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This is why I think, and we've talked about this on the show, it's a good idea for people to, once you're good and you've got kind of a handle on your nutrition somewhat, it's probably a good idea to go through these different kinds of diets, not the crazy ones, but the ones that actually have maybe some application, just to see how your body feels and reacts and how your talent changes, you know? That's how I used to coach clients. I used to love to encourage them into just trying out different diets and just get them comfortable with running through a diet and then not becoming attached or married to the diet itself, but then starting to unpack the things in the diet that made you feel good. In other words, so you run keto and you go cut out most of your carbohydrates and then instead of being like, oh my god, keto lost me 15 pounds. It's amazing diet going like, okay, what are some of the things we notice when we cut carbohydrates out? What were your energies like? What was your workouts like? Did you notice inflammation? Did you notice cravings? Did you know sleep? Like it was starting to help them attach the elimination of carbohydrates or specific carbohydrates in this case and how your body felt. And then, okay, now let's go to a vegan diet for a while. Oh, let's go. And then slowly move them through these different diets while also trying to coach them on the things that are making them feel. What does that look like? So is it all sardines and butter? It's so hard to structure that specific diet. It's a lot of macadamia nuts, avocado. It's a lot of fatty meat, a lot of avocado, olives. I eat a lot of very well cooked vegetables to help with digestion of the fiber, butter, bacon, that kind of stuff. But it's funny for me, here's the pluses, right? I do notice a little less inflammation. And I also notice I don't get a sore from my workouts, which is kind of strange. And I always notice this every time I'll work out hard and not get a sore. I do feel mentally sharper when I do it every single time. Here's the drawbacks, right? Muscles not as full, so I don't get the pump or feel as full. And I lose a little bit of strength. I can tell when I work out, I lose some strength. It's very noticeable. Just kidding. Justin came in and said, you're weak. He's always going to dish in compliments. I gotta like offset it, you know a little bit. Compliments and stuff. What are you talking about? I did a video where I was doing something. I was actually thanking Brooke. She sent us over a nice book and some spices on my story and plugging her. And I wasn't paying attention, but it was during Sal working out. And so when I go back and hear the video, I got a bunch of DMs. I didn't even tell you this, but is that sound in the background? And I'm like, what? And I go back and listen to you hear that in the background. I'm over. Thanks, Brooke. Shout out. This is awesome. Realtor bubble. I'm doing that. Sal's so happy, but he's in the back. You know what it is? It's because I put my headphones on and so I hear nothing else, but you guys have no music out here. So it's quiet. So it sounds so annoying. Did you guys see that video I posted with the guy in the gym making the noises? The Holy Spirit guy or one before that? Oh, no. Yeah. So this guy, it all we'll have to throw it up, but I do. I was seriously dying for a couple of days. I couldn't help it. So this guy was spotting him doing a bench press and he started moaning like that. That was like the ultimate troll genius. Well, I've seen the opposite. There's a video that went viral of a like this really petite girl. She's probably, I don't know, 115 pounds tops and she's squatting like, you know, like 35s on each side and every rep, she does that like the whole gym. She's all the guys turn around. Have you guys ever had a client that moaned? Yes. What? Me too. We talked about this story. Do we have time ago? I had a Tina Turner client. She looked spot on to Tina Turner. She came in the makeup, the heels, the purple outfit, the hair, and I trained this lady and what's love got to do with it. And she come out in like the 80s, you know, spandex pants and the, the, what are those? The leg, the leg warmers. Oh, everything. I mean, pure, like straight out of the 80s and she would come in and I'd train her and we would do the hack squat and she would do the most sexual moans every rep, every rep, no matter how much weight on it for everybody. Oh dude, all the guys stop, put their weights down, they would just watch us work out. I had one of my first clients. This, I was 18 years old. This is an early one for me too. Yeah. So I'm already like, first of all, I'm 18. So I'm a kid. I'm also new and I'm trying to do a good job and I'm really taking this job seriously. And this woman with probably the biggest boobs I've ever seen in my life hires me. Now she turned out to be an ex porn star. This is true story. So she, but she was older by this point. So she was a porn star from the ex porn store moaning like this. I swear to God. I swear on everything. This is true. 100%. What was her name? Ashley Winters. That was her poor name. You remember her poor name? Of course I remember. Doug. Of course I remember. He doesn't want to pull it up. Come on. Doug's not a bad. This is the best thing you could ever Google. Of all the Googles I asked, this is the best one. Hey, you know, it's, she's hard to find, but because she did, I don't know the titles of her movie. I know, but I can't say it on the show. That's how bad they were. Remember, she was from the late, she did, she did these movies in the late 80s. So when I was educated, some of the difference between late 80s, porn to now, what's the big shape to non-shave? I don't, apparently in that, yeah, I don't know. And that area was really, in that era, I guess it was a big deal to have like ridiculously large. Anyway, so she hires me and while we're doing exercises, that's exactly what she'd do. She'd go, oh, oh, and then she said my name. Oh, Sal. While she was doing it, I swear to God. At what point, okay, at what point, I didn't know what to do. No, no, no. But at what point training her, did you find this out? Like how long did you train her before you found out she was a porn star or did that come out early? That came out relatively early because yeah, she was not, no, she's playing into it. Well, so here's what it was. So she hires me. She's making these noises. I'm intimidated. I'm 18 year old kid. Like I'm like, not, I'm like intimidated by it and I'm trying to do a good job and other people are looking at me. So I'm literally pretending like it's not happening. Yeah. And I'm literally just like kind of have to, yeah, I'm like four more reps, you know, make sure your knees are straight or, you know, fix your back or whatever while she's like, ah, you know, doing this thing, right? Yeah. So as I'm training her, and I only trained her for like a couple months, and then she disappeared. You know, you talk to your clients. So what do you do? She's like, oh, I own a entertainment agency. Like entertainment agency. Like what's that? She owned a company with strippers. That's what I'm going to say about us for now on people ask us. I know. I own an entertainment agency. That's easier to describe than what we actually do. I don't know what to say. Anyways, people, do you guys have this problem? Not to cut your story off, but I like every time I meet somebody new, I think I say something different every time. Yeah, I don't think I've been fitness entrepreneur. I like this better. Entertainment company. Yeah, I have an entertainment company. That's still, I say fitness media. That's what I say. It's very vague. But my, you know, my kids, so my, you know, my kids will say influencer. I'm like, you say that again, you're grounded. Do they really call you that? They just don't, they don't really understand. For them, it's on YouTube, you know, so you're an influencer. So you're all that, you know, and they don't understand. Yeah, they don't get the hold. I'm like, no, it's fitness media. What's the difference? No, I told you guys, I had a client that her, it was, it was like Dr. Jekyll Mr. Hyde. Like she was a massage therapist was the most chill, like mild person you've ever met. And like, when she got into the weight room, like, and she wanted to go in where all the guys were like, you know, slamming weights and being aggressive. And she would just throw it right back at him. Just really. I didn't know what to do because I knew she's put on a show. And in all the guys in there, we're just like, oh, is she punking me? You know, she's like looking right at him and everything. Yeah, I know. I think I told you guys about that. I had an older client that I trained that just, she just, she farted. Oh yeah. Like almost every rep. Yeah, she would fart. And she'd laugh about it and stuff. I'm like, all right, keep going. We're working out. I wish, you know, for anybody, I know we have a lot of listeners that are either new trainers or just like thinking about getting started. If I could go back and do something over again that I wish I would have done, I wish I would have journaled. So if you're listening right now and you're relatively new trainer and you journal, like there's just, you meet, and for lots of reasons, right? Like there's, I mean, I got tons of wisdom passed down to me through brilliant clients, you know, funny stories like you're talking about right now. Like I just think that you meet so many people in this profession that I wish I could go back and like read all these sorts. I've forgotten more than I can remember now. And do you have like early clients that you maybe only trained because my early days as a trainer, clients would stay with me for six months, eight months, maybe a year, which is still considered a long time in big box gyms. It was later on when I got good enough to where clients would stay with me for seven, eight, nine, 10 years, right? But in the early days, it was much shorter. But are there any clients that you remember early on that you still remember them? And you'd love to like run into them again. I have a couple that I just... Yeah, Tom, yeah, he was one of the big ones for