 Okay, well good afternoon. Good morning. Good evening. Good night everybody. Welcome to a good Good riddance a buckly list of us ours He's here in spirit not in body And so thus you are stuck with us and for that we all humbly apologize Yeah, the F troop How's everybody's weekend? pretty good, I suppose would have been better if all my Required parts that arrived so I could start assembling my new system, but 32 core monstrosity Yeah, it would have been better for me if it wasn't like you know a hundred percent humidity outside and Crazy hot Yeah, it was pretty warm doing the lawn work this week was a sweaty experience Sean you finally decided that your old DX to 66 Yeah, it's you know, I I was getting a little sick of the underpowered nature of my workstation the other day Because I was sitting I'm trying to do some work and it's spiked at 100% and it's it's an eight core you know Intel chip, but I'm like this is ridiculous. Everything's just getting chewed up. I don't know what's going on So then I looked up the date that the chip was released and even though it's an extreme addition Core i7 it was released in 2004 So it is well over seven years old at this point Which in a computer, you know in computer years those are like dog years So it's it's gaining a ARP benefits at this point when you can refer to to the manufacturer of date by Presidential administration The current one that it's it's usually time to Yeah, I suppose so I got permission from the wife to Low a bunch of money and get enough to put together something that'll actually get my work done Yeah, I'll remember remember on the intro apps has it that when you maxed out at 100% you were actually just editing a word document so I I Were behind The webcast budget and see if we can help you out I'm in good shape. I just need a motherboard to come in. It's the only thing. It's not here yet If there's a GoFundMe page that you want to plug at this point, you know now you're good to do that I Will eventually need a new gaming machine, but I know I'm on my own that one There you go Yeah T-shirts t-shirts, I'm not quite sure if I've worn this one Nice I like that for all the JavaScript developers out there. Yeah, I got my my band t-shirt on Naughty monkey and how's got which Olympics? Senior Olympics the senior Olympics. Yep What do they do in the senior Olympics Me I have the t-shirt I was gonna say I mean the senior Olympics if you finish the event without collapsing you win a medal It was something that the television station. I work for a sponsored baby. Oh, I don't know what 20 years ago Hmm, so it's been a while Sean wouldn't that just be finishing the event Yeah Such encouragement It's more realism than encouragement I suppose that's true. What was everyone's? Biggest takeaway from the community last week. What came out that people were happy with and excited about I'm trying to remember last week. Yeah, kind of hard to do No starts The last big excitement I saw was that a number of people were complaining that their machines updated from 1909 to 2004 without their permission. Hmm. That happened again Or they just put it off as long as they couldn't eventually the computer said no more I Haven't been offered it yet. It's sitting in the if if I bring up Update and security. It's sitting there saying well, what will release this to you one of these days And it's kind of been that way for the last month. So On the windows Yeah, and that's that's interesting Sean because I had a problem with that is I Was on the the Originally on the beta channel which used to be the best ring now. It's called no wait developer channel what you used to be the best ring And I got a build and it kept on popping up saying your build is going to expire in July 30th So, you know, this this build is going to expire. You're gonna be out of date blah, blah, blah I'm like, okay. So because I had switched back to the beta channel because it was messing up my drivers I got it down and it was just messing with the drivers. So I went back just to get an update and the next thing I know I'm getting this the latest update I don't even know what build it is But it's like, you know, my video goes all screwy my explorer crashes everything Freaking nightmare another day in the life of Windows. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, okay, so now is the time time to do a you know a recycle scrap and rebuild and dump everything and start over again Yeah, everybody loves that Yeah, it feels good when you do that It's kind of like, you know It's kind of like, you know emptying out your flushing your body if you will you know I'm just you know flushing your computer and getting all that bad junk and You know getting rid of all Yeah, I agree I Would do it more often if not for the length of time it takes me to rebuild the system I was gonna call it a cleanse, but then people would be like, you know That carries That sounds like you're you're feeding someone a lot of fruit juices for a long period It's up. Let's see what happened. Hi in fiber Are you going into that colonoscopy and you got to take drink that that liquid? Yeah, yeah Exactly the system cleanse and on that beautiful note. I will go to my favorite part last week which was which in no way shape or form is related to the the cleansing process for a colonoscopy was the the wide release of the team's New functionality which is now available in tenants worldwide, which is the new meeting experience which gets you Newbies and calls opening up in separate windows also gets you the new nav bar experience across the top and top right of your Your teams environments and the way to enable that if you're so inclined is to go to settings general under application Check off turn on your meeting experience and make sure you restart your teams environment in order to get that It is believe it or not a big difference It sounds pretty simple, but it's a big difference now wise and then you will always know if the Person whose shoulder you're looking over will have the new experience or not because if they scroll around and The nav bar is in the middle lower quadrant of the screen That's the old version the new version is top right and it is much cleaner and much faster as well But it is relative to tenants. So if you are like myself running multiple tenants Involved lots of different things you do have to do it every tenant in order to get that experience Yeah, speaking of Yeah, I'm going through the message center announcements of stuff that's going to be rolling and There's actually quite a bit on the horizon license request workflow Talking about upgrading applications to use graft graph not graft I Walkie-talkie and teams Android Yeah, that's kind of how come that's the only coming to Android. I think the walkie-talkie feature would be really cool. I mean It'd be you know for for iOS and whoever still uses a Windows phone. I Don't even think you can do that Legally they send people after you at this point. I Think it's probably going to Android just for now maybe as an initial roll out and Probably as a part-time investment or part-way investment to see whether or not it's gonna get traction and whether or not It's worth time to bring it out for iOS and develop it that way as well That would be my guess Yeah, speaking of teams. I don't know anybody From last week the big That slack brought up about teams being inferior and everything like that. There was a big Yeah, I think that was Times kind of marketing They went after big time. I mean they were just calling them all kinds of garbage So that was interesting Yeah, trying to get attention. I understand why they're doing it, but you know We were Aren't we in the middle of insight right now? Yeah, we were that was I think that's yeah Yeah, I think I think it was timed to coincide with that for maximum impact. So it's really just an eyeball catching maneuver I don't expect too much to really come from it and you know, they they can call teams inferior But you know the uptick and uptake It's versus lack, right? There's no comparison. Thanks. Thanks for that. Hal. Yeah, that was that was a good That was actually I have a button here that I push that It's actually it's what we're using instead of bleeping out Sean's comments Sniffle over yeah, we hit the button and you just hear the white space I'm gonna have to go back through and Record how sniffles that I can play it back Anybody watch basketball? So they started up the NBA that's the game with the round ball that goes into the hoop Yeah, there's a basket actually and there's a you know a bunch of guys running around the floor tossing the ball around Yeah, it's hockey move the balls bigger and the equipment is Well, well, it's not as violent as hockey. I mean you don't wear pants There's no I went to hockey, you know, I went to a fight in a hockey game broke out So anyways, I don't know if you saw it, but somebody tweeted this morning From Mike, I believe they're from Microsoft I'd have to look it up But they actually showed the new teams interface that the NBA is using because the NBA is using teams to broadcast The games but they have that they have the virtual audience in the background So they have people like it's like Looks like stands and it looks like people waving their arms and having banners up in the air And I'm like, how many NBA games do you go to where people are sitting there having banners in their hands And then one one shows a girl with a pom-pom. I'm like No I was gonna say how many NBA games do you go to where there are people there? Just in general, I mean, it's like it's like the whoever designed that took that out of like a high school or college game I mean, this doesn't happen at the NBA. That's I mean you got you got celebrities in the front row They don't show the celebrities sitting in the front row, you know, Jack Jack sitting in them, you know in stuff I it's just it's not realistic Well, it's probably because you'd have to get Jack to sign off on that and of course that will never happen So you have to go generic. Well in baseball there and this of course has nothing to do with anything We're here to talk about but anyway in baseball now the baseball is back. They're they're piping in Yeah, yeah, which is the funniest thing because it's not time properly So they just have this like hour-long track and it just goes so like when there's a pitching change It sounds like there's a home run being hit Yeah, yeah, yeah Beamed in the head and the next thing everyone's going crazy and all excited here comes There was one game where one guy bought cardboard cutouts of himself I don't know if you saw that picture in the news, but he was baseball. He was behind home plate John McDonough he bought like a hundred Cells behind themselves. Yeah, he bought a hundred and fifty cardboard cutouts of his faces of his face and put it in Seats behind home plate and it was the same guy All right, should we go to some questions here before we we lose our our readership viewership. Oh We already have The interface we've got like a whopping nine people that are tuned in right now Mind you like it goes in thousand so that's This is So we actually Those of us giving the webcast are probably it's probably half us and half other people We're tied for the viewership. It's all about the community Yeah, the people will have this to refer to for years to come makes it worthwhile, doesn't it? Yeah, absolutely There we're getting teams call merges, too. That's nice Yes, yep, you can only do that with the one-on-one so you can't like have a Big team meeting and merge it with another one so you can only go one-on-one to a group call or to a one-on-one call But you can't go group to group. Oh Yeah, so call merge gives end users the capability to merge their active unheld one-to-one call into another one-to-one call Or another group call That was one of the things on the user voice because I look I saw that on user voice and that was one of the things people said is that you should be able to take a I have a I have a team call going on with my team and I want to merge it with another team, you know You know my people talk to your people and yeah, yeah Well, maybe we'll get there eventually, but I'll take the incremental step Take anything they want to throw at us personal meetings I think teams still needs to do like breakout rooms, too, right? You can do that in the live meeting, but you can't do it in the like I'm eating out, right? Excuse me, I don't know Because I mean that just rolled. I'm not sure what the I haven't had to use it nor have I had an opportunity to use it yet so We just want sure We went through some training and we had zoom and zoom allows you to you know breakout rooms And then you can you pick and choose people to go into those