 So I didn't I lean wouldn't let me go into a McDonald's. What did she feel and I never got enough time on my own To go do it. Why it's like a tradition. You have to go try the local You know you're married. You're not like enjoined twins. Well, I mean yes I could have forced the issue, but it just wasn't worth it She was like because we were all wanting to eat together and I was like, let's try McDonald's and I was with two other people besides I'm always willing to try something odd. Yeah, so I tried Fugu. Well, they looked at it as not odd They're like, why would we go there? We can get that at home. I'm like not that we can't get that at home You can't get a McJapanese McDonald's at home Well next time it would be I was like, it's like the 7-Eleven 7-Eleven's not the same, right and They didn't that is the best argument ever because the 7-Eleven is extremely different There's actually a great scene in Master of Nuns season two that just came out. Oh don't spoil it. This This will not spoil any of the plot. Is that okay? Okay, fine There's an Italian woman goes into a drug store in the US and she gets all like super excited and As he's care as he's his character dev is just like, okay, and I'm like that is exactly how I felt at a 7-Eleven in Japan That's I think one of the things that I loved the most when I first went to Japan was Well, all of the trivial things but the vending machines was like, oh my god, you can buy like warm drinks and Cold drinks from the same machine Yeah, the hot coffee from the vending machine And that's like that also sells the cold coffee Yeah, exactly and they had like they don't have them anymore but they had like games where you would need to to Put the coin in at a specific time or press the button and it would be like And you couldn't see any of those sadly, oh, they I think they must have Outlawed them because you know, basically gambling gambling. Yeah, I didn't see Tommy Lee Jones Advertising for boss coffee though. Oh, yeah, he's been doing that for 20 years Eileen was very like the first time she'd been to Japan She'd seen billboards and commercials and then when we got there, they weren't there anymore And she was on the hunt and we finally in Kyoto found A vending machine that had the Tommy Lee Jones thing on it You celebrated it was either Out of date and hadn't been changed out or was the beginning of a new campaign. We couldn't couldn't figure that Have you seen lost in translation? Of course Who hasn't in fact Eileen made me take a picture of her in the window at the Hyatt Because we stayed there for a night on purpose. You did. Yes Honeymoon and then they must have so many dumb foreigners But yeah, it was worth it totally totally it's a really nice hotel, too. It's not like it isn't Mm-hmm. They had oh, maybe we don't have time. Okay. I'll tell you another time. We did save that for the post show Okay. 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No, it's it's funny I don't I don't know how many times I hear people say I really like Daily Tech news show because I was in a meeting And I was able to talk about something With intelligence that I would not otherwise have known about and it really impressed my boss co-worker friend, etc Hey, why do you think I listen? Why do you think Patrick is on the show? Why do you think I do the show? Yeah No, that's actually true. Let's start with a few tech things you should know 4k TVs under either the brand element or Westinghouse with Amazon's fire TV software built-in are available for pre-order on Amazon as you might expect 43 inch bottle sells for $449 on up to $899 for the 65 inch version, but before we get too excited. That's no HDR. They are not HDR capable They do have Amazon voice services though in the included remote This is 4k though for 4k $449 HDR. Yeah, not HDR. Okay, but still it feels like this is maybe I'm not used to those American prices of yours. No, no, he's super cheap. Yeah But yeah, I mean, this is it's, you know, not big brands probably brands that can't afford to develop their internal OS to make their TVs super smart. So it makes sense for them to partner with Amazon Tinder has filed a notice of threatened Opposition to the application for a trademark for a competing dating app called Schindler Schindler was designed by Shed Simov I guess that's how you pronounce it and he is the only male available on the platform He also received a letter from lawyers representing the elevator firm Schindler Requesting he not enter the elevator or escalator market. Is it bad if I say he made their list? Yes But he did get three dates Steven Levy has written up a preview of Apple's new campus, which will hold 12,000 employees Of course, very wistful because this is one of the last big projects that Steve Jobs helped design preview appears in Wired With lovely pictures from Dan Winters You know, I love Apple. I don't love Apple enough to read. What is it? 10,000 words on their office Looks very beautiful. I just looked at Dan Winters pictures I