything that he said that she wasn't ready And she can't control her anger and isn't responsible for her powers at all Yeah, we were talking about how I'm sorry The episode formatting that there's the the the thing about how We were originally going to be getting the storyline of episode one between eight and nine as in episode eight Was going to be seven an episode one was going to be eight and then episode nine would be the same It's that once she reaches that climax We then get sent back to when she's learning about being a hulk and that that's where hulk's warning would hit a little harder I think because we'd be like oh, that's where she actually ends up damn But it's so bizarre because I don't trust the writers of the show. I'm like you realize hulk was correct Or do you think he's not? Well, and there's something that's worth talking about I'm glad you brought up because I think we so When Bruce says like you got to get in control of your anger. Otherwise things get bad The lens through which like that's coming from him Is probably more so stemming from the fact that when he got mad Like a different entity would take over and then destroy everything Like she hulk is not the same as hulk She hulk is still like jennifer waltz's essentially So like the nature of um what the rage represents is like In a certain sense bruce gets angry and then another entity destroys everything You got angry you got angry like you specifically and then did something And then she lost control Yeah, like it's not analogous, you know And so what's funny about that is that like that literally shows that she's nowhere near as good as controlling her anger And that line where she's like i'm infinite I do it infinitely more than you it's like you conceded cow and hypocrite and bullcrap And if you remember bruce held his uh his hulk from smashing when he was In age of ultron when uh, they're trying to Stop ultron 2.0 from being woken up and uh If you remember he tries to trap he's he gets hit by uh scarlet witch Like he's dealing with like end of the world stakes and people actually attacking him Meanwhile, she gets her sex tape released and again I want to stress that is very bad and it's not something that anybody would ever want to have to deal with But it may do like lack of a better term hulk the fuck smash like it's Yeah, and this is the thing there is a greater responsibility on her to control that anger like someone gets angry This is the thing Usually it would be a guy that lashes out physically when they get really angry they'll punch a wall or something like that Usually a more kind of female response to something like this would just be complete horror and depression and and like So the physical reaction is uh Like feels a little but i'm not saying you know a woman can't lash out physically. It's just far less common um But the thing is though If she lashes out she can like break the world into and so no even if this is this is really bad I I I agree doesn't take away the responsibility on her to be far more careful because of what she's capable of Which is what brice was trying to tell her and she just told him to basically piss off We've set the everything is set in place now so that we should finally get that scene where she appreciates Bruce has been a lot through a lot more and understands it a lot better than she does and that she was wrong Because she can't quite control that she's got some work to do. I'm sure we're getting that scene. I'll point it out when we get there Yeah, absolutely. Yep. I mean she'll use her one phone call right that click, you know, you know That's who she calls. Yeah, that would have been really Like you know the the tables have sort of turned and yeah Um, yeah and book says you're an out of control hulk and that's what everyone saw I was just like Yep, pretty much and that again reflects what what bruce said it feels like It's part of maybe an episode draft. They had before with this had more of a serious ending or something because uh, you know, the meme that happens oftentimes is the uh Like just to skip ahead slightly They say that you can have all charges dropped if she puts an inhibitor on and never becomes she hulk again And it's agreed so she's free, but Can't be she hulk. I was just thinking to myself like the easy story setup You've got there is that this season ends maybe on that and a bit of a like cliffhanger in the sense of like How will this be resolved and you know some some threat comes to town something or some other thing happens that Uh prompts her to want to save lives and then we have complicated legal issues Like what does that mean that she used her power to save people? But she did breach her inhibitor clause or whatever, you know Like you can make a story out of that and maybe they were going to in the finale even But uh, they went a different direction about to a third of the way and we'll get it I still want to know what the charges were even going to be like what specific charges or destruction of property I mean, this is a first offender. She's got mitigating circumstances because uh, obviously this happens in the context of her being publicly humiliated By a nefarious illegal act like there's there is so much negotiation room and all we get is yeah They agreed if you never put on this ankle bracelet against like agreed to what does she even have a charging document? She just woke up in jail the next day. Well, that's not the story. They want to tell okay They want to tell they don't want to talk about law stuff and yeah, law is gay. We're not doing that Law is very gay. You will not find it here. That's true. So much dick Well Yeah, well, um, but yeah shad, did you want to say something? Uh, I forgot. I'm just I think you have nicks penis. Sorry. Yeah. No, that happens. We can all get distracted by those fair How come when you hear that word you think of his? Oh, he was the one that said it. Yeah. How come you don't? Yeah I can't say I got I don't want to play favorites I want it known that uh, if someone said Ha all the characters suck and there's no one that's likable in the show. I'd be like, hey I like the dad. Your dad is the only person I think in the whole show that I kind of find fine throughout I think you're right. Yeah, I legitimately think you're right. Yeah And I actually thought his line when he picks her up from prison is quite funny. He says like don't worry, honey people go to prison every day Doesn't make any sense at all But it sounds like an attempt at a dad just try to comfort somebody like oh this story is pretty adorable um She loses her apartment here and so I you guys I caught a little brief bit at the tail in the last one that It shows her bank account and it's bizarre because she should be earning way more money and So what that implies that she's been blowing huge paychecks On what looks to be uh booze and clothes and clothes she's so Oh, you're responsible and unlikely. Well, I just can't help themselves No, I agree. Yeah, uh, it's it's bizarre and uh, they leave us because this is the thing about storytelling a lot of time It's like well, why don't you just assume it's a plot hole and the money's been disappeared And it's like well, I'd rather assume the thing that makes more sense, which she's she's been spending it all That's that's something that makes the story It's the writers inserting themselves again because they're probably struggling writers and they don't have a lot of money And they'll be thinking well if I lost my job, I'd lose my apartment because they're too dumb to realize that hey Lawyers earn a lot more. Well, not only that, but they've bought apartments in california Which is probably like one room cost 10 billion dollars a month, you know Yeah, because they have and it only flashed And they decided to put it in specifically with those numbers just to have it flashed on the screen for just a moment So you wonder were they trying to tell us something? Is that just what they think a lawyer has in terms of money? my theory would just be the When they were putting it up they were like put it in pictures of Captain America's ass to show that they got into the photos Because they even have a photo like a selfie in there show some of the conversations on matcha which they do And it's like and then we'll get to the sex tape. What else can we throw in there? It's like Uh Bills bills. Yeah. Yeah, they hack your phone and they have it bills. It's like sure. What else Isn't that enough? It's like is there anything else bank details? What do bank details even look like? Like uh get a notepad open and type How much money you have in your account? Yeah, what's a lot of money? I don't know for a lawyer Go to our bank get one of those like receipts and then like copy that essentially and just of course change all the information So you know what it looks like? also the um implication here is that she got out and cut perfectly a picture of hulk king's uh icon from the internet Yeah, it's it's all it's all indicted. Oh, you're right. Yeah Or she would have gotten especially printed. Yes Unless she's that good at drawing with like felt tip pens. She's just that good You can't even tell it's not uh So that's that's yeah We're up to um, she loses her job because obviously she can't be she hulk anymore. That's the whole reason glk and hey How do and then she well not to mention the fact that she is other reasons they could fire her at this point I'd say but uh Yeah, yeah, so there's that and then she doesn't have the money to afford the apartment so she goes back to move in with her parents and Where are we then what is uh Yeah, she's just really sad Um, she can't be she hulk anymore and I think at one point she's like this is kind of what I wanted This was like not really no not at all. Uh, but I guess you try to shoe hold that in because this is the last episode Um, yeah, and they say on the news report a neighbor says they're uncomfortable living next to an unstable and before we can finish I said as she goes unstable Like I'm not unstable. I mean You are a little bit. Let's just say if jen is playing call of duty And she has a couple deaths in a row from snipers camp in or something Are we supposed to worry about the person below her when she fucking stabs the floor? I don't know I don't know Knocks over that building kills two people in a satellite Yeah, that was a little bit unstable Like holy crap. I wouldn't even want to play monopoly with this crazy woman. It's like whole Oh, yeah, and I thought it was funny when uh And the dad sprayed the report is off with his little hose. I love that He seems to be the only yeah, he's like the actually only good character I haven't forgotten that went out for his daughter when she was attacked by the the stupid Uh, whatever people that he was like he wants to install things to help it with security And she's like I don't need it. I'm a hulk and he's like I don't Hey, you're my daughter sort of thing. It's like, oh, that's cute Yeah I'm sorry. What are you doing at this show kind person? you here And he's a guy too Oh Maybe you're not sexist after all. I don't know. Maybe it'll turn out to be dr. Doom later or something I don't know like when when jen was finally having that nice boyfriend thing and this was like the last review I ended up doing because um rings of power over took my life I literally said, you know, he's gonna be an awful douche. He's gonna be I don't know I'm sleeping where they just get a blood or something like that and of course that's exactly what they did Is Yeah, I'm guessing we just we just shocked. They haven't turned her dad into a psychometry yet, but hey season two maybe Nearly to every other male character. So I think she has that one lawyer friend guy who's Not like He's an idiot. Oh God, he pisses me off so much too. This guy hangs out with the ceo of the greatest law firm on the planet He's a lawyer. He he'd be like one of the top lawyers in the entire country. It's like Well, I'm a retard That is his dialogue Like you you didn't have to make him dumb. You've already got he's an ally. He can be a smart character He can be just fine. He's like you don't have to vilify every single character by their biology And yet you just can't help it. You have to make him bad You know, I'm I'm gonna do this because I I can't resist how funny this is. Uh, so I apologize in advance rags Okay, this is arguably a spoiler for you, but it's so minute and contextless that it should be fine but uh you know drinker's watching house the dragon he hadn't quite caught up with the newest episode rags hasn't seen it either And I just I get my phone was set up in a way that I could see a notification for any like direct messages And uh, it just I see a blip in the my peripheral vision. I look over and it just says what the fuck is with the feet wanking scene Is there a foot job is there a foot job scene? Let's just say no, it's it's it's not it's it's not a Like half a foot in someone's mouth and then just There's a guy wishing for a foot job. Uh, I want to feed in my mouth. I hope he's okay Uh surviving it Anyway Very even are we yeah, so Uh, yeah, so she's set up a thing to see if she can trace You know the the intelligentsia people and she's like this platform is operated by shell companies outside of america One of them is going to slip up at some point and we'll destroy them legally Like okay, I guess that's that's that's the new plot thrust then she's going after the people who released Her information is like fine. Okay. Hang on like some person that just set up like a random website needed shell companies and stuff to do it Don't even know and I and this is the thing like How can she prove? Uh, like the people are connected. She's gonna have to get way Basically, she needs like a tech bro of some kind. She needs like a tech Can't any random person just set up a website with like like, you know Servers in a country that you know, they can't get cancer on and then they don't need a shell company at all this crap to do it I think it's like You need lots of evidence, right because like it could be that someone's framing intelligentsia You don't even know if there was you got to connect all the threads. You got to get all the proof and like I said She needs someone who's tech savvy. She doesn't she I don't even know if she knows how to use a laptop Sometimes you wonder had an iPad at some point, but um she worked her phone. Yeah Yeah, I mean if you had another character, huh? She only knows how to swipe right right or left It's basically Can I can I swipe and can I can I swipe left and right to find these people who Hacked my phone. It's like no no gen. That's not how it works I mean they have a disagreement these two but it's over uh One of them wants to go after them with any means possible And then Jen's like no we got to do it legally and they have this just just this awkward line where she's like fine I guess you're gonna go old gen walters about it as if like gen walters paragon of law Oh Yeah It felt like they pulled it out of their ass through a like, you know gen walters. She's like she'll always do things by the book You're like what? No, she destroyed a parking lot and left a note By the book by the not only did you leave a note? She's so I think someone in chat had mentioned she She left a note, but she said it was from spider Uh evil or misogynist man says he's he was dating her before she became she Hulk And she was psycho well before the powers and he blames the grandmother It's it's a bizarre moment that happens in this episode and it's never any reference again to it It's something they clearly cut was gonna be a resolution with this misogynist man. They'd ever filmed it all the way never did Thing is right. I mean They're they're obviously presenting it like this is a lying douche is doing for attention But I mean we haven't seen Jen's whole life and the way she you know Treats men and stuff like I wouldn't put it out of the realm possibility like they first met they did date and she was awful like I mean she is awful. We know that But like With a movie recognizer as such This is the thing this is like a setup like look at what's happening This guy's saying these awful lies about she's been so mean It's like oh, so by the end of the episode at least we'll see him and she'll You know, she'll push him over and you'll fall into a puddle or something, you know We got you you go humiliate now He'll he'll be drinking coffee and then she'll she'll go boo and then you'll go Oh, no, my coffee's all over me. Ah, you got me. It'll be real satisfying But they legit forget he exists. He's not in the rest episode Okay, just like you're like an ultimate douche because he's a douche is yeah, is that funny I guess it's just boning on to the pile of um also smug Hulk is what he is called him and the uh, yeah Yeah, um But I guess I guess I need to call someone else hot smug. I know Oh, I can't be smug I mean, I think that was just as a reference to uh, what uh black widow called him right Black widow called him smug hulk No, well, so I would say references to their own conversation He calls himself smart hulk and she says more like smug hulk because oh yeah smug person would take the name smart hulk Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. And then it was black widow had called Right black widow had labeled him named him smart hulk. She changed the smug. Oh god. I forgot that I was here I was forgiving it now. It turns out. No is actually she is a piece of shit. Okay, cool If ever in doubt you can rely on that, uh incredible deductive work Yeah, to her being She's really depressed and she says I'm getting screwed over and then she looks at the screen She's like, is that what you want? And I'm kind of like well Like do you want the honest answer? I don't know Um, so she decides on a whim. I'm gonna go to a mule blotski's place now. It's like really You find that place hyper cringe, but you're gonna go there. I guess so sure fine I'm sure that there's no reason you're going there other than the fact that you want to that's the only reason And the chief is last place her feelings were validated. So that's true. They can all tell if she's right And maybe blotski will explain how to hack the fucking inhibitor. Who knows? Oh and My again because they can't have any decent like male character in this that whole Like get away people already. I was already thinking. Oh, they're probably, you know, the people that hate her online or something And when she goes there who's there? It's not the exact same characters, but it's pretty close I have arguably a funny story relating to that because I was watching this episode for the first time and taking notes When uh frames on the call when we get to let's call it moments before that I alleged it was just like how in the world are they going to connect these two plot lines her going to Meals and the intelligentsia one. I was like how A man they do it great. It's just great. Stop notch Because uh, yeah masterful She's off to a meals. So now we cut to a friend who's posted a picture like a video of her in college As a way to prove to the intelligentsia people that she's just like them And immediately like I'm not even kidding. She she posts the video We see it's not even been up long enough to watch the video and there's comment comment comment comment comment It's like wow this is fast They're just waiting. They're just sitting there waiting and then a direct message from hulk king immediately saying there is a private event tonight You should come details below epic find on your video Like that's just not how anything works See you can't do anything this fast. Holy shit Um, I also thought it was I also thought it was funny that she's on the um the images subreddit and she's posting a video like There's a reason reddit split things up that way, but oh obviously Whatever, this is a fake site. There could be any It's whatever. It's just it's just all this online shit whenever you see corporate online shit. They always get everything wrong You've got section number one of this whole website is called posts What does that even mean how is that useful the posts one a post I get yeah, if I want to put an image in a caption. Yeah, I guess post is for nothing where it's just text But no links videos or images. I was trying to make sense of this. You've got she's uploaded a gift or a video I think it's a video. Yeah, it's selected as video to the image subreddit with zero views many comments direct message on the images subreddit of the post section Of intelligentsia and there's a messages section a live section subsection than markets say A bizarre whatever I'm sure the person who made this hasn't actually been on the internet before or at least outside of like twitter I mean and also just like think of the video This is has to have come from someone that knows gen personally And if they this appears on the internet it's never been seen before wouldn't your first question be Where the hell did you get that? Do you like? There would be cautious suspicion about this post and not like oh, I trust you completely come meet me in person. Yeah, it's ridiculous Now Yeah, uh, you guys want to know what those comments say you got found this video she hulking college begging for attention That's that's her title for it. And then you got so she spent law school dancing instead of studying And they've she looks fun back then. Yeah, they're fun. Um, and they got would have hit it there Now she's an angry beast Now I want to hit it even more I'll angry beast through my fetish You got you can see her thug at 117 the clip isn't even 10 seconds long And how could you have seen it yet? How could you even know that? It's like you knew this video existed You're waiting to comment on that. So this is like what the fuck this happens immediately. It's so weird Then you got good find brosef. This is what I heard I like I like the good find brosef comment brosef Bro-sef and then you got owned. What a joke. I used to like that song even her roommates hate her Nice own then lalalalalal Yeah Um, yeah, she gets an invite to wherever intelligentsia meet that's exciting in them Wow, the way that'll go. Um, then of course. Yeah, this they like See you at the event bro and because she reads that she's like oh they must think I'm a guy because I hate women Then she so she gets pug to pose and we'll get back to that But now Jen arrives at Emile's place the guy who previously wanted to blood and she never asked about any of that It's like don't worry. I'll get you set up with a room and she reads Emile's book. I think the quote she reads out is My heart beats the same as yours yet. You call me a monster. What does that make you or something like that? And then she says this book sucks. It's like Why why do you have to do that every time? Yeah, why do you try to make him