 We're also very lucky to have Jane Hubbard here with us, Director of Operations at the Legacy of Hope Foundation. We're really honored to be partnering with them on this campaign. They have years of experience working in the school system and more broadly educating Canadians on the legacy of the residential schools. Their Hundred Years of Lost kit is used broadly across the country in schools and has been taken up by the territories as their core, they've adapted it slightly, but they use it as the way to educate grade 10 students on the residential school that's a mandatory piece of their education system now. So we have, we've really benefited from all the experience of the Legacy of Hope Foundation when it comes to putting this campaign together and we're so glad to be working with them on it. Jane's going to tell us more about all of that work in the area of education and how we're working together moving forward on the next steps as far as making sure that all Canadians are learning about residential schools, treaties and those important contributions both historically and today. I thought I'd put together a presentation today just to really introduce the Legacy of Hope Foundation to people who don't know who we are and what we do. Jennifer, it was heartening in your introduction when you talked about asking that question, asking people what they know about the issue of residential schools. That's how I always begin any of the talks that I do when I go into schools or go into organizations and places of work to discuss this issue and I'm always surprised when a few hands go up and it's not just a generational thing because even when I go into schools we get that same reaction that a lot of people haven't been learning about this issue at all. So I'm going to go ahead and share this, share the screen and hopefully technology will be kind to us today and I can start my little PowerPoint point. So who we are. So the Legacy of Hope Foundation is a national Aboriginal charitable organization whose purposes are to educate, raise awareness and understanding of the legacy of residential schools, including the effects, the intergenerational impacts on First Nations, Inuit and Métis people and to support the ongoing healing process of residential school survivors. It's our hope that by fulfilling this mandate that it will lead to reconciliation amongst generations of Indigenous peoples and also between Indigenous and non-Indigenous peoples in Canada. So a little bit of history. So Jennifer had touched on the RCAP. We go back a long ways. We've been around for 15 years now. On March 31st, as you can see, the Aboriginal Healing Foundation came out of the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples. So the AHF was created, it was given a 10-year mandate to disperse a fund of $350 million beginning in 1999 and it was supposed to have ended in 2009. The Aboriginal Healing Foundation had provided funding to support community-based initiatives to address the intergenerational legacy of physical and sexual abusing in Canada's Indian residential school system. One of the major successes of the Aboriginal Healing Foundation was the fact that it encouraged and supported community-based initiatives and there was a large amount of success amongst all of these initiatives because people really had ownership and they really were community-based. In 2007, there was an additional disbursement of $125 million from the federal government which extended the life of the foundation to September 2014. All along, of course, the AHF knew that it would not be able to go on in perpetuity so it set up in 2000, it established the Legacy of Hope Foundation. The Legacy of Hope Foundation, as I had mentioned, its mandate is to raise awareness and educate people about the issue of residential schools. I'm probably preaching to choir a little bit here but the residential school system and why it matters, we know that over 150,000 First Nation Inuit and Métis children were, some as young as four years old, were forced to attend residential schools. We know also that the residential schools were part of a larger government and church plan to assimilate these kids into the dominant culture. So we know also that the children suffered abuses of mind, body, emotions and spirit that have had a deep and lasting impact on the survivors and their families and in the communities themselves. So some of the questions that we've asked and how we've sort of, and these questions have really sort of driven our work. So why is this matter important to non-averaginal Canadians and why should it matter to someone who's never attended residential school? Well it matters because it continues to affect First Nations Inuit and Métis families who are people from vibrant cultures who make vital contributions to Canadian society. It matters also because it happened here in our country, Canada, which is a land considered to be a world leader in democracy. It matters because the residential school system has caused social ills, such as poverty, homelessness, substance abuse and lateral violence in indigenous communities. It matters because indigenous communities continue to suffer levels of poverty, illness and illiteracy comparable to those in developing nations. So it matters also because we share this land and we may not be