 Even though we're staying well you will soon enough Hey, did you know my room has wheels on it? It's pretty awesome Yeah, I'll we'll have to catch up with our room, but it's tooling around right now Well, if we have hotel robots, okay, I'm totally gonna use that I'm gonna use up all the all the little soaps and shampoos Do you sell them when you get back? I think I told you that I had stayed at a nice hotel I don't know sometimes last year for work and you know, I I swiped all the all the goodies And when I got back I kind of like arranged them and in my bathroom and friend came over and he was like Did you steal all of these and I'm like they're free You're supposed to use them, but if you don't use them you can take them It's not like I stole like a really nice robe or you know a bunch of hand towels You're they're free Did you feel did you feel very indignant at his accusation? No? I was just like haven't you ever stayed in a hotel room that has nice stuff like you know, they've got keels I'm taking everything That's the idea They're small. It's not like it's like a not like it's a leader of you know to leader of Exquisite moisturizer. I don't know. Maybe you guys think I'm crazy, but I'm just I'm taking all of it Unless it's like a crappy motel where you're like, I don't even want this stuff. I don't like the smell circuit circus No, I should say that The only place I've ever been where the restaurant is both Mexican and Italian Well, I bet there are others We're doing a chess game in the master level thread on patreon right now and Paul Reese I actually don't know if it's just Paul Reese playing or if he's coordinating with with the rest of the master level people But he's the one that posts all the moves. He posted a move two minutes before showtime That's a gambit if I ever heard of one Well, it's not like you're it's you don't have a time limit, right? It's not but it shook me because it was a check So I immediately had you there's only one move you can make usually with a check might be too But you know, so I immediately had to get out of check. I can't just leave my king and Jeopardy like that Sarah Jeopardy Lost on Jeopardy why I don't play chess. It's just too stressful. That's right. Don't do it Don't get started kids. Don't leave the house So true Well, let's get started here Let's do it Let me Find a inappropriate person to thank No, just thank any old yahoo out there. Oh, no Here we go. Well, actually I should make sure I say that give me a minute here I'll be right there. I promise no problem Tom Tom is shook because of the chess game. We understand Everybody's you know, everybody has their trigger, right? You as you want to throw Tom off play chess with him and make a move Right before show for 2019. Yeah, do your move right before the show Well, I thought it would be Because I don't like to wear my big headphones and a hat and I really wanted to wear a hat for Hat Friday So I'm wearing the headphones that I explained yesterday. Don't actually fit my ears. So this will be fun All right, I had to double-check something and now I'm ready I just don't know why they can't just be in here. They just don't stay terrible headphones It's just I envy anybody who goes no work really well All right, would you like to read the First line there Okay Mine line three. Yes, I would I would like to all right Well, you're going to here we go three two one Joshua Hill has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Joshua become a DTNS member at patreon.com DTNS This is the Daily Tech news for Friday, January 4th 2019 in Los Angeles, I'm Tom Merritt and studio feline I'm Sarah Lane from Baker Mayfield country. I'm Len Peralta And I am from just a hot corner of LA County. I'm the show's producer under chain The hot isn't happening or third base. He plays he plays third base for it's happening It's also a little bit warmer today than it was yesterday Let Peralta is back after a holiday break if you listen to good day internet the extended version of the show for patrons You heard about his Mary Texmus and let we're very very excited to have you draw your first art for the show for 2019 You know, it's always a You know, it's always great to be able to draw the first show of the year because usually it's about the about CSA CS So and today we are going to talk about what we expect to see at CES, but probably not a lot of CSS Probably not. I mean not unless you view source. Let's start with a few tech things. You should know Marriott says that it now believes fewer than 383 million unique guest records were accessed Accessed rather by attackers and the starwood data breach now that still sounds like a lot But it's down from the original estimate of 500 million Marriott also revealed that 5 million unencrypted passport numbers were accessed along with 29 million Encrypted passport numbers Marriott also confirmed it phased out starwood's database and now itself runs all its booking through the Marriott Database that wasn't affected by the breach in the next Windows updates scheduled for April Microsoft will remove Cortana's voice walkthroughs for clean installs of Windows 10 pro enterprise and Education additions you can still launch Cortana during setup if you miss her You just got to press when control enter and Cortana will remain active during setup by default in Windows 10 home So you're no getting away from her if you're installing Windows 10 home. Let's talk a little bit more about Huawei Let's do it Reuters and