 What is up, what is up, what is up for what was meant to be an uneventful night sure felt far from it or uneventful night at least in terms of trading somehow did not feel like it. I want to let people pile up in here for a minute before we get going, but we're live man. We got fancy graphics tonight and everything we were presented by Fandall and Fandall Sportsbook here. We're going to be talking about everything in the draft and there's obviously a whole lot more going on in the NBA other than just guys getting drafted tonight because I mean how do we not start with it because it's the most impactful news of the night. Clay Thompson. I don't mean to start negative here but the first thing I thought when I saw that happen was what if this happened tomorrow what if Clay Thompson supposedly it's that the injury has to do something that's drastic with his Achilles and if it's as bad as we think it is what happens to the Warriors playing tonight and what they're going to do with that pick if this injury happens tomorrow did this happening when it did change the next foreseeable future of the NBA because it's certainly possible if you think about it that way they don't have clay Thompson they're not winning the title we can all agree on that but do they take James Wiseman do they trade down do they dump Andrew Wiggins to the next who want to move up like all of those questions may have gone out the window the moment that they heard this news was really bad. I don't know like it supposedly as bad as it gets and there is no injury worse in terms of people coming back from it and being a shadow of their old selves like an Achilles injury so we're certainly all praying for him and I hope it's it's not as bad as it sounds but I mean that changed this whole tanking coup that the Warriors were taking the year off and getting ready for revenge season without Clay Thompson coming back I don't know what the plan is to be honest with you I really don't are we just trotting out that same team that would make because if you have an Achilles injury that is a year minimum that you're gonna miss that will go two and a half years by the time Clay Thompson is back between when he last played his most recent game in the finals against Toronto all the way to his debut at the beginning of next season if he's ready by that if he's ready by that point that's two and a half years man oh my god I really hope it's not as bad as them then make it seem because Lord knows he came back from it but look you know what we're here to talk about the draft I do have your guys comments up here as well so we get all these fancy graphics look at that I even got a lower third going on here that clay Thompson suffers lower leg injury you see that going on I can see all of your comments across YouTube twitch Facebook and Twitter right now so I will do my best to get to each and every single one of you guys who want to talk about this but we're here to we're here to discuss everything I've got my John Stark shirt on tonight it is Starks the Dunk it is a night to celebrate for the New York Knicks it's a night to celebrate because for the first time in a long time and put out a tweet a little bit earlier but it needs to be reminded that this Nick's team has done things so poorly in the past when they gave Alan Houston that five-year extension or whatever the hell it came out to be that deal hurt the NBA and hurt New York so bad that the NBA had to create the amnesty clause to keep the Knicks from being the Knicks just in case you sign a terrible contract we will give you a way out of it they didn't do that tonight when they signed Joe Kim over the three-year deal or they move up in a draft to get a pick that they could have gotten later that's the Knicks that we've known what feels like for the past 10 years and not only do they get their guy who they were thinking about trading up for an OB top and to get up to four to go grab him they instead wait and they get him anyway in addition to that they trade the 20 suppose at 27 and 38th pick earlier today to the Utah Jazz to move up to 23 and then they take that 23rd pick and trade it for 25 and 33 right after it I'm sorry I was yeah 27 and 38 or something regardless they move both of those picks up by just making a trade with the Utah Jazz what team is this it's not the New York Knicks of old and granted they're the Knicks they're gonna stink regardless because you still need players out there but we're doing things that fans have been begging the franchise to do now for two decades very small baby steps the bar is extremely low with us New York Knicks fans okay so fact that we're doing something right we're building through the draft and we're building assets in the moment is something inexplicable okay so let us have this let us have this people okay talking about OB top and I mean we got Emmanuel quickly too and Emmanuel quickly is known as kind of a tweener right he's not that true point guard that the Knicks haven't had since Charlie Ward a little unknown fact about your New York Knicks by the way who was the most recent player I just gave away the answer but Charlie Ward is the most recent Knicks player to get a rookie extension deal from the franchise Charlie Ward guys point guard name me the Knicks best point guard since then is it Stefan Marbury at the end of his career Raymond Felton Chris Duhan the Knicks haven't had a point guard in two decades which is just an unfathomable statement but it's believable with this team now quickly is not a true point guard but it man did shoot almost 43% from three point land so if he's a tweener needs he could be on the ball a little bit and make those threes from the distance you got to start somewhere give us a little bit of hope man for once you feel the light at the end of the tunnel for the Knicks and they're building something around the likes of Mitchell Robinson Frank Nillikian I don't know what's gonna happen with Kevin Knox but when you have quickly and topping and bear it there are just names on top of names here that the Knicks can build a foundation on someone in the comments just said I'll be topping equals Aaron Gordon you know what the Knicks would be thankful if he turns into Aaron Gordon I know Aaron Gordon's a little overpaid right now I understand that but Aaron Gordon is a fine ceiling for a man the Knicks just drafted at eight was the last time the Knicks had a player like Aaron Gordon RJ Hampton so RJ Hampton the Denver Nuggets do this thing all right he's not even on my he's not even on our list right here on the side on the on the here I'll point this way RJ Hampton falls all the way down Denver but we've seen Denver Connolly the general manager manager there go with bowl bowl in the past with broken foot when nobody wanted him they go with Michael Porter Jr. take him when no one wanted him with his back this Denver Nuggets team is built to win right now and they got seven to eight guys that could start on this team no matter what and because they are so NBA championship ready they can take the time to develop and wait for the bowl bowls and the Michael Porter juniors and hell RJ Hampton isn't even injured yeah he's probably going to take some time to develop there but his ceiling is as high as anybody it feels like in that top 10 so maybe in a couple of years we'll be looking back and adding RJ Hampton to that Mount Rushmore of bowl bowls and Michael Porter juniors and those guys that the Denver Nuggets find in the draft that nobody else wants they kind of built a reputation on that I know they traded Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert but they got Yolkich back right so we'll see how that goes yeah you know what Halliburton seems in comments about Halliburton falling so far it really felt there it felt like there for a moment that Halliburton was just gonna fall right into the Spurs hands and granted I'm never gonna doubt anything that the Spurs do but sitting there like are you really gonna let the Spurs get this man a guy who's as experienced as the college players anybody out there in terms of credentials and tenure like he's the ready-made spur but the problem is they have the John DeMurray Derek White and Patty Mills waiting in front of