 Yes, ma'am. All right. Welcome to the Essex Junction trustee's meeting on February 27, 2018. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. So our last year's leader is not with us this evening, so I'll be writing the meeting. Pat, do you have any agenda additions or changes? None. What? 27. 27. You've had enough. Okay. Excellent. So we'll move on. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to make comments on items that are not on the agenda this evening? Seeing none. Let's welcome Julie Noor Johnson, who's going to talk to us about the 2018 return of the farmers market. This is great news. Welcome, Julie. Thank you. Yes. So I am back to inform you all that the five quarters farmers market has a new board and fresh new energy. Some young people on the board with some creative ideas. And we've made some strategic changes to the market and we are moving it from it's Friday night to Wednesday night. And we're changing the location. So first thing is that by changing the date, we're moving the plan is to move it away from being just sort of a data market. We think that that will help sort of sales in general to be more of our retail sort of setting. And then the other is we're changing the location from Lincoln Place, the alley. To the empty lot behind road rescue. And that is, that's putting a sort of smack in the middle of the village. And which is, you know, it's a double edged sword. But I think the reason we're happy and excited about it is that it's smack, you know, it's a high visibility location, which would be good for sales. People will, you know, drive through the village and be like, oh, there's this thing going on. We're going to go over and check it out. And that the space has, you know, we have a little bit of ownership in this space so we don't have to sort of vacate like we had when we were on a street, you know. There's, and we don't have to deal with like closing the street every morning and like opening it up and kick people out of the parking lot, hopefully. So there's, we feel like we have a lot more flexibility in how we conduct the market within this space. So that's, I mean, that's the big news. And we're sort of playing around with referring to the market as the five corners farmer's market and pop up marketplace because we want to sort of cultivate an eclectic mix of vendors because really what we're trying to do is to demonstrate to the people who live here and to businesses that, you know, that downtown S-Extension can be a place to come for retail. So part of like, you know, we look at what the plans are with all of the new development happening in the village and the piece that hasn't happened yet that really needs to happen is retail. And so we're really pushing this as a way to sort of test market this for the village. So that's our story. And I was coming to you guys to see if I could get a little bit of help with the site. So we have a permit to use the site from Gabe Handy. And really from a safety point of view, I was wondering if the village might be able to just move the gravel that's already there to level the parking lot. There's like potholes that have happened or there's a little bit of a slope that I think has occurred as a result of plowing maybe through the winter. So I was just looking to see if there might be a way to just level that off. And I know it's, you know, that's the ownership of that might be an issue. I just, I acknowledge that, but I'm just looking to see if you guys, you're my first stop to see if we couldn't sort of level that out. It's really, I think, a safety issue more than anything. And then there's the, just like I haven't talked to Public Works, I really wanted to come and talk to you guys first, but we'd like to relocate a couple of the signs that are between the grassy area and the gravel parking area because we want to put the music tent in the grassy area with some of the picnic tables in the grassy area. And then right now there's a handicapped parking sign that would really be like in your face sort of between those two. And it seems like it wouldn't be that big of a deal to move the handicapped parking sign to another area of the parking lot. It's sort of right smack in the middle of, I suspect there's not like a specific reason it's there. So, and then there are parking bollards that are also right there. It would be nice to relocate those to another area of the parking lot so they don't become a trip hazard for people walking through. So those are, you know, that's, I mean, those are the primary requests that we have. And I wanted to bring that to you first. That's great news. Good. I think it's coming back. We're really happy to hear that. Just these questions? One, two, I just want to make sure, one's kind of to all of us, that the contract that we've always had has been between the farmers market and the village. And so I think that contract would also be who of us to do something with the gravel because it would, the insurance would come back to us, I think, if someone would hurt themselves. So that's something to look at for us to look at. And then the second thing is, are there any ideas to use the gazebo that's there in any of it? Or is it something that you want to have moved because it's in the way? No, the gazebo's not in the way. I mean, no mad coffee will still stay there. Oh, they're coming