 There's a breakfast in post-TV Africa. We're about to go through the papers this morning looking at the front pages of a National Dailies We have Chris Kende who joins the conversation in no time. Chris, it's good to have you join us Thank you for having me. Good morning. I'm Raqqa the Salah. Good morning to you Sike. All right. Happy holiday We take a look at the daily independent newspaper and the focus would be on, you know The top stories or bold caption. Buhari not part of plot to draft Jonathan into Presidential race. That's what the president says Quota to say Buhari not part of plot to draft Jonathan into presidential race It's what we're reading on the daily independent away from that you have debt toll rises to 10 in Lagos building collapse Desist from further external borrowings. Anglican say not advices the federal government I mean the fact that the church is interested is a serious issue if zoning is buried Nigeria is buried saddened middle-belt leaders tell not in elders Interesting caption. We must cut down on cost of governance says OB Pita will be also a presidential aspirant for 2023 and Kaduna train attack federal government working on savory 10 of Abducted passengers. That's what the president himself is quoted to say Reveals bandit are using abducted peasants as shield against rescue efforts. These is I mean, this is a practice is very common Three killed as sit-at-home order holds in Anambra These are the headlines on the daily independent newspaper Right away from the daily independent who will move on next to the daily Tribune The lead story for this morning Cluck at the banjo-obyosa to Neff. That's the northern elders forum Dumping zoning will kill Berry Nigeria other stories making Headlines wall press freedom day media freedom under attack in Nigeria city editors or the writer there are one federal government to make Newsprings broadcast equipment consumables tax-free FIFA finds Nigeria 63.9 million narrow for fans misconduct after Ghana March All right, God will show the way la one unported presidential ambition. I will hand over to any one Nigerians Elect, that's the president saying president Mohammed the Buhari Gunmen strike again in a number a kill policeman six others That's the wake of him the seat at home Going on there in a number of state Buhari tweets for the first time since federal government lifted ban on tweet her P2P heads for appeal court over a ruling on conduct of primary election Thank you 23 rescued in Lagos three-story building collapse Train attack bandits using captives as human shield That's according to president Muhammad Buhari. Those are the stories on the front page of the Nigerian Tribune Away from the Nigerian Tribune. Let's take a look at the nation newspaper this morning terrorists use captives as human shield says president Muhammad the Buhari That's a boat caption underneath. You have service chiefs should locate eliminate criminals IGP or IG deploys surveillance choppers Away from that boat caption and the nation you also have another head of saying campaign for APC PDP presidential ticket hot up Reschedule debts get more loans. I am of tells Nigeria really who's interest Do you have this conversation? I mean really we have to deal with I am for a very long time until we Understand that we don't need to Lagos collapse building 10 dead 23 rescued Nigeria uses a 5.04 trillion narrow annually to headache farmer conflicts Disqualified PDP presidential aspirant face panel today, and I'm sure you want to find out the outcome National assembly workers serve strike notice over wage at the time where you I mean we just celebrated workers They it's a lot to talk about but these are the headlines on the nation this morning Finally, we'll take a look at the leadership newspaper Despite PMB's marching orders to service chiefs many Nigerians still trapped in captivity Abundance prowl the North with several writers there 1,908 kidnapped 4,233 killed between January and April this year gunmen behead military couple in emo We are working on safer turn of kidnapped victims. The president is quoted in that Be ruthless on bandits terrorists army chief all these troops Most stories are world-press freedom day media freedom under attack in Nigeria according to editors PDP perspons neck meeting the first decision on zoning till May the 10th Both are reopening importers agents recount losses of two-year closure My presidential ambition mere speculation says the one death toll in Lagos building collapse rises to 10 State of the nation can the class 3 day prayers cautions politicians and Let's see. I think those are all the stories on the front page of the leadership newspaper this morning Let's have Chris came they want to join the conversation this morning We'll start off with the daily independent newspaper now Chris On the daily independent newspaper, I mean the presidency is responding to the Allegation if you like to say that's been put out that the president has a support I mean it's part of the plot to ensure that good luck Jonathan returns to the race But yeah, you have the presidency saying he has no reason I mean supporters of The former president are saying that you know all of this has been sorted out well, it's good that the president is coming out to you with that Statements because nobody weeks a lot of people believe that because of the Simile closeness of the former president Will or Jonathan to Correpres that and the way he has been frequently in Asura That is the subject support for his Ambition to Come back to office in 2023. But personally, I would just look at those things as most clean I don't see good luck Jonathan coming back for whatever reason. I personally feel that For his own integrity personality and whatever he did has done I