 Okay, so really I'm talking from a more of a perspective now of an observer and the value of cameras in or two observers while they at sea. So, I think, as I've said here the data requirements for fisheries observer programs are quite complex and difficulties are often associated with overloaded demands or accurate data and near real time reporting, which adds strain to the observers, especially in some of their more delicate tasks that they require to do. And the result is that the principal objective of most at sea observer programs are taking a backseat also as observers are required to monitor and report more and more on some compliance issues with respect to various conservation and management measures or So in this respect and as we've seen now in some of the presentations up to now automatic electronic monitoring and enhanced electronic sampling has the potential to save observers time and remove them from situations that are operationally unsafe and scenarios where they are pulled on to exceed their independent sampling mandate. I was going to see if this thing is going to change. So, essentially, observers are cameras are not, are not new in observers. And they've been used for many years for most programs for taking pictures of various species and under situations. And, you know, if I look at the camera observer program. So, for example, dropping tag returns has been a requirement for a long time now. And that, especially to verify against reported tag return numbers and this has proved itself over and over again, up to now. So I started looking at the more modern cameras and the and the rapid advance in new technology, which involves both around imagery and machine learning and artificial intelligence it makes it possible. Now for cameras to take over large chunks of monotonous tops. These are things like line rolling, which can be rewatched at a high speed and in more safety and comfort. And I'll come back to some of the safety aspects, but in short camera time can save on human time that can then be reinvested in tasks with cameras or less efficient. So if we look a little bit now at electronic sampling versus electronic monitoring. And just to give you an example here of what an observer is expected to spend many hours of his day, I could see, if we look at line hauling at the line hauling example machine learning can pick up a flag events and draw attention to these. I'm showing the viewers sections of the line where fish come up observer can then validate species ID confirm events that are flagged, and the view also has the power to stop rewind fast forward and zoom in save clips for second opinions. And what we've also seen now is we can get to the point where species recognition can be such that an entire line hall can be monitored electronically recording all the species coming up. So cameras via remote sensing can also be connected to vessels hydraulics linked to navigation equipment such as GPS location and record mechanical operations time position together with video imaging. So what is this route that we envisage cameras and electronic monitoring to go forward as an age to observe us. presumably we can get to the point where electronic monitoring could supplant a significant percentage of the observer's time time that can also then be reinvested reinvested in more specific biological sampling. To follow on on this electronic sampling also provides observer with assistance, for example, through an electronic measuring board or scale to automatically record fish length and weight. This saves time on data transcription and reduces human error and supports support that essentially enhances the overall data collection and the quality of data that is collected. Whereas electronic monitoring and remote sensing can independently provide images and information in settings that have more a compliance factor and safety issue. For example, for most RFMOS require, most RFMOS where long line fishing takes place. They require the vessels to fly one or two birds carrying devices, the Tori Alliance, especially in the higher latitudes. And these lines are really only effective if deployed in terms of the specifications, correct length, attachment height, tote object. Setting also often takes place at night and observers are not always or cannot always be present throughout the set to verify that Tori Alliance is deployed correctly and working effectively. It is also often a very dangerous situation in adverse conditions of sea and ice. And I'm going to be honest here, there are situations where observers have actually been in life-threatening situations, monitoring setting operations, which to a large extent is a compliance issue. In essence, a simple Tori line tension device which switches on automatically once the line is deployed records date time tension verifies the line is automatic is effective. It's automatically once once the line is deployed so basically, as soon as the line is deployed all these parameters are recorded. And from a set of known parameters, it will also record if the line is correctly deployed, correct length is out and tote device and so on and so forth. This saves observer time and also is huge a safety factor for the observer. So if we look now at electronic monitoring more in a compliance aspect. A scientific observer should not be a compliance office and I think this is always an issue that we are faced when placing observers on board. I ever they have increasingly come tools for compliance in fishies management management, she's managers need to acknowledge that observers currently play a huge role in contracts. They cannot site site step it and all of the associated risks that he creates for the options. He and can to a large extent resolve the understated reality that observers to have this compliance role as I've just mentioned monitoring setting operations result of compliance issues is that the independence of observers can be compromised. There will always be an opportunity to look away. Often it is nothing to do with the integrity of the building, or even the fishing operation, and more to do with the relationships on board, maintaining a safe and congenial living situation for observers when they are at sea sometimes on a small vessel up to six months. So essentially, the electronic monitoring can increase monitoring from zero level up to 100% or 200% in cases where human and electronic monitoring work together. It can also have a significant knowledge on smaller vessels, which are generally less safe and suitable for accommodating observers, taking away. In some cases, they need to remove a crew to crew member to accommodate the observe. And if I give an example of a fishery in South Africa to Nepal fishery where crew working pairs to try and take off one crew to accommodate. And this ever seriously impacts the operation of the vessel. And the result is that these vessels seldom if ever take observers, and there is to date little or no recorded at sea monitoring in this in this fishery. Another case study of a fishery here in South Africa, which also is extremely reluctant to take observers and that's our small scale, small, electric person fishery. And this is a fishy that is ideal, ideally situated for electronic monitoring by putting remote sensing on to the equipment hydraulics like the triplex the net stacker. And the fish pump together with cameras, it would be able to provide an indication of the catch size from the strain profile on the equipment while rolling, and then the time to actually come out the net. And just to look at this in reality, we can see that by by pulling out an AI system on to all of these equipment and then on to the pump and monitoring the volume of fish that are pumped out. The parameters used in conjunction could provide information on catch composition and even size competition. The flag would be raised if there was a deviation from the expected parameters that mark indicate fish were discarded for any reason. And this is a major compliance factor in this fishery. Okay, so that's pretty much it. I was actually hoping that this would more the scene for discussion and questions. And yeah, thanks a lot for those of you have listened so far.