me. He was one of the main clients that really helped me kind of transition from 24 hour fitness on my own and getting started in that whole business. Do you still have contact with him? I haven't talked to him in a long time. I need to actually reach out. I had a client, Wendy. I'm not going to say her last name just in case, but I trained her early on. Great client. She was training to get for her wedding and then trained a little bit afterwards and I lost contact with her. Yeah. I've actually remained in contact with quite a few, even to today. You didn't have many clients this one. I actually had probably the least amount of clients out of the three of us. You mean total? Yeah. Total number because you got to remember I was... We talked to like all of our clients. Well, yeah. I mean, if you count that by proxy, right? I trained tons of people. If you count all the trainers who worked underneath me trained people. Oh, because when you were in management, you know. Yeah. I was... I remember I was only two years as a trainer before I moved into management. Bro, I was... And then as a manager, you only manage or you only train so many... You only like two clients or so, right? Yeah. I mean, it depends on what point in my career where I had trained, but never more than 10, you know, two to 10, two to 10. So for... Maybe it'd be pretty close because I was only a trainer for four months. Then I was a fitness manager for, I don't know, eight months. And then I became a general manager. And so I didn't train anybody until I opened my studio. And then I trained clients. Yeah. It'd be pretty close. I had so many clients. It was ridiculous. Yeah. You probably trained the most. I probably, yeah. Because you were a trainer, just a trainer, longer than the two of us, for sure. Yeah. And my whole livelihood was like how many I could get or like keep servicing. And obviously, you know, I had a few, I probably had like, I want to say eight, like lifers that have been with me since the very beginning, never left. And then it was, that was a hard kind of, you know, conversation once we started doing this. But yeah, I was always a constant, like, how do I market myself? Like, how do I get in front of people? And I got in front of a lot of people. Technically, you're probably the better trainer of the three of us. Yeah. I mean, I already knew that. Probably, yeah. He's the best. That's what his wife tells him at least. You know what he has, honey? Honey, come on. You know what, I have a positive reinforcement. Two of my most, I guess, impactful success stories were two people who became trainers themselves full time. So they hired me and they had no interest in, they were not fitness fanatics. They just wanted to work out like everybody else. And then they ended up becoming, one was a kid. One was a kid that actually started working with me because he was insecure in school and his parents hired him, hired me to train him. And he built so much confidence. He became a trainer, later on became a manager, did his own thing. And then another one was when I opened my studio, her name was Nicole. She was the first client that hired me. And then later on became a trainer in my facility and then, you know, doing it on her own now. Those two always stand out because those are cool stories. I had a client that was actually, I got her in the best shape of her life. She was post breast cancer, got her the best shape of her life at 50, convinced her to do Bikini show, totally something she never would have done, did the bikini show after that, told her that she has what it takes to be a trainer, got her to get certified. She got certified later on, her and I went into business together. So the boot camp business that I've talked about on the show before, we actually were partners in that, in that the original business that I started, did that for a couple of years with her. That's great. Speaking of partnerships, and you know, people ask, sometimes ask business questions and say, you know, how do you find the right partner in business? It's, I think you should pick your partner like you'd pick your spouse. That's literally like how important it is that you pick the right partner. It is a relationship the other day. Because you can be friend, I don't know if it didn't work out, obviously you're not working with her anymore, but for me, I've had partners before. And it's, I've had a lot of, I've had a quite a few partners actually, I've had quite a few partners. And I'd say 50-50 on having a relationship still with them after it ended. So out of half of them bad. That's true, yeah. Half of them bad. Half of them bad. The other half just didn't, wasn't the right time. Like for example, I was in business with a trainer that Justin knows. We worked with Ronnie. He, we were at a place where he wanted to go in the direction of franchising and I did not want to do a franchise. So I'd rather build it myself. And we agreed to basically disagree on that and say, okay, well you go off and go do your franchise thing. I'll continue doing, building what I want to build. And no hard feelings. It was just, we split in a different way. So we'd been still friends, I can start off, but then I've had other ones where, you know, there's a sour taste in my mouth about how it ended and stuff. I think, God, you can almost make the case that it's harder than marriage. It's just because there's money involved and the failure, like it's, okay, businesses fail more than marriages do. That's true. Okay, so business, so you're getting into a relationship that has a much higher chance of failure in the first place. And then I think it carries all the same important things, the qualities as far as having to be able to, the synergy, right? So if you have to have that type of synergy, you have to want to make it work too. When you don't like that person and you're like, it's like, I'm not married to you, so I can always bounce. Right. So yeah, I would make the case that it's... We don't have sex. That's heavy news. What kind of business... And that's like, you know, makeup sex saves lots of marriages, you know what I'm saying? So we can't do that business. How do we replicate that? It's bad, it's bad for a while for us. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yeah. Adam calls a meeting, hey guys. It's been a rough week. I know it's been a lot of yelling. These sorts of things close off there. This has worked in my relationships. I just have a proposition for you guys. We're not doing that here. Let's end up seeing what happened. Dude, have you guys acquired this new superpower of when you get old? Like so my joints can predict the weather. Oh, you got one of those though? Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude, my ankle has just been talking to me as of late. And every time it talks to me, hey, we got rain. The rain's coming. Is that why I saw you walking funny? Yeah. What are you doing with this weird marching? I know. I was trying to get some response from my ankle and so I'll just start stomping my foot trying to get things to grab on again and get some connection. Do you think you're an old washing machine? Oh, if you hit it, it'll start working again. Kickstart it now. Like do I have to wear new shoes? I'm trying to figure this out. Because I do mobility, I do all the things. Besides all that, put the Juve light on it. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, great idea. I always like, again, this is another one of those things where it's there and I got to figure out a way to consistently put it in front of me. For the joint pain? Yeah, dude. What's the theory on that? Oh, it reduces inflammation. Okay, so the way that some of the red light rays work, they actually penetrate pretty deep. So if it's a joint that's like the ankle, right, there's thin skin. There's not a lot of fat. I know he's got cankles, but they're pretty lean. He's waiting to find the jam. There it is. There it is. Cankles, cankles, cankles. I was waiting. Yes. But the red light will go far enough to get the mitochondria to produce more ATP and to reduce inflammation. So I did it on my, I don't, I think this one's called the golfer's elbow when it's on the inside. It actually helped. Now I combined it with stretching and everything else. Yeah. But it sped up the process and I would just put the light on it every single day. Oh, interesting. I haven't thought to use it like that. Well, that's why that's how they got the, isn't the NFL using them that way for recovery? Yeah, but I'm thinking more like ligament though, like a torn ligament and the recovery of that because it speeds up the regeneration of the mitochondria, right? So that's, that makes sense to me, but I was, when you refer to it for like a joint issue, that's where I was kind of lost on the angle you're going, but I get it for the inflammatory. Yeah. So I've gotten DMs from people who use it for neck pain in particular. So they'll put it on their neck. Interesting. And they'll notice that it, you know, it helps. The biggest, most profound change. Magical, dude. I don't even know how you can explain the science of it. The skin part is pretty remarkable. When Jessica uses it regularly, it's actually profound. Like within a couple of weeks, it looks very different. You just have to use it regularly. That's the only thing. You can't do it like once. Yeah. And then speaking of DMs, I have a DM that I'd like to read to you both right now. Oh, I'm taking a face. It's actually, I just, I just, you know, you just got me to go, oh, that's right. Adam, you're the best host. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I don't share those with you. There's too many of those for me to share on the podcast. Come on. Okay. No, the reason why I'm going to share this one, because this is the second AI kid that's going through school for artificial intelligence. This guy has his masters in the, in that. It's because they're students and they can't really figure it out yet. Hey, hey, Kate. So shout out to Stephen Williams. He is the second student that has reached out to me to shit on your theory and argument. So the ratio is what, two to five minutes? Here we go. Oh yeah. But you get some regular house like kid who's just DMing you like plastic robot arms and be like, oh yeah, show Adam this. Bro, Elon Musk. I've got the students that are actually going through artificial intelligence right now. You're already cleaning. So listen, hi, Adam. I love the podcast. I've enjoyed you and Sal disagreeing about the robot height recently. I'm currently studying artificial intelligence as a master's student. Thought you may be interested to know that we are a lot further away from intelligent robots than you would think. In fact, I'm not convinced we can see functional robots within our lifetime. Artificial intelligence is an excellent at solving very specific problems, but lacks common sense or versatility. It would take far too long a message to fully explain why. However, you might want to tell Sal to calm down with his hype. A few examples of the limitations. Imagine you were out with your robot and you drop your wallet. Somebody asked you if you lost your wallet and you tapped your pocket to check. Your robot would not have a clue why you tapped your wallet. This is a big issue as it means without implicit instructions, robots or AI systems are unable to make decisions from a very basic common sense. This is very similar to what the other student was talking about if it had a scratch on the plate. Let's go back to our three qualifiers. Thank you. Because I knew he would do this. He just changed the context of everything. Yes, he just changed the context of everything. So it has to be able to wash a dirty dish and put in the dishwasher. That's it. That's it. Okay. I'm not talking about self-aware programming it though. Yeah, but no, it's not. That's the problem because it won't know the difference. And that's what the other student was talking about. It won't know the difference between a scratch or dirt on the plate. It'll keep trying to keep it clean or paint. Unless you program that in. Right. That takes a lot of programming, which is a couple years away. You've got to think you have dirt that runs this way. You can't program it in. It's not going to be a robot that's self-aware, singularity style. It's going to clean a dish like your dishwasher will. So that means one out of every 50 is going to have a little bit of room. The truth is that something as what you guys think is dumb and simple as doing the dishes requires more common sense than actually landing on the moon. That is more technical and precise and can be programmed where something like washing a dish, knowing if it's dirty, is that food, is that paint. That takes common sense, which the AI lacks there. And your guys' argument has been. People keep trying to send you guys bullshit. These are just random people. The two people that I've had that have messaged me, these long old messes regarding this, both are in school for artificial intelligence. But they're students. It's all confusing. I wish there was like a little, little like emoji or something of like, add on like digging. Me digging. You know, you are digging. Hey, when the robot is washing dishes, it's a basic robot that washes your dishes and puts it away before commercial flights to the moon are happening. We are going to take all your argument. The pre-qualifiers for that is they're literally taking a common person like you would take a flight to Europe. It's going to be a montage video of all of all these things that you've said with music in the background. It's going to be so great. I don't know. I like it. It's good. Well, according to my artificial intelligence students that are going through this stuff, it might not happen in our lifetime for your argument. So I don't know if mine's going to happen either. So we'll never have this montage going on. Hey, we'll continue with our grandkids. Listen, make sure I win the bet and we'll die. I just, I don't, I think that it's as simple as it may seem. It's a lot more complex because of the comments. Yeah. That's every, that's all, that's all AI stuff. Yeah. And that's like, they, We haven't seen them take over like on any industry yet. Speaking of AI. So I read this very fascinating article. There's these, I can't remember who it was, but it was a pretty high ranking scientist who wrote this kind of letter warning companies and saying, look, we're going to get to the point where AI algorithms are going to be able to hack humans. Okay. So hear me out, right? They're going to be able to, they're going to be able to read all, they're going to know all the decisions you make online. They're going to know how your body, we don't like if you're sweating. Yes. How your body physically reacts, things that you're not even aware of, to things that you see, articles that you read, things that you do. It'll know how to trigger certain emotions in you. It'll know you better than yourself. That's why the camera's been on this whole time, the two-way camera. It's been looking at you. Right. So it's going to hack you so well that it's going to manipulate you and you're totally going to deny that you're being manipulated or that it's even having control over it. Give me an example of what you're saying right now. Okay. So an example would be this, right? So, and this is kind of a silly example, but it's- Like all your tells? Well, so it's like this, right? Hyper palatable food, right? We've engineered food to be so hyper palatable that obesity is now so common that a majority of people are obese. Even though we know we're killing ourselves, because what we've done with this food is we've essentially hacked our systems and people can't help themselves. Or it's like drugs, right? Drugs can be so appealing that it just, your willpower and discipline doesn't necessarily help you. So what are you saying? That they'll be like an alert. So like my, this AI will be able to go like, Adam, you're overeating, you're overeating, and give me an warning. No, AI will be able to read and trigger you so effectively through many different means that it will be able to hack you to the point where it'll get you to manipulate you. Yeah, it'll make you- I know, I'm still looking for the example. What, give me an example of what you're saying right now. Let's say it wants you to buy a product or a political party wants you to be upset. Okay, so how would it go about doing that though? It knows what you like, what triggers you, find like an image or something for you to look at. Things that cause your pulse to speed up or slow down, your pupils, it knows how the human brain works. So it'll put all these things together so perfectly that you'll be manipulated. So you'll read an article and it's a combination of things. Here's something, see something, see a different color. It'll hack your systems to the point where you're gonna be like, man, I'm just pissed. We need to do this. Not realizing that there was AI. Yeah, the only thing I could think of is if you're on social media and it presents a series of articles, videos, pictures that put you in a certain state of mind that makes you 80% more likely to buy a certain thing. Right. That's the only thing I can see it on. I don't see any other thing. But think of it to the next level. It'll always be consumer driven. So think of it to the next level. So think of it this way. So they're pretty good at it, right? So they know that they can, if you're on social media often, they could probably get you to move in a direction, let's say 70% of time. Take that to the next level. Maybe it's a song that they could throw on top of it and it's a color and it's the way that it's presented and the speed that it's presented and the article that follows it up by hacking into your emotions and your physical body. I mean, we're kind of already doing that. You're right. That's why we advertise. It's been a grand experiment. Yeah, social media is a big part of that. This guy's saying that AI will get so good at it that we're going to literally get hacked. That we'll totally get hacked. So which one of you guys looked more into, I figured out of the three of us, that would be more likely you two than me, looked more into the Facebook meta thing. Oh yeah, I read a bunch on that. So is it like what we've talked about or speculated as far as this living in this virtual word, the unplugged, plugged thing I've been saying forever, is it like going to be like that? Yeah, so the example was that we spend, like even now today, we probably spend 30 or 40% of our time interacting with humans online. Whereas before it was never. You never interacted with humans digitally. It was always in person over the phone maybe and that's about it. Now it's like 40% of time. And it's getting the point where the younger generations are more concerned about their appearance. Right, their avatar that they mold and make unique in terms of how they're going to personalize. Yeah, so the metaverse essentially will be where you'll do everything that way. Almost all your interactions with other people will be online. Whether you're going to the gym and it's virtual and where you're going to the store and you're picking out items, you're talking with people. And so that avatar, that whole situation is going to be how you spend most of your time and that's what they're essentially talking about. So I know that's going to be weird. Well, yeah, it could be weird. They've been speculating on what they're going to do because when they acquired Oculus a long time ago, I was paying attention. I'm like, I wonder how they're going to use this for games or like they're going to throw this in the platform somehow. But I'm sure he's using that platform now to kind of create this whole virtual way of conducting business and it being its own commerce. It's only going to be weird for us old fuddy dutties. Everybody else is going to... They're already doing it. Yeah, like your kids are already getting closer and closer to that, right? So it's not going to be that weird for them. Well, I stand by this, dude. Like I've said this before, but what sort of the Sims and World of Warcraft and all this kind of stuff, like I swear to God, it's already like now, like the reality is becoming what that was, in terms of them being able to create themselves, have everybody call them whatever they want. Like it's just, you just make up your character. Well, like