 We've got it so As I understand it Like from two weeks ago because we weren't on the air last week We didn't want to fuel because there was a problem with a valve on the Mobile's launch tower. Is it the ground the billicle cover plate tell me it's not the ground the billicle cover plate John billicle carrier No, no, no, so they thought it was with GSE, but it turns out it was with the upper stage the Hey, I'm getting echo back from someone Is that you Ryan? That's me. I got it. Okay, sorry So No, as I understand it the there's the upper stage the interim cryogenic Propulsion stage IP Interim ICP Second one the second stage from a second state. Yeah, sure that one the interim stage So it turns out it was a valve on that that was actually at fault And so they can't instead of doing a wet dress now They're gonna do a damp dress I guess where they're not going to wet it all the way Well, they can't even do that now because yesterday there was a leak in the mobile launch service mask at the bottom So so there so according to just a tweet from Jeff Faust Wet dress rehearsal will be these these are great. So SLS Hang on there are a few here super leaky stick. We've got seriously leaky systems I guess that's it Yeah, I and then they reminded me as I see PS that the Intermediate cryogenic propulsion stage is that that's what that is right? Who knew the Rockins were saying clown posse in space Yeah, yeah, there we go. Yeah, you interim cryogenic propulsion Hello, that was me trying to remember their acronym and then reversing back out of it desperately So I was trying to remember what it meant and then trying to come up with the acronym and then seems the acronym It was what I remember the acronym being and then reversing back out of the acronym into what it actually was You second guess yourself. Yeah slightly loose seals SLS. That's really great, too. I like that one. Oh my god Some liquid seeps. Okay, so what's the deal so? No You don't hang out for leave in the comments what SLS dance Let's keep this theme going or tweet it out. Hashtag what? What is this? Oh, hang on we're gonna Twitter The internet the SLS community is gonna hate me what does SLS stand for I mean Wrong answers only There you go on the Twitter account on the tomorrow Twitter That is amazing. Oh boy. So gosh, so okay. What else is going? So it turned out not it was kind of the mobile launch tower, but really it was the ICPS So that's a problem. So we how are we we can't even so then we can't fill the whole vehicle All the way up with cryogenic fuel because of the second stage effectively, right? Yeah, so That's an issue So now we've got a wet dress, but we can't fully wet the vehicle. So we'll damp the vehicle It's a it's a moist moist dress a moist. Yeah Moist dress a damp dress rehearsal so but now you're saying they can't even do a damp dress rehearsal because why oh The mobile tail structure, I think that's what it was, right? I think that's what they called it Yeah, the mobile excuse me mobile launcher service mast Which is attached to the course? SM Yeah, sounds good It was leaking as well And they haven't been able to figure out the leak and of course guess guess what it is that's leaking. What what is it? What do you think about always leaks the grounding billicle carrier place? Hydrogen, of course, it's hydrogen. It's always it's always hydrogen really tiny Adam The joke about the ground and billicle carrier plate comes from data because he went to go see he wanted to see He went to Florida to see a space shuttle launch Mm-hmm, and you were there for how long data not just went drove drove from California to Florida drove Which is like at least a three-hour drive something like that The five all the way there the ten it goes all the way. Oh, nice Yeah, so you drove for four days to get down to Florida. Yes, this is one of the what this was STS 133 Yeah, so that's a memory so STS 133 for everybody but me. Yeah a hole So so you go you drive down to STS 133 and What what happened data? How was that launch for you? I drove in October. Uh-huh, and they didn't launch until February So and why did they not launch again data the ground and billicle carrier plate the gup It leaked and then when they defueled it they noticed stringers cracked So they had to take the whole stack all the way back to the VA be take the foam off replace the stringers So that they can launch in February There are some snarky replies on Twitter from this one of them says wrong answers currently space launch system sounds like pretty it's pretty inaccurate Super late system is another one that No because it was Cocooned entirely in the road mobile service structure. No hang on hang on for STS 133 Like they went out and went to launch. Yes, but I didn't see it on the pad. I Saw the shuttle the boosters. I saw the external tank. I did not see the shuttle How did you not see the shuttle because it was entirely cocooned in the rotating surfaces structure But but you must have but you would have been there for like they didn't scrub the launch until like launch day itself When they started flowing liquid hydrogen Like they were flowing liquid hydrogen through the ground abylical carrier plate and that's what caused them to They're like, okay. This is no no bueno. So they backed out of it and they said no No, I don't think they had decan decacooned it yet Well, they would have absolutely decan to cocooned it if they were flowing hydrogen Mmm Yes, they would not flow fuel with that up there that cocoon was removed after like they don't keep that there For the fueling process. I didn't have the access you did I'm just saying you but you were must you were there for launch day when they were supposed to launch, right? I was in Florida. Yes, I didn't have a place to go to launch because they had called off the launch Okay, yeah, I remember that one. I think I think they do decan cocoon Did it at night and over over the night they were Is when they discovered the leak We I remember okay, it doesn't matter. We're we're all we're going around in circles. Okay, what so the space launch system the space launch system Now what make how we can't stay at the pad forever No, so if they can't fix we're hitting storm seasoning Florida, too. Yeah, like legitimately Yeah, so if they obviously if they keep what I think what I heard was that if they can't fix the leak or Troubleshoot the leak at the pad. They're gonna have to just roll it back to the VAB and and fix it there Which they already are gonna have to roll back to the VAB to fix the valve on the the interim cryogenic propulsion Right. We already have we already have a waiver on the solid motors Yes for launch up until Alejandro corrects me every single show and you would think that I would remember by