 in us, we see that he produces life. He is life itself and gives life to whoever who is around him or with him or connected to him. We are one with Christ, we are one with the Lord and the Holy Spirit, we are one spirit with the Lord. That is why we are partakers of the divine nature through these precious promises that have been given to us. So we can expect God's Spirit to produce life in us, to breathe life in us, to all those areas in our lives where we feel that there is figuratively speaking, we feel that it is dead. There is nothing moving, there is nothing happening, it seems to have come to a standstill, maybe areas in our life, maybe it is some task, some assignment, something to do with a family member, a relationship with a family member or someone else. And we feel that it has come to a standstill, it is not moving. But what scripture says that he who dwells in us, the Spirit of God who dwells in us, produces life, will give life to your mortal bodies. And it also implies that for our mortal body, our physical body, it has its limitations. But the Spirit of God who dwells in us, he produces life, whatever the limitations are, the weaknesses are, he causes us to overcome that because he brings in his supernatural, zoe, God kind of life in our spirit. So this morning as we pray, we can pray that we will experience this zoe, God kind of life, this overcoming life, the life that gives life to our mortal bodies. So maybe experience that in our minds, maybe experience that in our bodies, in our physical senses, in our physical organs, and also emotionally as well, and also spiritually. Let's pray. Father, we thank you Lord that you dwell in us Lord. Father, we thank you that your word says that the body is dead because of sin, because the Spirit is life, because of righteousness. And Lord, we thank you that it is you who dwell in us Lord, the Holy Spirit dwells in us Lord. And Father, we thank you that the same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead is in us now, dwells in us. And the one who raised Christ from the dead is willing and able to give life to our mortal bodies. And so I just pray, Father God, right now, for those of us who are facing any kind of sicknesses or any kind of weakness in our bodies, Lord, I pray, Lord, for a fresh impartation Lord, that you would breathe life right now Lord, that your life will be experienced, that your life that flows like a mighty river, God, the life of the Holy Spirit, the presence, the manifestation of the power and the presence of the Holy Spirit, Lord. I pray that we will experience it right now in our bodies, Lord. And we also pray for our minds, Father God, we pray for our thoughts and imaginations. Yes, Lord, I pray that it will be cleansed, Lord. I pray that every negative thought or every regret or any thought of low self-esteem and any thought of any stronghold, any bondage, I just pray right now that that will be taken away, that will be washed away by the river of life. And Lord, I just pray for a freshness in our spirit. I pray that you whose life itself, Lord, that will breathe life, oh God. And I just pray for a new freshness, for a renewed strength, God, for renewed fervor and passion, Lord, to come upon us, to come within us, to be stirred up in us, Lord, by the work of your spirit. We thank you that you're doing it. We believe that you're doing it even right now, God, and we can expect to see change, Lord, in all these aspects, Father God, and we can expect to see the breakthroughs, receive breakthroughs in all these areas, Father God, let your river flow, God, let the mighty river flow, Father God, let your power be experienced, Father God, in our bodies, in our minds, in our spirit, Lord, and everything that we do, Father God, in all human, Lord, earthly relationships, in all tasks that we undertake, Lord, in all the ministry that we do, Father God, Lord, enable us to experience this power, enable us to experience the life of the Spirit. Hallelujah. We thank you, Lord. We give you all the praise and all the glory at this time. In Jesus' matchless name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Okay, so, yeah. So, Dave, I see your message that, yeah, you're able to access the, that's good. Okay, so, today, we are in discipleship in small groups. We have come to almost the end of this course, discipleship in small group, and we're going to continue with what we, the last topic that we saw in our last class about mentoring, right? We're talking about raising up other leaders, and we're talking about how we need to have a, you know, establish a relationship. We're not about forcing people, we're not controlling people, we're not manipulating people. So, in line with that, we're talking about mentoring, and we're talking about being a role model and developing others and raising them up to go even beyond, you know, where we are, right, to go even further and beyond where, you know, the level at which we administering or where we are right now. It could be, you know, in, typically, I mean, specifically, we're talking about small groups, we're talking about ministry, but it could be in any field as well, like you're mentoring someone professionally, you're mentoring someone in any other area, right? So, this is what it is, to mentor is to develop people, and we use another term, like, and that is spiritual parenting or spiritual fathering or mothering, right? Like, how the Lord Himself says, in 2 Corinthians 