write a little bit of basically Mark Gurman and Alex Webb at Bloomberg report their sources say Apple will introduce three new laptops at WUW DC Including a new MacBook Pro with a Kaby Kaby Lake processor Well, a lot of rumors of hardware announcements at WUW DC, which is unusual. I don't think we introduce hardware No, they haven't in a long time The bigger thing for me is the MacBook Air, which is apparently not being Overhauled it's still the same old MacBook Air, which is much bigger than the new MacBook and It it's not so airy anymore. Yeah, and they might be getting rid of the iPad mini They might just continue that size. I understand. All right, some more top stories biz stone announced on medium He is returning to Twitter after being asked to do so by Jack Dorsey Apparently his role will be being biz stone. I'm not making that up stone says fellow co-founder Ev Williams even said that biz stone is quote among the best in the world at being biz stone Stone says he's not replacing anyone his quote focus will be to guide to the company culture So they just want him to come back and give Twitter that old black magic that Biz weaves so well, you know, I don't think you're doing the The quotes justice here what he's actually saying is my top focus will be to guide the company culture That energy that feeling That energy Feeling still no sense, you know, I mean he biz stone I've met biz we interviewed him for CNET back in the young days of Twitter And he and Ev were both very excited about what they had stumbled across Jack Dorsey bringing him back is a really smart move Especially saying look, we just want you to kind of wander around to get people excited about Twitter again I think they really need that Yeah, I think they need a little bit more than just that I think they definitely definitely It's not the only thing they need and and I think he could potentially bring something more as well There could be some direction or some even product You know development that he could Think about and still inspire but to be honest if I had just read this post Without any other context or knowledge for the the tech industry. I might have thought this is the biggest Amount of BS I have ever read because he says nothing It could all read like a pity move like I went back for a meeting at my old company and my old co-founders The CEO said oh, I'll give you a job But instead instead what he should be saying is I'm coming out of Twitter to take care of business. Oh No, he should definitely not say that No, but I mean Founders returning to a company that has known a lot of success and might be a little bit in a tougher place Right now. We've seen that story before and sometimes it works out and I'm not only talking about Apple One person can sometimes make a big difference and maybe this stone can be that for Twitter Yeah, who knows what happened of Bushnell would have been brought back to Atari for example. Yeah Instagram has added eight face filters including crowns animals and math equations They can be used in front or back cameras and in any Instagram shooting mode Including boomerang Instagram users can also add hashtags Hashtag stickers and use a new rewind video effect and eraser Yeah, so I mean everybody make it a big deal about the fact that we constantly see these new Features from Instagram that are actually old features from Instagram borrowed from Snapchat, right? They're not they're they're new to Instagram, but but not new to us. I I Don't get that enthusiastic about it because I see it as a normal Maturation of a product line and I think maybe that's the the reason people get so excited is they think of Snapchat as something unique That no one else does and what Instagram and to a certain extent Facebook Messenger are showing is that they this is This is now a category not just a unique thing that Snapchat does. I Agree and disagree at the same time it is true that basically it was Snapchat that was doing it and only Snapchat and Instagram it's not like it's the first thing that they're copying from Snapchat I would say it's it's easy to forget what Instagram was a few years ago It was the place you would go to easily share your beautiful pictures made more beautiful by those filters and It's act. I think it's actually turning itself into Almost Snapchat. I think it's it's going after a different audience Maybe the beautiful pictures audience is already captured and they know that the younger audience wouldn't it wouldn't be enough for them So they're actually transforming the product in a very Profound way to make it appeal to that Younger or you know, I don't want to qualify it as younger actually, but the Snapchat audience and it is again a Deep transformation of what the product is if you think about it It's come gradually, but if you think about this Instagram just two years ago Was just pictures and now it's something very different. Well, I I think and this may be anecdotal I this is anecdotal this may not this may just be my my