him so what exactly we're gonna do with him I'm gonna put him off the ball I think Halliburton is meant to be a point guard in this league but maybe we'll see what's different in Sacramento because De'Aaron Fox is gonna be on the ball there and you better believe Halliburton is gonna be begging trying to find wise ways to get it with that team the way it's built again I'm reading your questions guys if you just see me looking to the left side of the screen here not saying anything it's because I am waiting to answer your guys questions tonight I'll tell you everything that I know we have certain trades to talk about as well I mean we have Al Horford if you're a Philadelphia 76ers fan the 180 that this team has done from just throwing the dice hoping to land on Snake Eyes with Elton Brand as the leader of your front office what a breath of fresh air it is to get Daryl Maury that finds a way to not only dump Al Horford's contract which was a massive burden for the next three years that's gonna open up some cash space going into next season as well this team it felt like had no way to make a move how much money that they gave the Horford Simmons and Bede and Tobias Harris how on earth are we ever supposed to improve this team and all it cost you was a very future first-round pick in 2025 Lord knows what the NBA is gonna look like then you give away a second round pick you get someone to take Horford and oh by the way you get Danny Green who I know he's the king of memes and jokes with the Los Angeles Lakers the guys a champion is a 3 and D guy and you stack as many of these winged dudes as possible with Terence Ferguson and Danny Green if Matisse Thiebel is not ready to start and make that corner 3 at 30 at 40 plus percent Danny Green you can plug him right in there right away go with a lineup of Simmons Josh Richardson Danny Green Tobias Harris and Joellen Bede all of a sudden that offense does not feel and smell like a clogged toilet so Daryl Maury in his first action as the front office leader of the Philadelphia 76ers at least in my mind gets a big W and I don't know what Sam Presti plans on doing with all these draft picks unless he is gonna open up a store and sell them like he's been hawking stuff off of the sneakers app he's coming in their shop around and see which see which pick that you want to overpay for it's possible and someone's gonna walk in there and do it but at some point you got to put players on your team right they are in full rebuild mode and he's kind of set in the set in the precedent for how to properly do it and get ready for the future and just as I say it thank you guys this is why I waited until the second round to do this thank you to the comment section for let me know Josh Richardson is we have a is it a wodge bomb or shams bomb either way Josh Richardson after all this hype that I just put you into the starting line with Daryl Maury is now on his way to the Dallas Mavericks can someone tell me what it's for I'm trying to do a show here so someone put the details in the comment section of what just happened Dallas is sending Seth Curry in the trade to the 76ers so now it's clear that Philadelphia recognizes their need for shooting Josh Richardson gave you that defense but if you've got in bead Tobias Danny Green out there they're willing to sacrifice Josh Josh Richardson who cannot spread the floor like Seth Curry can Daryl Maury is coming in there and we're playing the three out three as in a pun meaning we're shooting threes we're also keeping guys on the perimeter here and we'll let Simmons and Embiid do their thing with space but if you have Danny Green Tobias Harrison Seth Curry out there Simmons and Embiid are going to have yards of space Seth Curry again going to the 76ers here in real time Seth Curry look at all those comments appreciate you guys that's a lot of Seth Curry's in a row and if all right if you're the Dallas Mavericks who set historical records by the way they made history with offensive efficiency you can spare someone like Seth Curry that might as well put on one of those Matador hats and have a red cape on defense Seth Curry is a bucket from three-point land he's wet as wet as can be I like it for both teams I still haven't seen a bad trade yet to be honest with you that checks the box for both teams because you put Josh Richardson in there you don't have the Courtney Lee that you thought you can use him and maybe plug a little defense in there who on that Dallas Mavericks team is playing defense for as good as Luca Donchich is who's playing defense on that team Josh Richardson surely is Tim are always not when number six comes back he hardly plays any defense out there could move for both teams at least on the surface until we see some picks involved or something and by the way now that you're bringing up the Bogdan Bogdan Donovich deal is really weird there's two things that are going to happen here with this guys so we get the we get the woach bomb the other night about he's Bogdan has done a sign-in trade to go to Milwaukee and I knew at the time I'm sitting here like I'm sitting here like can you are you allowed to sign anybody right now I thought we were still in a moratorium period can you technically do restricted free agency sign-in trades and I still don't know if the answer to that is yes but apparently someone was not very happy about it because now we're backpedaling a little bit and since that news got out into the open I have a couple of theories as to what happened here that Bogdan Bogdanovic's agent sees that and he goes excuse me that was not meant to go public because we can't technically sign yet so if you want this guy guess what now you got to give us some more money we're not taking the deal just because it was a verbal agreement that was not supposed to get out that could have happened the Milwaukee Bucks could potentially be hit with tampering violations if they're not allowed to talk to Bogdan before the moratorium is lifted in free agency free agents can technically be signed so all of a sudden he's saying he's going to go out there and he's going to be sent offer sheets which can be matched by the Sacramento Kings ultimately he may end up back with Milwaukee it could be his agent squeezing out some more dollars from Milwaukee saying you really want this guy you put the press out there about it you're gonna have to pay up for him now you got to offer him some more money if it's possible because it is a sign-in trade even if you are over the cap if I'm his agent that's exactly what I'm doing so he may ultimately end up there but it felt like a lot of the backpedaling done tonight was to cover the fact that the Milwaukee Bucks were potentially tampering in talking to Bogdan of each during a moratorium period that technically was not allowed that's just my personal opinion that's not a fact that's just what I think is going on here so he may ultimately end up there but it's just weird how we're going to get to the finish line I looked down I looked down after giving you that rant about Bogdan and the first comment is about Doc Doc's daughter in Seth Curry like yeah so Doc Doc Rivers is gonna be coaching his son-in-law Cali Rivers is married to Seth Curry but let's not act like that's weird because Doc Rivers was just coaching Paul George who broke up and allegedly had other relations with someone not named Cali Rivers so that's not as weird as the Paul George situation what other trades I mean gosh at this point what other trades out there happen tonight that we need to talk about it all just blends together so quickly and I got lost in the euphoria of the Knicks making moves you know but the top of the draft there that you guys see with Anthony Edwards at the top James Wiseman I mean at some point the Golden State Warriors we're gonna have to address the fact that Kavan Luni is being thrown out there running 40 plus minutes a night for what feels like the last half decade he is a run-down car that's getting 10 cents on the dollar and if you're gonna build around anything in the future there James Wiseman yeah it feels like I can't miss in terms of potential and exactly what the Warriors need because other than Kavan Luni who exactly are we ever going to