 Guys, if you want to mute all your microphones for a moment, if you haven't. Right, I can confirm that we're live, but due to the team's like, I'd give it maybe 20 seconds before you'd properly start, but yeah, I've done it before my side, so cheers. Cheers, Adam. Adam, thank you. Good morning, members, officers and any members of the public who are viewing the live stream of this meeting, welcome to the meeting of the Grants Advisory Committee today, 27th November at just after 10. My name is Councillor Joseph Hales and I am the chair of the Grants Advisory Committee. For the information of members of the public, the role of our committee is to consider and make recommendations to the lead cabinet member for finance, that's Councillor John Williams, and you'll see him on the screen, on the applications made under the council's grant schemes. Councillor Williams then makes his decision, taking into account our recommendations. Members, please can you remember to mute your microphones unless you are called upon to speak, you will need to then unmute your microphones in order to speak. So agenda item number one, this is apologies, Aaron, may I ask if there's been any apologies, please, and could you do the roll call? Of course, Chair, thank you, good morning. We have received apologies from councillors Claire, Delta Field and Peter McDonald for the meeting today. Members, well, for Peter McDonald we have Councillor Martin Khan who is substituting in his place today. Members, I'll read out your name, please if you could confirm that your present remembering to unmute your microphones before you speak. Councillor Dawnton please. Yes, I'm here, thank you. Councillor Wellington. Yes, I'm here. And Councillor Khan, please. We can't hear you, Martin. Well, maybe we might have lost Councillor Khan. He may be able to join us shortly, but we are still court anyway. We also obviously have yourself as the Chair of the Committee, Councillor Hales, and we also have various members of the Climate and Environment Committee with us today to lend their expertise on the zero carbon applications. Would you like me to do a roll call of those climate members that are present, Chair? Yes, please, we're very grateful. Of course, Councillor Chamberlain please. President, sorry. Councillor Harvey please. Yes, President. I don't think any other members of the Climate Committee are present today. Apologies if I have missed you out, but we also have Councillor Cathcart present today as the local member for Battingbourne and Councillor Bill Handley as the lead member for Environment. And if I may, Chair, just pass on Councillor Haling's extreme regret that she can't be here today. Obviously, it's very important for her, but she got a last-minute call to a meeting with her own work, if you like, so unfortunately, she can't be here. But she has passed on some of her comments to me, which I can relay during course of the meeting. Thank you very much, Councillor Harvey. Okay, with now the declarations of interest, please agenda item number two, Councillor Ellington. There is an application from Swavesy Community Orchard, which my grandson has put in a quote to do the work, but he has been told that he is unlikely to get it because his quote was too high. Okay, so I see it as a non-pecuniary interest. Okay, sorry to declare. Aaron, so just with Councillor Ellington's declaration there, we will leave that to you to give us the advice at that point, if that's okay, yeah. Councillor Daunton. Yes, sorry, Chair. Do we need to declare where we are the ward councillors for some of the applications coming up? Aaron, I don't think so, not as though. It's only if you're involved in it. That's correct, Chair. Yeah. If you're fiscally involved in it, or part of a group that makes that decision, then yes. Okay, no, no, okay, fine. Could I just declare, I know I'm not actually voting, but I have become quite involved in the Great Abington scheme that came from last year's contest, so I think I will kind of step out of the discussion on that. Okay, thank you, Chair. Right, minutes of the last meeting. Are we happy to approve the minutes of the last meeting, please, Croms Committee. I'm looking at the heads, they're all nodding. Yeah. That's fine. Aaron, could you take that as a general consensus that they're okay? Thank you very much. Right, members and members of the public, I'm going to have to read out a fairly lengthy statement here. If you'll just bear with me, please. I'm going to have to read it verbatim. As the next item of business contains confidential information, I'm going to read out the following statement. The law allows councils to consider a limited range of issues in the private section without members of the press and public being present. Typically, such issues relate to personal details, financial and business affairs, legal privilege and so on. In every case, the public interest is excluding the press and public from the meeting room must outweigh the public interest in having the information disclosed to them. The following statement will be proposed, seconded and voted upon. I propose that the press and public be excluded from the meeting during the consideration of the following item numbers. Number 11 and 12, in accordance with section 100 brackets A, brackets 4 of the Local Government Act 1972, on the grounds that, if present, there would be a disclosure to them of exempt information as defined in paragraph 3 of part 1 of Schedule 12a of the Act as amended. Paragraph 3 relates to information relating to the financial or business affairs of any particular person, including the authority holding that information. If exempt confidential information has been provided as part of the agenda, the press and public will not be able to view it. There will be an explanation on the website, however, as to why the information was exempt. Members, do you agree with the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighs the public interest in the disclosure of this information? And if so, I would like to move that as a proposal. May I have a seconder and then a show of hands, please, from the Grumps Committee. Could you put Sue as second in, please, Aaron? And you're okay with that. Thank you very much. I'll take that as affirmative, Aaron. Thank you. In that case, Liam, would you kindly end the live feed, please? Yeah, sure. This is ended for good today, yeah. Yes, thank you. Yeah, cheers.