 Welcome to the ITU studio at the World's Telecommunication Development Conference here in Kigali, Rwanda where I got the great honour of being joined in the studio today by the Honourable Toy Lupe Pomudunuku Odessema who is the Minister for Communications and Information Technology for Samoa. Minister, welcome to the studio. Thank you very much your Excellency Max, thanks for the opportunity to be interviewed here in this session in this event, the WTDC 22 Kigali and I'm very fortunate, very fortunate as a Pacific Island representative of a small island state, Samoa. So thanks for inviting. Now I know that it's quite an arduous and lengthy journey to get here from Samoa so I wanted to ask you, why is WTDC important? Why did you take the time to be here today? Well, Max, to be honest, our new government just came into power last year, in the middle of last year. So this is a good introduction, a good learning curve. Let's start learning where we're in the industry and where we're heading, what's the future like for us and where can we put our priorities as a nation, as a country. So coming all the way here we have a delegation of six members. One attended last week at the youth session, which is a good learning curve for everyone. And what are some of the key outcomes that you hope will come from WTDC? There's a lot I'm trying to work out in which sequence where I start. But last week we were at the WISIS at which preparation for coming here to WTDC. One of the key things that it's a global community. Everyone, even this industry, because I was at the transport industry, now coming to the communication and IT industry, we're all working together towards a common goal. No one is left behind, everyone to be connected and so forth. And to have, you know, even the islands, you know, development, growth, economy, so everyone will enjoy life. So I guess it's one of the things that we're here. We're happy to be involved in the planning of what's to come in industry. So also got a chance to, we were at the launching of the partner to connect, which is obviously a good platform for growth, but also to share ideas we learn from the experts of the industries and so forth. So it's a good investment. Our government has put forth to send a delegation here, but also it's good for me personally in terms of learning. Absolutely. And just I was going to say, what are the next steps, what's the future look like for Sumo in terms of telecommunications? From Sumo's perspective, the best example is at home at the moment. We're considering all options. What that means is, no ideas is the wrong ideas. You know, before when the capers and the fighters entered the arena of telecommunication, everyone thought it's the way to go. But the experience from Tonga and even in our neighboring island, American Samoa, at which the cable was cut, the disaster hits, we all went back to satellites. So right now in Sumo, we're reinstalling the satellites as a redundancy plan for fiber cables. So as a Sumo, we're considering all opportunities, technology in the infrastructure. Make sure we have a proper infrastructure that will leverage and facilitate economy growth. But also we're looking at improvement in terms of capacity building, right from the school level up to the experts of the industry. So having a proper and a good infrastructure to assist in our economy, but also having the expertise in giving capacity building and training and so forth, part of the food partnership. But also having the right technology that will facilitate and take us to reach our goals. So Sumo, we'll commit not only from the policy side, but also from the operational side of things, yes. Well Minister, we're going to look for you on December. Thank you so much indeed for joining us here in the studio. And I hope we'll catch up with you again very soon, perhaps in Sumo. Thank you Max. Okay, thanks very much indeed.