 Camera as one for the audience and one for the speaker and then somebody with the microphone moving the yeah for whereas and this actually helps the people you know that couldn't make it to the end to to the dev comes to actually follow the talk and usually they they quite appreciate it and the video team provide training so there's no requirement at all to have video experience or camera experience anything like that you can just say it sounds something that sounds fun to do and you also get a special yellow t-shirt there's a question in the audience or in the participants rather over here or intervention from the from from someone like microphone please I know I think it's not really necessary for this session necessarily but let's get into the habit of using the microphone correctly yeah hi my name is Oliver right so this is more of an inquiry about not specifically video but I kind of interested in photography stills and while I see the hard efforts of the video team I'm not sure is there really like photo so maybe if we hand the microphone to the person sitting at the front of the room yeah I'm I guess basically the photo team on the way but I think you can probably take more members exactly yeah I've been running around and taking pictures of everything and so most of the most of the time I end up missing most of the talks so if somebody else would take up some of the slack and have more pictures taken that that would improve the coverage definitely and reduce the stress how do you plan to publish the photos and so forth well yeah the photos are basically from the previous day already published in my Google plus stream and tweeting them and posting to our sea and stuff like that and they'll be promoted through more official channels later on as well especially when they're finished for all of that yeah as far how to cooperate explicitly with the other photographers taking pictures that specific point has not been worked upon yet before so and that's a very open area of coordination have you been involved as a photographer of death for several editions of death come for all the ones that I've been to which is how many years approximately since Oslo yeah I think that's dark and for Oslo was 2003 three so yeah for a long time but yeah there's there's plenty of plenty of moments to take and not enough eyes to see them and not enough cameras to take them maybe it's not the key focus of the of the conference but it helps for people to also the conference to see what's what's happening where the cameras don't have the coverage the video cameras don't have the coverage and also see some some more details and more insights as well so you mentioned I've been involved or attending some they've come have you like been differences in in the photography aspects so to speak like or have you you mentioned you were more or less the only photographer here right at this camp that confuses kind of are you used to this or have it like just give a little historic perspective basically well back to the the topic of this of encouraging volunteers when I when I started and I came to David and came to that conf I'm not a great coder let's just say it like that I'm much better at taking photos and what what I what I try to focus on at that conf is try to provide as best photo coverage so that the rest of the of the participants don't feel the need to bring their cameras and take pictures so that they can focus more on the coding and I feel that by this way I can provide more overall code impact than by coding myself and so that's that's why I became involved so one of the ways that people can get involved and volunteer for that conf as well is to see what people what coder what people in depth conf that would like to be coding what are they doing instead of coding and maybe you can help them reduce that non-productive time and help with that I found the the photography niche maybe there is some other things that are not covered and you know maybe somebody else can you can find something else yes so I mean a lot of the most of the volunteer jobs during DevCon are non-technical ones there are in fact some technical things that need help as well if you are sitting in this room but really looking for a new technical project then there are things like helping with the improving the conference management system where there's actually been some coding done during this week to fix a couple of things even the point they were noticed during DevCon but most of the roles are non-technical things I mean other things you can see again if you walk around the conference you'll see people doing different things like for example the front desk I the moment the front desk actually seemed to have already found a lot of volunteers by recruiting people as they arrived so I don't know if they heavily need people or not but certainly that's something that people some people may be interested in if they've if they're more he wants to say something oh yeah yeah great there are lots of things where just in a lot another point about the volunteering during DevCon is just that a lot of times there's you can spot something needs done or in fact some local team person may just be looking for someone to help do something boring like carry some stuff around and obviously most people are kind of willing to do that but again it's good if there's some people who are really actively kind of looking out for little instances where they can help and just make sure everything works smoothly I think there will still be some extra volunteers possibly wanted for things like helping get people to the right place on the day trip this kind of thing as well and the cheese