perception filter But I don't see as many people writing about Instagram stress since they launched Instagram stories There used to be a lot of this angst about having to look perfect on Instagram and Instagram stories took the pressure off there I'd be curious if it's actually lowered their demographic Any if it's pushed into younger folks or if it's just brought that Snapchat like lack of pressure To its existing audience which always has been a little bit older. I I Yeah, I wouldn't know but it seems to me that that These new features attract Different people as well and they're you know constantly gaining more users So there is something that's attracting different bringing a new people. You're absolutely right HTC announced it's squeezable phone. I don't know why this fascinates me so much the idea of a squeezable phone It's not even squeezable in the sense. They like the the sides don't move It just senses your pressure. But anyway 5.5 inch you 11 is their new flagship smartphone has a 12 megapixel camera with optical stabilization That is now rated one point higher than the Google Pixel camera bundles in Amazon's voice assistant along with its own voice assistant The HTC sense companion and Google assistant The phone features edge sense that lets you squeeze if you squeeze short or long You can do different things it can perform functions like squeeze to launch the camera squeeze to take a picture squeeze to launch the Google Assistant You 11 uses usb-c. So no headphone jack But it does include a 3.5 millimeter adapter phone is available for pre-order now from Sprint in the US It'll be in store June 9th and an unlocked version is available for pre-order on HTC.com for six hundred forty nine dollars That will ship in June as well Well, first of all usb-c. No headphone jack. I guess that's notable But you know why you're excited about that squeeze ability It's because it's actually cool, you know, it's a way of adding a function and design Interaction with the phone that isn't adding more buttons and that makes complete sense It is entirely in keeping with the way you use the product I think it is it is, you know, it could be used of course It's not gonna be used exactly as a button would but it could be used really smartly I'm not sure this GC has enough of a footprint on the Android market to make it completely to fulfill the potential of something like this but Even if you're smiling and I sense that you're disagreeing I do think that it is a Super smart design Technological design thing. No, I don't disagree with anything that is actually very wise an Intelligent analysis of the advantage of this edge sense from HTC. Why I'm smiling is I don't think that's why I'm attracted to it at all I think in my mind, it's a squishy phone That just entertains me because I'm not even disappointed that it's not because because of your cogent analysis Which is like, no, this is a very useful thing here It's just it's just you know, the idea of a squishy phone. Maybe something Basically, yes Disney CEO Bob Iger Reportedly told ABC employees Monday that the company is being asked to pay ransom in Bitcoin or an upcoming movie will be leaked online Disney reportedly does not intend to pay Deadline reports. The movie is pirates of the Caribbean dead men tell tell no tales So, yeah, get it out of your system folks. The pirates stole pirates and there's nothing to pirate it um I think this is very telling that there's almost no panic about this remember there was the orange is the new black leak as well And almost no one noticed even though it hasn't come out on Netflix yet There it does not seem like I see a bunch of people like have you watched or like Game of thrones ahead of time or the premiere of American gods ahead of time that might have shook the world a little bit Uh, but I don't you know a lot of people are like, oh, no, I actually want to see this on the big screen Right, I mean I could always wait and download it later and it's the fifth movie. It's not like it's the first one that I'm dying to see That I'm willing to go and download it somewhere and apparently they're going to release it 20 minutes at a time And it's it's like they're just tweaking Disney and Disney Doesn't appear to be blinking Well, I mean if it was yeah, if it was a star wars movie or something like that Yes, that would be a much bigger deal But even then, you know, it's really interesting that a lot of people don't really care And yes, you could go and download something in the case of oranges the new black you could But it's very telling that it's so Easy now to just watch this wherever you can that a lot of people don't even bother Even if they could watch it a few, you know a few weeks or months in advance and Again, this is not again as you said Game of thrones or star wars, but still it's it's just not a big deal And those things get pirated The day they come out anyway, so it's not like These things never happen. Yes, maybe they don't get pirated a few days or weeks before