out? I mean, he's letting you stay here for free All right, and you're taking advantage of his kindness and accommodations Like maybe you don't have to insult him especially when you're you know reading his book And it seems like he genuinely is trying to help people become better It's also it's also interesting because isn't that the premise of the like pseudo-feminist take of this show is that like why why am and and also her being She hulking what she literally just went through where just because of her Being a hulk and having one outburst of anger. She was treated like a monster and very unfairly given the circumstances It's like here's this message that actually pertains to everything that's going on in the show All around and and yet she's just such a shallow piece of garbage that it's like now This book is stupid. These concepts are stupid It's like you've been running from the like reality of this the entire time and mocking it Because I was gonna say this is relevant just the the hulk stories that exist, right? It's like there's a there's a human in there But a lot of people don't see it because they only see the the surface sort of stuff And as you just said, yeah, she just went through this He had a reaction that even she described in a prison cell was perfectly normal for anybody to have in terms of anger And then this book is about that because abomination is about that too at least in this storyline. He's very chill now Yeah, it's annoying as hell. There's nothing to be drawn from it from her side. She's always just like meh Yeah, I mean she what I find so annoying about her is the fact that every time she gets like ghosted or you know They don't want to date her everything she The writers and herself are always finding the reasoning in like in her she-hulk-ness or The guys being the you know a-holes, but She never reflects onto herself as Jen. She's never quit. She never questions herself Or am I good enough or am I just you know, am I actually? Am I actually the problem that's that never comes in her head It's never something that she questions actually, which is so just oh Yeah, the show is hell-bent on trying to justify Jen as a character that everything she does is perfectly fine She's the victim of all these horrible trolls and everything like that. Jen is wonderful even when she's just wrecking property and making the worst choices around and It's I think it's the writers trying to justify their own lifestyle because you know They their lives are probably a mess and so there's like I see drinking and not having a good stable relationship And being awful with money and being entitled and everything that's this is good because that's what they're probably like There's never that yeah This the show does not seem like it was written by people who have a lot of those You know silent introspective moments think about you know, what's within them and they're not into that self betterment Sort of thing. I mean they seem to mock the self betterment, you know character whenever they can yeah What was the other thing they've been doing that it was mocking mindfulness and stuff. It was she hook again one day They did earlier remember when like Bruce was talking about meditation and mindfulness and awareness Accepting the situation that you're in like a level of acquiescence to your circumstances to grow through them And yeah, she's like making fun of that too, which is kind of odd Right when like the show consistently acknowledges that she is not content And it's like everything that that was about and you know what Emile's doing I guess it could be framed as like kind of like a bit pseudo-intellectual or like pseudo, you know, whatever But it's like all of it is ultimately about trying to make you more content with yourself and you just keep dismissing it I don't get it. I don't know what the point they're trying to make is Oh, yeah, she gets bored she wants to go do something else at Emile's place meanwhile Our two lawyer friends of hers arrived somewhere and they have to prepare to get pug in this We can gather information about the members of intelligence here and she says as a piece of advice always referred to women as females Which is okay. Yeah, again, I probably put this in as parody not as anything meaningful, but you're And then he's like, oh, I can't yeah He dude He is like I can't resist using the word soy. He's he's like oh the energy in the room. I can't take it. Ah, I'm not I'm not evil like these men What the fuck are we doing? He's like, I just don't know what to do. I can't do it so yeah, he's having a lot of a struggle session and the Meanwhile we get we get a little taste as the room as we're walking in the room of what these guys are like in intelligence here What are them? One of them says look guys she just sucks and I'm not saying that just because she's a female I'd have the exact same criticism if she was a man They're framing that as a part of the package of being like hyper misogynist. Yep Yeah, so what are you supposed to do then just say nah? Don't criticize it. Don't no criticism allowed Yeah, and I mean the writers think that they're truck being so clever with this We're owning the trolls by set putting in sort of things that are actually said and it's like What what the more reasonable things that people say what's your what what's the only I don't see it It's so weird when Like, you know, it's someone accused I'm surprised they didn't have a quote from one of them in that room being like, you know I like Sarah Connor I like Ripley because they always frame that as well as like see that's kind of proof that their sex is something It's just it feels like yet another one to throw into the self-own pile like your show You you have altered and written your show around the people that you hate Like how was isn't it? It shows how narcissistic the writers are they're absolutely obsessed right with the the Discussion the trolls and everything so much so that they're gonna Craft their entire show around that concert. They will ruin whatever possible You know great narrative that could have been done with this character and subverted and upended purely to just Reflect their own kind of world and what they see and everything because they want to make it all about them And they say like, you know, the writer says like I loved owning the trolls and stuff It's like so you didn't care about making a good story. You just want to try and feed your own ego Hyper insecure, that's so secure though like that you were massively insecure You're right much of your show is laced with like trying to combat like the people in your head you hate Yeah, it's the most desperate cope I've ever seen to the point where they will Sacrifice their own show and write it about it just for them try to and then it shows how retarded and stupid they are Because they think that this is an own By repeating it it's like it's like with someone, you know Someone says something really smart and there and someone's response is saying the exact same thing But in a dumb way it's like Yeah, you think you clip bonds bombs are Dangerous, right? It's like well. Well, yeah, they are Think they're just like just just repeating something in a dumb tone doesn't make it No, people would think that it's clever is like baffling to me. It's and I don't All You've created Like you've created something that's pretty bad And that is being recognized is pretty bad and let's be real like beyond Is anybody even talking about it anymore like even a week after it came out? It's done like it's well I mean, this is it right like this is the edge of the coverage And then in terms of like even a month But I guess the more relevant part right in terms of creating something is the people who said that they liked it Or the people who enjoyed it like how much of an impact is that gonna have long term? Is this a show that they're gonna come back to is this a show that they could actually Talk about at length rather than just like one or two tweets about like one specific line of dialogue or like one specific image What you've created is like is I mean, it's gonna be incredibly dated like in even like a couple of years It's gonna be hyper hyper dated And it's just like the thing that you could have created that was like the story that you wanted to tell that was and advancing like your narrative objectives It's like severely compromised by just like this weird desire to shit on some people. It's just so weird This has no rewatch quality. I just don't can't see anybody just like one day like Turn she-hulk on turn this shit up Yeah, like, you know, I really feel like rewatching she-hulk attorney at law I love I loved how like I love that that that scene where I love that part where I'm Um She got her whole field Yeah, I think the only thing that this show will do not in the long run, but I feel like it will do is just give more sort of Give more ability to people to say well women Cannot write great characters or great female characters or female characters cannot be great because I already see that narrative of oh females written by males and well she-hulk is written by a woman and Yeah, it's just it's so annoying. It's so yeah They're shooting themselves in the foot. They want to like, you know, oh Represent and this is how you're Also, yeah, just in case there was any confusion because I found it so odd as well to make fun of that line specifically the whole I'm not saying she just sucks because she's girls. I say the same she was mad as I Recently we have annihilated many main characters that are men in loads of different fictions like trust me We don't only go after the women. That's not a thing. Oh, yeah There are a lot of really really bad male characters that get written There's several in your own show, so don't you worry about it, but well Just on top of that quickly is just like if if it were a common thing that said like that But it was just you know people's two equals four like you were saying about the the new examples like why throw that in there Like it just makes you look so awful. Like you haven't even presented a county. You're just saying that's a thing They say it's like okay. It's good that they say that it's good that they don't specifically go after women Is it not like what was happening? It's that when they say that we don't believe them We writers we don't believe them when they say that so well the proof and the pudding is it not I'm assuming if intelligence here is a site solely about the badness that is she hulks like well Yeah, I guess that's true then but if they have whole sections of the internet that are all about other heroes Then I guess they do for everybody Well, that's the thing the guy that's saying it. He literally says lady Thor she sucks And I'm not saying this because she's a woman I'd have the same criticisms as the man but I was like But but why does she suck it because if you if he says like lady Thor she sucks because What was one of the crappy things that Jane Foster did in the full movie? I'm trying to remember Imagine watching that movie To be fair, I think she came out a little better than a lot of the characters did for like immoral actions She must well, I mean she sacrificed her life to save a bunch of people which is nice, right? Like that's just a because I'm not gonna get to the mechanics. Wow Yeah, yeah, but I guess it's one of the problems right of like the way that they've written this I don't know like satire or social commentary is that you're trying to map Conversations that people have about fictional characters and the role that they play in a story Directly into a world where they are actual people who exist Like what what does it mean when it's like? Oh well if she was a man to be making the same criticisms It's like about what like who she is or the strength of the character writing like what exactly yeah Are you trying to get out here? It's like it's the same as when they had that thing at the earlier in the season It's like oh wow We gotta have why do we need to have like a woman she halt like a woman Hulk is like what what does that mean like in a universe where that that happened like that happened to a person Who's real as opposed to like a new character that they've created to try and extract value like from an Intellectual property that already exists like these are not comparable. They're not the same thing But like you didn't I don't know if they didn't realize that they're not the same thing like I don't well It's it's really like weak satire It's horrible satire because to my understanding was lady for even very publicly known not we know I thought no one really knew of her apart from the people directly in that film and now Nobody really know about shield. She hasn't had that long on the I don't around that long. Yeah So they break that in regards to it, but all right. All right. Let's let's try and take the lady for example Well, she grabs Stormbreaker and threw it away, which is a pretty dumb move when I'm a they land on the planet and everything And so that's a fair criticism and then Nobody would know that right like Yeah, let's pretend like someone's making that criticism right the thing that exists in the world is that oftentimes when you point out like Something that our female character does and yes, I'm saying female, right? That's really bad They say you're a sexist in trying to deflect the criticism and then the ease results like no I'd easily have that same criticism if a male character did it and we've criticized male characters And then they're trying to say that that's now they repeat is like oh you just Because in a dumb way like that doesn't actually invalidate the logic behind what the concept is and so they're literally trying to Oppose this that anyone who says it is just trying to hide their sexism's and I'm like well Not if the criticism wasn't based on sexes It was based on the action a character did and if they're criticizing something that lady thought did It's a perfectly reasonable thing to say Dude, I think that if you had the writer with you right now and you said so you know when he says he has the same Criticism of men as he does for women What did you mean by that and then they'd probably say something like oh, it's just something they always say when they're trying to hide It's like okay, so if he meant it and if it's true, it's okay, right? I could totally see them being like Well, yeah, but they don't mean it when they say it like she would just keep going back to that presumably It's Jessica gow right she's the lead writer Yeah, it's that's what they say to hide their sexism. Yeah I just want to keep trying to clarify. It's like but if it's true that we're good. Yeah, I just feel like it's not true though It's like okay, but if it is Run with it for a second, please Anyway, yeah, so pug is trying to Sorry, I really want to unpack this because I want to try and find is there a context in which that word would actually work And so what if the criticism was actually legitimately say sexist? And so what's a criticism a lady thought that people could say is actually sexist like? she Swings her hammer like a girl. You just say she's too she acts too intelligently for a woman Just go that route that would be a sexist Chris is gonna say like no woman's that all right, okay? Okay, good example But still now the line that follows and I would have the same criticism for a man And it's like it actually doesn't work even if they're being legitimately sex is the only way that line works if the criticism Wasn't truly sexist at all You're right Yeah If if someone one of us said I hate how they portray a woman to be so smart when that's just not possible And I'd say the same thing about a man at that point you either clarify like do you mean human? You mean it's too smart for a human. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I think is like Oh, so you just mean you mean everyone because you specifically said woman when you could have said planet exactly Human just not you're just smarter than the planet But yeah, that it's one of those things that people say you know like that's really weird immediate follow-up question Exactly like it. I don't know man. It's They're fumbling pretty clear the insecurities pouring in and we're about to hit critical. We're almost there. Oh I can't wait the pug. Yeah. He's trying his best to ingratiate himself And you might have the obvious question of like well wait if these guys are all obsessed sweaty nerds and they watch every move That she helped makes they're gonna recognize pug pretty quickly, and he's like a friend of his works with her So that's you know Which is like it's half and half let's put it that way on one side nobody recognizes him for a while Let's just put it that way. There's little change eventually Sorry like I'm going through Reading the the subtitles and you can pick up everything they say and some of these are such is so dumb like what is like? Yeah, too many emotions and then a follow-up lies like yeah, no one's allowed to make jokes anymore Yeah, there's no verification for getting in here by the way you can just walk in Yeah, I guess the only people who know to be here are the people thing about it is As much as like maybe agree with that the thing is they do illegal activities as a group apparently so you're gonna want checking at the door, you know Yeah, you want someone to be like do you have your your bro card? Yeah, and you know it to him Okay, bro. You could go in bro. Thanks, bro Say the postcode and they go BRO BRO Yeah Todd is here and it's like of course Todd is here. He's the evil misogyny man So of course and he says pug and we're like, oh no the stakes have been raised because we like pug We wouldn't want pug to be exposed and he recognizes him because he knows him from the law firm He's like oh no no no, and then he goes this guy rules. I knew he'd be One of us and like hates women sort of thing. It's like, okay. Yes. All right I could smell it What he says like this guy rules to like give him, you know some clout for everyone else. He says and he's hot And then all the other guys are like wait what what what and then even What's so I think it's good. What are we doing? I think they're trying to say that a lot of us are repressing our homosexuality and that's why we hate women, right? It's some it's an element of all these guys. I bet a lot of them are actually gay I can speak for all of us when I say it's true 100% Oh, I don't repress my gayness. I just I let it blossom. No, this is what it looks like when you have repressed it Rags, that's how powerful it is. Oh Haven't turned it up to ten yet. I thought these writers are supposed to be like allies and LGBT positive and all that stuff and now they're trying to say that there's something bad about Imagine a from their perspective what imagine the gay guy bad that they hide it's bad that they repress that no, yeah Of course, but interpret it a little less Like like generously and if you were the gay guy in the boardroom and all the women are talking and writing this scene They're like, I mean the most common reason a guy is gonna hate a woman just fucking gay and he doesn't like accept that I imagine the gay guy would be like wow And she's like no no no no no you cuz you're open I'm talking about like repress gave it. It's like Oh wow those fuckers Haven't come out of a closet yet join the fight coward and so um, yeah I think the message here was that they're either repressing their homosexuality or that everyone else in the group doesn't like homosexuals Because he like instantly takes it back and tries to well, yeah, because they're all they're all like wait what what what? Take your shirt off Take your clothes off show us how gay you are wouldn't that be gay? Dialogue at lines just continually cringe. Yes. Oh Yeah, I was just saying you guys I was like she sucks and she is strong as the whole case She is smart as the Hulk and it's like all they're saying is that she is not as strong or smart But they're not necessarily pointing out all the actual things that make her awful like destroy party enough He's like that they completely missed all of the references for why she's an awful human being instead They're just like she's not cool guys. She's cool She's also definitely demonstrably less smart. Oh, yeah Yeah, that's not a criticism. That's an observation. I think that We didn't write the show they did so Exactly, that's the funny thing about it is all of the failings of the character belong to you writers and you're recognizing them Constantly and pointing them out people who say it everyone in that barn who's like, yeah She's not as strong or smart as a Hulk and everyone's like, yeah We are not also though and it was bizarre Do they really feel that people would have like this desire and necessity to say these things with other people in person? when usually like just Trolling criticism is it's online and has no real manifestation in like where I need to be You don't go to misogyny meetups. No Okay, I didn't We're always looking to add new members We're meeting up in a barn somewhere. Also just the guy in the chairman hoody that was in the corner in the last one That wasn't me Our enough to recharge in your misogyny cells. Don't anyone to know the armor of Man this yeah, one of them says she didn't even earn her powers And then she recommends him say she got everything through nepotism and then he says it and then they all go Yeah, yeah, just like oh good job. Nice one, bro It's like well, so I'm pretty sure that comment that the underlying thing is just that everything's been handed to her Is is and why it's like will she happen to be related to Hulk? That's the only reason really It's just a fact I was gonna say they wrote the show. I didn't I don't know why you blame me Yeah, I mean that does I mean that is correct. Yeah, the Yeah, she would have I haven't heard that as an actual like troll criticism like where they're repeating that from of like There's lots of superheroes that get their powers through Circumstantial things where it's just given to them sometimes. They're just friggin born with it I was trying to say like that's where I mean not only do people tend not to To gun for it as hard as all the horrible things she's done all the immoral things She's done because there are here's like you just said who have fallen into as opposed to not everyone's Iron Man Right and they build their own suit and put it on to themselves. Some people you get fall into a toxic vat of Chemicals, right? That's common. That's most of the villains I think by a radioactive spider and now they have the spider Spider-man's half and half because he built his own little web slinger stuff. I guess it depends when you're doing yes was which aspect it is but there is a Not the not the route I would go because it's not