put at center Wiseman doesn't fit into the death line of small ball type deal but those days seem kind of over so Edwards was a good pick because the Angelo Russell still plays point guard last time I checked and there's only one ball on the court so I don't need Lamello ball out there with D'Angelo at the same time D'Angelo and Cat need to be running the high usage so by the time Lamello falls down to three you better buy I mean you better draft relevancy if you can't buy it or trade for it and the Charlotte Hornets got relevancy tonight they probably got to do with the highest ceiling not named James Wiseman and just for content purposes I need LaVar ball miked up sitting next to Michael Jordan after all that calling out that he did that he could beat him one-on-one I need that I need that I need LaVar ball back in my life if it involves Michael Jordan and shout out to him by the way because after all of the shenanigans that he did though through all those years yeah to a lot of people got really annoying but at the end of the day he got his two kids not named Leangelo who's coming up through the system but he got Lonzo you got the two main prospects Lonzo and Lamello drafted second and third granted a lot of that has to do with their basketball ability yeah I totally get it but whatever he did eight there's you put a period at the end of the sentence that LaVar ball got his kids drafted second and third and I'm sure he is pretty damn proud of that so I got to respect him for as much flak as he took as much noise as he made that was always ultimately the goal with this man and tonight I think he finally realized he got it so congratulations on the side of the screen you guys see actual selection at draft position so what these odds tell you is what Anthony Edwards going first overall paid out so he was favored the closing line at minus 260 you bet 10 you win four bucks for a grand total of 14 there's a minus there on the top three because what that tells you is a lot of chalk it the top of the draft went as it was supposed to go the first major surprise is Patrick Williams Florida State going to Chicago at number four and there was a moment there that I think a lot of us were thinking are they about to trade Wendell Carter to Golden State because that that made a lot of sense and if I'm Golden State I'm running to do that no matter how far I have to trade down because Wendell Carter is really good but after the Clay Thompson news dropped I think they just said we're taking Weisman and Soviet but Obi-Tapin going to the Knicks there at 8 and plus 570 guys Obi-Tapin was not meant to fall that far so if you're a Knicks fan and you're sitting here like we hit we hit something that was 20 percent not 20 it's more like 30% was supposed to actually happen and the Knicks were thinking about trading up in this draft don't forget that what other trades happen tonight quick note on the Bogdan the Bogdan thing by the way I've spoken about it with what happened with Drew Holiday because they traded three first-round picks they've traded a couple swaps when you have Yana Santana Kubon that team you got to find a way to get Bogdan in-house if that's what he wants if Yana says go out and get him again no matter what it takes when you have one of the five best players on planet Earth that can just his mere presence guarantees you a shot at the title just having Yana's in uniform guarantees you a shot at the title you do everything in your power to make sure he gets what he wants and you go above and beyond even if that means overpaying for Drew Holiday because if you want a Drew Holiday you're not just getting Drew Holiday you're getting Yana Santana Kubon a sign ink on the dotted line for an extension and that is worth 10 15 years worth of picks yeah I forgot about Rubio going to the Timberwolves so he's back in uniform there I don't know he's probably got to be coming off the bench right you're not starting him over D'Angelo you're not playing him with D'Angelo because you want D'Angelo on the ball Ricky Rubio can't shoot so you're not having in-play shooting guard look fat that felt like more of a salary dump from OKC but at least they did him a favor like okay Ricky Rubio has run into some terrible luck of just being either drafted or traded to teams that always seems not need him put it that way what else you guys want to talk about so someone just said Rubio going back to Minnesota James Johnson got to be got to be going to send to OKC in that trade right I think OKC is in the business of we will take any we will take any expiring contract that you want or we'll take we're playing for the future here so I think they're trying to assemble as many draft assets as possible to get ready for 2021 which is the draft I mean they're gonna want to be involved with that number one or number two pick with the guys that are coming out next year so if we have 17 picks you can't resist us if we trade you 17 picks for that number one any other trades Calvin you want to throw up on the list there I'll leave it up to you I got a producer tonight guys who's handling all the graphics for me what's the Clippers plan what's what's Detroit's plan first of all I wasn't kidding they're gonna have to put cheddar Bob and be rabbit into uniform the way they're headed you guys know who's on that team right now other than their draft picks tonight it's just Blake Griffin and Tony Snell if he picks up his option because Luke Conard's gone Luke Conard is on his way to Los Angeles that was super weird trade by the way that was something I felt like nobody won because why does Brooklyn need Landry Shamit when you're bringing back Joe Harris and you're gonna have to overpay for him Landry Shamit is not good enough to be out there with Joe Harris at the same time so you traded the pick for that granny doesn't make that much money so I can understand at least that and then you're swapping Landry Shamit for Luke Conard I guess I don't know that's just a weird trade man what's the is do the Pistons have a plan for Blake I always thought the Pistons were gonna be the sneaky team in play to get Russell Westbrook and just pair them with Blake Griffin even though that makes no sense because I don't have anybody on the team we might as well just take Westbrook and sell the fact that we have Blake Griffin and Russell Westbrook we have the greatest team from 2013 of all time we got two MVP candidates in 2013 through 2015 like they could still take they could still take on Russell Westbrook at this point but I don't think you can trade Blake Griffin and consider him to be an asset who's gonna take on Blake Griffin at that deal making almost 40 million dollars a year and give you back something that you want no they're gonna take on that contract because it's a liability and you're gonna give them incentive to the Pistons just drafted someone named Saber Lee I don't know who that is what is this team doing this team is a walking improv SNL skit so thank you someone just said Brandon Knight earns the second most amount of money on the Pistons right now technically that's all you need to know about the Pistons they're still paying Brandon Knight after he got dunked into Middle Earth by Deandre Jordan they're still paying his insurance policy on that have I addressed the Kings yet and the answer to that is no because I don't know what we can do about the Kings until they move either Harrison Barnes or Buddy Heald now that you have Halliburton there it feels like Buddy Heald's got it you got to move him right you're not putting a lineup out there it's the Aaron Fox Halliburton Buddy Heald Harrison Barnes what are we doing here one of those two guys has to go and nobody's taken Harrison Barnes so you're gonna dangle Buddy Heald to the Denver Nuggets who have been dying to add that one piece that makes them a legitimate contender with the Lakers in the Clippers they need that one guy everyone's like let's get Bradley Beale let's get Bradley Beale it was Drew Holiday for a little bit you're not paying what it took Milwaukee to get Drew Holiday so maybe they can get Buddy Heald for half as much you package something around Will Barton and you bring in Buddy Heald that would be my guess as to where