 Welcome, everybody. I'm so excited that you're here today. You're here for this webinar. What can Adobe Express do for your nonprofit? So you're in the right place if you want to learn how to use Adobe Express for design, social media, and publishing for your nonprofit. I'm going to go over a few housekeeping. My name is Aretha Simons. I'm a webinar producer here at TechSoup. If you need to close caption, go ahead and type on that close caption button, the CC button at the bottom of your screen. I do want to ask you, as soon as you close, I know some of you have to leave early. Since you close this webinar screen, there's going to be a survey that pops up. She's about 30 seconds to 60 seconds to complete it. I would love if you complete that webinar survey so we can know how to serve you better here at TechSoup. And we are going to send you the slides and the video replay within 48 hours. I'm going to get ready to turn this over to our guest speaker today. It is Jordan Ellis. Jordan is the customer manager here at Adobe Express. And Jordan does a lot of things as you can see. I'm sure that's not even half of her bio, but she works with nonprofits. She's been an entrepreneur for over 12 years. She helps with social media. And again, she is now the community manager at Adobe Express. So Jordan, it's welcome. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. I'm so excited to chat with everyone. I've never technically worked for a nonprofit, but I have run my own business for the past 12 years. So I understand the life of wearing a thousand hats and trying to do it all with very little money and learning everything either through YouTube or Googling or webinars like this. I'm really excited to be here chatting with you all. And if you'd like to connect, the main thing I do at Adobe is connect with our community. So I'm extremely available. If you're not watching this live and have questions later or if you are watching live and have questions that you don't think of now to put in the chat. Please feel free to connect with me anywhere online. I am at Jordan today, Alice, and all of my DMs are open. So if you have questions about Adobe or Adobe Express or social media marketing, anything I can do to help. I am very, very happy to. I talked about this a little bit already, but Adobe is here to help you with your nonprofit as much as we possibly can. I'm also curious if anyone in the chat has used Adobe products before either Adobe Express or other things like Photoshop or Illustrator. You may have noticed that in my bio it does not include a design background because I don't have one. So I haven't taken an art class since high school. I've been slowly learning things also through YouTube and just watching. Cool, Adobe Express, Adobe Creative Suite, awesome. One of the things that we know about Adobe is that it can sometimes feel intimidating, like it is definitely one of the industry standards, super great for professionals, but it can be kind of hard to get started for brand new folks to design. So Adobe Express comes in helping you all to make standout content quickly and easily for your nonprofit, and we have some new things coming up very, very soon that will make working with your team even easier. Man, there are so many Adobe pros in the chat. This is great. So Adobe Express will definitely be super straightforward for you to use. If you are familiar with the other products, but you can also use it if you've never opened anything from Adobe before. If you know about TechSoup, that's why we're here. And with your verified nonprofit account, you can receive Adobe Express premium for free, renewable every year for up to 10 users. So I'll go over all of this and show you what it means, but you'll get all of our premium features, including our templates and design assets. That is over 20,000 licensed fonts from the Adobe Fonts Library. Apparently this number is now over 600 million Adobe stock photos that you don't have to separately license storage, 10 users, all types of things, including specific nonprofit templates, which again, I will show you really soon. So today we're going to talk about building a brand identity, what to put in a brand kit, some design tips for getting noticed on social media, and best practices for how to stand out. And like I said, I'll show you how to do all of this in Adobe Express, but I like to think about how and what and why you're designing before you just get in there and start. You can just get going, but I wanted to share a few higher level design concepts that will hopefully help you create the whatever you need for your nonprofit, whether it's social media, online marketing, print marketing, website graphics, whatever you need. Hopefully this will give you some information to get started. So creating a brand can be a huge project, but it doesn't have to be. You can certainly pay like branding agencies, you know, six figures to create an entire brand kit. I think Urban Outfitters brand kit is like 60 pages long so you can do that version, or you can make a brand completely for free in like 10 minutes, which is what we're going to talk about today. And all of those things are valid. There is no right way to do this. Branding is essentially your quick and easy, or sorry, your consistent look and feel to your business so that folks recognize you when they see you out in the world, whether it's printed signs, whether it's on your social media, all the different social media accounts you may be running, whether it is on your website. And this is especially crucial for nonprofits because you are building trust with your community, especially doing things like asking for volunteers, asking for donations, spreading