back. Yes. So, I mean, we could use the gazebo in another way if it wasn't where it was, but given where it is, it's not particularly useful to us for the market. So it was built to be moved. It can be taken apart and be moved. So that's why I say, if you can find a way to use it, I would suggest to use it. I would love to use it. We can find a way to do that. Yeah, and public works should know how to... Pretty sure they put it together. Yes, they do. So they would know how to take it apart. Okay. So, Julie, one question I have. Having it in that prominent place is awesome, but I'm a little concerned about pedestrian access. I know that there's parking further back on main and a little bit on maple that floats in the park and walk down, but there's also going to be an awful lot of crossing on five corners. Are there any ideas or suggestions or requests for how to make that safer on a temporary basis? Yeah, that's actually a really good point. So we... I do have... I've been looking into permission for use of the parking lot directly across maple, just for some auxiliary parking. Those sewing places? Yes. Okay. If that comes through, we would have the potential for more traffic sort of crossing over. I mean, I... You know, the first thought that comes to mind is, you know, there's a big barrel that's usually a little further down maple that's usually out during the school year that says, like, you know, you can't pass. You have to have something like that right near the entrance to the driveway entrance to that lot could be helpful. That might be one way to sort of control traffic or just mitigate. You know, and there is one other thing that I don't know if you can do it, but I'm a little worried about... So if the market opens, and we're gonna have the market start at 4 p.m. on Wednesdays, it'll be 4 to 7.30 until the fall, and then it will be 3.30 until 6.30. So when school's back in session, we'll have it sort of be a little more convenient to pedestrian school traffic. But so if the market opens at 4, we're gonna have vendors pulling into that lot at 3, which is a heavy time of traffic. So it would be really great if there was, like, striping right outside the... You know, right where the... Right where people would turn into the lot if onto... I'm not articulating this very well, but if there was some light to sort of create some sort of striping so that the traffic that pulls up to that light didn't block it, because otherwise it's gonna back it up through five corners. Yes. Since I'm not terribly committed, what I maybe suggest is we have a sit-down with a site plan map with myself, you know, others, maybe PD and Public Works and work out a logistics plan so that we, with the board's blessing, we will work things out as best we can to get safety, logistics, signage moved, and so that we're all working off the same plan. And I would be curious to know if... because some of the improvements and requests that you're asking for would be before the market happens, one-time efforts. Others would be every time the market happens, so it would be good to know what the difference is between the two. I'm curious, are you taking the shed where you store everything and you're gonna put it over there? In the sign. In the sign. What's gonna happen to... Is that the barbecue place next to Nomad? Are they coming back? No, they opened their restaurant. Oh, that's Bergus. They know that I should say. They have not requested a permit to come back, so I now have the permit to be in that space. Okay. And how many... I have a bunch of questions. Are there gonna be other food trucks? Because sometimes there were food trucks at the other market. We are not planning on food trucks unless they are small. We are anticipating a slightly smaller market. We have probably more than 20 vendors instead of 28. Okay. We are hoping to accommodate all of the vendors' vehicles on the site with their tents. It's just easier for everyone. It opens up parking for others. It opens up parking for customers. And if we're re-grading the parking lot and you want us to move the parking dollars, but that's still gonna be a lot during the week. I'm assuming. You want us to remove... What do you mean by it's a lot? It's still going to be a parking lot. Oh, yes. A lot. So it's still gonna have the use of being a parking lot during the week. So I'm not so... Do we want to remove those parking... I was saying those boundaries. Things that delineate each parking space. Oh, you mean that it looks like curving almost. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. They use them here in the back lot. Right. So you're saying we should be removing them every week? No, no, no. I'm just saying, can we just re-arrange it so that they're not right where people are gonna be walking? Like we can just change the orientation of the parking lot. I mean, it can be... Yes. It's a small thing. And that's all. And not looking to eliminate parking spaces. We're not there. It just seems to me that that would be something like Evan brought up. The whole thing is when the manager and the public, Rick, whoever, all get together and meet, these things can all be handled. But it does sound like it's not that much of an issue. Well... I mean, with the right equipment, those can be looked at. Let's recognize that we put the pergola there to block traffic and cars cutting