 Do I know how to use these ear pods? No, absolutely not. But am I back from vacation? Yes, in California. And I've never used this kitchen behind me. But listen, if Robert Sala, if Joe Douglas, if Mr. Johnson want to stop by, I can whip up some pancakes so we can sort this Aaron Rogers thing out. Lots to talk about. Let's do it. Chris Collinsworth, Gronk on the show. Back people. We've got Chris Collinsworth on the show. I woke up this morning. I got back from Salt Lake City, and I have to charge my phone because it's gonna die. He used me. And Chris Collinsworth is like, I'll come on and talk about some of this stuff that's going on. And am I wearing sweatpants today? Yes, because I'm working from home. And we love that. So it's the off season, but it's not. There's so much going on. And so much we have to talk about. So we will have, hey, we will have Rob Gronkowski on the show as well. Will Aaron Rogers be a jet? Will little more jets can be a jet? I don't know if he's gonna be a raven. It's looking like it though, with that tag. So yesterday was as wild and dramatic as I can remember. People were stopping me in the airport to ask my thoughts and these implications. So let's first set the table with the guys who got the tag, with the non exclusive exclusive, all of it. Know what happens with Mark Jackson? We'll dig in. St. Karn Barkley gets tagged well done by them. Get a lot of kudos to the Dianne's Josh Jacobs, friend of the show, Tony Pollard, Evan Angram, Duran Payne. So let's start with this Mark Jackson one because we have to dig into the situation a little bit more. It was, you know, the tag wasn't a surprise, right? That's where things have been trending. Negotiation sort of broke down, but the non exclusive tag is a little weird because it means that Lamar is given some freedom. He's given the ability to go and negotiate and try to reach a deal with somebody else. And then the Ravens have a chance to match. The Ravens, you know, having a little confidence here that they'll be able to match or that nobody's going to make that deal. And if Baltimore decides to let them walk, Lamar's new team has to send them to first round picks. So to me, this means, or what it should mean is that there's a great chance that we see Lamar rocking another uniform next season, right? That was what would make sense. You know, if I'm the Panthers, for example, I'm the Panthers, I'd give up two first round picks and a heartbeat for a 26 year old Lamar Jackson. I would break him off. But to everybody's shock yesterday, there were these reports that, you know, a bunch of the teams, and you'll take a look here. I think Field of the Gates treated them out and I couldn't believe this. There's five teams that have been linked to Lamar that have come out and said, or at least told insiders, we're not pursuing negotiations with them. Almost immediately, Falcons, Dolphins, Panthers, Panthers, Raiders, as you're seeing here, they're out of the running. The Dolphins I get with Tua, but the four other ones, those question marks at the quarterback spot are staggering. They are glaring. And then it leaves the Jets, it leaves the Colts, it leaves the Texans, as really the only obvious quarterback needy teams going into 2023. So it's really strange and I don't wanna conject and there's a lot of that going on. I'm really curious to get Chris Collins or thoughts on it, but it's even weirder when you stop and think about the following. The Broncos, they were super willing to give away two first rounders last year. And then some for Russell Wilson, who's nine years older than former MVP Lamar Jackson, and then they made him the second highest quarterback in the entire game. The Browns, I mean, they're an anomaly and everybody hates that they did this and maybe that has something to do with this in the fallout with guaranteed money and all of that, but the Browns were super willing to surrender, not one, not two, but three first round picks and gave the biggest fully guaranteed contract in history to someone who a lot of you don't think deserved it and certainly was in the midst of a huge investigation. So you're telling me not one of those teams would be willing to give up two firsts for Lamar? I don't get it. Where are you guys at on this? At Up and Atom show. And by the way, it's not out of the realm of possibility that one of these teams do step up and take a big swing for Lamar. And I think if anything yesterday taught us that, you know, there's a lot of theories out here. Maybe we should just let it play out and see how it goes. But something weird is going on. All I know is that I hope that the former MVP gets money and is happy and gets the stuff that he has earned and definitely deserves. But we'll talk about the collusion part, all of that as we see it unfold. Giants quickly. How to boy giants? What am I supposed to say here? New York media, all of that. I worked in it for so long. Avoid the drama. That's what they did. There was all this lingering drama. Is Daniel Jones ever gonna put a ring on it? Yeah, they did. They said, baby, I love you. I'm going to K Jewelers and I'm gonna spend the rest of my life with you and at least the next four years for $160 million. And they did it a little dramatically down to the wire as men always wait the last minute to make things happen. But I do think that there's legitimate questions he has to answer. They took a gamble. That's what it did. First of all, they had to get a deal done with him so they could do what they wanted to do, which is smart and franchise-safe Juan Barclay. He was there MVP last season. He's what makes this thing go. And he sort of ensures that this ensures that he's not gonna get to go anywhere when they try to work out something long-term for him or get a win with him on this tag. Now, $40 million sounds aggressive per year, but it's the state of the business. Like this is the going right people. Salary cap's been ballooning. And this is what guys get when they're up for an extension. Look at Derek Carr. He got nearly 40 million a year. Gino Smith got $35 million a year and both of those guys are seven years older and have fewer wins than Daniel