 You're listening to Barbell Logic brought to you by Barbell Logic Online Coaching where each week we take a systematic walk through strength training and the refining power of voluntary hardship Welcome to the Barbell Logic podcast and happy Father's Day to you all all the guys are listening to us And you know everybody else is listening to us. You guys have dads too And so happy Father's Day to all happy Father's Day to you Chris. Happy Father's Day to you Matt. Thank you So we were we thought to be fun for Father's Day Just to take a little stroll down memory lane and we're gonna talk mostly about our memories of Of our lives growing up and then also what it was like in our early years of lifting we haven't talked about that a lot and also our perception of the other during those times would be would will be fun to talk about but First off want to say happy Father's Day to dad. I made a very emotional post on on my Instagram a year ago I don't really post on Instagram anymore about dad and said that that would be my last Father's Day with dad And it still might be because we're recording this a little bit ahead But I saw dad for the first time yesterday in about five months They let me finally go in and see him in the kind of early post COVID and You know it was tough. So he wasn't he's not in good shape He's in he's in hospice and the guy's dying and But man, he was a great dad and I'm thankful for him he loved our mom and loved us tremendously and treated us well and Taught us a lot of good lessons and also there were a lot of lessons. I wish he had taught us that he didn't but but I learned lessons there. I actually think that's a good thing because I've learned things that I said to myself these are lessons are important for me to teach my kids because because my dad didn't teach me that and I don't hold any animosity there against him at all Man, he did the best he could and again I think the most important thing is that you you love your kids well and he loved us well So happy Father's Day to dad who will definitely not listen to this but mom probably will so happy Father's Day to to mom as well and And yeah, it's I'm I'm ready for for pops to to not have to suffer anymore. That's for sure It was such a fascinating thing I I learned so much from dad, especially in the last In the last several years that I was especially that I was in Springfield and we were able to take these fishing trips together and stuff. It was just Definitely in early life. I mean like nobody knows what they're doing as a dad, you know, and he didn't either But his ability to reflect on it later Was fantastic and I got very cathartic. Oh extremely so I mean that he could say even himself like whoo I didn't do well on that, you know And some of the things we were just tells a story that was kind of funny from our childhood and dad would be like Oh, I didn't I didn't do that. Well you know, but you learn a lot through that process and He was so good at Really at listening to something that he disagreed with agreeably that was also something's fascinating So dad and I saw the world from very different perspectives But could talk to each other and and be good friends at the end of it Which was yeah, that's you not everybody has that relationship with a parent And so I appreciate that Yeah, the three of us especially on things like religion we set on three really different areas Like it wasn't sort of a two against one sort of thing. It was like it was actually probably more that dad was kind of in the mid dad was like traditional Evangelical orthodoxy that's kind of what he was right and I'm not that and you're not that and you and I are Unopposite and we were able to have good conversations about on those fishing trip We always love the fishing trips for the for the road trip more than the actual fishing and very rarely would we actually get Step in the water Matt and I got to the point in the last ones where we just let dad wander off We'd make sure that like he didn't float down the river But then he would he and I would just sit there and just chat while we watched dad because dad wanted to fish like dad Yeah, but Matt and I just wanted to take a you know Three-hour road trip and then turn around and take it back home tell stories and talk to dad So which is what this is gonna be today. Yeah, that's what we're gonna do So we're gonna do a little a little stroll down memory lane So we've said this before we were raised Incredibly poor below the poverty line. I was I was I was born in Houston, Texas But but my first four years of life was in Springfield But very early on and when you were a tiny baby, we moved to Memphis, Tennessee Yep for dad to go to seminary and My perception of you as a little kid Very tough very stubborn We're probably gonna grow up to not be very smart I've heard that Yeah, in your in your in your adult life I you are Very tough very stubborn less so than you were as a kid for sure And oddly enough you turned out really bright. I don't know what happened You were sort of like a I remember you as sort of like a crow magnum Child like you you were not you were just you were like What is the what was the little kid on the Flintstones? Yeah, they can bam-bam bam-bam you were bam-bam That was exactly who you were growing up. You were bam-bam. Yeah What is your perception of what your young years like what kind of person were mean in those early days? It's really hard to reflect on yourself. You know when when you're young like I actually think I I remember more about Feeling scared a lot which I think is sort of on the outside it must have manifested itself as toughness because I felt like I needed to be but You know, I think I think I'm probably a little more driven by the emotion of fear than Than I realized