 What they gon' do with me now, I'm still a talk of the town I'm gonna assist us, I'm hoakin' them down Reachin' the smiles in the frown Alright, what's up y'all, we're on a new episode of To- On Talk of the Town And we have a very drunk guest What's up, man? Nigga, straight up in back, we'll with it Alright Let's warm up, let's get a little icebreaker goin' for the people Alright, first icebreaker First icebreaker I'm gonna ask you a question, answer it as fast as you could First thing, come on, what's your favorite liquor brand? Cosm... liquor Couldn't even say it Alright One word to explain woo Woo That's the answer? That's it Okay Celebrity crush? All of them bitches I like, if they dog skin, I'll like them If they got the farts, I'll like them If they a thot, I'll love them Matter of fact, my talk too I like, if I need a regular joint, she good toxic too She said she toxic, I like toxic bitches I like Cali Cali? Okay But then if I need a Trish, Sukihana Man, I like her Wow If I need a Trish, Sukihana Wow, set a Sukih Alright, worst song ever Oh, these niggas shizzy, I niggas dirt Can we like, get a name? Mom Odeon? Oh, Odeon? Too much? Let me think about it If you would not like that no more, then take a shot Oh, shit You don't go viral So you skip in it? Answer? Nah Oh, you gonna answer it? You gonna take a shot? And answer? Fuck it, we gonna go crazy Worst song ever Where he gotta be from? Well, I'm not saying anything I'm just asking the worst song It could be a famous person It could be a nobody It could be a Nah, we gonna skip I ain't gonna violate nobody Y'all niggas all try That's nice, I guess Okay, last song you listen to? Last song I listen to? Yeah Last two songs No, matter of fact What's the name of this song? Oh, I will wait for you by My fucking future Future and Drake Drake But before that, I was listening to Cash Cobain What's the name of that song? Boy Huh? What song? I fuck a boy What's the name of that shit? I think they all sound like that, matter of fact Oh, my gosh And then they got another niggas I think Waheem Waheem? Yeah, Waheem Oh, my gosh Shout out to Waheem, my fucking ass Okay, so whatever Cash Cobain Waheem song you're talking about Nah, Waheem is by himself Oh, Waheem Dolly? Okay, alright Shout out to them Like that You getting told the new people I got to see what they talking about A lot of niggas ain't talking about shit But you know Alright, let's go Too much is never enough of Dada Drake Okay You are most lazy about Getting to love these thoughts What? Getting to know these bitches I'm got time for that shit I'm getting money out of here Oh, okay I'm got time for that You see those licumbre Okay One sentence for your ex Stop fucking calling me One sentence for your apps Stop fucking calling me Apps too? Wait, they want a feature or something Okay Okay One word to describe Your stuff right now Lay Okay You don't see I'm drinking the fucking costume Last thing you spent money on? Lekka Okay, we see Okay, what award Should Costa Mato be now made For this year from Talk of the Town Mr. Hem I think we need to make a category called Mr. Hem And I think I need to be that nigga But you know Time gonna come Best rapper to come home from jail Best come home appearance matter of fact Best come home appearance? Yeah, cause a lot of niggas came from jail Where he's been locked up and they don't know how to do no drills Or he thinks he's locked up Alright, so who else in that category? Oh, I don't know Man, I just came home You gotta tell me I don't know I know nobody did better than me Yeah, first day home Rolling on stage Lay So what happened? Got locked up again What what Out and went back in Wow, okay Shit got lit, but you know I did nothing, I was innocent So you clearly like jail Nah, hell no, I hate that shit So how the fuck you get back in your first day out Shit got back in Alright, so fuck the bad stuff How did you get to the rolling on stage? What happened? Niggas told me When I was in jail That they can't come get me Because rolling on loud is the day A mother fucking I come home So I said What? Send the sprint up Let me drive that shit And we gonna get back They ain't let me drive up there like you out So it's operation Get caught by the mother fucking rolling on loud Just some secret shit Nobody knew I was coming home When I was on some super secret shit And I was like Fucking let's do this shit The honey looker just bit you It's alright I got you Okay So you went back on stage Was people hanging out That was a really good look for Brooklyn Like if you from Brooklyn Like that was a real like meaningful like moment The dap It was the dap So like So people hanging out Like how you felt about that like I felt good I ain't gonna lie I walked on stage Mother fucker just looking on stage like Yeah I escaped I'm outside No I escaped it's not funny So was you in 5 years speaking when you was in jail? Yeah we spoke time to time and shit But I said you know people be worried like When they locked up The energy not gonna be the same When they get out About what? You know like Your mans was going up Let's say you come home Might be in a different spot Different place Yeah cause that's cause niggas go to jail And get weird And gain these feelings and shit You don't want to send me no money Then you go make some money Take somebody's shit Get on hot Gotta be on hot you know I don't know I'm sorry So Okay so the music I mean so On stage rollout Where is the music though? It's getting done This fucking sample mania that's going on I don't get nothing but sample beats Am I fucking Are you not fucking with it? I'm fucking with it Cause I'm gonna sound to Yeah The label They're not Nothing go to Cause they got sued already So They're not putting that in there So I'm working on mad clearances Okay So you just did mad sample beats Yeah but the ones that I got that's not sample Is like I don't want to put that out first I got some guys Well you're like waiting Like you got all year long It's heat Don't worry about it You know People wait for summer People wait for summer All year right It's the best time of the year It's been shit hot I'm summer You're the summer Well we're gonna get a song before the summer right Y'all gonna get a song before Thanksgiving Okay Okay that's a good one Do we have a name? Let it a T dot Okay Actually you know what's crazy nobody That's how even did that yet Yeah I know Are you surprised No Gino and Bino did some type They did a tribute They did a tribute It wasn't called Let it a T That was something else But yeah besides them No one else did When are you surprised Yeah I mean I don't know man You know we on our own town You know So Niggas I oughta look at it Like it was fake anyway We don't even fuck with you We fuck with ourselves Okay So long as it's from meaningful people Yeah you don't need to be Faking it Okay I mean for the most part though It was more genuine I feel like love With T dot I hope so I didn't get to see it I mean what you heard about it right Nah So how did you I tried not to hate about nothing that was going on out there Because Because when you in jail you just want to like Lock all the outside of Okay But I heard about it through the text And everybody was like oh Hold your head bro And I'm like What the fuck are y'all talking about And then I kept going Kept going Kept going And I saw it and somebody was like Yo T dot dot And I Bust my head So in jail you found out So how was you feeling How was I feeling Yeah Like what was going through your mind at the time Don't come home and kill anybody But then I had to think about it And say you know I gotta chill out But my mom I definitely was on hearts My whole shit was fucked up That was my little man That was my best friend You feel me Like for real for real You know I'm with him I was with him every day Yeah You feel me Y'all both had signed together Y'all was working on the project no Yeah I just was thinking this morning Is it done Was it even this morning I think I was thinking this shit About Two hours ago I'm about to just say fuck that And give you all that tape tomorrow Like I'ma see if I can Don't do that to the fans Don't amp them up No for real Like I really want to just drop that Like right now Like But I gotta find all the songs Cause I'm locked out of my iCloud So Nigga bullshit Nigga bout the gas Nah The label got it So I could get it from them Yeah I know y'all turned it in Cause y'all was rolling out Like what was going up Yeah So I think I'm about to just drop that Just to give it up You know I mean We definitely would want to see You know Tee that always Loves music And was talking about music We never even seen him Get to go super crazy yet Nah He was going crazy That's crazy boy Like he He wasn't even really like He'd be in the studio And I'd be like Bro you gotta do You gotta do it better than that He'd be like bro I'm not no rapper bro Like Hold on to him rapping Nah he's funny But he was that rapping He was going viral He ain't going off So like what's one of your I guess one of your best memories With Tee Doc Wanna share one Fucking Hanging out The fucking window On the West Side Highway When like bull came on the radio I think we hung down The whole fucking highway And then we stopped I think he was drunk On story And snapped For a good two days Oh yeah that's what we do though We ain't never was sober I don't think The nigga came in the car Everyday Ten o'clock in the morning Like With a bottle Tee Doc Ready With a bottle Everyday He always talk about the time When y'all went to the party Oh y'all was with Y'all had on the suit to come He went And he was walking for somebody He told us last time Oh oh oh The Grimmys And he was walking Michael Rubin Something like that But he always talk about that time Yeah So everybody's like Dancing now Yeah bro And it's like I can't do