responsible for what happened in the past, but we all benefit from what First Nations Inuit and Métis people have had to relinquish. We are however responsible for our actions going forward. So at the Legacy of Folk Foundation we're very much committed to a candid exploration of Canada's real history and we believe that education has a huge part to play in the healing movement and that by creating awareness and encouraging public engagement as we are doing as being a part of the Windsor Change Campaign, we believe that we can really foster and generate understanding and reconciliation and generate a little bit of pressure as well on governments to adopt this issue into the curriculum. So just a little bit about some finer detail as to what we actually do. So some people may be familiar with this particular exhibition. This exhibition is the 100 Years of Lost, the Residential School System in Canada exhibition that has toured around and appeared at all of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's national events across Canada. It was developed in 2010-2011 in conjunction with our 100 Years of Lost curriculum. So the idea, what we did is we would go into communities before the Truth and Reconciliation Commission held its national events and we would talk to teachers and in service to teachers with the curriculum before the event actually happened so that they could talk and teach their students about the issue of Residential School so that when the students came on Education Day to visit the exhibition they would have a knowledge of the subject matter and a greater respect for what they were actually seeing. And it goes into some detail that you can see there is, this particular exhibition is a bilingual English-French mobile exhibition. We say it's mobile, it's a tough one to put up and we are actually looking to develop a smaller scale version of all of our exhibitions so that they will be very, very mobile, truly mobile exhibitions. It consists of eight thematic pods, four in each language and there's a wavy wall in the middle that you might be able to see that has a timeline. So the second part of the exhibition is the curriculum kit itself and it's intended to be used as an in-class resource but we found that there were many organizations that wanted to use it as well, you know, non-educators. We had quite a bit of uptake from Corrections Canada as well who wanted to use it with their staff and also amongst their inmates as well. So the educate has the curriculum kit and it also has five banners which when put together form a timeline which is essentially the same timeline in a different format that appears in the exhibition itself. We've also made a smaller kit, we call it the teacher bundle, which has a paper accordion fold timeline. We found that these other, the education kits themselves were rather unwieldy and expensive to ship and to manufacture. So the teacher's guide contains six lesson plans, an introduction to Canada's residential school system through the lens of the federal apology. So we start by playing Prime Minister Harper or former Prime Minister Harper, his apology in the House of Commons and there's some discussion afterwards. So what we do is when we go in and in-service teachers, we take them through that first lesson plan in the book as an introduction to the topic itself. We also look at what happened to create the residential school system. That takes some historical texts and puts the whole system in context, historical context. Identity, identity that existed before and then what was taken away in the schools. Different residential schools, the impacts and the lasting impacts that we're continuing to see today. And then we wanted to end the curriculum piece on a more hopeful note. So making healing and reconciliation happen. Really what we see the 100 years of loss curriculum as is a starting point. We know that this was developed in 2012 and a lot of things have happened since then. One of the things that's happened is that we've gone ahead and done, last year we did an education scan. Some of you may be familiar with that, just to sort of a check up to see what individual provinces and territories were doing. There was quite a disparity as to what was happening across Canada. We number one bullet point there in the Northwest Territories, something that was also touched upon by Katie, that they took the 100 years of loss curriculum and adapted it into a northern version and it is now mandated curriculum for all grade 10 students. They must take that in order to graduate from high school. Which is really, we think of that as being our biggest victory so far. The other piece of that is that every teacher in Nunavut and Northwest Territories had been in service in that curriculum regardless of whether or not they were actually teaching that. All teachers have that knowledge now, which we think is very important also. TRC education days, well those are over but they were very effective for us in bringing the curriculum to teachers across Canada. We have actually distributed 8,689 educators and teachers bundles in both languages and that figure was as of yesterday. So, we have other plans as well to potentially produce it in some sort of digital format. That remains to be seen of course. 