rooms But we couldn't do it into with teams. That's why we had to use zoom So you got a question Eric, we got some questions here. They are rapidly coming in clearly because of the banter And just the amount of knowledge in this it's just remarkable Mark Diaz in the mail. Oh hell. Hi. I get paid by the word here guys. I don't know about you Mark Diaz. Hello, Mark Diaz task to migrate one domain into a new tenants Does anyone have any information regarding using fast track to do this or a third-party recommendation? Nais is mr. Mike Nelson. I have done fast track. I have performed fast track fast track works extremely well As long as you know, you get the handhold Because they've improved it. I should say the first time we use it about two years ago. It really kind of sucked And it required a lot of talk with between me and and Microsoft support But they have greatly improved it. I highly recommend it, you know, you want to give it a shot go ahead But using a third-party obviously you get a little bit more flexibility because fast track is really focused on You know, just getting you over there And then you have to pick and choose other pieces to bring you into that if you want to migrate other data or you know Educate your users or anything like that. That's that's not part of fast track per se It's you know, they just want to get you there. So Yeah, I mean using a third-party get more flexibility more options They were probably more expensive So it's really up to you. I my personal go-to is fast track because it's so easy I mean, I just click-click-click and boom you're gone Yeah, I've had very good luck with fast track And I mean the last time I used fast track was probably Yeah, Jesus like three or four years ago and even then it had gone through a they'd gone through multiple iterations When fast track first rolled out it was a service, but it didn't service very well or too many people when they got there When you got to the point with fast track where you had a kind of a Program manager project manager assigned to you as well as a dedicated engineer You had somebody who was responsible for helping you and carrying things out. That was a very Beneficial step by Microsoft and the fast track. I will say assuming you Don't have too many oddball scenarios that the overall success rate and satisfaction with fast track correlates very strongly with how Standard of migration you're trying to perform the more oddball scenarios and special cases You know people trying to consolidate domains during a move and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's just introducing problems and Issues left and right but since you get fast track And it used to be, you know, you knew had to you had to be moving Hundreds maybe even thousands of seats to get the fast track benefit Microsoft move that number way down So I think even like 50 or 100 seats will get you fast track help They do a good job and the best part of fast track is you're paying for the service It's worth using you know, I I'm one of those groups that helps third parties move to Office 365 and I would always recommend going with fast track before spending extra dollars to hire Consultants which may end up doing the same thing for you So that's my Recently just to add originally fast track was a responsibility of the partner right so pay And I think I froze there for a second or the team Is you know, okay Can you guys hear me? Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, you guys are like frozen on my screen anyways Originally the partner would have to pay for fast track and then the partner would charge a customer and Microsoft will only deal with a partner at the time now the customer can go directly into a track Which is you know, really convenient for them. Yeah, I agree So two thumbs up for me us I suppose There you go mark that helps Very long message here from William R. Whitney the third That's exactly what it says William R. Whitney the third. So there you go. Here we go Wanting to migrate to 365 email, but take the old email from mailboxes I only have access to the current server through OWA and I look using auto discover In the past you would specify the email server in an outlook So you could add a second email account in outlook for the new exchange server Provider and then move the mailbox from the old server to the new one and then delete the old account from outlook Hold on yes, the question hasn't come up yet Will be in a fully complete stop very soon I promise With everything using auto discover it doesn't seem that that's an option anymore What is the process to migrate to 365 email if I only have access to OWA? I want to bring over the old email, please don't say ps2. There's a caveat here Please don't say psd's mailbox. That will be a pain Thanks and kind of regards So The thing is is that I mean in order to get a mailbox I mean besides setting up 365 for mail, right? because I heard in the beginning that it's not I mean the beginning of the question was around, you know Oh, we go into OWA and we just tell it a different mail server and the new Alice. Yeah, you can't do that with 365 I mean that's and he acknowledged that But actually moving it through OWA doesn't give you anything anymore. I mean it doesn't it doesn't give you the ability to to Move that mailbox the three office 365. So OWA you got to take out of a picture in my opinion It's you need access to that mail by that mail server You need access to that Account the administration of that account in order to to move it Migrate it which you can do right inside of office 365 admin panel. You can do a migrate right from there From you know an exchange server. I'll sue me. You've got that access, of course Yes, exactly exactly, but you're not you know having OWA access doesn't That's not going to do it for you. No bueno Yeah Yeah, I mean in 365 admin panel you just go in there and you say might want to migrate a user It asks you what kind of account if it's a Google Gmail if it's a Exchange server if it's a Yahoo mail, and I don't know what out and what other options it gives you now But you just tell it and then it could tells you to you know, hey, what's the login? What's the server name and boom it starts copying mail the folders up the mail up? My suspicion is our friend might lack certain access Yeah, yeah, and in which case there's really Yeah, you're not Sadly that option you consider to be a pain might be your only option. Yeah, yeah work. It just yeah It's a pita it is it it's gonna be a pita for you, but it's he's deep pretty stinking tough sometimes. Yeah It will work on its own time and schedule. Yeah. Oh, yeah How do you want to get in there? Yeah, well, that's that's pretty much it. I mean the only other way I would I Would think about that if you don't have the admin access is basically just put both accounts in there and drag and drop You know that is outlook desktop, and you're right. That's a pain in the butt Yeah, and I have a whole lot of I owe I owe and network consumption, but Far from optimal, but it will work that it'll get the job done on its own sweet time How are we doing Riz? Two for two great two for two. We need to dump buckling more often. I mean, yeah, we're not done No comment so the next question You're thinking it though I'm about to you know, everyone knows everyone who knows me Rick Donna Mike starting to come along You know buckling will be all in for this how I think you're starting to walk Everyone who knows me knows the first thing that comes to my mind is never the first thing that I say because that that's just It's a good way to break all kinds of rules and non-disclosure things and you just you do what you have to do So everyone knows of my deep love for 80s movies, so I'm going to look And I'm gonna drop one egg and we'll see who picks up on it. So John no wiki is next. Hello, John. Thanks for watching John no wiki is in no way shape or form related to Dr. Claire Lewicki for those who may be wondering as I was Yeah, I did add on the interwebs But John has a good question. I'm actually wondering the answers to us. I'm not a security guy But if Liam's watching Liam can ping me at all be happy to share it Is there one Come on, man. Don't don't leave me hanging buddy Is there one document that lists all security settings for office 365 covering exchange and SharePoint and teams? I Don't all security setting in what capacity I mean there are a couple of Microsoft Docs articles around the topic you'll get a lot of I Mean are they looking for an explanation of the settings? Are they looking for recommended? Items to address and how to do that. I mean it's kind of a nebulous question Yes, it's a tough one. I mean Of course, there's a million pads this could go down The short answer of course John unfortunately, there's no which I'm sure you know or you wouldn't be asking for it If you haven't been access you can certainly go through all of the Administrative tabs for for SharePoint exchange teams and whatnot and you know play around But so I am I've got one of the articles that I typically use here I don't know why Mike's laughing, but I want to know why Mike's laughing because I have I know what reference you are making. Oh I would assume so after that pretty but you're wrong The early John go first, but then I'm gonna tell you you're wrong Yeah, so I don't have some have access to the chat window. So I am going to share my screen This could be a first this could be on the nationwide broadcast that we are sharing a screen So This is the Microsoft Docs article I'm configuring your 365 tenant for increased security. It's a good starting place It's not everything, but you'll notice of course over on the lab Over on the left, it's part of a section that goes into office 365 security Protecting against threats. So these are a series of articles that we'll talk about The areas within 365 that provide information Different settings how these are applied how they work together and This reading it's probably about a half hour to an hour's worth of reading Minutes this is a minute. That's this article Slow reader Mike, I'm sorry. I am a slow reader no doubt, but that's just this article that we're looking at right here So doc stop Microsoft comm en us or if you just go and search for Let's see here office 365 security settings It'll get you, you know down there once you get past all the paid ads and everything That's where I would suggest starting there. There's good advice in there. You'll also find, you know, depending on how Depending on what your real need is if we're talking about firewall settings white listing by URL white listing IP ranges trusting traffic I know there's an article That covers all of that stuff in exhaustive detail that is kept up to date It is obnoxiously long and the fact that it's kept up to date. It's nothing short of amazing So I would reach out to us if you need, you know reach out to me or the entire Group on Facebook and I will be able to Point you Do we have a group email? We don't I believe we do we you know We can read the posts on Facebook and reply and I've done that before so Facebook is evil. I don't use Facebook Yeah, I understand but that's where this group is nine. It's you know, we can do we will actually assign Christian Buckley a Hi, that's all opposed So let's let's talk about his reference anybody else get it. Hold on. I haven't assigned the task yet Okay, so Buckley's task will be to assign a group email address to the community office hours And that will automatically get forwarded to all of us and we can respond accordingly. Thank you Yeah, all in favor Reluctantly because I don't get enough email as it is right now No one said you had to respond to it. It was just a way for the people to reach out all opposed Passes all right, Mike Nelson on the reference Anybody else get it. Did either of you get it? Dr. Claire Lewicki No, I didn't see First off first off Dr. Claire Lewicki in this this particular movie she was hot The reason why it was brought up It's actually it was actually days of thunder She was seen there's thunder, but the problem is is that Riz is wrong Because he said that it was he's all hyped up and knowledgeable about 80s movies days of thunder was made in 1990 So He's a Days of thunder is not a movie. I would see anyway. I you know, I'm not unless we're talking a What's his face Ricky Bobby Let's we're talking Ricky Bobby. I Ricky Bobby Yeah, unless we're talking about a movie made with him and racing I have no desire to see a racing movie Let alone one that Tom Cruise is in Yeah, we need somebody we need somebody with the last name Lundergaard because if we if we get somebody at that We're gonna talk about that for like 10 minutes I'm glad I don't get that reference either I Do enjoy