those dances I would break my fucking leg It's so crazy Like That nigga not being here Like I really gotta like Like I was I was like Who the fuck is in the dance in the video Like Gotta just get a bunch of treatises At this point A bunch of treatises Got it Got it because Like I'm gonna be looking at A certain nigga and be like Tee Doc woulda danced better than that So It's like I just I don't know So do you feel like It's the Brock's dance Like all the dances is crazy Even from the Philly Blicking to the Y'all want to learn how to Talks Begin Watching it And I'm just like Alright y'all why Like I kinda like Zesty with the situation But it look alright Like Feel me like I wanna know how to Feel me like But my hips So fucking break us some shit If I tried that shit Look who's be going crazy I ain't gonna lie Yeah That they be doing the game right Yeah he be getting sturdy I mean I don't know What exactly Who me You feel me like Yeah so it was beef Cause it was like Philly made up And I was like nanotresi made up The whole blicking thing But Oh that's what it's called Blicking Yeah That's crazy you wouldn't do that right No I didn't know that at all So you definitely Not gonna do the dance I'm blicking I gotta learn So now you want to learn Cause of the name Nah I was going Blick regardless I just wanted to know how to do it So you feel me like I got a little treacher in the crib I could turn the music on You feel me I'm definitely not gonna be In the video like Exactly blicking the video Nah this is the most I know how to do so far So Okay But Would you try to fuck with like One of those type beats though Hell yeah Casco B make them beats right Casco This kid This kid emcee vert It's like man like Little Philly Oh Casco B Philly No I'm saying like I don't know everybody Just been telling me like Yo boy you need to fuck with the Casco B And I'm like Alright what's up Are you connected with him yet? Looking for the nigga Gotta fuck He ducking Nah I don't know if he ducking I don't know if he ducking I don't want to say he ducking Somebody gonna take this And turn it into some hoes Okay I'm looking for the nigga though But you're definitely interested in collabing Yeah Okay So come to home Hold bunch of new music Hold bunch of new sounds Hold bunch of new apps Okay How'd you get new apps If you wasn't even That's what I said I'm gonna You fuck you got new apps For real I'm gonna keep it told you I'm just being hot Right I don't gotta be for nobody Right I don't want problems with nobody Like I can have that shit But that shit is out I'm just trying to get some money And get right You know what I'm saying But I hold bunch of new It's a lot of new Everything Let's say new gangsters Let's say that You know what I'm trying to say Don't do that It's a lot of It's a lot of new niggas though Like I'll fuck Let me tell you New niggas I'll fuck with the 41 niggas Out of all of them Like I'll be around them You feel me And it's like I jack y'all energy You feel me Like They remind me of me Like they on hots Like I like it They very much remind me of me But I just Like I was with the Tata I knicked it And I told him I gave him advice Like you're a bro Like you're gonna rap Rap You feel me Like I'll be trying to Be outside And still spinning And watch what you're saying And these raps too Like this shit Could come crashing down fast You feel me And he was like Fuck the state The feds come They do whatever they want to do Or like So I was not like I'm just Just amping on the bullshit You feel me Like I'm giving these niggas Private advice And shit like that Like you feel me Like most sturdy You know what I'm saying Cause I'll be mad Cause I know they About to go up A whole lot of niggas About to go up I'll be mad If niggas Shit Happen to me Happen to them Like they snatched me I was gonna Right up You feel me I mean I don't really I don't Be into the whole shit No Cause what I'm on now I ain't really Be at the too much disson I might start disson Back soon too But that's another topic But I ain't really With too much disson So I ain't really paying Attention But from what I was told Some up there first You feel me Of course So if you up there first And niggas Say something back Then niggas Say something back Alright but You know They doing kinda What you kinda Was doing back in the day Yeah And that's why I can't be mad at them You feel me I just give them good advice You feel me Okay So Do you ever feel responsible For some of the new shit That's going on right now Yeah Okay I be mad When people be like I'm not Like So who the fuck is Like So you like Own that Like take pride in that Like niggas know that Not take pride in that But it's like Earlier What's the fuck What's that man You told me don't say But I don't give a fuck Who the fuck So I just watched the interview Earlier And niggas like Niggas out here Taking fucking credit For everything Like Like bro No Bro He was doing a lot of shit What's taking credit for it I don't know the niggas name I ain't gonna be Too on hots But I just watched The interview and it's like Taking credit as well Like not mentioned Like Brooklyn drill Or just like Yeah Like niggas just trying So Do you think that they're just Not giving flowers Or you think they don't know The history I think it's both Some of these things Just young and dumb Alright Alright So Let's give a little history Lastly Like what For the people that's New to drill What is drill to you Talking about what's going on Outside Okay If Yeah outside is Outside Real outside If there's shit going on In your neighborhood That's basically what we doing Talking about what's going on Okay And if you have to name I guess six iconic people In drill from New York I can't see New York All the icons gotta be Except for K-Flox No I wanna do only New York Because you know The whole K-Flox is from New York Yeah But I'm saying You can't name Six drill people That you should know From New York Or six drill Iconic people From New York Okay, so name them Um Pop Smoke Yeah Fabio Okay Sleepy Okay Chef Okay What number am I Fabio Pop Sleepy chef That's four Two more Um I'll give the Bronx Motherfucking K-Flox K-Flox Costum model That's it That's your six That's six You gotta know us Okay You know me I'm definitely not Mentioning anybody else Like That's what I was going to say So I mean Would you like an obelisk? I would like At least one op Niggas ain't my ops They just people I live over there Okay, so Um Do they not Deserve flowers For contributing to the church? Have we given up They got enough flowers We could give Wait We could give Um Alright I'm not gonna be a hater If this what we doing Then we gonna go Um Two two G's Yeah that's it We gonna leave it at that Okay The reason I ask that Is because I feel like in New York We tend to not Give people they flowers Yeah I'll give it to son I'll give it to son Because of this And it's the only reason Uh Suburban is a big Big track I mean No suburban Is a big track In the motherfucking Uh Drill movement No suburban When the guy made If he wouldn't have made suburban So that's why That's why I give him that No You give him that Basically because he started The controversy Yeah you Yeah I'm not I'm not saying it like that I'm just saying You made something You made something For niggas to go Okay And then Uh huh And then yeah Went up after that Okay So and then after that There's a lot of good Sugar going on Well congratulations I wanted to see If you was growing I'm grown baby Like you know New York We don't tend to get People there flowers Nah I give credit I give credit To where it's due You know what I mean And um I was gonna ask Do you feel like You got all your flowers Coming back out now And you know I don't know Like you miss this one I'm missing my flowers You are I don't want no flowers If you ain't gonna Get them But I'm saying Like who do you feel like Should be like At least showing love Saying shout Something If you had to name Someone Or If the police Asked me a name In the prison I mean When they locked me up I think you need to Give them my flowers I'm gonna leave it at that Okay And then That's half of these niggas And I did what I'm Doing right now Music No look A straight face Okay Okay Okay Okay Okay Okay Okay So um So just name two people You say you feel like You feel like you could Get more flowers How do you feel about Drill overall right now It's in a good space In a good space It's in a good space Money wars It's not hard to get signed Right now Um Cause You feel like it was Hard to get signed back then Hell yeah Why though Because ain't nobody Believing us Like This shit took a long time For niggas Like You was there So you know Like It was times where It was like But we had more views Than the fucking OGs of New York Like And motherfuckers was just Acting like The shit we doing wasn't going Happening like And then when When they finally Started paying attention It was like Alright You guys don't even Know how to Wrap on these beats Like this shit Not going right You know So Um I'm trying to think What would you say Like was opening Some of those doors You know to get For these youngers To start getting money The younger artists OGs Like I'm not giving Nobody that Like nobody Opening the door Like pop smoke Opening the door for everybody Pop smoke But I mean Shuffling them too Kind of they got to deal No no no Deal wars Yeah Deal wars Like Like to make this shit A big deal You can't give it To nobody But pop Went crazy Right And then He opened doors For other artists To For them to go Okay this shit is sellable Because pop Made it where it was like At first The shit we was Just on Was heavy I'm going to kill you You know what I mean Pop Put it on some I'm going to kill you I'm going to Fuck you bitch I'm going to Make her love me And I'm going to Make her say Boo You know what I mean