your message. So you want everything that you're creating to look and feel the same so that people trust that it's really you when they see what you're creating on the internet. So like I said, branding helps build trust. It's keeping consistent look across different types of content. And maintaining a tone that's recognizable to viewers so that will also all be different depending on what your nonprofit or your business is, if it's something you know super light and energy like maybe an after school program for children you would probably want something like more colorful, or you can also have a very serious nonprofit organization that you maybe it would be a little more toned down. So you can think about the message that you want to convey to your audience. And think about that in your branding. And this is just an example of three different types of designs, but they all look cohesive so it's similar color palette, similar like little doodles and swiggles here. And that is what branding looks like when you take the same look and put it in a few of your different projects. This is a sneak peek at the Adobe Express branding kit will go into how to set it up and all of the details of this but just wanted to show you the three main things that you would put in your brand kit are a logo and I'll show you how to make one for free if you don't have one or you can just import a logo that you already have your color, which I think is the most fun and I'll show you a trick for that. Also, if you don't have a color scheme picked and fonts. We also have some ways to help you choose your fonts if you don't have those picked out already. And if you already have a brand kit, you can add it, and this makes it easy to share with anyone in your team, especially if you have a team that is doing different things. This makes everything look the same, and you can pull from it without having to say like, Okay, everyone use this font keep it in your notes somewhere you can just have it all right here in this brand kit. Why design matters is a really important thing to think about design is you know visual it's what folks see when they see your brand. Humans are hardwired to prioritize visual information so great graphics are going to affect how your audience understands interprets and what they think about you after they see it. And it also helps create a compelling messaging so for example, here are two of two versions of the exact same template. One, as you may notice has a human element. And for me, I always notice that when I post things with either a photo of me or my team or just a human being that adds a greater connection to my audience and tends to do better and have people kind of relate to it a little bit more. So both of these are beautiful, but anytime that you can add a human elements your design is going to make it just connect with your audience a little more. This is also about showing not just telling. So we're going to go through a few ways to portray the information that you want with different design elements and this is also a great time to use Adobe stock. We don't have an arsenal of beautiful photos at the ready, we can help you out there. So first tip is to use a clear image, something attention grabbing. And then you can also add more descriptive copy in the actual caption of your post. So when people are scrolling through your feed, they'll notice the beautiful image and they'll stop to read the rest of what you have to say. So this is an example I pulled from Instagram. I think it's a really beautiful template that can be used over and over, especially for a situation like this. It's for a blog post this can be used for every new blog. So there's like a beautiful photo catching your attention with a human at front and center lets you know what the organization is what the title is what you're going to get by clicking in, and then again more information in the caption. So that is one of my favorite ways to use design with a clear image. So I'm going to talk about type type and color. So these combinations are important to set a tone and a mood. You also don't need a lot of words, if the kind of combination is doing the talking. So this is like a really bold stand out. So today for giving Tuesday and a pro tip for any new designers is to only use two to three fonts per project that helps keep it streamlined. It makes it feel a little more cohesive so can definitely be tempting to like add a bunch of different things and that's one of my favorite tips is to just stick to two or three different fonts in your branding and in your projects. But pay attention to the white space, it can feel like the best thing is to like do as much as possible fill every inch of your project that it's not done until it's full. And that is again one of my favorite tips for designers is leaving some white space can help the thing you're really trying to portray stand out more. So here we have polar bear in the center and you really notice it because it's in a sea of blank so that it's like the first thing you see when you look at this graphic. Copy is also something that you can use really well in your design. So for example here this could be a Twitter post or a LinkedIn photo, and the copy that you want is also in your design. You can include words. This like has the word giving really big so that's the first thing you notice. And then you'll also see the rest of the information along the right. And there's really high contrast here too so that is an important thing to think about the more contrast you have in your graphic the more noticeable it is and the more everything stands out. And then the last tip is to use beautiful photos whenever you can, but you may