 No Zion, no Ingram, no problem for the Pelicans and Clay gets ejected, but not before bragging about his rain collection. It's time to run it back, run it back, run it back, run it back, run it up. Happy Wednesday. Hello gentlemen, very serious faces on everyone this morning. I like to see it. A stadium insider Shamsherania as always bring in the knowledge NBA vet Chandler Parsons and of course co-host with Kevin Durant of the Etc. Eddie Gonzalez. How much do you hate the way I say that by the way, Eddie? Let's talk about it. I love it. I think we'll have to rebrand with that pronunciation. Fair enough. I know. I feel like I want to be British every time I say it. We had an interesting night in the league last night to say the least. I was shocked to find out that Clay had it in him enough to get ejected. Let's just get right into it. Warriors and sons, this one was spicy Shams, but I want to ask you, did Golden State let this one slip away? I really think that the sons took it because the Warriors, they had, they were right there. They had, I thought decent control of the game throughout into the third quarter. And then you saw Clay Thompson kind of lose it. He gets ejected and then the Warriors start to really fall apart. But to me, it was really the story of Devon Booker so far this season. His usage rate is actually as the lowest it's been in the last three seasons, but he's playing much more efficiently so far to start this year, averaging over 30 points a game, very efficient, three point and field goal percentage. Chris Ball, on the other hand, he's averaging the lowest usage rate throughout for his entire NBA career. So he's only at 15%. So to me, that's a sign that they're starting to get other players involved. Devon Booker miles bridges the under eight and you're starting to see kind of the turn of the sons right now going more youthful than relying on Chris Paul this season. Jaller. Yeah, you know what? I think we're going to see a lot of this obviously from the Warriors. They're Steve Kerr smart and they're okay with losing games now to get their young guys like Moody, like Wiseman, Kaminga, that experience when they know they're going to be in the playoffs. They know they're going to be playing in these big games. They're sparing these games now where they're obviously hoping still to win, but they're getting these guys live game experience that you can't teach in practice. You can't teach and shoot around. So I think the Warriors are frustrated, but they're okay with this. I think this is the type of loss that's going to pay off in the long run with getting these guys the exposure early on. And I think that's what they're doing. I think they're throwing them in the fire early. Clay obviously he was frustrated. Was he frustrated because he was over five from three and one for eight for the field or that they were who knows, but I think it's just one game early on that the young guys are getting good experience and obviously they want to win, but I think they'll be okay. Obviously in the long run. Yeah, I think, look, Reggie Miller said it over and over last night. There's just going to be these games. They mean more to the opponents. These are the big bad Warriors. These are the reigning champs. And we're on national TV. We got approval point. We talked about it yesterday. It's a big game for the Suns. They have to show up. They have to prove that they still have that in them. And they did. And it's not an excuse for the Warriors, but it kind of is just the way it is. We all show up to work on the wrong Thursday and just like want to go back to sleep, right? That's not to say the Warriors weren't trying. They weren't giving it a go. Steve Kerr put starters back in the fourth quarter down, I think 16. They made a little run of it. But yeah, there was a little bit more energy on the Sun side. And going back to Devin Booker, it's good to see him be the player that he's one of those players that Hoopers love him. And fans kind of wondered what he could be for years because they were losing so many games. So it's dope to see him thrive in these moments. And he was ready for it. And, you know, he'd let Clay have a piece of mind too. Yeah, he did. And speaking of Clay, it's shocking to me that was his first ejection ever. Man, he was fired up. Chandler, when you saw this, what was going through your mind as far as why he's so frustrated? Because I don't remember seeing him this angry. So what's the deal? No. Yeah, me neither. I think obviously this is his own game last night wasn't there. Like I said, he was one for eight from the field. He was over five from three. He wasn't playing well. It's hard for me to imagine that if he was hot and he was knocking down shots, he would have reacted like this. But something like this is something like this is interesting with all the dramas surrounding them. The Dreymon pool situation, Clay getting ejected. And these young guys, you know, the Warriors have kind of they've extended them. All these guys are getting paid Wiggins pool. And those are kind of it's almost like it seemed like the end of this era is coming. And there's this new wave of young guys. And maybe that's kind of leaking into them. And maybe that's a situation there. But I honestly just think Clay had an all night was pissed off and was just barking about his rings. I mean, I mean, to really take a look back, you saw Steve Kerr said post game that the minutes restriction is actually something that's frustrating Clay Thompson. And I know from speaking to people around the Warriors that that's something that he's dealing with. That's something that Jermon Green has dealt with so far this year. These guys don't really want to be on minutes restriction, especially Clay Thompson starting the year. But they both missed so much time, so much valuable time and training camp that they have to be. So I'm curious, Chandler, from your perspective, your guy like Clay Thompson accomplished to be on a minutes restriction and big games like this, that must be a little tough. It's it's honestly, it's unbearable. It's you finally you get these five, six minutes stints and you know, you're coming out. So mentally you're doing things that you normally wouldn't be doing. He's probably taken some shots knowing he's coming out. It's hard to get in a rhythm when you just have these little segments and I went through it with my career where we started, you know, I started coming off the bench. I started timing it where I could be at the end of the game. You