this point But I want to say it's June July. Well, I will write it. We should write it in sharpening on the table is what we should do The date July. Thank you July lull is the answer I got So April May This is not feeling like we're launching this thing by July. No You what are you doing launches in August between August 1st and August 14th? Because you're completely unbiased reasons So well you say for completely unbiased reasons, but when space launch system rolls out I feel like they're going to own the range at that point, right? Not if you have an interplanetary launch If you have a interplanetary launch that has a specific launch window because that's like when it has the amount of Energy that will take over the entire range that will even Supercede a DOD or an NRO launch. Wow because it has to happen in that time period I will are you sure it would super supersede a DOD launch? I'm pretty sure it would are you pretty she's like I'm fairly US government would govern below the laws of physics. Yeah, I Think the well, no, I think the US government would say no, no, that's cool You've got a planetary mission, but like yes scooch over. Yeah, I don't think that's I don't think that kind of a conflict has actually ever occurred though That's that's usually I would imagine because these things are I don't want to say set in stone, but they're pretty well understood Years ahead of time. There's usually some planning that can happen as in two to three years before They'll tell the launch providers. No this block of time is not available to anybody except for except for psyche So the launch okay, so at least that's how I think it would work So we don't think it's going by June June July. What did he say it was June? July July there we go. We didn't we don't think it's going by July Dada you Not if they've got these many issues. Yeah, all right hang on I'm gonna get a poll going Somebody keep talking while I do this poll because I want to know what you guys think and I'll give you the answers of the Like and we'll run a poll for a minute or two see what you guys think but Ryan why do you want it to go in August? Yeah, why oh why would you want it to go in August? Because fingers crossed. I'll be there at the start of August Thanks to everyone who has contributed to my go find me page, which is linked somewhere That's helpful Very helpful, I can I can grab a link quickly if I can find it. Alright, so as you do that I've got the pull-up. This is on YouTube. So for the Did I do something this is not for those of you on the member chat? I only did it in the big the real room the real room The public group the public actually the member chat arguably is more real than the public one I only did in the public room. So I'm so far. We are at 71% no So okay, so now let's talk about the ramifications of that because we've already got the waiver for the The solids. Do you think they'll write another waiver? Yes, so I they absolutely will Confident that they will you don't think there's a time where those that waiver will expire and they won't renew it Yeah, okay, that that's a that's the real question because there is a time When do you think what is that threshold? What where what is that line? Where is that line where they go? We're too far. We can no longer issue another waiver like we got we got a rock showing rust on the outside of the booster That's when those that's when they'll say maybe we need it. Maybe we need to clean this up a bit I God, I hope it's before that because rust always starts in the hidden places not the visible places Yeah, and it's always a concern where it's not visible So when were the boosters originally approved for as in before this waiver Alejandro entirely Now space bike come to us with the answers Yes, and yeah, the J this question comes from James with the boosters expire What were they do with them? Well, it's it's not the boosters that are expiring is the seals that are expiring, right? I believe so we can destack Pull the they could get solid motors apart one X is out of that so they could just use it for that I don't know what the problem is experimental launches for fun. I don't know what the problem is We've never had an issue with the O-rings on SRBs. Have we? According to Jay Henson one the original date was January. All right So yeah, but they had to do a waiver from January to and they only wavered six months. Yeah, six months Whatever, well, it's aerospace six months So, okay Yeah, all right. Oh, oh my gosh. I said NASA space flight come come help us I love every bit of that and it's probably Alejandro logging into the It was Chris. Thank you Chris. I appreciate it. Oh, we love you We need Chris on standby for all the fact-checking during the show. That would be great Used by date August 2019 Okay So we are way off track so okay, so you're we're in a scenario where hang on let me go back to the pole because I'm sure it changed Okay, we're at a point where 65% and the pole is equalized. So I'm gonna end the pole 65% of people think that it will not launch by the end of July which means another waiver will need to be issued for the solid rocket motors on the on either side of it to Dada's point. It's really the seals on the solid rocket motors that are going to be expiring This the solid material. It's so the solid material the propellant I heard I heard it after I said it The propellant in a solid rocket motor is good for I don't know how long I don't know that particular mixture ratio, but it's got to be good for a Long time eventually the surface oxidizes and it is a little more difficult to get it to ignite but It's I just add more fire. Well the firing chain on that is so complex I just add more complexity. Just put it next just put it next to the cup Okay, so now what what do we think is gonna happen? Do you think that so you think they'll issue another waiver? Yes, Ryan I think they're issuing another waiver until they physically can't anymore. Okay, but when okay That's that when is that and you think it's when it's rusty when they don't when they don't work They're not gonna know if they don't work. Yeah, they don't work as of last year Right, I mean that's that's the line the line is these these are certified to this point They're no longer certified. We're issuing waivers saying we know that these are not certified That we are flying under risk of seals Yep, so the waiver isn't oh, hey everything's hunky-dory the Hager the waiver is saying we Understand there is risk and we accept that risk at flight and every time we extend that waiver We're extending and increasing the risk So we're accepting accepting more risk, right? Where do they on their inaugural flight of? This four billion dollar rocket that the world will be watching Where do we