not have. You may not have your own like I have never taken a photo like this. I love photography, I think it's a lot of fun, but I don't always have the photos that I want for every project. I don't always have like the budget or the time to do that. So this is an Adobe stock photo, which is a great way to just have beautiful photos at the ready when you haven't necessarily taken them yourself and like I said there are over 600 million images so probably we have what you're looking for. Social media is a huge huge area. I could talk about this all day and I kind of do. I talk about social media a lot in my job at Adobe and actually do a YouTube series called get social with my co host Andy Lambert where we share our like content strategies and our tips for how we build our social media and then also do a recap of what's new in the world of social every month. So if this is interesting to you and you would like more information about this, please feel free to follow along. Again, if you're following me at Jordan's nail list, I link to all of this everywhere, but I'll just go over a few basic tips and tricks and then very happy to help with more of a social media deep dive outside of this webinar. One of my favorite things to do in Adobe Express is to customize content per platform. So here you can see this is. Oops, sorry friends accidentally clicked on the link in this instead of the chat. Hold on one second. Let me get back to this. How do I have not we're going to end our slide share a little early on one second. Let me bring this back. I'm sorry about that. Um, this is the read different versions of the same graphic use for different platforms. So we have a vertical option for Instagram stories that we have a square for Instagram and then we have a horizontal for Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and different platforms are used best for different things. You can use all of them, some of them, one or two of them that's really up to you and your bandwidth. So there are also brand new social networks all the time I heard about like three new ones in the past month. And so you can like rest easy. Don't be overwhelmed. Don't worry that you have to do all of it, but you can think about where your audience is and what messaging your nonprofit wants to share and maybe think about which platforms make the most sense for you to be on. So Facebook tends to be connecting with friends and family but Facebook groups are great so if you have a huge community aspect creating a Facebook group, maybe a good idea. Twitter is most used for like quick news. So something like lots of text heavy copy and also if you're like really up on what's happening next that Twitter might be a great place for you to hang out and stay connected with like quick things that are happening. Instagram is the most visual. So if you do visual storytelling or have a lot of photos showing off of the great things your organization organization is doing Instagram who could be great for that. LinkedIn is more professional more. It's more for like organizational news, and also making great connections in your industry. And then there are things like YouTube, TikTok, Discord. So depending on what you want to present that can really affect like which, which platforms you want to be on and right or wrong answer, it's whatever you have the bandwidth for whatever your team can handle. So you can think about the social networks that make the most sense and planning out and posting social content is a lot easier with the Adobe Express content scheduler which I'll show at the end of this. So now diving into the demo. Now I'll actually click on the link that I had before. So this is the Adobe Express homepage. I'm curious if folks in the chat I know some people have said that they use Adobe Express but if you have. Let me know and if you haven't I'm curious to because I'll just do a quick overview either way but I can dive into anything specific that you would like to see if there's anything in particular. Yeah, for the first time. This is what you'll see there is also a mobile app that you can use on your phone or tablet. Cool. Tim Tom Anna have never used great. So this is what you'll see if you are just starting Christmas. Yeah, you can create something from scratch right here at the top. These are all project sizes. This is a YouTube thumbnail or collage but this will open from scratch, or we have some templates that I'll scroll down scroll down and show you in a second. Right here we have some quick actions which are like one button things that you might want to do quickly so converting a video to a gift or trimming a video resizing an image or moving background, you can make a QR code. I like to switch to express this is great. Cool. Yeah, so this is how you can dive into some like one button things and then as you scroll down you'll see our templates. These are all designed by the Adobe design team. And I also like looking at this just to see kind of what's trending and what's new. So right here at the top we have seasonal highlights pride is coming up so lots of pride. And if you look through the popular templates sometimes I just like to see kind of what's trending and what what the look is for projects that are going out now. And then you can sort by logos book covers invitations, whatever you are making. We have some videos to help tutorials at the bottom. And that is our homepage. So going down the left. These are your projects this will be empty. If you haven't created anything before but these are my projects and all sorted by folders at the top. We'll click into the brand kit which I've been talking about. Yeah, there are lots of new features Kendall and more coming