through. So if we're gonna consider moving that, that's a real safety hazard that the property owner was worried about. So now we're gonna be inviting people there. It becomes a greater issue. So I kinda second my colleague's recommendation that this discussion sort of... I'm gonna use a fancy term, holistic. I would like a holistic view of the village departments, the petitioner, the market. And while she and they may not even have everything they want, at least we will all be on the same page. And we will move things once, maybe twice if they find out it didn't work. And then we're all on the same page as to what's gonna happen that afternoon, what happens when it's done. And we know where the... We have no idea where people are walking from, but maybe even working with the police who's available that time. And I know that there's an officer there in the mornings. Maybe on Wednesdays we schedule someone to be at or near the intersection to help with pedestrians crossing. I'll have plenty of questions, but when's the first week? May 30th. That doesn't sound right. The last Wednesday in May. So we have a little bit of time. Yes. So Evan and Julie, when you have that meeting, I'm hoping you'll report back to us with what you decided to do. And I think what we'd like to do then is once we sit down with everybody, we will have a comeback and show everybody the plan and probably have some reasons as to why the plan became the plan that you're seeing. That's great. So that when everybody wants to design a setup, I find that once Public Works and PD, maybe even Fire get to it, they're gonna be like, wow. That's it. The pergola is there because of this. We prefer you not move it. You can turn it around, but you don't want to move it. And here's the reasons. And so we'll come back to you and say, this is the plan that we came up with, and these are the reasons why it is the way it is. That's great. You okay with that? You get a card. And thank you for playing. You know what I mean? You know what she's won. And I'll ask that you just give me a shout out. You need some times that we and a team can meet. I think one of the other things that might help with the pedestrian safety side of things and getting to the market would just be the continued presence of those flashing lights at crosswalks. I just saw a new one of the street here. Oh, I used it the other night. I'm so excited. They do seem to pay attention a lot better than just somebody saying, hey, I want to cross. Please stop cars. So if we could get one of those over here, that could be very beneficial. And to that point, I was going in a cheaper version, but I like yours better. Something I've tried to advocate before. Other communities have done it. I think Middlebury might be one of them where they buy bright, big, laid out flags and they put buckets on either side. And when you want to cross, you hold up a flag. And it just, it's a very low cost way of just something else that people, you know, and it would be fun for kids, you know, and I think it would be a good learning for everyone. It's just a low cost way, but I like the idea of flashing lights better. I think it would be fun to walk across laid flags. That's right. Don't hit me. Very fast. All sorts of things. But be very fast. Thank you, Julie. You're welcome. And I just wanted to add that we are talking on the board about ways to create a sense of safety within the market itself, given its location. So we'll be looking at some sort of landscaping or heart-scaping that maybe will get volunteers to help us with that. Julie, thank you very much. This is really good news. Good. How many people are on your board now? I don't know why I can't count them all, but I can't remember. That's great. Thank you for all the work you're doing to take care of this. Great. Thank you. Darby, you have no old business, so I move right on to new business. And Darby's going to talk about a passive grant application. Great. So today we have a passive equipment grant application. This is offered every year to help offset the costs to communities of purchasing certain safety equipment. Public works and recreation are both interested in getting some funding with this grant. Public works is interested in getting some traffic cones and signage. And recreation would like some flangable cabinets. And passive will take care of 50% of, should we receive this grant, passive will take care of 50% of the cost of these items. It seems pretty straightforward to me. Does anybody have any questions? All in favor, we authorize staff to submit the 2018 passive equipment grant application and authorize a $1,528.12 cash match. All in favor. Aye. Aye. Thank you. Go for it, Darby. Thanks, Darby. All right. Next item, a request for tax stabilization for 11 Park Street and a letter of commitment. Lauren, would you walk us through this, please? Sure. Dave Handley says a letter asking for tax stabilization for where he's going to put this union housing, nine to 11 Park Street. And as is our, according to our policy, when someone replies, we prepare a letter of commitment. The applicant is required to make a 10% improvement in the property. The property is valued at $869,800. So he would have to make $86,980, which I think is, let me disappoint you, so we can drop in the bucket. So we're bringing this before you to see if you would like to