you look at my kids, right? My son's 16 and now he's starting to go out and meet up with friends. But still, if you add up the time that he spends with friends in person versus the time that he spends with friends online, it's still mostly online if you compare the two. And that's quite common. I was talking to him the other day about like cars. And I was like, hey, what kind of cars are you... He's a 16 year old boy. What kind of cars are you and your friends into? He's like, we kind of don't really don't care. And you look this up and you see that... And there's a point to this. You see that kids are getting their driver's licenses later on later, really don't have interest in that because it doesn't mean the same thing because when we were kids, getting your license and having a car meant you could be with your friends. Yeah, you're access. Yes and no, right? I think more what plays a bigger factor in that is that owning a car is expensive. Car payment, gas, insurance, using an Uber five times in a week is not expensive. And it still allows you the same freedom. A 15 and 16 year olds ain't using Uber. You have to be 18. What? Yeah, you can't call Uber if you're 16 and get an Uber. Yeah. Who told you that? You can't. Doug? I think sound might be right. Your daughter doesn't use Uber? No. Yeah, you can't use Uber unless you're 18. What? I have never even heard that. Yeah, no. Or you can't open an account with a credit card on it. You have to be present with an adult to use it. I have never heard that before. Is that true? Yeah, anyone under age of 18, they will not pick up. No. Wow. Yeah, it's too much of a liability. Yeah, it is a liability driver. Here's the deal though. Even if they could, they're online. They're playing games with each other in their headsets. It's all virtual and getting a car is not that big of a deal or getting your license is not big of a deal because, oh, I hang out with my friends at night when we put my headset on and we talk to each other and I see his image. That's why I don't think it'll be that big of a leap, though, too, for them to be plugged in completely. Yeah, I know. It'll look very appealing to them. Because it's going to be cool for them where us will be like, dude, you're getting more sucked into that, so. I know, right? Awesome. I know. I watched that movie, I just watched Free Guy, finally. Oh, you did? What a smart movie. Yeah, yeah. Very, very intelligently made. That was a fun one. Yeah, really fun, funny, smartly made, intelligently made. I liked that one. I thought it was a cool, yeah. I watched it with my daughter. She thought it was blue shirt guy. I liked the jacked version of it. Hell. Who are you? Catchphrase. Hell. I'll juice to the gills. I know, it's pretty funny. Anyways, so what's this rumor that I heard? Have you guys heard about it? So President Biden went to visit the Pope at the Vatican? Oh, God, is this real? Did he really shit his pants? That's the rumor, dude. He's getting trolled right now. Nobody, he didn't really shit his pants. Come on. Listen, who knows? It's been getting worse, though. His speeches have been getting worse and worse. It just seems like he's. I hate talking about that type of stuff. He's early stages of dementia. Well, I don't either. Because you're no better than the people who were just three years ago that hung on everything that Trump did. Well, did you see that? Talk about his policies and the shit he's not doing. Sure. His dementia is shitting his pants. Like, that's all. Well, no, dementia is legit. Look, here's the deal. If you watch the guy, you watch the guy. He's got early stages, especially if you knew him before. He's been in politics for so long. Doesn't matter. He's not making any decisions anyways. He's not making any of the decisions. They never are, you know what I'm saying? There's a bunch of people that are pulling strings that are doing stuff, so. That's true. I don't like getting all cut. That's identity politics. You know that better than anybody. Well, no, that's not identity. That's literally saying your commander-in-chief might not be a sound mind. He's incapable. Did you see him at the climate change meeting or talks or whatever? And he's like sitting there. And he's falling asleep while he's listening. I can't consume anymore, dude. I can't consume anymore. He's the president now, so I'm rooting for him to be better as much as I possibly can. Poor guy. It's sad, but it's like, dude, that stuff sucks so much energy from you. And I've seen so many of my family members and close friends in the last three to four years. I've never seen so much division over the political climate. Ever, dude. Never. Speaking of division, did you hear about, so Michael Myers from Halloween? Yes. No, I haven't. So Chris Delia did a little spoof on this. You haven't seen this yet? No. There were some people that were saying that. There was articles written about it. Homophobic because... He killed the gay couple on the newest Halloween. On the last one, yeah. He kills everybody equally. That's the funny part. That's the funny part. If anything, he's not, like, slowly inclusive now. Come on, what's up? Yeah, exactly. Like, everybody's on chocolate. It cracks me up that people get up in arms. When he's a murderer, he kills people. But here's the challenge, though, okay? Right away, my other side of my brain goes, okay, this is great marketing. So if you are the makers of Halloween, okay, and then you have hopefully a Blockbuster film going out. Yeah, and we know that this goes viral faster than anything to make this stupid fake outrage stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if it's them who leaked the story to start with. Well, or it's five people on Twitter. Yeah, exactly. And they get a share because it's ridiculous. Right, one or the other. You know what I'm saying? Like, either one, they staged the story themselves, so people just start talking about how ridiculous and stupid it is. The other point, it's always like, they don't want this to happen. It's like, who's they? Yeah. And then you go back and it's literally like a group. And you don't even know if they're foreign actors or they even live here. That's why I'm so careful now to jump on something, anything like that, that gets your blood boiling or get all emotional about it. It's like, you know what? Like, don't be fooled if it's the actual people that you think you're supporting by fighting over that actually put out that negative news just to get you talking about it. It's like the protests that happened at Netflix over Chappelle. It was like a dozen people. Yeah, right. There was like a dozen people there. So it really wasn't that big of a deal, but it made so much news that it makes you think that it's a really big deal. You know what? Speaking of, here's, you have to be that way with like everything now. It's crazy. You sent over an article this morning, yesterday. Well, I screwed up with Disney. I'll admit that one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was that one. They did not buy porn though. They did not buy porn though. Hey, real quick. You sent over there. Sorry about that. Well, real quick, Adam, because he said Disney, did you see that they shut down in Shanghai and quarantined like 34,000 people because of one COVID case? You guys see this? What? So Disneyland in China in Shanghai, there was one COVID case, 34,000 people quarantined. They have to stay in their hotel rooms for two weeks for one case of COVID. Wow. Crazy, right? That's a lot over one thing. That's pretty insane. Anyway, so I want to hear what you say about that. No, no, so I wanted you first to share because when I'm like, I read a lot of stuff right now related to like real estate and the market and what's going on. And I do my best of actually following people that are on both sides, people that think that the sky is going to fall on us anytime soon or the bottom is going to fall out. And then the other people that think that trees will grow to the sky, right? So I do both so I can get kind of a balance. And I saw, you sent over an article somewhere that I had already read like two days before. In fact, I sent it to Doug on, was it Friday night? I sent that to you? Friday or Saturday night when I sent you that article about the Zillow? Oh yeah, I saw that. So I had sent it over to Doug already and Doug was like, you can see like, oh my god or what, I was like, calm down. And I was like, no, you know what's interesting about that? So basically what it says is that Zillow is, they had this operation where they were buying properties and then flipping them at a... Well the headline says Zillow sells off 93% of its properties for a five to 15% lost in what they bought. So it makes you think, oh my god, the market's crashing. But really what it is is that they were testing out this algorithm that could find the best houses to buy and flip and they just went into it hard and apparently the algorithm didn't work. Well, so what it is is that, okay, so Zillow is one of the largest home buyers in the United States. So they are buying homes like in the hundreds. So imagine, I mean, you guys know what it takes just to sign the deal for one house, the process, the headaches, all those things you have to go through. Imagine doing that on a scale of hundreds, like the amount of systems that you would need in place just to be able to do that. Well, one of the things is they had software that would predict where this based off of where the housing market was, where it's going. And so they needed to, and because it's so competitive right now, which we've dealt with this before, losing all these deals, they need to, they need to get past all that bullshit. And so they knew, oh, we could overbid on all this house. And again, get it now, save three to four weeks on haggling back and forth, losing possible deals. We know we'll make it up when we put $20,000 in construction, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever, right? Well, what ends up happening is that they were so aggressive on all those deals that they won all their deals and instantly get flooded with two, 300 properties that they didn't necessarily all want, all overpriced on a market that's kind of starting