6 and verse 18, the verse that we saw, that the Lord says, that I will be a father to you and you will be my sons and daughters, and Paul, in his dealings with the, the, his team, with Timothy Titus, you see that he's like a father figure, and he, he is, he addresses and not only Paul, but then others who address the, the ones whom they are actually taking care of or discipling, they, they address them as, as, as children, or they have this whole picture of, of them being like a father to them, right? So, it could be, you know, we can say a father or mother, like, we see that aspect of it. So, so we also saw last class about spiritual teacher or instructor and the difference between, you know, that being an instructor and a spiritual father, right? So, one thing that we need to understand that, that the Lord, God Himself, is our example role model, okay? So, this fatherhood, as we call it, it comes from him, right? He is a source, right? Let me just share the notes. So, Ephesians 3, 14 and 15. For this reason, I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, right? So, since God's nature is to be a father, and what a father would do to his children, and we are his children, we relate to God as our heavenly Father, and we have this nature with us, in us, right? The same nature. Therefore, we see that as we build others, as we help others, the same nature of fatherhood or parenthood flows from us, right? So, this spiritual, being spiritual parents, spiritual father, spiritual mother is from the fatherhood of God, right? So, when we say, you know, spiritual father, spiritual son, spiritual daughter, we need to do it in a healthy manner. We need to do it in a manner that, you know, where people are not completely, you know, attached emotionally, that they're not free to be themselves, or they are, you know, in some kind of emotional bondage, you know, we're not talking about putting any constraints or restraints on people, right? But to allow people to grow up and to be who they've meant to be. And also, we're not saying that, you know, you need to be, you need to be subservient to me, you know, you need to honor me, you need to, you know, do all that. No. The spiritual father or the spiritual mother serves so that the person moves from immaturity to maturity, right? From ignorance to a place of understanding. And so Paul refers to Timothy, you know, you see that he says, Timothy, my dearly beloved son, right? You know, that in the natural, that it was not so, but in the spiritual, it was so, because he traveled with Timothy, and he instructed Timothy, and his whole life example was right before there, before Timothy's eyes to see and to observe and to, you know, to understand, to follow, right? So Paul writes in several places, you know, in Corinthians and then in Galatians, Thessalonians, we see that, that he refers to himself as a father, right? So when we say, okay, who is the spiritual father or mother? You know, it's not the person who just brought the gospel or shared the gospel. And because of whom we, because of whose ministry we, you know, we got saved, right? But it is someone who continues to journey with us or walk with us, right? Who brings us from immaturity to maturity. So that's the real father or mother, spiritual father or mother, right? So it could be, you know, it's not necessarily someone who just shared the gospel, it's not someone who's an authority figure in some organization, and it's not that, right? It is someone who, who raises up a person, who builds up a person and who builds us up from immaturity to maturity through their, through their instructions, teaching, through their life example, right? Through their walk with us, through their relationship with us, you know, they bring us to a place of maturity. So that's a true spiritual father or a mother. So what are some characteristics? So when we, when we look at these characteristics, we see, okay, there are, here, there are certain things that I can do, here are certain things that I should not, right? I should not be doing. So we understand that we learn this, okay? So when we look at Judges 5, we learn something about Deborah, okay? The inhabitants of, Judges 5, 79, the inhabitants of the villages seized, they seized in Israel until that I, Deborah, arose, that I arose a mother in Israel. They chose new gods, then was war in the gates, was there a shield or spear seen among 40,000 in Israel? My heart is toward the governors of Israel that offered themselves willingly among the people. Bless thee, the Lord. Okay. So we see several things here and from Deborah's example and also, you know, several others. So here are some, you know, a collection of instructions or some things that we can, truths that we can look at to see who is a true spiritual father or a mother, okay? So we see that one who is involved in the life, okay? One who is involved, okay? So what does involve mean? Involved means to be engaged, right, in the life of another person. So which, and there's a right way to be involved and the wrong way to be involved. So we, to be an integral part of the person to maybe to spend time to participate in, in their life, right, in some aspect of their life. So that means, you know, you're involved, there is communication, there is some relationship, there is time spent at all this needs to be there if we are to be a true spiritual father or mother. It's not a very, it's not a professional interaction and then