 bothers in the minds of the lawyers and the students like their judgments and the paper books which are running into hundreds and thousands of pages so the time is short everybody has 24 hours he has to settle everything then how do we actually go about it how to understand the nitty-gritty of that paper book of 500 pages or a judgment how to come up for a cracks because the next day that has to be argued and we have to tell the real facts how to come to the main bullet point no it you see it all depends again the quote where you are quote means level of court silencing if it is a quote of first jurisdiction it may be a district court or even if it is high court it's a written petition before single jet and first time you are arguing of course at that time full liberty is given to argue the entire case it is the first court court of first instance but when it is a second court I mean appellate court division bench again LPA etc is there or if it is third final court like supreme court the you see mechanics of the I mean the games change there there's already a judgment before division bench in LPA there is already or in civil case also it is first appeal or second appeal RSA under section 100 there are already two judgments so therefore of course with these judgments the judgment itself maybe in we don't know it may be five ten pages or maybe hundreds of pages and there are other records as well so therefore it is your you have to see and again at that comes by experience and everybody knows that and there are two stages one is admission stage one is final stage so at admission stage particularly when the time allotted to you to argue the case is very less and the court has to form a view whether to admit the case or not at that stage appeal or SLP etc at that stage it is for you to see what is the point that if a two basic points it is easy but then there may be so many points in a case and you may have framed so many questions of law but then you have to see it is which question which hits the nail on the head and it is your that skill to find out that and then say that point in the first instance which may carry the day so that is the which comes over a period of time and all of you know and your senior lawyers can brief you better on this like we judges in say whether it is high court when they are 40 50 cases listed every day for admission or it is supreme court then 40 50 cases listed every monday and friday for admission and you have to read this thick files not that let me tell you very frankly if it is file of 300 or 400 pages not that we have to read 300 pages of each case we don't read that we can't it would be impossible but then over a period of time we acquire that skill that after reading two things number one the judgment which is challenged and number two the this synopsis in the beginning as to what is attacked what is the prime attack we come to know whether there is any force in that or not so likewise a lawyer also of course creation of law has to be much more than that of a judge because we are not to argue the case ultimately we when we read at home and then the case comes just to save time we read at home otherwise we hear the lawyer and then find out whether there's any because we may have missed something any lawyer say I may have an impression that there's nothing in the case but lawyer may then at that time tell me something which I had missed and I said yeah yeah this is a point which is worth consideration but likewise the since the lawyers tell this to the court it is for the lawyers to acquire these skills as to what is that point which needs to be hammered in the beginning and yes when it comes to final arguments you have at leisure you can develop your arguments on each specs but according to me what I would say that one should before going to the court mentally not only mentally even on paper should structure his case for her case that this is the judgment on these grounds I am attacking these are the propositions a b c d and on these propositions these are the judgments on proposition a I'll state these facts which are there relevant either pick up from my documents or from the judgment and then I'll say how the judge has gone wrong and these are the judgments or I have to defend the judgment then task is little easier so these are the aspects which have to be kept in mind after hearing you I am reminded I will just quote in Hindi in Mahabharat they asked Bheem Bheem Andhera hai aur tu roti kaisi khara hai to he said abhyas Arjun abhyas so according to you it is only that we have to practice and practice the more we practice the more it better becomes and another point well taken from you is as you have said that the greatness of great man is not achieved in sudden flight but it is achieved while others were sleeping the other he was working day and night