 Yo, any time to get serious, man, let's go to work. Let's go to work, bruh. We can sit here and listen to good music made by this man all day. Sniggy don't make bad music, bruh. It's time to go to work, bruh. I told him to make sure he put together some pimping because I knew he was coming up here. You feel me? Another type of shit you like. What's up? I noticed your first time in a trap, but it better not be yo' legs. What's up? Appreciate that. Been my partner. Whatever. One of the realest niggas in the game, Jack, represents Nashville very well. Very unique individual, man. Independent hustler been in the rap game, putting it down for a minute. Build a hardcore, strong fan base that fuck with this nigga the long way, bruh. Don't even do no shit like this. I had to put this shit together about three years. Finally made it, bruh. He coming outside to talk shit just because he fuck with me like that. Special occasion, bruh. Special occasion, man. So I gotta make sure we cover enough ground journalistically, because this shit ain't gonna be happening like that. One of, shit, a handful. He said it's the only remember the last time he did an interview. Been putting it down in the rap game for a minute, man, got one of the hardest catalogs in the game. My nigga, star leader. Welcome to the trap. What's up? Appreciate you, appreciate you for having me. Man, how the hell you been? Been all right, been all right, man. It's living. That's what's up, man. What's been going on? Fatherhood. There you go. For a motion, you know. My daily, I'm a, I like the thing, I'm probably one of the most normal rappers after. They gotta kind of take pride in it. Man, what is normal? Well, I'm saying just on a live level. Yeah. Just kind of out going some of the norms, the standards we like build up within the culture of it. You know, try to just blend in and I can enjoy doing regular shit. Yeah. Growing up so fast, growing up in this shit. Like you said, I've been at it for a while. So kind of enjoyed being at a different place. Yeah. When did you first start fucking with the music? A little over 20 years ago. I put on my first project. Yeah, yeah, we salute that shit, man. That's why we named that tour the ghetto legend, man. Cause we want to give a salute to everybody that we fucked with all the people that came before us in this life. Being in the entertainment industry, man. And that's, shit, that's a milestone, man. Especially when they say they don't give you but 15 minutes. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I put out my first project in 2003. So that was 19 years ago, but. Yeah. Yeah, I've been at it since high school, really. But I put out my first project like my sophomore year of college. It was pretty much out of the, six months later I was dropping out of college and getting a record deal. That first record deal fresh out of college, man. What'd that shit hit like? It was like college in itself. It was like a line of cart. Something to line from. It was fun, it was fun as hell, though. Yeah. What did your parents say when you like, hey, you know, I know I told you I was gonna go, you know, finish the school thing off and whatnot, but yeah, I'm gonna be a rapper. Uh, my folks was pretty supportive because it was chasing the dream. How long did it take you to convince them, though? Not saying at that moment, when did they know that you was good at rapping? I mean, around that time, it was like I was making a name for myself. I was like the guy around the way with the music between the neighborhood and between the school. So, you know how it is. I mean, we built on the buzz, like people coming at them. Like my music, that was like physical CDs, mixed tapes, you know. So people they know was in tune with my music. So it wasn't like a secret by the time I was dropping out of school. It ain't take a lot of convincing because I mean, more times or not, you go to school to get a job. You go to school to try to, you know, figure out what you're gonna do with your life. And create some opportunities on the back end of it. So my opportunity is like right in front of my face. I'm like, I'm gonna keep paying money out of my pocket to go to school. I'm gonna go get some money, you know. You know, a lot of times when people, parents be cool with them doing music, anything that got something to do with the arts, it's because they like come from a musical family or, you know, an entertainment type family. Are you first generation entertainer? Yeah, yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't none of that. Like, don't have a like super musical like background or lineage in it. I was just wanting to rap, you know. It was sports, it was basketball one night and realized that wasn't gonna take me too far. So next thing I was most interested in was the rapping. Like battle rap culture. It was a time when, you know, people would rap wherever, you know, cyphers outside, rapping, parking lot at the school and the student union centers. Wherever a crowd of people are, you know. Used to be shit no niggas, ain't no battle rap. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't just like battle rapping, like. Just rapping, that's what you, you know. The best rapper. I'm the best rapper in the world. I can take you a girder. Niggah, not in 89, what the fuck? Oh yeah, no people, man, I was waiting for that. The coldest, oldest, boldest, nigga, you have a scene. I don't need to wet no blue jeez, ha, ha, ha, ha. That type of snow, it wasn't that time, man. I was punchlines and all that thing, it was, you know. But I mean, I made a night for myself doing it, you know, along with trying to figure out how to get in the studio or how to make a song. Actually, you know, I guess I was, that's still performing art, performance art, I guess. Just being able to rap, captivate a group of people. Then you put pen and pad and, you know, craft songs. I think I'm so far moved from that. But now it's like really into the song structure, songwriting, making something that you can feel, you know. Man, does it still surprise you that half of your fans probably don't even know that you changed your name this far, Lido? Yeah, it's interesting. I listened to some of the music. He was talking about a super old song a minute ago. Yeah. And when I went by, I started, and it is kind of a trip. Cause a lot of people don't know it. You know, we got help to my music in the last 10 years. So I'm professionally going by a star Lido since I got out of that first deal. Yeah. Man, we changed our name around the same time. What was your other name? You don't want to know. You'll never look at that nigga the same. Just call him Jack. It was for the best. He made his mark though. It's still a lot of people that only know him as his own name. A lot of people didn't accept Jack Thriller. The funny thing about that shit too is the niggas didn't want to call me that shit back in the day, but they not that I'm Jack. They go out of their way and they call me the old shit. Just you know what I'm saying as a reminder. It's funny now. I knew the nigga when he was such and such. It's a time stamp. Yeah, for sure. I mean, that's all some people dream and let me know how long they been rocking with me. It's a sign. What made you change your name though? Why the face lift? In part it was like, like I said, I had a record deal and it kind of, I feel like it ran its course. It was more or less stagnant. And so it was rebranding myself kind of a make sure way to get out of the deal. If you will, I was just