Bloomberg both report seen an internal memo from Huawei's corporate senior vice president Chen Li-fang Recording regarding rather a New Year's tweet that was sent by Huawei's official account This is a Twitter tweet that was posted from an iPhone And it says it right at the bottom Li-fang wrote that the tweet caused damage to the brand two employees will be demoted and have pay cut by 501 which is about 728 US dollars 5,000 rather and one will see their pay rank frozen for 12 months Yikes apparently a problem with VPN on a PC led the employees to using an iPhone with a foreign SIM card as a workaround Now Twitter is blocked in China and the tweet itself was really it innocuous It was happy new year from all of us at Huawei type thing But wow, that's this is a lot different than maybe a corporate apology that you might see from another company Well, we've been seeing more stories like this where someone says hey Did you notice that so-and-so tweeted, you know from this kind of platform when they endorsed this other kind of platform? And Twitter has made it more visible. It's always been there if you wanted to find it But they've put it front and center in some recent redesign So it's it's a lot more visible which is I guess why Huawei is very upset by this it is interesting though that the Chinese firewall blocks Twitter and so to post from the corporate Huawei account the They had to get around the Chinese firewall, which is not necessarily illegal corporations are allowed to have VPNs under certain rules So they they weren't necessarily breaking the law by doing this But because their official VPN provider was down Then I you know, I don't know if it's illegal for them to go with a foreign SIM card like that but they tried to say well gosh, we got to get our happy new year tweet out there and Took some shortcuts without Considering that people would be able to tell they were using an iPhone Yeah, and to have your pay docked for 12 months because you're trying to say happy new year and and do good by it by the Huawei official Twitter account kind of a bummer Los Angeles City Attorney has filed a lawsuit against IBM's the weather company Claiming its weather channel app uses personal data for targeted marketing and hedge fund analysis now Keep in mind the weather channel is also a television channel the weather channel app used to be Connected to that, but it's now owned by the weather company which is owned by IBM which is separate from the weather channel It's branding that gets very confusing, but this is an IBM issue Not a weather channel television if you the app uses location to deliver your weather forecast, of course it does That's what you want you want it to be able to tell where you are so it can say oh in your neighborhood It's gonna rain the suit claims that IBM affiliates and other third parties receive the data and IBM does not properly disclose this IBM says No, we do disclose it appropriately, and we will vigorously defend ourselves in court my guess is what's going on here is IBM is or the weather channel app is one of these apps that when it asks for location information The little pop-up just says hey, we want to give you forecasts in your area Can we can we track your location and you say well? Yeah, I want that Whereas the terms of service that you have just clicked agree without reading and you have it dug down in to find When it asks for location information Probably do disclose that hey, we'll also be given this to a bunch of third parties, but it'll be anonymous. We promise Hmm. Well, yeah, I that scenario was probably exactly what's going on and it probably again is Information that if it is anonymous, well, it's not gonna affect you all that much But it's it's that do you read the terms of service a lot more closely or does IBM or the The the the weather company in this case need to make this much more clear when it asks for your location Yeah, and we've talked about this kind of thing a lot on DTNS where what these companies are doing isn't necessarily nefarious They're not trying to sell you what they're trying to do is say hey We know a lot of people are checking the weather are concerned about the weather in this area And we also because we're collating that data know that people who are checking the weather in that area also are buying rain boots And so we can sell that data to the rain boot manufacturer to target their ads toward this area it never involves particular people in the practice and that's why these companies do it so much but The attitude about this sort of thing has changed and there's more scrutiny on it So even if you're following the letter of the rules by disclosing It may not be enough in the in the court of public opinion anymore Yeah, it's just it's kind of that ad manipulation conversation where yeah, if I feel Manipulated somehow into buying rain boots because of what happened in this case. Okay, some people are gonna say yeah I don't I don't want that I want to be more in charge of this But at the supermarket, that's also why certain products are put next to each other on shelves. So yeah Yeah, it's a it's a it's not the first app to do this It's not even the first weather app to do it, but I think because it has IBM connected to it. It's getting a lot more play Anonymous actors not Hollywood actors the different kind publish on Twitter hundreds of documents of German politicians Celebrities and journalists including financial information addresses personal letters copies