 okay so I wasn't planning to make this episode of outside the box but I'm a pretty frustrating camper here you see I love Star Wars I'm not gonna go ahead and say I'm the biggest fan ever know all the Lord read all the books in all the movies okay well I have seen all the movies but I'm not going to pretend that I am like the ultimate Star Wars fan but what I will say is I love myself a good Star Wars game and there's quite a few that I've played over the years from Kotar even you know the nice little Republic online or whatever the online Star Wars game the MMO version one that existed for a little while I played that and I actually really enjoyed it rogue squadron back in the day and the thing is there's been like 50 80 100 plus different Star Wars games a lot of them pretty bad a battlefront was always one that I could rely on to be pretty high quality is essentially rogue squadron and battlefront and Kotar those were kind of my jam growing up for Star Wars games and as frustrated as I might be that like battlefront 2 isn't on switch or isn't planned to come to switch at this point I'm just frustrated about battlefront 2 in general now here's a caveat battlefront 2 when it's working properly and if you can ignore the micro transactions in the loot boxes is a pretty good game it's probably the best-looking Star Wars game ever it is it's got a compelling story in the campaign mode and I mean heck it has a campaign mode that's just amazing that's like a next something I didn't expect to happen after the success of the first battlefront released by EA back in 2015 I bought the first battlefront Xbox one thoroughly enjoyed it for what it had it sucked that I also had to pay $50 for a season pass and here's the thing there's no season passes time all the content updates are going to be free yes folks free of course if they're gonna give us free content updates that means that there was going to be another way they were gonna make money off of the game you know perpetually over time and that became loot boxes and it's easy enough to say you can ignore the loot boxes but you really really can't the moment the game gives you some free loot boxes it essentially takes over your menu so when you're in the menu you can't ignore that you have new loot boxes you need to go check them out and as soon as you check them out the game starts reminding you about you can get more loot boxes you do this and you can spend money on that and blah blah blah blah and there's a lot of math out there about the fact that it takes something like 4,000 plus hours to potentially unlock everything in the game if you are not going to spend any money and if you do spend money it's gonna cost you like two or three thousand dollars or whatever the case may be and whether or not that math is correct I'm not gonna bother to double check it because I'm not gonna be bothered to ever unlock everything in the game like battlefront especially when it's gonna take that many hours or that much money or a combination of both what frustrates me the most about this game are the bug reports coming out now I had a chat with some people some of our patrons about this one particular patron I should say on our discord server and they played the game and they actually enjoy you know they played it for a couple hours and they enjoyed it now they got a refund they obviously were taking advantage of that two-hour time limit on steam refunds but or origin refunds I think you have to get this on origin if you got it on PC but my beef is the numerous videos I have seen out there and even some from a little bit of personal experience now you know full disclosure I don't actually own a copy of battlefront 2 but I have played battlefront 2 played in beta and I also have a friend of mine who has a copy and I played his copy and man this should be a great experience but it's not so here's the here's the deal me and my friend beat the campaign and the campaigns I'm not gonna spoil it for you but there's like no ending to the story it just kind of leaves you sitting there knowing that it needs a free content update in the future to actually finish the story the story is completely incomplete and here's the thing the campaign itself the actual story is pretty good it's very Star Wars-y and believe it or not it's canon that was what was excited about this campaign is a Disney came out and said this campaign is canon and this campaign deals with a huge blank space in Star Wars history since they retconned a bunch of the books you know after Disney took over and it's you know what happened at the end of Return of the Jedi to what happens at the beginning of the new movies you know series out there so there's like that big blank space in there and this helps fill some of that gap and it's great it's a great story but along the way oh man along the way it's bad now we didn't have this hooked up to any video recording because this isn't a Nintendo game right I didn't plan to talk about this I didn't plan to even bring up this game on Nintendo Prime so the footage you're about to see I got from numerous different people some of the footage from Jim Sterling I know for a fact so we're gonna use some of his footage of his Jim Pression's video but there's other footage out there that I'll probably grab and I'll have you know links to every youtuber or wherever I get the footage from down in the comments will for you to go check out and you know see what they had to say and see their experiences with the game it's buggy it's extremely extremely buggy now this just talking about the campaign mode here almost every single time we got in a ship to fly you know the Thai fighters or whatever the case may be out in outer space the ship would basically just start you know vibrating like crazy I don't know what how else to describe it it's just jittery and it's definitely not because we're getting hit by anything but it's almost like we're constantly being hit by something over and over and over again at the exact same speed every single time it's extremely annoying it doesn't necessarily impact the ability for us to you know maneuver and enjoy taking out other ships well I guess it doesn't matter enjoy me because we have a ship spazzing out in the middle of the screen the whole time there's other bugs where