grant tax stabilization for this property. Lauren. Does that remind me, does the stabilization start, it doesn't start until he does the improvement? Yes. Do the improvements, he has to provide the evidence and then, and then he needs to apply before December 30th, so that we can give him stabilization for the next year. Okay, thank you. As after the project has already been completed, so once the certificate of occupancy has been filed, it's not a development that's just sitting around waiting to be occupied. Right. So, Lauren. I don't know that. I don't know how much it's going to be. Sorry. Sorry. Are you, okay. I just have a couple of questions, just so we can talk about it so folks have an understanding who we're watching or going to read in the minutes. So, it looks, it doesn't look like the stabilization starts, so it won't start until FY20 and it'll go for four years. Right, as long as he does the work and gets the evidence into us and applies for the contract before the end of December. Okay. And it'll start in FY20. And then it goes for four years. It goes for four years. 20% 40, 60, 80. I don't think it's 30, 50. Okay. So, it's a staggered amount. Right. Do you know how much property taxes come in on that parcel now? No. Okay. But it's safe to say that it's not a lot because it's not an occupied piece of property. Right. And then when this building gets built, it will have a significantly higher property tax bill because it will have residences in it and such. So, even with the stabilization, the village will still be earning a great deal of property tax revenue on this parcel once the new building goes away. I don't know what the value of the new building is going to be. Right. But it's presumably going to be much greater than it is right now. Right. So, even at 30%, we'll probably at least get as much as we're getting now and then. Plus a little, probably. Plus a little. And then the cost over four years will be about, well, I know the four Pearl Street stabilization was about $3.02 per household, so, per year. So, after four years that goes away, they're paying full freight and the village is receiving all of that property tax revenue. Right. If you'd like me to do a quick calculation, I can tell you how much it's paying right now. Okay. I'll be nice and open. I'll be good. Right about. Come on. Gosh. Everybody be quiet before it's doing that. 2609, be his tax bill on that. Because we were about 30 cents. 2609. 2609. $2,609 is what we're getting right now. That's right. Okay. If, while you have a calculator out, the approximate value of a four Pearl is about four something million. Five, five, four, five. I promise Lauren these questions wouldn't be hard. Bring them to me in a minute so I can look it up. So, it's about five million from what I understand about the property that Gabe is talking about is going to be the similar size. I would think. So, approximately the same value. Right. Guestimating what that would then mean for taxes, even with the stabilization, it's absolutely going to come in at more than what the bill is receiving without the stabilization. Right. So, it's a win-win. It's not a loss. Exactly. It's not a loss. It's not a loss. Great list is going up significantly. Eventually. That's always a good thing. Exactly. And just, what is he going to spend his $86,980 on? Is there a requirement? Is it on landscaping? Is it, is there something required? I think it's on the building. Just on the building itself, which he's going to invest like substantially more in to do. Okay. Anybody else have any questions about this? So, we have a, we have a document that we need to sign a letter of commitment from the trustees, saying that if you do all these things, we will raise tax stabilization. So, Pat, do we need to move to approve this request? Yes, we do. Okay. Would anybody like to make a motion that we approve the tax stabilization request for 11 Park Street? No second. All in favor? Aye. Okay. So, trustees, stick around after we've got quite a few documents to sign, including this one. Thank you all. And the next item, appointing a new manager as authorized agent, I feel very rude that we didn't introduce Evan as our new unified manager. Evan T. is joining us for the first time tonight. Thank you for being here and welcome to Essex Junction. We're really happy to have you. The crowd roars. Lauren, you want to take us through this? Yes, we would, since Pat will be leaving, we would like to have the trustees appoint Evan teach as the authorized agent for the village of Essex Junction for signing of legal documents relative to the operation of the village. Say no. I need you. Well, I'll go ahead, unless trustees have a question or a comment, I'll go ahead and move that we appoint Evan T. teach as the authorized agent for the village of Essex Junction to sign legal and other documents relative to the operation of the village. Second. All those in favor? Aye. All right. Now you're stuck. No. Thank you. Lauren, approve annual financial plans for town highways. Yes, we have to produce this annual financial plan and send it to the state in order to receive our highway aid funds. We've got about 100,000 a year to help with that highway costs. And so I have prepared this plan and I would like you to approve it. So did I read somewhere that it requires us to spend a minimum of $300 per mile? It's a ridiculously low number. Yes. That's it. 300 miles. 