of identity cards and others It's unclear if the information was leaked or obtained through a breach or by phishing members of all political parties Except the AFD were affected German Chancellor Angela Merkel was among the victims through documents related to her They were not considered sensitive German cyber defense body BSI met to coordinate federal agencies response Yeah, this is both a huge deal and not at the same time I mean having people's identity cards published is it's basically a huge doxing of Large numbers of the German government and celebrities and journalists. I'm not Defending it or saying it's a good thing It also does not seem to be in most cases with some of those financial information Maybe the kind of harmful data breach that could really really disrupt someone's life But it ain't good at all And of course the finger pointing is going on with the usual suspects Russia China, etc All being bandied about but the fact is nobody knows who did this nobody knows how they did it yet And I think that's really interesting. It could have been a single leaker It might not even be a typical data breach. It might not be an attack at all It might be that some disgruntled employee had access to large databases of information and and leak them out because they were upset You know, it's it's interesting that one particular political party was unaffected That doesn't you know mean that they're guilty of it But it could mean that someone either associated with that party or in support of that party Wanted to get back at political enemies. It doesn't mean that that happened either But that's that's another possibility Yeah, the German Chancellor having personal stuff Lee it's again, but no one is safe It's only like her actual email address and and one other, you know, fairly quasi-public thing She she didn't have any sensitive data. Thankfully for her It does seem more disgruntled than anything just because the data itself is not that juicy Yeah, for the most part it's it's it's bulk over juiciness I guess You know, I mean there's some not to say there isn't some juicy data in here for sure and people will be plowing through it Trying to find it but but it's it's more about the the just sheer amount of it. I think Amazon has launched a visual design tool called Amazon showroom that lets you place virtual furniture in a virtual living room customize the design and then Presumably Amazon will hope that you buy that furniture from Amazon They make it really easy to add it to your cart Amazon launched an augmented reality feature in 2017 that lets you place potential furniture in your camera View so you could actually place it in your own home Which I actually think is more useful because otherwise I've got to try to recreate my room And every time I've tried to use one of these things I always go well, wait a minute I have a lot of weird things in my room that I'm not going to move and now I have to recreate those and I Maybe have some weird angle Especially my old house. I had these weird angles that I took a lot of time to replicate in these things So it's it seems better to just use augmented reality to me Well, I think both of these tools are good in really different ways. So I moved somewhat recently I use the augmented reality tool to figure out where my stuff That I already had might look in the room That was actually super helpful and also stuff that I was going to need to buy or maybe things that weren't going to But the whole virtual reality room even though it might not resemble any room that you're going to redesign at least kind of start you from scratch if you want to you know a color palette and Does that rug look good to that chair in a you know what a room with four walls with a window somewhere? I can see where maybe that would get you going at the beginning And then you use the AR app to be a little bit more realistic about how it would look in your own house I love this kind of stuff and Amazon's not the first company to do it But they they now have a couple of their own lines of Amazon branded furniture So I can see why tools like this are only going to help sell big items I want the tool that lets me just scan my room and then Creates an in a virtual environment for me based on it I think that's the best of both worlds because then I don't have to stand there looking in my room I agree that that's a little clunky But I also don't have to spend a lot of time setting it up To work for my room if it could just scan it and I'd be able to be like okay Put all the furniture I have in here in in the room then I can delete the stuff I want to replace and try stuff out then That's what I want go make that somebody way fair home but how is it gonna? Yeah, that's a great idea I want that too Yeah, I didn't say it was easy I just said I want it Yeah, because how are you gonna delete that one chair without deleting both? There's a good machine learning out there that that would be able to recognize individual furniture elements and and be able to True. Yeah, based on maybe how far away they are from from the camera and that sort of thing There's gotta be an interior designer listening right now saying I have the tool. So let us know Evan Blass is a very reliable leaker of images of products to come Ev leaks on twitter Early, but Evan Blass says that he cannot speak to the authenticity of the latest leak that he shared So consider this a solid rumor the video that he leaked shows a phone that folds out three ways into