Jones. So there is a risk here. And they're not paying him for what he did last year or what they saw last year. They're paying him for what they think he can do. But they're saying, listen, this is a 25-year-old quarterback. And I think he can build off of this season with Dayball. And yeah, there's an unknown collection of receivers. But he did, without that, led New York to its first playoff win in over a decade. So you're paying for what he could do for you. And Shane and Dayball, I thought, well done by them. And they made it clear, shut up. We believe in our quarterback. We put a ring on it. And it's Instagram official. And I do want to say this. Seeing that Daniel Jones made me realize this. Brett Veach and the Chiefs, and I've treated this yesterday, I was like, obviously. But what a masterclass by Veach and Company with this Patrick Mahomes extension. Everyone, and you look at what these quarterbacks are making, Kansas City hasn't locked up for nine years. Sure, he'll renegotiate at some point, and he should. But he's just the fifth highest-paid quarterback in the league right now. Super Bowl champion two times. They can $5 million more than Daniel Jones and Dr. Matthew Stafford. So there was a lot of work that she's doing handing out half a billion dollars to a 25-year-old. They're not gonna be able to keep their roster intact or get anything done. Veach and Co bet on what we all know is going to happen. The cap blowing up, and they look like geniuses now. So the moral of the story is pay your quarterbacks early. And I'm sure Chris Collins' worth coming up here will echo that sentiment of borough and the Bengals. Please, Bengals, go take care of Joe now. Go take care of Joe and get it done. And quickly, I don't know much to say about this, and I'm sure Chris does. Aaron Rodgers, this budding romance, this off-season fling going on between the Jets and Aaron. Nothing is imminent, apparently. Rodgers is looking at his options. The insiders yesterday were all, they're on a flight, and there's graphics being made. And then late last night as I was getting back into town I had to turn into, oh, we don't really, it's kind of happening, it's kind of not, we don't know what's gonna happen. So with the Jets, Derek Carr was theirs if they wanted him. And it's nothing against Derek Carr, he's a good quarterback, and the Jets would be a playoff team with him. I'm saying that to you, that's what I think. But the point is that they could contend with Derek Carr in their center. Was this a good idea to pass up on Derek Carr at the chance of upgrading yourself with Aaron Rodgers? You're not competing in this league to be good. You're competing to win it all. So I recognize that, the Jets certainly recognize that. And I would just say that I like that the Jets are even on the plane. It is hard to do that. It is hard to fly across and get in front of the, the griller of the guy and say, I'm just a griller guy in front of you wanting you to play quarterback for me. It is hard to do the courting process, especially with a character like Aaron Rodgers. So just the fact that we know Aaron's not washed, he's ready to go, he wants to play again. And we are seeing this Jets brass, the Johnsons and the, you know, the Salas and company and Joe Douglas, that they're making the moves cause they want to contend that they say, listen, we got Garrett Wilson. We've got Breeze Hall. We've got a top five defense. We have his back. He can do big things in New York and we want to do big things in New York. If they pull this off and they bring Aaron Rodgers to New York back on that plane or otherwise, this could be one of the most successful roll dices that we've ever seen in this league. And I just love it for the Jets and that fan base who's super excited. All right, I'm super excited because we got to get out of here. Chris Collinsworth is on the program. Chris, Aaron Rodgers, where's he going? The bagels. Chris Collinsworth and Rob Bronkowski. Our first show backs in Super Bowl week. Welcome to Up in Adams. I didn't go into the studio today cause I was like, oh, I probably won't have any big guests. And now we have one of my favorite guests. Rob Bronkowski will be on the show later, but right now we are joined by three time pro bowler and the award winning analyst and the mastermind behind something we love over at Fandall Pro Football. Focus, Chris Collinsworth, how are you? Yay, what's going on? Lots is going on. Do you want to dig right into it? Because it is bananas. Well, can I ask a question of you first before we get on? My wife is telling me that I have to throw away my favorite pair of jeans cause they've got, you know, you know how like the kids wear them and they've got a couple of little ribbed things and one's actually broken out into a hole. So at what point, at what age do you have to throw away your favorite pair of jeans as opposed to you can still kind of look like you're at least trying to be hip and, but mostly they just kind of fit. You know what I mean? Do you have like more than one pair of jeans that actually fit or is it just one? Because I've only got one and she wants me to throw them away. I got a lot of clothes, Chris. I don't have any sentimental value with clothes because I have so many, I have to, there's a couple of questions though. How long have you had the jeans? Probably since college. No, I don't know. Like four or five years, I'm guessing. Are we wearing the jeans right now? Are they like your lucky jeans? I need to know a little bit. Yeah, but I can't stand up there. That would be like, it would be on every internet site. That would be every meme. I can't do that though. I thought about that. But seriously, you gotta throw them away. Can't you like patch them or do something normal? Well, you're talking to someone who not long ago, here in LA, went to the Polo Lounge wearing holes in my jeans and they wouldn't let me in for lunch. And I was completely embarrassed and Jim Ursay was watching this happen. So I am someone who is a fan of holes in jeans. I am more though, a fan of keeping your wife happy. So she says they gotta go, they gotta go. In LA, they wouldn't let