100 years of loss is our core piece of curriculum, but as we are participating of course in the Winds of Change campaign, we are looking to have the call to action 62 implemented across Canada with early years culturally infused curriculum. So K to 7 will be the piece that is missing. The 100 loss curriculum is really more targeted to older students from 7 to 12, but of course it is also being used in post-secondary. We worked with Kairos on the Covenant Chain Project for many years now and one of the reasons why I think we were interested in becoming involved with Winds of Change is because we have seen the energy and the enthusiasm and the effectiveness of Kairos and what it can do. I think there is an astonishing energy and a lot of power in an organization such as Kairos. That when we are distributing curriculum, the uptake is usually from the bottom up. It is usually from individual teachers. That is how we have distributed most of our kits. So, we are well aware that working with a grassroots organization makes a lot of sense and that is one of the reasons that we are enthusiastic and wanting to join up with Kairos. I was speaking with Katie as well before we went live and one of the things that I had spoken to her about is that I really, in this digital age, there are always things that we can do online which is very exciting but at the same time I think that the power of petition is still very much something that people, when they actually sign their signature they feel as though they have done something and I think it is a really, it allows people to make a statement by just signing their signature. I think that is a very powerful act in and of itself too. I just wanted to close and quote Margaret Mead and she says that never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can make a difference. Indeed, that is really the only way that change happens and I think that is another example of what is going on there. That is really all I have to say and I am just going to end with my final thank you. Thanks very much, Jane. It is nice that a lot of the conversations with Legacy of Hope have been between staff and so to be able to broaden that a lot to reach many of the other important people in Kairos, board members and other partners who are on the call today so I am really grateful that you are able to fill us in and so that we all have a sense of that strong foundation that we are building on the work of Kairos but importantly the work of Legacy of Hope all of that work that you have done in the education system and those inroads that you have made in the territory in Nunavut and Northwest Territories is very impressive. We do have an opportunity for a few questions if anyone had questions for Jane or Jennifer. After this, Shannon and I are going to go into a little bit more detail about the specific ways you can engage in the pain so you can say there will be a chance to ask questions about that as well but just as a right now as an immediate response to what you have just heard, if you did have any questions regarding that. Can you hear me? May I? Yes. Okay. Okay. Good. Thank you, Jane. I've had the pleasure and privilege of viewing the 100 Years of Laws exhibit at all of the TRC national events and so I know how powerful an educational display that that was. So thank you for that and I'm really glad to know that you're partnering on the Winds of Change campaign. I did not know that you were also involved with the Covenant chain so I'm in contact with Ottawa Anglicans who are very much involved in that so all of this is good for me to hear. I also wanted to mention that the three, I don't know if there were four volumes but there were three volumes that the Healing Foundation produced and I just wanted to lift those up and say how remarkable those volumes were in terms of being educational resources, talking about the legacy of residential schools but then also I think volume three was about it involved a lot of artists using poetry and art and other things to express the impact of residential schools and just so you know because we're together today we distributed those volumes to the Council of General Synod members who are our governing body members and they change every three years and so we've made sure that those council members have always had a copy of those volumes and so just to say the Anglican Church of Canada really does deeply appreciate the work of the Healing Foundation and I wanted to mention one more thing if I could, the Anglican Healing Fund which has been around since 1991 which also supports culture and language recovery, a lot of that work and increasingly that will be the larger focus in the years to come. What we've tried to do over the years but it's been a little bit hit and miss but is to leverage the funding that you've provided over those years when you have that funding to communities and toward community groups that are healing from the residential schools legacy and we've tried to kind of leverage our Healing Fund money with that as well so lots of, anyway you're a valuable partner and I just wanted to say thank you. Well thank you and I just wanted to say as well that we do have a special relationship with the Anglican Church but we know Esther Wesley is a good friend of the foundation, both foundations and we're currently actually working right now on a project thanks to the