 really keen to understand why your company is pursuing a net zero goal. What do you see as the benefits of that kind of ambition and why is it important to you? Again, Elliot, thank you for giving us the chance really to talk. We founded low carbon 10 years ago with a single goal of making a lasting impact on climate change. So net zero wasn't a reference at that time when we founded, but we know we wanted to very much focus on climate change. And I think businesses understand the urgency of climate change. And I think businesses understand the potential problems that come from climate change and thus embrace them. And I think we understand the science and we respect the science and businesses do. And thus when we founded low carbon, it was just around that central belief of making a lasting impact on climate change. And net zero as a target is just the measurement of that. It's the measurement of the footprint that we have on the planet. And thus that's the right approach that we should take with regards to measuring that. So for us, it's a natural progression for us to put a mark in the sand and say, we will be net zero by 2030. It's a natural progression for our business because it's the core of what we've done. It's the core of our foundation. What does delivering on that agenda look to you? What are some of the actions that you're taking? And what does that mean in terms of positive results? Well, I guess the positive results for us is around the measurement. I mean, what I think you've had to do with net zero is break down what are you measuring? So I think any business needs to say, okay, how do I measure my impact? And for us, the challenge that we have is referenced in scope one, two, and three, but really what it means is that from your whole supply chain, how do you make an impact? And how do you measure that? And what's the sum of those parts to understand your impact as a measurement of net zero? And I think that's been the focus that we have had from the beginning. I think now it's a point that we're documenting that and we're measuring ourselves against and we're tracking that data against it as should everybody else. It should just be a natural progression for every business. And in delivering on that mission, what are some of the big challenges you've encountered? How have you made able to overcome them? I think the challenge for us has initially been around about data and really measuring the data. I think that was a challenge and probably something we didn't do originally in the beginning. And I think the lens of shining a light on net zero has meant that companies like ours have been asked to measure every element. And I think that's been good for us. I think gathering data is critical because without it, you can't measure it. But we've also realized you can't do it alone. You have to partner. You have to work across multiple businesses. And we just made an announcement with MassMutual, a U.S. large insurance company who said to us, we want to move 220 billion of our assets to net zero. Low-carbon, can you help us do that? And I think that's a great example of businesses combining together to say, together, let's take our expertise, join them together to make an impact on net zero. So you've obviously been on a journey in founding low-carbon and building it to the scale and impact it has today. What would you say if you could kind of go back to speak to yourself 10 years ago or 15 years ago when you were kind of embarking on this? What would you like to say to yourself? Are the things that you wish you know now that you wish you'd known then? It's not necessarily what I'd wished I'd known. It was just I wished that others had known. I think one of the great outcomes of COP26, it shined a light on the problem. And it has made whether it's governments or businesses or individuals understand that we have a challenge. I think David Attenborough did a tremendous opening remark where, while COP was focused on one and a half degrees, David Attenborough focused on the Keeling curve. So the measurement of CO2 in the atmosphere and he had it at 414 parts per million in his speech. And I think that's a tremendous measurement that we should all have because it's one that we can all see. You can't necessarily see the one and a half degrees. You can't necessarily see how close to achieving that we are, but you can with the Keeling curve. And I think he did for me set that platform and foundation. So it's rewinded to your question. It's not necessarily things that I would have changed. It would be much easier for Locom to launch today because it feels there is more of an acceptance and more of an understanding of the science and more understanding from the schools to homes, to businesses, to government that we all have a challenge that we have to face. I mean you make a great point. I think after COP26, we've been in the run up to it as well, after even more, we're going to see so many other companies embarking on this journey. So companies who have maybe identified it as something they've been thinking about, but now realize that they need to move forward. If you had one of those businesses in Renewable Energy today, what would you like to say to them? Measure your impact. Measure yourself and hold yourself accountable to that impact. Every individual thing you can do has an impact towards net zero, whether it's a hotel chain enabling the lights to be turned off as you leave your bedroom to an organization such as us focused on Renewable Energy. We all have a part to play. Businesses should join together to make that impact together and no impact is too small. And you talked about the value of collaboration and the need to work together with others. Can you talk a little bit about some of the collaborations you're most excited about? Well, I mentioned MassMutual initially. I think those and other finance partners who really understand that they have to move their assets to a net zero impact. And we have partnered with many in order to do that, and we should continue to do that. As an organization that works so hard to get new Renewables projects going, so I think