John the fact that you didn't know that was a Tom Cruise movie Yeah office space. I like office space with me Tpler. You can run, but you can't hide buddy Your colors are coming out there Here I thought Mike I thought you were gonna draw some sort of relationship between John Nowicki and Claire Lewicki which would have been incredibly impressive but a lot There we are. That's Nicole Kidman, man. It is, you know Can't touch that that's hot stuff. That's like Real prime real estate We're not showing ourselves to be a guys show right now Christopher E. Hayes has a question about message encryption And his question does anyone else come across issues with message encryption some recipients outside of our domain report issues with opening an encrypted message When they have to get a secondary code to open that message can't seem to narrow it down to why it works for some and not for others so message encryption Are we talking about Azure Information protection we talking about sending um Signed and encrypted messages. Are we talking about Office 365 says right from outlook where you can do the encryption right from all Okay, um, so I know there are multiple ways to send encrypted messages. Um, one of them relies on um rights management Where you end up with an asymmetric key pair and that is handled transparently behind the scenes then this one's Outlook encryption It's not so much encryption as it is, you know the Message is replaced to a link to go online And connect on the server so that nothing's ever sent and you enter a code in order to see that message That's where I think the problem is because they mentioned actually in that question about the code They worked with some people and the work doesn't work for others now That could be the domain issue On the exchange on the online exchange online situation where Their particular domain isn't allowed to interact with secure messages And that's actually a setting in 365 security or exchange online security You have blacklists and whitelists for that. Um, so that that's a possibility their ip could be blacklisted Because if they had what they call uh dmik or um spf security if their ip or a portion of their domain name or Any reference is blacklisted they could be You know not able to access that Yeah, that's just a possibility So yeah, so what I would suggest at this point And see if you agree mike is if you're getting reports that people certain people can't Uh, open that email or get the code correctly Gather up the list of people are in their email addresses and talk to your admin To see if they're whitelisted Yeah, by extension blacklisted And I think it like you said it needs to be resolved at that level well, not only that but when I experienced it because You some folks know this is that when you send a We get emails that are encrypted from people on our distribution list every once in a while And then all of a sudden this big flood of hey, I get this code and everything and try and open it up Um, it actually gives you an error code Yeah, you know, it tells you what the error was but then you get an error code sometimes Microsoft, you know, you go and google that error code and you get good information and sometimes you get crappy information So, uh, I you know, I'd like to know what that error code is Sure That makes sense But that's uh, so that's a few things to try Um, I don't know that it any, you know, it's kind of hard with the limited information to accurately assess it but I would say of the Problems you're trying to solve that is the much easier situation than trying to deal with Asymmetric encryption and managing keys with folks who don't have the tools to process those It's like pgp keys, right? It's just like the you know, exchange you pgp keys for files or email or whatever Yeah, the the office system that the The benefits of uh, rights management is that you know with pgp you've got to manage all those key rings and uh Manually and the nice thing with the azure rights management is the key rings Are handled entirely behind the scenes So you're not adding anybody's public key to in trying to encrypt against that using your private key That's all a manual operation with pgp, but with azure rights management. It's it's Supposed to be seamless and not something you ever have to even be aware exists, but When you're dealing with folks who don't have the necessary software or they haven't downloaded the azure rights management add-on To help with that in the background. That's a miserable task to deal with Okay, we're getting close to the hour We did start a bit late and we do have a lot more questions. So let's see if we can bang through a few more of these Mr. William Kunkel Sure, this is interesting. I've had this happen Um, and I don't really have a solution. I just kept doing it until it worked. So Brian Brian had emailed tomorrow iOS device I have mfa enabled on my account. We are a hybrid setup. My account Is in the cloud. I love this is a great question because it's it's Answers exactly what the questions we would ask would be outlook immediately hops over to microsoft authenticator and errors out I do not have app passwords enabled Spark shows a certificate error when trying to add if I continue I get a message about stable connection could not be established Mail for iOS works just fine What to do? Okay, I'll start by saying what you shouldn't do Don't go to an app password That with mfa you're just essentially Creating a weak link by using an app password Which for those who aren't familiar with it and multi-factor authentication scenarios an app password is a way to get Applications and systems that are not mfa aware to work with it And the way it does it is essentially gives you a cryptic password That doesn't change and bypasses the two factors of On authentication So it's actually weaker than just having a normal password that changes. It's set once and used and anybody who gets that They've got access to your system. So don't use app passwords Aside from that I don't use iOS and i'm not familiar with a particular Problem being described you guys how about you Now anything No, not really. Um, the thing of it is about app passwords in a lot of cases. You're kind of stuck doing that If you have a gmail or a yahoo account or something like that um You have to have pretty much you have to use a 2fa and um In a lot of cases well outlook for is a good example of it If you're trying to connect to one of those accounts you pretty much have to use an app password Um in those instances, I would recommend get an mfa aware application I mean I I utterly hate app passwords because I can't tell you the number of times People talk about Somebody getting access to their systems Well, we have multi-factor authentication enabled and we talk through it and eventually it comes down to this app Password was compromised And the person has carte blanche to act as you In the system if they've got that app password and they go through that application So I would almost recommend find a different application. That's mfa aware because you're you're working against yourself You're undoing the benefit that mfa brings But um, yeah, I know it's some apps aren't out there I would argue that the number of applications it used to be, you know, microsoft rolled out mfa. I enabled it You know, you couldn't even start up An admin power shell session to the tenant if you had mfa enabled you had to create another account that didn't have Have mfa microsoft fixed the situation with most of their applications and made them mfa aware so that you can properly Leveraged that and signed in without issue um I'm not aware. You know mf mfa and problems it right now. It's typically Legacy apps that are no longer being maintained that were Released before the advent of mfa and they simply they haven't been updated and they don't know how to deal with that Most of microsoft's apps do And they do it pretty well now. We've worked through that. I want to say we've been clear that problem for a couple years now so, you know to that You know enough rambling about that, but I would just recommend finding out that's mfa aware anybody else have any suggestions or No, I got nothing on this thing And that's all I have to say about that I'll have to say about that I started off that question by saying that I had the same problem and my solution to it was actually this too good old reboot I ended up just restarting my phone Um, and when everything came back up seemed to be happy so Which application on your phone there? Well authenticator primarily Okay, authenticators where it freezes Okay For what email application we're using how look I'm sorry. I was just saying I generally have I use probably half a dozen different authenticators everything from You know, it'll issue the codes to the microsoft authenticators that you just you know approve or deny blah blah blah I've had pretty good luck with it, but I'm sorry. That's neither here nor there. We can move on. I beat the horse to death enough already all right Stacey Morrison from the los angeles california has a question We are a small non-profit unit teams and are thinking about trello to track new projects and individual tasks Anyone using trello or can suggest a different app Um, you have planner Yes, and for what it's worth the trello plugin for our teams works quite well Yeah, I mean I use trello for quite some time and Between uh, you know Planner is going to give you 90 of what trello does trello has been in the space a lot longer And I know that a lot of folks who don't have 365 Um use trello still kind of like howl said the plugin works wonderfully Um, but I've not found anything that either if you want to go lightweight microsoft tasks is a great way on a personal level And then planner is a great way. Uh, that does I would say 80 to 90 of what trello does but it's within the o365 or m365 Eco sphere and works with all your other office apps as well. So that's a benefit Agree We agree interesting question here from chris chris. I'm not going to try to Pronounce your last name out of out of fear But uh chris v. He isn't victor. This is for you. How's the last name spelled? There's a lot of consonants a lot of consonants Um, very few vowels. So chris v. I mean chris if this is your question that you know, it's you Uh, I'm looking for a while now But where can I download a copy of one note to install on my laptop? If I read directly the one note for from the windows store is limited in functionality But the latest I can find is one of 2016 And I know the latest is 2010 and then my o365 portal It isn't available for download help So One note.com forward slash download That picture one 2016 it is available right now. There is no outlook the one note 2019 that I'm aware of Uh, uh, one note 2016 is current. It is maintained. It is what they are currently working on And like I say, it's free download. So no problem. Go there get it Yeah, I'd like to take a couple seconds though to address the one note in the windows store I you know for the longest time I was using the 2016 one note client Because I tried to use the Windows app and I kept running into problems at some point along the way Microsoft made enough changes that I can easily use the the windows app Excuse me, not the download with the windows store app And I'm not having any problems at all. I manage multiple accounts. I've got multiple one note notebooks I've got various trusted accounts And I can move between them regardless of who I'm logged in as I really don't have any issues with it. So if if you haven't looked at it in some time You might give it a try I don't know about you guys. Have you gone back to look at it at all? Oh, yeah, is it at all? Yeah, I use them both They they each have a couple of things that the other doesn't have which makes it kind of worthwhile having them both around Yeah, I You get a little bit better graphics and a few other and some of the pan and draw things out of the out of the uwt the wind the windows app the Desktop type application that you download will allow you to do to work with local files, which the Which the windows client will not um, so there's there's but and and the feature set really is becoming pretty much the same In in they're listening to the outlook product the I got that on my brain. I guess the one no product team One of the things that I'll say is I've gone through the same thing where I convert converted between them and the windows 10 store One didn't work for me. So I went back to desktop But one thing I will say is I I said this once before as I was in evernote, right? So I use evernote for years And there was no way to export. I mean to import from evernote into window And uh for for many years up until 2016 in the 2016 version