when I was young Yeah, that's interesting. What is your perception of me as a kid? You when you when we were young course, you know, this is later in your life earlier in mind So I'm a little kid in this case. I mean We had like this Incredible for the fact that we had no money and like I mean as an adult now I realized just how little money we had like we had no money Our childhood was really good. Like we went out and played baseball basically every day We rode bikes together. We did all kinds of stuff. I mean like you were a really great big brother with the exception of like two circumstances and Other than that, it was like really really really good But like was one of those circumstances when I broke your finger in half when we were wrestling And then you go get me a glass of milk and made you promise to not tell mom and dad Don't tell mom and dad. I just broke your finger and your finger was broken in a half and turned sideways Yeah, I was like also. I'm kind of thirsty. You'll give me some milk I can actually literally remember standing in the kitchen holding the the gallon of milk with my index finger pointed Straight up and just doing it with these extra fingers and going like why is he making me do this? Horrible horrible. I think I was as a my my perception of myself specifically as an older brother was that I was a little power hungry and manipulative and so that's accurate, but I mean like Simultaneously though, I mean it wasn't a long period of time that you wielded it that way sure So I mean the the other time that I actually don't even want to tell on the podcast that that I treated you poorly Even I have talked about it in counseling because of and it was a stupid thing It was a stupid thing where I embarrassed you publicly in a basketball gymnasium. I don't want to tell the details I want to make sure you know, I don't want to make sure people Truly inappropriate, but it was but it was it was a thing that I felt I harbored a lot of guilt about For for years and so But now I think you and I got along really really well in general, you know We fought like brothers fight and it was but it was like Boy fight and stuff most that was fun. Yeah, it was sports and football Like we get in fights because somebody would tackle somebody too hard in football like we literally basically our whole life We're bicycles Baseball basketball and football and not not team sports because we lived in towns where boys the You couldn't you couldn't go beyond that we couldn't be in the public It was just it was the 80s and there was crack and we lived in a rough town and mom and dad chose to protect us from that and You know and there was probably the right call although a few years later when we went to a public school for the first time It was an eye-opener. Yeah, you got to public school and you're like, oh, we were truly the very sheltered homeschool 80s kids Yeah, you know showing up to the first day of school with our lunch pail and our dark blue jeans with the super gold stitching Man, that was so much worse for you than it was for me You were old enough that those patterns had been, you know, yeah created into something like popularity for me in the second grade Nobody knew or cared yet. So I kind of just kind of I I Strolled right into the second grade and immediately Ruled the fight. I ruled out. I mean just do fine. I've led the thing and so you think a lot of that is because Like one you didn't have you didn't have those social You know, you didn't have self-esteem issues from having sort of poor social interactions because you were so young And then also, do you think some of it is we've talked about this on the podcast in the past that you you played with me and all My friends and we were older than you and absolutely beat the shit out of you And you were like man if I can if I can hang From you know being bullied by Matt and his friends and play sports with Matt and his friends You can dominate the second grade. I mean without a basketball with a bunch of fifth graders I never even considered and it never crossed my mind that those people were my peers I was like, oh, no, no, I'm several levels above this Which I realized horribly arrogant thing to say but all I had ever done is play with kids It were two three four years older than me. Yes And so, um, you know, if we were out on the playground playing a game of basketball I was like, what are these fools doing like, oh, right? This is miserable I'm playing with a bunch of candy gardeners. This is yeah, so it was just Yeah, it had a big effect. I'm watching it with my own children. I mean my I've got the same setup You know boy boy girl and similar distance and my middle son is just fearless and yes It's because terrifyingly so yeah terrifyingly fearless and he he is Dominant in pretty much anything he wants to do It's fascinating and and and your oldest son is very eloquent is a he's a good speaker. He's very smart Yep, he is very risk averse very risk averse Yeah, right and I would say that was me growing up like certainly When we were younger if somebody had said like who's the one that's gonna be the entrepreneur and the risky one It would have been you and who's the one that's gonna that's gonna be an engineer and work at an engineering firm But not own the engineering firm. It's gonna be me and like my identity as a kid I think was wrapped up in I was smart and I was known that I was smart and I was a pretty good athlete. I was a decent athlete, but I was a ginormous sissy Like I was very I was very weak and again I think if I look back, you know, certainly there's a part of me that would love to go back And you know if you knew then what you know now, but I also think that I wouldn't be I Wouldn't have got into powerlifting. I wouldn't have