try and mix and match and find a rhythm, but it's very, very hard, especially for Clay. He's never gone through something like this. So now he's trying to work himself again. He's trying to get his condition. He's trying to get his legs all while playing within the flow of their offense and not, you know, doing anything crazy knowing he's coming out. So it's tough. Obviously, I think as the season goes on, though, extend his minutes and he'll get back in that normal field, but it definitely is tough and it takes a toll on you just knowing that even if he gets five, six, seven threes and goes on one of those Clay heaters, he's coming out. Yeah. I think you look, Clay is a easygoing guy last night. Might have just been last night, but there is a lot going on with him. There's a lot to consider with his situation, not only the minutes restriction, but his place on the team. Chandler mentioned it. They have Jordan pool who is basically the replacement in a lot of ways. They've drafted guards in the last few drafts. They're clearly looking forward to the future with or without Clay. He only has one year in his contract left after this year and there's no player option. There's no team option. They both can cut ties. We don't know what the idea is with them. This is his first year with a full summer to fully recover, fully get in shape. He wants to show what he can do. The minutes restriction is frustrating. Nobody's denying that. He's only averaging 11 points a game. He's not shooting that well. He started season slow before. It's not something to be concerned about, but you have to imagine he's frustrated with everything that's going on with him and the team. And Charles Barkley spent a long time last night talking about that. Sorry about that. No, I wanted to ask you because Charles Barkley spent a long time talking about how this is not the same Clay. And I don't know if that's an age thing or just simply, you know, he was really vocal about not playing pickup games this season. He's a little, I think, scarred mentally about the injury and he doesn't want to repeat that. So I don't know if Charles was being a little bit overly dramatic or it really is the beginning of the backside of Clay's career, which is really hard to say out loud for me, Chandler. Yeah. It's, and listen, I know Clay very, very well. He's the most unselfish, best positive guy ever. But when you see, you know, Andrew Wiggins is their second best player. He gets the extension. Jordan Paul gets the extension. Like Eddie just said, the future of Clay Thompson is, is, is shortening and that's stressful and that's tough. And obviously he's had a great career and you can't knock that, but the Clay Thompson we're used to seeing isn't really the same. And, and Draymond's kind of in that same category where I know they feel it, they don't want to talk about it. And they're literally going to eat and practicing with the replacements every single day. So they want to win, they want to win a championship there and they're going to do whatever they can. But that's a difficult situation to go to work with the guy that's taking your job basically next year. I'm not ready. I'm not ready for any of this guys. But on the other side, look, we, we've talked about the Warriors and rightfully so they are the defending champs, but the Suns, and it was just yesterday we were thinking, Oh, is their window over? Did they miss their shot last year? Then they come out with a pretty dominant win. Did we underestimate this Phoenix squad, Eddie? I think a lot of the concerns are still true. But yeah, they won 65 games last year. They ran away with the one seed. Have they not had a COVID outbreak or whatever they're calling what happened in game seven? Do they go deeper into the playoffs? Very likely. They have all the makings of a contender. If they get something useful for Jay Crowder, even more so, they have a big who can stress the floor a little bit, who can guard multiple positions. They've been in huge games. They have leaders. They have a great coach. They have all the makings of a contender. I still have my concerns about Chris Paul, he had a decent game yesterday, killed my parley. Sorry, Chandler. But underrate right a while too early. I'm not so sure. I still think there's a gap between the Warriors, despite what happened yesterday, Celtics, the Bucs, teams like that, and then the Suns. All right, fair enough. We're staying in the Western Conference, Mavs, Pelicans. Man, this Pelicans team is fun to watch. They didn't have Zion. They didn't have Brandon Ingram. And yet they still come out with the win, moving to three and one on the season. But Luca Doncic, who is right now the runaway favorite to an MVP, has a decision to make with four seconds left in the game and goes down for the layup. Why? Someone explain to me what happened here. Chandler, you explain to me what happened here, please. Yeah, I think he obviously lost track of time. I think maybe he thought maybe there was five or six or seven seconds left. He can get a quick bucket, force them to make their free throws, call timeout, and get a half-court possession like they did. When it gets down that close, and honestly still with four seconds, you should be able to get a better look than they got. And I know he's hit some of those crazy step back game winners, but at the end of the day, that's a very, very low percent low effective shot that he's hit. But I can't imagine that's the shot that they wanted on the road. Sometimes you do go for the win instead of a tie. But me, I'm trying to get to the rim, trying to get an easier bucket. At least get to the foul line in that situation. I don't hate the decision for him to go to layup with four seconds, because like I said, they still have to make free throws, which they did miss one. So they technically could have won the game last night. It's better than settling for that three that he took at the end of the game. He could have done that with four seconds and the game just went over. So, you know, I think it's 50-50 call. I just think they got to get something better at the end of the game than a step back 35 footer. I'm with Chandler. I'm with Chandler. My issue's the second shot. I kind of get the rationale of the layup, but they gave it to him. He tried to draw some contact, get a free throw. He's a premier flopper in this league. I love Luca, but he knows what he's doing when he gets the contact. It isn't working out in a weird way. I'd imagine he knew there was a timeout and figured, hey, look, four seconds, five seconds. It's all happening really fast. He knows it takes one second to get that step back. And the whole arena knew he was going to do that step back when they got the ball back. So I, like I said, I'm with Chandler. The step back is more the issue for me than the layup. And on the other side, the Pelicans, I mean, no Zion, no Ingram. They're a fun team to watch, but fun is one thing. But are they good? I mean, it feels like they're figuring some things out and able to adapt very quickly on the draw there, Eddie. Are you like what you're seeing from this New Orleans team? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if Trey Murphy is going to shoot 100% every game, they're going to be deadly, but, but you can see the balance and their offense. You can see the versatility in the way every score, every starter scored at least 12 points. Trey is actually the only one who went over 20 to three double dude scores off the bench. They got it at every different way. What I like is they can go big and they can go small ish with Larry Nats and even Jackson Hayes. Nats gives them the ability to be a smaller quicker team late in games against a team like the Mavericks that doesn't want to play a center late. And so they just massed them with it. They switched everything. They made it difficult. I think Willie Green, his approach to Luca was major last night. I'm very curious, Chandler, you played with James. You played with the very beginnings of ISO James. What do you think about the strategy of like, look, we're just going to switch. We're going to hang on all your shooters. We're going to make you do it. Is that the right way to approach a guy like this? I think so. I think especially with the Pelicans current roster, I mean, they have such a deep roster where they can throw different looks at them. They can throw pesty little Alvarado out of them. They can show link. They have bigs like Jackson Hayes and Nats that can switch those pick and rolls and guard the perimeter. So I think with their roster makeup, they have, they're tough for the maps. And look, this is just one game in October that Luca still played outrageously good. But this is a huge sign for the Pelicans that without three starters and her two stars, this is a big win. And this is the win that, you know, month from now, two months from now, they're breaking down this film showing like, look, this is, this is what we're capable of when guys are out like next man up mentality. And then they showed that last night that they can be pretty much anybody even without their stars. Speaking of shops updates. I think you really have to give them credit for the way that they've drafted. I mean, Herb Jones and like these guys, these young guys, even when, you know, when you look at down the, down the line, Jose Alvarado, undrafted, Tray Murphy, I think they have, they have waves upon waves of talent on this team that can make them dangerous. Even when Zion Winston and Brain Ingram out and they don't know when those two guys are going to come back. There's hope that Zion Winston can come back by the weekend. But Brain Ingram is really week to week at this point with that concussion and head issues. So this team is going to try to stay afloat as long as possible. I mean, they have to be feeling decent this morning, waking up thinking we pulled that off without those two and they will be coming back at some point. And that's the silver lining. So yeah, it's having seen the New Orleans Pelicans a lot at the end of last season here in San Antonio. I'm excited for them. I think they're fun to watch and we'll see what happens. That was last night though. We've got a big one tonight. We hope for Eddie's sake. It's Nets box. We got to talk about it right now. The Nets sitting at one and two, the bucks have only played a couple of games. They're undefeated so far. But I ask you, Eddie, to predict the future, what version of Ben Simmons will we see tonight? He should have some confidence going into this game. It's a preseason game, but his performance against the Bucks in the preseason was kind of the guiding light for Nets and Nets fans to start this season. He defended Yanis really well. He attacked the ball. He drove to the lane. He did his distribution thing. But you could see what that team is supposed to be, how they're supposed to be the switchable defense, how Ben in a lot of ways can be the anchor of that, how he's going to guard other teams' best players, and how there are certain players in this league that he just bothers. He's 6-10. He's got long arms. He's strong. He should be able to defend a guy like Yanis. Tonight tonight we really see it. Tonight tonight though, you know, the Bucks will be playing their true rotation. They'll have a real home crowd tonight. And it's a real good opportunity for him to show it. For all of the jokes about his game against the Grizzlies and fouling out, he was more aggressive than we had seen him at this point. He took a couple of different shots. He shot a 3. Are we going to see that all-star Ben Simmons, who averaged like 18-11 or 18-10? Probably not. But if he can be a strong defensive anchor against Yanis, then that's got a good chance tonight. Chandler, you agree with them? You expect that? Yeah, I do. I think the Nets are the biggest confusing team for me because they're so talented. And when they're on, they are going to be tough to beat. So tonight, yeah, tonight, obviously the Bucks are one of the top teams in the East. And I agree with Eddie. I think Ben Simmons tonight should take this as a one-on-one challenge. And every time Yanis is on the court, Ben Simmons, I got him. I'm going to bully him. I'm going to use my strength. I'm going to use my size. I am going to leave my imprint on this game, on the defensive end, knowing I'm struggling offensively and you can't buy a bucket. I am going to do anything I can tonight to lock up Yanis as much as I can. And I think that's the key to his success would have to be on that side of the floor tonight. All that being said, one guy that I never worry about showing up is Kevin Durant. So if you're the Bucks strategy-wise, what do you plan on doing as far as containing Durant tonight? Who wants to take that one first, Chandler? You really can't ever contain KD yet. Yeah, you cross your fingers and cross your toes. No, I think the biggest thing with him is you make it hard for him to catch. You push him out a little bit. You make it physical. I like switching on him. It's just