he's headed but this Kings team does not feel like a squad that is going to start the season as currently constructed because we don't even know what's going on with Bogdanovich at this point have already talked about Okoro to the Cavs I haven't because I don't know enough about Okoro himself but you knew the Cavs weren't I'm sorry let me let me take a step back here I I'm wondering how long is the leash on Darius Garland and Colin Sexton and yeah it's gonna be a little bit more because they're still both on their rookie deals but I think anyone watching the Cavs can kind of realize are these two guys gonna be the focal points of a championship team within the next five years my bet would probably be no on that so they took a guard tonight I would start to think that you know what maybe we don't believe in these guys but since they did go forward and didn't use that pick to take a star guard to compete and replace one of those two potentially in a future pick Okoro suggests to you that they're moving on with those two so while I can't speak to Okoro's what his impact on the league is going to be it was a sign to me that Garland and Sexton's leash lasts at least another season I was kind of curious how far Okong would fall and him landing with the Hawks is so weird by the way because Capella's there did we forget Clint Capella's already there if you're gonna bring in a shop locker how you gonna run him with him is he gonna back up Clint Capella I don't know we'll see have I address the rockets no but thank you for bringing that up so they make that trade Robert Covington for Trevor reason some picks and you're like well Trevor reasons not as good as Robert Covington but maybe he can he's been there before he can just be a 3 and D guy then they moved Trevor reason tonight so Rockets fans are sitting here going all right you did this because now you're under the tax if you don't use that entire mid-level exception we're gonna have problems here because why the hell did we just take trade Robert Covington for nothing why are we keeping Hardin and Westbrook if we just traded his best wing defender and three 3 and D guy not named PJ Tucker why did we do that if you're not gonna spend that money so this means one of two things for me they are in full tank rebuild mode is one way or the other is they're gonna use that mid-level exception I would love to see them go after go after it use that on a shooter maybe bring it maybe have Westbrook and Hardin ring up their old buddy Serge Abaka who's gonna be a free agent they don't have any rim protectors they're still constructed to do the small ball from the Mori days and now that they don't have Robert Covington they're gonna need someone to protect the damn rim at some point so what is that mid-level exception under the tax going to be used on are they just gonna sit on it and do nothing because that would suggest Hardin Westbrook are on their way out but all signs are pointed to Houston saying we're not giving them up unless it's a Godfather offer so they we need to see what they do with that MLA first hello there someone just asked him I answer in questions to I'm picking from YouTube twitch I wish I could turn the camera and show you all that I got going on right now but I see all of your guys questions here I'm trying to bounce between as many as possible there's a question comment about Cole Anthony so Mo Bamba went on Twitter and said hey Cole once you're done once you're done crying fly down to Orlando I'll pick you up let's get to work I can't think of a place that Cole Anthony I went to North Carolina I hope he does well but I can't name a worse place for him to go to after watching what he did for the Tar Heels this season let me explain a little bit Cole Anthony is a little guy compared to everyone else on that NBA court not not compared to you and me but everyone else out there he is severely undersized he thrives in transition getting up and down the court why do you think Roy Williams recruited him because that's all Carolina does is run the floor it is point guard University and you just drafted him to the slowest team in the NBA when you have a bunch of Chuckers in Vusevich Aaron Gordon Terence Ross and did I mention they're the slowest team in the league in terms of pace and he's gonna be trapped behind Markel Foltz who you have to play because he's still on his $15 million a year rookie deal and he's gonna have to get paid at some point so you better see what he's getting you can get out of him I would have loved to see Cole Anthony go anywhere else but Orlando hopefully he proves me wrong what do I think of Sam Presti I think he is the golem of NBA draft picks I think you thought Danny Andrews bad he's like Schmeigel Sam Presti is golem I propose the can I see keep seeing questions about harden harden harden Rockets I know we're doing a draft right now but harden harden in Rockets I choose the nuclear option the chaos option introduce a little anarchy I don't have a gun like the Joker to put in front of the camera but remember when he hands Harvey Dent the gun says introduce a little anarchy everything becomes chaos if I am the Houston Rockets I'm not trading you James Harden Brooklyn unless you take Russell Westbrook to take them both because it's possible I'm not trading James Harden unless you give me an all-star Kara Slavert is coming too but Kara Slavert is not an all-star I have a guy who arguably should be a three-time reigning MVP you're I'm not training him unless you give me Kyrie Irving give me Kyrie Irving Kara Slavert DeAndre Jordan and Spencer Dinwiddy and that'll match the contracts trade Jones just went to the Spurs that's the guy who I wanted the Knicks to get what are the Knicks doing what is what is wrong with Knicks fans by the way what is wrong with some of you people that keeps saying why do we keep drafting power forwards there are no power forwards on the team they all have team options the Knicks have to pick up the options on those guys if they drafted Obi-Tab and the last year's team that had Marcus Morris Bobby Portas Taj Gibson yeah I probably like what the hell are we doing here we don't have power forwards technically on the roster right now Julius Randall's on the roster Mitchell Robinson's a center haven't had a garden 20 point garden 20 years but they took Dunk City of college basketball so you have a Brooklyn kid clearly who had bust his ass to get to this point he grew seven inches between senior year and freshman year in college so he was a late bloomer he was not recruited like many of these other guys he busted his ass to get up to where he finished the Dayton he's a New York born and bred guy who's clearly emotional that he gets to play for the New York Knicks which is a big deal for a lot of the tri-state area guys that grow up here in the in the area you have a guy that casually drops windmills and through the legs dunk stirring games you do that in the garden granted there's probably not going to be a crowd but when there is you're doing that in the garden that that is going to blow up the internet it's going to blow up sports center because it's then just because it's the Knicks and it's in the garden the Knicks went out there and got a playmaker they got a highlight maker and they got a guy who's gonna fight in the trenches because he's from New York he's gonna leave it all out on the court some things that haven't been done in the past that's disrespect someone just said Obi this is why when I look at the comments Obi Obi is Kirkland brand Zion Williamson you know what I'm fine with that I like Kirkland stopping shop Zion fine by me fine by me I like the stopping shop brand anyway side of the screen here guys we have the updated odds from Fandall and Fandall sports book the Lakers are still your favorites of plus 330 the Milwaukee Bucks probably are they the best bet on the board considering there's the seven with Bogdanovich yeah they're probably worth the plus 500 meaning they pay out five to one without Bogdanovich I don't know what we're doing here and if there was one way to get Mike Budenholzer by the way to play his starters Yannis in Middleton more than 40 minutes I think the front office said we're only gonna give you seven