to slow down to flatten a little bit. And so they're selling, they're selling off a bunch of these and they're selling off as a loss. So you have some of the people that think the sky is falling, going like, oh my God, Zillow, one of the biggest real estate buyers is selling off hundreds of homes. They're actually selling them off for a loss. They see the writing on the wall that is, the crash is coming and they're willing to take- That's some indication of- Yeah, but the truth is they're worth billions of dollars and losing a few hundred thousand dollars is a speed bump for them to- Apparently this is something that they've had in place since 2018. Yeah. And what I read was is they have this algorithm that they put together that was supposed to, according to them, accurately predict the best house and the price they could pay and how much they could make. So essentially they were trying to hack real estate investments, right? But it didn't pan out. Yeah, what it didn't pan out was they actually, they won all the offers because they went so, the algorithm was so aggressive and they started overbidding. And what was happening in this run right now is you've had people, a lot of these people are putting their houses up. And this is what we kind of seen right now in the last, like if you pay attention to real estate in the last six months or so, there's been this kind of what people think are flattening or we're starting to see the go down. And a lot of that's not. Every realtor in all the states that I talk to people, they're like, all it is is that everybody was making so much money in the last two years that you started getting people, they put their house up. Like, well, my house is only worth 1.5, but let's throw it up there for 1.7, see what happens. So everyone started just way overpricing their houses. And then you have a computer that's just supposed to read and predict all the numbers that it's seeing. And then it goes, oh, let's overbid all that. And so they got stuck with all these homes that they way overpaid in a short period of time. So this reminds me of how forever people have been trying to put together an algorithm that predicts the stock market. Because if you can find an actual formula that will predict investments that way, you're the sky's the limit. You're a biff from back to future. You're a trillionaire, right? The problem with that is that both those markets are dependent on people's emotions. Correct. And trying to predict that en masse. It's impossible. Good luck. Yeah, you could be great. And both stocks and real estate, you can be very calculated to minimize your risk. But lots of things don't make sense. But yeah, a lot of times it just doesn't make sense. Even like something like this, that's why I wanted to talk about the Zillow thing. Because that Zillow thing could actually trigger a bunch of people to get scared. Forget that it's based in any real logic of what's really happening in the market. But it's enough for people to go like, oh my god, biggest people they see it's happening and then oh, and everyone's pumps the brakes. But a lot of people at one time pumping their brakes could cause the dip. Now, there are ways that you could theoretically game a market. Like Zillow's got enough purchasing power to where they could go into a market and make everybody think that the market's going up and then flip their houses. But that would be illegal, right? You've seen that in the stock. Well, forever we've seen that in the stock market with these pump and dumps. I think they actually already do that and get away with it a little bit. You'll see like, and I think Zillow and Redfin or some of these that they both are like this, where they might own 70 of the 200 homes in a small kind of rural area. And so easily they can manipulate the rents and the housing. And I don't know how much of it is technically illegal. Yeah, I was going to say, how legal is that? Yeah. I mean, you would think it would be illegal, but I also don't know how that they... Interesting. I'm going to go again. Just think about that. You let's say you go into like a growing town, right? So let's say like Fort Worth, right? So you go into Fort Worth. Let's just say just these are five of the medical numbers. Don't try and hold me to this exactly. Say there's 500 homes in this kind of suburb, right? Or whatever that's a growing suburb. And pretend you're Zillow or Redfin and of the 500, you control 200 of those homes, which they have the power to do something like that. And then what's to stop them from inching up on all two or none of the houses $100 of rent on all of them. And unless you're in a state that has rent control, they could legally do that. And that's happened. So that's happening, I think, with both Redfin and Zillow in some of these areas where they kind of dominate a neighborhood. That's really interesting. I know. Yeah. All right. So I wanted to bring something to you, Adam, because I thought it was absolutely harris. So the previous episode I had on YouTube, I had asked people to try to guess what your terrible idea was. Oh, God. Okay. Which I'm not going to reveal. His idea is so bad that I can't even say it. Dude, people are going to have such fomo about this forever. But you know what's funny? I read the comments and the majority of the bad ideas that they thought were. One of them was, Adam wanted you guys to get to smoke, weed or drink alcohol before the podcast. Like, we've done that. Do they forget? Okay. This is how I know we have a lot of new listeners on YouTube because that's what we did for the first year, at least the podcast. There was no convincing the constant button just. It was on air. It wasn't even before the podcast. It would be on air when we do it. And you can hear it in the podcast, by the way. But I was reading those comments and I was. A lot of people were asking, or someone made comments about my voice really changing. And I thought maybe it was like, raspy because of the smoking and do so that. And I forgot Doug reminded me. He's like, don't you remember you used to come straight over from Orange Theory where you were yelling in a class for like four hours. And I was like, oh, that's why. Your voice would crack a lot. Yeah, it's right. It would crack. And it was all raspy. Four more. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, Brandon. I forgot a little about that. But like, dude, your voice, hell, would change. Fail the burden. Keep running aimlessly. Keep showing harder. Show up at his training outfit. All right, guys. I'm ready to podcast. All right. Whoa, man. You've been screaming. Dang, dude. You're energetic. Did you, did you guys see the big acquisition that just happened with body armor? Oh, wait a minute. So who bought them? Is it Nike? No. It was a big deal. It was a big company. Yeah, it was actually the largest acquisition ever at $5.6 billion. Oh, dude, when's the last time you even heard of body armor? Like, I know that they existed when I saw them. But I'm like, I've never seen them anymore. Did you know that Kobe Bryant was one of the first early investors? Shut your face. So his 400 million. Wow. So it just sold at $5.6 billion to Coca-Cola. Wow. And that's that whole Gatorade market. So Gatorade and Under Armour is not even the biggest player of all the energy drinks, right? You have Gatorade. And what's the other big one that I can't think of the name? Powerade. Yeah, Powerade, right? So Powerade. But it's body armor, not Under Armour. Yeah, it's body armor is the drink. Am I saying that right? Thank you, Andrew. Yeah, yeah, it's body armor. You've seen it before. It's like the red and black. Yeah, I know it's $5.6 billion. But I haven't seen it anywhere. I didn't even know it was popular. Where? Me too. $5.6 billion. That market's interesting. That's why, I mean, a lot of people don't know this, but we invested in LMNT. We think that they're going to probably... Superior product. Yeah, we think that they're going to... Well, it is. It's a better product in a space where, obviously, there's lots of room for... And it's palatable. That's what sells, by the way, sports drinks. It's taste better. It's more, it's superior. And more sugar. And they've got it. They're getting it in the hands of... Once it starts getting in the professional athletes, which that's where it's at right now, you'll see. So it's exciting. Yeah, I thought you guys would really like that. Yeah, that's interesting. Since that's in a similar space. So I guess we could do the math. If it's five billion and you got 400 million, what does that mean? What was the estimate? So he had... Is that about a million? Doug, let's see if he could do that. He had about a million invested in it. Well, you saw Pathwater got into Whole Foods. Yeah, that's right. Yes, there was another big one. That's really cool. Another company. Did you get that math, Doug? I did not get it. Come on, Doug. So we threw it too fast. Dude, we're drilling this earlier this morning. What happened, man? Oh, yeah. Math problems. Yeah, no, I thought that was pretty exciting. I do have to throw out there. I was driving back from Paso Robles and got to listen to all of the Juul episode. I heard that was amazing. They're the best podcast I've listened to. Really? Yeah. And it's main... Obviously, because she has an insane story and she's just such a positive force. She does all this stuff for depression, anxiety, and has really actionable steps to sort of take over and take charge of your life again. And it's very inspirational, but her story is so insane. It takes you through so many twists and turns and her rise to success. I would not expect that. You know, you're like the people that came after her and family members that stole it. You're like the fourth or fifth person that I've heard said it was the best podcast ever. And she's so articulate. I had no idea. She's so well-spoken. And honestly, it was a ride. The whole episode was amazing. You ever watched her Yodeling videos when she was younger? No, but I mean, I've been a fan... Like, I enjoy her music just because I know she sounds like a legit artist. Crazy talented. But yeah, she's always had it. But then she disappeared, right? She just... Well, yeah, when she gets into