 I come from a manufacturing background. I was actually the lead of production. I managed 30 employees underneath me. And I was the highest paid hourly employee, and I wanted to get into management. And I wanted to get into management bad. But I kept on getting turned down. And every time I'd go to my second and third interview, they would say, well, you got the experience, but you need to have a degree. When I went to the college, I was able to not only get the hands-on experience through the simulations and the group work, but also the support that I received from the first day. One of the big opportunities that I was able to take advantage of was a green training workshop. And through that, I realized that I have a passion for the environment. So because of that, I'm going on actually to get into environmental science. But I had no idea before that what I would get into. And it was the guidance in the leadership that was able to lead me that way.