 The next question is from BigTurkAZ. What's your take on intra-workout food and drinks? What are the benefits to incorporating them and what are some good options? So overrated. Yeah, you know where intra, so intra-workout food or drinks would be like those gel cubes that you'll see runners eating or a carbohydrate drink or- Supplement companies love you. Yes, just they do. If you're doing, look, here's a deal. Studies will show there's value in them, but it's really specific, like long ruling workouts. If I was, listen, I, if you're the average person who's trying to change body composition, which I would say is 80 to 90% of the people listening to the podcast. And you're working out for an hour? Ways of time gives a shit about it. If you're a Spartan racer, ultra marathon runner, tremendous value. Cause that, you know, mile 17 or something, you're gonna be completely, you're gonna hit a wall if you don't refuel during that process. But the, it has become so grossly populated or overpopulated in the body building community that I used to just laugh about it. It was like the most comical thing I would see with my peers carrying around these bags and having to stop like midway and shove a bar in their mouth or drink their blue, hyper blue colored drink real quick. And it was just like, really? Come on. No, it's, if you have, if you're gonna work out for like two hours or more and it's grueling and it's hard, you may have some value in doing this. Otherwise, not really. I tell you what, if you wanna drink something during your workout that might actually make a difference, it's not carbohydrates and protein. It's electrolytes, sodium, for example. That actually will make a difference within the next 10 minutes. Carbohydrates, not really. If you've, if I've got plenty of stored glycogen and I'm not gonna burn it in the hour workout that I'm gonna do, which is probably, I'm probably not gonna burn it unless I'm really, really super low calorie or whatever. It's gotta take the most intense workout to burn all your glycogen stores. No, it's not gonna do anything for you and it's a total waste of time. If I'm doing a long ass, which I never do. I never do, I never do workouts that are more than an hour long. Well, that's a good point because that's the only, there wasn't a point where, when I was training for the show where I did get to where sometimes I'd stay at the gym for three hours, but I would break it up with feedings. There you go. So I would train for an hour pretty intensely and then I'd take a break, have some, get some food in me, drink some liquid calories, relax a little bit, maybe walk the treadmill for 20 minutes or that. Then boom, get back and do some more work in the gym. Like, but that is like, you're talking about the highest level of training. This is me at the professional level of trying to maintain this physique. Yeah, if you're playing a game, if you're playing a basketball game, which can last quite a bit, or a football game, then it starts to make sense. But your normal workouts, not really. It really doesn't make that big of a difference kind of waste of time, unless again, you're doing these super long workouts. But if you wanna drink something in your workout, probably electrolytes, that might make a difference. Especially if you're low carb or you don't eat a lot of processed foods, I would say before and then during, LMNT is something that- It's hot and humid and you're losing- It's a good example. Yeah, so you're sweating profusely. You know, that would be a good opportunity. There is exceptions to the rule here. I know I'm coming out and just like probably hammering, I tell people that are probably carrying their jugs around as they're listening to this right now. So I'm not trying to offend everybody, but it's just one of those things that, you know, when I got into that space and I saw how popular it was and I'd get clients and that's like, they were competing and they'd ask me like- It's the marketing experience. Yeah, they're like, oh, I'm like, no, don't even worry about that. There's so many other trends that are way more important. It's brilliant marketing because a supplement company knows that if you work out, the one thing that you do consistently is work out. And one of the most effective ways to get your product consumed consistently is to tie it to something that someone does anyways. You ritualize it, right? So every morning when you wake up or right before bed or your workout, so what do they come up with? At first it was post-workout shake. That's the first time that they ever, you know, really tied it to workouts. And it was brilliant. It sold more protein powder, by the way. Selling it as a post-workout supplement sold more protein powder than anything else anybody had ever done with protein powder. And then they got smart and said, why don't we sell a pre-workout supplement? And it exploded. Well, what about during the workout? So they have pre-workout, control workout. They hit it all now. There's just, and if they could come up with a reason to do quarter halfway through, three quarters of a wood, you know what I'm saying? Front half workout, back half workout. But before you do these exercises, do this fluid. Leg day workout drink, you know, arm day. Don't be surprised if they get some shit that comes like that. Someone will figure it out, you know. Hey, if you enjoyed that clip, you can find the full episode here or you can find other clips over here. And be sure to subscribe.