you in a place? They didn't let me in. They didn't let me into the Beverly Hills Hotel. I said, I don't wanna eat your $90 burger here. I'm getting out of here. And I left, they gave me the option, Chris, of buying pants. Go to the gift shop and buy some pants. I had a buddy of mine one time that had the same situation. I had only shorts. Went in. The only thing they had on were women's pants and the story was kind of a skinny guy. Put them on, zipper in the back. We lost our minds. Like nobody noticed it at first. And I like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. It was brilliant. It was brilliant. I can't believe you've had jeans, the same jeans since college. That says a lot about it. No, that's not. I've definitely gained a little weight since college. You got a little tan going on. Have you been on vacation at all? Yeah, yeah, we went, we've been out in Longboat Key, Florida, which is fantastic, you know? We have a great time. We got a little trip to Italy planned this during the summer this year. Got a big wedding. My youngest daughter, Ashley, is getting married here at the house. So the house is under reconstruction. So anytime you want me on a show, just let me know cause I can hide in the basement now. And I don't have to feel the guilt. Well, I love that. I'm going to Italy as well. So maybe I'll run into you in those holes in your jeans with your beautiful family. Oh, very good. What kind of a father-in-law? What's yours? Are you a tough, tough dad? Tough dad? No, no, no, no, no. Both these guys I love. I mean, he's actually a film producer, director or whatever. Wow. He's all those deep things. But yeah, he's out traveling around doing films and TV shows and stuff like that. Jared Bradley, so you're here on the road. You're doing another one of your movies with you and Gronk or off doing your things. Then just keep them in mind. Yeah, Gronk is coming on the show here in a little bit. Now, somebody that you might have wanted as a son-in-law, many would say because of your commentary about him is Aaron Rodgers because he's the best one of the greatest to ever do it. He's amazing. We love him. We love listening to you talk about him when he's out on the field. And now we have all this stuff going on with him and the Jets organization and Brass being out in California. How does this play out to you? I think there are going to be a lot of people interested in him. And I think for Aaron, if I were advising Aaron, it would not be about the money. I mean, the money's set, right? I mean, somehow or another, I'm guessing Green Bay is going to have to pay part of the deal. And that probably won't make him too mad anyway because he'll want to, you know, whatever. But I think that like Tom Brady, you pick your spot. You know, Tom Brady went into it and he knew if he were in the South that he could come out. Probably had to be, you know, the New Orleans Saints in the process in order to be able to get into playoffs and move on. He did that. He, you know, was in the playoffs a couple of years, won one Super Bowl and that would be the only thing that I would talk to him about. If I were his agent, if I were his whatever, I would say, where are you going to Super Bowl? I mean, the only thing that's not on the resume is that second Super Bowl. So you pick where you think that is and believe me, I'll go make a deal. And you know, I mean, it's, right now the NFC South is still about the same way that it was before, right? You go in there, you have to be Derek Carr. And there are some teams that are looking for quarterbacks there right now. So I don't know that what I think matters in the slightest, I'm quite sure it doesn't. To Aaron Rodgers, he's going to pick where he wants. New York is going to be fantastic if they make the playoffs. But, you know, knocking off Buffalo and Miami in that division is not going to be easy at all. So he's got some decisions to make. Well, where does, you know, I'm going to believe Aaron and Aaron goes on Pat McAfee and he says, I want to win a Super Bowl. That's what he wants. That's where he wants to go. I'll, Tom Brady. So where does he have the best chance of winning? Is it in New York or is it Green Bay? New York or Green Bay? I think it'll be a different decision for Aaron. I think he's a guy that is a very proud guy. He's a very proud guy. And it'll come down to does he really believe that Green Bay wants it back? Or does he really believe that Green Bay has decided it's in their best interest to move on? Because he said to us a million times, it's not really my decision whether I'm in Green Bay. It's their decision. And so I, and I trust him with that. I think that that's exactly what he believes and that he probably, when he went off to think about it, that's probably what he was thinking about. You know, do they really want me to finish up or is it in Green Bay's best interest that they move on from me? And if that's the case, do I still want to play? And do I want to finish my career somewhere else? We've seen that not work out so well for quarterbacks at the end of their career. We saw Tom Brady win a Super Bowl, which really sort of validated all that we ever believed about Tom Brady that he did it somewhere other than New England. So, you know, there is a lot to think about here for Aaron and it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. I would do what you're not suggesting, but what is the easiest path? The NFC South sounds great. Like, Alana, what's going on? Like, I would want, but sometimes I think these quarterbacks don't think that way. Like, if that's, you know, Sean Payton goes to Denver, or, you know, where you have to contend with Patrick Wilhelms, like, you know, the craziest, most talented guys usually don't go the path of easiest resistance because they think they're better than everybody. That's entirely possible and it's entirely, you know, conceivable. So, let's put them in a couple of different places. Let's put them in Tampa. Hey, they're right back in the hot, believe me. We're doing three games on Sunday Night Football in Tampa, which is all right with me. That's right where I live, too. How about in