 Thank you Thank you. Not sure why I'm thanking people Roger said he's starting the brought the broadcast the video live video Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Good day everybody you oh When we went for our honeymoon to the Park Hyatt Tokyo Oh, it is nice. It is nice. I didn't stay there. It was a little too expensive for me But I have a drink up there and thought it was yeah And you were like, oh Yeah, we spent a couple of nights there and Have a drink and and we felt like lost in translation totally It's real nice. I mean, you know What it is it feels like lost in translation, but it doesn't feel as dated as watching the movie lost in translation So yes, do you feel that the movie is dated? It looks a little old now. We just watched it last weekend Actually, yes, yeah, I haven't seen in a while. So I wouldn't know but I liked the movie a lot Maria's, you know, he's not as gray. He has fewer wrinkles Actually when we got there they were like, oh, we noticed, you know, it's your honeymoon So we'd like to to take a commemorative picture in the room if you want and you're like, oh my god, really? Yes, sure. Okay, that would be awesome And we were we got like all prepared and dressed up and we thought hey, you know, this is a luxury hotel Maybe they're gonna have some some oh, right? Yeah They come ring at the door and they're like a dude with a tiny like old Digital camera like a cannon or something like snap and they put it in a super campy Frame and we have it. We love it, but of course So yeah, anyway, I have it's almost better that way, you know It's a great way to find old old hotels I If I care, where was that palm? What was that hotel? I stayed at in Palm Springs back when my nephew was staying with it Oh, the San Giuliano. Here it is in my Wi-Fi history I blow the Zara after virus triple X Oh, I have I have your Wi-Fi network, Tom, but do you have the password? I Maybe have you changed it? Yeah, okay, then What's the new one Tom? Oh, it's one one three Because it's the third time I've changed it's one one one all right, you guys ready Yes, okay, that was a very odd ready sounding yes, but are you good? You didn't ask me I thought he just did Sorry, right. I was born ready. Yay Well, that was that didn't sound enthusiastic Thank you, thank you. Thank you Here we go What's that you want to give back some value for the value you get out of Daily Tech news show? No problem. Just had the Daily Tech news show comm slash support to find out how This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday, April 10th 2018 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane and from the old country house. I just moved in in the Finnish countryside I'm Patrick Beja also joining us our producer Roger Chang ladies and gentlemen I'm the producer Roger Chang. Yes, you are. There's no disputing those facts. Those are the facts, ma'am Yes, senator. I am producer Roger Chang Of course, we will be talking about a tiny bit about Mark Zuckerberg's appearance on Capitol Hill There is not much news being made there, but let's start with a few tech things you should know sound effect Speaking of facts LG sent out invites for its G7 announcement event for its G7 Thank you phone happening in New York City and Seoul on May 2nd I think technically in Seoul will be May 3rd Previous leaks point to a snapdragon 845 processor a notched screen and plenty of built-in AI In fact, LG's managing director said and this is Was originally in Korean, but it was translated into English We will show the convenience that we have not seen until now by concentrating the accumulated AI technology So basically super innovative stuff. I'm guessing AI Google yeah AI and snapdragon 845 Google Home and Home Mini are now on sale in India through Flipkart Google Home costs 99999 rupees or about 154 US dollars and the mini sells for 4999 rupees about 77 US dollars both come with six free months of Google Play music While Google Assistant supports Hindi Hindi support on the Google Home will roll out later this year a New report from the Pew Research Center shows that 66% of tweeted links are shared by bots rather than actual people Pew researchers made a list of 2315 of the most popular sites that it designated most popular and then analyzed 1.2 million tweets that included links to those sites over six weeks the study also found that 500 of the most active bots tweet 22% of all the links to those new sites The researchers did say they didn't detect a notable political bias in those bots though Yeah, most of the email it gets spam even still so I'm talking to machines Yeah Walmart is partnering with Postmates to fulfill and deliver grocery orders starting in Charlotte, North Carolina and expanding nationwide in the coming months last month if you remember Walmart announced plans to expand grocery delivery business for online orders to 800 stores by the end of 2018 and at the time said it would use Uber and Deliv as well as Other partners to provide transportation Postbates now one of those other partners minimum purchases must be 30 bucks And that doesn't include a $10 delivery fee if you want to use the Postmates feature It's not man She says from experience Let's talk a little more about Facebook beyond Capitol Hill, there's another announcement, right? Absolutely Tom Facebook launched a data abuse bounty program Tuesday interesting payouts range from $500 to $40,000 US dollars Facebook bug Facebook's bug and data abuse bounty team will check that Facebook Isn't already aware of the issue that it involves 10,000 or more Facebook users