 Good day. Welcome to Zeldinformer's existential gaming roundtable. I'm your host for today Matthew Swadenski. With me today I have Colin MacIsaac Jared Attinger Jackson Murphy And Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's Brian So Should we say like who we are and what we do? Yeah, everyone already knows Okay Well, I'm a fairly new writer joined about a month ago first time. I'm doing the Zi podcast so I'm excited I am a forum moderator and Well, that's pretty much it. I hijacked my way onto the staff Jack I've been writing since around E3 and This is also my first podcast I was hired with around with Jordy and Jared around E3 and yeah, this is also my first podcast I was hired around early March of this year Great. Well, it was this everyone's first podcast here besides Matt That's exciting Can't wait for all the errors Yeah, oh, yeah, this is gonna be fun to edit All right, so Matt take us away to imagine a new place They will primarily be discussing the Wii U our reactions our impressions and our desires for it It's the gamepad and already tired gimmick. Are there no good games on the launch lineup? Well, we have to wait two years for a decent game to come out for the Wii U Stick around no In the reality though, we're basically just going to be circle jerking over the Wii U for about an hour. Whoo. Yeah I get it You got to introduce the topic I scripted everything Okay, the Wii U has received much hype and Tons of negativity from the conference that was held in New York yesterday, but before we get into that Let's talk about the Wii U itself. Thank you for that Okay Yes, let's talk about the Wii U itself. What do you guys think? It looks awesome I'm hyped. I am too. I'm really an excited for this You know for the biggest reason that everyone is saying is because finally we're gonna get all our favorite Nintendo things in full HD and that's Gonna be really exciting I'm really hyped for it, but not for this not for the fact that it's going to be an HD but because of the gamepad it could really free up the game from Interface clutter which many of the Zetla games have suffered from I would not call it suffering at all. I really do not mind interface on the main TV I'm very happy that a lot of this sort of thing is gonna be brought down to the gamepad But I really don't think that home console games in the past have had any issue with with an interface on the TV that really is You know detracts from what's going on The N64 games have like an interface sandwich Yeah, but I mean again like I'm in the middle of playing Majora's Mask right now and honestly I don't see too much of a problem Like it's all right everything that's there either has big enough gaps between them or is Sort of transparent so you can see what's going on quite well I really don't have a problem with it But I do understand why some people would and I am also excited that that's gonna be brought down to the gamepad It's just gonna give a nicer experience on the main TV Yeah, well, I'm like for Zelda It's less about like the interface the inventory on the touch screen It could do some cool things with the items because the DS Zelda games They're just it's fun to use the items with that at least for me. It's just not fun to control But I actually haven't played the DS Zelda games I played Ocarina of Time 3D and I think what that did with the interface was awesome I it worked really have to admit the top screen felt a little empty when compared to It did but you have to keep in mind that that's because the game Right, but you have to keep in mind. It's because it was keeping it was keeping everything Yeah About the screen being empty what you have to keep in mind is that the original game was made for Nintendo 64 it was made to Look empty so that when all this in when all this interface stuff is on the screen You're not really missing much and when they moved it down then Well, yeah, I want to add a bunch of random stuff to the game for the 3ds But you know when they're making something specifically for the interface being on the game pad They're gonna include a lot of extras on the TV screen to make it look, you know, exciting make you not want to Just run around and find the next interesting place, you know The the default interface for Skyward Sword was awful What I really hated about Skyward Sword interface was just item selection the motion control often would you know Would go way out of whack for me whenever I pressed B It would go fly over to the next corner of the screen and because it was real-time item selection I couldn't like get it back and make it work in time to actually select the item Before getting hit and then just not being happy. I didn't have that problem as much as you probably did But if you could keep real-time item selection, but with the touch screen. No, exactly. I completely agree I like real-time item selection I just think that that the flaw in it with Skyward Sword was that because you had to do it with the motion control and Another big issue with it is that you can't calibrate the sensor bar all you can choose is above TV or below TV and I have like a tiny little TV and so for that it just it's way out of whack either way if I choose above then it's then the Thing goes way too far down and if I choose below then it goes still just like regularly too far down well, um, I had I have a decently sized TV that I play my Wii games on and Frankly, I had the exact same problem mainly because of the motion controls would often get Uncalibrated yeah, it was great that Skyward Sword included press down to put the control back in the middle of the screen From where you were that was fantastic. I loved that and but I mean it with motion controls It's hard to really get them perfect because like I live I Have a very well-lit room that I play video games in and so because it uses All right, so we you you we got the gamepad and that's great. I Yeah, I'm wondering Jared and Brian. How big was the lag on the controller? That's an issue that a lot of people are always Good. Well, that's good. I'm very glad for that I I didn't expect that they would roll out a bunch of consoles that you know where their main feature is It's flawed heavily, but right you never know. It's always good to get like a first first-hand opinion I just like to state that that we've just gone over the fourth topic in the first topic I Okay, well still hardware Well What is there to say besides the gamepad? I mean you've got all the processors and stuff Let's talk about how bad the marketing for the Wii U is I think they're gonna marketing hasn't started yet. So well, that's the problem That's just it should have started to come out in November But you need you need to inform people way before you release something I do expect them to start marketing soon. They can't just I perfect. I expect them to as well I'm really predicting what their problem was is a dreadful a new console for a new you Oh God, oh God. Oh, we would like