Carolina? How, you know, they're looking for a quarterback or you're going to draft one of the guys in the, in that position. They've got a great defense. They've got some players outside. I mean, go right down the list because wherever Aaron Rodgers lands, people are going to want to watch that. You're going to sell a lot of tickets. You're going to create a lot of interest. You're going to, you know, so I think that we're only beginning this process with a couple of quarterbacks and the national football league right now. Well, you know, you mentioned those NFC South teams, the Jets and one of these teams also that had interest in Lamar Jackson, the Jets still do apparently, but a bunch of teams don't after that non-exclusive tag was put on. There's a lot of opinions on this. What do you think is going on? I actually think the Ravens are brilliant with what they're doing because remember, Lamar doesn't have an agent. He's doing this himself. So at some point they're telling him, and this is the hard part about when you're your own representative, at some point they're telling Lamar, we can't do a fully guaranteed contract. We're just not doing that. You know, you haven't finished the last two years. You've been great when you've been playing. You've heard all the arguments. They did, you know, we love that you run and that you do all that, but blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But we can't do a fully guaranteed contract. I mean, at some point that was the conversation. So now what do they do? They put this non-exclusive tag on them, which okay, they throw them out there to the market if somebody does the fully guaranteed deal, right? They get two in return. There aren't gonna be many teams and this is becoming obvious now. They're gonna be interested in doing that fully guaranteed contract, which is all they do. And if they come into the mix, it's something less than that. And they can get it at 50% guaranteed or 60% guaranteed. Then guess what? The Ravens match the deal. So it's not them being the bad guy. It's letting other people set the market. And then when he comes back, they get a choice. So we would rather have two first round draft picks from that team, or would we rather have Lamar? I'm guessing they'd rather have Lamar, but they haven't had to force the negotiations on Lamar at something less than the fully guaranteed contract that Deshaun Watson got. I think it's shaping up so that Lamar returns and is a Raven next year. And then we'll see if he plays on the tag or if they get something done. And there's also something about those quarterback needy teams. And I don't think you should always consider your fans first, but the resources it takes to go to Lamar, negotiate with him, the salary cap, decimal points, moving like, that can be exhausted if you know that you can, and there's not a lot of teams that can do it unless you front load a guaranteed contract for them. So the Ravens made this play. And I just think also, if all of a sudden you hear the Panthers are negotiating with Lamar, like the fans get all excited. And then you've got like all, you know, you're a week behind or two weeks behind on what other people are doing to secure the rest of their roster. So it's definitely a lot to think about, but people are saying that there's some, you know, incahout stuff going on with NFL brass against giving out fully guaranteed contracts. You think that's BS? I would be surprised just because there's so much liability in collusion. I mean, if you're talking about having a back conversation and something as public as what's going on with Lamar right now, man, you're setting yourself up for some major liability. And I've already read some things this morning that the Players Association, whatever their phrase was, will be keeping a close eye on this one, right? So I mean, this is, I would be very, very surprised. They all have great legal teams. And even though I'm sure that none of them particularly liked what the Browns did with the Sean Watson, it is a major, major liability to come out and put yourself in a position where you even remotely had a conversation with another team that went something like, hey, we won't pay him the fully guaranteed contract if you don't, right? That one just is not happening. That one is, that one would be stupid. Speaking of stupid, Giants fans, some of them think that it's stupid that Daniel Jones got all that money, which I think is crazy, but he got four years, 160 million, that's 40 million-issue a year. Is that outrage justified or did you see something in him that you think was enough to bet on him for the future of the Giants? Well, they made it to the playoffs, so that's pretty good. And I thought it kind of came out about right. So, Kate, I mean, I know how much you love math, so let's do a little math here, right? So at $200 billion, which is where the salary cap basically was when Patrick Mahomes got signed, he got 50 million. So that's a quarter of the salary cap, right? But that same 50 million, if the salary cap is on its way to 250 million, now all of a sudden is 20% of the cap instead of 25% of the cap. So, and as it goes to 300 million, if you sign a long-term contract, then that's the way it is. So at 40 million, I'm guessing we're gonna see what three or four quarterbacks this year signing in that over 50 million range and so basically now you put Saquon on the clause and you get them both. So you get them both for 50 million instead of getting a quarterback for 50 million and Saquon, you know what I mean? So when you tag him, he comes in at 10 million, which is what the tag number is for a running back because it's so low. So now basically you got both your superstar players that you were trying to get signed and you've got the quarterback position for the next four years and he's proven to be good enough. I mean, you know, that was a pretty big jump by the Giants this year over what they were doing. I thought they crushed it and I think it was a huge showing from Shane and they needed to franchise Saquon. So I think they're sitting pretty and that's just the going rate. It's just what it is. And that