and shows data abuse not just collection Mark Zuckerberg's testimony is To the US Senate is underway as we're recording this Yeah, and I'll be honest most of it is about how much technology Knowledge does that senator have and how well is Mark Zuckerberg handling these questions? There hasn't been a lot of actual news made in this testimony Nothing you didn't already know if you listen to the show regularly However, Patrick you did predict after one of his comments headlines that have now been written Yeah, that was an interesting one. The comment was about a senator was asking Are you Recent comments from Cherry Samberg Imply that people would need to pay in order to not have their data their private data used and so that Made it to that made it into a whole kerfuffle and then Zuckerberg said well There will always be a free version of Facebook or something to that effect and so obviously immediately everyone thought That means that somebody that might be another Facebook that is not free that you could pay to move Yes, right, right and I was saying this have jokingly and apparently the entire tech press is Also having that thought the quote was there will always be a version of Facebook that is free and as soon as they said version Patrick sees done that and the headline right now on the verge.com is Mark Zuckerberg isn't ruling out a paid version of Facebook, but you know, I'd pay for it I'd pay for it to not use my mind to read right pay to get rid of the ads Sure. Yeah, but it's more it's even more than that It's it's for them not to use my private data and how much money per year. Are they making on me? You know, it's probably not an ink It's a lot of money, but it's not the amount of money that it maybe Would be comfortable with paying maybe, you know, 10 20 bucks. I don't use Facebook a lot But in general I might well paying to get rid of ads is paying to protect your privacy Because the only reason they need your private data is to get the ads now if I said but pay to get rid of it But we still collect the data on you. I'd be less okay with that I mean, there's more private daytime Facebook than on YouTube for Maybe that's a good question whether that's actually true or not The W3C and Fido Alliance announced web auth N a password-free open standard supported by the latest versions of Firefox and Coming in future versions of Chrome and Edge web often replaces passwords with more secure login methods like biometrics Or more frequently use you be key type USB tokens already works with major services like Google and Facebook Where you can log in with a uv key Using the Fido standard the standard is built on a zero knowledge proof So there's no single string of characters that guarantees access to an account Which means phishing attacks are harder to pull off I think it's Peggy and Victor in the usual Description of zero knowledge where Peggy goes through a secret door that she knows the magic word to but Victor Stands outside and he can tell if she went through the door, but he can't hear the word she used and so he has zero knowledge I Do they have to be named Peggy and Victor that's you what's like Bob Alice like there's a doll these This is just you know open standard stuff Hey, I mean this is this is good. I think I mean obviously a lot of people aren't gonna take advantage of it But if you want to I think it's I think it's great that this is going to be a new open-source standard But you you still need the physical item, right? So I think that that's what I mean by saying most people will not take advantage of this But if you want to I think it's you know, it's great to be built into a browser that you're using well And and maybe they will take advantage of it if it becomes widespread and they're like hey You don't have to remember passwords don't even have to use a password manager anymore. Just have the key. Yeah, true Instagram will launch a new feature called name tags Which lets users create a scannable image that other users can then scan via the Instagram stories camera to follow Accounts tech crunch notice the name tags code and Instagram's Android APK last month now has screenshots of the feature in use somebody Wrote in and and shared that so it seems to be happening You might recall that snapchat does this snapchat launch snap codes which work the same way way back in 2015 So Instagram kind of took its time Copying this particular feature Instagram is also rolling out a new feature called focus. It's a portrait mode Similar to the iPhone portrait mode that blurs the background keeping someone's face or another foreground object in focus I'm more excited about focus That I have about the name. Oh my gosh. Have you ever scanned any snap code? I like I I did it once to show someone how it worked Because they're like what you could do that like oh, yeah here check it out But I don't think I've ever done it on purpose If that is widespread as a way to follow people because I have never used that maybe we're just not young enough But if Instagram is doing it I mean, it's possible that they're doing it just to make sure that they have copied every single feature That has it's like, let's go down the list. Which one we still don't have okay Yeah Snapchat we are now taking your snap code and all right And Twitter also has this I realized but while browsing the app and I've never used it either One of the most epic trolls of the internet occurred yesterday I was one of the victims at the end of a reddit AMA on Monday Westworld executive producer and co-creator Jonathan Nolan posted a note It was several