And one of the problems was around 2010 or 2013 The only way was use a third party somebody had developed one, you know You know go search and somebody developed a a macro or something that went out and converted it But the issue was is that it wouldn't work with the with the the store app It only worked with the full desktop. So I kind of stuck with it because that's the only way I still have Some information in evernote that I still haven't brought over. So I like whenever I need to import that stuff I mean Microsoft never took the step and I it makes no sense to me to have that importer built in I mean because that's their biggest competition wouldn't make just sense. Oh, hey, we want to we want to convert you We want to migrate you over to one note We got this really easy, you know conversion tool that'll just bring everything. Oh, he never did that It didn't make sense I'm guessing that the reason that didn't happen is just because The product teams are so Busy trying to deliver stuff on the roadmap and fix problems and everything that it probably just never got prioritized And there weren't enough people in user voice yelling about it Well, it's not a user voice thing though But it's a sales thing because if you think about it They're trying to get people away from paying ever know of 99 bucks a year or whatever they're paying And get them over to one note, you know, and that's At least at least the company that I'm working with everything is about whatever you can do To sell whatever you can do to you know sell the product I mean the things other things on the roadmap like the things the niceties that users want kind of take a backseat So it's just it's a little weird. I agree with you Mike. I yeah, I don't know why other than just All the different things You go out and look at roadmap. It's like Jesus That is one hell of a a list and a group of people that must be working on this stuff. So just out of curiosity Do any of you guys still actively aside from your use case, Mike? Do any of you actively use ever note these days? I just have my archives in there I don't know Yeah, I was a Evernote user for a while, but I also I want to say since My days of you know, I had a an old surface pro original I was a big One note user back when that thing still worked Before microsoft's update bricked it. I had a perfectly functional surface pro Took it into the store And they were going to try and wipe the image because I apparently they released a huge update That was doing it on the wire and that update ran and it no longer booted and the guy at the microsoft store Their tech could not get it going either. So it just became a heavy paperweight Which was too bad because it's still functioned So how are we doing riz? Are we over? We were a little over noon here Oh, we are so over on the east coast. So let's uh, let's wrap up this fun and excitement here We do have a few more questions, but uh to be honest I don't see anything that we're able to answer quickly slash Out of the park Maybe get them tonight Yeah, most of them have have other questions We'd have to respond with to get more details to get to a solution. So On that note any anyone looking forward to anything this week that's coming out or doing anything cool I put my machine together Yeah, I mean From a microsoft perspective, I haven't heard uh, they announced everything last week around azure stack hci and stuff like that. So Um, I don't know of anything that's really coming out. They didn't a new whack extension I don't know if anybody uses whack windows administration uh center for servers, but uh, they announced one version 2007 was released last week Whack is whack Whack is whack it's it and it's actually the next generation of the admin or windows servers and domains and stuff like that And people don't know, you know the the terminal the the microsoft councils are going away Yeah, they're emerging, right? Yeah, they're merging and the whack is going to take over but uh, what's interesting is I I I actually pinged Um, the senior product manager on twitter and said hey I'm trying to download the whack and you got this paywall in front of it Or you actually have to fill out your information and get spanned by microsoft just to get it and I thought it's kind of That was kind of chintzy by them, but Did you hook up brother up? Yeah Are you still trying to get it? No, no, I said somebody posted a you know, hey, you can go to this aka.ms link and you'll get it directly. So That's cool sweet I love aka.ms anything else hell any exciting going on Nope, uh, there is one other question that uh, I wanted to get at real quick that you have a peer that you bypassed and uh If I can just get things to cooperate here, uh, that's from gassana of dull. I know Yeah Anytime the outlooks this outlook cannot log on verify you are connected to the network I'm using the profits river mailbox name the microsoft exchange service in your profile is missing They're required information modify your profile. That means you've got a bad profile Your profile's been damaged. So you need to create new outlook profile. That's pretty much that You need to recreate yourself Or nuke the ost potentially there's a slightly lighter weight measure, but um, the other thing I want to add to that howl is This is very important to mention for people who might be relatively new to outlook or see this and not understand what's going on oftentimes Outlook will prompt you for a mailbox password and say you entered it wrong and you'll go back and forth and keep trying to do this Ask your admin if there are any known outlook issues in your tenant at the time because authentication that outlook does internally out to um Office 365 and exchange online if there are any authentication issues Because these these happen quite often uh, you'd be surprised Ask your admin if there's anything going on with either authentication and sign on or exchange because You chances are I would give it pretty good odds that if you go out there, you'll see something like, um Exchanges in a recovery state or deprecated state for the time being and they're working on it But your admin can tell you that looking at the Console so and that the basically the the message is they're pointing on service health But that's one thing and a lot that'll save you a lot of problems because I mean I've watched my wife do this numerous times I've gotten caught doing it Um, and after a while, I'm like, I know it's the right password I should be able to get on and I'll go look and I'm like I hate you Well on that upbeat note, uh, we shall I said I'm dealing with Sean's anger. We're going to bid everybody uh idea and a lovely week I'm a very mellow guy I'm a very mellow guy when I'm not really angry When my eyes aren't shining and wide. That's right All right. Well, thanks everybody gentlemen. Thanks for tuning in buckley We love you Good talking to you guys. See you. Have a good week everybody. We'll chat tonight Yep Well, I see the big hh bubble bubble here. So that's always good. There we are All right. Well, we'll officially begin. It sounds like uh, Sean can't uh, can't be here. I think Eric, you know, he needs his 12 hours full 12 hours of beauty sleep So he likely won't be joining I know if Mike will be joining it might howl just be the two of us But uh It's all right. Um Maybe we'll kick things off. I'll share my my t-shirt. So I was I've got a couple things to to share but if you can see here Of course the classic Dr. Who shirt and uh, because I have uh, you know, this is the first time That all four of my kids have been together Uh since over three years ago Uh, oh there's Stacey Hey stacey Hi I don't have to look highly presentable, do I? No, no, we're just we're just here talking. I was just uh, was just sharing that So this is the first time all four of my kids have been together in over three years Since before my youngest two boys boy, you know, both went on out of country missions church missions and and uh, so we're all together up at uh, uh, Deer Creek reservoir here in Utah and uh, you know, but but my wife had Our garage is a staging area of all of their boxes all of their crap from they're growing up And it's basically like you must go through all of this this week And whatever you don't take we're throwing away. We're cleaning out our garage. We're tired of it You called it crap, but yet how many? Records and old mementos. Do we see and hear from mr. Buckley all the time? Oh, yeah, yeah So my my crap is a different thing, you know, but uh, no, it's nice though That is the kids were going through there's a bunch of toys and a bunch of things and And they're like, well, we can't throw this out. We can't give this away to the thrift store That'll want that one of them was The of course Okay There we go. Yes, dad will want that That's not going anywhere. Yeah But uh, but anyway, uh, yeah, that's it stacey. How are things going with you? Today was my first day back to work I almost worked a full day I by 4 30 I was essentially done Um, so I was like and then I remember sitting on the couch and then I remember waking up at six o'clock So, yeah, well, I I like those days Yeah, yeah, so we're in the countdown now eight weeks from friday As long as the blood results come back. I can get my New shoulder in so that's great Oh, I don't envy you that Uh, no, because it'll be my 13th surgery and my third recovery from infection Well, we have talked about this stacey You know, when you have the the bionics installed because we all know that's what's happening Just remember with great power comes great responsibilities. So I I expect you to do share point office related office species five related stuff and fight crime On it on it. Yeah, you know, because I am half bionic because not only in my shoulder my knee is titanium, right? So I go. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm half bionics. I got this. I got this Excellent and I got two side kicks instead of one yoda and khaleesi. So I've got yeah, we're good. Nice Well, um before we get so we get a few questions. I know that we're left over from this morning, which uh, Uh, I wasn't able to join uh, anybody anybody that you know knew that joined this morning session I didn't join this morning because I had a another meeting but how were you on this morning? Yes, I was Who else joined you this morning the first half um Let's see usual subjects Suspects pretty much Sean was on i'm assuming Sean riz Mike nelson Did neil show up No, I did not. Okay It's been really hard for me not to be able to join but some days you guys really didn't want to see me Um No worries But uh, I uh, I'm like, oh my god. I work today. I'm feeling okay I think I can give an hour to christian and hal and go hang out and see how things are going So I've got some good questions that have got queued up I was looking just looking to see if anything new came in maybe start that off Is anything come up with either of you today that you want to discuss any questions that have been posted or post We've been working on the game plan for the whole 2010 workflow thing um Because why don't you give the background for I don't think that was discussed this morning. So um, so starting november 1st all 2010 workflows and office 365 will cease to work any longer Um, which means we've got some big updates coming after november 1st, which will prohibit them from physically working Um, which I think has some to do with the new lists and stuff like that that are coming out and and whatnot Um on-prem stuff will still work till they say 20 uh 26 But as we all know that that date is never uh, it always happens much sooner than than they tell us um, so we're trying to put a plan together to where To get these people interested for one so that they do it so that they don't get stuck down into like the week or two weeks before They no longer work is to run the assessment piece for free for them Assess what they're looking at that they have to have fixed. Hey, you're using these you're not using those So it's a cleanup method plus Identify what they really need to get updated So they know how to plan from now till the 1st of november Because we have to come up with scenarios like that. Otherwise people will wait till the last minute Um, it just never never fails. It happens And and so we feel like if we can do that piece for free because we have pieces scripted already So it makes it pretty easy less than an hour. We have all the information and we've got it identified and we can estimate it out for them So that's well worth it Because that whole last minute thing not only is a burden on the clients because they waited till last minute But we're always the ones that they come to when hey stuff breaks So if we can help, um, that's what