tough. The guy can do everything. I think he's the best scorer in the league with his size and what he can do. It's honestly just up to him whether he's having an off night or not. You could make it more difficult, getting more physical with him, but yeah, there's no recipe to stop that cat. Sean, I want to ask you- The Bucks are always interesting to me because they approach Kevin and in a bunch of different ways. They essentially got PJ Tucker to guard Kevin and it almost didn't work with the performances he had. They like to throw drool on him. They actually like to keep Yanis off him as much as they can to help. And I understand the strategy. When you drive by a guy and then run into Yanis, that's discouraging. That's frustrating. Yeah, I'm interested to see it. They're missing a few of their guys. I think in a perfect world, they maybe do Chris on him and Chris obviously won't be around for a while. I mean, that's almost like you wrote out the segue to Sean's on that one. Yeah, Chris Middleton is obviously still out, Sean. So who on this roster do they look to to sort of maybe not take his place, but kind of fill in while he's out? Well, they're starting Grayson Allen right now, but you need Drew Hadek to continue to step up. Bobby Portis, we haven't really seen him break out so far this regular season, but that's another guy that you've got to look at. And Yanis, until the couple has a lot on his plate on a nightly basis, it's basically like he's got to be Superman, especially in a game like tonight. So they're going to have to continue to buy time without Chris Middleton, but also Pat Connathan, they're both going to be back at some point, you know, hopefully for the Bucks mid to late November. So they still have a few weeks here left. I'd like to excuse my face when you said Grayson Allen as this show goes on, you will guys will begin to understand my feelings towards certain players and Grayson Allen always makes my face crumple. So I'm apologizing now ahead of time. I'm sorry. We are going to take a quick break here, but coming up next, guess what? How long did we make it? 19 minutes. We got Russell Westbrook updates and to sort of cleanse the palette, we're going to show you dunks upon dunks upon dunks. It's all coming back. Some of the best poster dunks of, well, the weekend night when we come back and run it back. All right. Shams with the tweet. They're listing Russell Westbrook hamstring as doubtful to play Wednesday. And that is tonight against the nuggets that of course tweet from yesterday, Shams. Okay. What is the latest on the Westbrook front? I'm told Russell Westbrook is not expected to play tonight. And this is a hamstring issue that he dealt with at the end of the preseason. I'm told there was a setback yesterday that occurred. And that's why he's going to he's expected to sit tonight and then reevaluate him going into Friday's game in Minneapolis. But right now the Lakers are going to spend the day trying to figure out who's going to start in Russell Westbrook's absence. He's been the starter after they brought him off the bench to end the preseason. But whether it's Austin Reeves, Kendrick Nunn, Troy Brown, they're going to go in a different direction for tonight at the very least. But it is very curious, depending on how they play tonight, how do they move forward? Do they bring Russell Westbrook off the bench? How do they manage the Russell Westbrook situation will be very interesting monitor if they are able to pull out a win tonight? The timing is, well, it's perfect, quite frankly. It's the perfect storm because the Lakers, of course, are 0-3. And if somehow their first one of the season comes tonight without Russell Westbrook, cue the overreaction, Chandler. What do you expect? And will we be wrong to overreact? Or would it be actually the right reaction? It's a lose-lose for Russ, honestly, because like you said, he's not playing. If they win tonight, it's going to shine even more light. Like, look, look how much better we are with Russ. Look like this. And it's just going to look bad, although people that know basketball know that's not the exact reason. I do think Russ being out tonight is almost more of a relief for Darvin Ham. All the headlines, all the dramas surrounding him, this is a chance for them just to go out, have fun, play. It just concerns me when you just say we're trying to figure out who starts Troy Brown, Austin Reeves. They just don't have the talent this year to sub into where, you know, like now all of a sudden I have the Lakers and Russell Westbrook's out like, no, I just don't see it. I don't think their team is good. I don't think they're deep. They have zero shooting, but it is a bad situation for Russ to be in because if they win tonight, people are going to shit on him even more than they already do. Which is tough to do. I know. It's like how much more is there? He's being honest. Yeah. As somebody who comes here every morning and has to talk about basketball, you know, I would love nothing more than the Lakers winning this game and a blowout fast and shooting 50% from three and all of that. Like the dramatics are hilarious, but Chandler, but why do you hate Russ, Eddie? Why do you hate Russ? But Chandler is right. Like the issues are way deeper on their roster than Russ. So it's tough. There's no way out of this for us. We've been talking about it. We're going to talk about it until he's a spur or a hornet or a pacer or whomever he lands with. But like there's no winning for him. If they shoot well tonight, it won't because he wasn't there. It'll be because the, because the, you know, a broke clock is right once every week or whatever. But it's tough. It'll be interesting to see what I'm very, what I'm more interested in is kind of like the energy around the team and the body language. And if he's there, if he's the supportive teammate and all that stuff, we'll see. I still think the nuggets run them out. He is going to be on the bench. So it will be interesting to see the energy. Wait, so Eddie, Eddie. Oh, I can't. Well, I can't wait for the outfit. First of all, but so you think no matter what, whoever's on the court for the Lakers, you don't think they're winning regardless. Well, I think the nuggets are the better team and they should show that. But we've seen LeBron do, do crazier things than beat the nuggets in October. Can I ask a question? If I'm Russ Westbrook, what's to say that my hamstring doesn't hurt for the rest of the season? Chandler, is that possible? Can it? It's like I said on the show, I think yesterday he's in a tough, dark place where he doesn't want to play on the steam anymore. He's not having fun. He hates playing in LA at crypto. He's not enjoying it. It is officially, I think, at his breaking point where he's just not enjoying playing the game and he's getting all this criticism and that takes a toll is what she can say. It doesn't, he shrugs it off. It bothers him. Anybody that knows him, anyone who doesn't know him can see that he's visibly frustrated and it's a tough spot. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he just, his hamstring keeps hurting till this agent finds a new home for him. And I don't think the Lakers would care if his hamstring kept hurting. So it's, I guess, you know what I mean? It's a tough spot. Like I said, where there's really no win for Russ until he's just out of there, man. It was like, what, eight? It was like eight months ago we had a certain LA native point guard have a stiff hammy just so long enough to get to another team. And then I don't know, James stretched it out in Philly and hammy was right and he was back on the court. So would not surprise me at all. It might be the right move to be honest. Climate change. Climate change on a hammy is probably all you need. Shams, I want you to blink twice if half of your day is spent on Westbrook watch. Just let us know you're always on Westbrook watch. It's always on Westbrook. We'll definitely have something new discussed on Monday, I'm sure. You've wake up Westbrook, go to bed Westbrook. On the other side of things though, we have Jamal Murray, who's, for me, one of the positives of this season is getting to see him back on the court. How long before you kind of see the old Jamal Murray coming out, Eddie? I mean, hopefully soon. You know, he's only averaging 12 points a game. He's playing limited minutes, obviously. But it's been, way, it's been all like, I think 18 months since he toured ACL. They were talking about him coming back late last year to play, you know, as he, they said he was structurally fully recovered. He actually came out last year before the playoffs and said, no, I'm not playing, leave me alone. But he should be healthy. He should be in game shape. Hopefully we get to see that. So he was a game changer when he was healthy and good to go. Yeah. If they can get Jamal Murray from the bubble, anything close to that, that their team is going to take a huge leap because that dude was on another level. He was hoop and he was their best player. So I hope as a fan and someone that's went to knee injuries, it takes time and stuff, but I hope to see him at that level because man, he was fun to watch Orlando. So fun to watch. Shoms, we say goodbye to you now as you go back to work. The hard stuff begins and we will see you on Monday. Thank you as always. But you guys, we've got a, the segment's back. It's all about this man has a family and it's dunks. It's embarrassments. It's things that you don't want to be in on the receiving end. And we start things off with Brandon Clark. I don't, you know, Chandler, I'd love to hear your take on what's more embarrassing to be dunked on, to be denied, to be crossed over. Like I don't know which one's more embarrassing, but here we have a dunk. So tell me, how's this feel? That's not too bad, right? Yeah. No, this one for Dan Sharpe, this isn't embarrassing. It's a lob. It's not like he went chest to chest and bodied him. It's more of a better pass from John. Honestly, just no one Brandon Clark has bounce like that. It's a great lob. He caught it with one hand. He finished, but I wouldn't even really consider that a poster. He's kind of behind sharp same Z's, same Z's on that, Eddie. Yeah. Same. I mean, look at him. Hey, inbounds the ball. He's overrated. So that happens. Like, look, I'm, I'm trying, I'm trying to car drama ran over here. Whatever Brandon, do your thing. If you pause that when he dunks the ball, his nuts are already on his head before you can see the ball. So you can't, you can't consider that a poster. That is the rule. That is the rule. That's what we look to. Okay, fine. How about this? Cause I do think if a guy is six one in Devonte Graham and he blocks a dude who's seven feet, that's something. Yeah. That's pretty embarrassing. Like what, what are we doing there? Walker, Walker Kessler. I don't know what he was doing, trying to take off from over there. Is the buzzer about to go off or what? But shout out to Devonte. That's, that's nice. That's like the little guy dream right there. I don't think I've blocked a shot in like eight years, but you got to believe the last time I did, I cursed and screamed and all that. So that's, that's dope. I love that. Oh, I don't even know if Walker Kessler was going to dunk that. He, I think he bit off more than he can chew here on the take off and, and, and Devonte Graham, like, look, he blocks the ball under the rim. So I don't know if he was going to end up finger roll on this or what, but that honestly Kessler made Devonte Graham. Yeah. Yeah. That's just confusing. I do love how much the colleagues look like they're having fun out there. And by the way, two last names, Walker Kessler, never trust that guy, not to be trusted ever. I love this next one. A, because we talked about Kelly Olinick the other day. And by all accounts, you guys have said he's the nicest, sweetest man. No one has problems with him, but Jeff Green decides to make him think about life. Jeff's array of posters is absurd. Like it's up there with superstars. It's, I don't know why guys keep trying to, you got to just let him in the lane. It's over. It's fine. It's two point. Yeah. Jeff Green has bodies and you can tell Kelly here is just like trying to go vertical, do it like the right defensive play here, but he just simply didn't jump high enough to even come close to contesting this. His only other option there. Yeah. His only other option is to step outside of the key and try and take a charge, but then it could have got really ugly for him. Nope. Nope. Nope. I just, you know what, that's people are trying. Okay. We made fun. We did. And rightfully so. We made fun of James Harden earlier in the season because of the shimmy that turned into a mess, but here he is dropping someone and completing it. And not just someone actually, Matherin. So yeah, the rookie, welcome. Welcome to the league, bro. Welcome to, to now you have to guard James Harden and they don't call fouls on him. Enjoy. Hey, you notice he didn't hit him with