you leave it at that, right? It goes beyond that, okay? So secondly, one who is able to correct rebuke discipline and guide, okay? Because if we are, if we cannot, or if we are not allowed to do that, or if we hold ourselves back from correcting or rebuking or disciplining, then we are not really being spiritual sons and daughters, okay? So a spiritual father, or even not being spiritual fathers and mothers, sorry. So a spiritual father or the mother is able to not just interact superficially, you know, it's not just hello, how are you? Did you, you know, how are things with you? You know, the weather is nice, or the weather is bad, or talk about politics, and talk about sports, or even talk about church, or that's a nice message. It goes beyond that, you know, just not talking about skills, abilities, giftings. I say, oh, that was, that was wonderful how you ministered, or that was, you know, just go below the surface, beyond the superficial, right? And to instruct the inner man, okay, whatever adjustment, alignment, correction, okay, so being able to go beyond the superficial, and it's also, there's also one who goes beyond a casual relationship to a more meaningful relationship, okay? It's, it's not just a casual thing that the person is involved in, it's much more, it's deeper, it's much more meaningful. So what they do is hold the person accountable for their conduct, for their behavior, for their growth, for their ministry, right? So a spiritual father does that, a spiritual mother does that, so they influence that person in a positive manner, right? In a positive way. So, so this, this happens, it's an ongoing thing, which happens, okay? Next we see that, this person who deals with the character more than the gifting, I think we need to understand, you know, deals with your character more than your gifting, because we know that, you know, to be Christ-like in character is very important, it's critical, because it's the character which, it's like the wine skin, we've learned that, you know, it's like, it's the character is like the wine skin which holds the anointing, so character is very important, character is what gives longevity to life and ministry. If there is no, if the character is not strong, it could, you know, it could hinder the work of ministry, right? Everything would come down, or everything would break down. If there's no character, it can, it can affect any other area, you know, it can affect the marriage, it can affect the, you know, if a person is working, the profession, it can affect, and definitely it'll affect the ministry, so character is very important. So, so here's a person, here's a spiritual father or a spiritual mother, and they are able to deal with the character more than the gifting, right? So the gifting, you know, whether it's a spiritual gifts or some natural talent or ability, it is something which is put on display, you know, it is something which is very, very visible to, to the world outside, to everyone, you know, it's visible, you can see it, you can hear about it. It is there, put on display, but the character is like the foundation, right? It is below the surface, it is, it is something that is hidden, but which is very, very necessary for the, for the building, just like how important the foundation is for the building. Character is very important, it could be hidden, but it is, it is internal, it is necessary, right? So, so someone who focuses on character, and not just talk about the gift, and not just, you know, applaud the other person, compliment the other person based on the gift, but really address the character, right? Okay. It's also one who does not mind that a spiritual son or daughter exceeds and goes beyond them, okay? So it means that they can overtake you, or just like in the natural, you know, a father or a mother normally would not feel threatened if the son or daughter, if their children are doing well, you know, maybe the father or the mother on the study till let's say 10th standard or 12th standard, and if the children are able to, you know, go beyond that and get an education, you know, maybe get into college or get into, you know, do a diploma or whatever, then the parents are, you know, extremely proud, they're very happy. Hey, my son and daughter is going beyond what I was capable of, what I did in life, right? So, so also a spiritual, a true spiritual father or mother will not be threatened, will not feel insecure when the person whom they are helping, whom they are developing, whom they are mentoring goes beyond them, like does very well. It has a better ministry maybe, has a, you know, has a wider impact and influence. Well, they are actually happy. Okay. The one of the examples that we see is, you know, in John chapter 14, right, John chapter 14 and verse 12, the Lord Jesus, you know, says this is most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in me, the works that I do, he will do, and greater works than these he will do. Okay. Now, you know, it's a mind blowing verse, you know, how can there be works that are greater than what Jesus did? But the Lord Jesus says very specifically that there will be greater works, that person who believes in me, he will do. But you see, you know, I just want us to focus on the fact that, you know, he is, he's absolutely okay with that. Right. The greater works. He's absolutely okay that a follower of the Lord Jesus, a believer of the Lord Jesus, if he's, if he goes beyond