we're trying to do. We've sent We've sent out the large email constant contacts. What's going to happen dates and all that kind of stuff How to reach out to us? We've already done that We're going back to all of our clients within the last five years And making actual personal emails Because well, most of the clients are still clients Um, but we're going to be running them not only in office 365 But on their on-prem so that they can plan it and budgeting and stuff like that So they're really not waiting until the last minute. So that's it. You just maybe think it's something too that you're running around Obviously, you've got a consulting company. So you have tools and scripts that you use to go and identify that with your clients What do you recommend for others that you know aren't working with a consulting company? Are there tools that are a good place to go and because I know some of the migration tools is part of the pre migration analysis They kind of provide that and you can if you own some of those You can get that that you know the benefit by Doing analysis of your system, but the sharegate tool you can run the workflow report and that's free So you don't actually have to own a license of sharegate to actually run some of their reports And one of the reports you can run is the workflow report It will tell you if it's 2010 2013 or whatever It won't tell you what pieces are no longer going to work But the thing is is microsoft has actually provided you a utility to do that In the uh constant contacts that we sent out and I can send it to you because we literally have it all laid out And has the url to that. Yeah, you've got a link paste it in the chat right here and I'll I'll share it over And I'll share it over in the live stream So we are and for those that are watching too on facebook We're in a couple different locations on facebook in one of the live streams If you've got a question you want to ask go ahead and post it to the chat in the um, I've got the You know over on my page as well as in the Office 365 community and the microsoft teams community the collab 365 communities Um, so I've I've shared out the the video in both of those locations as well So there's a watch party going on so go ahead and and ask your questions post your questions there as well Yeah, I'm trying to find it here for you. I just had britney re sent it. Oh, okay um Shoot, I don't know because she sent it out via email. I'm just going to forward you Email and if and however you want to post that out there. How's that? Yeah, perfect And I'll provide the link in the blog post as well. So Yeah, and so again if somebody that's new that's watching this so we had this morning session We we have two times every monday at 8 a.m. And 6 p.m. Pacific Uh, so this is the second half of our episode 19 Uh, I should buy tomorrow afternoon. I should have both of them Up on youtube, I'll post to facebook and all the other social channels But I'll actually go through and provide a link list and so links like this I'll also provide in the body of the the blog post so you can go out to buckleyplanet.com and you'll find The office hours series on there And it's a great way you don't have to watch All the videos the hours of videos you can check through the link list Find a problem that we've discussed and jump to it I have to tell you I watch a lot of them just because I mean I feel bad because I want to join but I knew I couldn't For a while But I actually watched them. So if if you haven't watched them They're great to just if you've got some time just to go through them because it's interesting You can be in a random conversation which you guys you guys do a lot. We always do that And something will come up in one of those random conversations And you just never think about it So if you get the time you just watch the whole thing because it's always entertaining regardless Well, we try to entertain that's that's part of it. It's part of the value That's that's why you pay the big dollars to be able to watch this There you go. Um, well here, so why don't we do this? So uh, so with that I don't know anything else to stacy did to add on that um The other thing so in addition to the workflows, I'm assuming you've heard about the whole stream thing around education Uh, it's being on stream and educated. I've been offline for like four days. So okay, so uh stream In the education room. I believe it's the a1 plan no longer will the stream videos as of august 20th Go immediately out to stream. You are forced to manually do it It's going to depend on which license you have now in education if it'll actually go out into stream um I think the main reason is is because if you think about as we a lot of us record some of our meetings and whatever How many people actually are going out there and giving permissions to everybody? Publishing them so for uh people who are in education or have smaller environments They're taking up resources that they don't need maybe only one person needed it So they're making you take an action on it But it is license based We have another so like the email that I just sent Sent you I have another one coming out around the stream stuff. I'll send that over to you as well Because that starts up as of august 20th. So what I want to do is some type of a webinar kind of thing is how do you plan for that because one of the things that Education And it may expand more than education. It's just hitting education on the 20th Is setting up some of the consistency in your stream like with your groups, right? So setting up groups for different things setting up Your distribution lists so making it easy once you put them out there that certain people already have access So you don't have a lot, you know, so the people are actually can utilize them and you're making it easy for them Otherwise, you're just going to have random people putting random permissions and random groups and all that kind of stuff You know, we talk about some of that randomness of Stream and of course, you know permissions and you know, all these different topics that we discussed but stream in particular I know that question we've seen pop up again and again is about the anonymous access and still no updates on on that Microsoft is well aware of that But actually the next question that I have is stream related. So we kind of roll right into this So liz marie asks is it true that microsoft teams has free data usage for learners now? Free data usage for learners now I saw this in an article somewhere that teams won't cost them any data anymore, but want to make sure I had no idea what she was talking about well That will need to be dug into a little further because I also believe that it's Education versus regular licensing type of stuff. I think it's a lot. There's licensing that's based on that And some other things so there's a lot more to that comment than just It's going to be free. There's a little bit more to that If you want I can look it into it and then next week we can talk about a little bit more Yeah, sure. Yeah, if you've got a link to that. Yeah, that was news to me So I wasn't I didn't read all of the updates. I still have a backlog of email to go through To find out if there's something around that so Yeah, yeah, so liz marie if you've got any other specifics around your question Feel free to to you know add on to that and I'll look and see maybe somebody's commented since I captured this last night All right, so the next one also teams meetings recordings related so all kind of in this General area will ask what do you do with requests from users to edit teams meeting recordings? For example cut a section out of the video Do you have them do it themselves? If so what editing tool or do you have a resource that will do this for them? So inside a stream So depending on what piece they're wanting to cut out like if it's the beginning You know how sometimes there's chit chat that begins at a meeting and you really just start Not our videos But say you got like two minutes of just general chit chat But once you actually start with the training you have an option in there to say start at minute one You know full in 32 or whatever But if it's something that you're in the middle of Then you're just going to have to take some any kind of video editing tool as long as it works in stream Which most of them do I haven't found one yet that doesn't work Honestly came tasia works The adobe stuff. Yes, they all work just take the video cut it and splice it like you do it And then just re upload it to stream yeah Yeah, that's uh, well, I mean in part of the question too, you know, depending on what kind of meeting you're talking about Giving people the ability to do that versus you as the owner I mean, obviously I wouldn't just allow that open that up to to anyone I mean typically it's the owner of the meeting of that resource Or the admin who has the ability to go and do that Um, but I mean you can always designate somebody to go in and Clean up the edits of those recordings so that your archives are Clean and maybe you know at that point when you upload re upload in the stream and it has that transcript You don't have the rest of that fluff You know, you know that big word around all that's called right my favorite word in the world the um I did say governance. Yes Yeah, governance for your stream, right because you just don't want anybody to have the ability to do that A lot of times stream is taken over by the training area of companies if a company has a training department They're the ones that takes over that or whoever's in charge of those things some things if it's it related like So we actually have some companies now that as they're doing support for users and they're sharing screen They're recording it and they're saving them as how-to's right So support on those because supports the one that's doing them So they're able to modify only those But when it comes to full trainings that is the training department or whoever is owning mouse That's it for people that aren't doing that. That's actually your example is It is the fantastic way of utilizing stream and adding to your knowledge base So you can do those kinds of support calls you can edit out the customer entirely Pose the question capture the question and then have like the the explanation captured And if it's internal only you can leave the client You know material in there, but have the entire discussion. It's automatically transcript It then makes it searchable within your knowledge base And you reference it in multiple ways. It's just a great way to build on to that support content So that when a support person is going in trying to resolve an issue They can do a search for and find these prior discussions And uh, maybe you know, you need to make sure that you've tagged or flagged that that content Like open question or resolved issue or whatever it is So that's why I use like the new modern sites and build a training site with the new modern sites Because there's so much you can do with those and be interactive The other thing I love about stream is you only have to record it once and then I can Then I can turn it into german or french or you know some other language as well with not a whole lot of extra work We've already done the hard work when we recorded it the first time Right, um, and we've made life easier that way But then by using a modern site and you can use like the discussion type of thing And if you go into the you know, the actual training itself you can put comments in there Um, it did you like it all that kind of stuff and it's just and you're keeping it together So it's not sporadic part of it to your part of it's there all that kind of thing It makes life a lot easier. Um, I have a number of clients that are doing that for their training right now And they said that they're training The number of people that are actually doing training now has doubled and they just really started with it And to me, I thought that was huge because I thought was hot The number was higher than what I expected considering they've only been doing it a few short months But the fact that the videos are short and sweet and that's like, how do I Create a list and then in two minutes they learn how to create a list or how to do something And they're off and running right So they're learning at a much faster pace now than they ever have before because they've had to listen to an hour Two or three hour video and then they can't remember what they actually went in there to learn to begin with So, um training type of things have really increased here lately with stream How are you using stream at all? Oh once in a while, um When we have company meetings occasionally if somebody does the show and tell I'll record that