the shimmy though after the shimmy air ball in the last game. So he was a little less confident in this or he would have gave the shimmy, but he definitely, but he made up for it. And that's, that's a filthy pat that move he's got going now. I'm actually shocked. He didn't shimmy because it is a rookie. Like that's your time. The time out after I hit that lovely because now I get to dance. Now I get to like really let the arena know I did that just now. So they gave him a gift for the time. Very sure. I sometimes I feel like that would be more embarrassing to get just sort of leveled that way than a dunk, but I don't know. I'll never know. I'm just I'm maddering. If I'm maddering on pistol, red car allowed like Eddie said for calling the time out. Now I got to sit there for a minute while they replaying it in the arena. My teammates are kind of busting my balls about this. You cannot leave me on an island and call a timeout after I get dropped like that. You know what though? Maybe that will be his welcome to the league moment that he'll remember forever. We'll see. We'll ask him in five years. You give me, you give me floor seats like that. I need the tapes. I'm deleting all tapes. That's not cool. How about Kyle Kuzma on Andre Drummond? Oh, that's just that was weird. Huh? Yeah, if I'm Billy Donovan, I'm more just shredding Drummond for not giving me a better effort here. At least give a foul. Do something like yours. You're a big man with a small forward trying to dunk on you. You got to put his ass on the ground at least or contest it more than that. It's a weird pirouette. I don't get it. Dre, Dre, you're out there for that. Like what are we doing? He wanted to see the dunk. Like you're rebounding your blocking sides. Come on, buddy. What's going on? Yeah, I do like it. Yeah. And as a big though, it's more acceptable to get dunked on. You're challenging more shots at the rim. You were going to get dunked on as a center in the NBA. So it's less embarrassing, I think for him. He's just, he's got to give us more effort there. Yes. It looked fun. We're going to take a quick break when we come back. Carl Anthony Towns calling out a teammate about his diet. What? And women, Yama is a better prospect than LeBron. One of these dudes is going to convince us of that next. Ant was just telling us that he puts a lot of this on him and he's got to be better and back to backs that he has not done that so far. Can you help him through that? Or just is that a young player trying to figure out what to do in this league and how to, how to answer the bell two nights in a row? I mean, I, you know, maybe I could do a better job of teaching him how to take care of his body, you know, diet and everything. So I'll be on me. I know y'all think it's funny up here when he talks about Popeyes and all that, you know, that doesn't, that doesn't make me happy to hear, you know, you know how I know that bothers him because nobody asked about his diet or what he eats and it's just sitting there at the top of his brain. Chandler, it felt like a moment maybe where that might be a little bit awkward in the locker room later. Do you agree? Yeah, it's just super corny for him to say that. I don't know if it's his attempt of trying to be a leader, but leaders don't do that in public leaders privately pull their player, their teammate over there and they talk about that and then, or they get with the training staff, they get with the chef, they get with whatever they have to get to to address this issue. You do not air that out after a bad loss when emotions are already high, you know, doing that to, you know, another star player on the team. I just think that's completely out of bounds and that's, that's not how you lead. That's not how you get things done. And I think that's super wack. Yeah, I got two issues with this. One, the question he gives is that Ant Edwards quote, and Ant is taking accountability for a bad game. Ant is jumping on the sword for a game that they lost and should not have lost. And like, that's accountability. That's a guy being a leader stepping up and saying, hey, we're going to be better. And my other issue is, why the Popeye slander? What's, there's nothing like, what are we doing? But yeah, that was just so random. I don't, like, what's that about? What are you doing, Kat? Like, you know, there was, he definitely could have handled that better. And I don't know. Kat's just quirky. He's weird, I guess. He looked so mad. And he also, it's like he took over a dad's face. Like he just was very disappointed. A very odd moment indeed. But yeah, you're right. Popeyes did take some shrapnel in that. And I have no idea why. That was a little bit odd. But moving on, we had, we had a fight. We had a skirmish. We had a, a tete-a-tete, if you will. This is Saturday night. Heat raptors. Kayla Martin has been suspended in this one. Really, this is my excuse to ask Chandler if you've ever been involved in an on court fight. A fight? No. Something like this, where, where, you know, I've been like a little fix up. Me and Mello got into it at the Frito line. Kind of something similar to this, where you're boxing out and Martin hears, it's, it's, this isn't like, this isn't malicious. Obviously that was a little extra, but he's just trying to box out to physical play. The guy comes over his back. You know, honestly, if you're the heat, this is something that you're, you're okay with being Kayla Martin. You need that tough, you know, enforcer. And if this is going to maybe spark them and get them going, this is at the end of the world. If it's the playoffs and now you're suspended the game, I think it's, you know, ignorant. But no, me, I'm more of a a lover than a fighter, Michelle. Oh wow. Eddie, I don't even know what to follow up with that. I'm impressed by the double leg takedown. I watched MMA sometimes. That was pretty good by Kayla Martin. I wasn't sure what the issue was. I mean, they got a little tangled up on the box out, but I agree with Chandler. I mean, I think this is one of those things is like, hey, you know, whatever you did it. We're talking about a team that last year got riled up and really pushed themselves into the conference finals because their best player and their coach almost fought in the middle of a game they were winning. So I think they'll be fine over there. This was, it looked a little crazy though. As a fan, I love when it gets a little intense and heated. I know it too. I never understand when the crazy thing now stopped talking like, no, let them talk. What do we know? Yeah, let them talk. It's just crazy now to see an altercation like this because in the NBA, it's mostly fluff, right? Because you don't want to get suspended. You don't want to lose money. So when guys actually go at it and fight like this, they really don't care and it's something serious. So like this was interesting because this is like a, this is real contact here and this is like money out of their pocket. This isn't just like, they call me back, NBA fight. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, maybe it's just, you know what? We never know what's going on in somebody's life. It could be a whole lot of things going on on the other side of things. You know, Adam Silver, we've talked a little bit about sort of the tanking that we expect from this season. And in addressing tanking, he has said that he thinks that the changes that they have made as a league have sort of, I don't know, taken some of the incentive away to tank. And obviously that has to do with the percentages and tweaking them as far as being the worst team. But do you guys agree? Do you think there have been enough changes implemented that tanking is no longer enticing, if you will, Eddie? I think the biggest change there is the playing. There's a real opportunity at playoff games for teams like the Kings or the Wolves last year and the Spurs to go, hey, like, you know, on a normal season, we would have fell back a month ago. But there's actually a chance we'll get an extra game. We might get two extra games. We might get four. So let's push it. I think that's the biggest change. I still think teams are always going to be jostling both at the top and the bottom of the standings. Last year, we've seen teams trying to avoid Toronto because of the COVID restrictions, trying to avoid what they thought were going to be the eight seed nets. And so like it's always going to happen. But I think the playoffs have been, the plan has been huge as far as motivating in that sense. You agree, Taylor? Yeah, totally. I think honestly, the play is really the only factor I see here, because you look at teams this year, like Sacramento, like Charlotte, these are teams that I think with the normal playoffs, these guys are, you know, they're tanking and they're trying to get Vic. Now it's like, well, we could be a top 10 team. We can make the, you know, the plan and anything can happen. So I do think that's taking a little bit of it out. But like Eddie said, there's still going to be some, you know, load management or no back to backs or guys sitting out for really no reason, just to try and avoid winning for sure. Can't fix it perfectly. Nothing can be. It's time to convince me. Eddie, I'm hoping we give you an easier one to start things off today. This is where I give you a premise. And you do your best to convince me and us. If it's true or not, we'll start with Ben Simmons. Eddie, convince us that he will be an all star this season. An easy one, huh? I'll see you over there. The next should be a great team. If there is this world where he gets into his rhythm and begins to actually attack on offense and continues to be a defensive force without fouling, that's absolutely a world where he makes it as a forward or, you know, some K-pop hack like Harrison Barnes, then he gets a trillion votes. Yeah. If Ben turns into 2019 Ben, yeah. That's an all star. Are you convinced, Chandler? There's a little fading off there in the end. I don't know. I don't, I think, listen, I think they're going to get two all stars. It's going to be Katie and Kyrie. I think it's a stretch to say he's an all star. But yeah, like he said, if they win enough games and they happen to get in, you know, three all stars, he I guess would be the third choice. But I don't see it. Oof. Oof. All right. Well, slight, slight chance. All right, Chandler, you're up. Convince me and us that Wimbanyama is a better prospect than LeBron was. That's a big one. Listen, LeBron was, you know, still, you know, he's the best prospect ever. Thousands of people would line up to watch. I remember as a kid going home and I was watching his games. So now when you're looking at, you know, Wimbanyama, I think the biggest difference is his size, right? Seven four, everything I hear about is closer to seven foot six. And we've never really seen a human being with his size and his length and his skill set that can move and his agile and is as mobile as him. So I think the biggest difference also is this guy's been playing against pros for two years. LeBron was doing what he was doing against high schoolers. So I think when I'm trying to make the argument, I think that has a factor in that he's more ready right away, which is crazy to think because LeBron was unbelievable as with the year. But that would be the edge to me is that this guy has, we've never seen anything like him at this size at this length that can handle or shoot the ball and move like he did. Who's also been playing against grown men for the last two years. So that would be, it's, it's interesting. It's tough. LeBron to me is, is, is, is a crazy prospect. But this guy is probably the closest thing that I've seen since Eddie. You think so? I agree. I like the last statement for sure. It's the most sure shot we've had since LeBron. It's been 20 years. This is, this is why they say generational. It's been a generation. It's time for this generation's guy. And it looks like it's him. It looks like something's happening here. Okay, Eddie, this is going to be a bonding moment for all of us. I think you have to convince us that you could make a contested layup for a million bucks. And this is based on some video that I have now watched. It's, it's a league. What, tell me what you do. So you play in this, this league. Okay. So what is it called the sun? It's called the Sunday Wash Club. I'm a, I'm a transplant to New York. So I've been looking for games to play in. It's a bunch of media members. My guy, Jarrell, he's an editor at Sports Illustrated. He started the runs. We hope all over New York is me. Lockdown defense. Nice break. Now a contested layup in an NBA. That was contested. I mean, look, I got a little bit to me. I got a little bit to me. How many attempts do I get? That's what I need to know. Cause it was at the truck. That's not fair. That's not fair. But look, I got a little bit, I got a little bit happening over there. I think in my, in my right pair of KDs, I think I could do it. I think maybe not somebody installed Chandler, but a