the works that he did, the greater works, in fact, that is what Jesus wants. Right. That is what Jesus wants from those who are following and who are believing. So that's the heart, true heart of any person who's a spiritual father or a mother, that the spiritual sons and daughters will, you know, will go beyond. There's no question of envying, there's no question of jealousy, like Saul had about David. There's no question at all. Whatever be the accomplishment, they are there to be happy, they are there to applaud them, recognize them and be happy about it. Right. Okay. Next one. This is one who rescues from a place of abandonment and gives spiritual home, giving you an identity, name and sonship in the house. Okay. So that's the thing. One who takes us from a place of abandonment, maybe there, you know, someone is abandoned, someone is in a very bad phase of life, like maybe financially, maybe spiritually, maybe relationally, completely broken, completely shattered, but the true spiritual father or mother is willing to take that person and bring that person home, home meaning, you know, spiritual home. So and give that person that identity that they require, the assurance that they require and that place of sonship or that adoption. Right. So the true spiritual father or mother does that. Okay. And also the true spiritual father or mother is one who sees and understands the future and trains you for it and releases you for it. Okay. So first of all, to see, okay, what is this person capable of understand the potential that is there in the person sees the future. Right. And one way is to ask God, what is the plan? What is the future? And what are the plans of God for this particular person? And what is the plan? What are the plans of God for the individual and to and to train and to fashion the person according to it rather than saying, okay, he or she needs to be just like me or he or she needs to be, you know, like this. You know, some people actually want others whom they are, you know, mentoring to be like, to be just like them, or, you know, to be, they have a certain picture and say, okay, certain image and say, okay, this person needs to be like that because I was not sometimes even the natural know parents do that. I could not do this, or I could not accomplish this, but my son and daughter, I want my son and daughter to accomplish this. Okay, so they're not mindful of the children's, you know, God's plans for their children, or the abilities of the children, the gifting of the children, what the children are interested in, and so on. So, but they just want to force them into a place because, you know, they did not accomplish certain things, but they want them and for them, it'll seem like an accomplishment because the children are accomplishing that. Okay, the very things that they could not accomplish, right? So, so which is bad, like forcing, putting them in a place where, you know, they, which they are, which they are not passionate about, which they're not gifted in. So, you know, it could be putting them in a course, on a profession, or even an area of ministry, you know, some people make the mistake of saying, okay, I've dedicated this person for the Lord, I've dedicated him or her for ministry, like some parents do that. Well, what if that the person, you know, is a God wants that person to be like Daniel or Joseph, yeah, dedicated to serve the Lord, but in a, in a completely different area, like maybe government or in administration of, of a big organization, right? Where God wants that person to be, to be a minister and to be, you know, to fulfill the plans of God. So, so a true spiritual father or mother will not force, but will, will actually discover, like, what is the potential of this person? What is this person capable of? What are God's plans? What's designs for this person? And then, you know, equip, train, and even stir up the gifts, activate, release those gifts and release the person into it or commission them at the right time. Okay. So having said all that, we need to know that there are no perfect fathers and mothers, like, especially we can make mistakes. But when we make mistakes, we just need to acknowledge that we've made a mistake and keep going because we are also works in progress. We are also prone to make mistakes. Right. So the thing is, don't be afraid to make a mistake because sometimes we, we don't want to do anything adventurous or anything out of faith because we don't want to make a mistake. But the thing is to learn from the mistake and avoid it the next time. I don't make the same mistake. Mistakes, I like this, mistakes are like knives. They either cut us or serve us depending on whether you hold them by the blade or by the handle. Okay. Now let's look at some lessons from Paul and Timothy's, you know, relationship, like a spiritual father and a spiritual son. Right. So Timothy, Timothy, Paul writes and he says, Timothy, my dearly beloved son. Okay. Grace and mercy and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord. Second Timothy chapter one verse two. Okay. So we see first of all, some things that we understand. How did Timothy come into the picture? Okay. How did Paul meet him? When we, when we, and what happened after that? So we just go take a quick look at that. And from that, we can understand that, yes, you know, these are some principles that we can, we ourselves can put to practice. Right. You know, as we are raising up others, as