to play We would like to play was a great. Yes. That's oh my god. Either way, they're making fun of its name Well, we would like to play in so I was so well next or something like that like they already did that one But I think it'll help if they make it know that it's me. They they really need to and that's going to be very tough Yeah, I haven't really come across that many people. Oh, I had confused it with an add-on I like so many people. Yeah, but like such a fun to soccer moms and grandmothers and Everyone in my town thinks it's Nintendo's adaptation of the you draw tablet Yeah, it's just it's a big problem that they have to address and I think that that that Not selling game pad Separately was a perfect move to alleviate the confusion because you see on the box. It's got the game pad But then it's also a new console. Yeah No wonder how many people are going to purchase it and then open it on Christmas Day to find that there's another box in it Surprise it's actually a new system Well, I don't think I don't think a lot of people are going to In the Christmas season though because it's gonna be Well, Nintendo's been having that problem a lot recently Because well, I've met a few people like because I go to GameStop a lot So there's been a few kids in there who wanted Super Mario 3d lander offering the time 3d for their regular DS It doesn't work. They only have a DS. Oh Yeah Yeah, it's it's a problem and Really by keeping the same names as their old consoles and then just adding a number or a letter to it That's the fundamental problem with it. No, that's that is the reason like to the end that that if you add if it was Well, actually even with the DS it wouldn't work because there were so many There is no confusion. We too would have been you perfect That is it seems like something else for we but like if they had called the 3ds like DS 5 Everyone would think it's a regular DS just because there were already so many other names for the DS Well, there are a lot of people who think it is the DS I know there are tons of them and I'm saying by calling it the DS 5 It wouldn't have been any different there would probably actually be even more people who think it's just a new DS It is built like a DS but they could have called it something else I mean, I'm not saying that it I mean, I'm I'm not complaining about the name 3ds. I'm fine with that I mean, you know, they had Game Boy Game Boy Color Game Boy Advance Game Boy micro Well, the thing with those like the design was radically different It was the 3ds is not radically different And I think that's another thing with Nintendo is that they're keeping it conservative now with their console designs Each each new thing looks a lot like the old one like I'm sure the Wii U Branded Wii remotes will look exactly like yeah, they're like two consoles that are very similar and then there's a big jump Right, but it still looks similar in the GameCube the Nintendo and the Super Nintendo and then they just jump to the next set of Big differences in 10 to 64 Right Well, another but another thing like about the 3ds is that the DS the original DS looked one specific way and the DS light looked radically different DS I didn't really look that much different and the DS I was just or the DS I XL was just a massive DS I and Then the 3ds doesn't really really what a 3ds looks like is a DS I but with a wide screen Yeah, I wonder who names these I know I don't know what hey Shiggy what we got. Well, what are you drinking a blog light? We'll call it the Nintendo DS Why Super Bowl commercial So well, I guess what do you guys think of the pro controller? I'm I'm Yeah, I mean it's there. It's okay. It's not like something that's gonna make or break. I'm not excited To this guy on even our right here, he was also complaining about like that Whether or not he wants to play with you because of the game cat Right. I had to tell him about the pro controller. I'm not sure if you knew that but they need to advertise Pretty good. If you don't want to use the game pass, it is best to use the pro controller. Yeah What happens to my boy? I don't know. It's sort of getting lower Yeah, but that's fine. I can still hear you just fine. Well, what I think the pro controller really is It's exactly what everyone thinks it is It's a way for them to say look if you don't like the game pad We also have this thing but the problem with it is that they're not saying look we also have this thing They're just like we you here's the game pad If they they never advertise a pro controller They should and during the press thing they should have still been saying like and you know Here's our pro controller. Look at this and Yeah That's just a none other problem that they're having and again. It's two months till release I wouldn't be surprised if they did kick it up and kick it up a notch By November 18, but it's definitely something that they need to do My only problem with the crap the classic controller on the way was that the control sticks We're on the same axis, but it was hard to like really Get them like the ps3 controller for example it has both control sticks down below, but I have no trouble reaching for the Main control stick. Well, yeah, they were bigger right, but the classic controller. It's really never bought it It's difficult and it's awkward to use and I don't think that the Wii U is gonna be that the pro controller Is really gonna be any different than that except that the control sticks are up above the rest of the buttons I don't like that. I'm gonna have to use The regular analog stick up above and then have to go down below for the face buttons I think that's just as bad a decision as making the classic controller so awkward It's not a problem actually with the control stick up. It's not Yeah, it feels pretty natural Even to have the face buttons down below to reach for Yeah, it works pretty well, it doesn't it doesn't feel awkward it feels normal. That's good. That's definitely good But then I used it After I played it with Rayman legends. I played it with Tekken Tags tournament and that just felt really off Yeah, I Was something off about the controller guys guys Yeah, let's move on to software guys All right We'll never let go okay, I'm actually just gonna let go and let you sink down into the ocean die Let's face it. There is room for two on that piece of wood I don't know. Not the point of this. We're not talking about titanic. We're talking about Don't be a little bitch Okay software guys. What do you guys think about new Super Mario Bros? You I think it it's gonna change us lazy What? It looks really lazy. I Disagree. I don't think it looks lazy. I think it's ups and downs I I think that keeping new Super Mario Bros as a franchise Is lazy the thing is that the biggest difference between new Super Mario Bros and You know the original series of what Mario was, you know Mario Mario 2 3 world is that new Super Mario Bros is a cash cow I don't think they're putting as much