Once Once that sauce came into Because it's like We all were sharing sauce So it's like Once that sauce came in They were like Oh so the label Start looking Like oh this shit is sellable If they market it in some way You know what I mean And then they started Looking more into it And then Like oh this shit is sellable period You know what I mean And they started coming And grabbing I'll give it to pop You know what I mean I mean Fabi is definitely In there Fabi Pop chef All of them But I feel like Because you got to remember He was the last one If you really remember it Like he was the last one To start rapping You know what I mean Yeah And then So when he threw that sauce And then the shit started working And they were like Alright this is what we doing So I mean Yeah now he definitely Was the last one So do you have any regrets From back in the day Yeah I was supposed to do a song Pop and I ain't do it Oh my That one That's a regret The only other regret I got than that Is Because Of what's going on now I'm mad I stopped this in niggas You said you're mad You stopped this in niggas Yeah cause everybody Signed right now Over this in niggas It was like remember Even you told me like Yo you got to stop Like I said you have to Be more versatile They not versatile No more They just This in niggas Get on Like So I was like I might as well Like kept going Until somebody paid attention I still feel like It's not really a regret though It's not really a change For you feel me So it was like Damn maybe if I had Kept doing it though Like maybe they Kept it But All in all let's keep this That Our drill Versus the drill right now Did not really make you Wanna dance It was very much Let's go killing it How Got T-Dot If the song Don't make him Dance T-Dot was Dropping it T-Dot was Dancing probably Like what Two years ago I wanna say See that was dancing Probably He was in Yeah But even Like yeah We walk was like Our only dance though Yeah We wasn't dancing Yeah Who made that That's I don't know But I feel like The drill music now Is very much Makes you Wanna get up and dance Even though it is Killing the music It's still Dancable Yeah But I thought That was What we had the whole time I did the interview And they was like What's the difference Between y'all And And they was like What's the difference Between y'all in Chicago And me and T-Dot was like They don't got the sauce Like You don't wanna dance Today music You feel me You'll get up and go Do drills You'll feel that shit But you Don't wanna dance Like we got the combination To make you dance And Whatever else Comes with it You feel me But if you're not like that You definitely Go and dance You feel me So You end up that Dancing door Okay Remember I mean I think Brooklyn Been like that Even when G is not in the Remember They just dance And they not on shit Till they got Indicted for all this Crazy shit Yeah So How do you feel about Like the Bronx I guess Not giving Brooklyn a flowers I hear a lot of times They be like Oh Brooklyn drill This and that I don't really Know about it Cause I Not know about Bronx drill But I'm saying Like them not I didn't even know They wasn't giving Niggas flowers I thought I thought I was like a mutual Respect But if they on Hots Them on Hots too It's not I feel like A lot of them Be like Brooklyn is dead And stuff like that Yeah Yeah Are you gonna Wake them up Hell yeah I mean Yeah Yeah Yeah Like The Bronx Niggas shit It's kinda weird Because like I can't fake beef with nobody Like If we not Really doing it We don't have beef Bro You know So I'm not gonna Go and Diss them Niggas Cause it's niggas That's saying Crazy shit Like I'm smoking on Such and Such I'm like My brother You never met The young man You was Ten miles away From the water And across the bridge That nigga was over here Really putting in work We don't know What you doing over there So But I ain't about to be Gaining all that with the niggas Like That shit is lame You know what I mean It's lame But if niggas Not giving niggas They fly with Niggas is drunk Like It don't matter if niggas Is like If they feel like Niggas falling off or not You feel me like This is Ah shit This shit ain't called This is niggas Try to take it in Oh this is called Brooklyn Drain It wasn't New York drill don't exist You feel me It's Brooklyn Drain Before that There was nothing else We wasn't If you wanted to get on We had the jacket You feel me If you was from Queens Staten Island Bronx I don't give a fuck Where you was from We didn't jacket You wasn't on nothing You wasn't on nothing And that's a fact At the time But times change You sit down You read in line And you turn company You feel me They turn king Nobody can hate on that So do you feel like You're definitely going to do drum music now? I'm doing everything I might do it I might do a motherfucking reggaeton song next week I got a song in Spanish Word mom of his life But you learn You know Spanish See I'm just acting Me gusta casamigos Okay Yo I'm just acting Spanish expert Yeah Nah that's too funny Nah I'm just acting Because you know A lot of the younger kids Is doing drill now So do you feel like You're too old for it Or like Or you feel like You want to go and show them a lesson Like what are you How you feeling I love drill bro Like I love the sport You know me like I love this shit Babe I'm not going to just Ever just be like Oh yeah I'm too old To be talking about Nah Shay you been talking about Yeah cause it's like I If you really pay attention Like y'all was telling me Yo stop the diss I stopped it And I stopped it You feel me And I just I learned how to do it Without mentioning the Nigger name And all that other shit You feel me So I know how to Talk drill without Dissing and all that shit You were like Y'all was telling We were telling Cause you kept trying to Say we don't listen To your music Nah it wasn't I said Y'all I don't mean Talk of the town I mean like Everybody was Heavy on the Yo bro you gotta Stop dissing niggas You feel me That's what it was And y'all Y'all part of the people Like Right specifically You was like You're literally like Original drill But you really have to Stop dissing niggas So I can go fuck Yeah So like When you was doing Cause was they like I hear that now They're trying to use Like some lyrics And like court and stuff Now Was they doing that with you Did you care about that My paperwork Got the folk in the trunk Video in it I was showing it on live The other day Like it's In the paperwork The The exact Balls they use was When I slot What I said How you don't know what you said I don't even remember the balls How you don't know what you said When I slot When I Some shit When I slot No leg shots Aiming for heads and niggas When I slot Homicide No leg shots Aiming for heads and niggas They like Yeah He has no intentions Of trying to catch an attempt He wants to kill him Right He wants to kill Every GD Like Then It's like I told niggas the other day Like I really don't do the live shit Niggas be trying to get me To come on their live And do what I used to do And Scream my phone I'm like Yo bro I'm watching niggas Like I come on there Niggas get excited They ready to go They start screaming That they phone And I'm looking at niggas Like Yo you look crazy Bro Time for that You're not even saying no facts Like You just screaming Niggas is jacking Your flashback So when you It makes me look crazy In my head Like Boy you was looking crazy Like I really sat down to watch All my lives the other day And I'm like never Yeah Me and BMG Might have to get it on Like he low key was lying to me You know what I mean Yeah You don't laugh about everybody You don't laugh about us Yeah I go live About everybody But I was good My worst thing Was going live And going to niggas hoods Like Going Being in stories And spinning Like all of this shit That's what really got us lit though Because it was like Niggas was like Alright We could watch this shit And listen to the rap At the same time And know exactly What the fuck these niggas Is talking about So And so can cops Yeah And so can So can the federal government Yeah So We should not advise that To the people Yeah I advise you Don't go on live Anywhere And do any crimes If you're going to do crimes You might want to That thing Y'all call it Balaclava or whatever Balaclava is what is cool Put that shit on And turn the camera on Some education For the people Yeah Because I don't think You do not want to go to jail There's no pussy in there Okay Yeah It's not a lot of things in there The niggas says pussy Yeah Pussy is the one I'm missing the most No It's Balaclava Chance Listen Yeah Somebody No But um Yeah So like I feel like He's like going live Like arguing And kind of doing what we used to do Back in the day But I feel like now It's like The kids go live About everything Yeah It's crazy because The paperwork party Are humble Humble them Humble everybody Now Paperwork party Are humble a lot of niggas I tried to throw one out of it They ain't niggas ducked it The paperwork party Oh no My paperwork Absolutely not Like A week The paperwork party Stop all that internet shit But like What advice would you give I guess The younger people That's doing that now They gonna regret it later They should chill out Have some lawyer money And some other money Behind that too Jail expensive Jails expensive Jails expensive Especially if you like To live life Like If you out here Living You don't want to go To live too So Like What's living life in jail In a fucking Like that's Your city Like Your crib is your city Especially right now With this corona shit Like you're in that crib Like 85% of the day If you in a jail Jail Like Mediums and lows And all that other shit And camps and Baby jails That shit's nothing If you in like Jail jail Ha Or Pen Or something like that You're stuck in your crib Damned