we are raising up spiritual sons and daughters. Okay. See, now we are using these terms, spiritual father, spiritual son and daughter just for us to understand. Okay. But in real life, in, maybe in church, in ministry, it's best not to use those things, you know, to go and say, okay, this is my spiritual son or this is my spiritual father. You know, it's, you don't have to do that. You don't have to, you know, like put a title, but actually we can just do the job. They do the, the, I mean, carry out the responsibility of a spiritual father, carry out or, or the accountability of a spiritual son, a spiritual mother, a spiritual daughter. Right. So you don't have to put those labels and I know, you know, in churches, in ministries, the, you know, it happens. Right. They say that they do that. And many times they, you know, they use it in, they do it in the flesh, you know, maybe out of pride. And, you know, they, they just want to drop those names in order to, you know, make those connections and networking, etc. Now, we don't have to do that. You and I don't have to do that. Right. We just have to carry out the responsibility. We don't have to go around saying that's, that's my spiritual son. That's my spiritual daughter. Right. Okay. So let's look at certain things that happen in Paul and Timothy's, you know, life. Okay. First of all, we see in Acts chapter 16. And that's where we read about Timothy. In this version, it's, it's slightly, it's, I think it's Old King James. So let me just read from New King James. So we're looking at Acts 16 and the verses one to three. Okay. Acts 16 verse one to three. Then he came to Derby and Lystra. And behold, a certain disciple was there named Timothy, the son of a certain Jewish woman who believed, but his father was Greek. He was well spoken of by the brethren who were, sorry, who were at Lystra and Iconium. Paul wanted to have him go with him. And he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in that region. For they all knew him, knew that his father was Greek. Excuse me. So, so Paul is just on his missionary journey. And, you know, after coming through Syria and Cilicia, this is the second missionary journey, right, from Antioch. And he's coming, he's coming along with Barnabas. And when he comes to this place, this twin cities of Derby and Lystra, and he notices a follower of the Lord, the disciple of the Lord who was there. And his name was Timothy. And he seems to have had a good testimony among the believers. And it says here that he was well spoken of by the brethren who were there. And, and, you know, I'm sure they must have been good believers or, you know, people of good reputation. But then somehow, Paul felt that this, this, this was Timothy was someone who was meant to go with him. Right. And so he, he asked him to go with him. And then he also, you know, so we, so we understand that, okay, this, there could be a divine orchestration, divine, you know, connection that God might set up in our lives. Right. And we need to be sensitive and obedient to that. Right. Sensitive in the sense, yeah. Okay. I'm aware in my spirit that this is what, you know, there's something that I need to do to be a special father, or, you know, where I come and say, I feel that, okay, I need to be accountable to this person as a speech. I need to grow. And, you know, this person, whatever, you know, life example or teachings or everything, you know, I can grow. So, so, you know, to be sensitive to that, to be aware of that, to be mindful of that, as the Lord leads. Right. The second thing is also to be obedient, you know, to be sensitive to one thing is one thing, but to, but to take that step of faith and obedience. Like Paul did, like Paul, okay, he was, he noticed Timothy and he was well-spoken off, etc. He, you know, found out obviously about his family and talks about his mother being Jewish, father being Greek and so on. But he needed to obey, he needed to take that, the next step of approaching, asking, saying, would you be interested in, you know, serving alongside? So, he did that, was obedient. Right. Then, secondly, there seemed to be a special bond in the sense, you know, he refers to himself as his own son, his beloved son. So, you know, a special relationship of friendship and almost, you know, like a father-son kind of a respect, mutual respect and honor and also closeness. Right. So, we see a special bond. We also see a special closeness and transparency. You know, when we say transparency, that means that Paul is open about his life, okay, whatever he went through, there was nothing that he would hide, like some of the difficulties, some of the good things that happened. Everything was open for, you know, as Timothy traveled along with Paul, it was open for him to see. Right. If you look at 2nd Timothy, sorry, 2nd Timothy 3, 10 and 11. So, let me, this week, okay, verse 10 and 11 says, but you have carefully followed my doctrine, okay, manner of life, purpose, faith, long suffering, love, perseverance, persecutions, afflictions. So, he lists down a few things and he says, you have carefully followed, okay, you have carefully followed what? Carefully followed my doctrine. So, my teaching, whatever I have been ministering, you have carefully followed that. You observed that, you followed that. You also carefully followed my manner of life, the way I live my life, you have seen it, you observed it, okay, so, which means his, the way he, whatever