But it's kind of the same thing I don't think anyone would expect Disney to pay anything in this case No, Disney should figure out how to shore up their IT. So something like this doesn't happen I suppose but I've been saying for years that the best competition for piracy is ease of access Make it easy for us to get things legally and we won't bother to go find things in darker channels For the most part and I think a lot of people mostly with oranges of the new black But even with this they're like, well, I can either go try to figure out how to get this Or just wait till it comes to netflix or just go to the theater and watch it And I think I think there are things big enough to push us to go and like, oh, you know what? I do want to see star wars before it comes out. Sure. I'll I'll go to see that right But those are few and far between especially that's the other part of this is there's so much good content out there We're not dying for the hot new thing because everything else is so bad If anything, we all have too much to watch that we're like, I don't I don't want to add another thing to my list And I think there's also another element, which is we want to watch it when everyone's watching it Oh, it doesn't feel as fun to go and pirate it and watch it alone and be like All right. I can't really talk about this right exactly. It's like, oh, yeah, I didn't watch it Don't spoil it for me. Please don't talk about it. You're most likely to run into Zeni max has filed a lawsuit against samsung seeking royalties and damages for copyright infringement and use of trade secrets relating to the gear vr headset Of course gear vr headset made in partnership with oculus earlier this year zeni max won a lawsuit against oculus for copyright infringement Oculus was not found guilty of stealing trade secrets in that lawsuit and oculus is still pursuing that lawsuit They haven't given up on appeals yet There's also the ruling that zeni max itself is being sued by former employee and current oculus employee john karmak For unpaid acquisition money relating to zeni max's acquisition of id software So zeni max getting sued by karmak might go to court again with oculus They and then they decide to just kind of lash out at samsung with some deep pockets I'm a little befuddled by the fact that they would choose to do this now Well, I think you know With the the the suit against oculus it looked like they were a little bit money hungry And with this one coming right after it definitely I mean the image I have of zeni max now is you know uh pale thin fingered vampires Rubbing their hands and going like we can get more money. I don't know why vampires have that accent I thought that'd be like undead pirates or something given our previous story. Sure. Oh, yeah that too But you know when you think about it it they did have a relatively solid case in the case of uh oculus they did win Uh the suits it's still you know being in appealed but still so It is also possible that they actually have a solid case and a solid case against samsung They did say that the way they describe it The case against samsung is a little bit more it seems more thin It's basically two people in an office going you know having drinks late at night and going like hey I have an idea for the uh mobile version of this. Yes. Let's put sketches down on paper and that's Essentially, I might be you know changing the story, you know If your case is not iron clad and you don't have a lot of money going up against samsung is a tough bet Maybe they think this can get samsung to put some pressure on oculus to settle Uh because samsung won't want to bother with it. You know, it could be could be seen as some kind of leverage Uh, I'm very curious what their strategy is there Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day, uh, you got to check out daily tech headlines There's three great ways to get it. You can get it on the anchor app at anchor.fm Anchor is an excellent app that lets you just listen to a bunch of cool stuff From all kinds of people around the web and you have control over it So for instance in headlines, you can skip through the headlines as you are interested in them Go check that out at anchor.fm You can also get it on the amazon echo as your flash briefing or download it as a podcast of course at daily tech headlines dot com All right for our main discussion today, uh, I want to talk about this leaked letter from the uk's national data guardian dame fiona caldecott She sent a letter to professor steven powis. He's the medical director of the royal free hospital in london And the letter is about alphabets deep mind deal with the national health service deep mind national health service Had a deal to develop an app The dame fiona caldecott investigation has been Part of a wider investigation About whether the deal was legal and dame fiona caldecott says no The reasoning for the deal has an inappropriate legal basis sky news obtained the letter Which advises the ongoing investigation