and wine party as well yeah the cheese and wine party should should I expect Stoney's volunteers that's another important event in the DevCon calendar can we pass the microphone over here then for to hear something about front desk work so front desk is a very easy place to volunteer we usually have one person who has access to the the internal system where you have to take off the people who have registered but the main thing we need help with is just pulling out the right t-shirt size pulling up the person's badge we've kind of got an assembly line going for that you also get people wandering up just looking for help like where do I find the room for this session or what's coming up on the schedule so we have like a printed piece there so a lot of it the rest of it's just kind of pointing people in the right direction that's pretty much it so out to the people well if they don't want to ask a question back about that are you kind of happy maybe you can repeat the question as well on the microphone he's asking how did I get involved in front desk I'm actually one of the local organizers for this year so that's why I'm helping out but there's other folks who just wandered up and started volunteering so I think that's we can probably let you get back if you're if you want but um out to the people in this room are there people who are gent who as the kind of in theoretical purpose of this session should be are genuinely looking for something to do um or are you is a people too scared to uh raise their hand to admit that I see some new phrases to me but I don't know whether you're just um using the room as somewhat convenient to IRC from or whether you actually would like to find an some volunteer thing to do um if there's anyone in particular then we can probably find you something that's all um but if you prefer to lurk that's also fine is anyone raising their hand apparently not so for the people other people I see quite a sense I see quite a lot of people in the room who are I think actually have been around in DevConf and in Debian for some time um while leaving open the option for anyone to jump up and say I really need to find something to fill my time on Tuesday afternoon or whatever it happens to be um I was going to say a little bit about the fact that some of the people in the room I know are again long-term DevConf participants and may have helped to lesser or greater degrees at different individual DevConfs but as well as helping at the DevConfs we are also always looking for people to get involved more with the longer term um year to year DevConf processes although clearly a lot of the work needs to be done by people who are local um to actually be able to go and um speak face to face with venue managers or this kind of thing there's a lot of stuff in DevConf that happens that makes the conference a success when it happens but it's done in advance remotely um this is that that's talk can you tell me when it's big enough to actually read anything I don't know how bad or good people's eyesight are is is that legible okay so I mean this is a page in the DevConf wiki uh with the imaginative title of jobs and this just does a load of different ways people can help on different things again some of these are listed as things that are better done locally although even within those areas it's actually good if people from who've got longer term DevConf experience also get involved to give advice and help do things um that's things like the venue arrangements um helping people arrange that go get traveled information helping people get visas if they're coming to some um country that requires it um there's a lot of things actually where we we really don't have enough volunteers at the moment for some of these boring tasks I say boring but I'm sure they are very very interesting if you can uh approach them in the right manner um so Martin was saying that he's been doing for example some of the kind of accounting um for DevConf and that's the kind of thing where it's really vital to have it happen but it's hard often in a out of the set of people who are just coming to a DevConf say it's hard to find find people who have the right experience and the right um and are willing to actually spend time to do that even though clearly it's completely vital that we have a a good set of accounts to show where the money's actually gone at the end of the conference um the same I think at this I don't think actually this year we have a we managed to get a real volunteer to do kind of invent specifically to do inventory tracking for example that just means keeping track of all the equipment that we put into the into the building um lots of which comes for is lent from into individual people or comes from some standard Debian equipment used from year to year um that's an example it's really good to have some years we've had someone who focused on that and made sure everything was labeled and listed and documented and then at the end of the conference it's then very easy to get it all back to the right place in the years when that doesn't happen you suddenly find that three years later your store trying to get the power strip back to someone or whatever it happens to be um conference volunteers stuff is what I was talking about to start with but again at the moment we again kind of don't have enough people well we tend to get people to do the individual jobs the task of coordinating those people tends just to fall back on the local team people so here it's kind of falls back on maybe Steve and Patty um but they obviously actually have a lot of other things that they have to need to think about during the conference