 So, hi everybody, thanks for coming. My name is Amaya, she is Sara, and we are two female developers that been working as a developer for more than 20 years already. I want to clarify that I start coding with two years. Yeah, okay. Apart from that, we are here just to share some experiences from us as female developers and for our colleagues, also female developers in the tech. We guess that you will be wondering why why we choose this title for the presentation, not the women in the tech part, but the women restroom queues are longer than women's. That's based on a real experience that we live. Some years ago when we went to a PHP conference during the break we were surprised because when we went to the restroom the women's was totally empty and there was a huge queue in the men's one, so yeah based on that real history. We will be using a Google Cloud for this session. You will find one first question now and you will see that there will be more questions in the future because we want to know. The first thing we want to know is which is the restroom that you are choosing in this venue right now? So yeah, you can see everything related to the resrooms. The goals for the session, it's like we are not trying to fix anything in that session. It's a pity that we don't have super power to do it, but it's like we are not trying to do this. We want to share some experiences as I said before that some of our colleagues, women, has shared with us. We will talk about things that might seem normal but when you see them you will think, oh that's pretty normal, why they are talking about that. But they may feel comfortable with some people, so even you think that they are normal. They still remember now, and they happened a long time ago, so that's important for you to see that they are not normal, it's not normal for everybody. At the end of the session we will be super satisfied if just one single person in the whole room can reflect on any of them. That's all. So first we're going to start with some road data that we find about some research and statistics in the internet related to women in tech. So you're going to find in the slides you have the source of the research and statistics. You want to check more or look for some more numbers or data or whatever. Less than 30% of software programmers are women in the US, and they earn less money for the same roads and jobs than men. And another thing, another data that was curious for us, is that only 4% of the funding went to female funded startups or only 60% of 16% to mixed teams, even though the startups founded or co-founded by women get most revenue. So when they go revenue, they get less funding. So about open source contributors or open source world, that is our world. Women represent only 5% of the Apache Sewer Foundation, only 9% of Linus Kerner, 10% of OpenStack, and only 9% of the Github users are women. And what about Moodle? In Moodle, in the total number of employees, there is 40%, which is not bad. It's a lot of people. But then if we start looking deeper and we look at the technical departments like the product one, which by the way is leaded by a woman, is Marie. We have a 33%, which is lower. And then if we look just the developers, we are talking about five people. So, yeah, 11% which is not too high. And with the Moodle community, the numbers are quite similar to the ones that Amaya shared before. In the Moodle top 100 contributors, there are only eight women, which is OK, but it could be better. And in the particularly helpful Moodle, in the forums, in the Moodle.org, we have a 10%, which is also it's similar to other open source projects. So, yeah, now we're going to share specific cases, real cases that our colleagues share with us. They happen during their whole work life. So it could happen some years ago. You can use the same book club if you want to share with us. If you feel represented, no matter the gender, of course, if you feel represented in any of those cases, Julia will help us with the book club. Thanks, Julia, by the way, for all your help preparing this presentation. So, we're going to start saying that we want to make it clear we are not judging. OK, we are just sharing and we would like you to think about them, but that's it, we are not judging anything. So, the first case is something related to something that happened and at least in Spain has been very well known. Because I don't know if you know, but the Spanish female football team has been a champion in the World League. So, during the celebration of the championship, one of the managers of the federation grabbed a genuine Moso's head, one of the players, and gave her a kiss with no consent. So, here at least was very well known, I don't know, in the rest of the world. But this is something very specific that has been in all the news and everywhere. But this is something that still happens, OK? So, there are experiences that some of our colleagues share with us related to that. So, has your manager or someone about you in Rang has taken advantage of a celebration, party, like, a celebration or a reaction moment to kiss you, touch you, or get too close without consent? Running like a girl was a campaign run like 10 years ago. And it was like to say, because before, it's like sometimes when we are running like a girl, it's something bad. But it's like, I'm going to explain you a secret. We are girls. So, sometimes we do things like girls. I think it's normal, it's OK, it's not bad. And in fact, related to girls running, I want to share with you an experience. Last weekend, in my town, we were organizing a competition for children from zero to 14 years old, three competitions, and do you know who was the winner of the three competitions? Three different girls. So, girls can run and girls can also go green. So, yeah, have you ever been told that you do things like a girl? Yeah, this is another experience, very common. It's important and we know that it's very important to keep people hydrated. We have nothing against that. But it's usually, have you been constantly asked to bring water or coffee or even tea, you know, to the meetings? Yeah, forever young, remember, I'm young. Yeah, I must confess that I am not 