like, okay, well, the rights to my recordings under this name belong to somebody else. I'm just going to put out a music under a different name almost. I mean, it was me trying to, I guess, be a wise guy about it. And then it just stuck. It was kind of catchy. You know, I was already kind of referring to myself as dead within the music. I had a project called Starly Dolls Way kind of playing out the Carly Dolls Way, the movie. That shit hard too, if you ain't never heard it. I know it's a lot of people watching from different pockets of the world. Fuck with that one. Yeah, so that project was like, it was working for me. And I just kind of ran with it from that, from like a concept project to gotta ring to it. Cause my original name that I like signed was two of them long. It was All Star Cashbills Prince. Cause it was like, there was already a DJ, a thing named All Star. So we couldn't actually register that name. I was like, I don't want this long ass name. And it was kind of like, I ain't gonna call myself to print some of my city forever. Like, you know, at 19, that was, I guess the theme was cool at the time. But I'm like, wow, it was just. Hold on, who was the king of the city? Oh, I mean, I think it was just, it was kind of like announcing that I'm next up. Did, got you. May have been several kings, it was just, like I said, I was a teenager. I was the youngest person putting out music around my way at that time, like putting out my own music especially. So. How many times you had to buy yourself out of the contract? Oh, I think not formally. That didn't really happen because my first deal it didn't generate that much money. It wasn't, you know what I'm saying? It was business, like I got an advance and there was money being spent. But they service the few singles and it kind of at a point was like, just kind of go a separate ways, just cut our losses kind of thing. So it wasn't like a buyout kind of thing. Once it ran its course, I just didn't, I didn't continue to do business with the people I was doing business with at the time. When you chose the name Starleto, what was the process of it? And like, what were some things that you had before it leading up to Starleto? Like I said, I'll start. It was the sports thing, like from just being a basketball player and just want to be on top of my game, if you will. And the Starleto thing kind of came from that move at the time or quality of it was one of my favorite moves because the main character was just trying to get out the game, you know what I'm saying? He was doing everything, like get out the streets, get out the way, and it was, you know, the... Kept sucking them back in. Right, the lure, and I felt like that was kind of where I was in life. You know, like I said, I went to college and now I'm not running from being educated or, but I'm still like from where I'm from. And I wanted to use rap as a segue away from all that bullshit. So I felt like it was a parallel and a character. And like I said, it just kind of played. Play on words, play off that name. Really didn't have like a... I probably went by something else when I was probably 15, just first rapping, but I ain't put out no music under the... You know what other names was then. And you and Don Tripp got together and put a whole movement in play, man. How did that shit come together? I think, man, Tripp linked in like 2010, something like that. Yo God, he was trying to sign a trip. I was doing business with Yo God at the time. And it was when, around the time, when Don Tripp first signed with Interscope, we first just had a big buzz. He was like popping on YouTube. Freestyle was going crazy. And God had bought him to Nashville with him. Just had him on the road, they passed through. And we linked, you know, I heard the stuff without it was cold, came to the spot. We knocked out a few songs and it was just kind of like, yeah, we on to something, we should do some more music. And at the time I was just watching the movie, stepbrothers like On Loop in the studio. I just thought it was just some funny ass movies. That shit funny. From your some activities. When they can put their motherfucking nuts on the drum set. Yeah, bro. And I was like, man, we should do, you know, we should run with this, you know, the camaraderie they had. It was just like grown ass kids, overgrown, like both shit and shit. Exactly. And I think that was the first song on the project we called it both songs. It was just playing all just, just quirky stuff within that movie. And then chef fast forward over the next seven years we put out like three projects, tour, you know, indie tours, tour nationally off of something just kind of branding out there. Stepbrothers, if it would. Man, that's some, that's some, if like that shit just feels so organic. Yeah, it just kind of happens. Like I said. That's some real type of shit. Yeah, for sure. But it came from like being willing to give props, to give it up. You know, a lot of times in the rap world, man, people like too tough or they aren't good or too full of themselves. Probably across the board, even for what y'all do, it's probably people that's cold or know y'all cold, but they won't give it up for y'all like that. Hey, what's up? It's your man, Carlos Miller, February the 18th. I will be in Savannah, G8. Yes, yes, you heard that right. At the end of the day tour, he's coming to Savannah, February the 18th. What's the name of the spot? At the Johnny Mercer Theater. Well, I've been having a ball in Oakland. I love this goddamn city. Y'all got the funniest homeless people I ever seen. I gave him a nigga $3. He acting like those were the three he needed to not be homeless no more. Soon as I gave him the money, you didn't put me back in the motherfucking game. Niggas tried to whistle at me, didn't even whistle, just made the noise. Now if you, we're in, come here. We're in, let me holler at you right quick. Johnny Mercer Theater, February the 18th. At the end of the day, Carlos Miller, eight o'clock is going down in Savannah. Hit the link, get those tickets, man. You already know, February the 18th at the Johnny Mercer Theater, I will be in Savannah. Cause at the end of the day, you need to come see me. Hey man, everybody, 85. 85 South Shore family, 85% is mad. I got a new podcast about the war on drugs, man. And make sure you check it out. I think it's one of the dopest podcasts cause we really talk about everything that's kind of missing from what we already know about the war on drugs. You know it's racist. The war on drugs, yeah. The war on drugs podcast, listen to it everywhere, live it for good, iHeartMedia, Apple Music, Spotify. Any way you can listen to the podcast, check it out. You already know the war on drugs races and it's unjust and it's fucked up for people who have less, right? Well, we gonna go into why it's that way. And it's exactly what you thought, and even more. So yeah, it's me, Greg Glard, the good people that live for good, the war on drugs podcast. Yeah, tell the 85% of them to watch it cause they listen to what you tell them. Why do you want the war on drugs podcast? Well, don't watch it, listen. Cause you can't watch it. I'll get my listen to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's audio, listen to it on the ride, a lot of information, stuff we need to hear. Throw podcasts, let's go. The war on drugs podcast, let's get it. Nah, they can't, that's it, man. I don't know what that shit about. It happens. And so it was kind of rare, like, crossing paths, like, man, this ain't cold. And