her fault. We mainly criticize her actions I'm what she chooses to do with her power like it's Yes, that's the focus But this is where I mean they want to have the cake and eat it too, right? They want to be like whatever criticize away, whatever you want. We're having fun We're doing it and then they show is filled with caricatures of their critics Like mmm, you're not doing a good job Yeah, it seems like because someone's gonna watch it So it's not to toot our own horn, but someone's gonna watch a video like this or any if any of us make a video on this and They you know all the arguments are presented though. Oh shit. This wasn't like the episode at all This isn't like the caricatures of people at all like these are full of arguments and they know about comic book Callbacks and they're trying to you know change the story for the better and rewrite things and pointing out all the inconsistencies like that This wasn't what I was led to believe that they were It's once again They are they think this is such a funny own where they're like we love trolling the trolls and all it does is make them and Reveal them to be astronomical morons. This just makes you look stupid if you think it's like really Dumb the fact that you made the main villains of your show trolls It's the best thing you could do for trolls the fact that you made that you put them in their show so Prominently it's like we clearly bother you so much. I'm saying we is if you know, we're trolls We make we bother them so much They think about us so much that they have to spend all of this time and effort and money to make a show Where we are the main villains. Yeah, we've done such a good job. We know that it works They just I know that like the biggest win ever Like they are so insecure. He's made a whole shit's like they went that. Oh, wow. I Think we can all speak from personal experience that if you give any amount of attention to a troll or someone It's it's gonna backfire always like absolutely. You ignore them Of course, it's like one of the first rules of the internet. I'm like literally just wait They ignore them you guys need to stop are you serious? You're gonna sit here right now and suggest that people with like a you know, $50 million show budget Should ignore people who are on Twitter like that. They Unless they have no life outside of Twitter and they draw all their self-esteem and importance from it You know, if you are if you are that pathetic of a person I'm outside of that because I feel like it would be that pathetic, right? Yeah They certainly wouldn't I Just I love the yeah this whole concept. We're gonna own these guys like nothing Nothing validates their opinion more than the fact that they they know that you're sitting around seething over their criticisms all day like and Like geeks and gamers knows that some of these people actually are because they've reacted to them specifically and it's like So then you're like, I know how to own them I'll put them on a platform in front of presumably potentially millions of people and I'll I'll talk about it But then everybody watching the things that way and get stuck with the the she-hulk Or who's watching she-hulk, but it's like at all going man. His character is trash. They go wait Wait, they just ripped all these lines off from other people were saying this. Who are they? I think I agree with their opinion Well, you mentioned them specifically and I I don't know maybe it's just me but When the the hackers took over the screen and they had those masks Were they supposed to be like Doomcock masks masks? It could be it's that but I had heard one possible explanation that it could be kind of like I Caught conversion evolution where there are these kind of type of masks that you can get have that have a similar profile now So, but it's either one of the air. I would literally if they were like this fucking guy who talks about as Looks kind of like this. Let's make fun of it. Like I could believe that I Nothing was surprised me anymore So yeah At one point he's like someone says that did she sleep with a boss and then pug goes Yeah, and it pisses me off and they all go. Yeah. Wow. We're And I was just like hang on he's like a huge font of information They should be clamoring for every last detail. He would have you'd have all He just confirmed that she got the job by sleeping with the boss like that's huge. That's that's actually something They haven't got anything really. Yeah We you tell us about it. Do you have any pictures? Do you have? He's supposed to be hyper weirdos who are obsessed. It's like they would be obsessed with pug They'd be like pug. You're the best or whatever and we got to get you to get her into compromising positions Where she'll admit things, you know, and but no none of them really care and it's like dude That's like one of the closest confidence. She would have had why would you I don't know no one cares It's like yeah, cuz that's not what you're here for story is gonna get a little weirder. I'm afraid guys And I'm going through the scene and just but again the subtitles of everything that's being said here It's like the powers should go to the best person for the job You've said that so many times What if the whole concepts of the superhero genre is oftentimes powers come to the unworthy and they need to learn how to The learn the response that the spider-man He was unworthy for his powers misuse them didn't use them responsibly and as a result is a and inadvertently let the Bad guy got away. He killed his uncle and he had a massive type and so Understand that oftentimes powers come to the unworthy ends the arc of the story and so this line is clearly a Val like they're trying to validate diversity hiring Literally the hero's journey. It's like Is it not super power superhero is gonna be addressing the nature of the power and how it is used like that is like the thing That almost defines the genre It's it's how you it's how you adopt to be coming to to becoming an outgroup or to be to finding Adopt adapt to becoming an outgroup or to finding some special thing about yourself or some unique characteristic that other people can't identify with or Being born with some sort of wealth or privilege or literally anything it can apply to that sets you apart from humanity But also gives you questions about what you're supposed to do with it. That's the whole genre right there and Critically important. It's like no Certain good fortune should only come to those work and earn it. It's like wait what that Does Disconnected the writers are to the genre that they're working in and yes, you I you really Yeah, you know get the idea that this is them trying to say anyone who says like the a job position Should go to the person the best person for the job like an occupation is just a sexist because Screw meritocracy and they are probably the writers are all diversifies anyway, and so they're just like Trying to justify anyone questions that they're a sexist and that's why they put it in all the disparate You're looking at like the bonus bits of dialogue from behind like you're right So subtitles can grab you stuff that you didn't even necessarily here But some of the stuff you get directly for example He goes on stage and he's like I'm very proud of us for hacking She-Hulk's phone because we showed the world what a real monster. She is Having sex with dudes. What a joke of a bit of dialogue for any character Like they that's a that's not even I struggle to call that a first drafts like I'm very proud of us Like cheeses and then for hacking she-hulks mode because we show the world what a monster She is by that she has sex. You're like Why do you you couldn't even try? Couldn't even try nothing. It feels like didn't even try. Yeah Cuz like I guess that's what Is it supposed to be that she's like all of these guys are just I Don't even know it's tough to say Then abomination trying to betray all these guys's insoles when they actually all really well dressed and well presented and stuff It's like Yeah, they didn't there was nothing about how pug was like Matt smells. Why does no one wear deodorant? They all just seem to be normal people That's the truth. She'll try to expose the normal man is a misogynist them They could be your neighbor Underneath the floor But yeah, then it's revealed that they've got a guest speaker and it is abomination which is immediately It's so funny how Brains work. You're like wait, but what about the inhibitor? I could honestly see the writers being like Inhibited we're not doing that anymore No, we you that we had that one scene where she had it and that that's it. No, I'm talking about abomination. Oh Okay, I got you. I got you. So the fact that he's abomination means that it should trigger the inhibitor, right? It should yes, which means he and he knows Especially as of the two episodes ago if that thing, you know, even gets malfunctions a little bit people are gonna come out and check So no, so he can't get big without breaking it. You'd think so You would think so it would be designed in the case of if if he turns into abomination It will break and that will automatically is the send a signal is the implication that he'll do the speaking arrangement Then you'll go back to normal Emil and then they'll come and check and he'll be like, oh, I was rescuing my chicken from the fence That's what that's what that triggering so it was supposed to be a lie the whole time So I guess that he has been yeah, well, he does pretty much say he does this for money, which is okay, right? There's more to talk about on that in a sec, but yeah He just regular and so what a shit inhibitor and what a shit service to prevent him from becoming because he can just do Whatever he wants and then say he was hit by someone shocking But yeah I suppose yeah, even though any of these guys I mean, it's very easy for this information to get out with someone with a phone Especially if it's just speaking arrangements. He's doing but I guess yeah You think a bunch of people who are big into hacking and that sort of thing wouldn't so loudly Do this hole? Oh look at us and look at all the things that we did and we're gonna show it And I'm gonna admit to it in front of this big group Think you'd have a more discretion No, it's well-known fact that everybody who makes it on to an internet forum Always values the integrity of the forum at its maximum At all times none of them will ever be right. None of them will ever be mad or jilted or feel like they need revenge Or or have their information posted and change their minds Nothing like that. No one would ever try to infiltrate one of these groups Everything works perfectly all the time forever and they got it on lock because you know, they have that that application process We're just says lol. She's 30 you Get you in within literally a second that that they've got it just locked down. No big deal I don't know why you guys are even talking about this. This is well within reality Well, the whole show is very good actually Yeah, people say suspension believes like I didn't need to do that. I just believed it all So Yeah, the other thing to address then it's like wait a minute. So where is this? It's like it's in a meals little little getaway is a law just where he's hosting this and so Jen is wandering around right now, so she's just gonna end up here, too Because this is all just happening this way. You might be like, but there's so many contrivances to make all of this happen same time location day the And and the same like really like that's just the and she's like yes move on It's gonna get much much worse, but don't you worry? She comes in and she's like what the hell and he says oh god Jen and turns back into Tim Roth and he's like whoa. I only do this for money. It's just for profit Okay, and then she says I vouched for you and he goes. Oh, I'm sorry that you're upset And then she says was there a real apology in there that I missed I Hear that I was just like well, no, he's he's said he's not sorry for the action. He's sorry you're upset like this That he does he thinks it's okay to sell abomination, right? Which to an extent like yeah, there isn't necessarily any wrong with that. It's just that he's breaking the law by doing it Or at least in his case right so he's upset because it can get her reputation Her non-existent fucking reputation as a lawyer Cuz now she's been fired I was I was assuming she's like possibly lost more than that, right like through being Is it when you when you're like charged with a crime? Do you lose the ability to practice law? How does that work? No, no, you have to So you have to have a disciplinary ruling that says that you you have some characteristics or you you don't meet the fitness characteristics to practice law typically that requires a Conviction of a crime of dishonesty Fraud Something like that, but it can be other things in the course of representation now should Jen have disciplinary actions against her based on her Representation of clients throughout the show absolutely just terrible. Yeah, well, so this is the problem We know she's no longer practicing law. She's not hired by anybody. So it's like, oh, maybe she's not a lawyer or anybody Like I can't tell they don't tell us Right now I mean but like destruction of property or whatever would not be Sufficient on its own there'd have to be some sort of circumstance around that to to lead to disbarment remember that lawyers make the rules regulating lawyers and They all want to you know be able to slip up and do a bunch of cocaine or whatever and not get disbarred and They all want to go out and like have illegal prostitution sex and not get disbarred like they all want those things in the back Of their mind. So they write it into the rules to be very very very lenient You just literally can't like seal client money You can't commit some sort of fraud or whatever because then you wouldn't be able to represent yourself as honest before the court So, yeah Abomination does speaking events just for money He's got no intention of doing anything evil Which is what I thought they were gonna do the reveal for but in that know he sees chill Then the two lawyer friends burst in the room I go shit and then Josh reveals to be not only a part of intelligentsia, but like it's leader and that a He hired Josh No, sorry, Todd hired Josh. I mean Todd's the leader he hired Josh to get her blood and To copy the the data and he's revealed this and then he says I Didn't get handed superpowers. I had to earn them as he is handed the superpowers because they're very funny And very clever when they made this show The only thing about that that I wonder is like okay being handed superheroes does not make you a bad superhero That's not the crux of it. She was pretty much handed them to so if you're trying to say like see he was handed them He's actually the one that was wrong. It's like well, so was she but well He worked harder to get him because he made this whole site and he organized all this together I heard in this plan. He started the plan to get the with Josh and everything's like if anything he he did I mean not earn, but you know work towards getting those powers so that he could get that vile I just want to be clear that I understand what the show is trying to do here Right, it's just trying to be like he's a hypocrite and I'd be like, okay Yeah, fine, but I don't agree with this position anyway like the nature of you acquiring your powers doesn't necessarily say anything about you Oftentimes we wait until what they do with them. The fact is like this doesn't change the fact that she was Basically thrust into having powers. That's like a big part of this story was how she's dealing with that So I don't know but anyway, he's got a blood he injects it and he becomes the cringy as Hulk that you've ever seen your entire life People might try and say I know you can't criticize this because they knowingly abandoned this plot lot plot threads Like no no wait wait wait. They actually spent several episodes Building this plot line up and the fact that they abandoned later just actually Destroys the reality of what happened the guy was there. He did steal her blood. Now. Where is that gone? Nowhere? It's it's literally ripped from reality. It doesn't exist anymore But the thing is no because they did build it up I feel this was unintentionally where they were Intending the show to go and when it goes off the rail was all part of the rewrite because it was so crap We have we have tons of examples right they have the evidence They have the blood thing in uh with Hulk He's like I can't get it and then of course the fact that they had the blood stuff with uh those guys earlier in the season Like it was it was a consistent thing Like you can decide you want to drop it all you want because of how stupid it was but you wrote it you set it up You set it up exactly and that because this is then what uh validates the criticism Is that what happens here for him should be impossible bruce said Oh Super rare condition But shat there was a throwaway line where he said we synthesized it. So it doesn't do that. Yeah. Yeah They figured this out with science Look, they can you wrote it They could make an internet forum. They could definitely do this. I can't believe you And what is this thank you says come at me bro, doesn't he? It's just wonderful It's embarrassing. So like Maybe it might be worthwhile once everything gets laid out to just sort of run through the list Of everything that's happening here and how absurd and all well. Yeah, I've been trying to sort of flag it up Right, we had this is intelligences meeting you have jen has arrived to point out a bunch of things But also abomination is here the two lawyer friends are here and now Todd has become a hulk While this is happening. She's like, oh, is this where the season was going? No way like this isn't where it's going It's like, oh, what you mean the season that you guys wrote. Yeah That's pretty pretty shit. Yeah, but it gets worse That is true. Yeah Look at this Yeah, this is this is one of those uh, you know how it was going where it's how weird is now sort of thing Like in terms of the MCU How it's currently going Jesus, I like how this is meant to be like hulk. Do you remember what hulk look like like before What hulk actually look and I guess this is the nature of being a hulk now, right? Is that you you always have there's no alternate personality. You're always just yourself now You've lost one of like the biggest facets of of the uh of the character And of course the insanity of this if it was so easy to think Synthesize hulk serum from just hulk blood the u.s. Army would have like an army Isn't that what the credible hulk is about? In the MCU does the the bros is trying to crack that shit? And it was really difficult that they the context that even when they were if they were able to get the blood It'll be so damn hard to do you but this random idiot. He just gets it and he's got it instantly It's like ah suddenly it's easy I'm sure they could have found hulk's blood somewhere in the battles with the avengers and everything because aren't their times where he actually Legitimately bleeds or when he's in bruce banner form and they if it was this easy Yeah, it'll be an army of hulks already. I can explain that care about wait His team of science is a better than their team of sciences I I gotta I gotta say one this might be internally consistent with the show even though it's completely inconsistent Remember bruce's blood Didn't work that way Her blood was better blood and they made a point of it in the first episcopal That's uh, but I mean he said it was like a one in a so what do you need to synthesize then if it's that great I don't know but if they i'm just saying that would be the defense to the consistency would be Well if they took hulk blood they weren't able to crack the code But it was actually something in gen's blood that allowed them to crack the code Because bruce then used it to fix his own blood And that just creates tons of problems though it now means that jennifer waltz is just walking around Like if at any point she's vulnerable and somebody manages to get her blood it's like man, this is uh, yeah Ross compared to a nuke, you know Ross compared him to a like a like a nuclear weapon in civil war rightly so like the amount of damage that one whole thing do Is crazy like the implication but but it's never going to get addressed. It's over like it's over this particular plotline You know, it's not going to be like a thing anymore going forward Maybe it will but I doubt that it will be handled particularly, uh, well if they do decide to pursue it in the future I don't think they will Then As I have yeah, titania shows up It just shows up Just because the point of that character now she's there I don't know. I have no idea why she was even part of this show I think that's part of the meme I guess is it there's like now is it the meme? I thought you isn't like titania like she hoax arch nemesis. Oh, obviously in the comics, maybe but in this show This show has been pain. She's a jerk. She's a retarded joke Yeah, I mean the whole thing is i'm really strong for some reason. Also. I'm an idiot. That's it. Yeah Like oh, that's great another idiot character. We need more of them Because jennifer acknowledges that it's stupid. That's okay Well, they're trying to lean into it because this is where jen starts to say, oh, what are we really doing this? And then they're like, oh, oh, oh, let's try and make the joke to pretend to build up to a marvel stupid kind of Spectacle ending. Uh, and so they throw in they throw in her they'll throw in bruce. They'll throw in combination There's people in show haven't seen this okay So this is important, right? Todd tries to attack jenn abomination pulls her out of the way to protect her And then it gets really weird abomination starts just like fighting the guys in the room Because Todd commands them to attack she hulk I'm sorry, but what what universe does a random sweaty four-chan nerd physically attack abomination and she hulk what? Let's get off your first re-action jennie Imagine how much fun it would be if they all ran away like as soon as this happens Yeah, that would be funny He's only an 18 foot monster Like I've mentioned look who it is Bruce is here jumped from space presumably man. This is great marketing material Man like it's really great to just have like bruce jumping into action for the marketing material to get people to watch the show Totally like no adverse sort of Objectives when it came to writing all of this you see he's mistook the situation. He believes abomination is attacking she-ho Thus thus we can have footage of hulk fighting abomination the rematch for marketing material But I mean the rematch in this case My goodness what happens? What