 We came here today to find out more about the, yeah, it's just the general trends for red because Caltang is now a pilot demonstration province and there's a lot of projects happening and because we work with communities of course we're interested in the interface between red and communities and how the benefits blow down. So a lot to learn and I'm very happy to be here. Coruscita red, I think at the moment it's suffering, it's suffering from some bad decision-making at the provincial or district level say. I think there's still lack of buy-in and participation at the district level, which is really crucial. It's not enough for national level to make announcements or proclamations if the district isn't really willing to surrender land or surrender forest area. So I think these things have to be ironed out obviously as a matter of priority before we can really hope for an optimistic future for red.