that too. She was making, selling a million albums. Back when he had CD sales and all that. A million albums a month for an entire year. Wow. Which, you know, like really something. This was for like 15 to like 20 bucks. Yeah, yeah, I like her. What's one of her songs? Come on, Joyce. You will save yourself. Oh, there you go. She's way out of my range. I wanted the name. You didn't have to sing it. I know what I was thinking of that I wanted to bring out because we're talking real estate stuff. That's what was on my mind. Uh, Mark Anderson buys the most expensive house ever bought in California. He passed Bezos. Bezos bought the one for 160-something million. $177 million dollars. Malibu house. What the hell is in the house? It's on Malibu, dude. So it's the property more than anything else. So it's like probably a big chunk of land that's right on the beach or right on the face of the water. That would be so weird to live in a house like that. Well, you know what's crazy is that once they say, Doug can do this math for us. Because what's California property taxes? $1.56 or something like that, Doug? Is that right? How much are you going to owe? Yeah, like a month. Like even... That's what people don't realize with something like that. Are you... Let's say you have $200 million. Let's say someone gave it to you. Yeah. You'd have to sell it. Yeah, you can't... Right. Like say someone bought it outright for you. You still have to pay the property tax on that thing. A property tax on $177 million, what's the... At least $1.7 million at 1%. Well, yeah, that would be at 1%. At 1.7. That'd be more than that. Yeah. So probably 2.5. So if someone gave you the house, we better sell this real quick. Because your monthly payment on property tax would be closer to like 20-something thousand. Probably more. That's rough off my head. $20,000 a month. By the way, that's Mark Andreessen. Oh, I thought Anderson. Mark Andreessen. What is he? Like he bought it from a fashion mogul, dude, right? And I don't know what he's... Is he a VC? Yeah, fashion mogul. Yeah, he was... I think he was started with... Was it Netscape? That was his first thing. I'm not sure. He's an investor. Yeah, he's a VC guy. Yeah, but he's been around Silicon Valley for a long time. Yeah, and he bought it. But he did the big news for it was because that's the most expensive house ever sold in California before. It would just feel strange to live in a house like that. I wouldn't feel... I don't know, it would feel weird. Oh, it's so good. Oh, it would feel real good. Yeah, it would fucking feel real good. It's kind of like kingly. Where's the kids on the East Wing? All right, call them up real quick. Have them take an Uber to get to the kitchen. I mean, you would have to have an insanely amount of money always coming in in order to do that. It would be hard. You couldn't just be worth 300 million. You need a staff of people to help you manage the place. Exactly. It's not just property taxes. What do you think his freaking gardener bill is? Right, right. House cleaning and all that stuff like that. Yeah, no. His housekeeping is probably thousands of dollars a month just to have someone clean your toilets. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, constant. Yeah, forget it. 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If you head over to masszymes.com, that's M-A-S-S-Z-Y-M-E-S.com forward slash mind pump, and use the code mind pump 20, that's mind pump two zero, you can get 20% off your purchase. All right, here comes the rest of the show. All right. Our first question is from C. Greenwood 32. What are your thoughts on the raised heel squat for quad development? Oh, I love it. Absolutely love it. If you raise your heels by placing them on something like a block or you wear squat shoes or anything that raises the heel but a stable, it increases knee flexion and extension and reduces the activation at the hip. So it's more quad focused than it is glute or hamstring focused. And in extreme case, you do something like a sissy squat where you're actually pushing the hips forward as you're doing this. But it's a great way to hit the quads. Like try doing a front squat with your heels elevated. Well, that's how we used to do. I mean, before, I mean, you're really the person that introduced me to sissy squats. I didn't even know, you know, what those were. But that's how we used to really try to like get more activation of the quads was to get our heels up on these blocks and then do front squats, heavy loaded. And we do that, you know, in programming for football as well. Justin's like, I ain't doing anything that says sissy first. Yeah, I'll do sissy first, man. I'll put my heels on a block, but I ain't doing an exercise called sissy anything. That's right, masculine squats. No, I think you just, I think it's, what's happened is squat shoes have become trendy. And so you see a lot of people wearing them to squat, thinking that that's the way you're supposed to squat. At least that's what I see in the gym. Like I see a lot of people that they're not wearing a squat shoes because they're like, I'm trying to target my quads. They're like, this is what they do. They saw Olympic lifters using them. They thought it was cool and they brought it in. Right, to be fair though, right? Squat shoes will raise the heel, but it's not going to raise the heel as much as you would. If you're really, like if you're doing a goblet squat with your heels elevated, you're going to elevate your heels more than you'll get in a... Yeah, you'll raise them higher. That's just like trying to compensate for the lack of ankle mobility. Yeah, that's a little more. And you are getting more quad activation, but when you're elevating your heels, you want them elevated a little more when you're doing like a heel elevated goblet squat or a front squat with your heels elevated. But I think it's great. I think the quad targeting exercise that used to be super popular was a leg extension. There's a little bit of value to a leg extension, but it pales in comparison to doing some of these other exercises. Oh, especially that. Sissy squat or like a goblet squat with heels elevated, you're going to get a much better quad pump than you will from your leg extensions. Yeah, especially if you understand how to focus on the quads on the descent and at the top and really squeeze the quads. Like, if you do a goblet squat with your heels elevated with your feet relatively close together and you really focus on the descent and feeling your quads and then you come up and squeeze the quads hard at the top, it fire. Maintain tension a little bit. You'll get a crazy, crazy quad pump. Not to mention it's, again, it's more functional than something like a leg extension. You know, and I know some people hate to hear that, like, oh, the functional word. There's a functional word on everything. It's like you're more likely to be on a hill and have to squat down in the squatted position than you are to be in a seated position and never have to kick your leg out. Right. I mean, it's that simple. So, getting strong in that position is not only probably better for quad development, but also just overall movement and just real life that there may come a time when I'm picking my toddler up and I'm on a hill and I have the ability to do that with good strength and good control, you know. Next question is from Justin Lee. What are your thoughts on Mike Mencer's heavy duty training? Change your life. Well, it actually was a very profound book for me, but it was just generally in the whole muscle-building world. So, he's the intensity one, right? Is that right? Yeah. So, a little background, right? So, Mike Mencer was a bodybuilder in the 70s, early 80s, and he was, you know, he never won Mr. Olympia, but he had a very commanding physique on stage, very smart, kind of cerebral guy, very different. And during that time, the bodybuilding training was all about volume and frequency and angles. Arnold dominated bodybuilding at the time, so everything was about 20-something sets per body, part double split routines. And Mike Mencer comes out and says, no, in order to trigger muscle growth, you just need to do one all-out high-intensity set of weights or resistance training. Send the signal, leave it alone, right? And he got this from Arthur Jones. Arthur Jones was the inventor of Nautilus Equipment, you know, the famous experiment he did with Casey Viatter that we've talked about on the podcast. And so Mike Mencer employed some of these techniques and built a great physique. He just, he took it too far. You know, on the one hand, you have a volume as king. On the other hand, you have, no, it's all about intensity. And they are inversely related, right? The harder you work out, the less volume you could do and vice versa. But neither one of them is the full answer. And I learned this through trial and error and through, I even did this on my clients. I actually would have clients do heavy-duty workouts because I was going through the period of kind of like experimenting. And you'll see them progress and then stop, just like with almost any other viable training. That's the real magic behind all of these books, all of these methods of training is that if you've never trained this way before and then you go do it, you may see incredible results like you've never seen before. But it's not that method of training, why? It's because the novelty of that. And if you go do that forever and consistent and then read a different book that has competing type of theories or ideas around training, you're going to see incredible results again. And that was, it took me over a decade to piece that together, right? Because I fell into that trap. You've tried some at work. Yeah, oh, high reps. Oh, it's low reps. Oh, it's going to failure. Oh, it's like, oh, maybe what it is is that I've been doing this all the time and this is so different than that. So my body adapts and responds, okay, now I've been doing that for a long time. So damn near anything else, but that is going to show me. And so that's the real lesson is and understanding human behavior, how we get caught into doing this trap of the same stuff all the time. Well, it definitely ups the risk and