the fuck happened? What happened? Dude? You used to be as big as him like He's a manlet He's a hulklet What happened used to be like this name size and you have this crazy massive battle. What happened to you? to be fair Hulk had some IQs. He embraced his femininity. IQs would deliver to hulk, so That's her Look at look at this fight. Look at it I tell you the funny thing is around to hulk uh getting in touch with his like Inner zen and hybridizing the two uh disparate personalities into one made him into um a controlled But weaker version of hulk, right? Abomination just stayed as fucking big as he was All the stakes are fucking dead bruce is just like mad you managed to do that. That's amazing what I did I had drawbacks you seemed not to and he's just like no He's like, how did you do it? I don't know zen yoga. Look, all right I know I know yet the incredible hulk. It's not a great movie at all Uh, but like man the fight is so cool It's so intense and violent like and broad feels like it's too basically unstoppable forces going at each other Look at this. What look at this This is like Yeah, the fact that the fact that he's wearing like a what like a hoodie and then Abominations wearing just like a t-shirt fighting each other It's just lame. It's lame. All right And and sometimes someone might convince you like the abs. He was always been like this like it hasn't No one has here Don't tell that lie But I mean it's worth it's worth Yeah, like recapping in terms of what happened here Jen just decided to go To hang out at a meal's like little compound Which just so happened to be the place where he's doing a speaking engagement with the group that is specifically targeting her That just so happens to be run by the dude that she was like that she went on that awkward date with And also her friends are there scoping all of this out and then all of this stuff happens, but Well, what does it all what does it all lead to? What does this bring us? Can I just say this screenshot's pretty great with that subtitle as well? Is this This is when Jen Like this is where Jen She starts to say lines that I think I don't know some marvel higher up of the people who saw the first cut of the season said It's like is this this this is a mess none of these stories make any sense These are lines Jen says and it feels like this was yet, but higher ups just saying this is dog crap Get rid of it all and then rewrite it Is this necessary? It's like yeah, because you used a bunch of footage of fights in the show as part of your marketing material Several of the plot points did lead to something like this even though it's Yeah, it really contrived way, but they there are plot points that were building this up and Well, I would just say it's like if the claim is like, oh man, we don't need to end with a big fight It's like sure but you still use plenty of fights because you knew you needed it for marketing You don't get to use it for marketing and then run away from it like I'm sorry And we all know when you have a finale for a tv show you typically have something large happen big happen Yeah, doesn't need to be a fight. That's but marvel shows tend to have a fight I mean it's been pretty consistently reliable and they show a cool fight at the end It still would have been better than with what what they went with well It's the problem is not strictly a fight. It's just been every single time It's been like some stupid fight that is not well informed in terms of character motivations and really stupid like logistically Like every single time like in phase four for the most part They've ended with some dumb ass fight But like there's nothing wrong with a fight in and of itself and you didn't need to have a fight That's fair, but still Use you wrote this you you set it up to be this way And I just find it hilarious Jen literally says none of these storylines make any sense Any sense the storylines you won't By the way, my vlc players glitched to the point where is this necessary will rebate as long as I'm hitting See vlc wants to have some commentary on this, but yeah, so She quite do you make me play this she questions it to the point of she decides. Fuck this. I'm breaking out of the universe which um That's a thing this This is like there's going off the rails and then going off a cliff. This is where the show just destroys itself They didn't do it to like this extent where Like what undermines any possible stakes or investment in the show because now if she hawk has ever done anything in the future You'll be like well if she gets in trouble. She can just rewrite reality jump out of her show and and literally like Oh, it's it's unbelievably retarded. I want to watch iam groot or it takes a bath That's what this is. I'm all coherent. Yeah I never wanted to punch A writer more I never wanted to punch a writer more since I watched the rise of skywalker Oh, that was another great movie This was the most Overtly disrespectful thing I have seen a writing cast do to say Yeah All of our show was shit And we know it and everything we wrote is all pointless and we're acknowledging that it was a complete waste of time This is the deus ex machina to end all of them And it's because it's self aware deus ex machina They're like, yeah, no, we know it was all worthless all these plot lines. None of them made sense None of them mattered. There was no cohesive story. Yeah, we got it We got it. Here you go See because they did it on purpose. It's fine Which I don't even know if they did but if they did it on purpose It's the end you wrote something bad and you know, it's bad. Therefore. It's fine Hmm That's a trailer shot that was in the trailer and they were using it as like this big reveal of her costume and stuff It's her breaking out to go to the real world to go talk to the writers of the show Yes, uh And it's such a like it gets way worse once we understand the full nature of what happens here But like, you know, some people will be like so you can never do a fourth wall break And it's like there are so many ways to break the fourth wall I mean, I think of the Deadpool Video game he gets to a part in the thing where suddenly the quality drops and there's a whole It's got in place, you know Assets and stuff that there is like what the hell and he calls up his agent and he says all right This is not good enough. Why them some money and tell them to fix this crap And then suddenly the game repairs itself But the thing is the thing why that works it puts the game back on track in the storyline And you could pretend that that was just this funny little thing side thing But the stakes are still in place the story where it was going is still in place This literally uses it uses this fourth wall break to destroy everything Okay, yeah Like integral to the plot right and once you do that just starting to walk a fine line because nothing matters now because I I don't know if that she hawk fourth wall breaks where she jumps out of the panel She literally rewrites reality because if it happened in the comic book, I would criticize that as well Okay, because she just like literally why like she could have jumped out of her reality and Remove Thanos because she didn't like it. It's like this is insane. Nothing matters now Like like you thought you could have topped Loki with removing free will from the universe This is just insane I was gonna wait until we get to the cavern thing. All right, and we're almost there a little bit more time We got some more cringe to go through. Yeah, there's a couple little bits before that so Um, you walks in on the writers for she hawk and one of them is saying like What if the entirety of season two is just a dream sequence? And it's almost like I'm just saying you're like so you're writing it as though you guys are airheaded idiots that come up with really bad ideas, huh? And in reality, you think what you've written is actually like brilliant Yeah, um, I found this really bizarre because When she comes in they don't seem that shocked They're kind of like oh there she is and then she hawks like what's going on. Why is this the finale? And I thought when she said that she was referring to her being here because they'd written her to come talk to them Because they don't Say this makes I guess it depends on what layer Very very high There's so Right and drunk Also, this is fiction because I'm pretty sure there's no men in this writer's room Like in actuality because these are actors for the most part Yeah, but you see is She's there like they're that narcissistic and um, uh insecure that they had to validate Into the story On those notes, like what did you actually write down like when you were mapping out this story? What I can read is totally do it. That's the only one I can make out All right, I guess it's just like this is more fiction than reality if they was like planning out Um the story from beginning to end just to clarify right because someone might say What do you mean? They're not shocked. They're clearly shocked. I'm like, right So maybe I should contextualize this a little bit better if my fictional character walked into my room You can guarantee you can garen god damn fucking tea that my reaction isn't gonna be It feels like you missed an opportunity for a joke where like one of them scrambles for like a shotgun or something like seriously People have actually asked me what I would do if I admit what my character I wrote dailin and I'd crap my dachs because I think you'd want to kill me for the crap I put in three yards like I'd run for the hills This is terrifying in so many ways, but they all get over it really quickly. They're just like well because it's funny We got we got jokes and really high caliber. That's why I was confused I thought I thought for a moment that they were talking about how they'd written her into this room Um, but no they are they are so this is she has the second She broke out of the show was the second that she went off their rails, correct? Yeah, I think so So they say I want to point out Oh, yeah I was just gonna say I want to point out the hilarity that In the entire show every man who looks at her for one second. She immediately has sex with There is no danger of sex with either of the men in this room They um, it's pretty fucking embarrassing to know if these people are real Uh It feels it's difficult for them to write any humans, you know I wish I could read those stick notes. I wish we could too Yeah I feel like that I get like in this scene I mean dialogue's been pretty persistently bad in the show But like this scene feels very first draft feels like every line of dialogue is like the worst It's like the first one you would come up with when you were writing the scripts like it's not punchy It's not very refined Like, um, because there's a part where it's like, oh, you know like fights the bad guy at the end Where'd you get that from every other superhero movie ever? It's like, oh, that's uh, it's really weak Like, you know what I mean? Like it's just there's there's no like it's too vulgar Yeah, pretty much, um, like it's it's the first of everything you wrote. Yeah, it reads like the first Yeah That guy in the back is the most relatable one He Yeah, yeah, he looks like he's actually seeing what they're seeing. Um Yeah, they they say, uh, we we're doing it our No, yeah, she said let's do it our way instead of um, because they say certain things are supposed to happen in a superhero story And she says that's another line that's very first draft. I just I don't know if it was that way Yeah, and she says let's do it our way and then they go. No, kevin wants this and it's like wait So does kevin write it or do you write it? Because you just said like what's supposed to happen and they've all got their pads and stuff and it's just like But kevin wants this and you're like, wait, and then of course later on we actually see like with kevin directly Rewriting, so I don't know what they do. Yeah, I have no idea what they even do. That's true They exist just to pretend this writers maybe which is actually more accurate to how marvel functions these days than they realize Yeah, right Um, so yeah, she says fuck it. I'm gonna talk to kevin then So takes us to the scene Um, well after of course she I forgot about this. She skims through an nda that's like 50 pages along. It doesn't read it just because she's very good That's consistent with the character bringing you know it at this point. She don't she don't read it. She doesn't read anything She doesn't read anything ever You don't look like you're here. You really don't look like you are in this scene right now Iron man suits, that looks bad. So that looks like one of the best attempts at their CGI of this No, no, no, this this is definitely like one of the weaker ones Really? I think there are so much worse than this one. Um, there are like she she looks super non-integrated in this one Um, like it really doesn't look like she's there Oh, look, it's the first legal documents in the entire show and she doesn't read a single word of them She's oh, no, she no she missed the uh before like in uh when she went to the prison She didn't read anything the one about like liability for her own injuries slash death and she didn't read it This is unreal, but that's yeah, that's what was that um Yeah, anyway, she said why'd you make me sign this if you were just gonna like raise the alarm and then he's like everybody has to Sign the nta When it when it's funny to me because if you're like well, he distracted you with it, right? That's the point and it's like no, it's just a joke about how everyone has to sign an nta. It's like oh Okay Anyway Yeah, she beats the piss out of everybody Which what does it look if you are hulk strong, how do you like have fights with regular people that are anything Like how is it that she can even attempt to restrain you especially because if you kick him in the chest and send him flying You kill them you're you're a hulk powered individual Better remember what's happening here. What are the motivations here? We've got people here who are doing their job as security guards versus a person Because you want to rewrite your story. Yeah. Well, she wants to escape the responsibility that she's come across which We've seen this before In other characters in phase four who also happened to be a fee bail Running away for your fucking response stop writing them this way And you're like, oh, well, it's not so much like he's she's killing people to do it now. She's just like wonder Look at that. She's killing disney employees He's got a brain hemorrhage now something like that Why did you do this again? This was uh This is one of the most offensive scenes in the show from for all the reasons you guys are saying like this is It's not in the show anymore. This is reality. Like that's the joke is that she's in real life destroying real people Physically might like her show Yeah These are all disney employees Yeah It's just straight up Near kills them because well, I don't like the way my story is going in the show that you have Which by the way She would have defended my actions. It's not and I want to be specific Some people might be like it's not the consequences. They wrote everything right and it's like no no no She feels her reaction was on the level for who she is and what had happened to her It's the consequences. She hates it's the fact that she's being stopped from being she-hulks Fact that she has any punishments at all. That's what she wants to change She doesn't feel she's a person that made a mistake This is important. No She doesn't feel that that's the whole show. I mean the entire character and this is what makes the show even worse She's a static character. She learned nothing and changed nothing from the very first moments When she becomes she-hulks. She's like no, I don't have any separate voices. I'm a woman I did it better. I did all this stuff and I I deserve all of this and I don't have to worry about the responsibility I'll just walk away from it. And she's like, yeah, no All the responsibility comes crashing down. No, I'm gonna run away from it And it's like So what about this character is interesting? Why did this story happen? Stories are what? Who? Stories are how someone changes typically speaking if you have any sort of character driven narrative and there's none our characters A fucking prop It's not even a good prop and I would say the closer you can get to fully having a coherent character. It's an awful person But hey, I think that's most actually Shown in this scene. So this scene she sees her whole room filled with tv's showing marvel movies And there's a couple of stands for the comic books, I think um And then this robot Hello, I'm osmo Like it's osmo it actually is the kevin stands for a knowledge enhanced visual interconnectivity nexus Stole the joke from the south park. Yeah And look, he's got a little hat too like a little robot hat Seven figgy wears a cat like all the time always So like he's got a little robot hat Yeah, hey look, all right They I saw that uh, there was like concept art where he had like an actual cap on I will commend them a little bit for trying to integrate the cap as like a robotic part All right. Yeah I find that mildly amusing I don't know. I'm wondering. All right. Who's laughing at this supposed joke. It's like he's really a robot Isn't it fun? It's like but well, the writers think this is hilarious. They're like We're making our boss into a robot and then laughing their heads off and the reality is most people just like Uh, is this it? Okay. I guess the thing that's amusing is like your stuff basically is made by algorithm at this point That's been the criticism for a few years So apparent And everything that you've made and it exists in this show too as much as it believes that it doesn't Which makes a lot of the subsequent conversation really feel hollow Yeah so First thing that I think is highlightable just to talk about is uh Kevin says do you mind turning back into gen and she's like why it's like, uh, you're expensive Now that on its own I think that on its own would be probably okay, but then he says Wait, don't do it until the camera turns away from you because our special effects team Uh is currently working on something else Which is Like sort of drum like marty from black panther Yes, and then and then the only thing in the room that they can turn to that's not here is still special effects specifically Massive special effects. So nice, but also just man You could have cut that you could have changed it You could have done anything after all the controversy that came out and take away. She's already shitting on the CGI artist So maybe don't a little bit. Yeah feels a little hollow feels a little tone deaf Oh, just it's a bit. Yeah tone deaf would be the way to describe it. Like, uh, yeah, you're expensive Hey, turn off like that's too much. They're already on to the next project with the slaves too hard or they'll die Pretty much I know so I just like I'm sort of pointing out something that is actually persistent in this show is so many attempts that they make to like Reduce as much as possible Like even as as much as they can like the amount of money that they have to spend on these effects or like It's just could you had to get it done like at a certain time? And you didn't it didn't matter how long actually would have needed to take to like fully execute all of this This is the criticism people have had since the trailers is like There's so many cheaper ways that would have looked better by using a body double and just Deep fake the face or something like that It's They wasted so much money to make it look so worse And then they're gonna try and oh make it jerk is like no you don't get away with it It's it's lame, right? You're lampshading that the show that you made is beyond the scope that was even achievable While also recognizing that part of what that means for it to be beyond the scope of what was achievable Is that there were people who had to work Really hard in a short amount of time with not enough money to like create this is like, ah, well Yeah, but they're moving on to the next project. Haha wall Yeah, what is that they've done it like I would want to say 60% of the time someone maybe higher at least that form of uh She's it goes And then like maybe see a shade of green or something and then the camera turns away and you hear And then it cuts back. It's like yeah, it's distance like assistant in the show And all of us are old enough to know it's like ah Because Because yeah, it's cheap. Yeah Yeah, that's cheaper that way and so it's just just pointing it out. It's not cool Because it's your fault that your guys don't have enough time to make this shit Yeah, and now she's in this very real place her suit changes color when she transforms does it I think it does right. It's not purple anymore. Yeah, or purple. It's it's black and it's black and white now There's no purple anymore. Oh, that's a cool thing that jacob so put in there. I'm sure it's not a continuity Yeah, it's just a real cool nature of the thing you stretch it. Oh, wow He is a lot of talent that guy. It's really important that that is a thing that the suit does Yes, well when the when the suit changes color, that's what lets you know whether it's jinn or she-hulk You could tell by the colors on the outfit. Yeah, I'm glad they did. I wouldn't have been able to tell otherwise Yeah, yeah Yeah separated the the kevin robot then says I have the Like perfect algorithm. He says I have the algorithm for perfect entertainment or something and I just remember being like fuck. I hate Marvel like What they've become because it's not even a lie And like it obviously perfect in this case meaning we're we keep making money. It's like you do don't you? I'm sure more is on the way, but um, he also says uh, some are better than others, but I leave that to the internet like yeah This one is you know, it'll be tough to figure out if this is the best one you've made. I'm not sure Um, and then Jen says like the MCU is known for high stakes and oh, sorry the way she introduces this is This is a lore show. So it's time. I make my closing argument and then he's like, oh nice You know, it's you know, it is probably bad Uh, so there's this uh, there's this idea in writing called book ending And if you remember the show started with a closing argument That she was rehearsing so the The writers complete like they this was their clever thing To to bookend the whole season is well, we started with her rehearsing a closing argument now. She's finally delivering one And to the ultimate authority and she's gonna convince him Like I took I took uh about nine different writers workshops in college because I was a literature creative writing major And um, and those are the easiest classes on the planet