 I hear the weather is beautiful out there in the southwest. We've been in consecutive days without even a trace of rain since January 5th. That may not sound good to everybody out there, so it sounds good back here. You bet. Mr. President, when did you first know Barry Goldwater? I believe it was 1948 or 49 that I met him. I was introduced to him. I was president of the Screen Actors Guild at the time and George Murphy was a long time good friend introduced us, but I didn't really get to know him. Arizona, as you know, became kind of a second home. Nancy's parents lived there and we were regular visitors and there I met him many times at social gatherings and so forth when we were over there and got to know him. When you got to know him initially, really got to know him, have your impressions changed any from them to now? No. As a matter of fact, I caused a stir among some of our mutual friends over there at a gathering one night before 1964 when I said that I thought he ought to be the candidate for president and nothing had been said about anything of that kind at the time. But no, let me tell you some of the things that I knew about him and the 64 campaign with all the rigors of campaigning and all of that, he walked out of the schedule at one point to call on a lady who was terminally ill and he just said that he felt that she'd like to know someone cared and canceled campaigning to do that. I remember during the Vietnam War days when soldiers would come in and not be able to get on airplanes to go on to their home on leaves or something, but they would direct them over to a hangar on the other side of the airport where there was a fellow with an airplane and it was Barry Goldwater and he would fly them to that day after day and he's the same Barry Goldwater. Has a senator had any great influence on this country? Oh, yes, yes, and a very great influence that was the thing that must have been heartbreaking for him and a terrible thing, the 1964 campaign when our party divided so greatly and he made that long walk pretty much alone, but I think what has happened to the conservative party, I call it party, conservative movement, which is largely the bulk of the Republican Party, couldn't have happened if he hadn't done what he did. That was the thing that finally brought a kind of a dignity and a respectability and a determination and particularly to a great many young people at that time and much of what has happened since, including myself being here, wouldn't have happened had he not done that. What influence does the senator have in your opinion on a close vote in the Senate? Oh, I'm quite sure there are a number who look to him for some guidance on voting. Could you detail some of your personal dealings with the senator? Oh, well, I don't know just how you mean that. We have, as I say, we've had certainly a friendly and a social relationship. I got to know him very much during that campaign time because I was one of the two co-chairmen for him in the primary in California and I'd only been a Republican two years at that time, but we, he is a good friend, he's a lot of fun to be with and you certainly never have to wonder where he stands. You find that out. There have been times when Senator Goldwater has taken a stance opposite of yours. What does that do to you? Well, I don't think there's going to be any time in the world of politics in which everyone is going to agree with someone else 100 percent of the time and when he does it's something that he believes and believes in and we talk about it and sometimes I've been able to convince him and sometimes not, but there isn't anything personal in it. It's just part of the game and we take our stands, but it doesn't affect our personal relationship in any way and there's no grudge at either end of the street. Is Senator Barry Goldwater a predictable man? That is the last word that I would pick to describe him unless you take it in the area of knowing that someone will always do what he honestly believes is right. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you. Space needed for a minute while they take one shot from across the road, just for a wide shot, and then a silent wide shot, and then there will be some sort of a cutaway, I think they call it, a cutaway. You know, many people have forgotten that in the 1960 Republican Convention, some of the conservatives who discovered Barry and all, they were rising up and kind of really threatening a little bit the party unity and all, and Barry took the floor and I've never forgotten one of his lines. He said, conservatives, it's time to grow up, and he made an outstanding pitch for the course the convention was going, which was not, for him, he did not at that time have any idea or intention of doing that, and they were, this would have been a disruptive influence, and he really stood up there without notes or preparation and talked them back into line. Well, I've had the pleasure of being acquainted with him ever since he was on the Phoenix City Council, when I went to Phoenix in 46. Gee, I left out a lot of things there too. I left out how he probably was the single most responsible reason for the National Guard being integrated in Phoenix, which it had not been. His store and his employees, and he did all that. I'll never forget one's campaigning for him in the primary in California on a campus doing Q and A with the students and a black student suddenly stepped forward and yelled a question at me, and it was, you know, what about civil rights and so forth, and a very goldwater and so forth? And I had the pleasure of telling them about this, well then limply said something, it was when those kids had been killed down in Louisiana, he yelled something about that, and I shouldn't.