22. Yeah, but sometimes people think that I am still 22, and they call and it's like this. So, sometimes when people call and it's a women, the one taking the phone, answering the phone, they think that you are a secretary, but we are not, we are developers. So, yeah, have you ever been mistaken for some one secretary or intern, even when that someone is younger? Yeah, another point, parenthood is not easy. OK, we know that, but it's not easy for everybody, whatever you are, male, female or whatever. But during the hiding process, have you ever been asked if you want to have children or have you ever been password-promoted just because you have children? That one is tricky because it's like sometimes it's like we are women and sometimes we know what we are talking about, so we are assertive. And if we are too assertive, somebody can tell us that we are posse. But on the other side, there were also some people sharing with us that they had the imposter syndrome. So it's like, it's like, OK, if we are too assertive, we are called posse. But on the other side, we don't feel confident enough. And even when people are saying to us all the time that we are capable or doing things great, we have the syndrome. So, yeah, that's tricky. That's why we call it quality artifact. So have you ever been called posse for being assertive? Another point that has been shared is that numbers are important, but people are much more important. So we should keep the respect to the people more than the numbers. So have you been asked to participate in something to just fulfill a gender quota? And this is the last one. It's like some of our colleagues shared with us that the majority of their colleagues in IT having women and it was like, oh, that's shocking. That's very different to what is happening now to us. So does it mean that maybe the IT is not something biological and there is something cultural or educational? Yeah. So can you see, can you say that the majority of your colleagues in IT having women? Is that something that you can affirm? So, yeah, those are all the cases that we wanted, the summary of the cases that we want to share with you. So now, apart from the book club, if you want, of course, we are not pushing anyone to say anything. But regardless of your gender, how do you feel reflected in any of the causes that we share? So can you raise your hand? OK, so this is to see that we are not alone. You are not alone. This is normal. It happens to everybody. It's OK to share. It's OK to talk about it because we didn't do anything else, anything wrong. So it's OK to talk about it. And that's a kind reminder for the goal of the consultation. Just to check that if I cover everything. Remember, we didn't try to fix anything. We were only sharing some experiences, some real experiences that some colleagues were sharing with us and women. Thanks to all the women that helped us to prepare this presentation. Yeah, because it was for them. And it's like if any of you have a perfect on them, we consider ourselves super satisfied. It's not true. If there are any experiences that you want to share with us, if you don't have any experience, we can always meet in the restrooms queue and talk about them. No, please. Let's meet in the restrooms. No, no, no. Cachiz, cachiz. Cachiz. Cachiz. OK, so gender equity is everywhere. But every time I answer a sales call for Moodle, I invariably get told, but can we speak to your technical person? So I said, no, I am the technical person. No, no, no, but there must be someone else. So that's one. And in another one of a demo, a client got very offensive. And he said, who's your boss? So I wanted to tell him that I am the boss. I own the company. But I didn't say that. So I think gender equity is everywhere. And I mean, you are all living in far more progressive countries than some of us. So there are far fewer women in open source and tech in countries like India. And the patriarchy is so strong that the men just cannot believe that you will answer questions on Moodle hosting or size of server or things like that. So it's a daily thing. But I mean, you have to confront it so that they change their mindset. And you cannot sort of let it pass. So the next time he says, OK, if he has a technical question, he should come back to me. So it's a daily issue. Yeah, it is. Thanks for sharing. It is sufficient. Salih, it is. I'll also just share. So a few years ago, I actually worked as a computer and technology sales company. So it's basically any PC parts, any accessory, stuff like that. And often I'd just be on the pickup desks, but I was brought over to the sales and people would queue. And obviously men were more predominant coming in to get parts. They would look at the people across the desk and whoever was next would go to the next available. They would see you were a woman and you could see in their eyes that they were just like, I don't want to be served by you. Or if they were and they sat down, they questioned everything you said and every recommendation because they just couldn't believe that the advice you were giving would be actually good or correct. And they would want to get that verified by a man on the desk there. And it just made you feel really shit. Yeah, thank you. Thanks again for sharing. I think we've got time for one more. I guess I'll share an experience that's kind of similar to that one. Very shortly after I started my job that I'm doing now, we had a professor come on campus who he is extremely technologically illiterate. And it is my job to help people no longer be technologically illiterate. And he had the impression that every woman he has ever met is his secretary, which played really nice with our entirely female executive team. Yeah, he no longer works for us. But there was a moment where he and I were on a troubleshooting call and he just started screaming at me that he didn't understand what was going on and why aren't I fixing this and blah, blah, blah, blah. I finally was like, you need to stop. I am literally trying to explain to you how to solve this problem right now. But you won't let me speak. So I can't tell you how to fix it. But that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.