And this is the most bargain basement tactics Of everybody who like didn't write like me mostly who didn't have like take the time to actually write uh critically So they're just like, oh shit. I have class in two hours. Let me hammer out a short story Like all the stuff is wrapped up in this series. It's so fucking bad Oh, I agree She says the mcu is known for high stakes, but it's often said Marvel movies end the same way and all uh Have to have loads of plot and blood and plot lines and stuff at the end And it's super close to the super soldier serum by the way And it's just kind of like Yeah, yeah, and you're not gonna stop though. Are you you're not gonna stop So what's that worth and also you wrote it Again And then she says because he's remember algorithmically come up with it. This is the perfect ending She says I propose we don't have to do that. It distracts from the story of me realizing what it means to live as both she-hulk and jen And he's like, hmm Hang on hang on distract from the story of her realizing that Actually needing to use her powers as a superhero Would be the thing that would make her realize she needs to live as she-hulk and jen and taking that away defeats that very purpose So she's contradicting herself in her own argument I just I just Comments on how shitty the writers are that they can't actually have a plot line that involves bruce at the end The stupid guy with the blood blah blah, but also having this subtextual Story line running through that allows her to integrate both sides of her life together Like if that was what your body was, you could still do it The implementation was being like that you can't write a plot heavy story that leads to like a dramatic conclusion that's satisfying The the other part of this is them just completely ignoring the fact that They are the ones who have been writing the show and the entire show She's been running away from that and has never taken a single step towards developing that aspect of her character She's the exact same energy in this scene and every other scene that she had in the very beginning When bruce like you need to you need to bounce these two parts of yourself. Nope. They're the same part It's all the same everything's the same. I'm just me blah blah blah blah and then It's it's constantly why I'm not two parts. I'm just me But you are two parts and you never learn that you and the story doesn't even hint at going that way It's like if they hadn't try if they had pre done Five seasons of this show and I watched this first season I would have be under no illusion that in season five she would be no closer to that gold than she is now I hate it. So the show just isn't about that. It might say it here never was. Yeah, but it's never been about that Oh It's like it's about her living her insanely narcissistic life. That's about it Yes, it needs to be about her But I'm reading this sometimes again to get exactly what she says. She says the big marvel fight and spectacle would distract Uh, the show from what it's meant to be about which is her learning to balance both she and gen Um, uh, right when I so let me I I've lost my point. Dang it It's Distract from the story, which is that my life fell apart Right when I was learning to be with Jen and and she oh, okay So her point is that the story is Her life is now like falling apart But hang on a really great way to To show that the conflict of her life falling apart right when she's learning to be Actually, okay, Jen is perhaps a fight and conflict of villains and stuff And so once again the thing that she's saying is distracting from the story She wants it to be is the very thing that would compliment that story. She's a moron And alternatively if that was the story that you wanted to write You could have done a way with some of those scenes that we're building up to this particular like payoff To then focus in more on your actual objective But that would have been harder than just having her say that that's what it should be Jumping out. Yeah, like in the fourth wall breaking section Like that's easier than actually writing it that way consistently throughout the season It also ignores that literally every superhero story is that And every superhero story has the sort of climactic scene at the end with all of the distracting side plots because the reality of The human condition that is explored by the superhero story is the fact that life doesn't stop for you to figure out the two facets of yourself and reconcile them You have to do that while dealing with all the other bullshit that you deal with every single day Yet she again is demanding special treatment from every other from the tropes of the show And also from the tropes of the show that mirror real life that they're trying to explore through the genre It's insane I again Did any of these people learn anything about literature ever? I'm not like a great literature student I'm just I have a basic grasp of common fucking sense And they got nothing and I have no idea where they where they get their Education skill set or how the he's kind of boggles the mind. How do people this untalented get Given this amount of money to make tv shows you do kind of fucking nuts. You have to explain all this to an alien You would be like struggling because the alien would be like, why would you give this much? Like storytelling visibility to storytellers that are really shit at it. You know, I don't know alien It costs less money Actually I actually did a research In a research on Jessica gal. I was interested Not too much. I just searched her up And I think I came up with this some sort of um, she was on um Some interview some podcast. Maybe I don't know like it was a few years back I don't think she was on mcu yet And she was basically talking about her like how she got into the industry and stuff and it was That's what I was searching for basically And if I remember it correctly the way she the way she would talk about writing itself She said I don't remember what she was studying exactly But she said that she didn't know anything about writing or she was not it was never her passion basically I think that's how she worded it and she was like, I didn't know writing. I read comics. I liked comics And I went to university didn't like anything there. I thought everyone else was so phony and uh, this sort of like job thing came up where I had to Send in a script or something for nikolodian I don't remember the specifics of it But I do think that she said that basically the day before or like right before she Had to write it. She googled or searched up how to write a script And that's how she applied for that job and then you know That somehow turned um turned out in her Getting the job Or at least getting the start in the industry a lot of these fascinating for me Writer origin stories are fascinating in terms of how they get to where they are As we know Michael Waldron will now be in charge potentially of the newest Star Wars Movie that's not the taiko it's easy one the first part of the two avengers films as well as probably the next Doctor Strange film Whenever they make that too Why well because he was successful with Doctor Strange? Why why was he given that? Well because he was successful with Loki Why was he given that? freaking morty episode You know like oh I see I feel like there's a leap there that happened to anyone else see it. I don't know what happens Yeah, what happens by enclosed doors and to be fair. It's like how would Loki in you another slot in some things like because it made money apparently I'll never know the actual view council or I don't think we'll ever know the actual view counts But they seem to be celebratory of Loki's success and they've already done a season two so Yep, that's gonna be great by the way. I'm gonna go to that Definitely So Like I said, that was as far as the convincing of kevin goes. He just says The story should be about me And and he's like yeah So she just says Todd shouldn't have hulk powers Like okay, but the whole season has been leading through to someone like that. No, we're just gonna get rid of him No screw it all Breaks the reality of the previous episodes completely, but now that plot line goes nowhere. It's just Even said yeah, I guess the powers aren't the villain. He is and it's like wouldn't that remain whether or not he has powers What what does that even mean? It's like ah, so he got my powers and that's like the bad part It's like I thought the bad part was his motivations to do it. Yeah, what do you mean? They don't know how to get rid of a hulk What are they gonna do? How is he gonna know he's a hulk now? So that's a thing that they wrote to happen So how are they gonna get rid of him? Well, they can just write it out. That's easier. Yeah, he they unwrote it to happen But they also unwrote everything that they would have to necessarily unwrite every aspect of the story that brought her to now I was just talking about this with someone when you uh like There's this deep desire to go back to like some prior point in your life where things seemed easier or simpler or less Complicated, whatever But you forget that like all of those complications and troubles that you're either in or faced from then to now Are made you what you are you can't just undo all that shit and so like to undo this is to undo the entire like Plot that got her to the ability to come here in the first place. It's paradoxical and stupid. I hate it And it's indicative of where it bides at because here's second change Bruce swooping down from literally out of space to save the day in my story My story This narcissistic friggin. I mean, I want to use stronger words, but I don't I hate her It's not at all This infuriates me It's not about the fact that her family has arrived to help save her from what's happening here It's that he's ruining her story by arriving. Yeah It's gotta be about her and to be fair He's already been kind of humiliated here in that he's misunderstood the situation entirely And he's trying to attack someone who's saving her. It's not like hulk right now. He's saving the day if anything. He's making it worse Yep We're gonna say for you Uh, what oh damn it's gone And yeah, um as she's describing this stuff kevin just agrees and blips them out. He's just gone Oh, okay So that's pretty annoying And then she's asked what she thinks should happen with a meal and I think she just says he needs to Take account for his actions. Whatever he needs to be accountable the actions that you that were written Yes, uh There's that and also just like but not you though If you can well, we'll get there too. I think the best time to highlight that will be literally the last moment of the season So perfect. Um When you say a meal needs to take like Responsibility for his actions or accountability It's like you've just discovered seemingly without giving a shit that all of these people are at the whim of kevin Including yourself except for right now where you can control it too Nobody is now accountable for anything they've done. They're all forced to do it by kevin Exactly what now you have the chance To make them anything you want and you've now decided a meal should be accountable We'll we'll discover what that means soon enough, but um We write it's hard to not be a misogynist, you know, a meal to just be like. Yep. I'm under house arrest I'm not going to be breaking out of it But to be honest with you rewrite all the way back to when he was fucking bored and make him a nice guy Just you could have just done that but no She his scope is miniscule. He's only going to do it as far as it benefits her right now It's uh frustrating What you're going to have is that the only way that you can basically defend her character going forward like that she But like you would have to basically treat this as non canonical like all of this The fourth war breaks and everything you would have to treat us like not Like anything to do with her or her character or like her capacity to do this That could only work if you erase the entire she-hulk show from canon because the thing is You can't erase this scene this scene literally affects what happened in the canon of the season. Yeah, and so It it's a step and if therefore if she-hulk the show is canon her ability to rewrite reality is canon because it literally happens and so Deadpool 2 was smart to put it in the post credit scene like after the whole story had run its course The whole story plays out without him using the fourth wall to change the sakes of the story And then he starts going back in time to start fucking with It's a meme right like it doesn't And exactly like in those contexts you can actually understand without needing being told this isn't really canon It's just stuff that's happening in other universes for the gags where The what how is she-hulk is I know this is canon. This is affecting what happens Also when we talk about humor it is very funny to see Deadpool shoot Ryan Reynolds in the head before he accepts great lancet That's funny That's really funny The way that it's framed as well god damn that's beautiful and then the script and then blood just sprays all over it I am I had to step out for a moment Uh, so maybe we covered this but there is an element here of If we have her doing all these things and being aware of all these things Imagine you were in Jennifer's position and you go back to your story What even are all of these people around you are they What are you are what are yeah exactly what I say there's an existential crisis here That jen needs to like struggle with because they're trying to break the fourth wall But they're still doing it in a way that is contextualized within a show that we all of us are watching And it doesn't seem to recognize that If you're her and you realize that all of this stuff is you're essentially changing the reality of all of these characters And their positions and everything like that once you go back there and that's the world They don't have any they don't know any of that stuff happened. They don't know that you've essentially Take taken away what If they they didn't even have agency in the I mean none of them have agency because we contextualize them as characters in a story Not as characters in a world that's supposed to be you know, that a real one This is interesting because I can touch that Jen effectively realizes in this moment that she's god. Yeah, yeah, right You can do whatever you want All of her fantasies become true. This is the primary criticism all the changes. Well, oh, is this a I wonder if you're gonna say this is the king. This is king version two. This is the completion Sorry, I was gonna say primary in the context of criticizing her character when she's given this level of power All she does is change everything to benefit her It's all about her. This is this is bruce almighty if anyone hasn't seen the movie This is the like first half or first two-thirds where He does everything to benefit himself except the lesson of the story is that when you have that kind of power It's difficult to be fair and balanced and just and look after people And that you definitely shouldn't be using it just to benefit your fucking self But that's all she does and she's rewarded for it the the funny thing is also like How pathetic her character is is that? Yeah, it's all to benefit herself, but it's literally all to benefit herself within the next hour Like she could make so many changes that would be wildly beneficial for her entire life For all of humanity sure, but even if we're just going with the selfish thing a mild just a modicum of foresight And self-reflection would go. Oh, okay. I could make it so I have my job back I could make it so that there aren't these complications here I can make it so all sorts of these things work out for a positive for me But she's like no, I just I'm really just stressed out about this situation right now And I need to get out of it and I have the power of god for one second And I'm going to stop now and worry about nothing else. It's like oh my come on And you just Kevin did you get rid of cancer? Yeah, I know right and she's got nothing to ask of the robot god of why he's made any of these choices But simultaneously she's too stupid to realize that he could just be placating her until they get it back in the system And then you can change it all back. She doesn't even know. Yeah, what she can do. I suppose I can't see Everything can be rewound back to what Kevin wanted and he's just trying to get it to shut the fuck up because they're trying to fix a glitch or whatever But she doesn't even think about that for a second. She's like well No, all the changes I've made are permanent just like the changes you made earlier, which are totally not permanent Well, you can undo with us Oh, I'm taking it too seriously I'm sorry for caring. I'm sorry. I took your show seriously Would you prefer it if I didn't like if I just treat it like tell me what matters So when I finally get some kind of emotional payoff, I can know whether Did it matter when like Jen's life was falling apart because she helped save people's like she lost a job Presumably everybody was supposed to care then or like an episode a when she got um all of that stuff happened that when she was at her award thing like Selectively asking people to care about like your story just seems a bit weird You know, so presumably it's all meant to be taken somewhat seriously So yeah, and I guess when I say primary criticism, uh, as I think Shad alluded to a little bit earlier and and again, but Loki destroyed it in universe. This has destroyed it now out of universe two Like there's an implication of where this exists and it's like you found another way to annihilate everything a good job I didn't see that coming And uh, she's an awful person as well as your protagonist So, you know, people were like, oh, she helped really going to be the one of the worst of the phase four things. It's like, yes Seems to be not even difficult. This is like, yes, again I can't believe they did it. They found another format in which to destroy everything Is that none of this fucking matters? Everything is built by some robot on an algorithm, which is almost as bad as Kang, but at least he was a person I don't know if that counts for anything At least he was in the universe. He was ruining. Yeah There's something I guess about that compared to this Whatever the hell this is Um, but yeah, I don't know. Was that close what you were thinking about Shad or was there someone else? Uh, there was that there, um, there was another thing that I was gonna talk about. Yeah It's all serving herself and it's all selfish and things But I also realized that the context of what she's trying to achieve here It's another selfish thing and it doesn't fully answer it is that her Her goal here is to make a better ending for her show Not to make her life better or to like her goal is to make the show better and more popular Which doesn't achieve that this ruins the show so much And also it doesn't undermine the fact that she actually does have the power To affect anything that she wants by just convincing kevin to do anything And so the fact that her goal is I want my show to be best to sever and not help It's it makes her look bad as a character ruins things on So many levels and layers. You can just keep unpacking layers about how awful this is Um speaking of which because uh, I'll try and get us to the end of the scene in the summary But it's hard not to stop every time you read a sentence when she says Oh, and I wouldn't mind seeing daredevil again. A woman has needs I have problems Wow Creepy just just reverse the gender. Okay I mean you could you wouldn't even necessarily you could just go as far as saying man Daredevil's not a sex toy. Okay. He's like a person Yeah, like you escape the confines of your show to wield him around like a prop Say there's a sex toy. It's exactly what what like the idea is here She wants to fuck him again and she can do that because she's gone now and she can move a person wherever she wants A little bit weird and and I think yeah, just To add it back on if this was wouldn't mind seeing black widow again. A man has needs. Holy shit Like how creepy is that? It's like yeah, she is full on rape like You know takeaway persons freedom. Just uh pleasure myself. Oh my holy crap. I thought one was bad This is insane But hear me out on the black widow thing Just stop it Here we go Black widow defense squad all alone So Yeah, I think he then says Oh, well, no, now she starts just ranting about random meta shit like um While you're here, why is it that you have so many daddy issue characters like tony loki thor star lord And it's like you've made out of all the questions she could have asked. That's what she chose Yeah, am I real? Am I real would have been a star? I would yeah, but she just says they got daddy. I just I was just surprised at like is there any others It's just four out of all the characters you're four I don't think that's very true either like um tony was more inspired by his dad and and he had a more complex relation But I wouldn't really go full on daddy issues with tony stark Uh, if we're broad enough to characterize that as daddy issues Then I think there's a reasonable amount of characters with what she's calling daddy issues considering how many there are Like yeah, okay, because she says thor loki same dad same issues like that's not true Like there's a lot of complicated Yeah, especially with how You know Thor sort of closed things with his dad before his dad became a star or how or died or whatever they're Saying that was It's uh as someone who's supposed to be taking over a kingdom that his dad led There's of course going to be things going on. I don't know It's just weird. It's as if to point out like they've got a shitty formula for that when it's like well Got so many characters that don't have anything like to their dramas and to do with their parents necessarily like This is just a weird comment Having a conflicted relationship with your parents. It can be a very satisfying plot line She's just trying to say she's crapping on Far better shows and characters than her own saying all those shows are awful. Why do it's like No, if you were even half as good as those show, you would be Tremendously better than what you've got. You got nothing to try it. I again stones glass houses and all that crap She's makes it look like oh so awful Yeah, they were relatively estranged and they didn't necessarily want to be that was like Tony and his dad Star lord and his dad is you left me and you killed my mum like he's like, yeah Well, I you know, I wanted power and now you could join me in that it's very it's like that's a very different Thing going on there It's like what about Loki and Thor's like well It's about the