deal for Mahomes, he's making $5 million less than Mahomes on average per year. So it's that everyone had such outrage when Mahomes got broke off for that half billion. But, and he'll of course renegotiate here in the next couple of years, I'm sure, but that's just what it is. And he's young and there's a lot you can count on if you can get him some receivers out there. Okay, so PFF, we love PFF. You know, we're big fans of Sam Monson on our show and we have him on every Friday and all of that. But I have to tell you and I was on vacation to the past couple of weeks, I keep seeing the PFF drafts mock draft simulator. It's this insane draft prep tool where if you wanna be a GM and you think you can be a better GM than these guys, you're just a big football fan. You wanna see what could shake out. You can literally make picks for your favorite team, different positions. You can make trades on this thing. So there's that. And then there's probably a lot of other great stuff you guys have shaking for the draft that we should look out for you. Yeah, it's crazy. Mike Renner does a fantastic job and our PFF draft guide is by cheat sheet for the next month and a half years. Take into all this kind of stuff. But the mock draft simulator, we have millions and millions of people who are on this thing every single day. And I probably do it four or five times per day myself. So basically all you do is you pick your team. So let's say your team drafts 15th. So you hit a button and the first 14 picks are taken and then it stops. And you get to pick your guy and you get a list to choose from and all that sort of stuff. And then it goes and it takes everything for the next all the way through the first round, all the way through the second round until you get to pick 15 in the second round. And then that's your team and you make your pick again. I mean, it's just fun. And you start to learn the names and the players that are in the draft. And then you go back and you study a little more. And it's really, it's a great tool. It really is one of our most popular. Who's trading with the Bears? Oh, here we go. Here we go. I know this gets a little personal for you here. You know, they're keeping Justin, right? I mean, there's no chance that's happening, right? Yeah, I think that's happening too. It feels like the Colts, but I don't know. Here's the way I look at those at the quarterbacks. I mean, I really do. I think that Bryce Young is just a brilliant young man. I mean, he really is. He's so you can watch him play the game. He plays the game like he's an NFL player already. So obviously the downside side is going to be his size. And but he's just so slick with the way he plays the game. I'm a little concerned the NFL players are a heck of a lot better at getting their hands up and knocking down balls even from six, four and six, five quarterbacks. But Bryce is slippery, right? He can move around. He can make plays. And he's just he's just a brilliant young man. I love to watch him play. So Will Lavis out of Kentucky is going to be. He's a runner, but he's not a runner. You know, he's really a thrower, but he gets the ball out of his hands so quickly. I really I think that that's going to be his superpowers. Just how quick his release is. Stroud was so great at the end of the year in the playoffs and showed up big in the biggest moments was by far the best that we've seen from him. And Anthony Richardson is, you know, come on now, you're all a matter. I mean, he's Superman, right? I mean, this is Cam Newton 2.0 as far as just raw skills of what he can do. I personally would not over trade to get up to number one. I think there's a chance that any one of the four of those ends up being the guy out of this draft class. So if I were sitting in a position at, you know, five through 10 and I got whatever was left after, you know, everybody traded up and made their moves and made their bold statements about who the best quarterback was, I would feel OK about it. And while I think that Bryce probably, you know, is the best player today, we're still developing these guys. And certainly Anthony Richardson is way, way needs to work on. He's so devisive. Where should he go? He is so devisive. Totally. How do you feel about him? What do you think? Do you think he's going to make it? He's going to make it in what? I mean, is he going to be the is he going to be? Here's the question. Here's the question everybody wants to know. OK, four years from now, who are we looking back at hopefully and going, oh, how did we not all trade up to number one for Patrick Mones? Is there one of those guys in this class? It would be him. I'm more of the. Well, first of all, it matters where he goes. It matters what his teams like. But Anthony Richardson, I'm going to bet. I'm going to take a swing. I'm going to bet on potential here and what I've seen. Why wouldn't I? He's super polarizing. That's fine. But legendary combined performance, not just that, but it was Cam Newton like measurements, all of that. He's setting quarterback records there. You know, there's questions about the game. And I think that that's super valid. But if I'm going after a quarterback in this draft, I'm swinging for the fences. And has there ever been a quarterback with more upside than him? That's my argument. Not many. And the other part of this is Jalen Hertz. You know, Jalen Hertz at the beginning of last year, last off season, even the Eagles weren't completely, they'll tell you they were, but they weren't completely sold that he was going to be what he was and what we saw in the Super Bowl. But the difference is, and the only difference, the only thing that scares me a little bit, and Jalen was obviously phenomenal this year. The only thing that scares me was Jalen coming out was a guy that we had ranked as, I think, the number one most accurate quarterback. Now, it took him a few years to grow into the NFL and do all that, but we obviously saw the net results of that this season. So Anthony is not that kind of accurate a guy. Can you grow into it? But maybe more importantly in this day and age, have we now seen the paradigm shift? If you don't have one