period so again if if we have anyone who's interested in just helping to coordinate other volunteers that's also something that we could really do with more help on um this year we don't have a specific Debian day or open day from the conference but again in some years someone has taken has taken that of saying well how can we really try to interact with the local community in the place where we're holding the conference and maybe have a day where the talks that are scheduled that that day are more talk more ones that are more let more understandable from people from outside the project more of general interest to people interested in free software um but again it's something that it kind of when it's happened in the past it's mostly fallen back on the local team people to do it but they have so many other priorities in the period leading up to debcov that it's if we're going to have it it's something that could really do with someone who wants to push that from year to year um maybe who's even if they're remote um the day trip and conference dinner tend to be actually something that's quite fun for the locals to organize but they still always need help to actually make the practicalities work and again just someone who's willing to equally in the period leading up to the conference is good to have someone who's interested in those topics um and can make suggestions do research check prices whatever is needed um then a lot of the other areas of debcov organization you don't even need to have any particular that doesn't need to be any particular local work done but it's something that needs to happen and again these are the kind of things where it's it really is a big help if we can get people who want to help in these areas and push them again to relieve the pressure from the local organizers a bit so one of the biggest areas there again I don't know if anyone in this here has who's not already hopping with it has experience in the area but you may have noticed that debcov doesn't have a compulsory registration fee that we pay for food and accommodation for a lot of participants that we pay travel for some number of participants and obviously to make that possible we need to do a lot of fundraising um again in debbie and in general most people are not experts in fundraising a lot of people find it something that's kind of scary or doesn't sound at all interesting to do because it's basically hassling people about giving you money which is not really the well is a productive thing to do but not the most relaxing way to spend your time um but again we we're always every year we're short on people to help in that area and I'm sure there I don't know I don't know about people in this room but I'm sure maybe you know someone else in debbie and or someone else at debcov who you think would have an aptitude for that and could help out there again treasury accounting so and we have some some people who do a little bit but we can always we could do with a lot more help there I think more people more hands would be useful um again another area and most most people in debcov are not a told expert on dealing with media things um we could do with if the if you or no if you are have experience at doing things with media or as in dealing with press or if you know someone else who is even if they're not really involved with debbie and at the moment then maybe that's a good way to get them to make a contribution um because again it's it's not well it's not strictly vital it's really a good thing if we can have some um local coverage or some kind of international coverage just to show that debbie and is having a conference and is doing useful things um maybe a few again there are more technical ways again to help remotely things like helping design websites helping with admin is an infrastructure for various servers that we have I think I mentioned video team already one task that will be coming up imminently and is again not a it's something that often gets left behind a bit is the production of a final report for the conference basically that's just a collection of articles about different aspects of the conference plus some kind of budget information other more numerical stuff about what's happened so again we're always looking for people who can volunteer to write one or two articles there maybe on just just Martin wants to say something well it's fine if we have the microphone um about the final report there isn't really like there are a couple of articles that have to be written but what is also incredibly useful is if you feel super happy about a day and you just want to write you know a paragraph or three sentences about um what you experienced on that day and how it really helped you contribute to debt being or whether you forged friendships and whatever write that and send it to us or commit it directly I mean maybe it's not going to end up in the final report maybe it's going to end up in another final report in the future years a quote or in the sponsorship brochure but materials like this coming from attendees is very very helpful and that applies to photos as well which I guess is taken care of but some people also are doing photos and sometimes they are just shots they're too good to pass up the opportunity so I mean then coming again coming just down the list there's a lot of job different jobs to do with talks in the conference in practical terms uh I don't know exactly I don't actually know how it's being coordinated this year I don't know if Martin knows or someone else um about the kind of talk master stuff that we is do you know it does anyone know what's happening video team so over the last few days