the same thing, he's willing to give it up and we just put it together. Rather than being like, okay, I know he good, and I know I'm good, and it's gonna be competitive. I'm gonna try to shit on him, act like I don't see what he got going on. It was more so, like, where I see you coming up. I had been in it at that time with six, seven years professionally. Also, I didn't want to see somebody make the same mistakes I had made. So it was like, whatever I could add to what he had going on. And for sure it brought me up too. Because he was, like I said, the YouTube world, he had a different kind of buzz than I did. So I was able to kind of, like, take my underground thing, catch it up to speed, what was going on, like, on the internet. Yeah. And crawl like a new audience. Your audience at the time, when you actually had to go outside and do flyers and promo and radio and all this shit, now you're seeing that people can just literally jump online, upload some shit. Whether they know who these people are or not. And the shit, the sound may go viral and people have to find out who the person is that said the shit. Sure, sure. Yeah, it's different, man. It's different. I mean, it's a technology. I mean, the time's gonna change. It's about staying ahead of the curve and forward thinking. Because, I mean, every couple of years we had a new platform. We got a new way of presenting. It's just information, you know. How would you introduce yourself to the new generation? Like, a lot of them watch this show. Or do you even care about that? I was just about to say, man, it's crazy to sound like, I don't, like, I ain't- They find you, they find you. Yeah, I ain't that stuck on myself as far as it goes. I feel like I've done what I done at this point. I'ma continue to do it as it makes sense. I just like, kinda go out for feelings. So if it finds you and it moves you, like, I mean, I'm starting it all. I made music, like, it just kinda starts and then it's done. And everything, I feel everybody. It's like, I listen to some stuff and I'm like, damn, I don't feel like that no more. I ain't in that headspace, but I was. Right then, it was like a snapshot of time capsule. Yeah, absolutely. Do you ever find yourself trying to, like, feeling like, damn, I wish I could catch that same hunger or be that guy one more time? Sometime when I look at my old shit, I admire him, but I, like you just said, I don't got it no more. And when people ask me, can I do that? Why don't you do that anymore? Right. I don't think I, I do look at it like, damn, it's different. I feel different about this shit, like. But I'm not necessarily, like, chasing that. I'm not chasing no light I once had because I just realized that's what that was. Whatever I was going through, you know, environmentally or just, it's a time capsule. Like, music I made in a given moment. I just, I wanted to be pure. I wanted to reflect something that is just like the human experience. So, like, I sound different than I did. You know, probably a few, you know, smoked a few or whatever. Like, just things that change your voice, you know, your temper, man. Hatings, everything. Yeah, everything. Like, if it's hunger, like once upon a time, I wanted to be hurt so bad. Now I got to the point where it's like, I ain't really talking unless I got something to say. Like, I ain't just, like, check me out. You know, I'm like, nah. Do you still feel like you underground? For sure, for sure, yeah. Why is that? Um, because I feel like my buzz or my audience is like homegrown. I feel like I earn my fans, my audience, I should say, like one by one almost. And, like, it's nontraditional. Like, I ain't had a song on the radio in 12 years, something like that. Um, I mean, I've had music videos playing on TV. I use a lot of networks and I format my stuff like a mainstream artist or, you know, I place it in the same marketplace. But my whole thing since I went independent was to go against the grind and do it my way and if you build it there, come kind of thing. So it's not like, I mean, I'll partner in a dump business with companies, but it's nobody really like empowering what it is that I do. No corporate interests. Nah, not really, not really. I mean, like I said, I work with people, but it's gonna be on my time and on my times. Like working with people on some music shit. Like you said, you been in the game for a minute. Who left on your list of people you want to work with? That's hard to say. Um, probably singers and not too much on the rapping. Yeah. Like to, you know, work with it. R&B artists that I grew up with. I was listening to Tony Tone, Tone, whatever on the ride down, but I was like, damn music don't sound like this no more. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna work with like somebody in that line, you know? If anything. But I just, I like to work with people that don't want to work with me. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. That's why I work with Jack. I know that nigga love to work with me, man. Man, when I was with my heart. Fuck you, man. Who don't talk to this nigga, man? Yeah, I don't overestim myself too much. Yeah. Things happen how they're supposed to. 2003, when you was all Starr Cashville friends, what did the dream look like? And what does it look like now for you? So it was just like being hired, trying to, you know, get out into the world, it's like coming to age. Like I was, I said, what, 18, 19 years old, I put out my first project and we just, just figuring life out, you know? But is there a certain level of place that you saw yourself that you want, like, if you was the, did you want to be the next 50 cent? Did you want to be the next Tupac or dream this like that? How big did you want to do it? Or did you just, was it really just about being hired? On one level, it was about being hired. I think I could say this is like looking back when I just take my whole journey in. I think once upon a time I was like afraid of being successful and that's like a real thing. Like you think you want a certain level of success or appeal or whatever until you get it, until you get close to it and it's like, oh, shit. Like it's a lot, it's damn not too much kind of thing. And so somewhere in my mind, you know, What was that moment though? Probably like sign on cash money even. Like I can remember being at the house that was on a crib, a home living or whatever, BT, MTB shows, like it was up the house in New Orleans. The jacuzzi in the middle of the living room and shit. I remember like pulling up there or seeing these cars. I was at a pool party, I think Essence Fest, like summer 04. And I'm like, I'm around all these people that I've been watching on TV the last like five, six years or people like I really listened almost to that music exclusively at the time. Like, you know, we're from the south, from the mid-south. Like that was soundtrack to the hood. I'm like, damn, I'm on right here amongst these people. Like, and it's like, you almost ask yourself, what the hell I'm doing here? Like, I mean, Every time around this nigga, I always feel like, man, I don't belong here. And I remember being at a pool party, like probably like you meeting, you making peers of people that you, you know, they held up in the, in the starting of the steam. How to respect this shit? What's the? How to respect it? Like people show up, I got the utmost respect. So I know eventually working with them. Yeah. And they become, you like what made you, you know, comrades, friends and shit like that. Traveling and