300 dollars per mile. Right. Yeah, that amount's not big for us, but I'm sure some places in Vermont, they're fretting over that number. Yep. Okay. Trustees, any questions? Can I hear a motion to approve the annual financial plan for town highways? I'll move that the trustees authorize staff to submit the, oh no, I'm sorry. That's not the... You're going to make it up. Yeah, but I'll move that the trustees approve the annual financial plan for town highways as exemption. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. The similar vain certification of compliance for town road and bridge standards and network inventory. Is that the same? Anything else Lauren? It's a separate item here. It's a separate item. Yeah, separate item. Okay. Okay. So, should that just... It's all part of the same? Or do we need a separate motion? Do you need a separate motion? Separate motion. Okay. All right. I'll move that the trustees approve the certification of compliance for town roads and bridge standards and network inventory within SS Junction. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. All right. And the last new business item, approve and sign the annual meeting warning. It says on here George though. I'm not sure if he had anything in particular to say about it. Other than, we have five articles acting on the vote, the report of the auditor approving the general fund budget of $3,423,606. The budget is 4 million. Excuse me. I should have just read the whole thing right now. Approve the general fund budget in the amount of $4,954,687 for fiscal year July 1, 2018 to June 30, 2019, $3,423,606 of which is to be levied in taxes against the village grant list. And article three to approve holding the next annual meeting in 2019 on Wednesday, April 3, to transact any other business and then the ballot questions to be voted on on April... What's the date we're voting on? 9th. April 9th. Maybe it's 10. Oh, excuse me. 10, 4th attempt. It's right at the top of the page. Yeah. Yeah. 10th. I have a question I'm probably way late to show on this one. But I'm thinking maybe to go under article four. So, this year in the state house, Dylan and I had a resolution passed to make June 3, I think it is neighbor's day in the state. Oh, nice. Something we started last year. I don't know if it would be appropriate during article four to stand up and announce that and read it. Is that something we could do at the legislature? I think that's perfect. Absolutely. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah. Great. I'm just asking for a vote. No, we're just announcing it. You know, I'd like to give credit to Steph if she comes, which I'm sure she will, and just read it. So, that would be great if we could do that. Yeah, we've used it in the past to talk about this. Yeah, we just sort of used that for information gathering and announcements. Yeah, absolutely. Great. That's awesome. Glad you guys did that. Yes, I am too. And who's running, who's up for election this time? Ewan and I. Andrew and I. Andrew and Ewan. That's right. Okay. Make sure everybody out there on TV land knows. And I'm assuming annual meeting preparations are underway. We're going to reach out care. I think Patty is on it. Awesome. Great. All right. So, we'll have to sign that warning. Do we have to? Yes. So, I'll send a motion to approve the warning for the annual meeting. Approve and sign. Approve and sign. Thank you. So moved. Second? Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. All right. Moving on to manager's report. Which one? Right. What are we doing here? As you said, let's go with the first one. Oops. Well, as usual, you know, we have our trustee meeting schedule. But since this is my last meeting, I'd like to seize the opportunity to say that I thoroughly enjoyed working for and with all of you. And I would like to thank all of you for joining us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I totally respect the job that you do and the positions that you hold and the fact that you so love the community and all that you say and do. It's easy to respect people who respect everybody else. And I just want to say thank you for the opportunity to be here and that I wish I was smart enough to have figured out what George and Linda had figured out much long ago to start this process of trying to have one manager serve the two communities. I think that's it's a terrific idea and I think it's going to continue to be one. And I know for well that Evan is fully capable and hard charging and ready to take up the mantle and forward. He's highly qualified and just well-received already by everybody. So thank you for hiring Evan. Thank you, Pat. Thanks. Evan, do you have anything to share? First, I'd like to thank all of you for hiring me. And excited to be here and the opportunity to serve. But I'm going to veer off to my predecessor or soon to be predecessor, Pat Scheidel. I'm going to just say in the couple of days that I've been here and meeting the people in the two organizations, the village and the town and the staffs of both and the respect that they have for him. You know, I just can't say enough about what he's achieved with all of you and in his organization over in the town. And he has made me feel welcome. We've worked well together for the last couple of days. We've actually been in the office together and over the phone and this man deserves as much credit as anybody could get for the organizations that he's worked for and for what he's done for the area. So if you don't mind. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. I'm going to pay dearly for that. And then I also want to echo the respect that you know, village managers have and myself included with the dedication that you all put in, night in, night out, you know, weekends, the phone calls, the meetings, the special events where at the last minute they need you to move a block or something like that. You know, come up with a decision on the fly, but and the work that you're doing with the town to make the entire area more unified and just a better place for everyone. So I'm excited. I'm looking forward to it. Pat's going to be my tutor. Lauren, right there at my side and the rest of the staff like Darby and I'm going to start missing you. So I'll stop. Thank you. Thank you. Did you have anything you wanted to go over? Pat, we have our schedule. No, I think, I think everybody is acutely aware of the next joint meeting and its topics and our regularly scheduled meetings, the next regularly scheduled one being March 13th. I trust that you'll all be at town meeting. The March 24th joint meeting is the one I was just mentioning where I think it's going to be at the, oh yes, it says right here the Essex High School cafeteria. So, March 14th? No, 24th. Oh, that means, yes, 24th. So when we had the most trouble with staying on on point when we were talking about the last time and of course our village meeting which is April 4th so, it's all good. I'm sure you're all going to be available to meet for the remainder of the meetings and collect the huge amount of money that you do for the work that you do. Sure. Thanks, Pat. Sure, thank you. So trustee comments and concerns. So we have a bunch of documents to sign and a couple other things but I just want to add for the record that Pat, I think hiring you was the smartest decision that has ever made. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you for everything you've done for us. It's been a joy. Absolutely. We've been invited to the Essex Junction Fire Department 2018 Annual Banquet and 125th anniversary celebration on April 28th at the Sunset Ballroom. I don't know where that is. That's nice place. That's in No, I don't know where that is. It's nice. It's right above the old steakhouse. Yep. Any comments and concerns from trustees? I just have one. I was going through the minutes that we get emailed to us from the various organizations or the various committees. There was a comment that I had noticed within the bike walk committee about plans to that the bill just planning to shut down Main Street for the block party this year. Main Street? Main Street. When my recollection was we had talked about when we had last spoken about the possibility of even doing that. It was purely a conceptual thing that would not even be brought back up until we had the Crescent Connector so we could talk about recruiting traffic. Right. So unless I missed something in the consent agenda, which is entirely possible, I don't recall that changing. So I guess that's a question we'll have to ask Darby because she's usually the person who's at this meeting, right? Mm-hmm. Or no bike walk. No. Bike walking might be Darby? Yeah. Yeah. Darby is bike walk. Yeah, she's on the meeting. She's on the but yeah, that's the rec department now. Yeah. Oh, okay. So we just need to get a clarification. What street did you mean and if you meant Main Street, we need to talk about that. Yeah. It's in a minute as to who it came from. Okay. So if it can be followed up with someone on the staff? Sure. Cool. Lori or Dan, do you have anything? Um, I will just add one state thing because I know you commented on this. So, the open meeting bill that was in that was going to change the definition of a meeting to be any two of us that talked outside of this and a couple other things. So that, a lot of it has been stripped. It's on the floor tomorrow. I read through it. If it, from what I can gather, it's just changed just a couple minor things. So they're not changing the definition. The calendar day, the business day. Still business day. Yeah. Why is that so hard? Why is that? Yeah. I don't get it. So my understanding was there was a lot of pushback from press and committee. Um, those of us that are also part of the Board of Trustees tried to push back as well and, you know, say it's just really important, but it just didn't, it didn't pass. So, but anything could happen because it's on the floor tomorrow. So I don't lose I just wanted to let you know. It's pretty watered down from what was proposed. Okay. Thanks for checking out them. Does it still allow for the three of us to be at a social function? Yes. And, okay, as long as we just don't make a vote. Right. As long as it's, yeah. And if anything changes after it gets voted on on the floor, I will let everyone know. All right. Um, and the only other thing in the reading file was the letter of resignation from our attorney, so we have a card to sign for Dave. Um, I'm curious about the process of what we need to do now to get a new attorney. Well, we, I should say, we actually say heaven is immersed in this first project of looking over