from the uk's information commissioners office? The question that's being investigated is whether deep mind had the right to handle personally Identifiable health data from 1.6 million pat patients now that sounds awful Especially when you know that deep mind was bought by google when it was google not alphabet And so there's that whole google part of this deep mind rushing to reassure people We are not sharing any of this data with google all we're doing is using it to train this app But they didn't ask for individual permission from the 1.6 million patients deep mind argues It didn't need to because under uk law if you're providing direct care You can use this information because you need to to provide medical care You need to have this information and you don't have to get individual permission Deep mind says we were providing direct care We were using this data for a single purpose to train a medical app called streams That was being built for the national health service Which is in use now helping doctors identify patients at risk from acute kidney injury And no one is saying they should stop the app the the app that's out in the wild everybody's fine with what they're investigating is Did this deal did this agreement? Follow the law did the national health follow the law when they gave deep mind permission to use this 1.6 million Patient records and and it seems to hinge around whether it's direct care now dame fiona caldecott says it was not direct care I I kind of side with her there, but at the same time I don't think deep mind used it irresponsibly They used it strictly to make this app the worries are that when they have that data You know, can they be trusted to handle it responsibly and only use it for this app? And that's why the laws are so strict It seems like so okay The direct care thing I think is a stretch any I'm not a lawyer so I couldn't tell you exactly what it implies but it seems to me that the idea the the spirit of the rule is you share personal medical information with your physician or the person Caring for you because they need that information to Give you the proper medical attention you require. It's not really I'm going to use lots of personal information to make a product that is going to benefit people in general I need to heal this wound Hold on. Let me get the records of 1.6 million patients So I can analyze them and figure out the best way to heal your wound I mean, it just doesn't make sense. That's I think that's the real problem is This is a situation that doesn't fit the law the law was written in an entirely different set of circumstances right however um there is Okay, another problematic thing is yes deep mind might have Used it to Benefit that specific app that will help a lot of people apparently But it also uses it to train its ai Which as you know satya nadella put it at build earlier. It was last week The the you know data is the fuel of ai And you need a lot a lot of data to do a deep learning and machine learning And that's what allows it to get better So I suspect again, I have no direct knowledge of this But I suspect that all of that data is not being just used for that Specific one app But also to better and further the capabilities of deep mind as an ai or now I don't know all the details either but deep mind Says this was used for this app and this app alone. We were providing direct care And that's why we're relying on that particular argument is that we didn't use this for anything else We weren't programming alpha go with this data. We were using it simply for streams and streams alone I I mean The little knowledge I have of artificial intelligence I wouldn't be surprised if the the the teachings they get from that ai Is applied somewhere else, right? It's better their understanding It's one thing to say we used a 1.6 million patient records to train streams And now streams is an app that's working and now we can take streams And say hey something we learned about with streams we can apply over here As long as you're not taking the patient records and putting it on say alpha go I don't think you're crossing that boundary Yeah, maybe not but what I was trying to say is it benefits deep mind In other ways that are also certainly certainly It's not like it was just oh, we just use the data for streams And I don't think anyone's concerned about that. I think they're concerned is are those patient records going to be exposed Anywhere else if if I think if you asked 1.6 million patients with some exceptions I think most of them would say If all my data was used for was to train streams and then it was deleted And nobody at deep mind ever looked at my data ever saw my data It was just run through the processor and then deleted immediately if I could be sure of that And it's helping prevent An estimated 40 000 deaths in the uk a year or at least 25 percent They're saying this can help prevent 25 percent of those 40 000 deaths a year from from aki Then i'm fine with that But I don't think it's a