like, damn, you know, it seems at that age, like I said, to that point I was a dream look like, it was almost like surreal. And then you don't have no training and no practice for this shit. So you just... Coming out of nowhere. Yeah. And I mean, I think being amongst people that have had that like, that level of success, you can kind of almost find yourself feeling out of place. Like, I think if I had to like, view anything is, it's not a regret, but like a mistake is like, trying to fit in instead of trying to stand up. You know what I'm saying? Because like you're amongst others, like, damn, I need to move like this. So I want to do what they've already done. When in fact I was doing some shit, you know, in my own way, in my own lane, I look back like I should have just kept shipping away, approaching things the way that I was doing it that got me in those rooms. It got me around those people versus like, all right, how can I make something that fits in with a brand of stuff? And eventually, you know, I figured that out for myself. It's like, man, I'm gonna be the best version of me. There's nobody that could be me better than me kind of thing, you know. I think I made a lot of progress once I figured that out for myself. And it's nothing to be afraid of in terms of success, because I don't measure it against what anybody else got going on. And that's back to the underground thing. Hell yeah, but shit, even still though, you wanted the motherfuckers who made the underground shit work for them. Yeah. Like, you successful at it. And like, that shit is the hardest fuck, man. What kind of tips and tricks and advice would you give to the next generation who want to follow, who see you do it and say, shit, I want to do it like Lito. He made that shit work. Oh, gotta figure out what works for you. I mean, I think for sure, like, being innovative, like, I mean, I understand the question, but like, you doing it, you know what I'm saying? The brand, the child building is like, have your own times, have your own standards. And like, say you build it, they'll come. Like, I don't think I have like a blueprint for nobody to follow, because so much of this came with no rules. Like, so it was figuring out like, I think this is a good idea. I'm just gonna just match with it. I'm gonna go with it and see if it stick, kind of thing, you know what I mean? You ain't had a deal though in 12 years, right? Oh, I had like distribution deals. Distribution deals, you been independent pretty much since then. What point did you say, you know what, I'm gonna do this myself. Fuck a deal. I don't need, I'm not signing with nobody else. I think I got this now. I know what they was doing over there. Man, just figuring out, like I said, I started to understand the power to reach of the internet and just like direct to consumer. Like, that's where it was going, like, out. We used to go to a record store every Friday and get the album just come out on Tuesdays, but we had record stores that would sell the music early on Fridays. We used to go to a record store and like physically pick up CDs. Eventually I start getting my music from dialogue links. Right on your phone. Right. And I'm like, well, I mean, I can, I don't gotta press up CDs no more. I'm cutting out a lot of overhead, you know? So, like, I'm just a regular label would not, in general, it's artists that do it now and more so would, they wouldn't let you drop a project every month. But yeah, I had a studio with a spot, so I could record music as fast as I could come up with it as long as I had some beats or whatever. And I was just like, man, I'm just gonna just keep trying, keep shipping away. And just, you know, I think I'ma use what's right in front of me, use my resources. I'm like, I don't really, cause at a point it wasn't even about selling the music and it was just about being heard. Like, we used to press up all these CDs to jump out and traffic and hand them out and give them away. I mean, we sold other CDs locally, but a lot of that was problem over. You was saying you got a promo disc. Hell yeah. It's like. Look, I don't want this to be weird or nothing, but what you doing February the 17th? It's like three days after Valentine's Day. 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It was just like him, most basic handheld camera, being a booth recording and self-rapping on a very basic set up, but it was like no frills. This was rapping, this purest form, and he was having, like, millions of views out there. At the time, I probably hadn't shot three videos, five, like, actual music videos. I maybe had a couple, like, that had some kind of production quality to it, because being on the label and at the time, like, music videos just cost, like, five figures on the low end. So if you got a deal, it's gonna chew your budget up to shoot one video at that time. It was like, you got crews and setups. They had... It was like shooting the movie. Exactly. It was huge. The set up for it was huge. As technology went to handhelds and, you know, a lot of, I won't even say corners get cut, it's just the standard of how you do stuff is different. Like I said, bro, the most basic setup you could possibly have, and it was drawing people in. So it was like, damn, I don't even... That's not where my appeal comes from. But, like, we went from doing that music, and we went and shot a bunch of music videos. We shot, like, five videos for the first project, and got, like, tens of millions of views, and that was new to me. You know, I didn't... I think I might have had one video that had a million views at the time. And, um, versus everything was putting out, so it was, like, out of here, you know. How much was the videos that y'all was shooting? How much did they cost? Yeah. Nine five figures. Right, nowhere near, right? Nah, nah, at the time, I can't say exactly, I'm not sure, but, um, trying to think... It wasn't, like, damn near free like it is now, especially if you buy a camera and you had one. Yeah, I was gonna say, we bought camera, that was the thing. Because he done trouble shooting and editing his videos, right? The original stuff, when he was in a booth, I think he was... I'm pretty sure he was putting that together, so, yeah, all the way across, but by the time we was doing videos for that project, we were working with videographers and, um, working with people, like, buying some of those cameras, buying the Canon cameras, the handhelds, and, um, then we shot a couple of them on, like, red cameras, and, you know, this was 2011, so that was some of the... They changed the game with the videos. Yeah, some of those cameras and setups were, like, nice. Yeah, elaborate, but like I said, it wasn't... It didn't cause what it caused in the decade prior. People were shooting, like, on 70s back then? Yeah, I think I bought a couple of 70s during that time. Yeah. But, here, think about it, you buy one, and then you fuck around and get a video that go viral. Yeah, you done paid for it and that. Sure. It's worth it, it's worth it. Well, you're creating a job for somebody around you, because it was buying stuff just to get people around. Yeah. Something to do. You figure out how to work this camera. Exactly. Are you gonna be around anyway? Are you gonna be sitting here while I'm recording? Like, let's, you know, you got a job, man. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Jack used to direct a few videos and shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did. My president is Black with GZ. Okay. Yeah, I was assistant director on that. Couple of the, um... Yeah, brought up GZ, man. You had, you and GZ had a hit when he was first really getting successful in the game, man. You got to catch that wave with him, too, man. What was that moment like? Yeah. Man, it was part of that. Everything happened in real fast. Yeah, yeah. It was the Gregg-U's song that ended up on a little bit of everybody's mixtapes and otherwise. It was cool. It was a different Atlanta then. I mean, I'm from Nashville. We just come to Atlanta to kick it and party. It was always, you know, a party city and just a different pasting back home. So that was cool to be a part of that whole wave. It was kind of the tail end of the crunk era thing and then trap music and street music kind of went somewhere else. It was born. Yeah, it kind of went somewhere else. Because that was on trap or dad? Yeah. It was. So I mean, it's cool to have my journey like overlap with a lot of other peoples that have, you know, done some big things and just, even if it was just a small part of those legacies and stories, like this was cool. It's a cool thing to have work with the biggest artists in certain moments of hip hop over the course of like 15 years or so. Yeah. Man, I see you and Spitter putting together a nice movement. You don't even know that. People been asking for that for a long time. I know you get on social media every so often and you see you'll get probably 15 mentions, man, go on 85s after them. Every time they do this, you know, send it straight to him and be like, Lito, come on, man. Yeah, every time. What you and Spitter cooking up, man? We do the mic some more music. We been touring, we done quite a few shows together this year and hopefully we might get in the studio today or tomorrow. We got a concert down Atlanta tomorrow. Just working, I mean, we go back 0506, you know. Pierce, that's what I'm saying, to come up together. Yeah, like we're mates at one time. We was on cashmoney at the same time. At all. We used to have like photo shoots and shit for like, we had something for a couple of shoots for like magazines and doing press and things like that. They got the wave, wave, wave back in the day. What's your fondest memory of being on cashmoney? One of them ones you'll never forget. I don't have this memory. You still got that chain? Hell no. I ain't saying it like that, I just, who knows where it is. It's lost in the south somewhere. It's like that. Man, I think I probably left on some other dresser or something, like just living fast. I was, I was stuck at that time. Once it was gone, it was gone. I heard, yeah, I heard plenty of stories like that. Are you thinking of that? I just wanted to tell you, man, it's like, you always rap like about independence and, you know what I'm saying? The business part of it too, man. And we salute that. It's certain artists that always push that type of shit where it's like, the music gonna be good and they still gonna be saying some good shit. So I wanted to let you know that that's why I fuck with it. Cause that's what give me the type of motivation to do shit like this, man. It's people like pushing for like niggas to own their own shit and have their own shit. My father's memory, the cash money, I was just trying to make sure I answered that question. Was probably working alongside and being able to like witness Lil Wayne in his element of, you know, him becoming a super, super, super star. Cause I grew up on his music and I was a huge fan already. Working with him, you know, have collaborated and been featured on the album and went platinum. But like seeing him in the studio was like, it was, that was an experience I was on. And definitely sucked up some things, like work ethic wise. And also just like I said, witnessing it cause it was like, it went from in my generation or the era that I came up in, it was at least for my immediate peers, it was kind of like our favorite rapper cause it was close to our age or whatever. And to see him kind of become everybody's favorite rapper, more or less. And- I used to listen to his first album driving to high school. Yeah. And just to be like amongst it, like whenever you had that run of 70, 80 songs, you know, features and whatever it was, it was some crazy stats. But like I was around, you know what I'm saying? I was around during that time. It was like, damn, you know, there's some of that I took with me and applied in my own way. Not in a sushi store- What's your process now? Like you're recording process. You recording the daytime or the nighttime? Man, whenever, whenever I get the urge, like that's kind of always as being, I try to keep a set up wherever I live. So if I roll over out of bed, I can go press the buttons and if I just get an idea, I want to jot four lines down and just put this down so I don't forget it. But I mean, sometimes I like to get outside of the crib and go to, you know, nicer studios, bigger studios and feel like a rapper, if you will, or whatever. But it ain't really a daytime or nighttime thing. You need some girls in the studio? Not necessarily. Not necessarily. I mean, it depends on what the vibe is, what kind of music you making. And I'm for sure having people around, you know, it's inspiring or, you know, just even just kicking shit. If this was a studio session, something that we saying might end up on the track or, you know, make for a concept or sometimes a women of course is give you something to play out for. Yeah, the energy be different. See, we got to make sure we ask the questions because we be doing a terrible job of asking the fans question and shit. So we want to ask questions that the fans are like, man, why you ask them? So like, I got to ask you this, as a creative person, as a talented person, how do you avoid and get over writer's block or creative block? I'm saying never did shit for y'all. Yeah. I try not to focus on it as far as a block, like, cause I don't really even think about it like that. Like I'm either like on it or I'm not. And I don't really trick when I'm not cause I feel like some of the best music, best material I've come up with was like impromptu. It just was a feeling. It was just like, I got an idea and I'm going to just try it or whatever. So you never know what it would come from. I'm going to be, I've written a lot of raps like in the car. You know, I wasn't intentionally writing. It's just maybe because I wasn't sitting still and focused on it by a sub and something comes up. Yeah, sure it is. I got it. Young up and coming rappers gonna hear you on here and they listening, they hear what you're saying. There's a, you know, one of their niggas. So I wanted to ask you what kind of like recording sheets can you give out to the young up and coming rappers? You've been a, you've been an up and coming rapper. Like some, some shit that you figured out fucking round. And you're like, okay, if I do this, it'll fuck, it'll improve this. Any recording secrets that you can give the, give the people out there. February 25th, get what we're going to be at. Philadelphia at the Colo Militia. Selma clock, same thing, every time Selma clock. Hey, y'all going to the Colo show? It's at Selma clock. Selma. Does it feel like you're paying more for delivery fees than your meals? With dash pads from DoorDash, you'll never have to worry about that again. 