thought and effort and creative It is but the like Mario galaxy and like galaxy even galaxy 2 when they just took galaxies engine and made different levels Both of them were still very creative titles and I think by you know making four new Super Mario Bros game the first one That was great. The second one Mario Wii. That was fine, you know But by the time it gets to two and I hated I hated the second one in the same year By the time they get the second one it was more of two and in the same year brother was all trying to kill me So I just kind of got sick the game Um, I think that there was just frustrating at times. Yeah, I don't think Mario's love for co-op That's just me. Well, I think with Mario you though One big improvement in the co-op is the asymmetric gameplay with The co-op speed runs. I think that's gonna be great and boost mode. Yeah, I I think that's good But I think yes, I did damn it guys. This is topic for Oh, okay, this is software. This is tough. We'll get to it later. Yeah Later But I I think new super mario's you it it looks different It really does I don't think it looks any different really. I think they're taking more inspiration in the backgrounds Um from those new super mario from super mario world But I don't think that the gameplay really looks There are new modes and that's great But I think the core of what it is is exactly what new super mario bros has always been and that's where I think That's where I think they're getting lazy. I think the super mario bros squirrel transformation They should have just brought the cape back Nothing everything else is everything else is new super mario world like all those slanted rocks in the background and the United world map They should have just brought the cape back. I don't know why they didn't really Um, okay, it's the fourth entry in the new super mario bros series. Okay, so super mario world was the fourth entry But mario regardless. I think that it's still I think that mario new super mario should be Um, I think the bigger problem with new super mario brothers you is that It doesn't look very different from new super mario brothers. We It doesn't exact show The difference between the we and the we you very well exactly That boost mode but I think that the really the only problem with new super mario bros as a series is that They're trying to be creative with something that's genuinely not creative instead of Keeping new super mario bros separate as a cash cow that they just put out every year And then and then putting the creative force into other mario titles I think that what they should do is divide them and make a clear distinction between new super mario bros Which they can keep doing because I mean nintendo's got a lot of money, but i'm sure they will always want more and if the we you isn't a huge success Then they would need to rely on more mario games to Keep them afloat, but what really like They should be putting this creative effort that they're Trying and failing to put into new super mario bros into separate mario games like super mario bros 4 Or another 3d title and it doesn't look right now that like they're doing that but Like the thing is also with the new super mario bros series I don't think they're milking it as nearly as much as people say they are because Uh, scabbard storage just came out last year and people are already wanting the new zelda But they announced a new super mario bros game this year and they're saying they're milking it They announced two new super mario bros games That's the difference is that it's two new super mario bros games in the same year and You know, they're both new super mario bros The thing with two it looked new super mario bros two it looked like it was going to be A change in the formula. It was gonna be something new The really sad thing is that it was more of the same the coin craziness I know and the really sad thing is that they clearly were they were working on it for two or three years So clearly they were putting a lot of their best efforts into it when realistically They just moved the engine over and made it 3d and designed new levels And so the sad thing to think about is that all that two years of thought The result was coins Just coins everywhere well Also with new super mario bros two the entire team was a bunch of Juniors they had never made a mario game before in all the senior That's right. I I had forgotten about that. That's right. I think it's going to be a lot better than no, I completely agree Mario they kind of just made both teams make a 3d platform or like galaxy Well, the 3d the 3d games are built by a different team. I think Well, yeah, this thing they could have combined For an awesome Wii U So like the state that 3d games don't sell marginably as well Yeah Because they need a juggernaut a launch and new super mario bros is the juggernaut they need but I think that by by Everything they've done with new super mario bros that it's not nearly the juggernaut it was I think for example if If they had if they had a new title that looked as innovative as super mario galaxy did I think that would be look a lot better for wii u than super mario galaxy at launch would have for wii or Not that super mario galaxy at launch was for wii, but I think I think That that that a new 3d that a new innovative innovative 3d mario title at wii u launch is would look better for them than new super mario bros u does Except the casual gamer because likes to buy new super mario bros games That's true Because how many people bought like the wii version like 24 million or something And it's saying about That's a lot of I believe that the the amount of people that bought new super mario bros wii was twice the amount that bought Both mario galaxy one and two. Wow. Yeah And the gs one is the best selling game in the whole library, so All right. Well, we can't spend all this time just talking about new super mario bros This is a wii u podcast. So let's uh, I mean there are tons of other games. There's pikmin There's wonderful 101. There's bayonetta 2. What do you guys let's let's talk about pikmin for a little bit It looks like I'm really excited for pikmin. I pikmin is one of my favorite gamecube games and I can't wait for the third I mean, I never really got into pikmin. I can see the appeal, but It's just not for me. What it is is like a really weird rts game and I really like that I've yet to play any pikmin game. I'm just gonna be waiting eight years for a pikmin season I I think that this is going to be worth it though to see the pikmin world in 1080p I mean those graphics that we saw displayed in the trailer and everything. It's beautiful. It looks Just brilliant The first one in the second one really pushed the gamecube to its graphical limits And I think that the third is really going to push the wii u as well and I it i'm just very excited It's the colors and everything It's it just looks incredible I just want to say it would have been awesome if the entire