really soon. So stay tuned if you want there are some really exciting things coming up. Yeah, I'll show you how to click into templates but you can change everything and the design will stay the same. As far as giving access to folks outside of your office. I know that with the tech soup account you get up to 10 users. So if it's someone on your team you could add them. Or there is a free version of Adobe Express that anyone can use it just doesn't have access to the premium options so you could share a template or a project with someone, if it only has free features inside of it. Yeah, great for bulletins, all kinds of things. This is the brand kit. This is my brand and I can also show you the ones shared with me. So this is. These are the series of different brands that I have had other folks share with me to create one well I'll show you what it looks like I guess filled out so this is a bakery brand that we set up with a logo some colors some fonts, my coworker Katrina's brand so a few different versions of logos, different color palette her fonts. And then this is I run a magazine so this is our brand for that with our logo really bold colors and our fonts. If you the brand kit I believe is a premium feature so if you have a free version of Adobe Express I don't think you have access to the brand kit but if you have a premium version which you could get through tech soup then you would have access to this. If you want to create your own. You can just hit create a brand and this will be the screen that I showed off earlier. There are three things that you can fill in so upload your logo, pick your color and choose your fonts. This can take forever, or it could be like a quick and easy thing. So I wanted to show you. So this is Adobe color, which you can get. If you just go to color dot Adobe calm. This is free. And if you want to like play with color theory you can do it on this homepage but my favorite is that you can look at the trends to see like trending color palettes, where you can go to explore. So same thing you can see some cool color palettes that are already created, or you can also type in, for example is for nonprofit has to do with like water conservation and you want it to have kind of an ocean feel. You can click through here, and just check out some colors and then if you find one you love like maybe these blues are really doing it for you, you can click in and then you can copy all of these hex codes. So that is a great way to use Adobe color. We can also go to Adobe fonts, which you can just search fonts Adobe calm. And this is a great way to choose fonts if you don't have one for your brand. You can honestly just scroll the homepage and look for some favorites. You can also go to the recommendations and see like font pairings. You can see the way different fonts look in different projects so depending on the vibe and the mood of your brand, you can choose the font that's right for you. You can use the same Adobe ID on your different devices so you can log in with the same account on tablets or different computers, which is great. The next thing is if you search Adobe Express logo maker, there is a free logo maker that really only takes like five minutes. I'm not going to go through this today for the sake of time. But if you don't have a logo or even just want like a placeholder logo. So here's your logo now, literally just fill in like what your business is, what the name of it is a slogan if you want, and then it'll give you some options and you can cycle through and just have a logo in like five minutes which is great. So especially if you just want something to get started. Brands are important so be as intentional as you can, but also they can change as you grow or as your organization shifts so don't panic about making sure that everything you do is exactly perfect. But those are just some nice things to consider putting your brand together. So to go through libraries are essentially collections of design assets and templates. So these are some of my libraries. I have some for my YouTube series, we put some templates together for mental health awareness month. And then this library, we're actually going to share out with all of you at the end of this webinar. So this is a series of templates that I put together specifically for nonprofits. So the types of things that you may need to make like presentations, volunteer flyers, Instagram posts, infographics, gift cards, thank you cards, all of this type of stuff. You can see that it's all branded. So all of these are in the same color palette and the same font, which should make it really easy for you to adjust these to your own color palette, and your own favorite fonts. So those are all the different ways that you can start creating an adobe express you can create from scratch, you can search for a nonprofit template. You can create from a library. That is one thing I forgot to show you can search templates at the top. So we can go to nonprofit. See that there are over 500 templates for nonprofits, some of these you'll recognize from earlier in the deck. And then you can scroll through and see what looks good to you. If you are doing, you know, different type of here's a flyer for donating blood, different fundraisers, arts education, here's some giving Tuesday stuff. So you can really search and you can also search any template like if you just wanted to search Instagram. You can take any of these obviously and tweak it to your own needs. So if you want to do an AMA with your team, or you could change any of these to be something that fits for your nonprofit. And yes, anything can be saved as a JPEG PNG or PDF, which I will show you how we actually edit a template. I'm