think he's just stay out of this and just enjoy his retirement. Don't forget that the same Government since 2015 he's all his problem on good luck. You're not until today Anything that went wrong with this government Reflect with good luck. You know If there's no fuel very quiet to Jonathan the level of insecurity is Jonathan economic rules is Jonathan lack of infrastructure is Jonathan division among Nigerian Let me stay and rest of them is good. I don't know so practically if you are happy to play an individual like good or Jonathan to be the man behind all the mood Well, it's been since 2015 to date. How come we are now also try to cut his His membership to come apply the flag of the APC as it were so all these days I should have been in sick He should have been sick resort or bet to me Do not turn good luck. Do not turn yourself. It's not it's not a happy matters Remember a few days ago when some people So called supporters went to his office to protest. It was neither here nor there This he was not contest in all he said that he's consulting. I will get back to Nigeria city of course that to me Is noted That's they have left room for a stipulation bet. I'm good enough that the Government but let's quickly I mean look at this before we move away. I mean just in with the other People now. Do you think that if the presidency or the president wasn't support of Jonathan's return? He would actually own up to it. Let's also not forget that There was a time the president talked about he can't make known. I mean disclosing his favorite because You know, whoever he might be supporting might be killed these are some of the words of the president had put out prior to this time and We know that sometimes with the speculative we see a lot of manifestation. So Do you think that? This would have been different if the president was supporting would he own up to you to say that? Yes, he's supporting Jonathan to be back in the race There's no way the president will know Jonathan is not a member of the AP starting to the best of my knowledge So in what way will you come out to say support a PDP member to become the presidential flag bearer of APC? That is absolutely possible. So except we are not to that people don't have to speak up membership of APC but even at that if we decide to run it's not going to be a One a racetrack for him. There are so many other presidential aspirants In the APC so he has to go out and the slogan talk with them for For the party to pick up his presidential candidate before me as I say, I believe this is just more like a diversionary And it's mostly I don't see good luck Jonathan coming to contest the 2023 presidential election All right CK and let's stay with the daily independent There's still the talk of from zoning if zoning is buried Nigeria is buried southern a Middle Belt leaders tell it or tell Northern elders there seems to be no end in sight. It does issue of zoning Do you think it will make or my elections in 2023? Yeah, it will go a long way But my own personal concern is not even whether what not is thinking is the attitude of the leaders of the south the aspirants from the south if there's no unity or purpose among the candidates from the south southern part of the country as I'm seeing it now if the south is south west and south So I cannot come together people to forge a common force among themselves Then you can be rest assured that the presidency will go back to 2023 So it is only when those Politicians in the south leave their greed and selfishness and see that there's a That is the need for them to be able to forge a common force against the tsunami that is coming from the north Then you will see that them don't be able to get it in 20 days So irrespective of what everybody says zoning to us not zoning to us a problem is good There a problem is being created and you don't know where this is coming from some say it's from the notice Don't forget just three days ago We heard although it's a public source associated that even the senior president La one I made We'll be we'll be throwing his rights into the ring in the north. You already see people like Tambua You have seen a Ticua bubaka. You have seen a baller Mohammed and the Salaki and a lot of them saying that I'm going to contest in 2023 that business speaks volume, but in the south what we have you see also Those from the south west are not trusting those from the south is those from the south side Don't seems to be saying all sorts of things I guess those from the south ways and south west So that has become the game and where they are only Irrespective of whatever Panda for whatever says if there's those units of purpose among Politicians from the south then you can rest assured that the north which is a much much coerce Coherent Can just decide to just go go for it and the magnetic advantage of the division within the south and get it in 22 Let's also look at the nation. They talks about which structure or rescheduled debts and get more loans I mean, this is I am of speaking to African countries including Nigeria How do you react to this juxtaposing that with the fact that if you look at our debt profile right now? We're heading towards maybe 50 trillions Miss if I borrow your money, I'm gonna tell you what you could take the money to now Now so if I borrow you money, I go put my eye for the money now I borrow you say you come to borrow money from me or take money from me and that you want to use is it and Buying goods in your shop and the next night. See you at one. Oh, I'm there wearing 500,000 lids. I got asked to see waiting now. You'll get my money where I'm now So that is what is happening. He who goes abhorring where sorority if we continue as far as Africa continue to go to the IMF and International