game was in claymation Yeah, I I disagree It would be really cool Well, no, you know like everything in the game was just claymation the first one was not It would take forever to make but it would be awesome It was and I think I think that it's a good way that would actually be pretty cool Yeah, no, I I think that the game looks better Without claymation, but I I like the claymation on the covers and everything and in the game's art But I don't I don't I don't think I'd actually like it in the game itself Who here has played uh the port? Of pikmin no, I've never played pikmin so Jackson get out the first one I know i'm gonna i'm gonna pick it up eventually No, no original pikmin listen Jackson If you haven't if you don't have anything to contribute other than I haven't played it for the second time You're not supposed to talk That really hits home That really hits home I'll get you a lollipop jack Thanks, brian Brian's my favorite. Okay. Anyway back to pikmin Keep talking about pikmin. I'll just go crawl into a corner until you guys are done. Yeah, go cry I I did play pikmin three though. Um, it's different Software impressions is for later though Um, another whether it's for better or worse I didn't play it long enough to get it overall. I played for like 10 15 minutes Right, but this is this is software impressions though. This is later. Um I'm just saying but from what I saw it looks really fun. That's good It looks really good. I love some of the changes I saw in the new pikmin and how they're used That's terrific. Um, so what other sorts of games are you hoping will come to we you in the future? everyone Well, obviously zelda metroid all that good stuff right top of my list. Yeah zelda metroid I'm I'm also really looking forward to fire emblem. I think that on we you that's going to be incredible And uh, yeah, I'm sure they'll I'm sure they'll do it eventually. It's just Probably going to be a while, but still I think it's going to look great and um I'm really hoping for f zero to make some sort of return behind the land I think I think it's perfectly suited for we you with the incredible frame rate and everything On that okay Uh, so how about sing party guys? Oh, yeah, I cannot wait for that I can't wait to play that. You know actually the trailer for sing party Hey, that's the first time I'd ever heard call me man. This is crazy Um, so what do you guys think about the wonderful 101? I'm still tempted to call that project p100 I know it's going to take a while for me to adjust, but it looks awesome I I think that I know more likely to buy that than I am to buy skylanders giants But I think it looks incredible. I think both of those games look fantastic and I'd love to play them But I think realistically I'm just never going to end up actually getting around to getting them Well the wonderful 101 it looks like one of those games that would be vastly dropped in price after a couple months Yeah, and but I still think it's going to be an incredible game. I think that it's going to Be a huge flop I don't think I don't think it's going to be bad Because like all my friends I've talked to about the Wii U have said Project p100 or wonderful 101 is the game that looks the best so far Really? It really does. I think so far Pikmin 3 and Rayman Legends look The best Rayman Legends I haven't played Origins actually and I should and I'm going to before I get legends But I still think that it's that for those who have played Origins It's going to be It's going to blow so many titles out of the water. I think platforming actually I think that looks like the better game out of Rayman and Mario U Legends is pretty good. I'll give you that and 007 legends guys actually speaking of legends That was a big surprise that that they showed off in new york. What do you guys Any of you guys excited for 007 legends? Uh, I'm more excited for bayonetta 2 I have never played the original piano Yes, a lot of people have been sending death threats to platinum games How could you say that? Boycotting the Wii U Nintendo is the one publishing this game, right? And Nintendo is publishing this game Dude, not Wii U It's too loud No, Nintendo is publishing the game. So it's never going to be ported It wouldn't even exist if Nintendo hadn't funded it. These people are idiots Yeah, so people don't get it So there's no way it's ever going to come to another system and it's not platinum's fault They should be happy that they're getting bayonetta 2 in the first place Um That said I think bayonetta 2 could be a huge thing You know, Michael Pachter has actually said that that bayonetta fans will buy a Wii U just for bayonetta Well, everything Michael Pachter says turns out to be false That's not true at all. He supported he thought that we the Vita was going to be a huge success And that didn't has not true A lot of what this says actually does end up being right I respect him very much and I think he gets a lot of crap that he does not deserve I think that he is constantly I think that he is constantly he really gets crap because of the fan base It really is and it's And everything he says and even when he explains himself, it's perfectly logical But people don't want to listen to logic. They just want to listen to what his final verdict is And then say no, you're wrong I disagree with you and that makes you wrong and i'm gonna hate you for it Except he's wrong a lot He's right When it comes to the Wii U, when it comes to Nintendo, he's off to the wrong But also he was right about E3 being boring, but it was that's very true But you know, he he's recently gone back and said I think the Wii U is going to be a huge success And that's proven to be true GameStop has already sold out of the deluxe bundle and their basic Are they just purposely limiting supply? I heard they sold out. Um, I've heard both but it's also been reported By a lot of people that it's actually sold out And I got the last one, yeah It didn't happen when I went to pre-order I don't have the Wii U yet So the deluxe bundle is already sold out from the pre-orders and basic pre-orders are dwindling fast So he's right now that the Wii U is going to be a success and But it does go back on what he said in the past and But he was what changed his mind wasn't that he saw GameStop's pre-orders and then he was like, oh better change my mind He saw Nintendo's press event on the 13th and realized they know what they're doing They've They've got this all planned out and they're doing a good job of it And then he turned out to be right When as evidenced by the pre-orders Coming in so fast uh-huh Coming in Yeah word Honestly, I I I was considering buying three Wii U's and then selling two on ebay That's not a bad idea I I have a cousin who did exactly that for the Wii and he sold it on ebay for about 500 dollars and people wow I'm doing that. I'm the Nintendo releases a system. Yeah Yeah, you can see that a lot on ebay when a new comes along I know Because the Wii wasn't oh my