that Not Not an impression about appreciable about amount yet. Yeah It's one of those I mean, I keep recommending to clients that you know for staff meetings for Consultant meetings like record every single one of those capture every single one of those Uh, and so I actually have Um this reminder and it's for those meetings with clients. It's on a sticky on my monitor It record. I have the same type of thing And it's specifically it's just a room so I so I'm saying that over and over again So that we don't lose that because that happens all the time where we're 20 minutes into discussion And then we'll be like, you know, one of us we like We're not recording this are we saying all right, then we'll go back and and discuss what we've already covered And then kind of start from there. So just just make it the default To record it's annoying sometimes you'd be like, yeah, we don't need to record this and to hit stop I'm telling you it's better to do that Then not have the record and lose that uh that content Am I allowed to make a man joke being that I have five brothers and I'm the only sister Sure Well, plus my share point community brothers. I have a bunch, right? Yeah So what I have learned that, um Is many Individuals that I work with that are of the male species says, oh, I took notes I wrote notes down and then you know a week later. I'm like, did you do that? No, we never had that conversation You said you were taking notes So, uh, you know, I left for well, I left longer than I was supposed to We didn't know that my infection was going to be so bad and I'd end up in the covid unit for a week. Um, so Yeah, so But you know, I had provided all the information to my current projects to the appropriate people And what I found is the people that recorded the sessions that we had They did everything that was in the in the discussion all the checklist items got done The ones who said I'm taking notes only half of it got done Yeah, um, and it was a difference literally between the males and the females Because I have males on my team that they will read the first question And they will reply to the email and answer the first question and they literally didn't read the five other questions So if you want them to answer all five, we literally have to send them five different emails And then when we tell them that that's what we did, they're like No, and we go back and show them and they have zero idea that they I really love some of the modern meeting stuff that that we'll be seeing Especially coming out of teams and stream Where it'll start, you know, the ai will pull that data out And so, you know to to be able to see that and I know we're we're starting to see A little bit of that and the transcription and the translation services are part of what we saw what five years ago When microsoft Four or five years ago where they did the meeting of the future And they did it even did it on live on stage at a couple different events. I think the the one i'm thinking about The more recent one was at uh inspire like three years ago I think it was three years ago. Anyway, time is meaningless now. Who knows? But anyway, where they're sitting there and and it's able to pick up the Crosstalk that's happening within the meeting And where they you know, something is asked for a task is assigned and it recognizes that Kate is asked steven for to follow up on something and do by a certain date and it picks up on that Yes Yeah, so I mean I I can't wait for that level of detail and I know that there are some and I've seen ads for them There are a couple third party tools that do that today and make that available If you're looking for that kind of capability, um, you can go and pay for that. No idea what that stuff costs But uh, that's the kind of stuff that will likely be coming in the you know, e3 e5 licenses Eventually, so I'm excited about you know that the future of meetings Just for that kind of stuff and if it's going and automatically creating Simple workflows and follow-ups if it's creating planner cards and tasks and making those assignments um, I mean and and so you walk out of that meeting and be able to see here are the 10 things that I was asked to go and do And uh, and then you can that verify Dates do dates and what are the specific kpis for each of them, but have a discussion Yeah with the client with your manager. I think it's fantastic. Yeah, your flow kicks off It creates the task it assigns it to you you get your email and I am a happy person, right? Yeah So I have a question for you guys, um, you know because I haven't talked to a lot of people during the whole Covid thing considering my stuff happened right when it uh when it started um, so I've had uh, I hired an intern um Before the Covid stuff. Um, and I think you know i'm christian. So, uh, mike mattarani's son omar Is an intern for my company. Oh, I didn't know that man. I know mike, but yeah, I know that about his son So our omar has been an intern. He's a freshman in college Or university and in Ottawa as they call it, right? Um, and so he's an intern and I tell you he's been doing an amazing job. So one Boy, did I luck you on an intern? Yeah, yeah And two just uh, so some of the things getting omar Up to speed has been relatively easy, but it also made me think about You know bringing other interns on especially during this Covid time where we're a little We've been busy. Don't get me wrong. We've been busy But also a better opportunity to bring another intern on board getting them trained up and everything and um, so I actually uh, a senior from northern kentucky university Um, oddly enough, it was a very weird thing. So I hired a dog sitter to come in Occupy my dogs for at least four hours a day to get them exercised because I can't do a lot of things I can't walk them because of the clots that I had and all this stuff. So um And then she was telling me about her boyfriend and he picked her up one day and him and I got into a conversation Here he is as a senior at northern kentucky university in cyber security So we start talking and of course azure comes up Office 365 admin panel with compliance and security and all these things come up and we realized that we really had this mesh And he's been slinging ice, you know, because that was his been his summer job. And I'm like, well How about an internship? You're going to be a senior. Have you not done an internship? And I guess northern kentucky has not done the greatest job at getting people internships And we're a part of the northern kentucky chamber of commerce. So it really surprised me So I brought him in and had him interview and we all went hire this dude, right? So We hired him and today is his official work. We're he'll work 40 hours this week And just from the stuff with me being low key these last few weeks. I've been able to ramp him up And today I literally handed him an assessment for a company a rather large company I said, here's the report Go and do what, you know, I've told you we do for assessments He came back to me an hour and a half later and I was like, damn it looked like I did this assessment So it's like where I'm able to focus to get him more up to speed But he watched the videos on the admin trainings that we've done Other trainings from sharepoint saturday or whatever we call them people that have recorded some of those events He's been watching those and I am just super impressed with the fact that there are kids that are in college right now That want to do exactly what we're doing and they're not being given the opportunity to do so So this will be my second intern so which they're a cheaper cost, right? But I mean, I've already given Omar a raise because he's sitting there doing the work of A a senior SharePoint solutions architect and an MVP, right? So I'm like I feel felt really bad. So I gave him a raise But I think we need to focus more on some of these younger kids And especially the fact that we have stream and recording a lot of this training and all stuff This is a great way to train up some of these interns and get them get them on board Well, you know that uh, so mark jones So with collaboris and runs the cloud 365 Communities and runs for those that don't know, you know So collaboris and cloud 365 are the ones that run the two facebook communities that we Stream into and answer questions from as part of this this series Um, and they also that's the team for those that remember the sp 24 event and now run the uh, The global con event so global con 3 is coming up free great resources out there But as part of the global con 2 2 they went and hired somebody like new completely green no experience with any of this technology And to basically did kind of a 30 day challenge And where he's building apps and building solutions and had a very similar experience. I think that is It's funny. We used to talk about how the share point community Specifically, but I think it's broad and of course across these different areas and how I don't know what it was like in just the Office world and some of these other areas, but the community around it We used to talk about the fact that a lot of the community was built Because there was such a lack of help and content for microsoft So the community came together to solve it because microsoft wasn't solving that Right. I don't know if that's your experience how? Pretty much Yeah, I mean It's really evolved and changed. We've got tools microsoft is doing a fantastic job. Of course the community hasn't stopped Um, and so but you you do have a lot of the resources Especially on docs.microsoft.com a lot of that content that is you know, there's no names on it It's just microsoft content. It's being written by mvp's by members of the community Partners are putting that together. So microsoft is You know is is paying the bills to pull that together because they know it's essential to have that kind of content Um, you know, I've written some stuff. I know most of us have you know for for those resources It's it's great to be able to add to that that knowledge base Um, but to your point. I mean there there are places that you can go out on tech community Through different series like these like this one, of course, I've always want people to watch more of these I'm a huge fan of a lot of what the regarding 365 crowd puts together some fantastic people and daryl Daryl's awesome. So I just I just like saying it like that Yeah, but tremendous resources that are out there for the community But man, I mean, this is just a perfect time too, right? I mean not all companies are just I ball deep in some things and they have a little time Um, I mean, I'm done a ton of free recordings on how do I how do you do this and how do you do that? and I've given them a way and um, you know, I've made them available to you know, my entire team But also the interns and I have to tell you I've just been massively impressed With the interns and I and I can guarantee you I'm not the only one finding these gem of interns I think if anybody gave an intern the opportunity They could really build up some really great resources and what a great time to be doing it Yeah, I think that would be an e-book that probably be downloaded a lot is like how to ramp up your uh interns on free Office 365 microsoft 365 training resources I know put something like that together and you know people would definitely utilize this Are you saying you want to help me put something like that together since I have stuff coming out? I'm just saying that something like that needs to be put together Uh, yeah, it would be but I mean with a lot of stuff that we know we kind of take for granted of where to go Because that's another that's a common question and we've addressed that in this series a number of times Which is kind of that question of like where do you go to keep up with everything? Right. We we've answered that numerous times. There's no one place to go And so providing an outline of the various resources what kinds of resources are there To allow people to go take advantage of them. It's I think would be really helpful So what I have Suggested since I have now the two interns and Omar's been doing it for a while Dylan is my other guy the senior of northern kentucky university And dylan is someone uh, he he actually reminds me of you christian. It's kind of funny He could stand up in front of anybody and just and and just knock out a presentation and probably have only seen it once I mean like he's that kind of guy. He's not nervous about it. He can go whether we help people or not is to Can be argued but we can do the presentation Right, right So what mike and I were talking about this morning is teaming up dylan and omar about doing an Intern or getting started In this field, especially now