transition of power from the previous king And then whether or not they they deserve it and one of them goes fucking crazy villain mode Like these are all very different things Whatever it's and there's satisfying elements to those storylines It's like trying to dismiss the whole plot between Luke and Darth Vader's daddy issues when it's one of the most Fundamental important and uplifting parts of the story It's like why are we doing all these daddy's? Because maybe it freaking works and it's gonna be good storytelling. You stupid cow. Oh my god Well, uh, she's pointing out that it happens too much at even though What was the last daddy issue character thing that even happened would I guess ragnarok would be like the closest thing because Yeah, yeah or guardians too. It's one of those two, I guess whichever one counts But in moonlight it was issues with his mum. Yep Um, and I don't know that like Thor love and thunder was devoid of that multiverse didn't have any of that um I guess none of the eternals really have That doesn't oh, I guess That's weird that has major dad issues. That's that's weirdly didn't mention that actually Oh, maybe they're gonna criticize shung chi shung chi is a perfect movie. You remember Well, maybe it's just like they shred up didn't even know like what was going on I don't remember what he told me. Oh, you're right. This may have been written before shung chi. We've got released Yeah, well, why is she sitting down on the floor? She's a child. She's a bit of a child. Yeah Literally it's a child position Uh, she's she's the kid in kindergarten sitting on the rug Uh, the teacher kevin is like again like they take this character who is supposed to be empowered and and Seriously taking Okay, let's let's give them the benefit of the metaphor She has come to take control out of her out of control life with everything She's got with her superpowers with their training with her lawyer skills with every bit of personality And she's putting it right here on the line talking to god himself To change the universe in her better way And then she sits down and disempowers herself completely because these people are children and they have No idea how to be just adults They have no idea how to deal with life because they've been coddled into a writer's room from a roach riddle department And they're gonna go back and eat leftover ramen from their roommate. God. I hate these people. I hate the show so much It sounds like you're enjoying these really annoying petulant characters. Yeah, this is how I would be I Was it was by accident like this wasn't intentional Yeah, this is a rewrite. This is the show was so bad Oh, I guess I just mean like the character in general right like it wasn't intentional to create a character who was like incredibly narcissistic Like it's it it's obviously the goal that like Tony has Narcissism like that there's a problem there that needs to be resolved here. Whereas here it feels unrecognized Well, well, they honestly think Jen's character is wonderful It was intentional in the in the fact in the way that They didn't see a problem with her behavior because they're projecting their own behavior on her So they intentionally wrote her like them without realizing How awful these character traits are because they probably don't see themselves as pretty awful people Well, there's something super judges highlighted. What about Gamora Nebula? They didn't mention them and they've got serious daddy issues True. Yeah, that is true. I mean it might just be because they legitimately forgot that those characters exist Both Gamoras I know they're women. You see women can't have daddy issues only the main No, I think it's just more likely that I think it's more likely They forgot those characters exist that like when it comes to their list of people that they know They went Tony like in the ncu Tony Thor Loki Loki and star lord. It feels like much more earlier on in the phases Hmm It is. Yeah, it really is. Yeah um Also, she asked about x-men and he's like, I can't tell you about that and it's like It's clever. She acknowledges that there's rights and legal and everything and Acquisitions and stuff. It is self-referential. Therefore, it is clever Um, if I refer to myself, yeah um, so as she's leaving she's like Bruce smashes buildings. I smashed the fourth wall and bad Before we get there they tried to salvage the implications of this by The kevin saying you will not be able to access the kevin again that flora now programming has done And so they try to say oh, yeah, this is a one-off thing bullcrap. It doesn't mean it just Anything seriously. Yeah, and you can just screw anything dude in the in the universe I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls her out of the show himself and asks if I help writing something else Yeah Be like you did such an amazing job with shihawk that I need your help writing the new avengers God would be really gay if they um had this If they had a scene where they had to pull her out to deal with someone else who had figured out how to escape The the mcu into the real world and they did this stupid meta like Thing that you know arnold did with um last action hero, but like stupider And not not self-referential and self deprecating God that would be terrible if they make a season two of this. Um I won't even make a joke about what should happen never mind well he says the famous line that uh Sounds like that everybody's on board with she Bruce smashes buildings. I smash the fourth wall and bad endings and sometimes matt murdoch Oh I don't know why anyone goes near your sourdough gooch Fucking bitch She can force them to Oh I don't even know if it's rape I don't know what it is. You even a person. Yeah, she's she would have crafted an ai that wants to sex her I guess It's just embarrassing Yeah, she's in like a little pocket dimension where everything's being controlled by something else And she doesn't care about any of it as long as it benefits her she's like sure fine She's cipher. She wants to go back into the matrix as long as this is good for her It's fine. I don't care about the fact that a robot controls everything whatever I bet she makes fun of dudes who buy sex dolls though I'm sure Even though they're how weird with that she knows they were written to do that Like how weird is it to know like that robot has been crafting your sex life by the way? Just he's behind it all. It's like, okay So, yeah, how does that play out in reality? Um, and she says what's the most budget friendly way for us to do this? When you say reality Oh, yeah, fuck it. Whatever whatever word you want to use Um, so we make it another joke about the cg and it just hard cuts to them back in in the world uh That uh, that's nice and neat because we don't have to show how that happens. Mm-hmm So, uh, I guess she she's Hulk's gone and Uh, bro hulk is no longer bro hulk. Zytania's still here The what happened everything's done. They're what happened over what happened. Uh, what do you mean? Reality got rewritten. Was it so yeah, like because this is the the first question's like so what what's happened? Like what happened in the story that we are here now? What was the sequence that led to this? Yeah, if I ask one of those people what happened while I was done That's that's the big question. What exactly is he being arrested for like right now? There's two ways to answer this question I need to know what ways you're looking for on one hand. She's simply wrote it so that he's arrested Isn't that enough because she's in control of everything Well, yeah, right because it raises the question Is there such a thing as a plot hole anymore when you can just write anything ever? And there's always the rationalization She's got it so they're all arrested Like okay, but if you need a justification it could be that they hack to Stuff and that she's written it so they're being punished for that. I guess They maybe would they get arrested or just What happened though? Was it like I'm calling the I'm calling the police on you stay there. Todd. The better question is like You wouldn't be able to arrest them until you have like the evidence, right? Because just calling the police on they hacked my stuff. It's like who them They did it's like yes All of them were participants in that and did it just it seems unlikely the police would just arrest them for that So again, my assumption is she she simply wrote it so they're arrested and How come there's a strong breeze, but it's only affecting the black guy The air hates me growth The white guy's got a hat on it protects him from the way The clever clever white people Yeah, so the the interesting thing I guess you get there through a A criminal conspiracy To hack her phone if that's what happened. She'd have to prove it, right? She'd have to prove that somehow what happened to her phone was a criminal Well, I guess the state would have to prove that what they did was actually a crime and I'm trying to figure out exactly what the criminal act is here No, yeah, you know, it's gotta be complicated And we probably take ages to gather all the evidence you need to be able to make the case as opposed to just They're resting out and so best faith and interpretation for me is just she just writes it so they go into jail. Fuck them She hates them because she can't be able to deal with this. They go into jail. Fuck them I'm just trying to think like because I'm I'm not saying anyone should do it I'm curious what specific law there is from one private person to Quote unquote hack or obtain entry into another private person's phone Now if if there's a government official on either side of this equation Obviously, that's a problem, but just like I'm going to gain entry into your phone Is a is a specific criminal act. I'm just not sure. I guess maybe there is one She can make it in a universe that doing that to jennifer walters specifically as a crime Yeah, and you know, you're right But it's just because she wants it because still ridiculous things that break reality are happening dead ever literally falling from the sky from nowhere Just appears and so we're still in ludicrous world even though we're supposed to be back in the universe Just stupid random reality breaking you a woman has needs shad Yeah Yeah, and she's even like you missed it. It's like you control when he gets here. What do you missed it? I don't understand. Is she you know, it looks like what? How do I how do I coherently judge anything that's happening anymore? What even is this? And um, yeah did I was just like, oh man, I'm sorry that I missed it. Oh, well I I just want to get to the part that annoys me way more. She Uh walks over to a meal and she says if you sign this you go back to prison for 10 years for parole violation Like well, yeah, that's what I deserve for what I've done. Okay She's written it so that he goes back to jail now For 10 years when as was said He was using abomination for speaking arrangements so that he could earn some money Uh as much as that is true that she's positive messages Oh, well, I think someone would argue the otherwise Giving a speech to intelligentsia the old crazy sweaty nerds a women or whatever But I don't even know like we don't know the nature of that connection But it doesn't matter. None of it matters. She can change it all at a whim And she decided not to she's decided to condemn him to prison Is Perl violation like that Well, um, I don't know. I guess it would have been serious because he is abomination But the fact is like the nature of it is he was doing a speaking thing. He didn't hurt anyone It's got a that's got a factor into how you violate it, right? I assume so So yeah, 10 years question is why Why was he going as abomination to speak anyway? Like what what is the character's motivation? For herning into abomination to do a speaking event, but I I know but like He's speaking as a meal as abomination So like the only effect is this visual enhancement that that's honestly That's all he gets out of this But I could also see the people organizing the events to be like if you don't speak as abomination We're gonna pay you less. I could see them being like if you do it as abomination, we'll pay you more Yeah, I could see it too, but it didn't seem like he was in need of any money. No, I don't know This is something they totally tacked on. Um I imagine they were originally going to write it so that he was evil And they were like, I don't fucking know anymore. I have a theory This happens so abruptly That um, I can believe the original story. This is probably how it started out It was like can we use abomination in she-hulk and then they were like, yes But you need to get him back to where he was once you're done with him They're like well in prison. It's like, yeah, yeah, whatever just as long as you get him back in there However, you want to use him between the time that's fine And then they may have thought like we'll have him being nice You'll get on the parole and then you'll turn out to be evil He'll fight she-hulk hulk whatever and then you'll go back in prison. That sounds good enough cool And then they were like we're busy with the blood plot though I don't know how to get a meal into that. It's like, oh, we're gonna break the fourth wall and talk to kevin as well I was like, so how does a meal fit into all this? Like uh Speak in arrangement as abomination And that violates the parole back to prison. There you go I could totally see it being that kind of nonsense that they didn't know what they were doing with all these disparate pieces Which is funny because you could have had the season focus on his trial Or his parole hearing whatever it could have it could have been all about him and what yeah Like he's like the dark shadow version of of she-hulk a life not taken sort of their path not taken and You can even have hulk cameos then for what he what he means to him and But what all that past that's that's between them and then Throw in the dating stuff and make it nice and coherent in terms of the josh guy's other suggestions We've had you could have had a season of tv is my point Crazy is that you could have Yeah, there's a there's something you could do here. Absolutely. Um, but yeah, this just pisses me off You have full control of this guy and you're like i'm gonna put you in prison because you need to be accountable for your actions which is Just comes across as spiteful. Yep, and super authoritarian Because he doesn't really seem like a bad guy at all No, and she could have written it in any other way that she won't she could have written it so that he's just a fucking great guy Next to her he looks like an angel so Yes, the the the really interesting thing is i i guess his his in universe crime Uh, our transgression is that he was speaking to this group No, it's the breach of parole. Uh, the parole things. That's what she says. It's gonna have to do with this necessarily Yeah, I mean that that would be the criminal act but but i'm trying to figure out if there is some sort of transgression because like He seemed to like not really know who they were Uh like the group he's just there to talk and give a motivational speech and then he's everything else He's doing is good Even rescues are the moment. He finds out that I know none of it counts accidentally put him in danger Well, you violated this rule. Yeah, that's this is why it's so bad She's only getting after him for a book violation if you will it's got nothing to do with him as a character Him as a person. I mean the character of him, you know, like it's uh She recognizes if you remember her main issue was I vouched that you wouldn't go into abomination mode and he's like Oh, I'm sorry. Your feelings are hurt. So there's nothing to do with who he's speaking to or for He's specifically on him for transforming into abomination He's that angry at him and it's it's just like dude. There's a person there and there's another whole fucking point of this season Yeah, like he I I guess he lives a life and I guess he doesn't really make decisions or anything, but I don't Again, it kind of marrs everything it's that it's that Film at that oily film that's on top of stuff. It just you can't not see it Just nice that there's a character who's willing to accept the responsibility that Had a role to play and that by not doing so he's gonna have Consequences from it our main character isn't really into that and it's not annoying No So, yeah, uh, there's a big old family meal to celebrate. We're doing great now. Everything's so wonderful and Hooray Um, the whole family are like wow, dear devil. You're great. You're awesome. Do you are you stable? Do you have money? Can you take care of our insane daughter for us, please? It's like no, I'm just gonna come in once a week and fuck her and then leave He just flat out says it She she brought her sex toy to her family dinner. Yep. Oh god and then It happens Hulk is here He's like, hey guys. Oh nice. He's here. How's everybody doing? They're pretty good. They're really great. That's cool and then You see the the plot line of Because you might have thought like we're near the end of the episode. She was like, what the fuck There's so much stuff. We haven't done remember the pilot. We're a sakarian ship made them crash in the first place What was that about? It's like well Hulk went back to Saka presumably I guess uh this because the I don't know familiar enough with the comics to know but is it world war hulk people were expecting to come from this storyline Pretty much So we didn't see anything. We just saw that that portion of a phone call And uh, he apparently went there and he's come back and kevin actually says like we need hulk in that finale You can't flip him out because he's got to introduce a new character Like okay that character and again, I'm not um I'm just I'm not as familiar with the comics. There's some of the stuff is new but for those who are hulk fans He has a son in the comics, correct? If anyone can verify, I don't know I got no clue. I don't read comics. No, there there. There is a comic book version that is son And this is they ever introduce the end looks he does not look as bad in the comic books And I think it's part of the world war hulk storyline Ah, this is scarred And this is this is not what he people aren't happy about this. No That looks like nobody likes him The first time I saw this I I could not understand what was going on with his head And then tied up at the back is that like the must be a there must be a name for that kind of hairstyle I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, it's called the viola davis I think sujii people sabotaged This show for this was their final act of revenge That would be really funny actually like they submitted it on the day that it had to go out. That's like oh crap. All right. Well Oh, well, yes, this is going out. Yeah, this is not what he looks like apparently And I think people are a lot more invested in the hulk Scar like storyline than she hulk like that's where people's investment lay At the moment and uh, you're probably never gonna get anything particularly worthwhile on that front. Sorry guys But yeah, like all we have to do is google hulk sun scar to get some of these images and uh, and yeah He looks so much cooler in in the comics like Yeah, the guy has been left a toil in the shadows For very long time and that will probably continue So, sorry big hulk fans like yeah I don't know. You're not gonna get what you wanted Not anytime soon. No, um Because yeah, I saw him holding like an axe and a sword in kind of like desert landscape And I was like, oh, he's probably like a full-on champion warrior type and uh, they If they've they've gone for this instead, you know, that's that's what they wanted to do. Okay Okay What do you do with this you're just like, okay Yeah, all right And I think the implication is that when he was in hulk form on that planet in ragnarok He was uh, he was smashing more things than just uh, people buildings Yes Hey, Jen, you got to be really careful, you know passing our blood around because if our blood just gets anywhere and any We just create more hulks willy nilly. Uh, you know, that's really a big problem. Oh, but I also raw dog it But that was hulk not birds Oh, yeah Hulk not worse. That's true. That's true. Yeah. There's the other guy But you think does not use condoms You think maybe there's a story there hulk finding his son, but yeah, whatever. No, but that's something that can happen offscreen We were this riveting drama Yeah, that what what what it priorities like Huh, wow. Now you might be thinking. All right. This is a great story. That's wrapped up all those threads That is beautiful But the one question I have is wasn't wasn't she like They put an inhibitor on her and she had charges against her from the state about all the things she's done Yeah, they're gonna have to happen with that. Hmm. Yeah, that was a big deal. Absolutely We got this friendly reporter here who's delivering all little segment and he says She hulk has been cleared of her previous convictions Oh It's just like titania. It's just that happens just off screen. It's done. That's it Yeah And so the only thing that makes sense is she wrote it so that she has she gets to escape any convictions Yeah done Um, this is the most blatant example of someone fucking up and then avoiding the repercussions This is worse than wander because she wrote it so the universe no longer cares So she can just do whatever the fuck she wants at least want. I actually had to run Like she had to go somewhere else Right. No, she hulk was like no, fuck you. I should be able to do whatever I want Now whatever with that in mind He asks her like what are you gonna be doing? You know, she hulk superhero stuff or jan lawyer stuff And she says well, you know Both because you need to be If you harm someone or harass someone i'm coming for you because you need to be held accountable And uh, we'll be coming for them as both. So it's just like so Is this on purpose or are they this stupid? Um, I think they at this point. I think they're just in fuck it territory. They didn't even care I can't believe Sam Hyde said the same thing and got in trouble for it Well, either they stupid No, i'm coming for you right in real life. That shit was hilarious. No, no in real life Oh She just basically said that's like wait, you're gonna go after them in court or is she hulk it's like yes Oh, the one of them will put them in jail and the other one will cripple or murder them. Perfect. This is fine in real life Also harassment. She said if you do that button if you just even harass people I will come after you as a super hero. I was like wow Yeah, oh my god. It's funny because there's that but I just I just cannot get over that They have the main character explain that she's written herself