 so we all know now who Oliver Anthony is we've we've seen you I'm sure you've all seen the video of his song Richmond north of Richmond we've discussed it on the show it was played during the Republican the Republican debate and what is you know and it's it the song itself became this anthem for for kind of right-wing YouTube show hosts or podcasters and so on and yet Oliver Anthony himself is is trying to run away from that image and run away from that completely so really interesting I mean from everything I've read about him he is a prime candidate for kind of a death of a was before this is made him you know incredibly successful he was a prime candidate for kind of a death of despair indeed he's been he claims he's in his 30s he claims he's been experiencing brain fog and getting chest pains and the reason he uploaded all these songs onto the internet not this latest song but the reason he he started uploading songs that he had written up on the internet is I mean I'll just quote him directly quote I was feeling like my body was starting to fall apart and it got to the point where I was questioning how much longer I'd be able to be around and sing these songs and do this stuff so I was like well let me just go ahead and start getting everything uploaded so at least if God forbid I die of a heart attack in my 30s there are there's some legacy there anyway so this is a guy who was seriously depressed suffering from serious anxiety which was having manifesting itself in serious health problems he you know it being doing a bunch of different manufacturing jobs in the Carolinas and Virginia in different places he had managed to save us some money and take some loans and buy some land in Virginia he was also living out of a camper that I don't know cost him something like I can't remember we had this 49 bucks or something ridiculous like that and what happened here all right and you know he's not political certainly not right wing silly didn't intend this to become a right wing thing I told you all along that this was more left than right he's just disgruntled disgruntled with his own life disgruntled with the state of politics he he actually claimed that he was upset that the songs would the song was being used at the Republican Republican debate because it was about the people up and staged it was about Republicans he was he was against them so you know this is on another there was another one another interview where he did and where this is right after song became popular and he was on Fox News and he says quote we are the melting pot of the world right and that's what makes us strong our diversity and we need to learn to harness that and appreciate it and not use it as a political tool to keep everyone separate from it so here's the the poster boy of you know the far-right anthem calling for diversity I mean yeah there's nothing right I mean there is in a sense of the modern right wing but there's nothing there's nothing to there's nothing to embrace in this song there's nothing positive about this song and you know other Anthony is is it confused he doesn't have a particular he's not a far-right guy he's probably not a far-left guy he's just pissed off and he's upset and he's upset at rich man he's upset at politicians he's upset at the working conditions he's upset at wages he's upset about his own life and it to turn this into a rallying cry pretty sad of the right anyway it turns out he's a he's kind of out one of these characters that you feel a little sorry for him that his life has turned out this way but there's no there's no political agenda you get from once you read interviews with him I mean he's not and and he's not the poster child intentionally at least he's not intending to be the poster child for right wing politics on many issues it seems quite the country