Healing Fund we're putting together workshops and a facilitator's guide for those workshops to accompany our exhibition called We Were Far Away which explores the unique Inuit experience of residential schools. So this is another one of those circular relationships that goes back a very long time too. Thank you Henrietta. There's a question here in the chat window. It doesn't have her mic working but she was curious about the breakdown of the 8,000 edu kits, like how many went to BC? Oh I don't have, I'd have to pull up my spreadsheets and have a look at those. I don't know offhand but I could definitely, I could tell her. I'll find out and let Janet know. I also wanted to highlight that you have something that focuses on the Métis experience of residential schools that's at the Human Rights Museum. I think it's groundbreaking because there isn't much in Canada on that topic. It actually did, it appeared, it had its launch on November the 16th at the Canadian Museum of Human Rights. It was only there for a couple of days and then it went on to Red River College and will be there until, oh it's already gone. It was there until December the 6th. And we called it Forgotten because really the Métis experience is very different from that of First Nations and also again from Inuit. Their experiences are all different and very unique. It really was a groundbreaking exhibition. And it was actually very, there were some politics involved. There were some difficulties some of the Métis leaders had had with the Canadian Museum of Human Rights and the fact that we were able to actually get it into the museum, there was a moment of great reconciliation. Let's just put it that way. So it was a victory on many levels actually having the exhibition there. We're actually looking to tour that exhibition across Canada as well. And with also there are workshops that we've developed and there's also a facilitator's guide to accompanying them as well that's available for people. Great. Thanks. Any other questions? Thanks. We wanted to give you a bit of an overview. This is the first of several meetings like this. We plan to do this monthly and in the original invitation Katie outlined the dates for those upcoming updates. Today we'll focus on petitions but I wanted to give you a little bit of an overview of the rest of the actions that we are planning for this campaign. So if you were at a workshop, a campaign workshop in the last couple of months, you will have heard that the three components that we first planned were paper petitions to all of the provincial and territorial governments, meetings with MLAs and MPPs across the country, and a mass blanket exercise. Those three were mentioned in the original workshops and information. So just to, Katie is going to actually pull up our website and share that on the screen so that you can see where you can get these various resources. And it'll just be a little easier to navigate if you've seen it once. So in terms of the petitions, just to clarify again that we knew that if we wanted to submit them in the houses of legislature, they would need to be paper petitions. And so if you go to kairoscanada.org slash winds of change, you'll see right now a whole lot more words on the address line. But if you go just to kairoscanada.org slash winds of change, it will bring you to this page. And then if you look at the actions a little farther down along the side, you'll see the overview, which is the page we're on now, the background, and a link directly to the calls to action that we're responding to, and then the campaign actions. And the first one is sign and circulate the petition. If you go there, you will find a separate link for each of the provinces and territories that we have up. 11 of them are up now, and we hope to have 13 soon. So Katie, I'll just get you to pick a province to show what they look like. And so those of you that have been with us from the start know that we had, we had housed these with our resources originally so that the download was a bit more complicated. But this is a direct link and petition is on the first page, a reminder that they need to be single-sided when they're submitted. So here you have it. And we hope that you will be passing these links along to your constituency as often and in as many places as you can. And so, you know, we in the office are calling, have sometimes called these update meeting of champions. We hope that you will be the champions of this campaign and will be spreading it far and wide. So that's the petition. I think it's pretty straightforward. And those of you that have worked with petitions in the past will know that the way to do it is just to take them with you everywhere you go. And every family gathering, every meeting, every public event that you can to pass them around, get people to sign, but get people also to take blank copies on to the places that they go. And then the second aspect of this is that to complete the petitions, we're asking for everyone to have them mailed into us by March 15, but don't wait for March 15. We would love to see them now. They have begun to trickle in and we have, you know, assigned a spot, a place to file them away and hold them until March. And we would like to see the momentum build over the month. And so definitely if you have them or if you're giving