of those quarterbacks, they can pull the ball down and run with it and hold that backside edge player so that you don't get him crashing down on the outside zone plays and all that. If you don't have a quarterback, they can at least pull it down and make you pay a little bit running the football. He doesn't have to run it 15 times a game, but if he five planned runs and five scrambles, that's a lot of offense, right? And now, and we know he can throw 80 yards down the field. So he's an interesting guy, I think, in a best case scenario. Here's, let me give you my best case scenario. So you go sign Aaron Rodgers and you draft this kid in the middle of the first round somewhere and let him sit and learn by like Jordan Love. We saw Jordan Love in Philadelphia this year. I was like, man, did he get better since the last time I saw him and whatever was preseason or some game. So there's something to be said about just giving some of them a little time behind great quarterbacks, let them watch, let them figure it out and start emulating, what it is that they're seeing those guys do. So I'm excited to watch this quarterback class, but I really do not feel like personally, I would be in love with any one of the four to the point where I'm moving up to and paying all that price. Everything you said and you mentioned Jalen Hertz, I would just, with Anthony Richardson and it's all so valid and there's the accuracy, there's the mechanics. You went to Jalen Hertz while you were talking was just thinking Josh Allen. Yeah. Throw down the field, 80 yards, so many questions in that draft leading up to it about his mechanics, about accuracy was the big thing. We still see some of those like mishaps out there, but the athleticism and the strength are so off the charts and so out of the world, out this world that Josh Allen sort of grew into it, right? They also had a steward, he had Dabel and company doing that. So if Richardson can find that in the NFL he'll be successful. I mean, Justin Beals, right? Justin Beals, I mean, if you didn't like, if you weren't willing to commit to that kind of player and that sort of development as a passer, then they would take one of these quarterbacks, right? But they didn't. I believe they're gonna stick with fields. And so I think there is a path now with all these quarterback gurus and all the different ways of teaching, throwing and tightening the motion and all that sort of stuff. Because if all of a sudden he gets around 65% of his passes completed instead of whatever it is, 50 something. Now you go, oh my gosh, with all those other tools, look out. So I mean, I don't know, but I do know this is, I've heard enough that this is a very bright quarterback class. And I think we may be surprised by all of them, but I just, I don't feel fantastic about one is so separated. Now my PFF guys are completely committed to Bryce Young. And when you watch the tape, you know why you can see how smart a player he is. But I still, I think there's upside to Levis. I think there's upside to Stroud. And I think there's a ton upside to Richardson. And so, whereas I think Bryce Young is, I mean, he's kind of perfect right now. I don't know that you're not betting on any upside out of him. He's got it, he's coming in. You need to win games this year. There's no question who your quarterback you should take. Well, there we go. And he's just one of 358, we love numbers here. You know, I love math. One of 358 players on the PFF NFL draft big board over at pff.com. There's that draft simulator over on the PFF app, which everybody should get as well. I learned a bunch of things about you. You're Bryce Young guy, you like the upside. You might not take a quarterback early. You think Aaron should chase a Super Bowl. You have pants that you've had for 30 years, which I appreciate. My producers just, they had some game for you. We're not going to do what you follow. Larry the cable guy on Twitter. He's one of the 330 people you follow on Twitter. Did you know this? I did. I played golf with him one time. He is so funny and he's so not his character. That's the hilarious part about him. It's like a character, it's just a total thing. There's another character that wants to ask you a question. Rob Gronkowski, how are you? Good morning. Hey Chris, what's up man? How you doing? How are you brother? I just want to say, man, you're doing a great job breaking down each player individually. I feel like you can talk for an hour in each player and just give them, you know, the pros and cons of each. And I got a question for you. Who is the best hideout in the draft this year? And are they going to make an impact right away when they get to the NFL as well? You know I got to say right off the bat my guy at Notre Dame. I mean, both my kids went there and Michael was these. I'm going there. He was a little smaller and ran 4-7, but I know there's great tight end that used to play and just find a way to go down and lean and nudge and get open. And he had this great quarterback that he played with. And now he's like the greatest spokesperson that ever walked the earth. Every time I watch his, I'd rather watch your commercials than watch television programs. I just want to show that just has one commercial of yours on after another. And I'll be happy for 30 minutes, which is all I can watch television. So yeah, that's my answer. Although the kid from Georgia is a big stud too, right? Yes, I appreciate that Chris. Even breaking down my post-season football career, that's pretty impressive. That's why you're the all-time baby, you're all-time legend. I love it. And then of course, yeah, we'll come here. Michael Mayer on PSX. Okay, how much fun is it seriously to have Gronk on the show? Because it's like you have no idea where you're going. You might as well have been shot into space on a rocket ship because you could land on Mars, you could land on Venus, you could land on Pluto with this guy. And that's the great thing about going into an interview with Rob Gronkowski. You don't know not only which planet you're gonna land on, you don't know which solar system you're gonna land in. And so from that standpoint, I'm