the risk reward. So it's sort of balance with that. And you do see success from that, but then there's that thin line of like, now I'm flirting with a risky type of a method where you see this sort of resurface. I don't know if you guys are familiar with those ARX machines. So it's like basically mechanized resistance. And so they try to really intensify one rep. So you do each phase of the contraction and they add more to the strength curve within those. So it's like basically it's like cables. You're pushing as hard as you can. You're holding for as hard as you can. And then you're coming back in descent as hard as possible. And so it's like, the whole thing is like, all intensity, short amount of reps, but they're trying to sort of solve the issue of it being such a riskier type of modality. But again, it only lasts for so long, before we're gonna need to expose the body to something else. It oversimplifies muscle adaptation or the adaptation of building strength and muscle. They say it's all about intensity. And so if you just go intense enough for one set, the trigger or the wheels are set in motion, then you just step away, allow your body to recover and you should be able to build muscle up until you reach your genetic potential. It doesn't work this way. You can over apply intensity as well. And by the way, volume and frequency also contribute to muscle. Otherwise you wouldn't see mechanics with muscular forearms. Why do mechanics typically have muscular forearms? They never go to failure. It's a lot of volume, a lot of frequency, right? Now I'm not saying that's the only answer either. It's a combination of them. And you have to kind of move in and out of each of them to get your body to continue to respond. But look, even if we were to use bodybuilders as the example, the vast majority of bodybuilders out there train with more volume and don't go to failure all the time. There are a few that do. Like Dorian Yates kind of trained this way, right? Mike Menser trained this way. There's a couple others. There was something called DC training that kind of was similar. I mean, Mike Menser went so crazy with this at one point that he would train people with his typical style, which was one all-out set to failure per body part and he would have people work out two or three days a week, that was it. Then when they would stop responding, you know what his answer was? Less frequency. Okay, then it means you need more recovery. So now I'm going to give you 10 days between body parts and then 14 days between. And it just, it didn't work. It stops working. Now do you, I don't believe that any of these guys that wrote any of these books only train that way either, right? Do you think Mike Menser only trained that way that he wrote in the book? Or that was like a phase or a thing that he did or that he talked about it because he was marketing and selling the book? But then he probably actually trained a lot of different ways. I don't think it's sustainable, yeah. Yeah, I don't think so either. I think that happens still today. You see somebody mark it an idea and it's like, oh, that's brilliant. But I don't think they do that either. They use it, oh, I've got this incredible physique that I've built. Now let's write a book around these few things and it's like they are not just doing those few things. You know, I used to think that and I think to some extent, that's true. But then there's this other side that, you know, when you read about these people, you see me in interviews, like Dorian Yates did train the way that he said he did for all of his Mr. Olympia wins and he would literally do a few exercises per body part, one all-out set to failure, and that's it per exercise. So for back, he'd do like three exercises. So three sets of failure and that was it, which for pro bodybuilding terms is super low volume. Now here's my explanation. I think that there's genetic variances between individuals that sometimes makes people respond exceptionally well to intensity, so they can cut their volume way down, use intensity, and it just works really well for them. And then I think there's people on the other end of the spectrum and I think there's people with frequency that are like that as well. So I think that there's general truths, but your individual variance might make you work a little better one way or the other and I'd also don't think it's permanent. I think as your body changes and your age and circumstances change, then what works for you before may not work for you as well as it did before, but this particular theory at the time or this book, it came out and it was so different and so radical against in comparison to what everybody else was saying, that it didn't gain popularity. And it's probably because people all did high volume and so they said, let me try this out and then, oh my God, it totally works. So it kind of blew up, but I do think there's some truth in what he says. I just don't think it's the all-out answer. And by the way, the best studies on resistance training and building muscle shows that going to failure is too much intensity most of the time and that one set to failure or one hard set versus three hard sets for beginners is usually just as fine, but as they get more advanced, more volume tends to produce better results. And so we do have these general truths that we've already shown in studies and this heavy duty style training is probably not best for most people. Next question is from Marco Arcega. What are the top 10 essentials for building a home gym? Damn, 10? I don't even know if I have 10 at my house. Yeah, I don't know if I have 10. I think we should list some of the essentials. And we're done. Let's make the list here. A squat rack, we all agree. Yeah, barbell, dumbbell, squat rack, adjustable bench. Well, I think you're done. That was too fast there. I know. Would you say barbell? Barbell, dumbbells, adjustable dumbbells, or multiple dumbbells. Plates obviously go in with the barbells. I would assume that counts as your 10 essentials comes in there. Flat bench, incline bench. Adjustable bench, right? You need both. So you can do everything. So you can adjust, right? So you can do it incline or flat. You said barbells already, plates. Dumbbells, plates. I mean, if I'm going to add to it, I mean, maybe an easy curl bar. I mean, you don't... You just name my garage gym that I've been working out. Trat bar, yeah. I've been working out like that for the last 15 years. I don't even have the easy curl bar. I literally have a barbell, plates, dumbbells. Would you say? A hard curl bar. Hard curl. Not easy, man. I mean, I would say this, though, to start. If somebody actually asked me this in person, I would say, all right, number one, what form of exercise do you enjoy the most? Because we have to start with that, right? You're most likely to be consistent. Like, if you like suspension trainers, and that's your favorite way to work out, then that's going to be number one on your essentials. That's crucial for me. Well, to me, that's okay. So I have a suspension trainer. That's under... It's $100, or what is ours, 97 bucks or some shit, right? So it's under $100. You can have that piece of equipment, and that can hang in there. That could be one of your 10 easily. Yes, yeah. So I think that should compliment almost any gym, because even if you're not a big suspension training, like training that much, I think the priming aspect of it, and rehab stuff, and the low intensity, I think, doing that at France. And I'll be the weird one. I got to have a macebell, and I got to have a kettlebell, like at least a pair of kettlebells. If I have a limited to two, it's got to be at least like two, 55 pounds. I could at least do a little bit of dance. And since they said 10, you could throw a sled in there, and then you're pretty much done. But it's funny because there's always this home gym equipment being sold, and the newest, latest, greatest piece of equipment. But it's honestly, literally, if you got a squat rack, that was stable. I mean, PRX is I think one of the best, and it folds into the wall. The barbell, the dumbbells, adjustable bench. The vast majority of people that I could possibly train, for most people's goals, you're done. And by the way, and I think we're answering it this way, because it says essential, because I don't think we think there's 10 essential things for lifting weights. If you said what are your 10 favorite pieces of equipment in there, we could probably list off some things like Viking press, and then we'd probably add some things that we really like now that might go in that 10. But man, you can definitely, I mean, most of our programs, you can run on four pieces of equipment or less, you know, as far as you don't. Even if you just had like four sets of dumbbells or something, you know, you could do a lot of damage with that. Oh, I used to train, sometimes, well, I used to do this all the time, because clients would love it. I would train clients with one pair of dumbbells, or I'd train them with like a couple sets of bands. Today, our whole workout is going to be done with bands, and they would get a phenomenal workout, and they loved it because they could see that we could achieve so much with such minimal equipment. There's a huge myth with fitness, especially with resistance training, that you need all kinds of equipment. And that's because when you go into the gym, what do you see when you go to the weight area? Yeah, that's how they sell you on the membership. You've got so many pieces of equipment. Oh, there's the chest area, there's the back area, there's the shoulder area. Oh, cardio, you just need a bike. And the truth is, when it comes to resistance training, you don't need a lot of equipment. It's actually very inexpensive, and you could do everything. You could train everyone. And there's so much variety. Look, I tell you what, the Arnold Schwarzenegger Encyclopedia Bodybuilding. Okay, that's one of my favorite first, you know, exercise books. 