players you have no choice to like that's their strategy here because they're gonna have to fill in a roster with veterans minimums guys that are six seven deep on that roster Nick Young Gilbert Arenas Stefan Marbury pick up the phone because the Bucks are gonna need Brandon Jennings welcome back it's Monte Ellis out there can he play you got a gig with the Milwaukee Bucks my friend can I talk about the Celtics draft in Gordon a word so Celtics fans probably sat there a little frustrated tonight because we have three picks at the end of the first round here we don't have bench spots for them I mean this is a championship contending team that is deep as hell what are we gonna do with these three picks we're gonna send them to Maine play for the Red Claws but why did we not package those and move up and get an instant playmaker on defense why couldn't we move up and get a quandu hopefully I pronounced that right why couldn't we package those three picks and move up to get a shop locker like that or the maybe the kid from Arizona otherwise we're gonna rely a lot on Robert Williams to reach that potential that everyone thinks at least in Boston that he can be he better get there quick because we need to win a championship right now so Danny Ainge keeping these picks and drafting guys and trading down and not moving up for it probably frustrated Boston fans a little bit and the fact that you not only can't package those but Gordon Hayward still in uniform and you extended the you extended the the player option deadline with him through tomorrow and why would that be done I think that would only be done because you wanted to see what you could accomplish in the draft and he already knows he's probably getting moved I'm we're moving that to Thursday by the way because I'm picking up that option regardless of when you move it to Gordon Hayward is getting paid so I'm either getting paid by Boston wherever you trade me to people kept brought bringing up Atlanta as a potential destination there because it would create the biggest trade exception in the NBA if they took Gordon Hayward there and it even wouldn't even require Atlanta to acquire a second round pick to get the trade exception so someone's gonna take on Gordon Hayward I'm hoping actually it's the Knicks for all we know if you're not gonna win a championship give us a big expiring contract we'll give you whatever you want but I think the reason for waiting on the Gordon Hayward thing and not I'm sure they tried to package a pick with him to trade up and anybody out there and no one was that's why it was just really quiet because they just ultimately they just had to pick guys I'm sure they tried to shop them with pics incentive we will give you all of these pics all you have to do is take Gordon Hayward is expiring deal nobody bit maybe the Detroit Pistons should have what happened to Clay Thompson we talked about it at the beginning of the show you guys here are see here on the side of the screen golden states was plus 950 okay they opened when the odds originally opened at Fandle they were 14 to 1 and dropped all the way to 950 because everyone saw the light with this team what the potential with a guy like Weisman coming back and all these guys come back healthy if clay has a rupture to killies oh my god but that's the word on the street and we're gonna have to wait to confirm hoping it's just a heel injury someone said I think the Clippers should have better odds 7-1 you trust the Clippers after after what we just saw in the bubble you trust that we learned from the Clippers it's it's not about having the best 2k roster you got to have stars that have chemistry the Lakers were out there running football plays before tip-off together skipping galloping around high-fiving each other like it was ring around the Rosie and the Clippers voted to go home that's why I'm a little skeptical as to how it can work in Brooklyn their boys but James Harden is not the same James Harden that played off the ball in 2010 with the Thunder that won sixth man of the year this is the this is the MVP James Harden that I'm the alpha here how is that gonna work I don't know hey why did you put the Knicks on the screen Calvin it says the worst odds the New York Knicks plus $25,000 to win the title that's disrespectful you all did that on purpose that's disrespectful we had a really good night I didn't need you to ruin it like that is RJ Hampton the biggest steal of the draft like all other Nuggets picks you're gonna have to wait two years to answer that question because until we saw Michael Porter Jr. two years later Bobo coming off the broken foot you know you can't answer that question we'll see how RJ Hampton gets involved but since Plumlee and Millsap are presumably gone is Bobo gonna step in there to kind of back up Yolk itch can RJ Hampton if you package will Barton into something you're not running will Barton Gary Harris Monte Morris Jamal Murray with RJ went how is RJ Hampton cracking that lineup if Bobo couldn't get in I just don't see it happening this year he'll get the Bobo treatment that he plays in those exhibition games the bulls oh so I brought up buddy healed as a potential Denver nugget Zach Levine is a potential Denver nugget Zach Levine feels like potential Denver nugget it's gonna cost you a lot but the Nuggets have more to spend than anyone out there the Nuggets can package anything they can make any deal work that's why I'm so high on them because they are one piece away from being one of the favorites that how do we get buddy healed or Zach Levine out here how do I feel about the bulls pick at four so let's just say they keep end up keeping Pat Williams and all the other players involved you got Mark and in who's coming to the end of a rookie deal he's falling out of favor because he's also got to get paid so they almost don't want Mark and in to be good before he's owed his extension Mark and in Wendell Carter Hutchinson Chris Dunn's gone where does Pat Williams Phillip fit in here is he gonna play center you got Levine out there Kobe White in the back the back court is set until they trade Levine you brought back Denzel what I was about to say Denzel Washington Denzel Valentine all I know is that Kobe between Kobe Levine Wendell Carter I really like Hutch at the three I want to get more run out of hutch I don't know the bulls are tough man I guess you can get Pat involved there pretty quickly they have so many assets and if they're trying to win games right now I don't know it's a good question man the bulls are in a tricky spot are we just trotting all these young guys out there and we're gonna build like the next do they have the patience for that and by the way we have this guy named Otto Porter Jr. remember him he's the highest paid player on the team and now that he picked up his option he's gonna be an expiring deal we have to run him enough we have to give Otto Porter Jr. enough play time that we can make him look like an asset at the trade deadline that someone will want to acquire we got to get that Otto Porter Jr. back that was given the 25 million dollar plus contract a year because he was lights out from three point land that one year at the Washington wizards we need to showcase that Otto Porter so someone ends up giving us draft picks for him before the trade deadline so that's another item on the checklist which they need to do at some point they got a lot to accomplish how do i think rondo will fit with the clippers i mean if anyone can if anyone can has the attitude i've just shut the hell up in play i think rondo just kind of proved that with the Lakers it can be him yeah Otto hasn't put a jersey on yet man they got a they really need Otto Porter to be a tradeable asset because how great would that be if your chicago bulls fan watching this and you get the same the same way the nix trotted marcus morris out there and they fed him down the stretch of games to close out all those the very few amount of wins that the nix had between october and december were marcus morris closeouts and we ended up getting we the nix ended up getting a first round pick from the clippers grander wasn't that great of a first round pick but he was an expiring contract and they rented a