paragraphs, but among the paragraphs were this one If you guys agree we're going to post a video that lays out the plot and twists and turns of season two everything the post Racked up a thousand points, which is what he said it have to get to for them to do this He made a big deal of explaining how this was going to be beneficial for avoiding theory spoilers And how it was it was meant to to be like game of thrones where people had read the book but they guided other people with with theories and So when it hit a thousand points, they posted a video Shortly after the beginning of the video Evan Rachel Wood the actress who plays the character Dolores on westwood started playing never going to give you up by rick astley On a piano where do I start with how annoying this is? The rick astley rick roll is quite old Uh, you know, I guess points for resurrecting it. It's been Been deceased for some time now. I thought you know with a original original playing not just showing the video Okay, you sure fine Um, you know rick astley for the record has said he doesn't think that the rick roll is very funny at all So whatever I thought I heard him say he supported it Well, I mean, maybe he's changed his tune a few years a few years after it, you know When it was very prevalent he was sort of like, I don't get it. You know, I don't I don't understand Well, I am I the butt of the joke here The song is on uh, vivo on youtube. So he gets royalties. I'm sure for every time it's played I'm guessing So he probably is okay with it So you are among the I'm not okay with this. Uh, I am I'm on the fence We talked about it on cord killers more as a would you want to know because it was before it hit a thousand points But we didn't suspect only brice our producer on cord killers suspected at all that maybe it wasn't true Uh, patrick is this unethical should they have not done this? Uh, you know what it's business and we're talking about it So they succeeded. All right fair enough. You win this round west I thought it was like very obvious at the end of season one. What season two is going to be about I could argue with you. I want you to think well, all right. Well, are you in the push out? Um, google announced an update to its cloud To its cloud speech to text api google promises a 54 Reduction in word errors overall Developers can now choose between four machine learning models short queries phone calls videos and a default for all other scenarios Google also is updating its punctuation model for transcripts audio transcript transcripts cost 0.006 dollars per 15 seconds Uh, though on may 31st the cost of video transcript goes up to 0.0 12 dollars per 15 seconds So little bit six tenths of a of a cent per 15 seconds and 1.2 cents per 15 seconds There would be another way of saying those fees. I don't know the fees are the most important part of the story though It's it's no, you know Transcripts might get readable with automatic translation or and and the thing is What's striking is how good they are getting? um, both speech to text and actually uh, uh text to speech um Sorry, I mean, yeah for speech to text. I've recently become a father and uh, my child is prone to Not sleeping and so I often watch youtube videos Up with very low sound because I don't want to wake up the baby When he finally falls asleep. Um, and you know, I've activated automatic Transcripting of the audio and it's incredibly good. I remember it from a few years ago And I was using it as a joke and it would mumble everything and it's It's all of those incremental improvements that are making it like do you even need People to transcribe the thing. It's it's so good The the actually the punctuation is not great, but it's so good that you understand way enough To not really need a transcribe A person transcribing it go go check it out on youtube. I'm guessing the models are similar And it's progressing at a rate that is Surprising and we're not paying attention to so I think that's notable I wonder uh, if there are people who rely on Transcripts uh for accessibility who feel the same way. Do you are you as excited about this because there's no denying that you're right? Patrick it is improving quite a bit Uh, I it's it's always a different experience if you rely on it day to day as you're sort of starting to realize right? In in in watching it with with the sound low So that you don't wake the baby. So I'm curious what other people's experience is as well Folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines You can get it on the amazon echo google home anchor app and of course there's a podcast at daily tech headlines dot com The swedes They don't they don't like the cash god. Love them or do they or do they? The idea of a cashless society is often tossed around on the internet Has been since the use net days in most places. It's still pretty theoretical, right? You can see the outlines of it with credit cards and and mobile payments But sweden is one of the countries that it's actually getting close To actually having just to decide if it should get rid of cash Uh, bbc recently checked in on sweden's movement towards becoming a cashless society They note that none of the high street banks Around stock homes odin plan square handle cash. These are banks not not retail outlets not restaurants banks No cash. In fact cash is only handled at seven of 118 scb banks in sweden Since 2010 cash transactions in retail shops in sweden have dropped from around 40 percent to 15 percent according to the swedish central bank and 85 percent of swedes 16 to 74 year old years old