there most of the day So Tickets over here Or These things play dice over there You want to go to y'all I mean I play dice every day Like Mandatory If I didn't play dice My head would hurt But Mandatory I play dice So Dice is expensive You might lose one day So You need money You want to do same shit You're doing a hug Because I play dice every day now Instead So So if you're going to sit down And you want to be dumb And act Like You don't see niggas Going to jail Doing stupid shit Like Had you some lawyer money And Had you some money for jail For jail expenses So you was in there through Like the whole COVID The beginning of the COVID Like I was out here for the beginning of the COVID Uh-huh When I caught it I almost died You caught COVID How are you? I don't know You almost knocked me out Shit fucked me up Blood clots in my lungs All kind of shit But you was in jail When When the pandemic was happening When the pandemics I went to jail August The pandemic started in February Okay So it was like The ending of the pandemic It was like We're gonna No Cause it's in February I think it's That's just Whenever People The unemployment Should end Is when the pandemic Ended What I'm saying is like When the 10k Stop being the 100k Where have That shit What Yo That's when the pandemic Ended What I was getting to Was like People was like In court Waiting for their court dates And they kept Part of that process Did that happen to you? My shit was a little different Because When I got there You know the rapper Nigga Chico? Chico De Nero Okay And he's supposed to be Like he said Oh that's the Absa But I knew him before He was whatever Whatever So when I got there I'm like I bump into him Or whatever He pulled up on me Like So we took him out The shit He's like Bro if you're Gonna cop out My shit was still On the paper Where they came and grabbed me So I'm like Oh yeah I own Bullshit Like when I looked And I'm like I'm not even indicted They on hots Like They could have sat there And watched me For another week You feel me They on hots When they came and got me I told them I'm like The shit That shit I'm like Like With the proof Of what they had on me Or what they were saying I'm like I'm like Guilty to charge That they charge me This time I'm like So I copped out So my shit's different You feel me I had to Wait for them To see if they gonna indict me Or not So I can't say Or I wasn't going to court Because But I was sat there And watched Niggas not go to court For months Until they started doing Like video court And shit like that Niggas was going to court Over the phone You're not even seeing No judge You're going in the office And getting on the phone And you're in court And then it was Video court She was bad And then people was high Because they thought it was Rumors like Everybody was going to get out Or something Nah, it was mad bitch It was mad rumors Oh, you could get Two days for one And shit like that And I'm like Let me get it If that's the case I'm ready to go This shit tries So in there You wasn't really Keeping up with What was going on Outside Was you? Not once I left Brooklyn Okay Because I was The Fed Fed is like Where Remember Lust? It's where Lust is like Over there by Lust Okay Yeah, so You in Brooklyn Yeah So I could keep up with What was going on You know, Niggas is coming in And I ain't telling her But once I left It was like That shit is cut off Okay So you wasn't like Calling back home too much Trying to hear like What was going on Nah, especially because I was scared of Niggas Scared of Niggas Niggas get on that phone And start playing with Your fucking freedom Bro Niggas get on that phone And want to tell you So I don't I don't want to know about that Because you feel me You don't tell me None of that shit Okay So it was more So to be at peace Or you just Didn't want to Hear what was going on And you couldn't help it Like what? I did not want them To come and tell me I got a new case That's it Like So I need to hear You can say that Is to be at peace So I was just calling My big mama Okay All right So like Fabio was already Locked up But I'm sure Like you heard him On the radio and shit At that time Didn't listen to the radio When Joe Well, I mean He was on the radio When I was in Brooklyn Going crazy And then when I got to My first spot Was in PA I went to PA They was playing Him on the TV You know what I mean Like BET Jams Okay So I'm seeing them On BET Jams And then Our blue PA Got went to West Virginia And Got to hear him I wasn't hearing them At first When I was out there And then Everybody knew Oh, Fabio This is Fabio man You know what I mean Like Everybody Because there wasn't No New York niggas in there So everybody was like Yeah, I'm like Nah, I'm like I'm on some shit Like why y'all call me Fabio man bro I'm a custom model Why am I my own name Bro But nobody's from New York There's like Everybody Brock Craig was No New York niggas So I was like I'm in there And niggas from all over I began to city of gods And then my city of gods came up Everybody was like New York city And then they was like Oh, that's it But After that It was like Oh, yeah Bro gone crazy Because after that I just kept going Seeing Fabio Fabio Fabio Fabio I'm like So I called You know You're being famous Famous Famous Famous Famous Famous Hey Sniggas got Fucking Did a track with Elon Man that's fucking Crazy That is Crazy Elon Man is like Gods Like niggas that play football Football Sandpipes Man just in the studio And shit So how would you describe I guess you and Fabio Relationship That's the Bro That's what He's supposed to do for me Especially when he Come out With Like He the one that sent the I made it to Ronald Lyle, you know, bought my fake, or like, and then like, people be like expecting me to go, oh, five of you supposed to come home and put 20 bust-downs on my neck and this dying neck. And that's not what this is, bro. Niggas, I'm a grown-ass man, you know what I mean, right? Your job ain't the motherfuckin' take care of me, you know what I'm sayin'? So we show love to each other, bro, we brothers, you know what I'm sayin'? Okay, so you feel like it's genuine, for sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause you know what happens? People feel like, oh, Wednesday, man's goin' up, it'd be like a lot of jealousy, a lot of weird stuff goin' on. You don't, you never, ever got that vibe? I was with five of you and five of you ain't had nothin', you know what I'm sayin'? And I was getting money, you know what I'm sayin'? So it's like, when the road switch, it's like, nigga, it's all right, you know what I'm sayin'? Like, how can I be mad at you goin' up? You don't owe me nothin', nigga. I didn't rap these balls for you. Okay, okay, you know? Yeah, I feel like, you know. A lot of people don't understand that. They feel like, all right, my man get rich, he's supposed to take me with him, you feel me? Your job for real, for real, is to show me the opportunities and I'm supposed to find my way to take advantage of them. That's your job. Your job ain't to motherfuckin' bring me. You put the fuckin' Cosmigo ball next to me. My job is to go like this. Or open it, yeah. And drink. What's with my gums? We are the Cosmigos, y'all. We know. Oh, we know. But. Yeah, so, I'mma drink. You bring me to the water, I'mma drink. He kinda responsible for me getting some. You feel me? Like, he definitely brought me around the nigga that. The people that, yeah. And I did what I was supposed to do. So, you were originally from Brownville? I'm originally from the Fluss. From the Fluss, not bad. But, I jumped off the porch. Now I jumped off the porch in Brownsville. You feel me? Like, I never was a nigga that was outside in the Fluss doing shit. I was in Brownsville doing nonsense and hollering in Fluss. Okay, so, people, I guess, have their own theories of JD and Fabio, what it should be like. What do you say? Because you was there from the beginning to the end. It's just bad communication, that's all. That's the best way to describe it? It is bad communication. So, you think it was fixable? It's fixable right now. But, there's no but, they just not. They just gotta fix it. So, what is it? Like, they're just not communicating? Like, what is it? I don't know how they're next. Like, I'm not being cool in here nothing. For real, like, that's just the topic I'm, I'm, I'm gonna, nah, I don't got no parts in it. Like, like, Fabi's not gonna ask me to take sides. He's not gonna go, oh, yo, boy, who you fucking with? You feel me? Not saying you have to take sides, but I'm saying people feel like, Fabio could've looked off of JD's. JD makes songs saying what could've, should've, could've happened. May Swinton did interviews. Like, I'm sure you see what's going on. So, from you, you know, being there, being both sides, do you feel like anything could've went differently or? Fabi did a lot for, for Niggas, bro. Yeah. But, what Niggas wanted from Fabi was for Niggas to, for Niggas to go. To hold hands? Yeah, bring you, like, drag you in. Like, you feel me? It's not that easy, bro. Like, Fabi walked me in. He walked me in the Columbia. Like, when the day Pops Smoke died, the next day, he walked me in the Columbia. Sawing him, I'm not gonna know it without him. You feel me? I'm not, I'm not dying. I'm not gonna know it without him. You feel me? But it don't work like that. You know what I'm saying? They looked at him and was like, yo, you're a wild one, bro. Like, first of all, we know who he is. You're a bucket. You're a wild one. Like, so it don't work like that. It don't, it don't work like that. So do you think it's a lack of, like, not understanding the business or, and I guess, or you think it's just a hood mentality thing? It is also niggas in your ear. Like, like, I know somebody said something, man. I know you just get up and just talk