instructions to people, we'll get people to send them as soon as possible. That way they don't get forgotten and we get to see the momentum. So then in the spring, we hope that people across the country will be meeting with their MLAs or MPPs. And we will talk more about this in the February update, but just to let you know that we hope they will happen everywhere regardless of the party or how close that representative is to the issues of education. We hope that all of our legislators will be learning about the importance of Call to Action 62.1 and just the importance of this education and curriculum change so that they can support it in their own constituencies and with their own ministries of education. We are in the process of developing curriculum for a webinar that will happen early in the new year that will be specifically about those meetings. And that will be a public invitation then that we will advertise to our whole network for them to come and learn and share wisdom about how to do those meetings in the most productive way and how to then share the findings of those meetings. So I'm going to pass it back to Petey to talk a little bit about the mass blanket exercises. Yeah, as Shannon mentioned, there will be a different focus for each of these monthly updates. So we will have one that talks a lot more about the mass blanket exercise. For now we do have it here on the website but you'll see the information there is quite minimal. But there are people in our network such as Janet Gray who's on the call today on the online with us who have started organizing in Toronto. I know they've started organizing. So this really was inspired by an Indigenous youth organization called Assembly of Seven Generations. Some of those youth got just blanket exercise facilitators with Kairos. Once they experienced it and had facilitated it a number of times, they felt very strongly that it should be done on Parliament Hill with large numbers of people. So they worked with us to organize that. They actually had planned to do it in the fall of 2014. And then there was the shooting on Parliament Hill and they closed down the hill for a while to events. So it was postponed. Then we picked on an important moment with the TRC having their closing event in Ottawa and releasing their calls to action that we would do it then. And many of you I think were there and experienced how powerful that was. And I think it was a nice expression of our Indigenous rights work and of our work toward reconciliation with the shared leadership between Kairos and an Indigenous youth organization. So they would like to work with us as well. We'd like to hold mass blanket exercises on the lawns of provincial legislatures. On the one-year anniversary of the close of the TRC, the release of their findings and to coincide with presenting the petitions to the legislatures, although that will probably happen just before, but right around the same time to be a high point in the campaign and to really make visible the types of education initiatives that we'd like to see in the schools. So there will be more information forthcoming on that. And we will be providing these kind of online spaces to do that planning and so that we can coordinate across the country and really have a maximum impact. So I think that that's all I'll say about the mass blanket exercises for now. But in the meantime for those that are, I think everyone on here is very familiar with the blanket exercise, but we do have this online resource center, kairosblanketexercise.org. So there's lots of information on there for facilitators and there's a link here. So some of that information can help people to prepare if you're interested in being part of the organizing group, if you happen to be living in a provincial capital. Yeah, explore our mini-site some more on the campaign. You'll see that there's a report card on there and all sorts of other resources. But the other action piece that I just wanted to invite, which there will be more information on future updates, is we're working on a statement that would be an opportunity for organizations to show their support for the campaign. So we have the petitions and the online action for individuals, but we'd like to have a statement online and then organizations, churches, school boards, all kinds of groups can put their name to the statement and we can really express the kind of collective support that exists for this work. So that will be ready soon and we can start circulating that to get signatures, to get organizational endorsements. To what degree are the regional networks engaged in this campaign, do you know? So we have at least one regional representative with us today. I believe there are two regional reps with us today. Janet Gray from BC UConn and Karen Crowe who has come in just after we started. She's living in Winnipeg. The regional reps were all at the movement building circle where we did outline, we did a campaign workshop and so they have all been well briefed and the people, I've had a chance to have individual conversations with a number of them and they are working at sending it out to them. In addition to those people to think back a little bit earlier, this workshop happened at Great Lakes St. Lawrence. It happened in the Prairies North and since there wasn't a regional meeting in