going to go back into our library. Yes, you can import graphics already created. So if you already have a logo, you can pull that in. You can bring in any other JPEG PDF Photoshop or Illustrator document if that's what you have. I'm going to click into this one to start editing it. But yeah, you can definitely bring in your own assets. And yes, there are newsletter templates kind of like there are you can use templates for like newsletter headline or sorry headings and then graphics inside but there aren't like full blown digital newsletter templates unless you meant like print newsletter like flyers, there are templates for that. So once you open a project, this is what you'll see over here on the side, you can switch brands if you have multiple brands, I'm going to keep this as mine, because that is the one I like. You can click into any loops, you can click into any of the text boxes. This is web based so sometimes it just decides it's done. And you can just refresh it. So you can click into any of the text here. So I'll make this my name and you can change the colors to so I'm going to pull my brand colors are now at the top. So I'm going to make this in my brand. This is a shape around the outside which I can adjust making this bigger or smaller. Keep it like that. I can make this bigger or smaller if I want. I can change all of these colors to be in my brand. I'll switch this and then go into this second shape to make this maybe orange. So if I want to switch out this photo, I can do lots of things with the photo here, I can replace the photo, I can also add filters. So if I want this to be black and white. I can also remove the background, which is one of my favorite things that just like makes your designs look a little more fancy. So I can remove the background here. If I want to keep it right, I can restore or erase part of it. And maybe then I want to pull this out to fit all the way behind. Yeah. And then if I want to replace this photo. One of my favorite things is that it will keep all of the features that we have so it will keep the removed background and keep the black and white. I can replace here and either upload a photo from my desktop. I can pull from my Adobe stock Lightroom Dropbox Google Drive or Google Photos. Or here I can see all of the Adobe stock photos I can search. I'm just going to look through the free ones really fast. Let's say I want to pull in this so it will replace and like I said it will keep the background removed and it will keep the black and white, which is really fun. If I want to add some like if I wanted to add something from my desktop, I could pull that in here. I can add shapes. I can add design assets. So things like backgrounds or, you know, different brush strokes, different textures, maybe we'll add a fun little brush stroke. If you've used Adobe products in the past, you might know about the layers function. So over here, I can decide basically the order that I want things to go in. So now it can be behind or I can actually ungroup this, which is what I really want and have this be. I want to ungroup it. Have this go. Yeah, perfect. I have this I can download it as a PNG JPEG or PDF, or I can also make different versions of this so for example if I wanted to show off my volunteer of the week and make this either a carousel or a recurring post. I can hit duplicate page at the bottom. I'll have a second page and then I can just go through and change out anything I want. I can change the colors to make, you know, make this a little different. I can go into this photo and replace it with our new volunteer of the new week. Let's pull in this guy. And if it doesn't quite crop exactly the way I want, I can go into this crop and shape or I can just resize it to be the size that I want it to be. Which here we go. And you know, change the name, do all of that fun stuff. And I can do this over and over for different posts. I can also duplicate it again. If I wanted to take the same post and maybe make this an Instagram story. I can group all of these just so they don't fly all over the page and then hit resize. And here we have all of our standard social media posts. So if you know you want to Pinterest or YouTube thumbnail. I will make this an Instagram story so I can maybe drag this up a little higher and then add a shape that I would want to use for like putting a link in the bottom. So if you have other folks use Instagram stories like that, I like to always share a link at the bottom. Yeah, and then you can click here and see them all together. You can download them all together and is it file and all the formats that I just showed you, or one of my other favorite things which yeah someone just asked about who it's sweet we do have a social media content scheduler. So you can click in here, schedule your post to social media. And now we currently have Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Pinterest and LinkedIn. I think TikTok is coming next. So if you click over to connections, you can just add them all here if you've ever used a social media website before. Sorry social media schedule before it's very similar. I have to refresh my Pinterest, and then you can just click in to whichever ones you want to share this post to choose the date. So maybe I'll share it out tomorrow. I'm going to make this a draft post because I don't want to actually schedule this but normally I would hit schedule. You can type in your caption. So say it is meet our latest volunteer. And you can add whoever it is. I'll just add my own here. You can add hashtags if you want. And for Instagram, or you can add them into the caption and then my favorite thing is when you hit preview you can see what it looks like