back. Feeling like that, yup. Cause look, I didn't know what was going on. So you came to my door. Yo, you got to call the town and talk to your niggas, bro, they welling, bro. It was a lie going on. What the fuck are you even talking about? Yo, come to the office. Come to the office. I go to the office. He showed me the shit. Video song. Man, I'm like, she's niggas. Fuck it, bro. But I never, I never said nothing about it. I came out of my clothes. I felt like it was something that was gonna work itself out. You feel me? I'm like, it kinda did that. It will. So you have faith in will. Judging over the last track he made, God did. Sounded like you wanted to fix it. I didn't agree with every ball in there cause he said I even did Shepard Cosmodo and I'm like, I was a feature on the same song, man. I was only so I got with you. We both features on that song, but fuck it. You my little, JD, my man, JD, JD was definitely going viral, so I can't take nothing from him. You know what I mean? I think JD is a good artist and he knows how to like vocalize how he feels. And I think we was just more so surprised to hear it from Fabio. Cause he, I mean, he said a little bit. I don't know what Fabio said back. I heard JD said. JD made a couple for him, so. Yeah. They was going back and forth for a minute. It's hard to keep up with it. But all in all though, I think that they both want to work it out, but I think egos and pride get the best of both of them. This is my opinion. You know them. I feel like niggas do need to work it out. That's just my opinion. I can't, I ain't saying no more than that. You feel me? I love both of them. I was, I was that little, I told you I came home. I got booked immediately. JD heard I was in there. Bunked into somebody from my crib. I was like, go tell him. Make sure you come outside. I mean, I'm trying to see him. I don't know how. So now I'm like that. Chop it up, man. Yeah, but I went to, I saw D-side. I went to D-side crib. I was right in that motherfucker like, yo, what do you say about, you know what I mean? So D-side, D-side. It's still love. You feel me? Like niggas don't look at me and go, oh, you still fuck with that nigga. Cause you know, you know how fuck everybody in brands was like. So it's like niggas don't look at me and go, you fuck with that nigga. It's still, no. Cosmon, what's up, bro? It's all love. They really don't got like the whole brands but don't got a problem with all of them. It's not that. No, they don't. Yeah, they definitely don't. It's a personal thing. It just needed to be, it just better communication. Yeah. But all in all though, I mean, so I'm sure when, I'm sure that everyone has similar problems when they're going up. So when you was going up, when you and Tida was going up, when y'all was traveling with Bobby, was like some of your like, I guess friends back home jealous or moving weird or. Fuck with nobody. I don't give a fuck. Bro stop. You have. You know, but you know me, like you know, like, I don't give a fuck. Like you feel the way, fuck you. We over here in LA fucking bitches. They sitting on a bad way in 10 hours to suck dick. You think I give a fuck what you talking about? You think I give a fuck? Nah, I didn't stop talking like that. Yo. Look though, that's facts though. Like for real, if I was on hots, that's how I would feel. But for real, for real, like nobody, I didn't, because I brought niggas around. I used to bring niggas right out the trenches. Come on, you're going to be going to. Wherever. Roll the aisle and know where the fuck we going for the day or whatever, you feel me? Come on, we out, you feel me? I never was on some like, I never got bougie with this shit, you feel me? Never, I ain't never get bougie. To this day, you'll catch me in Bransville at the G-Spot tomorrow, you feel me? Like. Oh my God. Allegedly. I'm in there. Now I'm in the fuck, I'm in there. I'm in there like, and I'm rolling straight deadies. I'm in there. So when does like the hood shit stop? Bro, the rich should be borrowing to me like. What's born about? But let me tell you. Like what? I'm gonna tell you, let me see the best way I can say this because I don't want to ride my sofa. Yeah, like what are you saying? I've been getting money. Okay. So it was like, the shit that come with it is like, it don't excite me. Oh, yeah. Because I was doing this when I was still chilling in the trenches. I was going to different states and. Travelling stuff. And hanging out in the ballroom. I used to go buy the ballroom every hour. Go outside, do whatever I gotta do. Come back and spend all my money in the ball. And fuck two bitches for the night. And we doing the same shit now. So what's the difference? We just infancy your balls and shit like that. So like none of this shit impressed me. You feel me? But you like the hood shit is cooler on you? Nah, but I gotta understand that you will die. Keep going back to the hood. I watched my favorite rapper's dog, like Stackbun with Dodd in his hood. Ching's drugs, Dodd. Nipsey Hustle. Nipsey Hustle, Dodd. In front of his store. Do you feel like, I feel like a lot of. I'm a little more sturdy with it. But you know, a lot of guys feel like they have to go, you know, and get back to the hood. No, fuck no. Fuck the mix. You disagree? Fuck them. Straight up, listen to me, gang. You don't owe nobody in there, nothing. Because the hood is backdoor and cutthroat. You don't owe them niggas shit. So you feel like if you make it out, you're lucky, but you ain't your own, that's it? If you make it out the hood, like you're lucky, and you should like, you know, go on. If you make it out the hood, you got your own decision if you want to go back or not. But you don't owe nobody nothing. If you owe, then just trust me, it's a spreadsheet somewhere with your name and prices on it, nigga. Other than that, you don't owe nobody shit. That's one thing. Niggas feel like you get on and you're supposed to take care of everybody. Money, how much money you think they giving all people? The first of all, you get something for em, they take the taxes off that shit. You're not getting the whole em. Then you're managed to get some of that bread. And you might, if you're lucky, you wasn't signed to the labor before that, because they're gonna take some of that bread too. So niggas ain't getting all this money, niggas think niggas is getting, but the hood ain't seen that. All the hoods see is $2 million. He got two ems, and he got a bus down or, why I don't got a bus down. I used to be with that nigga outside. Why do you ain't take the charge for me then? That is very true. Niggas gotta know, you don't owe these niggas nothing, bro. I owe you a friendship, you feel me? How real of a friend was you though? If I don't, if I feel like I could leave you, that mean you really wasn't that much of a friend to me anyway, you feel me? Cause I'm not leaving my real friends. And when I say not leaving, I don't mean, oh, I'm about to buy you a house in a car and move your, I ain't that rich yet, but when I get there, I might get you there, you feel me? But off the red, you gonna definitely come to the studio late night, you definitely gonna come to them shows. I'm gonna try to like take back, I keep taking back out the hood as much as I can. Yeah, the best you could. All right, so what is something like, back to the music though, what is something like musical goals right now? Right now, cause you kind of did a lot. You did a lot. I'm in the limbo right now for real, I'm like low key stuck in between, should I continue on costume models saying, or should I really try to like, fuck with what niggas got going on and you feel me? Like, so right now I'm trying to find a balance. But bro, I'm trying to go viral, bro. Like, it ain't nothing else to it. Like I got to go viral. Like I don't want to do nothing else but rap. So I have to do it. I'm saying I have to do it as best as I can. So I'm looking for the best way to do it and just keep going crazy after that. So you're really just trying to see what sound people are fucking with or you're trying to see like where you want to go with it? What sound can I do that people going fuck with? Okay, and you don't want to go back to what you was on before. What's that? The dissing in the drill. But I stopped that before I went to jail. I know, you didn't do the project, but again, but was you here to see like the feedback from that? What, like what? Yeah, from the project. No. I'm saying, so do you know if people were fucking with it? Would you do something like that again or? I feel like if I'd have been a home note, we could have pushed it in a different direction. We could have been way more crazier with it. You feel me? Like, see that was rocking with it because I was rocking with it. You feel me? He didn't want to do it by himself. You feel me? Like once I left, it wasn't, it wasn't Kobe and Shaq no more. It was just Kobe by himself. You feel me? Like, you see how Kobe by himself was? He wasn't really jacking, you know what I'm saying? So, like. He was sacrificing. Yeah, he did what he did. He comfortable with the gods. You feel me? But yeah, he wasn't really helping on music once he got left. I mean, he was doing songs, but. And he didn't drop them like that. Yeah, he wasn't going crazy. He wasn't like, super job. I think if Tida was super job, we definitely would have. Yeah, that song could have been a little bit better. But so do you want to do another project? Do you feel like you put too much time into that project and the cops took it from you? Like, what do you feel? Oh, like the way I feel is like for real with the project that I had before I left. Because I had to take Ko Suvi, you feel me? Like, besides Kobe and Shaq, we had the Suvi tape. And my manager's got that tape ready right now to just go. I mean, in my mind, I'm on some shit