big it's a big question to say If I if I'm sure Because I think that's where people get upset is like yeah, but how can I be sure? How can I be sure nobody looked at that data? How can I be sure there's not a copy of it sitting around somewhere? That that they forgot to protect That's that's why the law is there not to keep them from using it in this way But to keep it from being put in a position where it could accidentally or intentionally maliciously be used for something else So yeah, I mean, I'm not a hundred percent sure everyone would say it's okay or even a majority, but Maybe that's How it works on my side of the of the pond I'm saying if they could be sure like I'm saying a big thing like if they said all your data is going to be used for No person will ever see it, but it will help save lives The most people would be okay with that But I think most people will also be skeptical that that's possible Maybe maybe um, but I think you know That's a hypothetical just as it would be a hypothetical that we could even ask those 1.6 million people To give their consent. I mean if you if you have a box to take when you're Taking the information or you know a box to take to say I don't want it to be used maybe But that data is already there and you're not going to go back and contact everyone and ask them Is it okay? I mean you could but your response rate is going to be so low You're not going to get the big data set that you want Which not only do you want it? But you also need it and that's you know the flip side of the thing we were talking earlier That you absolutely do need it to make those Those algorithms capable of we're not talking about you know recognizing kittens in pictures here. We're talking about some Potentially very efficient Care and prevention Products yeah, and you do need that data and since you can't really go and ask people for all of their permissions It's not I don't think it's realistic in this case What do you do? Do you Actually try and and make that ai go faster and and create the products that can help people Faster or do you say you know the it's just a different Kind of not just expectations, but a different kind of rules that or Way of thinking about it because I think there's a couple things you could do one is you can Make this a standard Patient option to say can my data be used in research, right? Like you say you're not going to get everybody to do it But you could start now and maybe that maybe that's like organ donation, right? Maybe that starts enough people thinking about it, but I think more importantly you establish a much more Rigid or not rigid, but rigorous Supervisory system for this kind of data where it can be used without permission right now You have an exception for direct care because people say oh well that makes sense I shouldn't have to go find out permission for direct care. I think you need a new system You need a new exception that says all right if someone is making an app That is going to only be used for medical purposes and is he has passed a review that says yes This is significant. It could save a lot of lives Then that data can be used by a company under the Supervision of this board or whatever that that that makes sure that that data is not being misused because I think the weakness here That deep mind is suffering is not that they did anything wrong or that they did anything bad It's that no one can be sure what they did, right? You just have to trust them that they didn't do it and people want more than trust They want verification when it comes to their medical records Yeah, I okay. I think that's reasonable just the simplest thing could be to just add another exception just like the direct care exception where and you have Someone who or committee that oversees it and in that case you can use it Then you have checks that are put in place a little bit more administration, but probably I mean I'm siding with you because I know the importance of Protecting data but I kind of trust that they're not going to use that data for anything nefarious and It's terrible, but even if they did this seems like too important work to be bucked down by And I can't believe I'm the one saying this the you know, the socialist french guy But it seems like in this case administration and rules would would slow things down a little bit too much, but Uh, yeah, I mean it's to me. It's always about not what deep mind would do But what would another company that isn't right, okay in that case? I completely okay, uh We finally found rapprochement across the Atlantic Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit you can submit stories of vote on him at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com Big jim wrote in in our slack regarding the rumor from ben yesterday What was in rumor ben said he noticed a truck headed up towards redmond with a pilot Label and michigan plates and he's like hey, is that some kind of car tech headed to microsoft Well, big jim says Pilot transport is a common