a tablet Allegedly from Xiaomi which is expect to have a foldable device in the works So that would make sense samsung and royale have both showed foldable prototypes of their own Lenovo said it was working on one back in 2016. So one would think it's about time And patent applications suggest that apple is working on the concept as well authentic or not Let's go back to the age old question. Do we want foldable phones? Yeah, because none at least the same way This video whether it's Xiaomi or something else or maybe it's a deep fake. I don't know but it it shows three ways Right. It's a thick phone That that unfolds into a tablet and of course we saw the samsung one That is just a thick tablet that folds in half. I guess it's a thinner tablet, but it folds in half into a thick phone Uh, no none of these seem to work the same way. Nobody's hit on The foldable thing that everybody wants to copy yet. So it's early days for this It feels like we're in The palm trio era of foldable phones Nobody's nobody's quite figured out what a smart phone should look like and we're waiting on the apple iphone to come along and And create the template that everybody imitates Or or do we care? Is this going to be like the the umpc where it just never catches on? I yeah, it's it's so hard for me to think of What a foldable phone would look like that doesn't just harken back to the days when phones were all foldable I love the idea of protecting my screen But it also would come with some extra phone Parts that I don't necessarily need however at those extra parts are able to Be disengaged or yeah turn into a keypad and then it's more of a tablet I don't know it's it's it's like yeah one of these Concepts that I have to see it first in order to say oh, yeah now I need this It's to me to me the The big advantage the big attraction is a tablet being able to have a tablet And fold it up and it be a phone my problem is none of the form factors I've seen look like the kind of phone I would want to have Uh, they're they're pretty seamless on the tablet side all of them by the looks of it But when they phone it fold into a phone they don't seem like the kind of phone I'd want to carry around I want to carry around a phone that feels like a modern phone And then somehow have it unfold into a tablet. I don't know if it's unfoldable I think it's like Flexible like a screen you pull out like a like a curtain, right? Roger, what do you think? Well, I think this is the stage where everyone throws something up against the wall to see what sticks Remember, you know the the grand old days of the pda and before they had connectivity Everyone's figured out. How do you interface with it? You have a little keyboard. So it's a little clamshell computer And you've went through so many different iterations You basically went through five years Before someone hit on the idea palm just used a stylus and then we went to the smartphone Well, if you use a pda this way that's obviously you're going to use a phone the same way And it took another five or six years till apple's iphone rolled out and just no, it's all touch It's all touch And I think we're still in that phase where everyone's just trying to feel everything out to feel what works best Right now if this was an actual product, it'd still be pretty clunky what you were saying tom And I think no one has really hit on the The the eureka moment where you can say okay, of course, this is how it's supposed to work. Yeah Well, we are we are definitely going to see some foldable phones And other foldable screen items at ces So let's get to talking about it If you want to get that tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com It's the way to keep up to date in a fast manner every day with tech daily tech headlines dot com So what to expect at ces We'll just go through all of the categories that we expect to hit It's always fun to do this and then check back in a week and find out how close we were Foldable is is definitely one of them, but 5g. I think will be probably one of the biggest 5g in your home 5g in your phone 5g in your car In fact, if you want a more of a deep dive on 5g My editor's desk at patreon.com slash dts is an explanation of 5g my attempt to explain what 5g is and what it's good for You can get that at the associate producer level or above at patreon.com slash dts But yeah, sarah, I think I think we're going to be hearing 5g 5g 5g a lot Well and ces is is the right place for it because you you see a lot of products at ces And when you say well, but hold on to whoever's who manning the booth But isn't that not available yet? Well, but it when it is available will be the first uh company to have To have launched this 5g microwave Pizza maker. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna want you're gonna want Well, that's the thing there will be some actual real devices that would be like Oh, this laptop will have you know standard 5g nr in it So when that service becomes widely available, you'll be ready for it. Absolutely going to see those There's also going to be crazy stuff We're like really why would you need 5g and then there's going to be What I'm most interested in is the stuff that you wouldn't think needs 5g Because it's not about speed But needs 5g because it's about capacity because now you can have So many more things connecting at once because of 5g's increased capacity That that's kind of the area I want to keep an eye on for ces Well, I think that a lot of hardware companies are going to lean into that as well because You see a lot of Hardware products at ces that you don't need they're cool But you don't need them But if if hardware companies can convince us Of how much all of these smart devices are going to talk to each other much better because of 5g see 5g Is what we've all been waiting for then they're going to sell more products We'll hear ai and smart home expect to see it in almost every product expect to see ai in almost every product Some of them may actually even use it Voice assistant battle is going to carry on google and amazon We saw a lot of google assistant last year. I have a feeling we're going to see more amazon voice services this year Because there are now more than 20 000 smart devices compatible with amazon and more than 10 000 that work with google assistant So this is the year You know there was amazon and everything two years ago google sort of won the headline battle last year And I think this is the year they're going to go head to head We're just going to see a lot of voice assistant in everything Alongside with this is machine machine learning some of which will be stupid and not true and others might be pretty interesting and innovative Yeah, I considering how much attention google assistant got at ces last year It just goes to show how well amazon has done in this space and sure they they they had a head start but 20 000 to 10 000 means they're not exactly neck and neck the the amazon ecosystem is still firmly ahead of the pack Including google Yeah, the other thing I think we're going to see a lot of his wearables particularly around health tech So not just fitbit type trackers or smart watches and we'll see plenty of those But actual health tech that you can wear You know and the things we hear about most often are for diabetics, you know to monitor your your insulin levels But I think we'll also have a lot more heart monitors and specialized items for for special conditions About 120 health tech exhibitors are going to be at the show this year according to lauren good at wired That's up from 98 last year And we're going to see a lot of health stuff from The unusual suspects proctor and gamble is going to be showing off a ton of different health tech items there We've seen l'oreal before But we're going to we're going to see some l'oreal based health tech stuff as well. This is going to be interesting Yeah the manufacturers aside these are It's silly as they sound I read lauren's article as well And I guess olai is going to have some sort of skin tech that can tell you something about that those are the sorts of Of of innovations that I go. Okay. So I don't have to just now all of a sudden start caring about how many steps I take per day. I already care about washing my face This is the sort of thing that I can incorporate into my life potentially in a way that actually matters to me skin and hair and and and things like that so so Bring it on Bring it panting smart panting is not a joke. That is a thing I know, but I'm like, well, I wash my hair regularly. We're never going to stop doing that. Let's see which got panting Uh car tech, we you know see wednesday show for more about this with tim stevens We talked a little bit about it, but we're going to you know self-driving to smart car and scooters We're going to see a lot of that as well car tech is always something that I mean to get to At c. Yes, and then my feet start hurting and I run out of room because it's kind of uh down on the end and And the droid auto show is The bigger car tech show. However, I hope we can make it over there this year And spend a little bit more time because I think this year certainly As as it was last year in the year before but this year more than ever the self-driving and kind of concept cars Sound like they're going to have a little bit more of uh stage presence at c. Yes Yeah, there's more automakers than last year going to be there. It's it's quickly becoming Part auto show exactly. Yeah uh, and finally, uh PC and gaming and 8k tv's i'm gonna throw out this is all the home entertainment stuff I guess uh, we'll obviously hear announcements from intel amd in vidya We're going to see a lot of uh laptops with smaller and smaller bezels We already started to get some announcements. The the dell latitudes, which are their enterprise line are beautiful beautiful and and uh, they have this windows hello function that'll lock the screen when your face disappears And then unlock it as soon as you come back, which is really nice. So we're going to see a lot of stuff like that We're going to see a lot of gaming stuff pc gaming in particular Uh and 8k tv's 8k tv's Is going to be the the silly thing. We're going to see very large 8k tv's lg has already talked about their 88 inch OLED 8k tv none of them are going to be practical None of them even if they have a price are going to be a price that you can afford And it's still a couple years off before 8k is even something where you could try to justify it for any reason There's no content available. Uh, but we are nonetheless going to see a lot of very massive 8k tv's Yeah, you could do it because you can right why not they did it That's what ces is half about We did it because we could I've been going to ces since 2000 and on and off Uh, and it almost makes me nostalgic to finally be back with a new tv trend, right For for years. It was hd and then it was 1080 Uh, and then it was 3d and then it was 4k and then it was 4k hdr Last