couple months of marcus morris for a first round pick and i think the chicago bulls are going to aim to do that with auto porter jr somebody asked can we respect the sixers again and i got to tell you they were my dark horse to win win the eastern conference last year before ben simmons got hurt but their biggest liability was stretching the floor and unclogging the toilet for joel mb and ben simmons because when you have josh richerson out there nobody respects his three-point shooting ability i love matisse thiebel he's a shadow on defense nobody was respected him all these guys that they kept trying out there unless to buy his hairs was making north of 40 percent from three-point land nobody was making a shot so we're just going to pack the paint we are going to stack the paint with guys and just make it impossible for ben simmons and joel mb to do anything now that josh richerson is gone you replace him with seth curry they can put a lineup out there of ben simmons and joel mb they're the obvious ones right but if we go with the guys we just traded for there's potential that that lineup can go it'll be a little small but it's ben simmons seth curry danie green tobias harris and joel mb that's got three and a half guys that can shoot three pointers i don't want joel mb shooting three pointers but he can if you need him to but you cannot leave danie green in the corner and seth curry in the other corner or tobias harris floating center field those are three knocked down shooters which enables ben simmons and joel mb to continue to do their thing and i understand you give up a little bit of defense but ben simmons is one of if not the best two-way player in the league that can guard positions one through five kawaii Leonard is probably still number one but we're talking about a potential defensive player of the year here that can guard your point guard your shooting guard your small forward all the way up to center he can guard the towel boy he can guard the water boy he can guard who's ever sitting in the damn suite ben simmons is an insane two-way player so i'm not so worried about losing josh richerson's defense because if ben simmons plays to his potential he can more than make up for it on an individual basis with matisse the eyeball coming off the bench and not being asked to run 30 minutes anything else you guys want to talk about any other trades that i've missed so far the boston celtics just selected yam madar madar and number 47 i'm a little frustrated if i'm a celtics fan right now because i want this i want this uh gordon hayward situation resolved kemba's name was getting thrown around i don't know the legitimacy of that all those rumors by the way guys that we just read i can't put any stock in these damn rumors because when you see something pop on twitter or social media and his sources say of course the source by the way is always anonymous but the sources say that the warriors and the bulls are talking about this deal or the celtics are talking about trading kemba walker for drew holiday do you understand who is giving that information to the reporter that is either an agent or a front office executive with an agenda so if they're not willing to put their name on the report they are trying to put information out into the world that gives them leverage every single one of those reports has malice behind it it has an agenda so unless it's an actual transaction and even in this case we can't even get the actual transactions right with bogdan bogdanovich i put no weight into any verbal agreements especially ones that are done during a moratorium period it's fun to talk about it's fun to scroll when you're bored but let's not act like any of those are imminent i would say 10 of those land and being serious i did talk about bogdan already but i keep seeing people on all these platforms again you're here with fandal and fandal sportsbook we're talking on twitch youtube facebook live and twitter at the same time i i keep seeing because people are coming in late here to talk about bogdan what that situation is and that it was the equivalent of a friday news dump tonight friday news dump is when you put news out at five o'clock on a friday because everyone just stopped working and if you have bad news and you have to put it into the world you do it then because it won't get picked up because those people aren't working anymore they just kind of slipped that in there that bogdan is no longer going to the milwaukee box oops whoops you think that matters for a team winning thinking that yannis and tenon kumbo is going to sign next week as soon as he can that is anticipating according to brian windhorse that they are expecting they are expecting acting like they are thinking yannis is going to sign next week and all of a sudden oops we don't have bogdan anymore are we gonna have to pay him more are we gonna have to trade more do we have to deal with illsan illsan illiasova again those are the questions that they're asking somebody just asked what is the kevin love market any changes after tonight no unless unless you trade derrius garland with him he's untradable who would take on that contract love it man i'm on cloud nine with the nicks right now i'm on cloud nine because it's it's something very small and the nicks the nicks would hang a banner for something this minuscule because no one is ever going to talk about how the nicks moved up three picks but they had two picks tonight and they ended up getting two picks better or more for each of those picks by just making trades and willing and doing they they finessed somebody do you know what this i haven't felt like this in 20 years that the nicks got the better of a trade and you can actually quantify this one because it was just numbers on a piece of paper the nicks got two picks better and four picks better on two picks tonight just by trading with other teams it was the nbi equivalent of watching draft day they did it hang the banner big night for us maybe we'll win some games now there's a good question three straight galinari questions so how how do you sign galinari now that you have josh richeson on the books that's my question do you have the money to do that because galinari is going to get paid by somebody everyone's going to be running to sign you know what galinari wants davis bertons to sign right away because galinari and bertons are your two snipers out on the free agency market fred van vleet's going to get paid but he's a different story i bet galinari is sitting there saying get bertons off the books because we are going to fleece someone that is desperate for us because they just missed out on davis bertons that's what galinari wants and he's been linked to atlanta i don't know why atlanta would want him but he's been linked to atlanta now philadelphia is clearly out now because they just traded for seth curry and danie green so you don't have to worry about them could he go to houston they have a full mid-level exception there could he go to somewhere like phoenix i'm listening sure makes a lot of sense for denver denver just took paul milsap and mason plumley off the books imagine adding a davis bertons to that denver team they got money to spend they gotta go i'll tell you one thing is the nicks fan though the only guy that i have to root against is denny because if the nicks skip over denny the same way that steve curry was taken one pick before us i'm going to be pissed if denny ends up being the next luka donchich i don't have to root against it but i'm gonna have to could he end up in minnesota the fact that minnesota couldn't even deal jared culver unless i missed it like there were no there were no trades during the actual draft other than that seth curry won what teams make a run at surge abaca is a question toronto if toronto wants to run it back they obviously need him and fred van vleet to resign but if they don't i could totally see surge abaca go into houston on that mid-level they can afford him and they desperately need some rim protection and lord pj tuckers thank you thank you jeez thank you lord oh my god finally i don't have to play center anymore tell me surge abaca can stretch the floor too if you need him i would love to see and