draw that risk line? When the SRB's don't Right I'm gonna go way out on a limb here, and I'm gonna say a year from now I think they would extend the waiver all the way out to possibly even June 2023 Hmm, and that's mostly because I'm I'm beginning to become very pessimistic about it And I actually don't think it's gonna launch this year. I think we're gonna have to wait until 2023 for That's the launch They push them another six months like as a maximum I'm just gonna go with the safe six months number six months six months I think I'm on six. I think I'm on the six months camp I think they'll waiver until the end of the year and then go from there now the next question And I'm gonna add this as a poll so stall for just a moment sure That's a couple new boosters for Christmas If an SRB fails on in flight, and I really hope it doesn't obviously we're saying that we hope it doesn't period Let's just get that out of the way But if one does fail does that count as as a launch or is Chris going to be correct with zero? Yeah Launches this execution of the launch command. I would I would agree with that. I so a launch is They put they push the button to make fire they make fire They let go of the rocket and whether it goes up or down. There's no there's inertia. There is no let go of rocket true There there is no let go of rocket. There's there are no hold downs That's our bees are not attached to the to the base something is attached. No So the rocket is sitting on itself. Yep. Yes. Yes, it is Just like how I'm attached to this chair by sitting on myself So there are no frangible. No, nothing. It just sits there on what was it resting on same things it rested on for shuttle Yeah, but shuttle had frangible not that that was a whole thing. They just didn't put the bolts in Okay, they didn't they don't need to because it's all of all of the center of gravity is directly over the Posts on the SRBs Okay Low it must be really low, right? So it's over the the thrust structure at the bottom that like it's really low and like Spread out man. It just until it's fueled bottom line. There isn't a crude Double delta wing hypersonic glider. Yes sitting on the side Back throwing the center of gravity out of the footprint of the SRBs Well, this is yet another reason why it's kind of awesome not to have a side mounted vehicle Yeah, who knew I actually had no idea that they were not doing any sort of hold downs on the space launch system. No, none whatsoever Huh? Yeah, huh? All right Okay, I'll total out my track of mind track of thought So the question the poll that I gave out and this isn't the results are interesting already And I'm gonna go around the room with this one The generally speaking everyone in studio basically said no We're not going to launch before they have to issue another waiver. So we're not going before July Will they launch in 2022? That's this year by by December 31st 2359 59 Yes, yes, no, no, which time zone Eastern typical data I Gotta give my qualifications right sure Eastern Launch launch look local to the launch vehicle It's gonna be amazing when it goes at January 1st at 0-0-0-0-2 Yeah, you think it's going to I'm gonna say yes to I think I also think it's going in 2022 I think they're going to issue another waiver and I feel my gut on this one I feel like August right because this is still an experimental vehicle. I think August 2nd Definitely and then Starship will be August 3rd. Yeah, and then Vulcan will be August 4th And then new Glenn will be August 5th August is gonna be the best months for the rocket. Yeah Well, unfortunately Ryan new Glenn actually launched six months ago, and they're just going to release the footage So we're just still working on the editing. They had an issue. They got to edit. It's a really difficult edit So the poll that I issued about the same number of people is about 50 or so people have answered The the the results are inverted this time So 72% of people say yes, it will launch in 2022 with 28% of people saying no so Yeah, so I think a lot of us are kind of in the August to December time frame I really do feel like August feels like a good, you know, yeah The issues they're having are kind of I don't want to say Expected but normal. Yeah, this is a growing pains It's growing pains of a of a brand new launch mount the vehicle may have been shuttle-derived But like all the things and all the interactions that has with the stuff around it. It's all new It might as well be a new vehicle. I I think the shuttle it's just the same kind of scheme. Yeah So say that again Ryan It's just the same color scheme and it's got the same engines But it's just like everything else and the engines are also there's four of them. Yeah, yeah Dada, I think the shuttle Shuttle heritage is largely marketing Yeah, that one was weird. I mean, it was a good. It was a good idea, but they didn't end up not doing that Sounded like a good and it sounded good to public publicity. Okay, I guess yeah Yeah, great to Congress proven track record. So yeah, but we changed already in place We can do it quickly quickly and cheaply the the launch pad said I feel August also since NASA has now Started to include that window when being asked by press about launch windows. Hey, so yeah, what do you know? Yeah, look and they're gonna and as someone who has gone through this process before it's painful And you just want it to work, but at the same time it's more important to have these issues You want to have these issues on the ground not up in the air get it right the first time Yeah, I mean ish again. It's an experimental vehicle. Yeah, look if they lose the vehicle on a scent That's not ideal. Like we're not cheering for that. We don't want them to lose the vehicle But if they lose the vehicle on a scent, this is the time to lose it. They're they're in the testing phase This is a test mission. This is not an active We're not we're not putting humans on board this thing on this first mission, which by the way, they did for shuttle That's right That's the anniversary of this one. They're a test mission. Yeah, exactly. Yeah Yeah, I didn't even notice your shirt until now. Yes. Thank you. We are what is it was a couple days? Yeah, after three days after so, so, you know three days ago. However many years ago was the very first STS one the first STS first and only several STS one To be fair, it was delayed It was yeah, that's true. They had a computer issue for those who don't know is also Yuri Gagarin's flight was 20 years prior to that the very first human in space that we know of was Yuri Gagarin Yes, we know The very first successful human space flight was Yuri Gagarin Who knows what happened before that? Maybe Russia told us or the Soviet Union told us maybe they didn't maybe