 Good afternoon, everybody. Pastor David, good afternoon. Hey, John. Welcome, everybody, to Unfiltered. You know, recently this topic has come up and I'm just a little interested in this because the Jesus movement, a movie came out and it's getting, I mean, it's people are, from our church are seeing it and enjoying it. There's been some good comments on it and it seems like it's really opening the door for people to get some type of glimpse on the Jesus movement. But I wanted to ask, because it seems like there's a lot of younger people that are seeing it or watching it. Do you believe that this movie was intended for the young people only? No, no. Of course not. The Jesus movement is something that, or just Jesus is somebody that obviously is for every person, no matter what age or ethnicity or etc., etc., etc. No. So the movie I think is an interesting approach and an attempt to kind of like give to people a glimpse into how the Lord in the past has moved and gives to us an insight into, in Greg Laurie's particular involvement in it and his perspective of it and things like that. So no, this movie is not made just for a certain age group. It's obviously a movie that is intended for everybody. I don't think that it was intended to be a documentary. I think what it is is an encapsulation of certain memories that people from that particular experience and that time, it's an encapsulation of what they remember and how their perspective on that is being presented on the screen. And so there are those who think that it's for a certain age group, a genre. And in fact, there was one young man who said he's from this particular generation. I think he calls himself a Gen Z who really doesn't feel that people should have any critical remarks about anything that relates to the way the Holy Spirit moves amongst his generation because after all, we're too old and almost dead. And therefore we have no perspective. And I think that's extremely short-sighted and really indicative of a very immature mind and spiritually immature individual. Nowhere in the Bible does it ever say that the youth shall lead the elders and that they're going to be entrusted with that without any elders' responsibility of transmitting truth and helping to form their faith, etc. I mean, that's what older people are intended to do. So from that perspective, I believe that the movie is intended to give a certain sense of the time and with a hope that a new generation will arise to experience the depth and the joy of what made up the actual revival called the Jesus movement. I'll tell you there are two things, John, that were the heart and soul of it is the power of the Word of God and the power of the Holy Spirit. And Pastor Chuck Smith was used mightily by God in the lives of many young people, myself included. I was 20 years old, actually 19, the first time I entered into the Calvary Chapel, that small chapel that used to have so long ago. I was 19. I was there for a few months and then I had to go into the military and I served my country for a couple of years and wasn't there at that time when they moved into the tent. I came home on leave and I went to the tent where they had a lot of worship in the Word of God and all, but I wasn't able to partake in that for quite a while. So I think that what we need to be aware of is the heart of the Jesus movement and I haven't seen the movie, but I will tell you this, the heart of the Jesus movement was never Chuck Smith. The heart of the Jesus movement wasn't a young man named Lonnie Frisbee and it isn't any young man like Greg was at that time or or Don McClure or Mike McIntosh or so many others who were there from the beginning. The heart of the Jesus movement was never a man, it was never a woman. It was Jesus and Chuck had a burden that was given to him for the hippies. Kay, his wife, was the one who would weep and pray for them. And Chuck would tell us this, and I've heard him say it many times, that he actually had an adverse reaction to these hippies because they needed to cut the hair and they needed to take a bath and they needed to put on shoes. And he speaks about those hippies, including me, because I was part of that group. And I still remember the story of the hippies who put their toes in the communion cup holders and it made me remember that that happened to me because I didn't wear shoes. We were barefoot. They wanted to, at one time the elders of the church were upset because we would come in, people like me would come in barefooted and they had new carpet and they were mad because the feet would dirty up the carpet. And they complained that they saw kids who got their toes stuck in the communion cup holder. I'm not saying they were talking about me, of course I'm not, but I did get my toes stuck in that, so it made me laugh because I wouldn't wear shoes and nobody did. And so Chuck said, if a new carpet will keep people from coming, rip up the carpets, that was Chuck's real heart. Chuck was not a timid man by any means. He was