he did, his choices he made, how he responded to certain, you know, certain situations, how he responded to difficulties, how he responded to, you know, certain challenges, it was all there open for Timothy to see, right. So, manner of life, purpose, okay, what was Paul's purpose? What was his vision in life? I'm sure he would have shared it over and over again and also Timothy would have seen it. Then, what was Paul's faith? Like, when things were difficult, what was his faith? No, did he, did he just speak about faith? Did he just teach about faith and not really, you know, have faith when it really mattered? You know, all that Timothy could see, could see that he was a man of faith, you see, could see that, okay, with the difficulties and then here's this, here's this man, he's actually doing what he taught, right. Then long suffering, patience, love, perseverance, persecution, afflictions, all the difficulties, you know, it says, which happened, persecutions, afflictions, verse 11, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra, what persecutions I endured and out of them all the Lord delivered me. So, he's seeing the persecutions, the difficulties, the imprisonments, the hard, physical discomfort, all that Timothy has seen, he has observed and he has followed Paul to see that. And also, he's seen that how the Lord has delivered Paul out of all these things, out of these persecutions, out of these afflictions, whatever he endured and how the Lord delivered out of them all. So, he has seen that. So, Paul was very transparent, he didn't hold back, he didn't try to portray that he was, if he was weak, if he was imprisoned and he felt tired, well, he didn't pretend to be, not to be. So, Timothy saw it. And he also, there were in, from Paul's side, there was also specific instructions he would give to Timothy, right, which was something which was beneficial for him. Like, we see it over and over again. He would encourage him, you know, first Timothy chapter 1, and second Timothy chapter 1 verse 6, he would say, therefore I remind you to stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hand. So, there was specific instruction to Timothy to use the gift which was given to him by the, when Paul ministered through the laying on of hands. And he's encouraging him and saying verse 7, you know, God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power and of love and of sound mind. You know, several other places, first Timothy chapter 1, 1 Timothy 1 and verse 18, this charge I commit to you, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which were made over you that by them that you would wage the good warfare. So, he is giving a specific instruction. These prophecies were made, used them, these prophecies are concerning you, it is a prophecies about you. So, with that you wage the good warfare, go into battle with these prophecies, go into battle with the word of God, when things come against you, use this, use the specific words of prophecy which were declared, pronounced over you. This is what God said that you will be, this is what God said that you will become. Now, you take those and fight the good fight. So, he gave specific instruction. He also communicated encouragement, exhortation, correction. He prophesied over Timothy as well. Now, all this we are seeing to understand how Paul was like a spiritual father to Timothy. So, we are learning the same thing, which means that we in our spiritual fathering or mothering, we can also do the same thing. We can make sure that we are transparent. We can make sure that we are sensitive to God orchestrating it and bringing certain people whom God wants us to lift up, God wants us to make strong, strengthen their lives through whatever he has taught us through our life example. So, we see that. So, he was also communicating. He was speaking to Timothy, he was encouraging Timothy, was exhorting him and also at the same time he corrected. So, first Timothy chapter 6, if you can look at verse 12, we see Paul is encouraging him. He is saying, fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses. So, Paul is saying that fight the good fight of faith. Don't give up. He is encouraging him. Then, the other thing is to also bring in correction. Now, when Paul says, I remind you to stir up the gifts, he is exhorting him. He is encouraging him. He is also reminding him that God is not given as a spirit of fear. So, whatever fear that you are feeling, you are experiencing, when you want to minister these gifts, you have to discard that fear. So, he is bringing in that encouragement and also he is pointing out some things that Timothy is not doing. Pointing out something that he is not doing. So, he is saying, this is what Timothy, you need to get into this. You need to discard your fear. So far, you have not been able to do that or you have not been doing it, but this is what I want you to do. In other words, he is saying this. So, we learn that we need to, we cannot hold back correction, but we need to do it in the right way, in an honorable way. So, correction by itself is helpful. Correction by somebody is doing the wrong thing. Somebody is headed towards danger and we would correct the person. We would want the person because we do not want them, want their life to be destroyed. However, we just need to do it in an honorable manner. So, that is where we struggle. We will stop here and then we will come back and we will look at the rest.