out of here. I know it's time for the real show to start. I love you guys. Have a great day, have a great show. And I'll talk to you both very soon. Thank you Chris. Thank you Chris. Much love, baby. We'll be back after this with Rob Gronkowski. Rob, I don't even know that you know that about yourself, that nobody even prepares for interviews with you because there's no point. You just ask something and it goes somewhere else and that's all the fun and we'll do it right here on Up and Atoms after this. Bye. The world tight end, the six foot seven three. Four times Super Bowl champion Rob Gronkowski. Where in the world are you? I'm in Florida right now. I've been just getting some sunshine. The last couple of days I got really burnt. I looked like a lobster three days ago. So I haven't been out in the sun since but it's just been going good. I'm just getting my vitamin D. You gotta stay healthy. You gotta stay up on your vitamins. Gotta stay up on your vitamins. Are you in Florida like Miami, Florida where Tom Brady might unretire? No, no, I'm across the state on the other side. I'm actually in the St. Petersburg Tampa area where we won a Super Bowl two Super Bowls ago, baby. Actually three Super Bowls ago now. So that's what's up. Gronk, what's the biggest perk of winning a Super Bowl? Like the single best perk? You know, just being at that all time high and it rides for about a month. You know, wherever you go, it's just a party. It's just a celebration. You know, you have no worries. If you feel like you're on top of the world, you can make a little mistake and you're just forgiven in a matter of seconds, no matter what little mistake you make, wherever you are. If you have a party foul, it doesn't matter because you won the Super Bowl. It's just one of the greatest times you can definitely have, you know, after you win a Super Bowl. And then after about a month of celebration and then it kind of all settles in and then you start getting back to it and you know, your schedule starts becoming normal again. What about the losses? One to the Giants, one to the Eagles. I know we hate bringing them up. But what are those off seasons like really? You know, they're a little bit different. I would say they're a little bit different just in the first month after the game. Because like I said, once you win the game, you're celebrating for a whole month. Wherever you go, it's a party. It's a celebration. Your friends, your family. If you go out to the local bar, if you go out to the club, if you go out to go play some tennis at the local club, it just doesn't matter. It's a party. And if you lose the game, it's not necessarily like that. That's the big difference. You're kind of already getting ready for the next season. You know, wherever you go, it's like great season, man. You gave it your best. But it's not a full-time party like if you win the Super Bowl game for the whole month. But after a month, you know, everyone gets back at it. You know, you start normalizing your schedule again. You start getting prepared for the following season. So it's about the time, about middle of March, beginning of April is when it's all, you know, everyone's back on the level playing field. Unless you're Tom Brady and you're probably doing it the next day, especially after a loss. Did you hear this thing? I was on vacation, but I kept hearing about him wanting to be... He wants to get into comedy. He wants to do that. And he's doing some sort of roast. The greatest roast of all time is the first guy that's going to be featured. Is this surprising to you? Like, what is Tom's sense of humor? And how is that gonna go? Yeah, so it's not really surprising to me. Actually, I'm pretty sure he was supposed to have the roast last year. And actually, I was gonna be one of the guys who was supposed to be on the stand as well. And that was supposed to be in July. And then I think it was supposed to be a special on Netflix or something. And then that got canceled for the moment. I haven't heard of anything since, like you said, this comedy thing that you just brought up, this roast that he's supposed to have or whatever you just brought up. I haven't really heard anything about it at all. So I'm not really sure what's going on in that aspect. But let me tell you, Tom's got a personality. He's got a strong personality. That's for sure. He can take it. He can take any type of criticism. He can also give it out as well. So I think that he would do a great job in the roast. I feel like you can grow him any which way and direction and he'll take it and use it as fuel. He'll use it as energy. And that's what's so great about him. But he'll also deliver it as well. And it's classic both ways. There's lots of, I can't wait to, it's something I would never guess. Like if I was, I would never think that that's the world where he'd go. But I'm excited to see him try. And of course he's not going to like shrivel with any challenge in front of him. Listen, it's the off season. There's crazy storylines. There's Mark Jackson. There's Daniel Jones getting paid all that money. There's franchise tags and the drafts and everything coming up. So we thought that we could look into the future with you, our Nostra Gronkmas as my producer decided to call you. And I'm going to give you a scenario. We're going to run through a couple of these. So as quick as you want. And you tell me the future. Here we go. Aaron Rodgers, next destination. I think he's going to end up as a New York jet. If I feel like the owners at the Jets organization, just a whole entire organization, they're ready to win and they're ready to win now. And what better play than go and get the best quarterback in the NFL right now, or at least top three quarterback in the NFL and go and get Aaron Rodgers, right in the prime of, and get him right in the mix and just put the Jets as a playoff team right from the very beginning right when they get him. Do you think that he has a better chance of winning a ring there than Green Bay though? Not necessarily. I think he definitely will reach the playoffs with the Jets. He'll definitely change the culture there. I feel like every player