started doing strong man I wouldn't have ended up opening strong gym or done online coaching had barbed logic had I not Later in life looked back on those years with disdain and embarrassment for being a sissy. Yeah and decided Decided to be like I can't be weak anymore. I have to be strong Well, I mean that that's what that's what I did too. It just didn't look that way on the outside I mean the first weights that we got we got from my birthday right when I was 11 and You know, it was in response to our cousin Phil had got a weight set himself and we at Christmas Saw each other and Phil was jacked. We were like and hit puberty early. Yeah I mean, I remember going over so he lived we we lived two or three hours apart and I can very clear Phil was and is to this day and it's if you ever listen to this will be fine. Phil's a nerdy Guy now he's less nerdy today than he was then right like he is really like his social skills have Blossomed but he was a nerdy heat that guy was super into computer programming when he was like seven He was programming computers and playing Sega Genesis video games and piano and every instrument else Oh, yeah, and also as a musical savant And so when we played sports or wrestled we would often have our wrestling I don't remember this so we would we would wrestle and the way you win is you would you would wrestle until someone would pass out You would you would put them in a chokehold until they went limp. Yep. That's how it was As little boys and we weren't 15 doing this We were we were seven and nine doing this and of course, you know We just we just beat the hell out of Phil and then one year we came down as early summer I think it's what I think it was summer and we came and he had hit puberty and Gone to a garage sale and bought a set of weights and started lifting and like you do he had no idea what he's doing You know, I don't even think it was a barbell. I think it was dumbbells. He was doing curls and over, you know, whatever and He beat the shit out of us. Yeah, and we were like what just happened Yeah, and he's like got the weights now looking back Also, you two are still little boys and Phil hit puberty Because Phil was you were younger than me and two years older than you and then the next guy to hit puberty was you I was an early bloomer Third grade you were like look I got armpit hair and you're like in the fifth grade and you have no man I think armpit hair was in the fourth grade. I actually remember showing a kid like what is going on here? And he's like you got armpit hair and I was like what? Again not a talk that we ever really had with dad dad is not ever like hey I remember telling dad one time like dad. I got abs check it out and I was like see this I got a line that goes straight down. I got these abs. He was like son that embarrasses me Because your body I can remember the first time I beat dad at arm wrestling I was probably 15 or so at the table We was at the dinner table and I beat dad and arm wrestling and I can remember the look of dejection on his face And I can think I can remember the feeling of dejection on in my brain because you want like you always want your dad to be able to beat you up Yeah, and or be able to stand up for you and protect you You know and not literally beat you up, but could if you wanted to right? And so yeah I can remember the day that I was like a realization that I was tougher than my father and and I at 15 I Was still pretty weak like I hadn't gotten into weightlifting at all. That wasn't really my thing I didn't discover that until later in high school. And so Let me ask you this and then we'll move on to kind of the early lifting days more of the lifting days My identity I felt like in high school and I've often used the term. It was I was painfully average, right? I was smart and I was known for being smart. It's where the top top of the class I was a little bit lazy So my teachers were frustrated with me because I was always the guy that would do really well in the finals and do Really well on the standardized tests and like not have the greatest grades because I was just like not interested And and I was a I was a pretty good slash decent athlete And so I could hold my own in sports and I was pretty smart But like outside of that You know, I was just sort of forgettable and I wonder for you. You were always Very tough and very good at sports but like we mentioned you had a reputation at least among the family being condom in the early years and Something can you remember when the transition occurred where you felt did you one? Did you ever feel dumb and two? Did you feel that there was a transition and we're like holy shit? I'm actually smarter than everybody else now. I never felt dumb. I Did not care about school at all whenever the in the in kindergarten in first grade Second grade is when the blossoms started to occur We went to public school and I was like hmm all these other kids are here and I think I'm smarter than all of them And so whenever they took we took the standardized test I guess I did exceptionally well on that and they put me in the gifted program after that and Once once I realized what I was capable of then it that that sort of turned it around But I still didn't really think of myself as being I knew I was one of the smartest kids in class In the third grade But I was much more focused on the athletic side of things. I mean I I remember You know again just on the playground, but it was At Cotter they played basketball like they played school basketball in elementary school You wore your school Cotter Jersey and played basketball, right? Sure, and I played it in front of these kids that were we had like a An assembly and I played in front of the high school kids And I mean I stole the ball from