god. The Wii was sold out for a long time Like backorder they were maybe a two year or something like that Yeah, I had a buy one on ebay for like 300 bucks Anyway, though, um, what do you guys think about lego city undercover? That looks fun. It looks like a lot. That looks so good. I like lego games. I generally don't like nintendo games But there's something about this game It speaks to me. Did you see I think right you just said nintendo games. You said nintendo games You mean like a lego, right? Did I say the nintendo? Yeah. Yeah. I meant lego. Why would it's a nintendo discussion? Right. They're commenting as you speak right now, Brian. Um, but no, I think lego city undercover looks great I'm probably again not gonna end up buying it, but it looks really fun. I would like it Yeah, and uh, mingigaden we've got project cars It looks like it's filled with so much childhood wonder and fun It does. It looks like it's gonna be just so It looks like it's just gonna be funny Honestly, you're gonna Buy you're gonna feel like a little kid again right They have the awkward of time Get an item sound effect in it Really? Yeah, and um, Mario pipe That's great Well, it's being published by nintendo. So Baby, I have the rights to it. Um, what do you guys think of um Oh shoot, I had it like right in my mind Oh, well, right in my mouth zombie you Uh, sure zombie you that wasn't it. It looks fine. I'm I'm yeah, I'm spec Not zombie you I just like to go out and say that it looks completely unappealing and I don't like it. Absolutely I was looking for and more to kill a freaks. I was looking. Yeah, I was looking for It's the red steel of the we you You're gonna tell me that zombie you too is gonna blow my mind was red steel bad. I've heard good things about That's the first Second one's good. Oh, oh, maybe I'm just hearing good things about red steel too though. I I have I have a bunch of games that I bought because I found you. Oh, I have red steel the original Don't play it Right ship is in my house. I'll tell you if it's bad or good and whether I'm not I'll ship it back Well, anyway, um, it because they were showing it off like the big hardcore title and it wasn't that's that's too bad Wasn't that also a ubi soft game? Yeah, it was also soft. Oh, no You know what I'm very angry about Sonic and all squares racing transformed. I love this first thing. I played that game. I mean, I'm gonna save this for four But it's coming out. I love to know the thing is it's coming out november 20th Day I pre-ordered it and it's coming out the two days after the week That I'm just so angry about that Nintendo Land Yeah, let's talk about nintendo land It has huge potential I agree. Did you play again? Let's see. I played a bunch. I played the mario chase. I played pickman battle I played balloon fight. I played Metroid battle and Is there anything else? There's I believe that was it There's a star throwing game. Did you play that? Oh, yeah Which one? Takamaru's ninja castle. Oh, no. No, they didn't have that. Oh, that's too bad Oh I didn't play it. I saw a bunch of people play it though and it looked okay Um, I got to play battle quest. It looks quite fun battle quest. I am envious Yeah, battle quest and uh Metroid blast so far looked like the best game, but we've also got I don't know. It wasn't we also have a Battle quest or Metroid blast Metroid blast was not good. No, that's too bad. No Um, how is the balloon fighter balloon fight game? That was a lot of fun. I really had a blast with that Good. Is it has is it just balloon fight or um Kind of I mean it's balloon trip. It's not balloon fight in a long time. It was just joust with balloons, right? No balloon balloon trip is different from balloon fight the original NES game is called balloon fight But there's a mode in it called balloon trip where you're just avoiding objects and flying with your balloons That's what balloon trip breeze in nintendo land is it's not the original balloon fight where you Have other fighters and try to pop their balloons if you trying to avoid Spikes and fish, etc While you're going on an eternal sort of plane Forward and you're basically just trying to see how far you can get that's what balloon trip breeze in nintendo land is People often think it's going to be a fighting game because of balloon fight But it's balloon trip breeze not balloon fight breeze Balloon fight sounds like it'd be such a lame fighting game. I know It should make a fighting game based on balloon fight. I want a gritty balloon fight reboot guys You thought they were adorable, but they're Shoot down enemies you shoot their balloons There are a few more um fractions though that we're not That we're not playable on like any sort of floor. They've got uh animal crossing swede day. There's yoshi's fruit cart octopus dance Um, and I think one more I'm wrong Octopus dance is based on the octopus game and watch game and I don't know what it is Yoshi's fruit cart and octopus really? Oh captain falcons twister race rated r Twister race guys Like I'm just gonna play it in the middle of the game of schoolgirl pop stuff tentacles everywhere And but anyway, uh captain falcons twister race yoshi's fruit cart and octopus dance we know nothing about these besides the franchises that they're based on and I think that at least captain falcons twister race Is pretty exciting just because it's f zero and we haven't heard anything of f zero in a long time The most recent f zero anything we got we're just trophies in smash bros brawl Wait, are there um bar go lines on this? Are there what? hamburger lines Don't know what that is Uh, because they didn't announce f zero yet. Did they yeah, uh, no they have not announced any f zero No, there's no f zero confirmed for anything at all. Oh, well, no they confirmed an f zero minigame But yeah, oh, yeah, no there is it's captain falcons twister race is what it's called Um, and you can see they are they dead? Yeah, yeah No, they didn't did they They showed off all the attractions in the icons and you could tell There were the 12 attractions you could tell what franchises they were based on just given the icons But they didn't actually show captain falcons twister race. Did they Really? Okay, well i'm wrong I don't know Also, I think there is huge potential on nintendo land for dlc. I agree completely agree. They can make new uh attractions and then Download them and yeah, it's what else are you gonna get from nintendo land? Well, they've got we could have we're gonna get you could have something involving rob. You've got bayonetta theme park Yeah, bayonetta smash by this four guys nah But but you know, okay, they're coming for you mother. You've got something involving rob. You've got there's no pokemon stuff You're nothing involving curbie in nintendo land. There's a lot of stuff they can do drugs smuggling ring Open the door. Yeah, there are a lot of police What's next? Um, uh, that's really about it for how about all those games that they're kind