Monetary Fund the International Monetary Fund a World Bank and Western countries to borrow money. They will always determine what happens and that is where we find ourselves. So for me Way to this economic reliant I've been to be able to show that our self and handle our responsibilities as Try try as much as possible to be financially independent of most of the states Is that possible? It is not totally possible because there is no country in the world that not even the United States But the bureau understand and you use it for infrastructure What happens in Africa? Our government bureau and use it to decide to pay salaries and also to be traveling around the globe instead of investing in K infrastructure. That is very problem. So the IMF wall is determined to tell you what to do And if you don't do that, they just plug it in. They just off the plug and you'll be in jail Situations, that's the solution. We find ourselves in Africa and Nigeria All right This one seems to be taking its impact on the nation's Economy and of course so what we should be making the herder farmer conflict on the nation newspaper The nation aptly captures it this way Nigeria loses five point zero four trillion Naira yearly to herder farmer conflict How does this some P2 she can? It's part of fortunate. We know things But I don't think it used to be what I don't think the situation Is what it used to be in few years Some years back. I remember what used to happen in Benway play to Tarabah most of this other sticks and It was a very very terrible situation where farmers were killed in their farm and that's cost a lot of a lot of Problems and which especially in the North Central But I think that has really come down now. What we are facing now is banditry kidnapping And that part of those a kidnapping and vanity also involved most of the people going into the farms and kidnapping farmers and Ascending for ransom that in itself has affected the prices of good and services, which are Lee Full stop if you know what? The to bow a bit of yam costs now a bag of fries tomatoes Vegetable name them So for me, I think it's a wake up call and there's nothing that Pricing that is not to be all you need to do is to into any of the markets near you and you see the prices of Commodities have scarocketed and these are not and it's funny enough. These are not things we import We don't import most of these things. These are things that we grow here So I think we should be able to the first and foremost we need to handle this shopping security Once we can handle this issue of insecurity then There will be a growth in our economy. I'm not going to be able to die down, but are we doing the needful? I don't think so Quickly on the leadership. You also have another header that talks about border reopening as importers and agents Complain about or recounts their loss. I mean for almost You know, how many years now? What do you make of this? Firsts, what do you think about the fact that the border has been reopened? Others have queried. What was the essence of closing the border in the first instance? The question you asked yourself, we are the borders actually closed We are the border actually close. Yes, they may look Which are down on the one After but I refuse and rest of them begs for every two three I think about how many you have less than ten people that are close about six or there about you have over 1,000 Borders open so even if you close the one in same or the one By continue or what the one in Casino wherever there are still a thousand and one other routes Where people in ports or moving Smoking things into the country. We have one of the most porous borders in the world and we cannot mind them So Whether they open it or not rice are the smoke if you go to the markets all about Nigeria You see smoke would rise all of them the what's when you see the cost of doing is going Now leaving their job that is supposed to be and be going into people's shop and breaking that shop and trying to cut away Those those rice that is not the right thing to do. That's what you should be able to manage But so I believe that we should be able to equip our custom equipped in Nigerian migration service and already five agencies that That that that take care of our borders to make sure that most of these things are not Let's get into the country, but most of part of the not even if we buy the petroleum Why we have so much pressure on on the prices of people is Particularly close to about 30 or 40 percent of the petroleum that's coming to Nigeria Taking as a decontinue a smoke out of the desk to take it to me in the jail public taking to chat Republic Cameroon and the rest of them to the border and a security agency since most of these things so For me is neither here nor there whether we are closing on opening if we don't do the right foot in there So why then do we have these importers and agents complaining about the loss that they have experience? The loss they are complaining is the fact that most of these important things is telling on their own products If you are if you are given a free room for such importation like this are coming in definitely is going to affect the prices of Goods manufactured in Nigeria. So if we're bringing a box of rice That's at a very less right most of these ships to bats in a cotono And they use the land is to move it into Nigeria because they cannot move into the port and the rice coming from Thailand China Or whatever because about 18,000 Naira and the one that is producing at I at a aback leaky in a Boeing state Hey, or is a KB or whatever some of this state and it's going for about 30 28,000 27,000 Naira What you want do you think Nigerians we buy that is the situation that is what they are complaining that these borders