Just what's a few are sevens amongst friends. Ooh, this is an interesting question VV asks if the spurs If the first space launch system launch fails. Oh, that is difficult to say Do you think the second launch will be with crew? Oh, no, I don't know. I think the little Starliner that where That's is that our official terminology now, they're gonna have to Starliner it Yeah, they'll be like oopsie doopers and then try again Another another four billion dollars in a year later Actually that brings up the next and by the way, so what you do you think though you think they'll start a liner it Yeah, I would have to I would you can't fly a crew on on something unproven some dolphin John says otherwise John young. Yeah, well John young is on another level Alright, so let's just John young would just be like, yeah Go up there and fly it. Let's say space launch system This is kind of fun The what ifs like getting everyone's opinion on what's that like I didn't expect to like time for opinions And leave him if you're not watching live leave him in the comments below. I'm curious to know what you think Now obviously be nice like everyone gets really really touchy and they root for their own team And if you know space launch system isn't your team Don't go out of your way to be cruel to space launch system and vice versa if the space launch system is your team Like yeah, we get it, but also just calm down. Oh Oh NASA space flight. No, Atlantis all the way. Um, okay, so I mean, I don't acknowledge that there were any other orbiters other than atlantis I think that was really the only all of the other orbiters were just leading up to building the ultimate Orbiter which was atlantis. They were basically test ever So that was a Frankenstein. Jamie is wrong at tmro.t Um, thank you the launch pad with saying a hashtag team atlantis absolutely So, okay, so the next question from Eric is okay Let's just say that we do lose the first vehicle on ascent, which is a very real possibility Right with all these waivers flying around it Well, I mean there's enough waivers. You got a ticker tape parade at this point But also you don't know what you don't know. That's the thing to remember This is an experimental launch. So let's just say we lose it on ascent somewhere Do you think there will be a second flight? Will they have the political capital necessary to fly another another space launch system? It depends on what breaks Yeah, okay Give me scenarios data Well, if the sls first stage is successful, then they can rebrand the upper stage and I don't know do some pr spin on that if the sls first stage fails then Like that's the rocket They're both. I mean, okay. Yeah, I feel like if the second stage rebrand the first stage then no, I It's too familiar. Just design a new logo. Just change the name of the agency. I don't know USA gaunchy. I don't know just something just changes something different to something different Oh, this is I feel like if the second these are really good questions chat rooms Um, hang on. Hang on. I was just about to say that this one No, the one before that so okay. Uh, so hang on. Let me just do that Yes, if the I was going to say if the second stage doesn't work out They can just skip and go straight to the exploration upper stage which so why wait I feel like go for it. They could so uh now go back go back So this is what I was originally going to bring up which does the answer change if the launch abort system still works Right because uh, are they they're flying with a fully Enabled launch abort system. Are they not yes, so if there is a problem we can test launch abort and Like if that works and it proves that the systems Oh, wait, hold up. Here's Alejandro. Let's see correcting us. All right This is why you need to ask a space flight in the room So the launch abort system is non-functional for Artemis one. There is no abort system. So then So then why would you do that? Why would you do that? What do you think it is a space shuttle? You watch a four billion dollar rocket with the world looking at it and if something goes wrong get screwed Well, there's no people on board. So you're not really screwed Yeah, it's just they can demonstrate that they have the ability to Save the capsule in flight SpaceX had to do an in-flight abort test Boeing had to do an in-flight abort test uh Wait, wait, did starling or doing in flight abort? They did an abort test They didn't they did it, but they didn't do the in-flight one. Yeah. Yeah, but orion did an in-flight or did an abort test It's not in flight What orion has done an abort test but not in flight No, orion did do an in-flight abort test. They put it on top of a I think it was a peak first stage of a Old peacekeeper icbm and launched it and then at max q. They popped it off. Yes. Yes, sir. I forgot about my god I forgot they didn't recover it. That was forever ago. Yeah That was that was in the before time. That was not I think I was in the before before times when we were space vidcast No, no not that not that long ago because there were other there were other there was hold up There was a ground abort that was definitely in the before space vidcast times But I want to say the in-flight abort was like 2019 or something like that's not something at launch. Yeah That's definitely that's not what I'm thinking of then so yeah I completely forgot about that. I apparently don't remember it at all NASA space flight anyone remember Maximum launch abort system. I remember that it was cool So there it is Little stubby thing. Yeah, it's on a peacekeeper But instead of a nuclear warhead. It's got a are you right that was like a one stage of so first up That is not actually what I was thinking of uh, but uh, that was you were right That's july 2nd 2019 indeed in the before time. So just before times not the before before happy 4th of july Two days ahead of time everybody So they also didn't recover the orion on that they had the uh, that wasn't the point of they had the data recorders jettison themselves out Save yourself Data recorders In systems first. All right. All right, uh, let's I got to get back to my chat room here Um, I'm losing but still getting back to the main point. What's the point of not having the abort Abort system enabled or there's nobody on board. Okay, but still like space x for the commercial crew missions They have the ability to save the dragon. They just can't fire the super tracers because they don't exist Why can they not why can nasa just not? Prove if something does go wrong with their four billion dollar rocket which is paid for by taxpayers Why can't they prove they can save Crucial parts of said four billion dollar rocket I would have put an abort system on it. So it's hard for me to answer your question. Yeah I