that would maybe keep those two guys there and keep them happy that checks all the boxes for me someone asked do i think abaca could go to the maps anybody can go to the maps but you put in him you putting him in number six out there at the same time once number six comes back from his meniscus tear and they play at the same time you're not signing abaca to come off the bench get your questions off guys we're going to be here through the end of the drafts we're on pick 51 right now how funny is this by the way that they were talking to john calipari about the guy that the next drafted a manual quickly and they're like what do you think he's going to do on okc and even calipari knew during the interview that okc had traded that pick to the nicks the fact that it's impossible to unless you're getting in these guys ears every second to tell television this isn't even the cord cutter part that's two minutes behind live television can't keep up with woj in twitter but even calipari knew so when he was asked that question he had to correct him i just find that so fascinating how fast how much faster the internet is than the own broadcast network with the guy breaking the news if george hill gets released where would he end up so george hill is if he gets released from the pelicans that pelicans team so now lonzo zion and the rim runner kid they're just gonna be throwing lobs on that team they're they're gonna be giving up 150 points a game but they're gonna be fun as hell but george hill get bought out i assume we're gonna i assume we're gonna want lonzo to start at some point alongside brandon ingram once he gets resigned george hill will i would rather him back up and be the veteran to back up lonzo i don't know man george hill's still good and he could he could probably still start for so many teams out there but do you want him starting a point guard if we're winning a championship or do you want him starting on some non-playoff team to kind of take up space dwight powell and surge obakas the twin towers now i can't get over the pistons man i can't get over the pistons what on earth are they gonna do if i had to make a guess as to a trade that's going to happen tomorrow someone what trades can we expect was a question thank you guys for thank you for the engagement that's the that's the internet equivalent of please clap thank you for the engagement um can they get andre drumming to boston somehow and the only way that works is if you get gordon hayward off the are there any celtics fans in here if it if you could get andre drumming and a meant getting gordon hayward out would you do it andre drumming is still his andre drumming but would you rather have andre drumming for a year than gordon hayward for a year i think they would accept that but how do we like spin this around to give them incentive i think you have to get atlanta involved so maybe a three-team trade with atlanta cleveland in boston that gordon hayward goes to atlanta they get the huge trade exception what would go from atlanta to cleveland to make it worth it boston would have to send something to cleveland to take on drumming no i would much someone just said i i don't know if you're a celtics fan but someone in the comments just said i'd take kevin love i don't think the boston celtics want this kevin love at 30 plus million dollars that's gordon hayward power forward version of gordon hayward guys i'd rather have okay celtics fans are getting mad at me now for saying drumming to the celtics but wouldn't you rather have just one year of drumming instead of three years of kevin love absolutely thoughts on the wizards by drafting denny tonight i think davis bertons is gone i don't think they're gonna pay him you're you drafted denny to replace what bertons does denny can get into the paint a little bit more but there's no reason to have the both of them out there with bradley billen lord knows what john wall's gonna look like coming back from a torn Achilles and i'm still i'm still a little tilted about tyries helleburton having to deal with sacramento like marvin bagley was such a bad fit there and helleburton such a don't you want helleburton on the ball he's never gonna see the ball can he be an off-ball cutter baseline runner i guess but him and that jim furik golf swing shot of his better go in at a 40 clip if he's just going to be standing in the corner what was the point of drafting him i'm not going to ask daren fox to take a backseat to this guy no you know someone said that spider-man pointing meme the spider-man pointing meme of trades is westbrook for john wall that's spider-man pointing meme wow the wizards got cash cashes winston is that a fact oklahoma there we go oklahoma city is selecting cashes winston at 53 and trading him to washington i with cashes winston and denny there how do you explain to me burton's is coming back at sports fan gg says as a seize fan i'd rather have a baka bane's back there you go or lamarcus aldrich over drummond and you know it was really sneaky before the clay thompson news tonight was i thought the golden state warriors might be a sneaky lamarcus aldrich spot doesn't he doesn't help the defensive holes that they have in the front court but a big expiring contract that is clearly not fitting into the san antonio spurs long-term plans i thought they might be able to steal him at some point and put him up there but if clay thompson sir they're certainly not going for a championship this year what happened to lamarcus aldrich could you move him to boston how well what would give them the incentive to they clearly didn't want the three draft picks tonight at trader pete says don't worry about haliburton because he played two he played the two as a as a freshman yeah uh haliburton can play off the ball but i think he got drafted for his value as an on ball guy that's one of these guys i know enough about because i was crazy obsessed with him thinking he was going to the nicks i went deep into all the youtube mixtapes of haliburton watching his game i just won the ball in his hands and that's a compliment to him my producer is telling me that we have nicks banners for graphics just throw it on the screen i just want to see what it looks like is it a joke i feel like you're about to put a meme on there oh you did it didn't you thanks there you go the next trade thanks right next to our world championship banner traded 27th that meme is old we've seen it a thousand times calvin okay you can take it off the screen now but yeah i called for it so hang the banner the nicks we have to celebrate small victories man thanks for joining us logan h morton says just joins what do i think about the maves moves i think you got to be happy because that team was never even coming close to a championship regardless of how good luka donchich is without some form of defense from somebody and josh richerson despite his his uh regression on the from the three-point line with philadelphia that dude can still lock up that dude can be a shadow on defense and for all you can't ask luka to put in the same effort on defense that he can on offense otherwise he'll fall apart josh richerson could go out there and guard a wing guy he's got the size a guy six foot six he can guard just about anybody you need him to tell me one player on that maves roster that if we need a stop who are you turning to to go out there and get it you want to know we're old thank you patty brown he just said kenyon martin's son just got drafted yeah i grew up with kenyon my buddy his big nets fan watching kenyon martin every single night and his kid just got drafted jesus how old am i what's up jane cesek 13 wants to talk nicks i'm here to talk nicks but you got to give me some questions because there's people in here have heard me uh stroke the nicks plenty tonight the the nicks have not ever had a draft this good they got lucky with number six on dalis they've gotten lucky in the past just kind of falling into things that they probably shouldn't have but the fact that they got their guy without trading up they were able to finesse two better picks from just the picks that they had is something that nicks have not done in 20 years you have to be super excited about a guy who bleeds