the Atlantic, we had a series of three workshops in various cities in Nova Scotia in particular, so there has had a chance to see it. So we haven't covered every province but we have been across the country in many places. Okay, I mentioned at the beginning that we had quite a few actions so we've talked about four out of six that we want to talk about today and so just to complete that list, the fifth is an online action. When we introduced paper petitions, everyone asked us will there also be an online opportunity to sign and the answer is yes. So we don't again have all of the details worked out for that at this point but there will be a chance for individuals to sign online where the statement that Katie was talking about later would be a chance for organizations to put their organizational name behind something that will be also a way for individuals to sign in the electronic form. Katie, I'm going to ask if you can also pull up the website again and share that with Fogan and go to the host a workshop page. And I just thought this is new on the website and I would just share it with you. It's actually a link that will be going out in the Kairos Times today. And so if you can scroll down three. So we've listed here five options for public events that can support this campaign. And so you can, you know, in your own newsletters or conversations with people, you can highlight as much as you have space for or highlight different ones at different points. So the first one would be an education for reconciliation workshop, which we have laid out entirely in our action toolkit and you can find that for free online. Another idea is a public event with high profile guests who will publicly sign the petition. In the way that you might make a check when you're doing a check presentation, you can just make a massive petition and invite the media and make that, you know, a moment for the cameras as well as an opportunity to, you know, have some short speeches or some appropriate entertainment. There are some other options that where this can be an opportunity to just have an educational event like a blanket exercise or a reflecting together workshop, which is kind of a broader perspective. It includes the Bible study and a look at the United Nations declaration on the rights of Indigenous peoples. Those kind of events can be campaign events when you just conclude with a little bit of information about the campaign and have the petitions available for people to take and for people to sign. Likewise, film screenings or book studies. So I just wanted to let you know that that list has gone up and it's something you can link to in your newsletters or encourage people to try out. And of course we'd like to hear about things, if events are planned and we will post them on our calendar. So that's our list of campaign activities. And so with that, I want to turn back to an opportunity for questions, comments, suggestions. I'm wondering how full, how many names you need on petition before it goes in? Is there a minimum? Okay, and the other thing I want just to say so you're aware is that Manitoba has introduced their legislation for first reading. And we're also in an election cycle for April. And so just if people are working on the Manitoba aspect of it, there's a couple layers of complication. One of it is there'll be public hearings around the legislation if it moves forward. And the other thing is that we could be smack dab in the middle of an election campaign right around the time we're trying to finalize those signatures. Paul, can you tell us briefly what the legislation includes? I haven't read it yet. I just learned it on Sunday when I was talking about it. And it's also because it's election time, it's unclear if the opposition is going to resist letting stuff go through so that the government can claim victories on what they've done. The legislature is not functioning at its best at the moment. But it was addressing the policy of mandatory education in schools. Okay. So Cheryl McNamara is sitting here in the room with me and reminded me that an election coming up as there is in Manitoba and in Saskatchewan in the spring is a good opportunity for having all candidates meeting and then posing these kinds of questions to the all candidates and getting them into the discussion. I was in a meeting this week of the Ecumenical Working Group on Residential Schools and an interesting point was raised. We were talking about the different recommendations and one of the members of the group who works in communities, Indigenous communities, had just returned from the Yukon. And she was talking about the curriculum in Yukon and saying, well, we all down south think this is good. In her experience, things were so isolated in Yukon that this ended up, kids coming home from school and wanting to talk about this with parents and grandparents opened up a whole new layer of trauma. And I'm not saying that to say we shouldn't do the campaign because I was involved in forming the campaign and think we should do it. But just that we should be aware of that, that that's a reality in some situations and it was something that I hadn't thought of and it was a valuable learning. Thanks for sharing, Sarah. They're helpful things for us to keep in mind. Perhaps I'll repeat some of it because Sarah's typing, she