we got stuck in the ceiling this also happened to Jim Sterling and when you're stuck up there enemies you know the rebels like D spawn and respawn it's just really funky sometimes our hits wouldn't register like it'll say destroy this stuff and you just can't do it just really really really frustrating experiences and it's really not that much better multiplayer either a lot of the same bugs happen in multiplayer and I mean it's it's incredibly frustrating that you have this $60 game or more because there's obviously you know other additions of the game that you could spend more money on or maybe you put $10 and then you got the $23 starter practical with it that just oh man it breaks the multiplayer it just kicks me out of the game basically it doesn't necessarily kick me out of like the multiplayer match but like the it gets really jittery at times I've fallen through the world which I understand falling through the world bugs like that happens sometimes but we've had this happen you know ten plus times at this point over the span of three matches that right it only took three matches for us to fall through the world ten times this game by all accounts should be one of the best playing Star Wars games ever when the game is working my god is it fantastic it is maybe one of the best Star Wars games ever and you'll get lulled into thinking that and then you encounter a bug and then you encounter another bug and another bug and another bug and suddenly your enjoyment of this story your enjoyment of all this stuff that feels like it's so awesome in this game is just sucked out of you this is before we even talk about the micro transactions in the loot boxes thrown in your face because this game is very very much built around those loot boxes but even if you attempt to ignore them or you try to take advantage of the system to potentially unlock Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker which good luck unlocking Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker without spending money it's it's just mind-blowing to me that this is what Battlefront 2 is devolved to especially after the first Battlefront game showed so much promise and I know I realized it's not the very first battlefront game but you know since they brought Battlefront back with EA and this is obviously on the back of EA closing visceral studios that was creating a largely single player no story-based Star Wars game being canceled for what's probably gonna end up being another multiplayer Star Wars game we don't know we know they also just bought respawn who's also working on a lightsaber game or something so there's more Star Wars games to come this isn't the end of the Star Wars games but Battlefront was always one of the premier Star Wars games both for compelling campaigns and insanely fun multiplayer and it feels like EA has just taken it all away now I know a lot of you guys are gonna say you EA it's just EA they do this to everything no no they actually don't do this to everything here's the thing I can almost look past almost look past the fact that it's built around loot boxes I could almost look past that but what I can't look past what I what I absolutely cannot deal with is a broken game and that's what this is it's a broken fundamentally gameplay wise a broken game and they're gonna probably fix it give them six months there'll be a zillion patches and they'll take care of this here's the thing when I played the beta for Battlefront 2 and I played it on PC these bugs existed then they're still there in the retail release people gave feedback I gave feedback and it was either ignored or EA didn't allow them the time to fix the bugs last time they excused the season DLC past $50 thing they said the reason that they didn't have all that content already in the game was because they wanted the game to come out around the hype around the new movie the Force Awakens and hey I get it that's fine I it was almost excusable because you're right Star Wars had kind of been falling out of the mainstream for some time so you want to take advantage of a massive marketing opportunity I hate it but whatever at least it was only a hundred bucks and you could basically enjoy the full game here 110 bucks actually you can enjoy the full game but here that's not the case it's thousands of dollars to enjoy the full game and that's clearly gonna make them a hell of a lot more money because there's gonna be people this Star Wars this thing this game's gonna sell in the premise that it's an amazing looking Star Wars game that's when it when it's working is one of the best Star Wars games have ever played when it's working until you hit that loot box wall and then you're like oh come on but either way it's still it's incredibly fun that campaign that campaign could be a movie that's how good the campaign is also the fact that there's no ending and that sucks like how can you release a campaign that's that good with the story has no ending are you kidding me no ending but I can believe it because it's EA and EA isn't always like this because usually EA's games are genuinely decent if you ignore some of the DLC some of the microtransactions and the loot box stuff if you take all of that bad stuff that they're clearly doing to maximize profits and you set that aside you just look at the game genuinely their games are decent they're good battlefield World War one was really really good battlefront was still really really good gameplay wise and I realize those two games are built in the same engine and you know obviously have shared a lot of similarities and one of the criticism of the first battlefront by EA was that it felt like just a skinned version of battlefield and that's fine because battlefields was fantastic so maybe that's why I didn't bother me but even you know you go back to the Dead Space series that cancel the last Dead Space game you know if you eliminate you know all of the money-making stuff the base game was still decent was it it was a lot different than the prior Dead Space games which is probably why it didn't sell as well but it was still a good game it wasn't buggy in just a big mess I play Madden every year it's not buggy in a huge mess I play games like I'm trying to do the Dragon Age series it's not buggy in a huge mess at launch that's