like, bro, we better than that. So we're going to take some songs off that motherfucker and put some new shits on it, you feel me? Because it's like, I feel like it's not going to represent me. So you're going to sit and wait for her to take that? Oh, no, for more than 103. You've been heard that song, though. It was in the studio. Yeah. I wasn't home when he made it. I know, but you heard it in the studio. Yeah, like when the first video came out? I was playing and making a snippet of song. Yeah, when that first video came out, a bunch of the studio, like literally, I probably got there like 40 minutes after that first snippet. Oh, wow. OK, so moving on. I guess. What would you say is your biggest hurdle right now being an artist fresh from home? It's not going to happen. Deciding if you want to catch up or just do you. And that's everybody's thing. I'm not going to say no rappers' names, but it's a couple of rappers that came home and took my big names that was like, you can hear it in the music, where it's like, he trying to do what niggas is doing, but you're not. And he had to catch up and get right. And he's started this shit out. Yeah, right. I'm not saying nobody made no. Why you don't want to give flowers? Why you don't want to give flowers? It's not flowers. It's more like weeds. We don't hand out weeds over here. For you. Because weeds get looked at as bad flowers and then niggas fill away. So we ain't going to hand that out. Because I'm not really. I get the fuck. I get the fuck. 24-7. It don't matter if I'm trying to be sincere with what I'm saying. It backfires. So I watch what I say. OK. You like to call yourself Mr. Him, quote unquote? Yeah. OK. So we're going to play a little game. I'm going to say a category. Are you going to tell me who? Take a shower with me first. I ain't even finished directing. So I'm going to say a category. And you say, like, who's, I guess, Mr. Him, quote unquote, of this category? Let's do it. You get it? Got it? All right. Chicago drill. There's no dirt. That was quick. Schmerkeo. All right. Drill beats. Axel beats. OK. And mercury. Labels. Leave me out of that one. Oh, you don't know? Take a shot. No comment? Yeah. Let me take a shot. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah, I forgot what you got to tell them. No comment, you got to take a shot. Like, no comment. You know, people would say, like, the Mr. Him labels like a lantic. Everybody would get mad numbers. But some people say this time. You want me to take another shot? I'm just, OK, whatever. OK, no comment. Don't stop me from getting one of them off my face. Who is the Mr. Him of Brooklyn drill right now? Fabio. OK. Of course he's going to say Fabio. OK, who is the Mr. Him in New York right now? I guess under 21. Nick is under 21? In what, Brooklyn? In the whole city. 41. OK. OK. I mean, I can't say the whole city. I don't really. From what you know of? From, I'm going to talk about, OK, I'm going to stick in Brooklyn. 41. OK, so who's the Mr. Him of the Bronx? 41's Ops. I'm going to leave it at that. That's an honest answer. Yeah, I love Nick as I ain't going to lie. I love Nick as the Bronx. What's going on? They have a lot. They got, like, a Nat Ops in the Bronx. A Nat Ops, yes. So, which one are we talking about here? Now I ain't going to lie. The Nick is the, the, the, the Nick is that fuck with the nigga that died. Oh, D.D. Osama or no? D.D. Osama. I mean, Nick is doing numbers out there. But, that's only because K.Flock's locked up, I'm saying to them. You see what I mean? Yeah, K.Flock's is definitely, I don't, I heard, like, three songs on the face of the Bronx. From what I see, a nigga cut a fresh home. Son look like he got it. I ain't no dick riding shit. You see what I mean? K.Flock's like, look like that's his shit. You see what I mean? OK. I could be wrong, man. So, from the outside looking at it, he definitely look like K.Flock got it. Yeah, it's not. I'm, I'm. What's your opinion? I'm not in his face in this question. Oh, OK. Yeah, you got to, you got to talk show the run. Yeah, so, because K.Flock locked up, what do you say to you or someone? Now, I just say, I just like the little niggas you've used. Yeah. I don't really know the other niggas. I know, I heard of a nigga named G's. And he say he the face of the Bronx. All I see is really him arguing with SBM, shit, or his bitch, I don't shit. Yeah, and I don't really know what he's saying or his tracks. Them other little niggas, they, I go understand them. OK. So, you can't get with the Batman voices? Come on, bro. I was looking at my archives, bro. Remember, I wasn't jacking them since, like, 2019, bro. I can show you a fucking, I saved it on my phone and all that, like, I can literally show you. Since 2019, remember, I was like, all the lights getting niggas and the white people are rapping like this. Batman. And for real, for real, niggas is doing the same shit, like, so I never, I'm not being biased. I never jacked it, you know what I mean? Especially if you could talk like this, you know what I mean? You talk like this. Like, when I get loud, my voice really get raspy. You feel me? Oh, we know. We saw you yelling online and stuff like that. It's like, for you to make that voice is real to me. All right. So, Moomong, who's the Mr. Hymn of blogs? I don't know how to pronounce his name. I don't watch his shit. But something lit from what I seen, Kai Sanat. Kai Sanat? That's how you pronounce it? He's not a blog, though. What he do? He a Twitch streamer. But he don't play no video games. I thought Twitch was video games. So they call it IRL, like, in real time or something, or in real life. So he just do mad real life shit. But he's not a blogger. I'm talking about, like, academic, state cheese, no jumper, upper class, Kirkland. Like, who's the Mr. Hymn of the blogs? Right now? I don't fucking know. So you haven't been able to come on? Kirkland been bringing me on his live, but it'd be too much. I'm not sure. I'm not sure I'm going to be sharing. Oh, you were shopping and was sick the other day. Yeah, I was supposed to something out right there. So y'all good? It's not, it's not, I can't say it was never no beef. It was definitely up. But we ain't got no beef. I was in jail with Kev Hondo. OK. Like, Kev Hondo was in the crib with me. And big homeboy, Rocco, he was in the crib with me. And one night, we was on a crib time together, you feel me? So I'm on some shit. Like, I'd be not doing that, you feel me? But they got beef from my means. Like, that's my means, man. Yeah, we know. So it's on some shit. Like, leave them niggas alone, you feel me? As long as them niggas don't get touched, I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck about anything, honestly. But leave that alone, you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm at with it. So, but we chopped it up. I even gave him his flowers. I told him, I'm like, yo, bro, I ain't got a lot of niggas that sound like you. Like, you were one of them Batman kids. I'm not used to Batman kids, I'm not funny. All right, so who's the Mr. Hemo drip? Like, who be having that shit on? You can't say who be having on drip? You think it was, I don't be seeing niggas in no drip. I mean, niggas be put on. But it don't, even from before you went to jail, like Gunna and I was drippy. Oh, you want me to sing rappers like that? You don't have to keep it local. Keeglock. Keeglock? Yeah, Keeglock. That's the, Young Dove was the goat. I'm gonna hold you. Young Dove had it. Like, hands down, Young Dove was the drippiest rapper. You know how I read from Brooklyn, I read the old fibers, the drippiest rapper on the heart. But Dove get busy. Like, that's the D&G bass to himself, like. And I love D&G. But Keeglock got it now that he gone. Keeglock definitely picked up where he left off at. Pick the way he left off at, that's cool. So how do you feel about like, well, I know you're hearing about all the artists dying and stuff like that. So like, you feel like, how do you feel? Shit fucked up, bro. Being a rapper is dangerous. Yeah, bro. That shit, like, bro, it's like 50,000 niggas that don't rap, that get money. That's outside, go stick them. Like, why you want to go get the rapper for? Like, this nigga, like nine times out of 10, bro, you see a rapper nigga, he been through it, bro. Like, I don't know a lot of rappers that didn't go through it, bro. Like, he was never broke. He was never homeless. You never, niggas be going through it for this shit. You feel me? And niggas be really making it out. You feel me going to jail, being fucked up in jail, whatever the situation is. Like, niggas be going through it to make it to where niggas is at. And niggas be getting hit for nonsense. Like, when P&B died, like, niggas in the feds ignorant. So niggas making jokes about the shit because they think they the top killers in America. You feel me? But I'm in there and I'm like, damn, I'm in that nigga. Brought us out, you feel me? Brought us to Philly, gave us Mad Ross the pasta from his spot in the shop. You already show love and I was cool as a manager. I was supposed to go there. But we shot like, whoa, I was supposed to go. They was like, yo, he's going to stay out here one more day. I'll be reliant to come to the credit, you feel me? Like, he was showing love to niggas, you feel me? Like, so he went out on some, like, sucker shit like they. So I don't really be jacket niggas clapping the rappers unless it's like, matter of fact, I ain't going to say that. I don't be jacket niggas clapping the rappers. You feel me? Like, nah, go clap. It's niggas to clap. If niggas is rapping, trust me, they're not really trying to kill everybody. So go clap the niggas that's clapping niggas. That's knocking niggas off. Those the niggas you want. It is certain rappers that's out here raping. Go get them to that. You