wasn't sure that people heard it. She had heard from another participant at a meeting that in the Yukon there were, when students learned about residential schools in school, they went home to their parents and grandparents and wanted to discuss it and opened a whole new level of trauma. So that we hope that that is something that will be built into the curriculum that there's an awareness among teachers and educators. Can I just speak to that quickly? I know that for the curriculum that was developed with the Northern curriculum that we developed with Northwest Territories and with Nunavut, it was really important that in the front's piece of the curriculum that there be included instructions to teachers and to educators who would be using the kit as to how to address this topic. Not in a gentle way because there are truths that have to be told but in a respectful way and in a way that wouldn't re-traumatize. And accompanying the kits before any teachers embarked on teaching it to their students, there was a letter sent home to the parents so that everyone was aware what was going to be taught in the schools before it actually was, before it was taught and it actually opened up some community discussions as well. So yes, we understand that it's a difficult topic. There's no doubt about it. And when we're out in community, when we're in classrooms teaching, it can trigger people, even if people residential school survivors nor intergenerational survivors themselves. A lot of people find it, make some feel sad or guilty. There really is a responsibility for whoever does teach curriculum and develop the curriculum that it be done mindfully and bearing that in mind. So I just want to say that if we have anything to do with the curriculum, and I think that people are well aware hopefully going forward that there is that danger of re-traumatizing. And I think there are ways to do it that it won't occur. So it's not just teachers and students that are involved obviously, as you mentioned, it's whole families and whole communities. And so we have to prepare for that in the curriculum itself. Thanks, Jane. Yep. Hi there. This is Paul. And can I just say that the call from the TRC and the campaign are also about teaching about treaties and teaching about positive contributions from indigenous peoples. And so it's really good to be aware of the trauma side of things. But this is also about honoring identity and contribution and history in a positive light. And that's what's in the petition. I just make a comment just coming to my mind about, given that we have a few board members on the call, I'm wondering about some of our, while our board and being involved in some kind of visible signing process, and maybe in that screen would do it in a local congregation or in a gathering of Anglicans. I think that would be the place to take a little bit of video or some good photographs. And then you could put them on your website and we'd put them on ours and highlight what we're doing together. Yeah, thanks. My mind is also going about all the number of places that sometimes cross over each other where we are, the multiple places in which we find ourselves. I like the idea of the board members and the church leaders. I was also thinking that in last week at the Canadian Interfaith Conversation, I facilitated a two hour session on the TRC called Action 48. And I can imagine that I'm trying to think we have a meeting early in the new year. And I can imagine there being receptivity at that circle to possibly signing as well. And so then we'd get the leaders, the national leaders. We've got Sunni and Shia Muslim, Jewish, Baha'i Sikh Christian leaders there. And that would also be a kind of a, it represents an opportunity, let me say. And I could try and work that angle as well. Hi everybody. What I was thinking about was in looking at all of the stuff that's come out of churches around COP 21, the leaders looking like leaders really gets a little bit mind-numbing after a little bit. So a different angle might be to ask each level of the Kairos network to sign in front of a group of children. And leaders and board members but circle members and movement have the emails go out wide. But those images with the kids will be a unique twist. So kids can't sign the petition, but it does make it more interesting. And of all of the things that people are being asked to do right now, that does inspire them to go find a community to do it in. So it doesn't have to be, but it's a thought about how to get people to do something we might pay more attention to and get more signatures from. Thanks Karen for that idea. There's no age limit on petition signing in Ontario to confirm with the other provinces. But that could be a great way to engage people of all ages, kids standing up for their rights. Hi, it's Catherine. Yeah, I was just on the Ontario's web page and it did say that you don't need to be a VH majority for it to be legally recognized. All you have to do is have your name printed, your address, an Ontario address and a signature. That's all that's required. Okay. Thanks for checking that. It may be different from province to province. I remember when the housing for all campaign was on and it's also important for anyone who is delivering petitions to MLA's MPs or provincial legislatures to make sure