every other kid on the on the court and just took it straight down and shot it And and made it every single time and they were like, oh my god future high school, you know best And now I'm thinking about it's like tiny little school in the middle bar. Yeah, I was fun But you were a giant fish in the tiniest pond exactly that gave me a head that was pretty pretty big and So I remember you played baseball your first year playing baseball you hit a home run Every single bad except for three there were like three at bats that you didn't hit a home run like literally Non-rentals exaggeration. They were like three at bats the whole season where you didn't hit a home run Like one was a double and maybe two singles. I don't even know if you ever got out the entire time I mean it was it was bizarre. So Yeah, that was that that makes sense though that as we transition into Public school that you were like, oh, you know, this is I'm I'm smart Yeah, I think our perception of you not being a smart Came from the fact that you were kind of like your middle son And you were like you just you would ram your head into things like not on purpose But you just like you would get you would go to the emergency room often like you would run So 60 miles an hour as fast you could around corners and run smack into telephone poles and bust your lip wide open And have to go get stitches and like that was just kind of you know So we discovered You you started lifting or we started lifting about the same time Of course you were you were several years younger than me and then you you stayed really more active with it in high school I really got into lifting my senior year of high school and really was I could tell I was good at it Even compared to to most the other guys was was good at it went to a Lineman challenge that they I didn't play football But they had me come do this lineman challenge It's kind of like the the NFL combine and you could you know There was like you had a squat for reps you had to bench press for reps and stuff like get a throw a shot And you had to do all these like you know el cone drills and stuff And I went in there and just tore shit up and I remember like all the other schools like who's this guy? You know they're like he doesn't play football. You don't play football I wanted to play football dad wouldn't let me play football. I begged and then dad let you play football and Then you quit I quit Man, you're like man. I'm glad I quit. Yeah, it's a great. I'm actually back now I'm like, oh man think about it. Yeah, same for me So we got out of I got out of high school and at the end of your high school years Yeah, I floundered around for a few years in college lifting. I would have said that I was bodybuilding I never was interested in the actual sport of bodybuilding that seemed ridiculous and then The infamous day that I found the Dave Tate article on what is now TMAG T nation that used to be called testosterone net and he wrote an article many years ago 20 years ago about how to bench-press 600 pounds and I discovered West Side Barbell printed out Hundreds of pages of articles from Dave Tate and Louis Simmons And then we all went to Destin, Florida on a family vacation And we read those articles on the beach and went to the Barnes and Noble in Destin in like 99 maybe 99 and And bought our first two powerlifting USA's Yep, one of which had had all the West Side crew on the cover and we were in and all of a sudden we that we entered into that Stage where it was powerlifting full bore for several years. That was crazy. It was crazy times I mean, I was about to get married when it when we really decided we were gonna start competing and I was a hundred and 70 pounds I think at our first powerlifting competition in Tulsa Yep, and I remember going into that competition and it was just I just felt silly I mean, I was like around these other guys and they were huge and I was not but I still at a hundred and seventy pounds that Competition I deadlifted 500 pounds and I was you know, which isn't bad for somebody hasn't really done it very much I think everything else was pretty terrible, but you know, my deadlift was decent and and Three months later after that competition, we competed at Eagle Gym in St. Louis Yep, and I competed at 220. Yeah from 170 to 220 and I took nothing Right, I'm not kidding. There was no I really just we ate so much food and it was it was terrible food It was McDonald's. I a lot of burger every day. That's right. That's right It was massive amounts of McDonald's. It was pizza with oil poured on it. It was canola oil Why we chose canola oil? What a terrible oil. So which I think is made from corn husks or something Yeah, canola oil we pour that in our protein shakes like just to get calories Because all we cared about was getting strong. Yeah, and so uh, yeah, and we gained a ton of weight and There were no there are no performance enhancing drugs Yet for me especially There was just it was just food it was just food and milk and and and we were you know You were 18 or 19 years old and I was 20 or 21 years old and we were like the perfect age and that's the other thing is like We had so much testosterone running through our veins Naturally because we were the perfect age and doing the right stuff to be able to have that that our bodies just grew and I Remember how how fun it was we those early years we would go train it at St. John's Fitness Center, right? It was a hospital it was a hospital gym Yeah, and we would add weight and add weight and add weight and I mean for years We could just we just added weight to the bar literally every workout for you know We talked about this and I would love to note I need to go back and see what I have my old training logs I think it'd be a really fun