year lots of modular tv's it could be a whole wall or just a small one Yeah, the was that samsung that had that was yeah, but a few others So, yeah, this this is the year of 8k and it just makes me feel comfortable Going into ces with a with a solid silly television trend to look out for Well, yeah, and now all the 4k tv's will drop in price and we can all get on board five years later Exactly Hey, thanks everybody who participates in our sub reddit You can submit stories and vote on others and I don't know make some friends along the way daily tech news show We're also on facebook. We got a group there facebook.com Slash groups slash daily tech news show We love your emails and then sometimes we read them on the show like this one Now, I don't remember tesla ever having a ces presence Who knows but raul was thinking a little bit about this because we've been talking about elon musk and tesla and ev cars lately Raul says i'm no expert on elon muscology That's clever roel But it did seem to me that mr musk is as much driven to make money as he is to create change He sees something that needs changing electric cars rapid raid rapid Raid via tunnel. All right, that's what roel said trips to mars stuff like that And he says that there's an opportunity to make money while bringing about change all this to say more ev cars on the road Even if they're not tesla might please him Of course, I may be wrong. Happy new year to all and congrats on the five year anniversary Thank you roel. I think he meant to write rapid rail via tunnel Well, it was like Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but yeah, uh, I I Think sometimes on this show I may come off as disliking elon musk or tesla and that is not true I think elon musk does want to make the world a better place I think sometimes the price is a little too laudatory of him. So I try to counterbalance that but I got no problem with the man And I love the company He definitely wants to make his mark and be considered a pioneer Of of whatever field he's in and remembered that way And many founders share with elon musk the idea that There is a need he might not have woken up one day and been like my my desire is to To to to change the auto industry He may have observed the auto industry enough to say, you know what? You know what this needs this needs a thing and I'm going to be the one to do it That's kind of like the boring company, right? He was driving in traffic I said, you know what this we need a tunnel and then he went right. I'm going to make a product and serve the market All right, let's check in with len peralta who has been busy scribbling as he does during this entire show Len what do you got scribbling away always like I said at the top of show talking about ces on the first my first appearance of the new year and this is no No different. Um, this particular one is called drones phones and smart homes And it sort of covers everything. It's got the drones. It's got the nest. It's got the smart phones. You got the 5g It's got it's got everything and it's always like I got a sideshow bob looks It's kind of a yes. I half naked man Who is uh, who is yelling uh wearing his vr helmet? Just enjoying what's going to be happening at ces can't wait to see what comes out of it. It's always really exciting and uh So is that a smart towel? You know what don't answer that It's all right. Yes. It is a smart towel. It's a wi-fi car It's every it's everything you can possibly imagine talk about drones. There's going to be a million drones at Yeah, so Here's my challenge to everyone buy this right now from lennproaltestore.com Take it to ces and get A vendor who actually does one of these products to sign it At every point that it is represented on this and then send us a picture if you complete the whole set We'll do something really nice for you. That'll be on That's cool. Well, you're really going crazy for the five years. I can't believe it's five years Honestly, I know man. 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You see it, right? Uh, I did see it. Let me reopen it 2019 oh 104 13 31 recording wave is the snappy title Meanwhile, uh, sarah We're switching things around roger's gonna do the the posting And so you and I have to pick the title But i'm not taking it yet because it's not done Right syncing. Yeah, don't don't I'll like I said, I will tell you when it goes green But then sarah and I will we'll work on the title All right, well We've got bulk over juiciness. That's funny um Great c.s. Spectations Suspectations sounds weird when you say it out loud Works on the page though It's green roger The obligatory silly things at ces I like that one 5g 8k tv's at ces And yeah, that's that's a real thing. Although it might sound like that's something that we talked about Which isn't exactly Great. Should we go with great ces? Spectations? I like that one. Yeah I like that one too. I'm gonna go with that. Great. Suspectations Be careful. I'm gonna make you laugh every time you say it. I love that Great sister Patient Not any better Cis spectations Totally different. Oh like cisgender Right or or sister Ah s is right. Yeah, what do I expect from cis my birthday next week, man Move Happy birthday. What day? sarah Sorry, what what day is your birthday? Oh, it's not really next week If I had a sister that would be my cis expectation is that she gives me a good birthday All right, you boy you you got me there Now my birthday was back in october. In fact, isn't yours in