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Because, like I said, as my voice has changed over time, I got more a relaxed tone. And being able to rap like I talk, and it'll still be audible. It'll still be getting the levels together. It ain't a cheat code to that, because it's in a mix. But I went back to college and studied recording industry, I think, in 2009. And I was sitting in class learning how to read EQs and just part of the grab, looking at it from almost like a science level. Levels and shit. And I had been at it. I had been a professional for maybe six, seven years at that time, but I wanted to understand it better. Study your crap. Yeah, to me, that was almost a cheat code. It's not a specific like, man, use this plug-in. Because it's about how you wanted to sound. But like. Find your sound. Yeah. But to me, it was like trying to just understand it on different levels helped me. Because it helped me getting to where I can work with almost any engineer, because I know how to describe what it is that I'm trying to get out of. I can kind of speak that language, or I know what's going on on that screen. I think that something like you said with videos, like I know how to edit videos and all that. I don't like to use time with something, but I know how to ask for or I know how to get what I'm trying to get out of a project or whatever. You was talking about earlier about, you know, you appreciate being able to do normal things now, and you just move on the side of a relaxed mode. So you know, with that being said, you should talk about being a normal rapper. What were some of the heels of the game that you could do without? Man, this ain't it. Like, the whole status, like a lot of this ends up feeling like you're wearing a mask almost. And the thing about it, when you're wearing a mask, you got to keep it on all the time. Because in this, as an entertainer, a public figure or whatever, it's not like I can go outside and just today and decide I'm not who I've been this entire time. You know, so I was pumping gas before I jumped on the road. I heard there's somebody just calling next to him, lead up, ground on, you know. And to me, it's great. And nobody knew me or nobody cared. I ain't doing a very good job. But you know, you got to, you know what I'm saying? That's like every person. That's just what it is, you know what I'm saying? You can't run from it. If I just woke up tomorrow like I ain't doing music no more, that don't mean I'm not going to have that same appeal to somebody that's been tuned in already. So I say the ills or the downside of it is like, when you put yourself out there for the public, like it ain't necessarily all positive. Everybody ain't going to like you kind of thing. Like being popular or whatever comes with another side to like be it a envy or whatever. I mean, just like who is stuff. Everybody's not going to like your come up, you know what I'm saying? And on the other side of that is like, people will go out their way, you know what I'm saying? Because you up or because you coming up, just to make that self-confidence on the other side of that. And so it's like, I mean, you got to just like, you in and you out, you got to take the bitter with the sweet. It's not as if I would trade in any successes just to avoid that, but it's just, that's the ills that we're coming with. And it's just a lot of levels too, man. Because I've been through a lot. You know the game, Jack. It's the same all the way around. They don't. There's a lot of people out there don't. What have been some of the ills of the game for you, Jack? Some of your ups and downs. Man. Yeah. Hoes. Hoes, man. You chose that? I chose them. Yeah. Yeah, I did that. And yeah, if I could do it over again, I would have been homeless. Yeah. That would have depth. I think that's the only one of the things that, and I would have focused a little bit more, I would not have a little bit more, a lot more on the business. That's something I would go back into the old Jack thriller. Get the business part right? Get that shit right. It wouldn't work? And fuck them hoes, yeah. I thought you was out here, goddamn. Handling business, Jack. No, I was out here, I was just, I was on a, I was just working. And like I said, like he was saying earlier, it wasn't even about the business. For me, I was trying to be heard. And then to the point where I was being heard, so much time was just going by like that. Yeah. And then next thing you know, like you be one of the most famous broke-nickers. You know what I'm saying? So you got to be cognizant of that and pay attention to what's going on. Cause I was one of the first of my kind, you know, with that trend, trend set of pioneer. And so, you know, it's a little, a lot. That's a good question. Did the money change, Lito? And you go from, like you said, you go from chasing the dream to having more than you ever thought you, you're like, you have a number. Then you get past that number. Now you like. Yeah, it changed you. It changed your standards. It changed, you know, changed what you think. It changed, not necessarily like it, you know, changed you for the worst, but yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I should do this for free. You should do this for nothing. And like, I catch myself and sorry, mama's like, damn, I'm getting this to do that. You know, for something I would have done for free, would have done it just for the sport of it or just the love of it. And I, you know, certain times I'm like, man, I gotta, I gotta get out there and just hustle. You know, cause you can get spoiled. Yeah. You'll get spoiled, but you get used to, like you said, once you figure out the business and figure out a capitalized or make it work for you, then it's like, I catch myself and I've done it a couple of times this year. I'm like, man, what? I'm doing features, you know. And, and I'm trying to work with underdogs. I'm trying to work with people that I've heard of, trying to work with people's budgets. Cause I'm like, what's the process of getting the lead on feature these days? Well, it's tapping in with whatever the content, I'll put a contact out there or, you know, profiles and otherwise like, it's people that work with me or represent me in that regard, answer the phone and mediate that kind of stuff. I don't really like to deal with it, hands on parts and the less like, I know y'all, that's why I'm doing interviews or I'm like talking to strangers really. But the business of it is like, I catch myself like, man, I'm gonna work with you. I'm gonna work with your budget. Cause like I said, I used to do this for nothing. Like, just pay my daughter tuition, like go rap, that's sweet, you know. But it's a sweet lick almost. But I mean, it is work. And for sure, I built it up to where it's worth whatever to whoever, you know. But yeah, I mean, it does and will change you. That's, I feel like it's in the job. Like when you get to the point where you're a professional or you, anybody working, not working for money, you know, most levels. So, you know, the money sometimes can change how you approach the work, you know. Yeah. How you react to shit, too. Yeah. You remember your first big purchase, man, when you started getting the money that you wanted? These got damn cool, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, I mean, purchase a few things. I remember buying like at the time, like a dream car, stuff like that. What was your dream car, man? Oh, at the time I was wanting a Porsche. I wanted a Ford or a Porsche. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was just, you know, coming up when I was, first time I rode in one, I was like, I'm gonna get one of these. And to eventually, you know, get one was like, damn, I came up, because I remember just seeing it, liking it, driving it, like, damn. Versus, and truthfully, a lot of stuff, once you get it, it's just a thing. I think just growing up, growing out of certain material things, I mean, I'm still alone there. There's things that I want, and I go get it. Or I grind, you know, up to the point of being able to get it, or to get, you know, aspiration. Do you something to work for? But I still want one. The only reason I didn't get one is because my dog got one. I was like, I can't get one now. Yeah. I almost got enough to get mine. I want a Batmobile. Like a replica Batmobile? No, a real Batmobile. Jack, ain't nobody about to let you drive shit, bruh, it's a whole lot. I just want it. I'm gonna just have it. You have a driver. I'm gonna have a jail, just have me a little Alfred-ass nigga driving me around. Your car, sir. Thank you, Alfred. This nigga Jack, I want one, man. That's one of these. Very good. And the crazy part is he would wear a Batman suit every time he riding in motherfuckers. I don't want him to know it's me. You don't think they're gonna know it's you, a nigga in a Batman suit? Yeah. What a... God damn it. If they're gonna see the store in my head. That's what I'm saying. You too fucking obvious, man. Yeah, yeah. That's real up, man. Somebody draw Jack Thriller with a Batman suit on. Make him look like the real Batman, too. But keep him as the same him. Now, cough my body out a little bit. Nah, I fuckin' leave. Give him some muscles, but leave the stomach and shit. It's gonna be... You gonna have stomach muscles and shit. You know, man, you fuckin' with any of this media shit now, man. I'm trying to figure it out, man. The son of the thing, shit. Like, I'm trying to figure out the hustle of it. Like, trying to... I mean, I'm learning. I'm studying up on it, but... I mean, it's... We in a information age, but it's also, like, on demand culture, like... Yeah. I mean, I got traditional cable, but I don't use it. You know what I'm saying? I watch what I wanna watch, when I wanna watch it, like, we got everything. Yeah, that's the best part about this shit, bro. I never thought that you would be able to pick what the fuck you wanna watch on TV. Right. I got a fast dick, $10 a month. Is it? I can watch everything, all the fights, all the porno, but I don't watch the porno. It's too funky, too. You know this, Holly, what? Who loaded it up for you? My boy, Sam, Sam Audio. All right, man. If you need a fast dick, then do it. I need one, Jay, give me one. I got you already. Appreciate that. How many TVs you got? I got a gang of them. Give me about five of them. Five TVs? Okay, cool. Give me about five of them. It sound like, hey, it's on me. I got you. Appreciate it. How you feel about it, like obviously, like you existing in that space? Like what are we doing now, even? How you feel about it being on such a populated space now? It's underpopulated. You still think that's the case? Yeah, because you gotta think about it. As black people, man, we at least 200 years behind in communication. Mm-hmm. I was just about to say, I just watch people talk all the time on YouTube. That's the thing about it, bro. This is, we at that time right now, Okay, ladies and gentlemen, February the 27th, the 2023 listen, at the Goodyear Theater in Akron, Ohio. Guess who's gonna be there? Me? Hell yeah, Selma Clock. It's gonna be at Selma Clock. Grab them tickets and meet me in Akron, Ohio at Selma Clock. Do you hear me? Selma Clock. What's up, y'all? Show girl XP. And it's your girl, Drayna Cole. And one thing about us, baby, we gonna be outside. And we gonna do some karaoke. Y'all have been asking us for the longest to have a karaoke night and we finally got that shit together. Yes. And on top of that, not only is it just me and Lex, we got music style, child too. So if you wanted to have your moment and really sing in front of everybody and blow, you, I don't care if you singing, juggling, rapping, whatever you do, we want y'all to send y'all tapes in. Now there's only a few slots available. You have to be in Atlanta. This event is at City Winery in Atlanta on March 1st. So you have to be in Atlanta to participate. So if you're in Atlanta, send y'all tape in. We wanna hear you sing, rap, juggle. Blow fire. Whatever you do. Whatever you do. We wanna see that shit. Send the tapes in. And mind you, this is a competition. So me, music, Andrea will be judging you. And on top of that, if you win, you get the grand prize. So make sure y'all come and see us. And even if you just wanna come turn up, come on City Winery. Come watch the show. Yeah, come watch the show. Link below. See y'all soon. Period. Got the freedom to communicate with each other. Even if we don't necessarily like or agree with the content, we still need to hear the other opinions of other people who look like us. You get what I'm saying? Because let them tell it. Like, we only let 1% of us represent us. Because we don't have no way to rebuttal. Yeah. So you know what I'm saying? So when shit happens and they pick the black story of the week, we don't get, we don't have no platform where we could be like, that's not true. Right. Well, that's not the real story. That's not it. That's not all of us. I mean, like we need platforms like this where we can express ourselves and give our opinions, man. Cause we don't, like we're not represented in a lot of places. Yeah, I feel that. I just, I watched so many things of like people, you know, it was like, almost history. Like, I mean, like you, you asking me questions to catch people up to speed on my story, but just so many things I watched people get out of jail and then they tell, they're giving their war stories of like, you might have heard of this person, but now let's give them a, you know what I'm saying? They got a whole running series of, yeah, this is all the crazy stuff I was doing to make that name for myself. And it's like, man, that's better than, not necessarily better, but that's as captivating as watching the sitcom or watching. It fill in a whole lot of blanks. It give you, it fill out the character profile. Yeah, on so many levels. Like, yeah, this what you've been through. Okay, now it makes sense. Now it's like, okay, that's the way that's, that's why you are the way you are. Cause you've been through so much shit. Of course you don't want to talk about that type of shit. Look at, look at what you survived. Yeah. Like we, you grow up like bigger than Tupac even. That was a, that was an era. That was a time. But here we are for 25 or so years later and you getting first hand accounts of so many people that were right there. You know, that's like, damn. I mean, they're gone. Of course they can't tell their own story. But it's like, damn, this is, this is vivid. Obviously we didn't, like you said, we couldn't chronic a little in a real time and this wasn't like people walking around with camera phones like, like now. And think about it, you said 25 years. Think of how many people have come and gone in the last 25 years that haven't been mentioned in 24 years. Yeah. These, look how much shit they were able to accomplish in 25 years. Them dudes was young as hell when they died. Yeah. And look how much shit they got. They still trying to put out pieces of verses and outtakes and you know what I mean? Still trying to put something together to keep that legacy going, man. That's impact. I ain't think about it as an underpopulated space because it's so much to consume. But that's just, as I was like the