Right, so if you know, there are people that are changing their Changing their careers right now because of who kept busy during this time and who didn't keep busy Who lost their jobs and all that kind of stuff So there's people that are looking So mike and I said that we're going to kind of have omar and dylan come together and put a presentation together about You know how to get started and how to get you know, how to really Build your knowledge base when you're Literally getting started because these two literally had to do that Yeah, right. I mean omar started as a freshman So that's going to be from a freshman's perspective to where dylan is a senior in college, right? and Just because of how the colleges are ran and how they do things they're going to have different perspective But I think that it'd be great for people that are looking to go into this field And you never my opinion is you're never too old to start something new Never too old you're with me. How aren't you? Absolutely Right So, um, we want to do that for Ottawa And then maybe do something maybe we invite them to let's talk Let's talk offline and let's uh, let's let's pull a quick call together and and talk about you know, what should be included with that Yeah, absolutely. They do have a question that's came in from uh, husam Uh, so he's experienced something. So I don't know again. I've been offline for the last Four days, so I'm not sure if there's been anything going on. This is nowadays We've faced frequented issue with with microsoft teams Resulting in the blue screen Is there something that's been going on? um All I have been told when um, I have experiences the blue screen that updates are being done Which we've have heard before when we get a blue screen or it reboots or whatever Updates are being done to the tenant wait a little bit and it'll come back up And that's essentially what I've been told and that that would be kind of my response. How do you have anything to add? No, not really. It's uh, I really haven't heard a blue screen Yeah I have with the desktop But one of the things that one of the first things that I do this is maybe kind of a trick But uh, so I will if I've experienced an issue with something that's not expected behavior One time that I had a blue screen with the uh with the desktop is I then go and check the same site over within the browser So if if you experience something that consistent between both of those things Then it could be there's just something major happening with the tenant or the service Um, and then you do the the typical things where I go to social accounts I see if anybody else is experiencing it. I got to tech community those those kinds of things But if you see it in one place and not the other and using the desktop version of that You can refresh it or wait a minute. I know that and it sounds really bad, but a reboot only because Uh, microsoft has been sending out more than the main updates every the second tuesday of every month If something big comes out they shoot it out Right, so you may get it that may install but your computer hasn't rebooted So unfortunately if it's a security thing that affects teams it will blue screen So it just depends on some of the settings you have with your desktop So if you're experiencing it in both totally it's tenant related if you're getting it one or the other It is most likely update related on your phone and or the computer itself um Most of the time it is a tenant related issue And they're doing an update Oddly enough if you call and they're like, yes We just pushed an update out to your phone or not your tenant rack Right, so can't tell you exactly when it's getting done, but we pushed it out to your rack. So between now and this time You could potentially have a problem Unfortunately, I hopefully they can get a little better with that because it is very um Uh, I mean The other thing I don't like about that is when they're doing updates to tenants I don't know if you guys have ever known but when you go out to the admin panel And uh, you know how they will say that you have service degradation with uh exchange or share point or whatever If they're actually doing an update to your tenant, they will it is not posted out there And my thought would be if they would actually post it out there that an update has been pushed Then you know, you're in that realm of getting an update and then there's no reason for you to have to put a ticket in But the problem is is they will not put something out there saying that an update has been pushed to your tenant Yeah, that's uh that goes along with uh, a request that I've had where when microsoft makes announcements, uh for new features That there's some a dashboard perspective from my tenant So I know to go get excited about new features that are now available or will be shortly on my own tenant Otherwise, you know great talking about stuff and maybe it'll show up in the next few months and like no idea When that thing actually hits and I'm on one of the first rings and yet I I think I'm on one of the Slow first rings. Well, I believe I'm on that same ring because I have one of them on the first ring too and I'm like, why does it feel like it's on the last ring because that's People that don't know what we're talking about. So you have The administrator has the ability to go into your office 365 environment uh in admin tools and uh and select for that first ring release so that you puts you at the front of You know, you've authorized those environments. There are a lot of plenty of companies that want to be on the slow ring They want to hear about things well in advance and want to take the longest time until that feature becomes available Eventually because it's a cloud-based service Everyone will get that thing But it's great to be able to select whether you're at the front or the back of those updates Well, and if you're at the front of it say it's uh something like uh in theory Let's just clear up because I should be at the front. I feel like I'm at the back Yeah, I'm with you in theory. What is essentially they're telling you so like when they release groups into share point um, if you remember they really released Groups into share point and they turned it on for everybody So that meant as people went into outlook and everything they could start creating groups which meant they were creating site collections On the back end and nobody knew it They didn't know what they were doing and they were just taking up all these resources, right? At a client that literally only had six sites and that all of a sudden their tenant wouldn't work and they said I literally had to back door into their admin panel and they had 752 sites because people were creating all these group sites, but didn't know what the hell they did, right? I'm one of my favorite governance slides is that is the uh, you know the the the two people on horseback With all the cattle everywhere, you know, it's just constantly that is that part of governance is, you know, the Corral and everybody After the whole groups debacle what we're supposed to be able to do now when we're selected to be first release Is to be able to identify our governance. Are we going to do it? Are we not going to do it? We're going to turn it off. We're going to turn it on Whatever we need to do before it actually goes production But yet for some reason as Christian and I have just told you it seems like that ring That's supposed to be the fastest seems to be the slowest here lately. So I think it's just because we want it so much That it's uh, Microsoft is tempering that excitement and just be slow down you You know, but when I get it in my production before I get it in my dev. I have a problem But hey, hey how so I've got one that's up your alley here It might be an easy question for you It seems like we had a variation of this a week or two ago as well David says I have an email address in addition to the domain I use for office 365 It's two different emails. I wish I could link it into office 365 So I could look in one place to see everything when I travel I can do that on my iPhone, but that's expensive when overseas So wants to be able to see like if you've got a gmail as well as your company domain Email being able to see that in office 365 to connect concerns right so yeah the Ola client, which is what I assume he would be using is got basically the same features As the desktop when it comes to that you can add a gmail account to it you can add a yahoo account to it a connected service is what they call that and It's better to put that in the desktop cloud, but if you've got to put it in the cloud you sort they can Well, you can also create a rule like we have a support email account support at focalpoint solutions.co And we have a rule that when an email comes into there that automatically redirects to other accounts So essentially whoever's on call or whatever And so even though it's taking a license on the back end They're still just going to that one email account and getting email from multiple different email accounts That And I may be a little confused that there's also a So You talking within the same domain or to an external source Same domain. Yeah, okay same domain. It should work fine Yep If you're if you're emailing an extra or automatically replying to the internet An external source somewhere that is turned off by default in exchange service for very mail loops Yeah, you got to turn enable that. Yeah Yeah To your original point though, you should be able to go in you've got your Your gmail your yahoo and your office 365 account. You can link all of those within oa You can then access anything through a browser no matter where you are in the world without using phone My other advice is if you're traveling that much where this is a pain Get a international data plan Which most of us do because That's a that's our life, right But uh, yeah All right Yeah, and uh and who saw him and to answer your question. Yeah, it's all going to be recorded So this will be posted out and I will share the the the link Um, if you watch out on buckley planet.com and the office hours series So you can't miss it on my blog and then you'll see I'll take both the morning and the evening sessions combine it upload it to youtube And then we'll go through and do time stamps for every topic that we cover in these sessions Although uh riz needs to send me the recording from this morning since I was Out on the lake. So By the way, uh, it's always it's almost like, uh, it's like a game. You're like I've smeared sunscreen all over my body Where did I miss? Where's that place? and uh No, I didn't put any in my face I don't like it run down in my eyes everything and I I'm out in the sun every day anyway And I tan really quickly but um farmer tan Um, so on my the one place where no matter how much I put on because my shorts kept rubbing it off is right on my knees Um, so that's where I'm burned from writing the cdu and with my knees just right there taking the brunt of the sun's force So I'm just gonna give you a little bit of advice. I wouldn't get on your knees the next couple days Yeah, I'll just uh, I will uh, you know be wearing full slacks next time. I'm not on the water Skin cancer hiked out of my face. I would say that, you know, it's just nothing to fool with Yeah It runs in my family as well. So I'm Had a number of um skin cancer things on his face too Yeah, I I just keep thinking of my my grandfather my maternal grandfather just such a this is the man that taught me to You know about hiking and hunting. He was born on an indian reservation in southern utah in 1918 I think um But uh, anyway, he's he's passed away now, but uh, just the toughest man I've ever known We were hiking one time. He stumbled and broke his finger dislocated and broke his hand He popped it in and we camped then for three four days because he didn't want to wreck it for the grandkids To uh, to you know, so he walked around with his hands swelling up and still Fishing and camping. Anyway, tough guy. What tribe tribe was he? But he, huh? What tribe? Oh, he wasn't it. No, he he wasn't. He just happened to be born down there Oh, so he wasn't he's not part indian at all. Uh, no, but I think they were visiting Visiting but uh, yeah, my my family were related to john mure and just a lot of outdoorsy people so I am actually one thirty third blackfoot indian And five generations my great great great great grandmother is a full indian squaw And everybody always tells me I look just like her. I go she was a redhead and they go minus the redhead You look just like her Because I can actually tan for a redhead. I can actually tan, but I have to do it the right way You know slow, but sure right kind of thing um, but uh, but um, everybody