carrier across the united states highly unlikely that ford would use them to be sending something up Uh, that pilot doesn't mean autopilot. Most companies register the tractors and trailers in their incorporated state Uh, that's why so many trucks are from iowa and oklahoma in indiana as those states have large truck fleets based there But the equipment may only rarely go into that state based on load volume and demand So just because it had michigan plates doesn't mean that that truck ever was in michigan, uh to be honest So big jim says sorry to burst a bubble there, but he does work in logistics. So he he knows from shipping Uh, so it may not have been anything Thank you very much big jim for ruining it for everyone Saying there's a chance Uh, thank you patrick beija. 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It's just um Mind the data gap Get it Swipe into core doing business at twitter Pirates month's disney's booty Oh Pirates of the Pirates of the Caribbean pirate ship leaking no one cares Man, you guys are hot today. We got lots of good stuff in here. HTC's new squeeze There's a whole HTC vein down at the bottom of this thing Amazon's 4k fire sale Main HTC's main squeeze HTC HTC is feeling the squeeze literally HTC's oh, wait, that's another new squeeze squeeze ability putting the squeeze on phones easy peasy HTC I like pirates of the pirates of the Caribbean Pirates became the pirated pirates releasing many tales easy peasy HTC squeezy I like all of them I know I like too many of them. Okay. Go vote. Hurry. Hurry vote show about that tv Go do it now bubble some good ones up to the top before my level lighting is done bubble them bubble bubble toil and trouble Fire burn and titles bubble I I uh put the link in the chat just to make it even easier. Excellent. I mean it was up like three Here's the problem audacity, uh updated recently and it's really fast at importing now So it doesn't give me as much time Tell you what I will wait to add the title until I edit the id3 tags I usually do it in the audacity export, but this this way will give a little more time Patrick Beja was on the show. Yes, that's me You were on the show I'm editing the rest of the id3 tags right now. That's why I'm Telling you things you already know Royale Deluxe Because I know it entertains you that's why I do it And I appreciate it All right, so would have got pirates of the pirates of the caribbean shot to the top. That's interesting Yes, your question. I have a question for our very smart audience. Okay my core i7 What is it 49? Wait? uh core i7 47 90 Has idle temperature of around 60 degrees sometimes 50 degrees 60 around 50 sometimes it goes down to 40 No celsius celsius. Okay. Good. No, that's why and and I worry that that's too much Under load it goes up to like 80 sometimes higher And I wonder if you want to be able to boil water there Yeah And I have like a really good radiator like with heat pipes and and stuff And I think I might need to put some um Thermal paste on there to change it or something because I think it's too hot, but do you think it's too hot? Your your processor Yeah What what which which which the model number on it? Uh 47 90. Oh, that's why I 7 Is it is it a k or not? It's not a k Krug says that's within spec, but he wants to know how old the system is It's three years old I think I'm wondering if it's not the the the windows installed because it was I changed the Motherboard and cpu and graphics card and everything Without being installing windows. So I'm wondering if there aren't some try try k is is it is a side panel easily removable from your case Yes, try running it without that panel on to see if it drops Um Because then you can figure out whether or not it's just there's not enough air moving out Of the case or if there's something actually Like what the thermal paste or something on the chip? Okay Because I have a I have a thermal like because I have the same chip you do except it's a k And I run it with one of those. I'm not thermal take but um Um No, it's a thermal Thermal take is a thermal take cool gauge. It's like cute. It's like 140 millimeter Um radiated with a fan 140 millimeter fan on it Well, the reason I got it because it was on sale and I needed something quiet All right. Well, you think of that The titles at the top now are mind the data gap Pirates of the pirates of the caribbean Easy peasy htc squeezy. I like that one and uk mines deeply I like anything with easy peasy Is patrick, which one do you like? um well I usually like the title to be about the Main topic but um I kind of like pirates of the pirates of the caribbean See and I like mind the data gap because it's about the topic so I guess the tiebreaker will be the nine votes the pirates of the pirates of the caribbean gets boom There you go And the others will get honorable mentions And it's your your coolers are pretty like one of those aftermarket big ones that uh That you really have to crank down On the on the chip Um Is it a cool it's not it's