we've been short quite dramatically of people on the video team um ideally there wants to be somebody to look after each talk uh let somebody know at the start how long they've got warm people when they've got 10 minutes five minutes to go uh introduce the talks um this year video team seemed to be doing that to an extent so please let yourself be known if you you know if you're just sitting in a conference and you can spend five five minutes in a room with us at the start and at the end of the talk volunteer just for that talk um we could always deal with the help yeah and that's I mean you can just go to talks you wanted to go to anyway so yeah the two guys are cameras literally didn't over on cameras until they walked into the room and just said I can help and yeah so thank you then at a wider level of talk stuff um there's even during the conference period there's a need for kind of people who are checking about talk scheduling which can means um scheduling new events but it also includes again it's very useful if someone actually checks whether the people who are speakers have genuinely turned up to the conference and whether they are awake that particular day for example um we have had some problems before where we had to try and drag speakers out of bed uh 10 minutes after their talk started which is not really ideal um and again in the in the period leading up to the conference more than just now but it's something you could volunteer for now and be involved with in future years there's the need for people who look at the talk submissions we've got and do the kind of filtering and and scheduling of the main program to say what what do we actually want to include in the schedule for the next year's conference um and also there there's a space to go out and actively encourage a few people where where it seems there's maybe there's a topic that seems to be particularly relevant in Debian at the time and we can actually go out and reach out to someone to try and persuade them to give a talk on that or again to get people who are a high profile within Debian in particular key roles to actively encourage them to agree some kind of talk idea that would be good for everyone to have the time to listen to and to discuss um again again in terms of filtering or ranking and so on there's the need for people who would volunteer to help with allocating who actually is eligible for um the different kinds of sponsorship and bursaries we give um obviously for that it's good if you've been maybe if you've been involved in Debbie in a few years already so that you have some idea who people are just to mean a lot of the information that you should be able to get by just searching for people but obviously it's a lot quicker to do it if you have some idea who they are and does what they're saying about their plans for Debian so it makes sense um again it's it's it's something that actually has some kind of um power or influence but it's not something that's necessarily attractive to everyone to to to spend the time to do but clearly these are all jobs that we really need some they need to happen to make the conference work well um again during both in advance of the conference and during the conference again we need people who will do things like um allocate the rooms in the accommodation and again make sure who hasn't actually turned up should we is there some problem that means we need to move people around this kind of thing again often we'll get a few some attendees who need to cancel at the last moment and other people who turn up with three extra family members they hadn't expected to bring and we suddenly we need to find some solution of how this how all these things work each of these each of these roles doesn't necessarily need to be time consuming but it does become too much if you have one a couple of people trying to do too many of these things at once so um for many of these jobs the best is if there's really one person who can just take take a particular role and just be the be the known contact for attendees for that area and just can't just again enjoy the conference as normal but when there's an issue in that particular topic they can deal with it calmly because they're not already being busy with 20 other jobs as well and again on technical things we would we could do with more people to help with the administration of various um the websites and so on to do with debcon and also for uh things to do with the debcon email lists in fact for quite a lot of stuff to do with the websites and email lists there's been a an agreed agreement since a couple of years ago that we would do a migration of these from the current um debcon sort of infrastructure on to more standard debian infrastructure but again we need some people to actually um take that and do the work there um which is again it's obviously easier if it's people it's easier in a way if it's people who are already familiar with the relevant infrastructure but it can also be a way for someone new to the project to get familiar with the infrastructure generally in in debcon as in the rest of debian if you take any of these kind of jobs of course it's uh you you meet the other people you can learn how things work in the area learn some technical things get some uh just um normally people find that if they start doing one thing it's it's easy to expand into doing others later um i don't know again some of the people here who are new faces maybe it's they're still looking for something to do within debian in general i'm not sure um i i don't really want to say a lot more for myself but i don't do some people have other points or questions i'm well i i was