always thought I I broke two fingers in a basketball game and I taped them together and played the entire Yeah, just tough it out Whatever the illness is it's my running joke with family members that are hospitalized and I tell them to walk it off Yeah, I am showing the empathy. That's that's the degree of empathy that I show I am not one to go and sit on a bench So, you know, it better be like something where I physically can't walk or use an arm or i'm still going to play But I did grow up with all brothers. So, you know, they would call me a wimp if I didn't I've got we've got two more questions. I want to try to get through we got about eight more minutes um, this one I don't know was it was translated in in facebook. So It's not completely clear. Um, but febricio said, uh, so I have a Consultation so I don't know if it's consultant or something but a question It happens that my local files do not synchronize with my share point folder And so he asks is that about office or is it a one drive problem that his files are not syncing so, um, I we would need a little bit more information if he's Essentially starting his sync from share point to one drive and one drive to his local or how he's Yeah, so local files not synchronizing. I mean, I gotta know if that's uh, got the folders set up Right exactly, you know, so I I just experienced this last week where I noticed that Something wasn't syncing and I noticed down on the desktop applications the desktop tray That it was disconnected and it was something going on was with the service And it's kind of the turn it off and on again You know walked away from it come back look at it later and it just solved itself Yeah, it's inability to sync had there was something definitely happening with the service not anything that I did So last month around this approximate same time there was an update That was done on windows 10 that affected One drive local sync and you literally had to reboot your computer and let it go through the updates If you didn't let it go through the updates that it would not reconnect So as long as you've rebooted between that time and that time some people didn't even notice it But if you don't reboot like I don't always reboot because considering you can close your computer now and it opens back up I don't always reboot unless it you know When i'm in the middle of a meeting randomly it decides i'm going to reboot because you haven't done so which has happened um But there was Last month around this time because when I started going out and trying to Get some things out of my email that I was getting to get it to my team While I was in the hospital and whatnot. I had a similar problem But once I got the download rebooted then everything worked just fine Yeah, but you got to pay attention to the errors that you're getting on your one drive That's on your local it actually pretty much tells you what to do Anything to add to that Hal Nope Get out and push when needed. Yeah Turn it off and on again Walk it off um Hey christian, do you notice that we have like very similar like desktop or Like I think we've talked about that. Yeah the the heavy dark furniture the that uh Yeah, so yeah, I was like and I see your Chewbacca and I've got my yoda and And I just got this guy and so I get something else. Oh, and this is actually something else that was found So I have ought to bring it in. Oh you got r2 Oh You know, I love star wars. Don't you have Yeah And so this is one of the favorites of my kids had had this for years But it was actually in my office. So I was a huge fan of where the wild things are And so I actually in my garage. I painted for my boys When they were little I'm sorry your thing keeps moving. We can't see him Oh, because I set him down Well, we couldn't see there we go. Okay, there we go Oh, he's cute So but uh, you know, so I actually have a painting that's in my garage Um that was in my boys when all three of them were little so I think Preston was my oldest son was Six and I think so I had then four and two and the three of them were in Where our house in california were in the same room together and I painted this giant the scene from where the wild things are where The the the main character max was sad sitting at his tent with all the creatures falling asleep around it So I wanted kind of a sleepy theme in there and and so I did the huge painting of that And uh in college my roommate and I did the triumphant march where max is up on the shoulders of one We recreated that scene on an eight foot long piece of foam core It was like four by eight and we did it in pens in markers And it took a long time to do but it was fantastic and I don't know where that thing is now But yeah, so big big fan of that Um, let's see one other question and then one last thing to talk about Um, but this one so you've all asked um Looking for good advice. So microsoft form with several additional additional applications Um questionnaires wants to create an entry after identification with a personal number ability to update some data for entries Um sharing advertising by organizational affiliation um Yeah, so he's looking to do forms um And add on to questionnaires, um You know, this is one that we probably need to dig in a little bit more and ask some other supporting questions and do to be able to Um advise him on that I said generically I mean, they're I don't know if you guys use anything else for questionnaires and surveys Beyond the forms I use microsoft forms connect them into share point list with microsoft flow and Connect them for a lot of things so that way I can do additional Things and then it depending on the type of data that's being collected I can then turn it I can Turn the form into power apps if need be but connected into power bi as well So it really depends on what kind of information they're trying to Collect really, you know what I mean? Yeah, there's a lot that you can do with that. I mean you can you can use the the the the forms um I just as you've explained I mean to be able to go back in and and have them a request or assign a personal identification number So they either either input that is part of that, you know that process or Assign a number to them generate something and assign them that they can kind of Track the completion of those are both things that they can do So you think about document IDs, right? So if you're doing a microsoft forms and you connect you get into a share point list and you enable Document IDs any item that you create is automatically going to be You can create a document id for by Turning on that feature so you can say like So like I could create my document IDs as fps 0001 and the next one be 0002 fps 003 etc You can identify how you want that to be And you can do that by connecting it into a share point list But it really it takes they need to identify all the types of fields that they want to collect To find out what is going to be the best case scenario. Do we just need a microsoft form and connect it to a list? Do you need it into a dashboard or not? And depending on the type of information that it's collecting Do we need to turn it into a power apps? Probably not based off of what i'm hearing But we would need to know more detail about what they want to collect Yeah, I'll have to check to see if there's any follow-up questions any other information on this because some of the other parts of the question about Sharing advertising by organizational affiliation Yeah, I'm not sure what that means, but uh to me I'm seeing a view there Right if it's a marketing type of a thing or an it type of thing You're you're more or less setting up a metadata to that item list of that type of thing and then creating the different views And then who who sees those type of things But we would need a whole lot more information to really provide a A hard Yeah, the last thing I wanted to add in here. So it was a question that came in A few hours ago since after this morning session, then we'll wind up on this one so a shorter version answer to this but uh, so uh Javidly javelin javidly line Sorry, I just butchered her name But um, is there an easiest and accurate way on computing the duration for a mailbox migration hybrid Assuming the following details and so she's got a bunch of the the mattress total mailbox size 1.33 terabytes estimate a mailbox number a thousand Estimated mailbox per user then has kind of the different sizes and the network bandwidth. Is there a way of estimating The the duration for a migration With with these data points. So there are but there's some things that you would have to do So one, um, if they're moving to office 365, I can explain to her how she needs to Report a support ticket to have throttling increased. They will increase it for 90 days Up to somebody made that same suggestion of the feedback. So yeah, they will give up to 90 days But depending on the rest of the information I would I would have to ask a few more questions and I could probably give her a pretty good indication of how long it's going to take her So if you want to supply her my email information, it's up in the the comments out on the office 365 community It's right now. It's at the top of the page. So Um, definitely Do you mind sending it? I'm sorry. I just don't write too fast because my left hand's the one that works and not the right one Yeah, yeah, just if you go just uh facebook.com slash groups slash office 365 community Written out and uh, it should be at the top of the the page there. It's the most recent Question asked on the page I'll go out there. I'll go out there and provide her some information and there's a little bit more information that is needed But if we can do some of those things then we'll be able to give her But that's a critical point um that there are certainly there's tooling There's things that you go and look in and based on the size estimates and your your bandwidth on your end but all of that And and the other the other questions around the fact that she's saying and we're hybrid environment So there's other factors that are because of you know, what degree of hybrid? What does that actually look like which can impact that? Well, what does she mean by that too, right? but then the It's a critical thing that you can look at all this data points But if you don't go in and open up that support ticket that is critical because the throttling will happen if microsoft if you're using Most people are probably not aware of this if you're using a third party migration tool to do a migration of sharepoint exchange data Almost all of those solutions Are they they have an indicator that microsoft is aware that? Hey, we're using this tool and they'll adjust the throttling because of that if you're not using one of those tools Yeah, well Those are the conversations. I I know there's a I'm going to tell you right now. I know three of them. You literally have to put in the ticket or you're not going to get it Right, which is what I said that you still need to go do that. You still need to go Regardless, you need to And I give them the exact The exact terminology the exact comment that they need can copy and paste and open up a ticket And when when and I can even tell them when they call they're going to ask you this this and this This is how you answer it and they're going to say we're going to give it to you for 90 days. You're going to say you rock And then you're going to write down when is your 30 days up that way if something happens to come up That you guys are aware and you can hit it before it hits that 90 days if there's a problem I'll say if they don't tell you that you rock after that then you're not getting your money's worth So yeah, I would I'd expect that behavior now. So we'll say we're we're out of time. Thanks so much Stacy and Hal Uh and anybody that watched on the stream, thanks for joining in again We're here every every Monday at 8 a.m. And 6 p.m. Pacific So feel free to join Of course, you can follow us. 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We're active in all those places and uh, let us know if you've got Questions a slightly nuanced variation of anything that we've talked about This evening and we're we'll be happy to respond so And um christian, you got me for the next eight nine weeks and then i might have two week Break from the surgery and then you'll have me back All right Excellent So i'll look up the team stuff and i'll apply to the facebook thing and i'll answer those but if anything else comes up Just uh, don't hesitate to send out a message and um christian me or how i'll help you out All right He's a little bit out of barking, right? Of course. He's like All right, thanks guys. Nice seeing you. Thanks. Bye. Take care. You too. Good luck on the surgery