90% of the exercises in there are free weight. And there's like 10 exercises per body part, all free weight based, all phenomenal. So that's pretty much all you need. Dude, I'm getting crazier. If you just threw me in the woods with an axe, like I'm going to town. You're going to build a house. Yeah, yeah. Chop it, you know, lift the rocks. That's all you need, man. Like Rocky from Rocky Four? Yeah, exactly. Next question is from George YRX, myths and facts on apple cider vinegar. I'll tell you the truth about that stuff. It's great for baby back ribs. That's your secret ingredient. I used it last night. So I was making ribs last night, and I actually used that to hydrate the ribs. So that's all I use it for. You know what it's, you know what it is it? Is it got some health benefits? Yeah. But it's got right. It's nothing special. It's not like some miraculous. So for a second there, it was like super popular. It still kind of is it's become, I don't know who started it. Was it a Tim Ferriss, Ben Greenfield type of biohap thing to have? Everybody wants one thing. Two tablespoons. To start their day off every day, right? To set your gut right and balance it out or some bullshit. Like that's been like the trendy thing to do. Yeah, it's got some, I guess some antimicrobial properties. And but you know what though, if you have for some people I know who have gut issues, it's terrible. Like for me, if I have apple cider vinegar on an empty stomach, it's gonna, I'm gonna have a good time. Oh really? It messes you up. It does. It does feel good on me. So I have taken it before like that where I, because I'm trying to remember where I saw that first. But it's not like, it's not noticeable. It's not like, oh my God, that's all I had to do? There is no, there is no miracle food. You know what, I'll use another example just to kind of illustrate this. For a second there, remember the acai berry? The, it grows in the Amazon. And goji berries like, oh my God, they're so incredible. They're chock full of antioxidants. One degree different than a blueberry. It's just exotic. It's literally like the same thing. Did you know that? You know the truth is, blueberries is better. No, acai berry became one of the, okay, they made... It's because we didn't know what it was. Nobody remember really used it. There was like a few places in the world you could find these acai berries or whatever. And you had companies like Monovey and some of these that bottled it all up and promoted all about antioxidants and tried to claim that it cured cancer and all these people. And it's like, literally you could go have a half pound of blueberries and get the exact same benefits. You want to know what's funny? Here, okay, this is true now. Again, there is no miracle food, but let's just say that all the common foods that we eat now we're not familiar with and we just discover them. So scientists just discovered all the common foods that we eat and they stumble upon the chicken egg and red meat. You know what those two foods would be labeled as? Superfoods. Red meat literally could sustain you and provide you with every single essential nutrient. Now I'm not saying it's ideal, by the way. Okay, so let me back up for a second. I'm not saying you should just eat meat. I know there's people out there with the carnivore diet, whatever. No, that's not ideal. But what I am saying is red meat will, you will not, you'll probably not have a nutrient deficiency and you'll survive for a long time or maybe forever. It's part of the essential macronutrient classification. Yeah, same thing with eggs, like a perfect protein and the yolk is chock full of all these incredible things. But because we're so familiar with these foods, I couldn't come out and say, you know, steak, the super, like everybody's like, well, I eat steak all the time. Just like I couldn't come out with blueberry juice and sell it like they did with the side juice. Doug, aren't you an apple cider vinegar guy? I did a long time ago, but not recently. Is that what it is? Is it supposed to just promote good gut health? Isn't that like the big thing from it? I mean, yeah, and they'd say it's anti-inflammatory and you know, you could just like extend your life or something like some crazy thing. No, I didn't know. I think people use it for dieting as well. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's just, you're probably just drinking more is what you're doing. Is it considered like a prebiotic or anything? Is it following? No, it's got some antimicrobial properties. So it could kill, you know, certain bacteria. Bad bacteria, right? Yeah. And it's supposed to populate good bacteria, kill bad bacteria. That's all it really is, right? Yeah, yeah. But it's not, again, there's no. Is it that much different than eating fermented food? Is it that much? You know, regular vinegar, I think is kind of similar. So regular vinegar, balsamic vinegar, it's got some health properties if we're going to compare the two. Right. But you know what it is, is what they'll do is and they'll do this often with foods, is they'll take one thing and then they'll extrapolate and add like, oh, okay, so the antioxidant capability of this is this and then they'll, you know, then they'll say, oh. That's what they do with the ascii berries. Yes. Because they took out that like, oh, these super antioxidants and they go, well, what are antioxidants good for? Antioxidants are good for X, Y, and Z. Therefore, this juice helps cure X, Y, and Z. Exactly. Like, whoa. Yeah, you don't want to know what this is. You don't want to know what the shitty truth is and this is backed by lots of studies. Here's the shitty truth and I know it's a lot more complex than this, but if you're eating in a calorie deficit, a lot of what you eat doesn't really make that big of a difference. Now, I know that people are going to hammer me for this and I totally admit it's a lot more complex than this and what you eat determines how you feel and there's essential nutrients and essential macronutrients. I get all that, so I'm not, you know, saying that that's not true, but like sugar is a good example. High sugar diet where your calories are below maintenance. You're at a weight loss diet that's high in sugar. Guess what that sugar does to your body? Nothing. It doesn't do to your body what a high sugar, high calorie diet does to your body where you see all this inflammation and, you know, increased, you know, cancer risk and all that stuff. So this is true for a lot of things. That's like Glain's number one mission is to get that message across to people. Was that in the context of low calorie, all this bullshit that people try and say about stuff. Does it make that big of a difference? Raises insulin and this is the cause of obesity epidemic and coke will make you fat and sugar will make you fat is like, dude, and if show me a study that shows you in a calorie deficit, all those adverse effects that you're talking about from those foods. It doesn't and there's scientists that will do this on themselves. I ate a fast food diet and I lost 30 pounds and improved all my blood, you know, markers or whatever. Now, here's why it's more complex. It's going to make your appetite. You're going to be hungrier. You're probably going to feel like shit. You're going to crave more food. It's not sustainable. So there's a lot more to what I'm saying. Yeah, and you can't tell me that. Okay, let's say you have your calorie maintenance is 2,000 calories, right? So calorie deficit would be 1,500. Okay, so if you're eating 1,500 calories, someone eats 1,500 calories of a balanced diet, proteins, carbs, fats from Whole Foods, versus someone eats 1,500 calories from Mint Chip ice cream. You can't tell me that the person that is eating the Whole Food diet is not going to have other health markers or other benefits that the person in the calorie deficit. Yeah, of course, we're this. You got to still have your essential nutrients and all that, of course. But I'm saying, let's say you have two diets that are below maintenance and calories. Okay, one of them is 150 grams of carbohydrates. The other one is 150 grams of sugar, which is also carbohydrates, right? So both carbs are the same. One sugar, one isn't. If they stay that way, you're not going to see that much of a difference in terms of the person's health and stuff. Now, how they feel, I will argue, is different. You eat 150 grams of sugar. Yeah. Your appetite's probably going to be a little bit different up and down. Your energy might be a little different. And that's important. We should consider all that. Well, and also for cravings, too, right? That's what I mean. My point, though, is that there's this whole superfood thing. Now, there's definitely foods that don't have tons of value, except for maybe the palatability. Right, right. Like, I can argue that. Watermelon versus avocado. Yeah, or a Twinkie, you know? Like, it doesn't have calories, but I mean, what other value? But this whole superfood argument, a lot of it is just they'll take something that a lot of people don't use that seems exotic, and then they'll spin it and market it and sell it to you. And because you've never used it before, because it sounds weird, you know, it's the goji berry. It's noni juice. It's whatever. Now, you're going to want that. Now, that all being said, I don't see there's any no harm, no foul in you taking two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in the morning. If it makes you feel good and you notice it makes your gut feel good, it's a very inexpensive product. Or you can just hydrate your ribs, like I do with it. So what do you do? Soak them in it and then... Well, yeah. Like when you do a long smoke like that, like every hour, couple hours, I'll go in there and I'll hydrate the meat so it doesn't dry out completely. And apple cider vinegar is really good for that. Just the apple and the flavor mix really well with it. That's all. Aside from gaining 20 pounds of muscle, I didn't notice anything on it. Anyway, just kidding. Look, if you like our information, head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out all of our free guides. We have guides that can help you build muscle, burn body fat, improve your health, get a better squat. We even have guides for personal trainers. You can find that again all at mindpumpfree.com. You can also find all of us on Instagram. So Justin is at Mind Pump Justin. I'm at Mind Pump Salon. Adam is at Mind Pump Adam.