bank online uh, so Patrick, I know you're not in sweden. You're in finland But you're in the gen you're closer you're way closer than the rest of us Why not just get rid of cash? Is there is there a resistance to this? Is there a reason not to I mean I'm sure there are reasons not to and actually we're going to go into those I can talk about my experience um In france, we're not quite there yet. Uh, I think we're probably a little bit closer to what's happening in the us but we're inching closer to a Situation where you don't necessarily need cash all the time, especially with the contactless credit card payment, which is activated for small amounts That was the thing that you would use cash for the, you know, most of the time in finland. However um, you really use your card for everything all the time like I I Don't carry cash with me at all anymore when I first started living here a good portion of the time I I used to feel In danger if I didn't have cash on me, you know, what if I need to do this? But over the last few months, I've learned that um, I really don't need to and it's great It's actually a great experience Of course, once the grid goes down and you know robots decide to take over it's going to be a problem Maybe cash wouldn't help us all that much there. Um, but yeah, I I really have a great experience And I didn't think it would be that good, you know cash Contactless payments with credit cards. I thought yeah security all of this But the convenience is completely taking over My concerns for it now Why would you not want to get rid of cash? I think most people Agree that it's probably okay to go that direct direction But there are concerns for people who aren't used to Using all of those services like internet banking and Who just don't know how these things work you're talking about the elderly or maybe someone who is disenfranchised and Doesn't have a bank account. How do you deal with that if you don't have a bank account? so but but I don't know if that means that we shouldn't Move forward with cash less On the other hand, it seems like it's just a convenience. Do you guys You know use cash regularity and would want to use cash. I mean, I am I personally am part of the band cash movement This is something I'm coining myself. I don't know if there is one. I hate cash It's dirty. It's heavy in my wallet. I hate it. I never want to use cash again. However, look at like a rich person Totally I know if only I was Well, it's only heavy heavy if you have coins, you know, so I just Banks notes aren't that heavy But I just having cash like I just I wish everything was was all card Transactional internet stuff. However, my favorite cheeseburger place down on the corner only takes cash So, you know, if I wanted cheeseburger, I still have to cash There are reasons that, uh, you know businesses individuals prefer cash. Some of it is, you know, you know Underground stuff but but often it's not that it's more of just like it's tangible currency That that for whatever reason whatever your situation is makes you comfortable One of the things that's most weirdest to me about the story is okay So if I'm in stock home, I go to one of the banks where I am a member And I've got a bunch of cash They're just gonna be like No, but you don't you don't I mean in these situations. Yes, some people still use cash. It happens, but honestly, most people do not Use it here What if you have real cash that you're like, I would like to deposit this into my account? Yeah, what if you have gold bricks, what do you do with those right now? They're not very common to find a specialty place that can handle it. So so this is my argument Roger, you're all you're all crackly. Sorry. Am I all crackly? Yeah That's well I think you might need to unplug and re-plug Uh, I will I was good. So is it really bad? I'm yeah, it's kind of bad Hey use the google uh text to speech api and type it. Uh, yeah, tell me tell me in slack and I'll pass it along Am I still crack? We'll do our best to run. No, you're not crackly. Go ahead. Say it quick Real quick before it goes crackly I actually take out cash every two weeks because I am a big believer in cash One is the privacy notion. You can't track where cash has been used unless you mark it with a die or something two As a as a as a son of a of a restaurant tour who uses credit cards at different payments There's a fee for every transaction You you you do over a credit card that's charged to the business if it's done in cash He doesn't have to pay the two three percent on top of the the the fee, you know for the bill um for It can be seen as kind of regressive for the indigent or the poor who like uh as patrick was mentioning Maybe not and I have access to Uh a good banking might not have access to good technology It might be using a five-year-old phone that has a crappy nfc chip and everyone's upgraded. It's like well Now I got to go buy a new phone. Hold on though because impessa in kenya Does exactly that uses crappy old phones to allow you to pay with mobile without having no cash So there's solutions to most of these problems. It's just that you live in a society that hasn't solved those problems But let me finish this leads into my my my final point in that for some people This seems as too much over control from the government on how you spend and use money, especially when you are Not well, that depends bitcoin isn't accepted everywhere, right? It's easy to say bitcoin But if not every store you go to and this is the reason why cash is key a society That accepts it, right? So if if the government