feel me? OK. But all in all, like, you know, rapping, people say it's dangerous. And then, like, you know, we're losing people constantly. You're also an artist. Do you ever feel like, do you ever, like, have those thoughts? Like, you got to keep watching and back and stuff like that? I'm on point, like, a fucking number two pencil. From the moment I walk out my house, I literally look out the window before I walk out my crib. I can't go, like, I ain't. Because this shit, it, it, and that's another thing I be trying to tell these little niggas, like, yo, bro, you, you think, all right, I'm dissing these niggas. I know only, bro, you got, you don't even know. You feel me? I done been, I done got into it with niggas. And I'm like, who the fuck was that just now? You feel me? Like, luckily, I ain't easy to care. Who the fuck was that just now? Like, this shit get wicked. Niggas would just be, like, banged out and think they are ops. Or a nigga would just be, like, he too tough. I want to see if he really bought that shit. You feel me? Yeah. And that shit, that shit dangerous both ways. Because you could die, or you could kill a nigga and go to jail. So in both ways, your shit could come to a stop. You feel me? Just cause a nigga want to try. Just cause a nigga playing around. But not even on something like that, but just on something like, does this fuck with your emotions? Like, a lot of artists have been open to play with you about how they're depressed, and they suffer from PTSD. Do you feel like you one of those people? Not from, not from, not from, Not from being an artist, but from, like, other shit. From, like, jail and shit. Yeah, like, T.Dot fucked me up. You feel me? Like, yeah, that fucked me up. I need a certain shit that gotta happen for me to get right. My brain, little fuck, both that shit, you know? And I ain't get to grieve, like, like, nigga see me post him, like, six, seven, eight, fucking post back to back in my stories. And, yo, brah, nah, nigga, you got to grieve. I ain't get to do that. I ain't get, I couldn't cry every day. I couldn't do all that shit where I was at. You feel me? You feel me? So, this is my way of, you know? So, yeah, but that shit, I'm a little fucked up. I'm a little fucked up, you feel me? But why? How are you dealing with it now? I mean, of course you're not in jail no more, so do you feel like you gonna talk to people? Do you feel like you just wanna spread all the advice that you could, like? I be trying to stop this from going to jail, bro, because for real, for real, niggas be telling, and niggas gonna be so surprised who to have. I done seen killers, like, you got four, five, six of them under your belt, you finally get caught, you give up everybody. You feel me, like, nigga, you was out here knocking niggas off, bro, like, what the fuck, how you wasn't set up for that? How you wasn't ready to go to jail? Niggas, you supposed to be like, so, I be trying, like, letting niggas know like this shit ain't, but niggas is telling niggas, where that first 48 shit ain't a joke, niggas tell as soon as they get in that room, like, they'll tell over you, they'll tell over you, that shit not, and I be trying to tell niggas, like, you, because this shit come with means, like, you get means when you on the direction, it come with means, like, niggas pop out the blue all of a sudden, they like your man on the low, like, or you're on the high, like, who the fuck are you for real, you feel me? Like, so, you never know the type of niggas you around and what can happen, because the dangerous feel we in. I'm not sure. And you don't wanna niggas to tell on you, because I don't wanna niggas to tell on you, or you can't go to trial, you can't go to nothing. I feel like, I talk to a lot of artists, and I see a lot of artists, I guess the way that they deal with it is, like, they take perks, or they smoke, and stuff like that, like. I'm on probation, that's even the worst part, I can't really, see how fast I've done this little bottle? I'm not even drunk, I'm gonna keep it to myself, like. So, like. Hey, I can't really, I couldn't do it off the rip, you feel me? The drugs they got in jail, I don't take that. You feel me? Not saying we want you to take drugs. No, listen to me, slow down, slow down. I know what you're saying, but it's like, I don't see niggas family dying, they going to sell and smoke the K-2, you feel me? And it's like, you never smoked K-2 before, but fuck that, I need to release. Couldn't go and do it, yeah. Couldn't do it. I'm not into that, you feel me? I gots to stay sturdy all day, so it's like, I had to like just take that shit and straw it, you feel me? So, it fuck you up, bro. It fuck you up, you gotta know how to be a different level strong, you know? Yeah. You gotta know how to be a different level strong. I mean, is that something you would want to share in the music, or maybe we could expect that, or? It comes in, it comes in, it comes in, it comes in, let it it to you. I got a lot of marches on that song. Okay. Definitely need to let it to see that song. Yeah, I started a little saying that shit, I don't care who finna tell me I'm weak, like, I don't care, that's my man. I feel like, yeah, a lot of the city is real judgmental nowadays, but you never cared. I don't give a fuck, you run up if you want to. You never cared. You never cared. If running up is a choice, you choose to make, God be with you, you feel me, so. Okay, and then now when you come home, I feel like before you got locked up, everybody was posting you from different blocks to different people. When you come home, do you feel like you're getting that same love? Do you feel like it's a whole bunch of new pages now? Like, what do you throw some whole blog culture right now? Cause you was not filling people's before. I ain't really, all I know is y'all on the radar. I don't know nothing else, like, I don't know who else is lit. I mean, other blogs, like, you know, what music sounds like. I seen that. I thought that was a rapper. No. I seen, like, every time I look on there, I see white people. No, you don't. I swear to God, I do. What NYC sounds like is not, um, white people? I be seeing white people. I think it's the name is Non-17 Racks, and then there's some other kid. I be seeing on TikTok, and then, um. So you seen a post, man, white people? I be seeing white people. Every time I seen it. I mean, we got white people doing drill now. For what? White people. All right, I can't say nothing about the Non-17 Racks kid. He from Sheepset, but he from The Peas or whatever. But the TikTok, the motherfuckers I seen on TikTok, and then I seen some other, man, I don't know. Shit be like watered down, you know? Okay. That's what I could say for sure. Once this shit left, like, Brooklyn hands, super watered down. Okay. Super. Watered down, that's not creative, or watered down like anybody trying to do it now. Anybody could come do this shit. And I think I wouldn't even say, because of Brooklyn, because of me. Like, there's no somebody, there's nobody, there's not even feeling myself real, real, real, real. I wasn't jacking nothing. If I thought you was on post, I'm going to, there's nobody going, you're whack. There's nobody going, why are you here? There's nobody doing that no more. There's just everything that's out. No artist are doing that. Like, Apocard's very much be telling that he's when they whack. Yeah, but it's like, for real, for real. I feel like everybody be trying to play his thing. I'm Jack, upper class, that's my son. You feel me? Like me and him, you know, we got into it too. You know, I got into everybody. Everybody. Yeah, we got into it. We ended up meeting up with each other three o'clock in the morning, middle of flyboats, in the eyes, like, you feel me? And we, whatever, squashed the shit, you feel me? So, I jacked son whole box and platform and shit. The way he do shit? Yeah, but he's not a nigga with, just because you said this nigga's whack, nigga's is gonna go, I'm not gonna bump him. Nigga's is just gonna go, oh, upper said you whack. You feel me? For real. I don't think nobody had that super impact where a nigga said he was trashed and the niggas wasn't jacking him. I feel like the only person we really did that and stuck with it was 6ix9ine. When 6ix9ine came out of the city, nobody listened to him no more than that. I feel like now people don't care. I feel like the only thing that really, like when I used to say niggas is pussy, cause I would never say a nigga that's not pussy, was pussy. When I used to say niggas was pussy, niggas used to really be like, all right, let me sit back and analyze this shit real quick. You feel me? And niggas used to really look like, oh yeah, this nigga ain't doing shit, you know what I mean? But I'ma stop that. If you pussy, you gotta pass. Just right. So you giving niggas a pass? I don't give a fuck what y'all doing. Stay out my way please, no bother me. I don't want no problems with nobody. Like if you pussy, be pussy, I'm pussy too. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Okay, so what we gonna want? Costumato, five years from now. What do you see? What does it look like? Five years from now. Costumato records, you know what I mean? All the record label? Yeah, I ain't about to crack the whole way through. You gonna sign niggas? I'm trying to run this bag up and then we gonna be gonna, we gonna, yeah, we definitely gonna sign this. Like low key, my first little bag, that's what I want to take and do with it. I want to just start the label because I know who hot. I know who hot. So who hot right now? Who hot right now? From the city? What is it? My 41 niggas man, shout out to us out there. Shout out to y'all, shout out to y'all. Are you just saying that because that's my niggas, I fuck with them niggas. Listen man, I got a fucking post out poster where I was like niggas, we the gruts, you feel me? Like my generation, we the fucking grut bios, you feel me? Those is the Glock it out boomers, you feel me? You got to pass into the Glock it out boomers. You can't just sit here and try to, yo pass that hanging bro, just give it cause you drop the drop it, just give me it. Don't worry about it, keep it going, don't worry about it. Don't worry, you see, y'all saw it. I got you. So those the Glock it out boomers? Yeah, the Glock it out boomers, you got to give it, like ain't nobody else, if he, you know if he, if he falling, if he gets busy, that's my, that's my little brother. You feel me? That's baby bro. But he about to get consistent. All right. You know what? He about to get good. Yo, if he sturdy up, you know what? They out here playing on your name, they saying you ain't getting good. Anyways, the reason I ask who you would sign is because do you feel like you know what it takes for someone to be a star? Or do you know a star when you see one? You got to know a star, I swear to God, I called everybody off the red. Like who? I called pop, look, I called pop when everybody else was like, this nigga ain't got. So you ain't giving him a song though. Give him a song. You say you regret not doing this on pop? No, look, me and pop, not Mac, me and pop saw each other in the motherfucking gas station of course, you're from Brooklyn. You know both of us don't even belong over there. You feel me? We in the gas station and motherfucking, he like, yo, cause, take my number. You feel me? Y'all met in the studio tonight. You feel me? I didn't really know pop have you like that. I knew when you was from the hood, you feel me? But I didn't know I'm heavy, feel me? So, like I said, I was in Browns doing shit, you feel me? So, who I knew from the floor was like from here and there, seeing niggas and all, being around. So, like, I see something like, yo, come in the studio, let's do this. So I'm like, I go in the fucking car, my phone dies immediately, I lose some number. You feel me? He pulls me up in Miami like, December of 2019 or something like that. We out there for all best of weakness and shit like that. I think it was like November or December. He's like, yo bro, we just supposed to do that. Track bro, and me and him in 10K in the fucking kitchen, I'm in the painting. They go, we supposed to do that track. And fucking, I don't say bro. He's like, look, I'm gonna go to Cali. I'm like, I'll be going to Cali too in January. I think I'm gonna be out there. So, we're gonna have to think about it there and do this shit then. You feel me? But that shit never got to happen. So it wasn't like I regret it because it couldn't happen. You feel me? We could have gotten it done. It was just, shit just kept going a lot, you feel me? All right, but you definitely feel like you know what a star when you see one. I knew Pop was gonna be like off the interview before he had a song, you feel me? I said, Oh, the Mel C.B. energy? Remember, yeah, the Mel C.B. energy. He was like, I'm gonna be there in a while. And I'm like, yeah, son, son go crazy, you feel me? He got you, got no trace. Once you say that, you gotta step up and go crazy, you feel me? And he did. When I heard Big Drip, I was in Florida. I'm down in Florida doing my thing, you feel me? And I heard the R1 probably dropped the EP or LP or whatever it is called. I'm bumping in her two cars. I kind of already heard two cars and shit already. I didn't hear Big Drip before. So when I heard Big Drip, I'm like, honestly, it's out of here. I called them. I say, listen, bro, I got 20 grand for you right now, or I give it to you, you feel me? And take care of everything. I'm about to stop rapping. I'm about to try to make it to nigga. That's when he was fuckin' with Pete Gutter. And I'm like, I ain't stepping on Pete Gutter toes, you feel me? I ain't got time for that shit. Yo, Pete Gutter got involved in anything that was happening through Brooklyn. Yeah, Pete Gutter was definitely, anything that was Crip, he got it. You got a free Pete Gutter, man. But yeah, so yeah, just know what a star was. Yeah, you gotta know, it'll be a song. Like you gotta hear it and go, you're gonna hear it and just be like, this thing's out of here. It's no way. Like, it's one nigga that we pushed. Like, he could act like, it's not, I'm Cat. Fame Cobain. You gotta push him, you feel like? What? If he tell you we didn't push him, he's Cat. I'm not, you're my man. You know I ain't gonna pull him with your gang. Like. I didn't say, I didn't. No, no, no. I'm surprised. I didn't even think that. Like me and T-Dot and Fabi, and I think Fetty was the first nigga to play his shit, like on us, on our stories and shit. And he started going up. He kept reposting that shit, reposting that shit. When people start listening to him, he run up, he do what he's supposed to do. You know what I mean? We're like, yeah, like I hear when a nigga got good shit. You know what I'm saying? I know it. So, people feel like, do you feel like there's a thin line between like being inspired and like copying? Is it thin line? Yeah. No, if you copying, you copying. Because people feel like, you know, once Pop Smoke died, everybody had this whole Pop Smoke. I'm not. Don't get me started. I'm just asking, what are your thoughts on it? Junior Choice is a dog, but it holds the rep. You know who that is? No, I'm telling you, like I don't like the Pop Smoke sounding people. I don't like them. I'm not jagging them. So, you don't think that they're just inspired by Pop Smoke? Fuck that. Why you didn't do that when he was alive? Maybe it wasn't inspired yet. Pop, we ain't going for that. We ain't going for that. It will be like, you should have been inspired the whole time. I ain't going for that shit. You should have been inspired. So, it's not a thin line. You see the copying? It's either you jagging on some shit or you fucking, I don't know. It's if you just jagging on shit. Like, all right, we're not going to go with the Pop Niggas because it's a couple of them. You're not going to try and burn nobody's bridge. You know what I mean? So, what are your thoughts on like people jacking Pop Smoke stuff? They can only be one. Of course. And what's your number two, three, four, five and six? They were six little me. Not counting. It's four of them. Pickle, what's that? You know you didn't get me to say anything. No, no. I'm going to say what? No, no. Junior Choi is a dog. Junior Choi, J-N-R-C-H-O-I. I heard him since I was in the fans. He's from the UK though. I don't know what he's on. I'm not jacking him in no kind of way, bro. He's from the UK, he's not from the top. I don't know why. Oh, he's from the UK. I heard him while I was in the feds and I'm just like no fucking way. Turn off the drink, no turn off. Fabio did a song with him. You still don't fuck with him? I don't give a fuck. What the fuck? What the fuck? I don't give a fuck. What the fuck is he? Turn off the drink, turn off the drink. All right, how you know? Turn off the drink, turn off the drink. You have to fuck up. OK, so you don't fuck with him at all. I don't like anybody that tries to sound like Pop Smoke. OK, OK. This is where I draw the line, though. Because you have to understand this. Like, if you ever really been around Pop, you know that's really his voice. He wasn't pretending, you feel me? So if you rap and you sound like Kars, and you talk and you sound like Kars, I can't be mad at you. But if you got a regularized voice when you talk and you sound like Kars when you rap, turn off the drink, turn off the drink, turn off the drink. Yeah, turn off the drink. That's why he doesn't have to know you, man. It's something not right, man. Shit not right, shit not adding up. It's very inspired. You know, like, you caught, um, what was the, what was the shit that used to be like? It's not fake, it's inspired. What was that shit? What is it, man? What is it? I don't know. He was in clothes or some shit like that. Would they be like inspired? They wouldn't call it fake. They'd be like, this shit's inspired. I don't even know what you want. It could be, that could be so many things. It's mad shit, but they was calling it inspired. They wasn't saying like fake. The official, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they didn't be like it's inspired. So he was inspired by Papo? A lot of motherfuckers, I won't say he young one. I'm not calling anybody out. I'm just saying like it's a weapon. Yeah, man. Have you ever been inspired? Have you ever been inspired? Stop being fucking inspired, bro. It's your own sound. So tell people what they're going to see, what they're going to expect this for the year in. I'm giving you Kobe and Shaq this year. Me and Tia are coming out this year. Okay. Bro has to be heard. It's story not over yet. You know what I mean? Okay. And you're going to get a song for me before Thanksgiving. A song before Thanksgiving? Kobe and Shaq this year. Kobe and Shaq this year. Tell the people in this camera where to find you. How can they tune in? How could they fuck with your shit? Well, if I'm on Instagram and Instagram over, I don't deal with nothing else. TikTok? Not yet? I haven't TikTok. I just haven't signed into it. Okay. Yeah. I think it's young costumato. Go look, like costumato, young costumato, Y-O-U-N-G, C-O-S-T-A, M-A-D-O, you know what I mean? Am I on the gram, you know what I mean? Shit about to get lit. And if it don't get lit, it's going to get lit another way. So, and that's positive. That's not negative. Just in case the police is watching. They be wild and they take anything and turn it into anything. If it don't get lit in one field, trust me, I didn't learn 10 other fields in my little term locked up. So I'm going to make sure it happens for sure, for sure. Okay, that's fine. Sure, sure. All right.