think that's why we're all sitting here in science. Yeah, and like we're just like There is a design. There is a decision tree there that I think we are not aware of like someone has data that we don't But what do you know you would have put cameras on james web? Okay, Allah says it's because originally this orion was supposed to launch before that in flight abort test So this launch escape system is totally inert minus jettison motor. Yeah, but the It was it was made 10 years ago. No, hang on, but the but the orion Abort system is the it's basically the the the snuggy capsule thing that goes on top, right? It's like a sleeve that goes on top. Yes. It's the beanie that goes on top of ryan It's the orion's the hat is orion's hat exactly the pointy hat of safety Is that the name of the show the point hold up hold up gotta write that down the pointy Pointy hat. I don't think we could have safety Okay, cool So, okay But Alejandro, here's my dumb quite jump my dumb ignorant question is why can't we just change orion's hat? Can't it have a new pointy hat of safety? Right like I don't feel like these are Well, come on, you know what I mean Oh Alejandro, I have no okay someone else from nasa finally help us out nasa space flight Why can't we have a different pointy hat of safety sitting on top of orion? Are they actually like married together? Are they Do they do um, I'm trying to say when you drill the hole through one and it's um Match drilled. Uh, yeah, are they like match drilled so that you can't Change hats You know what? I think there's your explosive bolts. It probably yeah, you're frangible nuts. There you go. There they are I Don't have that problem anymore Okay, because the pointy hat costs 1.6, but the pointy hat does not cost 1.6 billion dollars That is not what's going on here. Although if somebody at nasa says it was too expensive to put on there I'm just gonna be like Yeah, I feel like so you've already spent four billion dollars expensive to scythe the corridor. Yeah Yeah, it's too expensive to put on our expensive rocket for this expensive flight For me and this is the same thing with like wet dress at least From my chair with not all of the data And I I hate it when people armchair engineer me and so let me do it to someone else now Um, all right reddit Uh, what wait someone said thanks buoy NASA spaceflight does say I think it might end up with another 500 million dollar contract to deal with it Oh, it's I'm only laughing because it hurts because it's so true. Are they recovering this capsule? This one, yeah, uh, yeah Yeah, it's supposed to go through reentry and been splashed. I mean, I would hope so I fundamentally disagree with this decision I feel I die. Yeah Well, it's if it if there's a launcher board we know that that's not happening like I feel like if the if the capsules reusable they would want they should want to reuse it Why wouldn't you have an abort system on it? So technically this is not an all-up launch It's not all of the system. That's just it. Why why should it should be an all-up launch shouldn't it? Yes Like what after 10 years and four billion dollars. Yeah, Daniel you damn well better, right? I mean, it's better than an ari's 1x which was not an ari's 1 like it was that was a whole thing Not ari's not one No, it was x. That was the only thing it was was x. Let's put an aerodynamic top A hat an aerodynamic hat an aerodynamic hat. You know what rocket hats are that that's the new look everybody We did something. You kind of we did something. I did a thing Well, also they went oh and look we won't shake the astronauts to death Bonus points. Yeah Sort of all right sort of just destroy some of our fixed service structure in the process Now that we're 30 minutes in geribut excited you about Thank you, uh your transitions fluid as always I would not say my transitions have been fluid at all. No, they're very leaky actually So um, yeah, even I was like, where did that one go? Yeah, just a little bit. Um, but I'm pretty there's been a lot of actually Astronomy stuff that I've been excited about over the past couple of weeks. So if you want to call it boring, I guess So, um, we've got the next generation space telescope getting the mid infrared instrument down to Uh, a very cold temperature now. It's only uh, it's only at 200 and minus 266 Celsius So, uh, which is if you're wondering how cold that is it's about seven kelvin So about seven degrees Celsius above absolute zero So no big uh on that front and that was a pretty big deal because there was this thing they they called a pinch point Which is uh where it went from 15 degrees above absolute zero to this seven which was of a point It would be very difficult uh to get the cooling through and they've done it and They've now looked at some of the data coming back from it and they have found uh that it is indeed Actually performing better than expected. So uh, and that seems to be just the running theme with the next generation space telescope It's just getting better better and better and better and better than Then ground tests even said it should be at its best. We're calling it the next generation space telescope now Yeah, well, i'm calling it that so I thought it was betty white. So I just it could be the betty white if you want to but also it's original It's original name when it was proposed the back in the 90s was the next generation space telescope I just think that sounds pretty cool. So and it's also true. So yeah So let's run out with that. What about then what about the next one though? So i'm gonna be the next next generation space telescope Um, yeah, yeah, we could we could also call it the the following next generation space telescope or um Or possibly space telescope discovery. Yeah, space telescope discovery, uh, space telescope enterprise Space telescope Picard perhaps space telescope the next generation next generation space telescope the next generation or a deep Or deep space telescope nine for uh, oh my god. Yeah, so that's a good one. That's a good one too. So Um, but yeah, yeah, so it's all good. It was super exciting I thought you said in a show not that long ago that next generation space telescope was Already like near the limits of what physics would allow. Yes So are we at the limits of what physics will allow now or is it just is are we talking about something else with regards to Oh, no, we it's I it's pretty close to how cold it it's it's basically at its operating temperature Um, is it at its operating temperature or basically at its operating temperature. It's basically at it's at operating temperature basically So it's supposed to it's right where it needs to be at So does that help clarify it a little bit more not there not at all Okay, no So we want it to be at