thing to like scan and publish at some point like on barbecue at my original training log I mean embarrassing, but but you could just see that and I kept all my PRs in the back You know and so I can still go back and see what my one rep max PR squad is my three rep my five rep my box squat And we did Westside in those early days, right? There was no it wasn't like novice linear progression stuff It was just I mean it was linear progression because we got heavier every single time right But we did a big variation and exercises in those early days and just got strong it got big I can remember I'll remember like it was yesterday the first time I stepped on the scale and it said 200 Yeah, when I crossed the 200 pound barrier I can remember the first time that I bench-press 300 pounds like it was yesterday the first time I bench-press 315 That same thing the first time I deadlifted 500 was in that st. John's fitness center that looked in 500 and then You remember those remember doing the the old SLP powerlifting great at st. John's fitness center and it was just a Bench press and deadlift to the meat very clearly and I had I had performed I had had a Car accident happened right in front of me the day before and I had performed rescue breasts and CPR on a girl who died on me while I was while I was performing CPR and And it was weird in the moment it was surreal and I was just you're just going and I had been trained in CPR At first aid it was actually had actually was coming home from renewing the license. That was what was also really strange And I went into that meat not thinking about powerlifting not thinking about lifting couldn't care less It was couldn't get it out of my mind trying to save this girl's life and her dying on me And for the first time ever our family and our parents who were not supportive in general of powerlifting Showed up to support us and cheer us on at this meet and I had one of the best meets of my life That now this was in the early days. I was benching in a bench shirt. I benched 525 in a bench shirt Old denim bench shirt and I and I deadlifted conventional raw It was my first 600 pound deadlift was there and I can remember you didn't have to wear a singlet and I was wearing Like basketball shorts and a t-shirt and I and I pulled 600 in basketball shorts and a t-shirt And so that was was a blast those days we trained out at my old house in Republic, Missouri in a little bedroom and and had started training with with Dave Gullage who was Far more Athletically talented than us and showed up and he's bigger and stronger than us the first great lesson for me on Always making sure that the people that you if you're doing something you want to improve on Making sure that you're you're doing that around surrounding yourself with people that are better than you like Dave when they walked in I Was afraid there were a lot of weights I was afraid of right and when Dave walked in and just Obliterated those for yes, you know ten reps or something that I was like. Oh, okay. We got We put a hundred pounds on every lift after Dave's right there from training with Dave No, that's there's no doubt it and he was a great training partner. He was always He was always there always on time didn't call in sick humble humble guy like never super That's right. That's right quiet was you know happy to help if you ask for help Was a couple years younger than me was probably he was about your age, right? Barely older than me. Yeah, just yeah, so between the two of us and to put things in perspective Well, I would have said we were decently strong at the time So so I in my world I think of us being equally as strong and in those days maybe one of us were a little stronger than the other doesn't matter You know, we were doing like maybe we do a two board press like a west side two board press Where you put two, you know two by four or two by six is on your chest and we bench We go up to you know, 315 335 and do it for a triple and then Dave would do it for 585 for a triple raw 565 for seriously It was we box what 500 and be like we are so strong 500 box what and then he'd box what 830 the same day The same workout. He just keep going up. He box what 830 pounds on a box kids 20 years old 19 years old 20 years old and you're just like, you know, he's 300 pounds and not fat With a soccer player soccer a soccer scholarship He was just fell in love with lifting and decided he wanted to lift rather than play soccer Quit the soccer team at the college and just kept lifting and the guy was just crazy strong super smart By the way, very successful chiropractor now in kansas city owns a great His little brother is the one that we've talked about on the podcast that dead lifted like talk about great genetics His little brother Conventional raw dead lifted 800 pounds this the summer after his senior year of high school He was 18 years old. He did an 800 pound conventional deadlift in a meat in a meat Uh, crazy. So those days were awesome. They were fun. They were crazy You know, we were not risk averse at the time We would we would put load tons of weight on our put tons of weight on our back and Eat ridiculous things and put shit in our bodies, but there was a blast And so I look back at that time and I mean it was it was a great Way when you could think of the alternatives in college of what you could have been doing I mean, you know, we could have just been going to these terrible Parties and just rat parties and getting hammered doing recreational drugs and all kinds of like it's terrible Instead we were working out like crazy and getting strong and Even though when the company became an opportunity for me, I I basically stopped almost cold turkey And I'd been doing some I've been doing several powerlifting meats and then