october 2? It is. Yeah, we talked about this october 29th October 12th Len you're low your volume is low. My volume is maybe it's because i'm just Talking. Oh, maybe you're just leaning because I felt like it got lower over time And I don't know, you know, you're a little lower than tom and roger for me, but I also have Len are you feeling low? I'm feeling low. Is it actually do you get that post holiday depression? No, you know what? I really am looking forward to another Christmas this weekend. I'm kidding. I wish I could I was like, oh, hey, so, uh, I got a question Yeah, a nintendo question for people and this is actually for everybody in chat room and stuff like that So i'm considering we talked about a little bit about this in the pre show But I am if you are using the nintendo online to play Give me some feedback on that my I'm considering doing either a An individual account for 12 months or a family account for 12 months But I don't know what the what the advantage would be Because we only have one switch My kids have Access to switches at their schools so we could technically play with them, I guess But i'm trying to protect my six-year-old from Going online and just he's he's so Incredibly tech savvy. It's ridiculous. So I just want to protect him. So You know, give me some feedback on that. Either you can add reply me or or just, you know Text, you know, whatever. So this is one of those situations where you do at me Yes, do at me, bro Yeah, and uh, do you like uh gifts? I love gifts. Well, then you should go to free tech newsletter dot com free tech newsletter What's that all about? Uh, it's my new newsletter Where you can get a regular I want to say daily, but I've only done two Uh, a regular email with tech news full of gifts Inspired by free political newsletter dot com from Justin rubber young. Oh nice. Now gifts I I thought you meant like gif ts, but you're talking about. Oh, no, I meant gif jail I like peanut butter too. So that's Gifts for christmas Yes, I'm gonna put my email in here and start subscribing immediately to get my gifts. Yeah Got to check it out. It's uh, it's full of good ones Today, uh, it includes Reese witherspoon. Hmm. I love and peanut butter No, no peanut that you're thinking about another site entirely. That's there is a foldable phone gift though interesting I've been added to your list, huh Excellent excellent. I did I guess you don't get the previous newsletter when you sign up Just moving forward you start getting it. Okay. Can you go to free tech newsletter dot com Can you See the news previous letters. No, I just subscribed. Let me see. I wonder if I can do that. I wonder if I can add that Yeah, it's not there right now. I just the subscribe with the crazy mountain people. That's a default I was wondering who that was Who is that you tom? I didn't think that I think that's you because that's like clip art Yeah, you look very it's it would be it'd be a very feminine looking you if you were In the front there. I'm like, that's not Tom Uh, also speaking of gifts if you don't follow daily tech news show on instagram Uh, our our friend rich straffolino is going to be posting some some memes To the daily tech news show instagram. Uh, dtns pics is the instagram handle It's pix, right? Yeah pix. That's right. No good point hot memes Hot memes coming on dtns pics Hot memes That's what i'm going out for uh for halloween as this year is a hot That's some really funny stuff that he's going to post I cannot wait to see it Uh, uh, oh paul reese paul reese you're driving me nuts here. Did you make another move? What did he say he said, oh, uh, I I wrote dirty pool making a move a minute before showtime and he wrote rofl to shea and completely and entirely by accident. So that's good Gives me more time to relax Uh, yeah, I I just saw that he accessed the account Not I'm curious actually if he started to Add anything yet No, the last dtns pics is of rich's baby Oh, yeah that I I liked that one. Yeah, I actually posted that He sent it to me and then I posted it, but he's gonna be posting directly here in a second Oh, yeah, 156 phones. Otis, do you want to post to the dtns? Oh, Otis would make great posts Otis has his own instagram account. Yeah, no, I follow. I follow Otis on instagram He posts not too much, you know, he doesn't want to flood anybody's feed, but he he sometimes says This is a pretty good picture of me. I'd like to post it now And he gets his little foldable phone out and He's yard it out somehow. Oh gosh, he's so ahead. I don't think you're telling the truth. I don't think that's true Dogs don't have my dog, man Dogs don't have opposable thumbs. So uh, let's not be thumbest, Len Yeah, they'll stop be digitists. Yeah, just because he chases a squirrel here in there does not mean So like if you post as he uses his nose or something because he has no digits don't mean he can't be digital Very digital He's a digital dog, man Ray has uh has her own twitter account. I don't know that she has an instagram account Sawyer has one for his movie his movie chew hard. Oh, oh, that's right. Yeah, it's promotional tool I have really really for real. I got a hard movie Uh, you could you could find a picture of the chew hard movie poster that was made by lenn peralta on that feed So, um How would I find that exactly chew hard movie? Just search chew hard movie Yeah How funny is that I actually bought some there's a grocery store near me that has all sorts of fancy coffee And uh, some of that I know