 So we had a run on from Hortonworks, and it was really good because I tell you I walk away from that conversation And I got to say for the folks out there. There really isn't a war going on in Apache There isn't an Apache there isn't I mean there isn't but we'll be honest like in the developer community We are friends. We're working together. We want to achieve War it's all kumbaya. We're understand the rising tide floats all boats are all playing nice in the sandbox It's just a competitive landscape in Hortonworks in the business. Yeah business We're trying to be friendly as friendly as we can I mean they're they're hyping it up, but that he was like he was cool. It's like, hey, you know, we know each other Yes, we all know each other and we're just gonna offer free. Yes charge of support and so are they and that's okay And they got other things going on. Yes, but he brought up the question. He said they're they're launching a management console So I said plunders got a significant lead He kind of didn't really answer the question. So the question is that's your core bread and butter That's sure. Yes, and no. Yes, and no I mean if you look at if you look at cloudera enterprise and I mentioned this earlier when we talked in the morning It has two main things in its cloudera enterprise has the management suite But it also has the the the support and maintenance that we provide to our customers and all the experience that we have in our Yes And I want to stress the point that the fact that I built a sports car Doesn't mean that I'm good at running that's for so the driver of the car Usually is much better at driving the car than the guy who built the car, right? So, yes, we have many people on stuff that are helping build a dude But we have many more people on stuff that helped one had to at large scale at at financial in this financial Industry retail industry telecom industry media industry Health industry etc. Etc. So that's very very important for our customer all that experience that we bring in on how to run the System effectively within these verticals, but their strategy is clear We're going to create an open-source project within Apache for a management console. Yes, and we sell support to yes So there'll be a free alternative to Management so we have to see about I mean we look at the product I mean our product come down a product differentiation our product has been in the market for two years So they just start the building there So it's just alpha their product out in alpha right now. Yeah, okay. Well the Apache product. Yeah Yeah, that patchy project is out there So we'll see how does it compare to ours? But I think ours is way way ahead of anything else out there. Yeah