says just because we're in a backward society doesn't mean this isn't achievable Well, no, I'm not saying but you know if you're gonna want if you want to use fictional like fantasy world of everyone's on bitcoin Sweden fictional does everything in sweden use bitcoin and patrick my question You know just sweden does there a problem with the government knowing how you're spending everything since everything is not using cash No, I mean I understand all of those points And I think tom was saying bitcoin maybe in the future could be a system that could be I see that but it's not currently and And I well, I mean Okay, listen roger you're being we understand this is not already happening now in the perfect way I think all of those concerns for most people maybe not for you will go away once you start using these systems because it's just convenient and I I was against using Those systems because I thought it was insecure But the convenience won me over and ultimately I think that is well what will convince maybe not you roger But a lot of I I mean ultimately this is really dependent on the trust level in society of that Whatever, you know country or region you live in if there's very low trust in the government financial system This may will not work in sweden. There's a high level of trust in the of the I don't know Kenya is farther along with it being cashless than the us and there is less trust there in general in the financial How do you know I mean would you would you based on what I would say that there probably is a higher level of trust in All right. I'm just saying that I think there's a there's a reaction that Some people may not like because they feel that they don't have that level of control Some people. Yes, some people but everyone's using facebook Um, I think there's concerns there I think we're we're really talking about the critical mass Taking over and in the case of um in the case of cashless society The critical mass will not necessarily be concerned about Those valid points you're putting forward Well, and and sweden is the the interesting thing about this is roger is making great points about why people are still using cash in the united states of america But apparently in sweden these aren't problems the problems in sweden according to the bbc article that we're relying on for our conversation today Is now we've touched on you know technology which roger touched on that's a good point But also security people not trusting Uh giving their card to an unfamiliar merchant whereas with cash, you know, you could there's a there's less Need for trust and you did mention trust roger fraud and data protection in general is another issue once you give cash, it's hard to reverse that transaction and uh The the head of the swedish national bank himself has said, you know risk of crisis or war So those are the legitimate, uh objections based on the people actually living in a society that is mostly cashless Uh about hold on maybe it's great to be cashless most of the time But a cfo poll earlier this month suggested that seven out of ten Swedes still want the option to be able to pay with cash in the future So even in a society that is actually practicing mostly cashless people are Still hesitant to give it up hesitant to give it up completely maybe Uh, but it's also it's still very early in the process I would say fiat currency isn't necessarily going to be doing super well in the context of the specific crisis So of or war there can be other issues there As well, maybe not as severe as completely cashless And I would like to point out that even those that are cautioning against the cashless society are saying well We probably should take our time and not move too fast. They're not saying we should never do it Yeah Well, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit you can submit stories of vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and facebook.com Slash groups slash daily tech news show Let's check in with chris christensen with a way to lower your car rental fees Maybe they're high Maybe they could be lower and this happens after you've already booked This is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute I talked to you about three months ago about a resource tingo.com where you can book a hotel room And if the price goes down they will rebook that room and save you money I found another resource this week and a friend of mine has used it and worked for her for rental cars That does the same thing. It's called auto slash dot com And so if you book a rental car through this site and they find a coupon or they find a different price They will rebook the rental car and save you money auto slash dot com And this is chris christensen from amateur traveler Ah, you know, I've for some reason I'd be much more likely to do that Uh than to do the hotel. I don't know why Thank you chris. Let's check the mail bag sarah. What do we have? Let's do it. Uh, David, uh, send us an email and he had a lot of great points But for time and brevity we'll just uh touch on uh one about facebook because it's very timely says There seems to be a piling on effect going on with facebook I see this without the things companies movies tv shows I'm not saying facebook doesn't deserve some of the criticism it's getting But there doesn't seem to be a cool kids hate facebook So i'm gonna hate facebook thing going on there does rather maybe that's more to do with the age We live in where you only love or hate a thing. There's no real Middle ground anymore if you dare to try to be in the middle you get disowned