will feel like they're a winning team right away, even though they haven't been to the playoffs in many years. But I think he'll just change it just like that overnight. Do they have a better chance of winning a Super Bowl than being in Green Bay? I mean, not necessarily because he's been in that organization for so long. Everyone understands each other. Everyone's on the same page when they're out in the field and that's what you gotta be. You gotta be, the chemistry has to be rolling in order to win a Super Bowl. Like literally 99% of the team has to be on the same page. Everyone has to know what the other person is doing and be able to bounce off of what they're doing in order to win a Super Bowl all the way. So yeah, so there's definitely a possibility. You can definitely do it with the Jets if he ends up there. And I think it would be great for the NFL. I think it would be great for Aaron Rodgers. And I also think it would be great for the Green Bay Packers to move on. I mean, there's just so much noise. I think everyone in this situation just should start crashing. I love that. And you did it and it worked out for you. So we of course wish him all of the best here. How about, let's go Travis Kelsey here. Travis Kelsey hosted Saturday Night Live. I don't know if you caught any of it. He did a great job. Who's the next player, Gronk Stradamus to host SNL? The next NFL player. Who should do it? Yeah, Travis Kelsey did do a great job. I just seen a couple clips of it online. He did a fantastic job. I love Travis. He's not just a great player on the field, but he's a great guy off the field every time I get to run into him. And the next person that I think will be hosting Saturday Night Live. That's an NFL player. That's a tough question. Let's think. Who's got that personality to do it? Jason Kelsey? Yeah, Jason Kelsey was on it. He did a great job when he came in and scooped up that girl that was crying all over the place. That was the clip that I saw. I love Jason. He's a great dude as well. But I don't think so. I'm not gonna be biased, but I kind of am, but he's a center. I don't think they're gonna have a center host Saturday Night Live. Yeah. Jason, don't get too mad at me for saying that, but prove me wrong. Prove me wrong, baby. Maybe Lamar Jackson could do it because he doesn't seem to have a home right now. Right there. Lamar Jackson? He got his mnemonics? What? Yes. That's who I'm going with. Lamar Jackson needs to host Saturday Night Live next. I would love that. Where do you think he lands, Gronk Stradamus? Because he's negotiating with other teams. He can do that or he gets tapped by Baltimore and plays it out there. This is wild because I was actually sitting in my sauna this morning. I had ESPN on for the first time in a while and I literally caught up on all the NFL news in literally 20 minutes while I was watching TV this morning. So this is great that I sat there in the sauna listening to all the news because now you're talking about it and I know what's going on. And I just saw that Lamar Jackson got that non-exclusive free agent tag. I didn't even know there was a non-exclusive free agent tag. I just thought you got tagged and that was all. I didn't know you could talk to possible other teams and it's less of a tagline too. It's like $15 million less when you're not exclusive franchise tag. But I think he's gonna end up in Baltimore in the end. He knows this system, I mean. He's a unanimous MVP. I mean, the guy has an amazing winning percentage already for the first four years in his career. But there's something going on between Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens that no one knows about right now. And that's why there's a stalemate and that's why it's a little weird and awkward that there's no deal getting done. But no one knows, it hasn't been released and it's probably within the organization. There's somewhere that they are butting heads where they won't get the deal done. But I truly believe in the end it will be the Baltimore Ravens for Lamar Jackson. It's a savvy take, 20 minutes in the sauna with Jannar Lofsky on get up. We got a lot of it from Gronk. Gronk, I have not seen any movies that everybody watches. Like I saw it from Brady, which you were in. I need you to give me quickly a movie that I have an assignment homework to watch before you come on next. Yes, well I did just see it for Brady for the first time a week ago in the movie theaters. It was a great movie. The only time there was three other people in the whole movie theater because I went late at night. The only time they laughed, they didn't even know I was in the movie theater. I was on the way back. The only time that three people laughed is when Jane Fonda saw me in the locker room and I said, thank you, sir. And that's when I got up, I was sitting there with Camille and I was like, you hear that? The only three people, the only time they laughed was at my scene. I was all pumped up. I left the movie theater. I couldn't even walk out of the door because my head was so big. But what was the question again? Oh, the movie. Give me a movie. All right, Avatar. I also went and saw Avatar in theaters about a month ago. You gotta go check it out. It's about a three hour long movie but it's well worth the wait the whole entire time. I've seen it. Give me an old movie. Like A Goodfellas, A Godfather. Like a- All right, The Longest Yard. I just saw that as well. I've never seen it. The Outer Samurai. You've never seen The Longest Yard? You gotta, it's a football movie as well. You have to go see it. You got Michael. Oh, watch it. Not a ringing advertisement for 80 for Brady but there were three people in the theater and only laughed at Gronk. Yeah. But it's why we love Gronk. And we'll talk to you a little later. Enjoy Tampa. All right, peace out. Peace out, lobster. We'll be back. I almost literally exited the Zoom call that I'm on. We'll be back. How much do we have left in show? One minute. Are we going to break? We're not going to break. I have two people yelling at me. We're going to break when we're not going to break. I don't think we are going to break. Ready to break!