not from uh, it's not a cooler master Uh, I think it might be a cooler cooler master I can't remember. I never remember if it's a thermal take or cooler master I remember my cooler master was kind of odd to put on I had to re-put it on once because I was Because I don't want to have to uh to you know, uh Remove the entire panel every time I do it so it doesn't actually screw in from the back It it just you like you It's a plastic thing that you push into the motherboard's uh screw hole and it clips to it And so I do worry a little bit that it's not well in place enough But um screw hole That thing oh, it's and it's not an art to cooler Okay, wait, I found I Yeah, it is a cooler master Hyper tx 3 evo protects It's relatively cheap, but it's enormous tech cooler evo evo just tx 3 evo See I haven't seen one of these Oh, I see he has little plungers Yeah on it Oh interesting. So that's oh, it's that's that's a very curious design You basically don't need a bracket is Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah Um, yeah, I haven't I haven't used one of these in a while It's and you when is you just put it together or you just noticed the the high temperatures recently No, it's I think it's been high for a while. Um, it just doesn't you know the the The Fan sort of goes crazy every once in a while and I started using a A piece of software that tells you the temperature A monitor there you go Krug says three years should be fine for the tim unless the system got really cold at some point What's the tim? thermal Uh, I think the the thermal interface material. Yeah. Yeah, that's okay. Uh, which is oh So maybe it got really cold and so the thermal paste might have Because you did you bring it by car and Uh-huh. Uh-huh last year. Oh wait a minute when you moved it. Did you take the cooler off? Or did you leave it on? I think I left it on So what happens and this is what I was worried about when I moved my pc And I took my cooler off is with some of the aftermarket coolers They're kind of heavy and so they pull a little bit when they get jostled So you might have to pop it off Clean off the thermal paste and when you reapply it don't When you apply it just put a dot in the middle Like just a pea-sized dot because when you put it down the the pressure force should spread it all over I know. Yeah. Yeah. So okay. Maybe that might be it. I'm I'm gonna try and do that I need to get some thermal paste and And I mean you were going to get some for yourself just because you're living in Finland, right? Exactly cover yourself Exactly. So I need some anyway so Yeah, I'm going to do that because I got you know, I got a new SSD I figured I'm going to do windows reinstall. Maybe I can do everything at this I had to do that. My machine was acting so wonky and then I realized it's just because I updated from Windows 7 to 8 South like a software update and then from 8 to 8.1 and then from 8.1 to 10 And it was just so cluttered. Yeah, that for me it's yeah Same thing. Yeah, my pc wouldn't shut down like it would everything would turn off except it would the computer was still running But it was it, you know, it's been running surprisingly well with windows 10 I went from 8 this was a windows 8 install And as I said, I changed the motherboard the cpu The everything and upgraded to 10 and it still Runs, you know, pretty well like this is my production machine. I do everything on it and it runs. Okay So I'll tell you a really dirty lie or not a dirty lie dirty thing. I did so one of my The motherboard I originally had in here was a was an old Core 2 quad so back from like 2008 And something the processor the board fried so I had to replace everything So I got a brand new motherboard and they got a 4790 k And I didn't do anything with the install I just Plugged everything back and I turned it on and I let windows kind of figure a thing out. That's what I did It worked fine for 10 months and then it started getting really frizzy and then my video card died and I'll just reinstall everything. Yeah Probably needed but I'm surprised how well it works given, you know, all of the all of its history All right playing pray No, I tried the demo for like half an hour and it didn't really grab me Yeah, it's it's it's definitely bio it's it's bio shocking space right And it is like the the the beginning is really The surprising They they manage the that intro pretty well But still I was like, okay, you know, I have other things Other games to play So there's an ad for the last Jedi in japan That has some red text along the side that's loosely translated as The most startling truth in star wars history will soon be revealed Spoiler although the word for truth could also be interpreted as reveal Well, the most startling reveal in star wars history will soon be revealed Wait a minute. Is that mark hamill be prizing his rose lukes guy walker. Yeah, maybe that's I don't think that's very startling though Um, I'm gonna go. All right. Yes. We're all gonna go. Thanks everyone for watching