of porting over darksiders 2 assassin's 3 3 I hate the fact that the majority of the third party lineup For the wii u is just ports of games that everyone already owns Yeah I mean, it's good. It's good in a sense that if you don't already For example, I've never played Frankly, I'm probably not going to but if I do it will be the wii u version because it's clearly so much better But it's not something that's good. It's not enough to spark interest in the console What's good for example is black ops 2 which isn't out yet Nobody has it and so when it comes out, then people will have the option of getting wii u before the wii u launches Will it that'll be out before the wii u launches. I thought it came out on the 30th. No it comes out Oh November 13th. It's not 12 days before it launches. I think it's first. It's on the 13th of the eight. Oh, it is Yeah seven days No, you're right though with something like call of duty No, nobody's gonna get it for the wii u even just because of that one week I think some people will Okay, obviously some people will but it will be nothing like the playstation or xbox copies sold Yeah Because black ops is like that's still in the top 2010. I think right, you know what we got you know guys Call of duty game might do better I'm not so sure parents will buy their kids We don't know Idea that there are little kids playing call of duty though. That's just Disgusting call of duty. That is like the epitome of what I hate in the game industry I I don't like call of duty at all I hate call of duty just because there are little kids who play it just because there are parents who say Yeah, you can have this But that's not what we're talking. You know what what games we've completely ignored here Epic mickey 2 game in wario um, yeah, we've got um monster hunter monster hunter Rabbids land, but rabbit Yeah, there's scribble knots I'd just like to say that we barely know anything about a lot of those games And yeah, well monster hunter is just a port of monster hunter Game wario it's clear that that's going to be another wario where title though. Um, yeah Wario where would work really well with the game pad Yeah, I yeah, it would but I mean it's not really going to be any different They did not They had it where I was under wraps. It doesn't really seem like an all too interesting game I pretty much looked at it and was like no no. It's just another wario game wario where is Not really been interesting lately. The first few were great But yeah, by the time they got later It's just more the same and they have these new gimmicks, but that's all they are. It's gimmicks. Yeah Like diy that actually had huge potential But all it was was you making your own games. There were like five mini games that you could play Not on your own if it was like a full wario where title and then it also had a diy section That would be fantastic Yeah You actually played Wario I like the game boy advanced one. It's fun. Mm-hmm. Is that the one that came on the ambassador for 3d yet? Yeah I'll try I only played a bit of it. Um, it's the very first wario war game and it was a good way to start What I like best about wario where really is the characters I think the characters really drive the game not the mini games It's fun just to see these guys, you know interacting With each other like dribble and spits and Dr. Cry goer. I always love seeing what crazy new thing he's up to and it's never anything really like It's never like a plot or anything, but it's just kind of fun, you know It's never anything that would make me buy the game, but it's like when I do buy the game It's nice to see So I kind of want to jump back here Back to the hardware Because nintendo revealed something called nintendo tv Nintendo tv very interesting software It's yeah, it's new software. So it's But it's it's it's a it's a Part of the core experience of we you it's software, but it's integrated so closely Nintendo tv though is so interesting because It's not just a system on which you can watch something from Hulu and then you can go over to netflix and watch something you watch it all on nintendo tv The difference is it draws these videos from different sources It's not that you use it and then go to a different medium. It's that it's all right there on that one medium It's it's there. Yeah, if you log in on you know netflix and hulu and amazon and tivo And set it up with your we you you've got it all right on the we you it's not that you have to Like on the playstation if you go if you have hulu plus and netflix installed There are two different app like applications that you have to go to to see what's up But on nintendo tv, it's all right there. The gamepad uses it really well. Yeah, the gamepad is great and what is What I initially thought was kind of lame, but you know it was there Was the whole you know keeping up with the moments on what's happening, you know, uh, how Updates you on what's going on and you can share it on facebook and you can take part of polls I originally thought whatever But then I realized the casual market is going to eat it up So quickly. Yeah, they're going to love it There are a lot of people out there who like update their facebook status is based on what's happening in football game Like my mom for example, if she had if she had a we you And she would be in heaven Oh, I'm happy to talk over lunch Yeah I want some photo of it It was a guy who actually did that on my facebook page. He took a giant and he uploaded it and he was holding it in his hand Oh And this one guy commented Why are you holding that in your hand and he's like because it's huge Naturally need a lot of toilet paper. This is a nintendo chat guys. So we've we've exhausted the software chat really Are there any other games that we're kind of missing? That's about it Getting to game wario. That was sort of like the bottom of the barrel epic micky 2 Oh, that's right. I mentioned epic micky 2, but we never actually discussed it. I'm excited for that Um, yeah, I still need to go and finish the first epic micky Um So far beyond was mediocre So i'm not sure how much i'm looking forward to the second one so far beyond Collop play it doesn't look very different. Yeah, the 3ds one actually I'm looking forward to as well because it's a 2d thing and it's very different from the original epic micky. So that's it's nice So what games is everyone anticipating? We already talked about fire emblem and a new f0 game Mario paint. Oh, that would be a lot of fun That's a that's you know, that's a really good point. Um One thing that i'm really hoping for is another beautiful joe game I loved beautiful joe on gamecube and i really i hope that they have a wii u Beautiful joe 3 Could be really cool the thing is that the person who made beautiful joe Is now working on platinum and oh really have come Oh, I didn't know that beautiful. I knew that there was some sort of problem Made a new okami after clover got disbanded. So it's within the realm of