new york he's from brooklyn and he's from brooklyn a lot different than carmelo anthony was from brooklyn he grew up in baltomar this guy was born and raised brooklyn you could tell it was his dream to be on the next and i have no doubt no doubt that he'll be on the front lines for us for many years to come my thoughts on lamello are he probably has the highest ceiling of anyone out there he's going to make me tune into charlotte hornet's games they're going to be on one of my main screens because i don't want to see him point to the to the b at half court and say i'm pulling up from here he adds entertainment value hornet's fans beg for relevancy because we've just been mediocre for the past 15 years lamello ball gives you relevancy somebody just asked what's the market for julius randall ebay somebody asked do i like the erin nysmith pick for the celtics uh celtics fans you know i've kind of said it a couple times tonight but i just don't don't see any of these three guys that you selected that wouldn't make it worth trading all of them to move up to get that one impact player you're a championship ready contender you're not moving jail and brown you're not moving jason tatum i guess you try to move kemmel walker but he's not going anywhere i need a guy that can be a part of that rotation and play a game seven against the miami heat i need someone i just didn't see one of those guys tonight but i don't know enough about the guys at the end of the draft maybe someone comes up there and can be the the romeo langford what carson edwards was supposed to be taco fall right none of these guys could be in the game none of those guys could be in the game in a game seven against the miami heat and they're going to be thrust into that situation i need a playmaker a difference maker that can run 20 minutes robert williams is just good enough to be out there some celtics uh some raptors talk raptors talk the raptors are doing one of two things next year if they get fred van vleet and surge abaca back every we run it back we try and go for the eastern conference again the same way we did in the bubble but if they don't come back how larry's on an expiring contract that's north of 30 million dollars we find someone to take him we tank and we build around pascal siacum norman pal and ojian and obi and these guys that we drafted because they i think they meant to do that last season but because they were so good we said we're just going to run with it and like oh my god we might actually win the east but if they don't get those two guys back they're not winning the damn east so you might as well start the rebuild trust me oh thank you so at jane what's your last name jane cizek sorry if i pronounced that incorrectly 13 so ain't no stoppin obi toppen the what you all have to realize watching this is we nicks fans have the luxury of having mike brian and walt clad frazier as our announcers walt clad frazier if you don't know rhymes every word in the dictionary with another word during the broadcast it's legendary so he his thing is always uh uh posting and toasting styling and profiling you know things like that with toppen he has many options you are lobbing the toppen the amount the amount of is that even it's not an analogy the amount of things that new clad frazier king i'm struggling to come up with this but the amount of amount of sayings that walt clad frazier is going to have for that man is going to be endless wine and dine all right folks well the second round is coming to a close here any last questions that you want to ask before we get up out of here any trades that's happened instant reaction a pretty quiet night in terms of the a-lister talk in the league but of course there was uh 76 was creating space the big winners of the night for me are the nicks the 76ers the okc thunder come to minds i probably go the biggest losers are going to be golden state obviously because of clay i'd probably say the boss in seltex because how did we just we had all these picks again had a dany ang did dany ang find a guy that can get us over the hump tbd toppen is hopping toppen is popping you see you guys you're with me now filling in the blanks for walt clad frazier he's popping he's toppen he's obi toppen hell yeah walt clad loves the word dexterity what is the new york nicks starting five we don't know that because half the half the roster is on team options we do know rj barrett's going to be there we do know hopefully frank nalikina is going to be there mitchell rominson should be in that starting lineup obi toppen let's go let's go they're not going to win a lot of games but as if they're showing progress here we're in a position to succeed for the first time in a long time my honest opinion i was just asked to the do you think the pelicans are contenders in the next five years um and they got a lot of guards they got a lot of guards they got to show me something on defense before i can say yes to that how are you getting any defense lanzos decent i guess i don't know jackson haze needs to play defense if jackson haze plays some defense i'll agree yeah i'll say yes to that the nuggets draft grade is going to be incomplete like it always is until we see there's no stopping obi toppen thank you michael strauss and that's the big question that we have to do oh yeah detroit biggest loser tonight by far um just because i can't they don't have anyone on their team the biggest question is going to be what do the warriors do if the clay news this is bad as we think it is are we headed for another it's just steve curry launching 43s a game and hopefully he doesn't get hurt situation or we're going to try and replace clay with a fred van vleet you're going to use all of our money to go get fred van vleet and then what when clay comes back i really hope it's not a brandon roy situation with clay thompson but he will not have played basketball for two and a half years if that is a rupture to killies that is really discouraging for a guy that is as fun as anyone in the league how did detroit do with their three top 20 picks they're going to be on the stage at the shelter yelling 313 by the time their contracts are done orlando draft grade um it's low for me just because i think col anthony is a terrible fit for them there you go now you're learning pistons are finally tanking a decade that they should have welcome to the world of the nicks the nicks biggest competition is the pistons because we're in a race to take bad contracts in stack assets the pistons want to do that too clearly that's our idea leave us alone the nicks go after bogdan i'm listening sign into a sheet you know what the nick the nicks should troll milwaukee and just sign bogdan to a huge sheet because we'll take him a good player i'll gladly take bogdan make the bucks match it they have to sign and trade anyway so now you're gonna have to convince the kings to take those guys when was the last time orlando felt like they made a good move on draft day mo bamba and that should tell you everything everyone was ecstatic about mo bamba everything you need to know about the orlando magic right now i'm not a fan of those jerseys either don't don't even cut orlando magic should never be wearing orange are you kidding me i understand they brought the pinstripes back in the star they what i hate the orange because it's orange county and because it's florida come on the magic are not orange at least they got rid of the grace san antonio getting trade jones at 41 i wanted the nicks to take trade jones but manual quickly at it quickly it is all right guys that's going to be it for tonight i think uh i'm going to have calvin here wrap it up for us but on the right side of the screen you do have the championship odds which are available to you amongst many other choices on fandal and fandal sports books so i encourage you uh to check that out if you are interested in making a wager i know who you think is going to win the title golden states certainly not going to stick around at plus 950 so please don't take that until we get some clay thompson news um that's it for me guys tonight i appreciate you guys stopping by the police clap thank you for engagement we'll do this again sometime all right there's us