on all the different social networks. So you can see, this is what it's like on Twitter, on Instagram, on Facebook so if something gets cut off or doesn't look quite right. You can check that. At the moment, there aren't any analytics but we get asked for that often and I really hope that's something we can offer soon. So great question stuff. And that is that I will hit draft. So now it'll show up in my calendar, like, I use this so I have posts up all the time. Here are the things that I scheduled right now. And if I want to like move it to, I can't move it to back in time. I can move it to the next day if I want these to all be spread out, or I can click into them and adjust it if I want to actually change my caption. And one of my favorite tips is that I also use this to plan out my social media content. So for anyone who knows the struggle of like looking at a blank page and just not being completely sure what you want to post. I use these little drafted post posts, the ones that are kind of purpled out to plan ahead what I want to post that week. So I want my Wednesdays to be a teaser for an Instagram live series that I do. I want my Thursdays to be a behind the scenes photo. I want my Fridays to actually be the Instagram live. And then I can do other things like tips and tricks or favorite quotes or meet the team. So I really like using this as a way to plan out what's coming next so that I don't, I don't know if anyone in the chat has done this before where you open your phone to post something and then you just stare at it for a while because you can't decide what it should be. This really helps me spend the time that I'm spending on social actually making it quickly and getting it out instead of just not really being sure what's next or maybe forgetting to post something if I know there's something that I really want to promote. I can put it in this calendar so that I don't forget to make sure that I post about it. So that is the general overview of Adobe Express. We have a question about pages. I don't believe that there are any web page templates, but I do believe that you can. I know that you can copy them so we didn't show this off but if you hit here you can also make a web page, which is an Adobe Express page. You can add a title, and then just kind of add different things like photo grids buttons video. And then if you create one, you can copy it yes or and duplicate it or share it. And I think that is my overview of Adobe Express. Tom asked the difference between Canva and Adobe Express. They're very similar products in the sense that they are like quick and easy design for folks who aren't professional designers. There are differences in both so the standout options on the Adobe Express side are that everything is powered by Adobe. So the templates are all created by our Adobe designers, we have Adobe fonts and Adobe stock. And there are some things coming that are really cool to integrate with the other Adobe products. So of more things to say about that really soon. I think we'll do another webinar to show off some of those things but yeah there are lots of products kind of in this space of creating design options for folks who don't have a design background, which is great. Adding more users, Michelle adding more users to what to a project or to your team. Let me know to your team. I'm actually not 100% sure how that works. I know that you can have up to 10 people. So, I'm not sure where that is though, I think it would be in your TechSoup account. Is there a template to show social media icons with the links. Like, do you mean, do you mean something like, like just having your, having your username. We have, I believe, if you want to add, I think it is in shapes. Let me see, I might be wrong with this. You can add social icons. So let me see. It looks like if you wanted to add the icons, you would add them separately. But I don't think there is a template, Larry, exactly like what you're asking. Someone can share my post elsewhere. Do you mind explaining a little bit more? I'm not sure I totally understand what you're asking. Okay. Thank you for the information. Adding users will be in your TechSoup account. So that is great. Yes, so Tama asking about video. I didn't show this today because we're updating all of our video options really soon and it'll be different and better. So that will be coming soon and we will do another webinar for that. And also we'll have options all over the Adobe Express YouTube. And we will be showing that off when it comes out. The TechSoup Adobe Express Premium for one year not program offer, I guess is the word I want, is renewable. So yes, you can renew it after each year. Will this also drop into square space? I think the only way it would is if you created a graphic that you then pulled into square space as an image, but I don't think you could... I don't think there's any other way. Like there isn't at the moment any type of syncing with square space, but you could create your banner or your logo or different... You know, different graphics that go in your web page in Adobe Express and then just download them and link them up through square space. Yeah. If there are any questions that I missed, does this work? Since you something I was going to ask you, Tom had a question in Q&A about the licensing of Adobe Stop. So how long can we use the photos and are any of the images created by AI? That is the question that I am not an Adobe Stock expert as far as what content is in there. So I am not positive if any of our stock photos are AI generated versus not. I believe that that would be like in the information, but like per the images, but I'm not totally sure. As far as licensing, it's in the