possibility But it's probably not going to be anywhere. Speaking of which, it's just not going to be you It was the deki camea right and you know, actually that that makes sense Wonderful 101 looks like it a lot of the character designs took inspiration from the same sort of thing the beautiful joe did Yeah, it is the deki camea. Yeah Well, it's still just like why bayonetta kind of looks like devil may cry the deki camea. I can still get my hopes up um What other sort of stuff do you guys hope for? starfox adventures to oh that would be starfox starfox I think would be great as a whole on uh, we use starfox I want starfox adventures to adventures. I don't care how much the fan base with this. I love Camelot and talked about bringing back donkey con 64 and I want to see that donkey con 64 would be very great. Um Uh What I want to see is a game that takes full advantage of the gamepad not for gyroscope gimmicks or Some other bullshit like zombie u is doing right now, but To show how you can make a traditional game without destroying a formula just with how convenient Item selection would be on the gamepad and that's zelda. That's darksiders. That's zelda right there Right. Yeah, that's pikmin. That's and there are a lot of things like the perfect game for the gamepad because you can just put the Everything onto The gamepad and it'll be a constant view and you don't have to pause the game or anything in order to do it Or initiate right some sort of pop up menu in order to switch your items You know, there's always talk about majora's mask 3d. I don't care about that. I want to see majora's mask on wii u I think that'd be incredible that that family trailer. I think that's so much more exciting than majora's mask 3d I look in hd the world of terminal It's very different from the other zelda worlds and It would look incredible. He said you I'm sure all of you saw that hoax trailer that was came around. Yeah, three times That looked great That was incredible. I knew it was fake. That was real. It was it was I think I was praying everyone Yeah, um But it was incredible. That was like the perfect visual style for that game. It really was. Yes, it was it just blew me away and I Something like that is what I want from majora's mask. I would rather wait 10 years and get something like that from majora's mask Then wait one year and get majora's mask on 3d s You could just play the n64 version over and over again Yeah, but it's nothing like an hd majora's mask with that. Yeah type of graphical Caliber and then you just throw the inventory on the game pad. Yeah, and and that'd be awesome That's great, especially for map for map selection. You can do like you can do l and r to just switch between masks and regular items and Like the map or whatever plus you can just Yeah It's like you're fading out and then it sounds like someone's master bank Yeah I just hear like someone fade out and then I feel like All right People are going to complain if there's no camera control That's why we have the right. Oh, yeah, that's why you have the second stick The l and r buttons are right. Yeah for just using The items because all you need to do to switch the screens on the touch screen is just slide your finger Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah, camera control is a is a big problem, but Yeah Although it's not unlike Zelda games in the past have not had any good camera control. There still hasn't been one that you know really takes advantage of manipulating the camera It's been right when waker did but You know skyward sword twilight princess the whole time I played it I was just so angry that I couldn't Use the c button and or hold the c button and just move the nunchucks control stick to change the camera angle It was really pain. It's oh did it. No, that's good Well, also the thing is with uh, super mario sunshine my memory is a little fuzzy, but uh, you have free control of the camera in that game, right? Yeah, I don't remember. Yeah, and that provided a few issues At least for me. Actually it was more better than no control setting itself, which caused you to miss some jumps Yeah, I think camera is just something that really nobody's ever gonna find a great solution um No, you're right about the camera though for Zelda and you can slide between the two item screens Still point is you got the masks on one item screen and then everything else on the other item screen Switch between the two somehow And then you could do like a cool ar thing where you get to wear the mask Oh god You know nintendo would go for that. You know, they would they totally would and it would be awesome It'd be like the zombie you'd nomify yourself Go on by yourself Yeah That would be really awesome But I think they would cut your speedy to find yourself. Yeah, you have you have to beat the game or do that No, you just never get to do it because you're not a badass Um, anyway though back back to the topic on hand Um other Wii U games Do any of you guys have anything in particular that you're really like dying to see Happen or dying to see come back even I think some metroid would be cool Yeah, I could use the game. We're out game pad. Well a 2d metroid also I think would be a lot of fun We haven't seen one of those like really improper form in a while since metroid fusion actually And I think uh, I think it would be a refreshing Take on the series again to go back to that instead of to have another prime style one I love like the the whole prime style, but it would be nice to have another 2d one, you know You don't know what we need on the Wii U Metal gear Yes, please I think if I'm metal gear on the Wii U that's just insta buy especially ground even i'm already buying it Zeros You know what? I'm just very disappointed will never ever happen Is final fantasy 7 remake on the Wii U and it will never happen square That's not gonna sell anyone here as well what they would do No, I don't want final fantasy remakes because they'll just ruin it in one way or another It won't be the final fantasy game. It'll be better than final fantasy They remade ocarina time and we loved it. Yeah, I mean that was This isn't square we're talking about square awful. I think square remade final fantasy 3 and 4 just fine on the ds Have you played the final fantasy seven spin-offs? They're spin-offs those aren't remakes I had no problem with uh crisis 4 all they need to do is take the story of the old one and just Slap some new graphics on it and you're good to go keep the story The final fantasy 13 versus combat But it's it's never gonna happen though because square recently I don't remember when I'd obviously this is skype. So I don't have the source Um, but they said that they're never gonna remake final fantasy 7 until they make a game an original game That was better than final fantasy 7 and Square Yeah, and and in its current state square is not going to do anything better than um Then the PlayStation days so It's just a little tidbit kingdom hearts