the, uh, requests for qualifications for a village attorney. And he's, he'll be working with the staff and have that ready to come to you probably by 13th of March. Uh, but in the interim you should not worry if there's any legal issues Dave Barrett has sent me in the names of two attorneys that we can call upon for an immediate help for the village. And I'm sure that we could, um, you know, call McPhee and Lennie and Sheen for any kind of backup that those two aren't available, as long as there's no direct conflict between the village and the town. That's unlikely to happen and it's unlikely we will need them, but please rest assured that, um, we are, we are covered. I wish I could tell you the names of them, but I can't. Yeah. Yeah, uh, we have a couple of RFP, um, documents to choose from to get some language. Uh, staff is looking over, uh, some drafting language of an RFP. Want to talk to, uh, the village president a little bit and then make a presentation to the board as to maybe creating uh, have some board representation, put out the RFP, get some responses and have a small committee do a recommendation and bring some finalists, something like that to the board for an interview. Excellent. That's, that's great. I just want to go back to what I said. It's still five calendar days, which is what it's always been. And just couldn't get it changed to business. Exactly. I think we switched that. I don't know if you don't comply. Yeah, I don't know. It's not in what I'm reading right there, but it's pretty. I don't know if anybody's complaining. Yeah, who's, who's the policing agent? I think if the public the public the agency but did they say anything about video record? So in other words, does that meet the five day? Uh, I can find out tomorrow. It's a good question. Yeah. The agenda would meet it. So my understanding, actually that's so my understanding and it's not right here. I would have to go back and find the full bill, but my understanding is it's very basic what needs to be done. So that was the the argument I had with someone was there. I guess it's who was there and the agenda. But you don't really even and my comment back was but that that is not what the public wants. You know, the public wants much more information. And so that is why I believe they kept it at the five calendar days because by law there's not that much that is needed. And maybe that's true. How does being brand new how does that the clock start? So somebody comes in with a request. Let's say Friday three o'clock. Is that the time it starts? So this is not this is not this specifically is to the minutes from public meetings. It's being made available. So after we're done here, it's not for I think you're talking about Free Amendment Information Act. I don't know. This is minutes. Yes. Okay. So, but if you have if you happen to have a meeting on a Thursday night, let's say, and then you have Friday is the first day and you have a long weekend. Well, they did add holiday in. So we got one day if there was a holiday. So you get the added that is the language excluding any day as a holiday. Well, so maybe next year you could change the word business. Business, but it was a problem that didn't exist that they thought they had to solve. But yeah, the way I get around it because the five days is just not workable. Right. You do the agenda. You mark your motion maker, seconder. It's all in cryptic notes and that gets put into the record as the first draft and then the laws met and then you follow up until seven minutes. Yeah. Do what you got to do. Which is not informative. It's not transparent. It's does the opposite of what they were trying to do. Yeah. Exactly. Nobody asked me. Well, I tried to advocate. I didn't get very far. I didn't do a good job. Yeah. Exactly what you do in a while. Yeah. So if there's not anything else on the reading file and move on to the consent agenda, I actually have a comment about the consent agenda. So if someone wants to move it. I'll move it for the consent agenda. Second. Second. So Mary Ann, the minutes for the February 13th meeting. It has me showing up and voting sooner than I showed up. Okay. So. I didn't really know when you came in. That's okay. So let me just get to the point where I think I had you arriving at the meeting. Right. So Yeah. So when you get to item number eight joint meeting with the select board. Yeah. It says weren't you there for the joint meeting? I was there but I missed the first vote. So item eight I was not present for. And then after we were discussing the memorandum of understanding for the contract for the new manager. I did make a motion on that. Okay. So item eight. So anything prior right. Anything prior to item eight B I was not present. So I just want to make sure that the the core of the voting is accurate because I was reading through it and I think you included me in a couple of things. Anyway. Could you make four? Oh yeah. You made four. Okay. So you came at B that was all I wanted to say. I just wanted to be important. Yeah. All right. So we have a motion and a second on the consent agenda. All in favor. Aye. Aye. All right. Consent agenda is approved. I'm going to adjourn. Second. All in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. All right. Hey. Good job. 17. Good job. Good job. All right. There's a lot of stuff I'm sorry. All right.