not a weak man by any means. Chuck was a strong man who actually had to be broken by the Lord so that he would have a heart for this particular group of people. And so I would never portray him as weak, just wrestling and crying in all of that. Perhaps he did and all, I never heard him tell stories in that particular way, though I do know that he was broken and perhaps he did do something like that. All I know is that when I first encountered Chuck, he was 43 years old. And Lonnie Frisbee was my age, he was 20. And as a 20-year-old and a 43-year-old, God used Pastor Chuck to teach us God's Word. Chuck wasn't into emotionalism. Chuck was into the Word of God and the Spirit of God. And because of that, that's how we all got saved. And right when you started speaking that we hear music in the background. Yeah, that's interesting. That's interesting. Just, yeah, interesting. You know, now that you have a movie, not you, there's a movie that's out. And with the movie Being Out and you knowing Pastor Chuck as well as you do to see him as a father, you've mentioned that, is there anticipation on what you would like to see happen with the portrayal of this? And as you mentioned, it's not a documentary, but yet you are part of it in a lot of ways. Your relationship with Pastor Chuck was close in a lot of ways. And now that you're, I don't want to say an outsider pastor, but somebody who's been through it was a part of initially of it, is there an anticipation that you hope to see that people would really see from this movie as you were initially a part of it? You know, it's very hard for us to ever go back into the past. That doesn't happen. So I think what this movie can do is it can go along with the flow of the Spirit as the Spirit is working right now. You know, with this talk that's even being publicized as revival in Asbury and all of that, I do believe that God can use this because I know that many, including us, including this church, have prayed for a long time that God would once again pour his Spirit out. And in these latter days, I believe that that is something I've been looking for and expecting for him to do as he's going to gather us up for that moment when he takes us home. And so I feel that these are pieces that the Lord is putting together, where this dry, dry nation that has done everything that we as a nation can do to drive God out of everything, you know, and question everything about faith and the purpose of faith. And yet you're seeing that there are young people who are hungry, they have a quest for truth. And at the moment that these people are looking for truth, we've got churches that are no longer teaching real truth, but have become caught up with other things, whether it's prosperity and health, whether it's all these prophecies that they're giving, or whether it is thinking that somehow we all need to be equipped to be great voters, whatever that may be, we're going to lose the opportunity to influence people. And in doing so, I think that we can quench the Holy Spirit. And so what I learned from my pastor, and what I as a Calvary Chapel pastor of many years standing now, what I have discovered is stay true to the Word, seek the Holy Spirit, encourage people to move in the things of the Lord, and hopefully and prayerfully we'll see an awakening in the young people, because young people have been told there's no God, there's no truth, and their lives are drying up, they're hungry just like I was, just like I was. Tell me the truth so I can know what is truth and embrace it, and I think pastors need to know. Amen, amen. Well thank you pastor for giving us some insight. For me it's amazing to see that this movie is out, and I haven't seen it either, I have not gone, but to know that we have somebody here who was initially a part of it, and seen it, and so it poses, and this is for off-camera or another time, raises a lot of questions for me, like maybe I should just go see it, but I don't know about, because there's a lot of different things. Eventually we'll have it here. Yes, yes, and there'd be a great opportunity for people to invite their friends. They'll have an opportunity to share with them afterwards. Like have a Q&A or something where they would ask questions, and so that would be great, and people can bring their friends and family in here, somebody who's been through there, was a part of it, and hear the heart of it, and kind of fill in the gaps. But I hope it's a tool that it points not only the young people to Jesus Christ, but it points everybody. Well, thank you Pastor David. I want to invite you to our Sunday morning services at 8.30 and 10.45, or actually Wednesday tomorrow. You're taking us to Romans chapter 2, and it's been a rich study. It's powerful. And so come on out, come on out and invite your friends 7 p.m., and then Sunday morning, 8.30 and 10.45, as you're taking us through the Book of Mark. Amen. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor David. Thank you guys for tuning in. God bless you.