Adobe Express licensing agreements so that you can use any of the Adobe Stock photos that are available here in any Adobe Express project with all of the same licensing. So like this is all available for commercial use. I believe it's all over the world. Don't quote me on that. I haven't memorized our terms, but I don't know that it's limited geographically anywhere. But there is, you can check the terms and service of Adobe Express and it would have any like the Adobe Stock photos are within the Adobe Express terms and services. So if you have documents made in Canva, I don't believe that there's a way to transfer those into Adobe. Oh, thanks Bailey for yeah, that is all of the info about Adobe Stock images, which there's a lot of information there. I don't have it all at the top of my head. I think you would have to rebuild anything you had created in Canva in Adobe Express. You had created custom things that you put like if you create, you know, custom designs and illustrator Photoshop and imported them into Canva you could bring those into Express too. Question about staff accounts. I don't actually know if that would be a tech soup or Adobe customer service question Lori. You could try both and I'm sure they'll tell you which one. Yeah, Joe this is available through tech soup Adobe Express premium is free renewable every year for up to 10 users. So that is the offer here. Other templates that access Excel data, Larry not at this moment. There are like this is not I know this isn't what you're asking, but there are like infographic templates. You can create templates with information, but there is no integration with Excel at this moment. Is there an easy way to determine which features and apps are included in the express. Click down something and find it is an acrobat pro. Michael where, where are you. Where are you clicking on things. Do you mean when you're editing PDFs, if you, if you want to. When you're talking about anything PDFs if acrobat is what is coming up. So right here, all of these options are available in Adobe Express. If you go to express out Adobe calm and like bring in a PDF that you are working with here. I, none of this would link you out to acrobat pro. This is awesome that you can absolutely do in Adobe Express. I am not sure where you're seeing that. And I understand that that's frustrating. If you want, feel free to message me separately to if you want to like send me an example I can try to figure that out for you but if you do you want to like edit a PDF or converts or organize pages you should be able to do all of that here. Yeah, you should be able to log into your same Adobe account. Like the same one should let you use any Adobe products that you have access to. So, I'm just not sure what would redirect you to acrobat pro but I'm very happy to help try to figure that out. There was another question. Oh, about the recording. Yes. Everyone can have the recording and you can use Adobe Express on your iPad login with the same account. You can see like your account will sink through desktop on either PC or Mac there is no program to download on your computer. It's just a web based product so you just go to express dot Adobe calm and then up here in the corner login to your account and then you can use that same account to log in on a tablet. Yeah, your iPad your phone and your projects should sink across all of those. Any more questions anything I missed. Wait another few seconds. Yeah, don't forget to answer the survey as you close the window but we'll wait a few more minutes to see there's a question by Larry in the Q&A. I have a similar to Microsoft SharePoint. I'm not sure. Like we have the creative cloud, which has libraries are you talking about that like the ability to share files and stuff because you, you do have the creative cloud library and then that sinks between Adobe products. Managing lists. Not that I know of. Other than creative cloud libraries. I've not heard of anything better for managing lists but let me ask around. Is there anyone who has more specific questions to that I didn't get to feel free to find me at Jordan Denialis or email me and I'll just, I'll ask I am not the like overall Adobe expert. There are definitely things I can ask my coworkers who know more about our other products, more than I do so I can try to find that out if you want to reach out to me separately. I'll ask around, because Adobe has a lot of things to offer that I don't know about all of them. So I can certainly ask around. Yes. And then yeah when we share the recording will share the library of templates for you all to so you can play with that. And yeah if anyone has questions, please please feel free to reach out to me. I am. I am very available. Let me see. Does this have all of the, there is a list of everything. So all the Adobe offerings. I think if you go to TechSoup and search Adobe you'll see all of the TechSoup offerings as I was asking Larry and yeah, feel free to email me I am at, I am Jordan Denay at Adobe.com. Drop it in the chat. Thanks Bailey. Yeah Bailey just linked to this, which is all of the Adobe nonprofit offerings here. And yeah just going to the this, which is everything we have in Adobe Express for nonprofits. Thank you for that Jessica. Any other questions. I think that's it. Cool. Yeah, feel free. Anyone email me and here is my social handle everywhere too. Happy to help. Anyway I can. Thanks John. Thanks Cecilia. Thanks for being here everybody. Thanks Robin. Thanks Larry. Thank you. And lots of thank yous in the chat and thank you Bailey for being in the background we appreciate you. Alright until next time everybody don't forget to fill out the survey and we'll see you next time. Bye.