guard contest me. I might be able to make it happen. Listen, if Eddie can go up for a layup and he's got Andre Drummond doing the spin out of there, I got Eddie body in him for a bucket. No doubt. There we go. I love it. If I had Andre Drummond doing a spin under there, I could do that. I'm not taking you down. I'm just saying. I don't know, Eddie. I feel like the confidence that I just saw in that video, I believe in you. I believe in you. Okay. Yeah. No, that was our first bonding. That was us becoming best friends. We're going to take a quick look at a few games that we've got coming up tonight. It's the Sixers and the Raptors, the Sixers, they finally won one, but they've also lost 16 of their last 17 against Toronto. So is this just one of those teams that they cannot get around Chandler? It happens, right? Yeah. Every team has kind of their kryptonite and this just seems to be one of theirs, but honestly it's a new season. It's a newer team. I like, I like Philly tonight. I think they're going to, they're going to finally figure it out. And I just don't see this lasting very long. I think they're too good. They're too talented. And I like Philly going in there and finally getting one over them. Yo, Nick Mason has cut the road of six, ten guys. I can see why they've been an issue, but I do like Philly to turn around their season and it's early in the season, but I do like them tonight. I think James is a little great. I think Joel has been motivated. I want to see a big game for Tyrese Maxey. Well, last time they played, of course, was the Siakam elbow to MB's face, which resulted in an orbital fracture. I mean, if you're Joel and B, you're, you're thinking that, right? Like you woke up this morning thinking that she's got to be right. You definitely don't forget. You definitely don't forget it. Yeah. Yeah. You break my face. I'm going to remember every day. I think about it every day. Also Hornets, Nicks will be playing both these teams with a two and one record. And we've heard about the Lakers perhaps making some sort of trade with Charlotte. This Charlotte team, as it's constituted now, what would they look like if you took Westbrook and put them on there? Would they, I don't know, be a contender of any sort whatsoever? Eddie? Not a contender, but I think they then become a much more competitive team. If Russ can offer one thing, it's a boost to your offense. If he gets to be the key of that offense, he can make a bad team decent. I think he absolutely can do it. I think that's his role in the league at the moment. Now, if you put them on an established team and minimize his role, you kind of get what you've got now. So I think it's a decent move for them. If they don't have to give them too much, you'd like to see this energy with Lamello contenders a lot, but it's going to be a decent thing for sure. It's a heck of a lot. Chandler, let's talk Nick's really quickly because the crowd at MSG seems to be warming up again to Julius Randall. And obviously with Brunson being there, I think they feel optimistic as they often do at the beginning of the season. Can you give them more reason to feel optimistic about this squad? Yeah, I think they look, I think they look solid. I think Julius Randall is playing much better. He's obviously, you know, getting the love back from the garden. I love Jalen Brunson. I think the maps made a huge mistake not resigning him. I think he's one of those floor generals that can score and he can facilitate. And honestly, my guy, Cam Reddish, he was my rook in Atlanta. He's shown flashes that he can step in there and he can get a bucket. He can slash and that kids got game. And I don't know what happened in Atlanta. It didn't really work out for them. They were wing heavy, but I love that he's kind of flourishing a little bit and get an opportunity there because he's a good kid. He can really play. Plus the garden's fun. They need to be good. It's fun. We're going to take a quick break here because things get serious when we come back. We break down the latest in NBA tunnel fashion plus Parley time. I swear one of these is going to hit. Run it back next. NBA, but make it fashion, fitter brick. All right, guys, Jaden party. Go. I don't know what to do with it. Yo, I love the denim tears hoodie, but those pants, channel, I think you can pull those pants off channel. Bro, I don't know what I don't know what kids are on these days, but that is not it. He has to be sweltering in those pants. Is that far? What is that going on? Well, his body language makes it seem like he doesn't love the outfit. He just seems very sad. I'm assuming he's got a backpack on, right? He's definitely got a backpack on or he's just hunched over crazy. And then like a little purse in a way regardless. That's a brick. That's a brick. We're going to get cards. Okay. Okay. Jason Tatum, little little beach flair. I don't hate it to be. I mean, look, I like pink, obviously. So I don't hate this. What do you guys think? I love the salmon ones. I absolutely. Is that a cardigan? Like what is, I don't understand what's going on there. Shout out, JT. Cool guy. Was this, where was this game played to? Cause I feel like that has a little bit of, this is a Miami game. It's gotta be Miami. Yeah. It's acceptable. I don't, do I love it? No, but it's, it's not as bad as the first time we saw. All right. Maybe the top different bottoms that maybe we'll do that. Um, yeah. The Celine bag. There's a world where I'm in much, much better physical shape. And this is exactly how I dress every day. This is, I'm with it. I like this. This is a fit to me. That is confidence, man. Stop it at least. I mean, my man, the Prada loafers, the Prada shoe. That's the loafers or fire. You know what? I like the loafers and I like the, and I like the white socks with the black loafers. It's just these guys are, they're watching too much fashion week and too many runway shows because no, no, I can't, I can't, I won't. Eddie's acting like the pant. We just, we just glossed over those pant things, whatever those were. Okay, fine. Uh, Darius Basely. Yay. That's very, and I know we're not allowed to say his name anymore. Very Cosby show sweater. Listen, this is, this is, this is more of my vibe. This, yeah, this is more casual. I'm not, I'm not rolling with the hat, but this is, this is better to me. It's a great photo, by the way. All right. That's going to do it for us on this Wednesday for Chandler, Eddie for Shams. We'll be gone, but we'll see you Monday. Enjoy the rest of your week.