out of any responsibility for any reactions to then say that My primary goal is to make sure people Are accountable for the reactions. I think I just I cannot like that. It's the most destructive Then you could have it save the entire show. It's not it's not on purpose. This was a mistake. They don't realize That's it. They don't realize what they've written That's it. There's there's no way that that was on Yeah, that there's yeah And I just want people to know that's that's the benefit of like, you know Hopefully you're ignorant of that because if you wrote that on purpose. I don't even know what to say at that point Like well, I like great that our character doesn't have to follow the same principles that she's invested in. It's like Oh, okay. That's an interesting direction to take a superhero story Rules for thee and not for me Yes, and then As if this hasn't been made clear everything's fucked Again Anything supposed to make any sense how we supposed to care about anything you could just whatever The the face for the mc was like being remarkable in the consistency with which everything has been destroyed Yeah, it's it's kind of incredible. No, it's not even kind of it is It's it's like every time that you think that they can't screw it up There's like they find a new and creative way to dismantle everything I can't believe it like I think it's from like From the tba controlling absolutely everything in existence in terms of a timeline That there was no free will on every single choice was determined on kang until that ended And then when you go into like multiverse of madness with all of the incredible like implications That stem from the way that the multiverse works or like um how like characters are connected in the multiverse How to travel the multiverse like all of the stakes and consequences of that So in thought love and thunder it was what like in the center of the universe There's like this entity that people are aware of that they've just ignored that can you can use to make any wish that you want um moonlight like reversing the stars like reversing All of space and time in order to use like a star chart to find like a temple It's it's remarkable It's remarkable and now there's this right breaking out of the confines of Of like the universe that you're even in to rewrite it to your whims what What what more oh an hour of course like a turn was like completely changed all of the rules for like how Space formation works of like stars and planets and that there's a giant celestial poking out of earth like in the middle of the ocean Every time there's like a new wave that they find Oh The destruction is complete, isn't it? Yeah, what will they do? We've gone out of the universe now It's like everything's either in or out of the universe, you know, we finally have done it I don't know where else they could go everywhere is covered now. Mm-hmm. Well. Yeah, what what more can you do? We've done time. We've done space and this is beyond that as well Yeah Who did who just thought it that she hulk attorney at law Would be like she hulk as an entity is the most powerful Like agents in the marvel cinematic universe more powerful than it's going to be more powerful than kane could be or uh Or galactus or any of those guys She can escape the universe and rewrite the story so that she wins It's getting to my question any conflict that goes in the future that has any mild connection she got But I guess it's in the universe she hulk exists my answer We all why doesn't she hook just jump out of the universe and erase the bad thing now? She could and the real difficult part as well is that the moral implications will always hang over each of those times Like why didn't you escape the confines of the universe and rewrite things to be better for these people? Like in every possible turn At every answer they give is how they get a screw themselves over Be arbitrary because the answer will be oh, she could only do it once That's just you saying it like she had she could do whatever she wants as a character The context that she can break reality and literally affect real things in the universe And it's like well, no, we wouldn't do that for this story because that would be silly Well, guess what it was retarded when you did it the first time Oh, it's funny shad that you assume that it will even be it will just be ignored That's like I mean we saw what happened right with the like every time that the accords would have been awkward They were ignored until they didn't exist anymore Um, and it will probably be the same for this right it will be ignored It won't be recognized is like the most important part It won't be recognized that there was a problem here that there's this rooming question Yeah, there was a throw away a throw away line in she-hulk. I think it was Matt Murdock I said anything. Yeah, I said like this the sycovia chords are now, um discontinued have been repealed Yeah, that's the only reference we've had to them really and it's like oh, they just disappeared I remember had before before it came out the writers said that the show was going to address them That was the addressing of it. That was a meme addressing was they don't exist It's it's um, they do a little man It's not it's it's actually not fair like if you get given this much money And like all of this resources and seemingly like the ability to pull Characters some of whom well in fact like many of whom have existed in better stories that weren't created by you And you get all the opportunities to like leverage these things and this is what it was for That's not fair No justice in this world Oh, yeah, right. And then you got a show wong, uh breaking fucking breaking them out of prison again, Emil Yeah, um, I was gonna say it was funny listening to you say they broke space and time that they went beyond that I just feel like anybody who is unfamiliar with this stuff If you're like, what do you mean they went beyond breaking it for space and time you're like They found a way dude. What else you want me to say? Yeah Yeah, and so that's she Hulk it took fucking ages just like the rings of power to break this one down, uh All the basics getting it wrong for just like why would you even make this show? What is the point of it and they have it overtly explaining what this show is and they couldn't nail it in either department being law and comedy I guess yeah, it's neither funny nor a compelling legal show and like good god. They're awful a right and human beings Uh, just in general every every person's a cartoon every interaction. Yeah And the best part is is that gen is clearly a self-insert of the entire writing staff like that is Because the whole thing the whole thing is a personal power fantasy And that manifests in this last episode, but it's present throughout They're completely disappointed with all of their lives They overblow their accomplishments and the funny thing is they can't actually write what an Accomplished person has because they have no idea what it is like. They don't understand how much money she would be making We talked about that earlier They don't know what a successful life is all they know is she sits around all day in a shitty apartment drinking boxed wine until her friend comes over Who's somehow makes like is less successful than her but is more knowledge about her than any about anything on the planet Like they completely hate everything about themselves And when they get the opportunity to fix it all they don't fix anything that is the source of the problem And it's entirely self-empowerment. This is quintessentially self-insert and it oh The awfulness doesn't even I it goes so much further because she is incredibly Vane narcissistic But also like shallow where she is desperate to have a guy but has to be the most shallow good-looking guy She's not looking after anything deep who she will just bang if they offer her some chips Dr. Guy doesn't even have a name He's only ever referred to as the handsome dr. Man while also simultaneously condemning him for being vacuous I don't I don't The she's literally an example of the I'm uh, I'm the feminist and all the men but toxic masculinity things are bad While she is actually doing all those toxic things in reverse, you know She's objectifying men having the butt on the things looking for you know guys just based on looks and all that stuff getting into Quick relationships and and not caring about uh, she's awful on every level And it just shows the hypocrisy of so many of these ideologies, right? They're not actually after proper equality. They just want to do all the bad things that they Feel has been done to them Thank I would be fair to say that this is the most sexist thing I've seen in a while like the amount of hate and just That fuels this whole show is incredible It's a it's a it's quite a spiteful show. Yeah, it is. It oozes with it. It oozes with resent and entitlement and Insecurity, it's just Overflowing with that The best part is knowing that I hate this show and this character With everything in my soul every aspect of it drips with hatred for she-hulk And it pales in comparison to how much the writing women hate themselves Yeah, I think the thing is with uh When they used to hire, you know writers, you know real writers and it's more specifically male writers like guys would write characters like, you know What traits do I find admirable and people that I could put in this character or something? It traits I can find interest I find interesting and they used to like That's how you make a character that you like in this type of genre and then you hire Now they're hiring these female writers who can't write And it's they follow I think it's about culture that Women are we're raised a little differently I think we're more accustomed to writing characters who are just like us instead of just A character it's always it's Like we have to write someone who's well I'm not gonna write someone better than me because that's just that would lower my self-esteem So I'm gonna write someone who's exactly like me Yeah, they got if the if I'm shitty at writing law the person the character I write has to be shitty at law If I'm shitty it's like if I'm bad at something the character has to be bad at something But since I'm a narcissist they have to be Praised for being for how shitty they are Um, was that like I I'd sound like really not interested I guess in like comparison of like male or female writers and what they would tend to like right if we went by broad groups I just think like the writing in this show sucks Like in this particular case this show is just Well, I was gonna say Michael Waldron is still like Yeah, Michael Waldron is He is like the worst writer I think is he Is he did he write she-hock because no whenever there's like a a whole all female writing team They're the ones who make a big deal out of it like isn't this great that it's all female writing team And it should be like it just that shouldn't matter. It should be just really their writers Let's but they know I know it's it's better because they're all female And so if they're the ones who go there's like Well, you know what that's implying you've written a crap show You're the one who said it's distinctive because of the all female writing class Sorry writing crew What are you actually saying then if you're the one who was wanting to make the thing out of it? Those are i'm saying I just think Michael was responsible for Loki and Multi-verse madness And he's writing secret wars Isn't it women yeah Well, I think I think that like fundamentally the approach that is taken like in Marvel projects at the moment to write stories It's just not conducive to like consistently writing good stories Whatever Like whether it's I guess adverse objectives like narratively, you know versus like what kind of story like, you know Pursuing like telling a specific story with a thematic through lines versus like I guess, you know projecting or self-inserting or whatever or like The projects proceed the ideas for the stories. Nobody talks to each other There are like mandates for the things that need to happen in these stories. I mean even if you're like a really good writer I don't know how you survive the MCU. Unfortunately. It seems like at this point it is like sort of this um cavalcade of um People who just want to write their own story with very little regard for how well it's going to slot into this broader universe And maybe even no consideration for what people after them are going to have to try and deal with, you know Like if you want to come in and write a story now, how the fuck you're going to deal with all of this shit Like has been If you went up to them and said right So, you know the world you kind of created with falcon the winter soldier the tv show Is that in the same world as she-hulk with the whole fourth wall stuff? And then also the multiverse man is one where all the sorcerers are doing all kinds of things Of them all this is all the same thing, right? I could totally see the beard like so lost at this point They'd be like Yes And I think that they could give you a good answer which you know like this is your job And you got a lot of money for it like to not you know and I get the impression like yeah You can't it's like when you see in interviews where they say like oh, I think that's what happened or yeah I'm pretty sure it's like you're pretty sure You don't know you don't know for sure No writer god of that universe. You don't know the reason why that's so funny is like I'm asking if there's continuity between your sequels and it's like pretty sure there is I'm pretty sure there is but but who cares like you can it's it's like the fun thing with the Marvel Cinematic Universe is that you have a bunch of these crazy characters It's like well ideally the cool part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is that you're leveraging the advantage of long-form storytelling in a format that has more focused resources Like you get to do what television does but with way more money than television gets and now that You have like films and television best of both worlds, right? But nobody talks to each other And nobody cares and it's so lame because you got so much money like Yeah, all of this is just this tier of content. They could have been making so much more money They could be um they they really could be uh and I mean we've seen it right like the reception to face for has not been good and that is known because like face war was meant to continue past Black Panther 2 but they cut it off and now like there's this multiverse saga that even that's starting to like projects are getting delayed like blade isn't even like I don't even know if that's like if that's still coming out um like projects keep getting shifted back because it's like whatever whatever process you thought you had to make this work is not working and I think they realized that it's not working what kind of changes that would actually manifest in Who knows I don't really expect like the writing to improve Because I don't I think that there is writing is just not valued as much as it should be at the moment. I think that a lot of other aspects of like filmmaking are respected like cinematography acting like uh like yeah music composition um like a lot of the other aspects of it uh like there's recognized good and bad but like for some reason with writing it gets like a lot I don't know people just don't value it as much um this is the consequence of that attitude yeah they they will continue to write poorly just about different things than they would have well and of course like um it's maybe it's it's sustainable for a while but yeah I guess it remains somewhat sustainable if the if the way that these projects are responded to remains as it has been for a while which is everybody watches it and thinks it's great and then give them a couple months and they turn on it I guess this is kind of a turning point right because Thor is not received well as soon as it came out and of course She-Hulk as well has not been received well as it comes out I guess Black Panther 2 might be like sort of a litmus test for whether that's going to be a trend or if if like it was only going to occur this time around I don't know like um maybe it's just a matter of complacency right your marvel everybody will watch your marvel stuff if that's assumed there's not much pressure on you to be trying to do new things or be innovative in the way that the Marvel Cinematic Universe kind of used to be at least like conceptually you know Marvel Cinematic Universe was like a unique and original idea at the time it wasn't a sure thing but now that it is and it's just a consistent stream of content to be delivered for Disney plus like to make sure that people are constantly engaged talking about it on social media and like retained in that in that like network of content and you know it just continues yeah sorry don't have to apologize I don't really disagree with you and that's how I base apologies so uh yeah that's a She-Hulk unless there's anything else in closing people were to add to that because there's so much to say it's terrible it's horrible the destruction's complete and I'm getting well where does it sit if we were to try and figure out like in this particular phase where it's similar to Loki I would say yeah yeah I think the finale was probably the thing to push it in that direction for sure I think it's worse than Loki because there's just so much pointless episodes that are such crap that all right all right what's worse to absolutely not caring about something because it's so pointless or something that's really bad that enrages you um I guess the thing is it's like it's worth not underestimating how much damage Loki does to absolutely everything so we just covered right well no that's what I'm saying right that's fresh you know I think it's um I think it's not far with Loki it has to be if it kind of breaks the same thing and then I might feel any she-hulk because there's more things in it that are bad yeah I feel she hopes it'll be closed they fail execution so so much like just look at the CGI it is atrociously bad but it's like Loki was bad right but I was still watching it without thinking oh this is utterly like completely pointless and that's my my impression was she-hulk I was just like what is even the point of anything happening here I think I agree right like at the end of she-hulk what was achieved it's like I don't know really no the end the show didn't know and the biggest thing I think we could take away from it was the final message of the show and the main character contradicts it in her old journey so yes uh well I mean yeah right character theme plot and world is all pretty catastrophic in this show too yeah um I was not expecting it to be competitive with like Loki and multiverse and madness when it started at the very least right and at least Loki took it so seriously and ended up ruining everything I don't even think the show that no one to like the show isn't a serious show but they then crap on everything and ruin everything because they're not taking it seriously they don't care about the consequences of the implications oh also Loki had a classic Loki in it it did have uh yes Richard E Grant uh Loki well I mean I guess I guess then really it's because multiverse is like like right at the bottom I guess we're comparing to everything not just the shows yeah how do me how do you think uh She-Hulk compares to like multiverse like to me it's worse um I I'm so I'm gonna make I think multiverse matters has to be the the grim bottom of the barrel even with the breaches that we've had because he wrote it within its own universal rules to just have everything destroy itself with all the different things he said it's so I have a video that tries to explain just how poorly written that film is it blows my mind it's so bad so it's gonna be hard to be convinced that anything is worse the multiverse about us at this point are we saying that so She-Hulk is a one out of ten pretty much you say yeah I think I think after that finale hits basically yeah yeah make sure that I think the finale really lowers the one out of ten finale was the thing that kind of ruined everything kind of like it was she like it's a show where nothing works in it and it has errors that are that grievous I guess in terms of uh but how do people feel about it I guess when it comes to just their emotional response to it oh where would it steer by that metric well now if I still don't think I was made as angry by watching She-Hulk as I was with Falcon the Winter Soldier I'm curious if anything has made me as angry as Falcon the Winter Soldier did it's really pissed me off the Winter Soldier yeah it might be because my investment in the MCU was still you know intact it's somewhat intact yeah at that point that was before that was before uh Loki and Black Widow would come out right we only had one division as a yes as if it's still wonky but still you know well you know interestingly I wonder if it's affecting my uh scale because look look the Marvel's m sorry the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been right almost dead for me for a while because of how bad they were about so much things and but there were still some properties that I thought maybe there's a slight hope it could might not be awful right She-Hulk like I felt that I could have had potential yeah it could have had potential and it's destroyed it now it is like this has killed the MCU for me in such a complete way like what kind of forever coming out I could not care less like I really don't want to watch that film the MCU is dead Guardians and whatever happens with Spider-Man we'll see um yeah and who knows what happens because like I have no hope for Blade that's not happening not anymore I can only hope that it's funny well I mean yeah you look to the future right it's like Black Panther 2 it's like well it's going to introduce an underwater kingdom that was there the whole time and didn't get involved in anything that's going to be a tough one to we're finishing phase four with this movie it's so weird it is bizarre because it wasn't the plan originally um like Fantastic Four was meant to be part of this phase now it's in phase six you know like something's something's gone awry and I guess yeah like looking towards I mean for me I'll probably like dead over I guess I wonder what's going to happen but I'm not optimistic it's gonna be so weird when we're like which do you think was better phase 13 or 17 yeah no I have no hope for the X-Men coming in I don't know when they'll come in either wow that's a wild one I mean I did pull three I well I will have some level of investment in that naturally but I'm scared it's on live support where it's on like like they managed to