and some of that I'm like, oh, I haven't heard of that brand And usually I just go with the stuff. I know because I know what kind of coffee I like and um I know I said I wasn't drinking coffee, but I don't know I caved yesterday So I didn't I didn't think about that when you said it I haven't had any today, but It's it's in there. Anyway, it's this because we talked about it too much, I think Right exactly. I just yeah now I have it on the brain I actually just like to have it in the house because someone's always going to come over and I'm gonna be like, do you want some coffee? So I always have it even if I'm not drinking it, but there's a I think the brand is something like grounds and hounds and And it's it's I don't know it seems like good coffee Spensive enough, but the whole idea is that for each bag of beans The company which I believe is based somewhere in pennsylvania might be Pittsburgh I have to double check donate like 20 of proceeds to a variety variety of animal charities So I was like well, I mean now you got me That's the coffee on buyin grounds and hounds I've I've taken to using the nespresso more we got the nespresso a year ago At christmas and eileen kind of did drip and nespresso back and forth for a few months And then she just started using nespresso every day I like the drip coffee. So I was using drip coffee, but there's one Special one that they came out with for the holidays called macaroon like like the like the dessert But it's not sweet. It doesn't have sugar in it. It just tastes really good. It's like a dark rich coffee And this is an espresso flavor. I've started to use that nespresso flavor, but the problem is That it's a limited edition. It's going to go out of stock Seasonal at the end of january and then Then I'll be out of luck happened to me last year. I liked their peppermint coffee last year And then of course that one went away and they didn't bring it back Well, I think that that that whole sort of like It's a seasonal thing helps to sell something that they're not sure is going to stick And if people try it when the peppermint coffee goes away, then they say well now it's going to be a all year round thing Hey, roger, are we stuck on len? Did you select the len at some point and then No, I every to everyone who's talking's face pops up Zoe said it was stuck on len, but I guess it started moving so never mind Anyway Yeah, I I like a goodness espresso. I don't have one, but my mom does Not macron. It's not the french president. No, it's like it's a little cookie with the uh, uh, meringue thing Right, which is also not a macaroon, which is a different cookie, right? But that's very confusing always has been Oh, you know the other piece of technology that has come into our home Which really I don't know if you'd really consider this technology, but it is very popular Uh, I I got nor the instant pot. Are you guys heard about the incident? Oh, you know what? I want to get one now. I so want to get one just for me saying that that's because so I'm a stickler when people say food tech and and all that because what they mean is it's A lot of the quote-unquote innovation is is kind of the preparation side or um Some some some sort of processing of the food Where with the insta pot, it's just the actual cooking utensil, right? Yes. It's a pressure It's a new take on a pressure cooker. It's a crock pot pressure cooker sauté Or combo. Yeah, that and what makes it great is that you it's computer controlled So you can set temperature and time and you don't need to like a baby to watch it Yeah, plus it's a lot quicker than using a standard Crock pot. Yeah, because of the pressure cooker part. Yeah, right It's probably you can cook an entire meal and like maybe 40 minutes or something like that. It's pretty pretty cool Yeah, we used it for bolognese. It was really good. So you have one. We also used it for stew Yeah, it was another president Eileen got herself That was a black friday deal though It was it was like on sale. You could get the eight quart insta pot for for like half price or something Yeah, that's great. Wow eight quarts. That's big for you guys, man We don't have a place to put it. I told her like just get the sixth quart. We don't really need eight It's like no, it's the same price Because we might you know, you might actually is very very good for parties. No, it's absolutely true It's very good for dudes like me who just want to use one thing to cook everything Although what I've heard we haven't actually used it yet, but I've heard it does not really brown well So yes, it's supposed to be one pot, but you'd probably want to brown your meat in in another way Yeah, I had to boil the spaghetti in a second pot. Yeah, it's not going to do everything for you But uh, I'm interested to see how it works. That's like the new thing. I actually Saw it in action at a party a couple months ago. My my sister-in-law brought Like all the pieces parts of a soup and the soup was supposed to be done for the party And we're like, what are you doing? You're gonna cook a soup right here, but it was done excellent in like 20 minutes. Yeah, wow Amazing that we made a beef stew Which my beef stew usually like takes eight hours in a crock pot and it took like an hour Yeah, it's amazing. It takes me all day Speaking of all day, uh, we could go on forever But uh, we're gonna say goodbye to the video Folks on youtube and catch you guys next week and everyone else who's listening on audio. Stay tuned. There's