minus 266 degrees celsius when it runs and it is now at minus 266 degrees celsius So it is exactly where it needs to be And now they are going to ask you they are now going to calibrate it So that way they can make sure that everything has set up and is running correctly. Will it continue to get colder? No, what if it did? Uh, that would be a very interesting problem to have So would it be a problem or like would it be good? It would be a problem So because it's not really designed to go much colder than that Are they advancing material sciences in any way by this? Yes Yeah, you were having to keep something at literally, you know, seven degrees celsius above absolute zero for at least a decade So yeah, you've got to be able to to work with Unbelievable materials at that point. Well, are they working with unbelievable material? Yep, that one. Just go with it. Yeah, they are working with them. It's gonna. I'm going to unbelievable unbelievable I think there were two or three bs in that unbelievable unbelievable Unbelievable I'm for it So is it existing unbelievable materials or is it new unbelievable materials that they're generating a little bit of a mix? Hey, I said that like three or four times in a row, which was hard to first off Screwing it up is whatever but like then repeating it. That's hard to do Yeah, so I'm sorry and I was so proud of myself. I ignored your answer It is a mix of both. Okay. It's things that were developed for it and things that we also have as well So And how will we how will we a society? When do I need pants that will protect me from negative 266 degrees celsius? Well, you never know when you're going to end up at a wet dress rehearsal and the leak could happen Full circle full circle, but also things like like superconductors and other stuff like that So, I mean those have to be super cold in order to operate them and like they're kind of important So So, you know, just to slide slide them out. So with that, what's up? What's somebody say? That's good. That's good. That's funny. Nice Very nice. That's only negative 264 Yeah, yes Yeah, get on our level get that extra two degrees celsius with that so But I also saw some folks in the chat room talking about the big comment That everybody's talking about which we can talk about it, but you're not going to see it But it's it is a big comment and it's coming into the inner solar or not the inner solar system Excuse me the solar system right now and we're tracking it And they actually just took some imagery with Hubble and released that a few days ago very cool It's called Bernadeli Bernstein And it's 129 kilometers across Bernadeli Bernstein Bernadeli Bernstein. What's the meaning behind the name? That is the two astronomers that discovered it So if you discover a comet you typically get to name it And then if two astronomers or if multiple astronomers discover it at the same time They'll have they'll basically attach both of their names if they want to name it after themselves So they don't necessarily have to but they can so would you name it after yourself? Do I name a comet John? Yeah, you could have a You have to you have to find it first. Typically. Yeah, that is very true. Um, typically they're gonna That's the hard part. Yeah, I knew someone was like You knew this this was showing up in the chat Yeah, oh, yeah, you there was no question about that. Oh, yeah, I've never heard that one before Yeah, I've never seen that So Actually, uh paracron john there saying comet john is approved Actually, that would work because typically we want to use your last name to name the comet not Your first name. So if I discovered one it'd probably be comet head so So which is pretty great. I gotta say Because that's my last name It's so perfect. It's so perfect. I love it. Oh, oh my god. Uh, this is a good one too. Uh, call it doctor A comet rule in honor That's a good one too. It's a really big big crommet out in the solar system Oh my god But just to give you an idea of how big bird of deli Bernstein is compared to other comets Uh, it's about 12 times bigger than Halley's comet and about twice the size of comet hail bop You will not be able to see it because it is only coming into the orbit of Saturn It will not be coming close enough to get very very active So you won't be able to see it, but if some of our view is uh orbiting satan Yeah, actually if you're out in your Saturn, maybe, um, I don't know where it's gonna be You know, I don't know where satan's gonna be at that time. I think it's twin I think it's near Mercury's Mercury's Sun Uranus Water planet So it's out there what the what the world can't see right now is that I'm I'm doing an internal debate Is to whether get up and leave the set and go fix an issue with our chat system check this out Linux just randomly decided that it was like hey, I want to update And it threw Preview what's going on here go ahead and uh hit hit the button or not All right, I'll hit the button To show the There you go. I was kind of trying to find the find out what you get rid of it. You can't Only I can get rid of that. So um Why don't you two have it because I would like to get the chat room back because you guys have been awesome So give me a moment. I'm just gonna live on the air get up and leave To go authenticate Hang out with with the way my words have been going. I'm gonna say authenticate Hey, can you can you fix my flashy screen too? No? No Oh god, is it really? Yeah Everything you can't break is break breaking. This is beautiful. I love this So I would like to thank all of the members of tomorrow who uh their contributions are going towards new media converters Everyone in the skate velocity All of your contributions are going towards new media converters And the like I can do this. Oh my god. All right. I'm gonna get off set. I'm gonna fix our chat room No, I'm not actually closing out the show. We're gonna mention all the members again, but like yeah Thank you. So you two have a conversation. Well, I could try to go fix a bunch hit the space bar really fast Hit the space bar. I'm going to go turn the space station off and back on again real quick Did you try to turn it off and turning it back on again? Super good. Uh, all right since jamie's gone and I want to talk astronomy with jamie here because it's torturous for her Ryan why don't we talk a little bit about space x because jamie now really isn't here. So we're good We could talk about space x all we want. What's been up with space x since our last show They launched a private crew to the iss and it's really cool Because it's the first ever fully private crew to the international space station in partnership with axiom And I just think that's really cool Because I I also think this will be the longest Yeah, it