that the photo opportunity is used. I see that there are a lot of things coming in on the chat, some of them overlapping. And so if we don't answer your question or refer to your comment directly, know that we will go back and read them and do our best to respond to those different comments and questions even after that our call has finished. I just wanted to speak up on Janice. Yeah, who's going to say she... Yeah. So there's two answers I would give to Janice. One is that, you know, we're finding that there's strong words in lots of places, but implementation is more of a challenge, right? And there are aspects of this process where we can see, for example, that there is residential schools related education in a particular grade level, but we're not getting the other pieces and we're not getting the mandatory across the spectrum. So I think really we're going to need to have to push on the implementation side once we have actually achieved getting the words that we are looking for everywhere. And we're beginning to see those words, but where implementation is the key. The other thing though is that because we see this in that broader context of winds of change, we're really talking about, well, what are that other parts of the 94 calls to action that would make sense for us to layer on in the next year? And the one that seems to kind of dovetail with this and makes a lot of sense for us, again, and our constituency might be 93, which is the one on newcomer education. So if we're focusing on mandatory curriculum in the schools, the other people who are, you know, new to the Canadian public school system are refugees and migrants and immigrants to Canada. And how is this these issues and these questions dealt with in terms of they dealt with just to say that it makes some sense to layer it on to say we are trying to get coverage of the entire country, right? So how do we do that through school, but also through now? Of course, there are other specific calls to action that we're working on in different ways, but I'm talking about this from the perspective of kind of entry level mass campaigning. We are working on 48, all of us hopefully together in our different ways, which is around the UN declaration. We put a statement on our site yesterday to respond to the missing and murdered inquiry. That's another one that we obviously are working on and will continue to pick up specific pieces of the calls to action. But just in terms of layering on something else, I think that that might be our next opportunity. And I really like that because in the Canadian Interface Conversation Circle last week, Imam Patal, who has been a Muslim leader in Canada for a good 20, 25 years, you know, at the beginning of the session, he said, well, you know, we're working with a lot of newcomers. And then as we began to look at the idea of treaty peoples and how privileges and resources and rights that newcomers enjoy, they come at a cost in that that whole erythymary dress. By the end of that, there was quite a bit of enthusiasm, especially by the two Muslim leaders who were in the room. Given the influx of Syrian refugees that will really sort of bump the numbers in Canada, that they could get behind this and that they saw that this was an important thing. So I think given this year or given 2016 as a time for the Interface leaders to get around this, I really like the idea that there'd be a transition to, did you say 63 or whichever? Yeah, 63. Okay. Anyway, I like that. Thank you. So I just wanted to check because I think I heard something about delivering petitions. And as I recall, the strategy was to make sure the petitions went to Cairo's first before they got delivered. And just so we're clear about that. Yes, Paul. Thanks for highlighting that. We are asking for all petitions to be at the Cairo's Toronto office by March 15. And then we will collate them by province and territory. And we will send them back to our volunteers as a group from the whole province so that they can be presented all at once in that provincial legislature. Okay, I think we've probably come to about the end of our time here. If you have further questions, certainly don't hesitate to contact myself or Katie or other staff that you're in conversation with at Cairo's. I wanted to highlight that our next update will be Thursday, January 14th, again at one o'clock. So that's the second Thursday in January at one o'clock. This is a pattern that we hope to keep so that it'll be easy to remember when these updates are happening. We will have a guest speaker again and sort of one a bit longer guest speaker and then another speaker who can give us an inspiration from the field, a story from within our network that will show how the campaign is being carried out. Next month on the organizational statement that Katie mentioned that, so a place where groups, be they unions or federations or organizations can publicly put their name behind seeing this curriculum change across the country. So that's January 14th. And for now, I just want to thank very much Jennifer Henry and particularly Jane Hubbard for coming and presenting to us and telling us more about the legacy of hope and to all the rest of you for participating and being with us. Thanks again and a Merry Christmas to everyone and we will see you in the new year. Thank you.