just get a slight heartbeat by bringing back Hugh Jacklin but it's like yeah it's funny because the empty was out now right a big weight that tied low Logan was the it was the last before was the both of legacy characters from the great actors that it's just like not really though and I know that everybody's different different universe baby it's like nobody knew what the fucking universe was in Fox anyway it was much more of a better comment and here it's going to be even more confusing but I mean that's kind of shows like the nature of uh I mean DC well I guess we don't know yet until what we see like next year but like Marvel is very much now in the era of milking nostalgia for stuff they didn't even like Marvel Studios weren't even involved in um like and other universes that have nothing to do with them it's kind of it's kind of fascinating isn't it yeah I'm sad don't be you uh shadow you check it out we'll come to forever you're gonna go see it who me yeah review it for night's watch I see him I don't want to but I I will just for the sake of the review and also to talk about anyone else who's reviewing it and just it's a job now for in that regard and uh oh man yeah so I know that feel well I feel like that about does it I think so I don't know if I could take any more like you're at my limit my brain is at its limit it needs to rest so uh eFap is a legendarily long show uh yeah well and you guys take uh you guys go through some you know like hour and a half two hour movies two and a half hour movies and it could take 12 hours sometimes it's three episodes of She-Hulk and it and you just there's just not much to say it's just not interesting now that we've said everything so also uh the show the episodes are very short on She-Hulk they're like what 20 minutes yeah they're kind of 20 minutes Kyle the intro is and love and you know nothing they're still empty I mean episode seven was empty as fuck but I think when they literally climbed out of their own universe there was something to talk about god I hate it yeah um I can't summarize it more than I just fucking hate this show yeah I think from here since we're nearing seven hours gonna have to say that we'll uh we'll have to sort out once again we also saw the super chats out me uh rags and free in some form of a catch-up which those are still releasing and coming out it's just obviously if you're a fan of eFap right now you've been you've been running out of time to be able to watch all this stuff we just been firing a lot of coverage guys the scorn the scorn eFap just came out there it's over there if you want to go see it we just break down the scorn uh meanwhile I'm trying to get all the catch-ups out and record them and me rags Fringy and many others including possibly people here recorded our Halloween arc for next year already that was um that's right that was a bit old bit of fun you guys can speculate on what franchise that may be I feel like that's more fun than telling you and then but you know give it a few months I probably will just accidentally say it you know it's a it's a horror franchise for sure and I say this as if you got knock up the hype of the fourth final destination movie coming out a week from now or a week from yesterday um by the way final destination three that was so close I got it out just in time and four was still giving me some trouble as well as I'm trying to let me go some suggestions here scary movie freddy halloween resident medieval I think you might have made a mistake there parana double d you gave it away that was the one resident medieval damn it what there's no or medieval the video game with the skeleton man hmm ah yes the trinity of winches oh god that's a good reference I like it piranha double d the greatest horror movie of all time I think I feel like I'm pretty sure rags mentioned that so at some stage it's so good it was there's like there's piranha python anaconda there's probably like mech versions of get shocked now but see piranha piranha double d was was pure 72 minutes and it knew exactly what it was and it was fantastic it was so much fun to watch um so yeah what I want to stop doing is giving a big old spotlight for a moment on our our guests for the day so we'll go one by one and we'll start with why not mr rikita law mr lawyer mr eyehoney watch shows to hate on them who who exactly forced you to watch g-hawk why did you do it if you hate it so much asshole you who's you learn from watching you know despite all of the intense suffering of sitting there watching this show it is actually a lot of fun to talk to you guys about it and to tell people just how fucking terrible it was um but yeah uh i'm rikita law recently banned and unbanned from youtube and i finally just got off my suspension yesterday so i can actually post content now i'm really happy about that i imagine your fans are ecstatic about you come back but you've got a backup plans right in case this is the happen yeah um well your streams are taking off on rumble like holy crap dude that's actually what i was gonna say i mean it's not really a backup plan anymore it's the it's the real plan youtube is not going to be my streaming platform i've been streaming to five digit streams rather frequently on rumble and plan to make that bigger so um you want to follow me you can the best place to do it though it's rikitalaw.locals.com and then that's where i announce every stream and guest appearance and everything and i have a 24 seven live chat going where the community can hang out but they also can talk about whatever uh whatever i'm participating in because i'm the most most important thing of course but uh yeah uh so you can also you can of course follow me on youtube i will still be posting content on there but my live streams are on rumble and ozzy and uh it's a blast we have a ton of fun wow um yeah and uh i was gonna say like you've been a riot avenue on we i still regret how long it took us to get you on but i'm very glad we brought you on something lore related we got plenty of low insight from you as well as just i i yeah that was really great to get company good stuff thank you one one more thing i do have to give a shout out of course to my companion in pain and suffering uh the real lady rackets my wife suffered through every episode of this with me you can tell her i said sorry about that if you want the chat right now so she's been watching and listening but uh yeah so she she sat there uh her my favorite line she said was watching the show makes me embarrassed to be a woman yeah i'm sorry i'm half of all women this show made me proud to be a misogynist yeah the the opposite effect it has solidified my position uh for anybody who wants to check her out too she is just starting a youtube channel and she's doing really well she's got 11 000 subscribers it's the real lady rackets on youtube so uh completely different content from mine but uh i like the heck out of her so go give me a check uh j long bone always wonderful to have you here as part of our little selection you we're obviously here to defend she hope i think you did a decent job of it but i'm gonna say we weren't very convinced um so people can find you on your channel to making reviews that are very positive about it right that's what you're up to right oh yeah yeah i um i want to marry this show it's so fabulous um i think the big thing that people need to know about if we haven't told them already the jotherm high readings are all completed right you released the last one yeah finally again are you gonna make like a super cut of them all together or are you just gonna let people figure that out with the parts now some humans are just not capable as we've seen from this show now we're gonna make a full version it's gonna be like over two hours because which is a shit ton of editing yeah usually uh most of them are like 20 minutes but uh the last two are like four one is 40 minutes and one is over 30 so yeah it's gonna be about two hours it's gonna be a pill i don't think it's gonna be that hard to really edit because i'm just gonna connect them and make sure they're make sure it's cohesive that's about it but yeah that's out uh i still have more she-hulk reactions to release because i did i did a one through four and then the finale made me stop and just do a video on that because it was so horrible yeah but i still have yeah i still have five uh five seven uh five seven and eight coming out six i'm gonna kind of do like a quick summary of an episode seven because i don't really get that episode was nothing to me uh you know i've got that and i might i might have a better uh like a like a actual review she-hulk that might work on uh my thoughts will be a lot well better thought out than it were that they were today oh it was yeah it's the way it works with videos but um yeah yeah it'd be interesting to see and of course more collaborations both on our end on your end for up to right movies being watched reviews reactions whatnot plenty to be excited about world of the internet especially if they bring up more shows like that yeah that's inevitable um all right even uh nuts uh hey cool to have you back to talk about these awesome things that are happening with the world what are you uh what are you up to what you what's what's going on your channel watch people subscribe so much for talking oh my god ever since she-hulk walked out of that writing room my brain was like i'm awake but my brain is gone um anyway so that summarized the channel what anyway uh sometimes i get drunk i get bored i spit out a verbal diarrhea onto a page and then somehow by the time i sober up the video is up on my youtube channel so if you want to see it see stuff i guess you can check my channel out i guess what's your latest video what's it about um my latest video well i'm working on a video that is gonna probably come out next week that i don't even have a name for so it's you know let's i don't even think about videos until they're like uploading oh yeah the names of the hardest part the names of the thumbnails difficult oh yeah well um it's pretty vague so i don't think i can describe it so let's leave it as a mystery it's gonna be up next week basically and i'm going to make a video about i've made a video about feminist hollywood before and i'm probably gonna make uh the second one the next month i'm planning to and she-hulk is gonna be featured definitely oh wow it's in the spot hey yeah well yeah um the links for all those channels are in the description you should pull out uh mr shader versi how you doing there i'm good mate how are you guys it's just funny because i'll be like give it a few hours i'll be back again review at a different tv show we shared hopefully we'll be as upset this time yeah we'll be hanging out talking about uh house of the dragon oh i'm looking forward to it we've done it now rings and she-hulk are done the dead they're buried yes um hey guys guys check it out get a look have a look at how the graphic novel is going we have we're up to 362 000 on this one wow that's great british panels good god that wow that's that's that's how phenomenal is that right hell yeah that's that's that's the us amount um so it looks really nice when it's converted into the australian dollary news um but now i'm i mean it has made me so friggin excited uh with the success of this one volume two is going to be so big and insane and like awesome awesome right uh i don't have to hold back anything uh and of course enemy self is great but now with the volume two we can do bigger it's gonna have like we can dedicate full page spreads and things not only that i've got new projects that i'm working on to develop in graphic novel format as well i i did like a five hour stream on night's watch breaking down my plan of attack on making a new star wars essentially and the excitement that that has gained is really surprised me people are really on board with that and now i'm just wondering all right let's see where where we can push this um graphic novel to i think we might be able to hit 400 k uh and that's just crazy so everyone grab a copy if you haven't already uh seriously this is better than what marvel and dc are making it's got better art better coloring i think i'm a little biased when i say i think the story is not bad uh but uh there's a lot of a lot of reviews that kind of confirm that and so it's a great entry point for the story and even if you have got the book then graphic novels are awesome like the visual aspect is so great it's another way to enjoy it so do grab it if you haven't already and we can really really push this thing far which is just awesome man oh yeah i've already got you linked up in the discord oh legend as well just congratulations man job thanks big accomplishment yeah very cool i'm excited like i said all all the profits i'm like i'm blessed enough that you know um my life is covered i don't need to live off of the money that's made on this so i'm reinvesting all of it i'm just going to be using it to make more content good content because i think there is a way for us to push back against this crap and that's by making our own independent media that is better than what this sludge disney is making and and the mainstream and so begins here yeah and uh who knows what you'll be generating in the future then just from those ideas expecting a whole shad universe perhaps that's what i what my full intent is to expand this right so the space opera uh that's kind of based on star wars my intention after i get those graphic novels out is to expand it get other writers on board to write their own stories in this universe and just expand it outwards i'm going to use the graphic novels that i um oversee as the primary kind of core story and after they're done i'm going to be trying to find studios and see about the possibility of turning them into film i i'm i'm committed i want to really go all the way with this stuff so oh yeah it's awesome well hey i heard you guys referring to it as the iron age so you'll be curious that's that's the tag i wonder what'll be happening when we hit the golden age who knows it knows that i seriously the thing is though right the they're the market is still there the people who love comic books are still there they haven't been buying marvel and dc because they've been making utter crap and the success of like this graphic novel then you see eric july and all these other people making great comic books and stuff uh it's eric july with the ripper verse shows that people are still hungry for this medium they love comic books still they just want good stuff and when they're offered it look at the success of it it's amazing and so yeah because you dc marvel it's you ripper uh clownfish right um clownfish have made their own book um and then razor fist has his kind of pulp novel which is doing really really well then of course you got uh will jordan uh um critical jink any guys have you seen his Kickstarter like holy crap dude it blew up we'll do an open bar went from like 3k to 300 k also it's stupid but again it shows you how hungry people are for good content still and how willing they are to back it like the market is there and so it's just waiting for people to offer them what they want and it's like we can do it let's do it the fans are ready uh disney has primed them like they've gone right yes um yeah and as for your channel you got your main channel still talking about swords armor and that and then you got your night's watch which to be fair at this point is uh i wouldn't hope i'm not hoping to insult but it's similar to evap right we got a little bit i like i focused deep dive reviews and breakdowns very much in kind of the spirit of evap um and so you'll find generally more longer form content on night's watch and one of the things that i love about night's watch and this is my intent in going into it it wasn't going to be like shatter versity number two no this is a dedicated channel that i'm devoting as much time into shatter versity my main channels uh and its growth has been great the um uh the fan base has been growing there and it's its own kind of fan base and i haven't been at shatter versity i put out this uh really fun video on the medieval war wagon just the other day and uh and i don't know how but anyway i'm managing the content still flowing so no it's just brain use and like i said links all available uh rags free was there anything you guys wanted to mention i already know the answer technically but i was just gonna prompt you for it instead rags um two things one as i've said i do have a plushy campaign that is out i'd love for you guys to take a look at it it should be the top link in the description and uh thunder has been very kindly putting it in the chat during uh this episode but please go over there take a look they did a really great job with it seriously that's one of the best plushies i've seen rags they do great that is awesome man they um it took a little bit to get mine done but i think it really shows it's distinctly different enough from the first one and it's enough to be its own thing like the the posing and everything and they just do a really really good job and of course smaller and fringies plushes uh their campaign is over so those will get shipped out uh i'm almost to be soonish pretty soon yeah you know it's pretty soonish but of course and with mine it helps us a great deal for you guys to pick those up i appreciate every single one and you know just take a look about take a look at it think about it i think there's a about two weeks left on the campaign yeah it is gone after that is done it is out of here and it will never return uh the second thing is that uh after this i'm sleeping because i'm tired but the plan is to tomorrow and if not tomorrow monday because i want to kind of hit around the noonish to twoish sort of sort of e-fap-ish uh uh time i will have a video out on the rags channel it's looking to be two and a half hours it's pretty much finished i got the copyright cleared on it as far as i know you know tizmy though could those can be but it should be finished so look for it either tomorrow or um on the monday all right and then hopefully another one shortly after that so i uh yeah that's what i've got going on that's the haps um what about you ring uh i don't have anything right now i'm just working away on the next big work projects um yep yeah and then as for myself you can catch me tomorrow with gary and well i'm free i think uh yeah we're gonna be talking about the finale for house the dragon and uh this plans to do a season coverage of sorts next week on e-fap for house the dragon but we thought you know i'm so i'm just worried i'm so i hope they don't screw this up like the ending of last episode has made me worried guys it started kind of okay so i'm glad there's a show that i look forwards to watching yes um as for dad of boy people wondering what i'm going to stream more of that um i was going to yesterday and then i had an opportunity to go see black adam but i was like oh yeah i guess i could that i ended up back it out with people a little longer than i expected and that feel wasn't painful i was like okay you know i'll probably check it out in the next couple days so uh you might see coverage for that at some point too unclear right now i mean at the very least i'll probably discuss casually on like uh real bbc or whatever which you can expect on tuesday but um yeah and we are we are just crazy far ahead on e-fap episodes right now if anyone keeps track of the rate that we're supposed to be putting these out we just had so many topics so many things to do um and of course the e-fap movies are still pumping out too it's just it's been a hectic past month and a half maybe two uh free faps we're trying to get everything in order and we shall so don't worry about it um but that yes it's kind of cool we managed to get all the rings of power covered all of she helped covered we've even thrown in some extra bits here and there for those who didn't know like i said the scorn e-fap is out there it's uh me metal and rags talking about completing the game and what we thought of it yes yeah um we scored is really interested me and so i didn't even know you guys covered that i'm totally gonna be honest with you please don't spend your money and just listen to that podcast yes do not spend your money like i'm not kidding when i say that the game can be completed sooner than our e-fap about it yeah really and it is a three-hour e-fap so yes people would say it like short about bad there's a lot it's shorter than the actual thing and i was like i don't think they caught the fact that you could beat this gave it like an hour if you really wanted to the foul you're using uh i think shiroku is a guy's name we're playing his long play of it his long play was like two hours and 47 minutes for the whole thing yeah which that's not a speed run that's playing the game yeah um but if you have i will say shad if you have game pass it is on game pass if you're just oh hey okay curious to play it which you shouldn't be but i would i don't blame you well i it's funny i wasn't interested in playing but what interests me about it was actually the visual uh style that they did with it i found that really intriguing definitely a very good visuals very interesting that is certainly something that it has is it have a good story to justify it or don't spoil it don't spoil it for me all right all right i'll watch i'll watch your coverage yeah i'd be curious to know what your thoughts on the story are as we explain it to you in the stream because we make sure to do it piece by piece you can understand it perfectly anyway uh yeah so obviously thank you all so much for joining us uh kastaru like said links all in description for these guys the channels fully recommend check them out you'll you'll laugh you'll cry you'll experience uh well thank you all for joining us um and thank you chat for your generous donations of which shall be accounted for everything will be i'm saving it all don't worry and we get sessions and of course you're very interesting interactions and keeping this company gated so until next time and i say that because i genuinely don't know if it's going to be in the form of possibly a mini getting released or the final destination the final destination that's the next one we're covering and all the covids are like wow they thought the third one was the worst it's like yes don't worry we're about to watch the one you guys will get some laughs with that one yeah and then you'll see us again on saturday moment likely for an update on whatever the hell else is happening because in a week's time we'll probably figure some more of it out but anyway thank you all so much have yourselves a fine evening we shall see you next time yeah goodbye everyone thanks for being here