will be the longest fully private flight Inspiration for any lasted like three in a bit days. This is lasting a week over a week Which is very cool to see these private space flights getting longer and longer. These are relatively air quotes normal people Yeah, who have flown to space for a long duration of time, which is cool Now are they just going up there because they have a lot of money and they're doing just like a joy ride Like I'm just going to go up there and sit in the cupola for four to five hours Are they actually doing something of substance in space? It's a bit of that If I mean if you got the opportunity to go to the iss you would want to do that But there's also some science things. They're doing. There's also some steam outreach things. They're doing, uh, which, uh, Which I wouldn't I wouldn't say justifies the mission But it makes it a lot more interesting for everyone other than themselves. It's very cool to see them Yes, we'll spend all this money and go and have fun in space But we'll also let everyone else sort of experience this as well We'll make this better humanity through our payment to go to space So it's not just millionaires having a joy ride They're actually helping us and kind of bringing us along for the ride as well, which I think Is it's so important to do that because if you don't do that We won't know what's happening and this is some really cool stuff that's happening Yeah, and I I gotta agree with that. So, uh, it is it is really cool that they're actually doing something of substance A wild data appeared. Yeah, I was gonna say uh with that But just I had a comment. It was all queued up and then Jared talked. Okay. I'm sorry No, you're good. No. No. I want to hear data. Yeah, I want to hear the great the wise and powerful data Dada is good. Dada is no attention to the data behind the curtain. Um, the one that we gave a camera. Yeah. Yeah, that's great Yeah, um, so they have to they're doing they're doing something of scientific importance so that they can get their ass from that wings, right? I don't know. Are they or were they already or were they planning to do that? Isn't isn't that one of the requirements now? I don't remember the new requirements. I thought one of the requirements was just being A nasa going through nasa. I thought that was a requirement like any private If you do not go through nasa, then you do not count I thought that was the requirements. So like crew three crew four they'll get their wings But if you're going through axiom or just directly with SpaceX then no Yeah, I was going to say there this is not this is not like a like a flight being done all by itself I think I think what that clarification from the faa at the end of 2021 was for was for sub orbital flights Um, I think for orbital flights. You do get your astronaut wings I would imagine these folks are going to get their astronaut wings because they are actually doing something Well, they they got a different type of wings during the welcome ceremony. Didn't they like there's a whole thing in the welcome ceremony of like You've got the new wings. These are not the regular wings and they have like the number They had like the another five or whatever it was. Yeah um, and then Um, yeah, yeah, as writer says they got a new type of wing, but then also Yeah, uh, tom mentions and I believe this is correct. The faa has stopped issuing wings Yes, much like you don't get uh airline wings when you fly on an airplane. You don't I always ask Do you get wings? I don't know. I haven't flown in a long time How do you think I get all the stripes on my shoulder? I kind of want to ask now next time I fly Right, I'd be like, can I ask you all got some wings? Yeah, can I have some uh airline wings? No, not like buffalo wings airline wings Yeah, that's really cool. So Uh, Paul is saying in the chat that orbital missions do have to have a scientific nature now to be entitled to wings Yeah, but that's very machine vague. Yeah scientific nature Yeah, okay Well, I mean that takes you out of the joyride like what? Yeah Like if you're doing studies on something make sense to me I know but what does scientific nature mean like if you just Uh, set give them your heart rate at one point in the mission. Does that count? Uh, this is an interesting question. So this is an interesting comment though from aroville Which is today axiom astronauts are guests on a nasa-led space station, although arguably nasa roast cosmos Like it's not just nasa, but yeah tomorrow NASA astronauts will be guests space station. Yeah, yeah, nasa astronauts will be guests on an axiom-led space station Yes, that is an interesting way of looking at it, right because then axiom is using station as a launching point For the I probably shouldn't talk about any of this. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, and um Yeah, there I know axiom is working on getting a module their own module to the international space station and then eventually developing their own Private space station, which I I haven't heard whether the module they're going to have on station Will then go to their private one or not or if they're going to like somehow undock from the isa building They're building there. So what they're doing is they're taking or they're going to launch a few modules They're going to dock to the US side of the iss They'll then build their space station On the iss. So it will be a big iss. They'll build their space station and then they'll undock that And then they'll have their own space station and I'll just fly off wherever they want Dang, that's really cool. So we're gonna we're going to use the International space station as like a dock to build things So like a shipyard a port a port So a port with ports it makes me think of the Babylon 5 Um intro sequence a port for I bring it with it. I haven't watched Babylon 5. I know it just used the way you said a port It was like, ah, Babylon 5 is happening. We're building Babylon 5 Hopefully it's Babylon 5 and not Babylon 3 2 or 1 share quickly though Which is this very very amusing shot that I made sure to include in news wrong comment of the Alicona experiencing aliens Nice. I don't know if I Was is that a banana First scale Ah, excellent. That is an alien. Oh goodness. Are you telling me that bananas are aliens? They're really they're radioactive. They are sorry true So Invincily dangerous quite dangerous. Oh, there you go. Thank you. There's the axiom station on the iss I really like their cupola where it's like person-sized. It's like not your like like your elbows up. It's like you Entirely so Oh my god, that's great. I want that. I want to go floating that for a little bit So Actually, that's pretty cool. But I would I would go to there. It is cool