my last meat was a was a strongman competition That I had not I didn't really done that much for but I still took Third in that one. Yeah, and so I mean Oklahoma's strongest man. Yeah, not bad Not bad for like it was it was uh, and I a lot of fun But I couldn't keep up. I knew I couldn't keep up with the training regimen if I was going to start a company So, um, you know, I had to I had to stop and then you you kept going I mean you kept going I think it created a natural transition for me because we had power lifted together We had just started doing strongman together But we're super green as far as strongman goes and then your company started to take off and you're like, okay I'm taking a Yeah, I'm gonna I'm just I can't train can't do this anymore And I went full bore on the strongman stuff and won my pro card the next year And an open strong gym a year and a half after that and it was kind of off to the races And of course, I'd never thought that would be a career I just thought it would be like the super intense habit Like passion that I that I you know like a hobby a hobby not a habit That I had but an intense one Um, and you know, it's uh, obviously it's it's worked out. So, um, and those were good days by the way Phil Ended up coming in and training with us for a while. Yeah, uh later in life It was funny and then we had caught up and then passed him Uh, and he and actually to this day Phil's got a really nice like rogue set up at his house And he still goes in and he he does all the basic stuff But he's one of those guys was like not not really interested in ever squatting or you know, I want to bench I never would have benched more than 225. I want to be always be able to do 225 for 10 Like that's kind of Phil right and squat and deadlift a little bit But he's got and he's got a great setup and he still does all the basic lifts He doesn't care about it being he's like as long as I maintain my strength for the rest of my life I'm fine. Uh, but yeah, I remember I let when I stopped powerlifting So at that slp meet that you talked about that was uh, st. Johns. I was 262 That was the heaviest that I ever got After that meet I and and we finished Um strong man, I think it competed strong man at 220 So I was kind of coming back down and then I ended up about 220 whenever I stopped powerlifting And I I I stayed there because I mean my habits were you know about eating and whatnot were sort of in that Still in that zone and then I kind of got tired of holding that weight and I decided that I was going to run enormous distances I was going to run marathon link distances and I went from 220 back down to 170 from a period of I think it was Thanksgiving just before Thanksgiving One particular year took Christmas of that year. I was I was down to 170 and I held 170 until wait a minute You couldn't have gone from two six to 30 to 170 in one month. It was 220 and and yeah, no, you're right. It wasn't it was uh Would have been Thanksgiving was the start and I guess it would have been February march Probably by the time I ran that first long race. See Reynolds exaggeration doesn't just stop with me. No, we both have it We both have it In one month. I lost 60 pounds and the furthest that I went I I did eat I mean I was in 18 mile runs. I remember I'd have jenny dropped me off in two cities away I was gonna say that I remember jenny would drive your wife would drive you out out to like that We have all these old trails and they've converted like the old railroad tracks and stuff to trails And she would drive you 18 20 miles from town Yeah And drop you off and you would just run home and you're like and how long did that take you're like, you know Like five hours. Yeah, that's right. Well, I mean there's one guaranteed way to make sure you don't quit Right. It's uh, that's right. Drive my ass out 18 miles and I gotta make it home. So No, that's good. That's good. That's a that's a fun stroll down memory lane We need to do this a little more often We've got little chunks of our life that'd be funny stories to tell that I think the listeners would enjoy and so Hey, get out there and enjoy your kiddos today you for your dad's and for the rest of you Man, spend some good time with your dad. Give him a hug. Tell him how much you love him We wish that we could do that and I know there are a lot of you that are listening out there that can't do that anymore And wish you could and so for those of you that still can Take the opportunity to tell your dad how much you love him None of none of those dads none of our dads were perfect. Some are better than others Most did the best they could and uh, and they deserve some love and affection today for that and so, uh Try to see the good in your dad today And if your dad spends some time loving on your kids as well And so you've been listening to a principles podcast with matt chris reynolds You're at barba logic and enjoy your father's day the rest of your father's day Again, if you don't have uh, if you don't have training, uh, or you don't have a coach and you need one or your dad needs one We've got a great sale running right now If you check that out, uh, our father's day sells 50 off your first month of online coaching Plus you get a $50 gift card So we say to the retailer of your choice, but our thought was you know, if you get a $50 gift card for dad, uh at Like home depot or lows or something like that. So, uh, go to barba logic dot com and you can check out online coaching and and uh, Check that out. So Fun show today. I'm glad we got to talk about that a little stroll down memory lane. Dude, happy father's day to you Hope you enjoy it with your kiddos you too, man Are awesome. I will talk to you uh next week and the rest of you we will see you tomorrow morning. See ya