Open a screen but what I'm saying is that whether you close the border I don't we don't close it people are still finding a way of thinking in most of this And we should find a much better way of money this but that's so that this thing can be stopped All right, Chris today is our world press freedom day Nigerian Tribune Captions this way media freedom under attack in Nigeria say editors Let's examine how the press Or how free the press has been in Nigeria since this dispensation. How would you rate it? I'm a journalist If I'm to rate it, I would say we are not doing badly Sincerely, we're not doing badly Look at what we're coming from from 1984 the digital decree for down to the military era And from 1990 90 days, I don't think we're doing bad. We can do better My problem has always been that access to information has become a big problem for us as journalists Don't forget that the freedom of information Be who are passing through law and in now most It was a journalist a media piece not immediate. It is a Nigerian bill But most of them say that as a journalist if you want to use that law to be able to assess information Especially we didn't go many agencies. There are so many hordes that you have to pass that at the end of it So, you know, we're able to do that. So I think not so much to be done to be able to Make sure that that's the access to information is a make easier for us to be able to work as journalists Then secondly for me is also The problem with most of the media houses, they are grumbling and they are practically choking so many of them cannot pay salaries of their Journalists or workers or colleagues some are going as much as 10 months 11 months 12 months alive So we will even go when you try to talk up with them. They say we are giving you a Was it an ID card which would be a mitigate for you that in this ever brought a lot of on a tickle Behavior by journalists because a hungry man is an angry man I might not be himself when he goes that day to be able to do his job I said this is that he might be able to just drop the ball. So those are the part of the Problem and say I'm also we are living in a country also just like journalists are Nigerians We are really the pains of the economy. We are feeling what is going on. So But in terms of freedom, I think we've been given a some free hands. I've been There be a situation where the government choose some agencies want to get the media here and don't forget the especially with the TV station when born come up with some laws and some sanctions on the broker stations We broke out find them certain money and rest of them, but all well and good I think we are still much much better than most African countries For now the present Quickly on the nation before we move away and call it a wrap on the paper review You have Nigerian loses five point zero four trillion narrow Annually to farmer head a conflict. Is there a possibility for us to save this money? I mean because it looks like we're losing money every other time. I Think we have discussed this initially the headers promise And I've spoken about it before quickly let me let me let me talk a bit about them the level of a security in in the south is now Since it seems not to be a beating just three days ago a couple so just we are killed and beheaded in my state of That to me is the moon crystal Act that can be performed by any what that means that the humanity in us is gone And I I hope that the security agencies especially the army would do everything my possibility fish out The people behind that starts where you did not only Kill the the couple both of them that they went out this through this member Their body and two pictures of those things and I'm splash it on social media that to me is a terrible It is it's really horrible for me. And then if you do everything money possible to make sure that those behind those Bridges yesterday again. Is it at home? So the killing in an umbrella this time what? New governor Charles Louder is doing to stem the issue of his security in under arrest it isn't that them the unknown government or non-government still had been in making sure that The states remain insecure and that brings me to the to the leaders and governments of the South East They have to come together Presently, I would say that the South West is the most secured region in this country the South West and reason for this Is because of a motorcycle a bug who was agreed and approved by the governors of the South East in now They've not done anything about it. So when they come through to talk about insecurity or treat me as myself What are they doing? Don't they say what I can't about in the south what is they are doing and making sure that They can do more and I think that's true Finally run his pillow start South Eastern governors and make sure that issue of a bug who comes to the front and that's a security agency should be put in place But back to the issue of That's farmers. I've said what we need to say. We need to spend the issue of the security across But so that people can be safe to go back to the farm if they can do that we have enough to produce and we have enough to Produce over reliance or just good for him is not in Nigeria any good So every alternative we can make to be able to make money get supporting the exchange would be good for Nigeria All right. Thank you so much Chris Kane the one do chartered mediator and conciliator Thanks for all the thought you have shared on the stories that made headlines on the front pages this morning. Would you appreciate your time? Thank you very much. I mean All right, it's still the breakfast ahead of straight to what happened this day in history and when we return we'll be having our first Conversation of the day stay with us