and terrifying. Why is it terrifying? that much glass No pressure Sure. Oh, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It'll be it's you know, it's not glass It's not that hard. It's clear aluminum Transparent aluminum. That's what it is. That's right. Hey, man. If it can hold the whales I can hold out space. Hello computer If we can hold the whales. Oh, I see I have to do it the old-fashioned way Where else can you go for this kind of weird? A keyboard. We can't even quantify what this is. I can't I can't I can't yeah Cool. Oh, this is a good question. You know, we're talking about axiom But like who can say what has become of Bigelow's modules after his bankruptcy? I think there was a a little while ago a station took control of the The test module didn't they it's there now. Yeah, like they yeah, they're in control of it. They transferred ownership something something Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think I think basically the company's toast Bigelow. Yeah, I I have not heard anything out Since march of 2020 when they laid everybody offy me effective immediately. Yeah, I mean they noped out Yeah, they were like oh, we're done and they pulled it. Yeah, they they bealed it pandemic So So so I came back and destroyed your conversation. Yeah, thanks for that. I appreciate it. So Oh, that's actually kind of pretty nice. I could go bouncing off the walls than that Oh, god. So you're you're bouncing off the walls here It looks nice though Like that would be fun to float around like a big ipad on the floor that could be on the floor if you wanted it to The ipad. Oh, what if I want the ipad on the ceiling? We just turned around you could play dance dance revolution on it. I could You know, that would be an interesting video of watching someone trying to play dance dance revolution in space in microgravity Like, you know, they just keep bouncing off Oh, I'm being corrected about the transparent aluminum mirror Which is that it's a common misunderstanding. They didn't use the transparent aluminum to hold the whales They used extremely thick glass which the manufacturer they went to already made But they couldn't pay for the glass because they don't have money in the future, right? They don't have money because it's not a thing. Oh, so they traded the formula for transparent aluminum for the glass that they needed So there actually wasn't any way that they could have manufactured it that quickly. It was just It was that's how it happened So it went down. So it was an itar violation I feel like it's more of a spacetime violation Is it not a violation? I feel like that's a spacetime violation. Yeah All right, great kirk violated itar Now we're gonna have to kirk had nothing to do with it. It was scottie and and uh McCoy Oh my god. All right, we have to bring that up now. We're off. We're off top Did you have more astrology you wanted to talk to me about? Uh Did you hear my brain struggle to figure out which one which one I wanted to use in that moment? Astrology that that hurts. So I think I'm done With that. All I had to do was throw the astrology knife at you. Thanks for that. I'll set way. I appreciate that I was scooting into my camera shot me Oh, thanks, Alejandro This is a comment I actually want to talk about this though because this is really interesting the last two falcon nine landings Uh, we had its continuous coverage, which is brilliant. And I know jamie can't say anything But elon said on twerries because of starlink and i'm going to believe what he says Yeah, it was buoys It was buoys. It's buoys. It's buoys all the way down. We don't we don't talk about buoys. So no not really So Yeah, I can't talk about him. So no, I'm we're not asking you to talk about it. So it's just yeah Wait, so this is pretty good elon must buys twitter in a vial. Oh, no that I thought he's buys buoys in a violent takeover now Uh, that that is yeah, he's elon's gonna do whatever elon does. Yeah, I thought that elon's gonna elon I thought it was buoys in there and I misread it The boy That's pretty good too. All right, are we are we on too too deep on the inside buoys joke? Yeah, I think we are anything else from you ryan. Are we uh, we wrapping up here? No All right, you jared, uh, just perseverance thoughts parachute and backshell on mars And I thought that was pretty cool So took some photos and you could see the parachute and the backshell sitting there So nobody's picked it up yet and returned it to jpl. So hurry up somebody Oh, is that like to capture the flag on station? Sure, right? Yeah like capture the Backshell on mars. I don't yeah Yeah might as well. I mean, we've got instructions as to where you have to return it to on parachute Actually, that's a pretty interesting idea We should go to some of the old lander sites from some of the dead landers And just return to sender we could we could right we could also no actually jared. We can't not right now Well at some point at some point. Yeah, what are we waiting for? Money like let's do it space launch system and we can we can go find The little pieces of mars polar lander and and maybe stick it back together in like a collage This one construction paper something you're gonna have to dig for most of this This piece is about one inch in size. This piece is about five millimeters in size You guys like space jokes you is that good? Are we good with space jokes on this channel? That was well done. Thank you Thank you. Yeah, think about it for a second They're the same size. No, they're not this one's in millimeters Uh, oh, oh, that would be great eric w and ntsb reconstruction Oh my god, are they gonna have to interview all the flight engineers that worked on it In like a in like a like a hearing or something and then they're gonna have a seconds from disaster That has like with the ntsb investigation. Oh, yeah, this is I can see all the tv shows now Okay, yeah, it's just a documentary about Metric and imperial units. 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I don't know We'll have to work on One at a time one at a time like we're getting better with the the thing it takes these things things we have to We have to end this awkwardly We started awkwardly like you guys have no idea. We started like 10 minutes before you thought we started Oh, he wasn't on camera. He wasn't on camera for a good chunk of it. Oh, no He wasn't switching for a good chunk of it. We were live like at four 450. We were live Yeah, I wasn't watching what I said before I started talking about space launch system. We were already live great Yeah, you're welcome great always be ready. I'm gonna pull that on you. Yeah, thanks So we started awkwardly will end awkwardly in that with that I would just like to say to everyone who is watching