by both sides yeah, um I've been thinking lately that just because It's a witch hunt Doesn't mean the person being accused of a witch isn't a jerk Right? You're not to like the person to say, you know, they're not a witch Then they may be awful in a lot of ways, but they really shouldn't be burned at the stake Or hung as actually happened at the Salem witch trials, uh, but you know, I mean this is This is taking on the aspects of we're going to assign everything we hate about the world to facebook Whether they're actually responsible for it or not Which is like one of the things that's worse about the worst thing about facebook to me is Folks who have extreme, uh, you know views of of all sorts of things that they post on facebook But then to be about facebook itself is kind of Inception version of this whole thing. It's like, yeah, I mean I I I I do hear a lot about like, ah facebook, you know What a what a terrible company, but it's like well, but okay, they explained to me why you feel that way And you know, I think that there is a piling on that happens where it's like It's cool to hate facebook. I'm not saying that people who deleted their facebook accounts are, you know, Trying to be trendy not at all, but I do think that there is a lot of that that goes on I will also say, uh, there's a lot of people who are applauding the steps that facebook is taking, uh They're applauding them now a lot of you know, pre-emptive deletion and and barring people from using facebook stuff like that That they would not have wanted to see happen a few years ago They would have called, you know The issues of free speech and controlling the the the message and the things that people see So I think it's running its course the way it it had to in order to correct course Over the life of the the product and technology and we're not saying facebook is innocent of everything by saying this This this is the thing when I say like they don't have to They don't have to be a nice person to be defended from a witcher like they Wait, I thought they were jerk. Oh, right. They are jerk. You could be a jerk and not be a witch Uh, we're not saying facebook doesn't do things that are wrong and we're not saying they shouldn't make a lot of these fixes I'm glad that they're finally getting around to doing a lot of these things Uh, it just you know, they're be be angry at them for the right reasons. I know you're welcome for gdpr Basically is Well, thank you for the email david and thank you to everybody who wrote in and also thank you to patrick beija for being on the Show we missed you buddy. Good to be back. Oh, thank you. Yes. I hope that now things are getting uh in place And that i'm going to be able to be here as uh often as I used to Excellent. Yes, uh, very happy that that things are settling in for you and the and the family Uh, and uh, if people want to find all of those things, where should they go? Well, uh, I would recommend you listen to Le Rendez-vous tech actually This time. Well, you know, there's always the filious club and stuff like that in English But if you want to listen to another tech show in french, we recently uh got into a weekly Rhythm for Le Rendez-vous tech so you can go check that out at frenchspin.fr And by all means get into our our store at daily tech news show dot com slash store We had a great brainstorming session in our analyst slack today about different products that we could add And we brought in david michael who runs the store for us and he's like all right I'm going to go through all these things figure out which ones we can do Uh, so there might be some new cool stuff showing up there in the meantime You can give mugs you can get hoodies and get all kinds of stuff and support the show at daily tech news show dot com slash store Patrick what would be the best way to say born ready en français? uh, uh, um Wow, that will not sound good N'est prêt which does not work. Okay Yeah, no, let's let's not do that. No, no, it was No, I don't know. Well, you know, no, we're always we're we're you know, we're we're always trying to figure out Maybe something to put in the store. We'll keep thinking about it The onesies onesies with born ready. I think would be would be good. Yeah, they're in there. You can buy those Yeah, so go go. Well, if you have ideas for slogans of of great detain us here that we might want to add to our store We'd love to hear them feedback at daily tech news show dot com would be the place to let us know We are also live monday through friday for 30 p.m. Eastern 20 30 utc Find out more at daily tech news show dot com slash live back tomorrow scott johnson. Talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com The timing club hopes you have enjoyed this bro I Know yeah, kind of but it's I mean the expression is No, I there there should be something else that That corresponds, but it's not, you know, exactly. Well, and nay is is when you see when someone's name Formerly was their maiden name. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, where it comes from Yeah, uh, well, I don't know. It's kind of cool Yeah, but it's And and ne also sounds for some reason like nose, which is also pronounced ne Right. It's like, wait, what are you? What are you saying? My nose is ready. Yeah, exactly. It sounds like I mean You need to have a good nose for important stories. Yeah, that's kind of good sniffing out the tech. Yeah, exactly I Good stuff. I missed you guys missed you It did I mean the um, I have to say because we were talking about the The movie a quiet place yesterday in the post show and you know eating and how it was You don't want to eat during the movie during that in the theater because it's Yeah Scares scares everybody, but I mean the the speaking of facebook the updates just keep rolling and everyone's like There was a person next to me eating and oh my gosh, I couldn't believe it. It was so rude. It's like They sell sodas and popcorn at the movie theater to eat How would anyone know not to do that before they went and saw the movie And then everyone walks out of the movie just like it was so rude that that person ate this food they bought Yeah, you got to see the movie to really understand. I know and I There's a few people who are being ridiculous about it, but it really is a weird thing Yeah When you're sitting in this movie that has been teaching you for 45 minutes that the slightest sound will kill you instantly And then someone next to you makes a big like crackle noise and it was like You know, it's weird. It's a weird situation Well, you know I keep I I don't want to see it, but Everyone says it's not really that scary. It's more of it's not about I mean there's there's some startling moments But it's it's not like a shining or it's certainly not like right or anything like that. Yeah The startling stuff is like I'm pretty good at just being like If I if I feel it's coming I just don't want to see it and then everyone else jumps and then I start watching again It's more like way that I watch those kind of movies Well, the startling stuff in in a quiet place you won't see coming. That's why it's startling So I'm never gonna. No, but now we're expecting it. So we'll be You know making Being expecting it for the whole I'm not sure that that works. I Say that but I don't just don't watch it Only listen Then it's a a nice silent meditation session, right? Yeah, unless somebody's eating properly Soft footsteps for 45 minutes Um, I'm going to But do you like band cash movement cash and out cash No, oh me Yeah for a title cashing out cash cash Yeah Who the band cash movement is spelled with a scent sign? Yes um Sweden is a contact country, uh, Sweden misspelled Doesn't Sweden only have one E. Sweden. Oh, you gotta why you gotta shame him like that He's ruthless Doesn't care about cash or anything What do you mean? I care about cash. Oh, sorry. I mean, yes, he doesn't don't misrepresent my Don't represent my reactionary position very Very anti cash. Oh, I love cash. I like Johnny cash I like Johnny cash too I hate real cash I love real cash. It's the best thing ever. Um, the burger place That I always use as an example. It's the only reason I ever get cash anymore They do have an ATM machine in the corner. So it's like, okay They understand that no one walks in with cash And then we just paid like the four dollar stupid fee to get our cash out to buy our stupid cheeseburger But you still need cash Now I want a cheeseburger So, so cash was a cash. Okay. I don't know And you know the oh, sorry You know, I just picked an attack, uh, you know the worst part sara. What? I need a title. That's the worst part. What was the what's the title ban cash movement ban cash movement. Thank you done great Um, the worst part is that in this Tiny place I live at in now like the tiny villages. They don't have burger joints Get out of there. They barely have a piece of horror movie in itself. I know they they don't have sushi Sounds like a business opportunity, uh burger joint slash sushi bar Beja burgers Beja burgers and sushi get those Born ready Born ready burgers and sushi or born ready sushi burgers Oh On that note, I shall go to bed. All right. Good night, sweet prince Good night, sweet prince. Thank you. Either go to bed or go watch the end of the riveting, uh, zucker Yeah, it's still going. That's probably the bed. Yeah, he's wearing a suit looking good All right. Bye guys. See you next week. All right. Bye magic. Bye Got a little east meets westie in there roger Oh, was that that is that the uh, yeah, I I just I disagree with you, sir Man Yes, exactly. Well, it's ironic since now I live to the the east of tom Did it used to it was did it used to be that tom was in the east bay and you were in Okay But I lived to the west of you when we started the show That's true. So what did it mean originally? Because I always made fun of just like arguments saying that they're typical Occidental point of the world view, you know view of the world Yes, roger used to shoot down my arguments when we work together at zd tv by saying, you know Well, a western human would think that or something or like it's just a very it's a very western That's a very western understanding of the problem Although if you think in terms of the us roger was always west and tom was east Until until the two nets. That's why it works in so many ways. It's like a rubik's cube. Sure, right. Yeah There's a Never getting anywhere Yeah Someday we may solve it Who knows Man that was one of the things I tried to do in junior high like solve all the sides of the rubik's cube only got to two Yeah, I had one and it was like not gonna happen. I don't know I bought the book that taught you how to solve it. So I had a book I I ended up taking a screwdriver and breaking it apart and then My rubik's cube the side all the the colors were stickers You just take off all the stickers I said to my mom like look and she was like, yeah I know my kid didn't solve anything you a little five-year-old Well, you solved it just not in the It's a diy hack. You captain kirk the problem of the kobi ashima I don't believe in the solvable rubik's cube I don't believe I