internet and like just. It's so much dope content being put out by black people that's not being recognized. That's like so many other people that can just rip the content off for free and do their version of the content that they saw. Cause they know that the people that they're stealing from ain't gonna never get the same opportunities as them. You hear it, you see it every day. So. But as black people, we like, everybody like, man, everybody got a podcast. It's not even that. We are very underrepresented in the media space period, man. We need to take over media. We're the most entertaining people. Do you think that kind of comes with it? Is it almost like a stigma or just a thought that all everybody's doing it because a lot of stuff is like parallel or similar. Like a lot of platforms, a lot of people are are kind of doing the same or similar version or the, I don't want to say the same things, but I don't know what works. Think about it. You don't think it's some motherfuckers out here in college who do some black kids doing podcasts about physics and graduating and dropping out of college. Look, the shit that goes viral is the shit that's picked by the people. Of course the podcast with all them finance strippers gonna go viral. So you gonna think that every podcast is this type of content. But if you like shit, you have to find it. Yes I do. And that's what I'm saying. Like, can you imagine what it would be like if you could flip the fucking TV and as opposed to it being just BET and a couple of channels with some black people on it? It was a whole fucking channel of black people. Every one of these 800,000 channels that you got, 700,000 of them is black. Like we don't have enough variety of shit to pick the shit that we don't like. It's only one, a one, a one, a one, a one, a one. So yeah, I encourage everybody to make a podcast or just some kind of media or content. Something even if it's, like I said, it don't have to be my favorite but that don't mean that it don't have to exist. We got this thing about it only being one. We need variety, man. We need to be seen as much as possible. Yeah, I guess for myself because the ideas I have for it, like one in corporate sports and like I said, just current things with my entries. I'm just not dead, I'm not dead like outward or that candid. I don't really personally, like I feel like we do have all those tools but I don't like to overshare. I actually be in the space of feeling like, man, nobody care what I think about that. I'm sure if somebody does, but to make that. That's what make people go by music. Yeah, but I feel like. That point of view. I feel like I've always done it through the music. And at a point, if I'm for sure, like you said, it's a space for it. But I'm like, if I commit out as energy to doing it as a talking personality, am I gonna take away from what goes into my artistry? Because I've always like tried to weave what was going on around me, like in the current sense. Like some of my projects, some of my rap, so even a time capsule, like I'm like referencing things that are very much of the now kind of thing, right? I'm like, well, if I do it on this level, is that gonna take me away from being able to do it as a writer, as an artist? You see, this is one thing that I noticed about the internet though. The internet gave shit layers. You haven't seen the way that this shit works. It's like, they got this show, right? Where artists be in their neighborhood or just on the spot, where they just drop a microphone down and they'll rap a verse or perform a whole song. Yeah. And then they'll go to this other show, where they can break down the lyrics. Man, by line, by line. Then you can go do Tiny Desk, where you can just perform this same song where you saw a raw version. The same song where you just broke down the lyrics. Now they wanna see you perform it on Tiny Desk. Then they wanna see you perform it at the award show. Then they wanna see you do the remix and do a whole another video and add Lito to the second verse. Then they wanna see the techno version and the TikTok got another version and then Instagram got a, it's like this shit ain't just a song no more. It's never too much. It's what have you done for me lately? Right. You gotta keep on pounding inside the head and whatnot. And one thing about doing interviews and exposing yourself and whatnot, it's some people that hadn't heard your music but they'll see you on an interview and like, man, I like Lito. You know what, I'm gonna go fuck with his music. This is the digital age. Mm-hmm. Motherfuckers have a TikTok of your voice, of a line from your song. No idea what this song is. No idea that it's your song. Then made 12 videos in your tradition. This sound alone of your voice then got 220 million likes this last week. They don't even need the whole song no more. They will take three seconds of you saying, nah, I'm Gucci. And that shit is the trend. Bitches be tripping. It's, you out of there. Good. But I mean, for sure that's what's going on as to where it is. But like, man as an artist, it almost like there's a part of me that almost feels like those processes kind of dull or I don't know how to describe it. It kind of dulls out some of the. You're a purist. Yeah, I was gonna say the pure value of it. My goal as an artist is to be the breaking point. I don't want to, I don't have to be the number one. I don't have to be the best. But when the conversation comes up in my field, I want to be the nigga that changed the conversation. When they be like, oh, such and such was a great comedian. Oh, he wasn't fucking with Bernie Mac though. But y'all ain't, but Carlos Miller, shut your ass up. That's all I'm, that's what I'm aiming for. I want to be the motherfucking shit in the conversation. I want to be the breaking point that make everybody start arguing. Use a motherfucking lap, they ain't fucking with Carlos. Yeah, I can dig that. I think like how we was talking about how music is consumed, how like, how things stick. You know what I'm saying? Maybe three seconds, it might be a clip, maybe a sound, but I feel like there's just different things, different ways to go with the music. And when I kind of set aside the idea of making my music programmable and wanting to make music to be felt, it's like, I just don't care about the trendiness of it. The passion tree. Right, I'm like, I make a lot of niggas out here cooning on these interviews and shit. I look at it and it's like they preserving it. Wearing a mask is wearing a mask. And I mean, some of it is environmental. Some of it is, we've done what we've seen. Like I said, I'm in a space where I'm like, oh shit, how do I make this work for me? Like I see, like I said, I want one of those. What I gotta do to get the, you know, and a lot of times you can lose yourself. You can look, like really all you gotta do is, like you said, like be the shit. Make it, bring something new to the table, like innovation or whatever. But a lot of times it's like, oh, he got on some tough ass shit, so I gotta be tougher. I gotta take it, man, they had five guns in the video. Bring some more guns of, I mean, for example, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, where it's kind of, and that's one example or whatever it is. And it's like, man, you'll lose yourself. Like you'll lose the purity of it. Like, yeah. But I- If you play with these niggas, man, that's what we say. You wanna know what we say on the rest of this video? Go to that. 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