my problem is that this isn't actually normal for EA if there's one thing I could always trust from EA even more so than Ubisoft because Ubisoft was getting a really bad reputation especially with the Assassin's Creed series it was that regardless of whatever money grubbing was in the game the actual base game was still pretty good and because of that I could overlook some of the money grubbing because hey we live in a world where you know video games the base price is still 60 bucks and it's been 60 bucks for you know way longer than it should have been inflation has made that $60 game today that when I bought a $60 game back during the n64 era the fact that games are still only 60 bucks today it's kind of ridiculous so they obviously were going to find new ways to monetize especially as game budgets have blown up and whatever it I'm not saying that I like micro transactions or loot boxes especially loot boxes that can affect game balance or have like key characters in a game like Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker in a Star Wars game locked behind it but at least I understand at a base level that video games exist to make money they're a for-profit business and I can respect that and while I hate the models currently being used all I could say is they are the most profitable models currently on the market so they're going to use them and there's nothing I say there's no amount of games I don't purchase that's going to change that fact but at least at least beneath it all I could always rely on getting at least a good game or a solid game or a playable game and in this case I'm not I really want to love Battlefront 2 I really want to buy Battlefront 2 there is it's taking every you know amount of my will to not buy Battlefront 2 because I love Star Wars that much and when the game is working I'm having so much fun but I can't do it I can't do it this is the first time that EA has done something to a game that makes it so I just I can't do it they went too far and it's not it's not the money grabbing that's the problem this time they didn't give this game enough testing time to work out key game-breaking bugs I'm sorry but then again I'm not sorry what I'm really gonna say sorry to is all of the Star Wars fans out there that really wanted this game to be the Battlefront game of their dreams regardless of the microtransactions in the loot boxes and whatever the case might be but we're gonna have to wait and I don't know if EA as much as I have trusted them with games in the past if they're capable of making Star Wars games that they're not gonna rush out the door and they're gonna allow to be bug-free or you know at an acceptable level of bugs at launch and an acceptable level to me is zero game-breaking bugs and we're not gonna pretend as Nintendo fans that we haven't had game-breaking bugs hello saving a game in the canon room in Twilight Princess sorry when you make a save there and it kills your entire say file because you can't get out of the canon room I mean game-making brooks exist Majora's Mask I remember if you say if I saved at the the gold cartridge and if I saved at the owl statue outside the boss room in Stone Tower Temple and then when I go to reload my save file it would be corrupted every single time so like that's not pretend the game-breaking bugs don't exist in Nintendo games but it's a little ridiculous in this game it's over the top and at least as soon as you learn about those bugs you can just avoid them and not save at those spots you can't avoid these bugs so I hope that if you guys are playing Battlefront 2 that you're not experiencing any of this and so my experience of the game right now played it on PC and I played it on Xbox one X I've not played it on a base Xbox one or a base PlayStation 4 any PlayStation 4 for that matter so maybe the bugs are a little bit less on the base model and the PlayStation 4 the PlayStation 4 Pro I don't know I don't have experience and I hope if you guys are out there playing Battlefront 2 that you haven't come across these same kind of bugs but damn this shouldn't happen anyways folks I'm Nathaniel of a dance from the tenor Prime and if you like this video you know what to do and if you dislike the video hit that dislike button subscribe for more content and I will catch you in the next one whoa and it's kind of a little post-editing update it appears that for launch that Star Wars Battlefront 2 will not have paid micro transactions here is what it says on their official Twitter account which is EA Star Wars it says today we turned off in-game purchases for Star Wars Battlefront 2 the game is built on your end point and it will continue to evolve and grow read the full update and it says as we approach worldwide launch it's clear that many of you feel there are still challenges in the design we've heard the concerns while potentially giving players unfair advantages and we've heard that this is overshadowed by an otherwise great game as long as the bugs are fixed this was never our intention sorry we didn't get this right we hear you loud and clear so we're turning off all in-game purchases we will now spend more time listening adjusting and balancing and tuning this means that the option to purchase crystals in the game is now offline and all progression will be earned through gameplay the ability to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date only after we've made changes to the game we'll share more details as we work through this and this game from Oscar Gabrielson General Manager at Dice so yes they they are temporarily removing the ability to purchase things and buy loot boxes they're not removing loot boxes from the game they haven't made any adjustments to how much currency it takes but they're gonna make adjustments we'll see they're obviously gonna bring back the paid system that's all I can really say but I just wanted to be totally transparent before publishing this video and letting people know that hey they at least are Dice is at least acting like they care so we'll see what happens now if only they could fix the bugs who knows yes by the way when I did play in an Xbox one X at least there the day one patch was installed so I'll give you guys a month give you a month dice to try to get this right hi folks peace out