don't believe another puzzle in the solvable rubik's cube So that means you've never had to face death. I don't believe in no one scenarios Man, I left my laptop with the sound on watching the zuckerberg thing upstairs and now I can hear it Still going Here a little live look in um permission has to be received from their parents Or the children Oh, we're back to the facebook messenger for kids, which has nothing to do with the cambridge analytical situation Originally intended would you support a child? online Privacy bill of rights for kids under 16 to guarantee that that information 16. So it's different. We use for any Okay goodness One day I was looking mark my words One day we're gonna have a show. Yep. Mm-hmm. That was unintentional, but we'll keep it We will have a show that does not include a facebook story someday Someday, I don't know when that day is going to be, you know, we used to say that uh about apple encryption Uh the apple encryption thing, you know, it was the same it just kind of yeah Certain stories linger They they over they they overstay their welcome Where you're like dinner party's over really want you to leave and they're like, no But there haven't been enough politicians to get their uh sound bite for their campaigns in in the middle Let's talk about facebook messenger for 15 year olds. It's not just They need to be able to string together enough of the bites to make a cohesive television ad Yeah, there was one senator. I think it was senator count well, uh, and I was talking to Big jim. I think in in our slack and And he's like these questions are horrible. I'm like she doesn't care about the answers What she wants to do is to be able to say I asked mark zuckerberg about palantir I asked mark zuckerberg about conspiracy theory To her constituents didn't really matter what he says zuckerberg. What do you think about the plastic? Uh, the plastic swirl in the pacific What will you do? The hard questions Yeah Well folks How about that Like senator marky apparently like really tried to nail him about whether he would accept gdpr legislation in the us and zuckerberg said Bullen principle, but the details matter and yeah, because they're going to be compliant with the gdpr But if it's gdpr style, that means there are differences and those differences matter. I think that's a fair It's a fair answer I don't know. I just I just feel like they're not going after the actual problem Well, I in the reason why I said he's doing okay Is that I had literally nothing has changed for me in my perception of anyone in this entire Yeah, but that's that's a win for zuckerberg like you he could only lose in this situation He's not going to improve his his image you never do in a testimony situation as long as he can maintain it the same That's he's he's winning And the senators they don't care all they care about is can I get in a zinger that'll make the sound bite that'll make the news tonight Zinger I wouldn't mind a zinger like those most of zingers. Yeah, they sell those at the grocery store That ralf's ralf's has us I see him I get tempted every once in a while to buy them, but here's the problem Uh, they only sell them in like boxes of a dozen and i'm like, well, I definitely don't want a dozen zingers Yeah, that would be too much Yeah, that's too much even one zinger really many zingers for my blood Well, yeah, I then I said as i'm saying this i'm like if they had them at the at the checkout counter I'd probably resist them then too because they're singers Yeah, no, thanks like if they had single packs, I'd be like Still a zinger. Yeah, you know, it's where the only thing I used to hanker for those hostess pies, but then I realized how much Cholesterol and sugar were in each one And with my elevated blood pressure level probably that's a good thing So the hostess pie is close to the home run pie, correct In the shape and that their hand pies. Yeah, but they're two but they're two different brands Because I used to be a big fan of the home run pie. Oh, yeah chocolate and I liked the lemon Wow Wow, okay But you don't like chocolate or lemon. Oh, no chocolate. I'm 100 on board with chocolate. Um lemon I I've grown. I've grown to love over the years. I'm okay with it now And it's definitely not one that I I always felt I I was being cheated Lemon really? Lemon's one of the best. I would have given you I would have traded Yeah I cherry was the most sought after one. No cherry. I'd rather just Oh, yeah, we could have we could have trade home run pies all day Because I would have taken all your cherries and you could have had all my lemons and Darn it. What have been really fun to be friends as children changing my ding dongs and ho hoes I did not cherry home and pie was not happening. There was um my first My first job was at fiesta market in sabastopol and um home run pies were 25 cents I mean literally if you had a quarter you could have lunch and um It wasn't like there was no like employee discount. That was what the price was for anybody But I mean as uh, you know somebody who didn't like our Lunch break was like never really long enough for me to go home and then come back or whatever. So I ate a lot of home run pies Mostly chocolate or lemon never cherry way into the chocolate ones. I totally agree with you Chocolate ones. Oh, so good. Let's chocolate ones were weird. That's like putting in a pie Yeah, why would you do they were they were unique to great tastes tastes great together Just a bad combo All right, we shall now second. Bye to the video live stream Thank you Support your local corner store