just gonna add a little bit to what you just said um and specifically in regards of the future um i mean we are at this conference right now and it's as you said people are who are already helping are probably like too stressed to actually be able to manage volunteers so that is an important aspect to keep in mind um and that goes very well with the with the spirit of the conference itself which we like to call an unconference every now and then so it's really your conference if you want to do something just do it and generally that works um until somebody slaps you because you've clearly done something wrong but uh you know that you have to do a lot of things wrong before that happens so if you want to organize an event do it if you want if you see someone carrying stuff help you know that that's the sort of way to get involved but in terms of the future um we already know that there is dc15 happening in germany next year and uh if you are interested in getting involved then pop on to our channel onto our mailing list and just you know just idle have a look maybe there's something you can pick up and then beyond dc15 there is dc16 and dc17 and well one of the greatest ways i have to say to get involved in debconf is to become a volunteer by organizing a conference from the very start on so um if you are interested or if you you know let's not say if you're interested if you have this have an potential spark in your head right now that says yeah you know i could probably do this find some people in my town and find a venue and so on i think you can i think you can do it um it's a lot of work but um if you start early and and you're committed to it then you can do it and i at least for my part i would be happy to chat with anyone who has these ideas who wants to uh think about doing debcon 15 uh 16 18 21 whatever um and if you have any questions or unclearities about what's involved and how to start and this and that then i find any one of us and then talk to us because uh this is a great time to form ideas and at the end of the week you would even get to present your idea that's it from me is anyone else want to ask a question or say anything tell us what okay i was just curious who i would hi kathy uh is it the video team that is doing the captions the titling subtitling there is a separate well i did videos there's a there's a different group of people um which i is does anyone know if tassia is still is pushing that or someone else who is who's oh sorry sorry i'm i'm we miss remembering entirely oh i i don't know if anyone is taking care of that yet this year i i had no you did some subtitling before didn't you or not or no or am i just making that up uh yeah so can you say something about what i know it's not the question but can you say something about the subtitling how because not some people so how do you do the job uh we can find that together if you i just don't remember what we used but it was like to to use that god i helped francesca but uh yeah we can find out what the structure was and but i think i've not heard of anyone doing this job yet this year anything else from people or are we just i come to a close i think we can all go back to our RSE then okay thank you for coming i hope some of you will now actually have heard something interesting that you would like to volunteer for in debcon for and that we will get some see some new people helping in different ways um i hope i haven't scheduled off thanks for coming anyway so What do you mean? It's completely... It looks like it's very... Um, what? Is there a reason? Oh, there is one thing about... It's done a lot... It's... It's been... It's been what? It's been 20 minutes. It's been 20 minutes. It's been 20 minutes. It's been 20 minutes. 20 minutes. It's been 20 minutes. Yes, 20 minutes. It's done a lot. Um... No, it's be 25... 20 minutes. Yes. So... It's been 20 minutes. It's been 20 minutes. It's been 20 minutes. It's been 20 minutes. Yes, I think it's... Thank you so much, thank you so much. Stay down, stay down. I'm going to write down my test results and just give you a bit of a summary of where the fit is. So, Doug, you know who that is. He's going to be the next person for a while. I'm going to talk to you about all the skills that are from the start of the course. I'm going to take a look at the test results from the test now. I'm going to ask you guys to zoom in on some years for a particular reason. More than ever, there's sign-up sheets at the front. Is there any particular session that you specifically want to help out on? Just go inside yourself and decide what you want to do. More importantly, even if you're coming into a talk, if you find that there's nobody stood by either of the two cameras or whatever, just grab one or grab whoever's in the room and just say, I'm quite happy to be able to do that. We need just a short time for the speakers and if they might... Running around, that's always needed. Every talk's got 45 minutes, I'd say. We've got a 10-minute, 5-minute, 10-minute and take them off, drag them out of the room or whatever. It doesn't matter if it goes over for 5 minutes, but having that 15 minutes between talks gives people who have volunteered shots to get to the talk that they wanted to attend next and fit some pieces, so it helps. Do you know where the batteries are? No, I haven't seen any. I was about to come and ask you that question. Thank you. No problem. So, actually, oh my god. So, on my bed, there is a TV switch. It goes here. What up? Hello. It goes here. So... I'm going to be your speaker. I'm going to switch it up. I'm going to switch it up. I'm going to switch it up. I'm going to switch it up.