at the moment we're in a particularly interesting place in terms of the energy transition because we're seeing, shall we say, the result of numerous factors, but partly it's a kind of uneven recovery from COVID, but also partly it's actually an under investment in the energy system as investment falls on the fossil fuel side, but we're still not getting up to the speed, the levels that we really should be seeing in new low carbon energy. What do you, if you were to talk about some of the things that you'd like to see that might accelerate some of that rate of investment, what would you want to highlight? I guess it's a collaboration between governments, business individuals and the home in order to make those changes. It's the homeowner demanding, I want my power to be from a clean source. The businesses being able to partner to deliver that renewable source, and the governments to provide the policy to enable that to happen, I think is really at the core, but it does start with the individuals and their demand, and I do believe COP has had that impact. I've seen it in my own children that their school for two weeks ran their own COP, and that's in a primary school. The level of exposure I think is more, and they are demanding more, and rightly so. You've talked also about the fact this is a partnership between business and government and society, and all of these kind of things come together. Obviously, government has a key role, a key leadership role in that. They've obviously hosted COP26, for that the UK has produced its net zero strategy and various energy white paper before that. I think if you were speaking to someone from the government today, they would say they've hopefully set the direction, but there's still work to do in terms of making that, bringing that to life. What would you like to see as we move into the delivery phase, as we move faster and faster into rolling out the pace of change? Are there particular things that would help your business flow that would help the investment in the renewable sector and other areas that could be really, really useful? Simply consistent policy, consistent focus on net zero, consistent focus on businesses working together and partnering with individuals to achieve that. It would be my very simple ask, really. Absolutely. Do you think so? I think often when people talk about businesses responsibility and climate change, you hear about the role of the bigger businesses in the energy sector and in other sectors. You hear some of the kind of the hyper-operable ones, but actually, this is an agenda for all companies. How easy do you think it is for smaller businesses to engage in this agenda? I think it's critical. As I referenced, no action is too small. We all have a responsibility, regardless of the size of our business. We're a small, growing business, but we know with partnerships our reach is bigger than our size. We know that we can lead in that regard. No business should be saying just because I am smaller than another business that I shouldn't be able to make impact. It's a responsibility of us all to make that impact, regardless of the size of your business. I guess also we're talking after COP26. Were you pleased with what came after that? What are your reflections on that? Would you like to go further in at some areas? Would you think it creates some useful tools? What's your thoughts? At a high level, as I referenced, COP26 shined a light on one and a half degree problem. There's areas you could be critical of, but from highlighting the challenge, I think it was successful. I think it has had impact. Yes, we would have liked to go further in other areas, but in a two-week frame to pull everybody in a similar direction is, let's face it, is a tough task. The fact that Cole was mentioned is a positive. Others would like it to have gone further and I accept that. Others would like definite measurements and I accept that. However, we know from where we started from that the fact that we again have focused on this, and then we focused the, or I said, to shine a light on it and people to understand it, whether it's governments, businesses, and individuals, I think it's positive. It's now the concept of following through. It's now the concept for companies like us to just continue to accelerate our efforts to partner and to do more. There are some tremendous outputs from COP and we should take those and build on them and continue to accelerate and continue to go fast and keep the momentum and COP 27 needs to build on COP 26 because we do have this one last decade to give it a go. If you had a magic wand, you could get anything, maybe there's more than one thing, but what would you like to see? What could help deliver some of that acceleration? I think first and foremost to everybody to embrace, to everybody to understand we have a problem, we have a challenge. I think for everyone to listen to David Attenborough's opening remarks at COP 26 and say the parts per million of carbon in the atmosphere is the ticker symbol we should watch and we should all be aware of and from that build a plan about how we all individually, governments, business and individuals, measure ourselves against that and net zero is how graceful we are respecting the planet, is how we measure our impact and allow everybody to measure their net impact. Again, whether it's governments, businesses or consumers and collaborate in doing it. We have one single objective and let's reduce the parts per million in the atmosphere, the key link curve and see how we can do that. As well as you've talked about direct economic partnerships and so on, but what is the role for business to be in, should we say, more cross sectoral systemic partnerships? Is that important? As I said, partnering with businesses is key and I've already talked about that mass mutual has been an important part of Low Carbon's connection but we want to be part of the corporate leadership group because of that connection of businesses and governments and a focus on one common goal to deliver upon and that's why the corporate leadership group is an important team for us to be a part of.