or the world ends with you on the world ends with you would be great well That square thought the iphone needed the world ends with you so Yeah The world ends with you just needs to screens. I can't really see it working Well on it once I mean, I know I've heard it works pretty well and it's good on the iphone, but I haven't heard anything about the iphone version. I'm just not I do not care about ios market games I really don't either ryan the sequel for the world ends with you is going to be exclusive to ios Oh, it is because because square hates us Yeah, come on. So it's half-life three actually No, it's because square likes money and the ios is like arguably the most popular video game platform there is Which is kind of sad. Yeah. Yeah, it is very sad, but I would have called it a video game platform That's because the games are so cheap there Um, because like every everybody has an iphone Exactly, it's ubiquitous. Matthew. No, Matthew. I'm kind of curious about your opinion on this, but how do you feel about rhythm thief on ios? I paid 30 dollars For a great game and now it's free They just gave you the finger People should be more upset about this than bayonet a tubing wheel Listen, well bayonet a two is a blockbuster as great as i'm sure rhythm thief is it's not exactly a heavy hitter in terms of sales It's not hopefully in ships You guys Back to we you though, you know what I think would be incredible on the gamepad Have any of you ever heard of a ps3 game called 3d dot game heroes? Oh, yeah, I played that that was fun I think that would be perfect for the we you especially because of the way you customize your character Um, like I made a full 3d model of link in that based on his nes sprites from the very first legend zelda And it looks great and I play as I just play as link in this world, but um The character editor on the ps3 took forever because Just going with all the buttons. It was just awful and so tedious, but gamepad would work it perfectly And it's not even a question of exclusivity because it was published by atlas And atlas has no problem with nintendo So I think I'm really hoping I'm crossing my fingers for some sort of port or sequel or something for that Well, like also building off that customization idea. There's a ton of mmo's out there Yeah, that would work great with the gamepad. I think that would also works really well with the gamepad Completely agreed Yeah, um Diablo just tap tap tap custom robo too. That's not an mmo, but it's I didn't you know, but custom robo It could work well a lot of a lot of blizzard games would work well Um, and what I actually would love to see another another game is excite truck It was it was surprisingly underrated for being a first party. We launched title and it was very good It wasn't you know something worth Huge amounts of money being poured into every year, but it was a really fun game And I'd like to see a sequel and it was photo realistic too, which is perfect perfectly suited for the week Yeah I don't think I I want to kid a gris on Wii U. Kid a gris on Wii U would be great It wouldn't be done by Sakurai, but I really could not care less I think I I think Sakurai did a great job with we just really need to be able to play our 3ds games Yeah Like they had the super gameboy for super nintendo and they had the gameboy player for gamecube There's a NES got nothing and 64 got nothing. We got nothing Wii U comes along and now is the time to do another it's the odd generation thing. It's the even numbered Nintendo console. So why not? Um, I do like the even numbered ones a lot more You see um the problem with this is that It's a big different story between playing a low resolution 3d game Yeah, it's gonna look really bad on Wii U. High resolution sprite game on A big tv. Yeah Yeah And yoshi's story actually we haven't seen a good a new yoshi game in a long time I think yoshi's story would be a yoshi's story too that I think would be look great on Wii U Or yoshi's island Just yoshi's island not so much because um, but yeah yoshi series in general I think I think that the storybook format works for Wii U better than Than yoshi's islands like map system because yoshi's island the original was on the super nintendo and that was That was 2d and yoshi's island ds also 2d yoshi's story though It was built for nintendo 64 which handles 3d graphics And it did 3d really well with the storybook and the way the enemies and everything were designed and I think a sequel For Wii U would be great. I think if they did it for I think yoshi's island um a 2d art style could work great on Wii U, but In general, I think the way both games are built in in contrast to one to one another I think yoshi's story is a better choice. I don't care for yoshi's story Get out. That's good. That's good Brian I've played yoshi games before. I just can't shit into it I I can see that I didn't I couldn't really get to into yoshi's island ds very much, but I loved the original yoshi's island I was not really a platformer back so At least not 2d platformer, but I what I really liked about the yoshi platformers um As opposed to you know a generic Not even generic necessary, but like mario or sonic or anything like that is that you could Just launch exit things all the way across the screen It was it was really cool, and it's a something that no other platformer has really done Everything else is always involved like jumping or speed or punching things, but yoshi throws things at people That was just cool The only thing I've ever seen in a 2d platformer kind of 2d That has you aimed is Kirby 64 with the flaming arrow. Oh, that was really cool Yeah, Kirby 64 speaking of Kirby Uh, you know they hadn't returned to dreamland on we and I was disappointed that you couldn't Combine powers again. I think if they made a new Kirby game It should if they have if they make a new Kirby game on Wii U. They've got to bring that back I don't know why they didn't and it was great What the combining powers? Yeah, that was great. Yeah, especially when you double the power by its own power Yeah Like you would get the fireball It's great. I really liked the white series too. That was really cool But you know, I'm not particularly excited to get it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did it in the same vein as Cutting you out, dude I can assure you that I am not doing something of that nature kind of Well, I'm a completely different now. How about pokemon snap to pokemon snap? Oh, not yet I just absolutely not this article. What god? Not as like a retail product, but like as an e-shop game. That'd be pretty fun I'm sorry. Everyone says pokemon snap is this great innovative flawless game and I just didn't like it It was on rails photography. It just wasn't fun What's poke mine? Well, you can wait The rest of us can talk about how great it is when you're on a train or a boat You're going forward and all you can do is really take pictures You can't go back Wondering what could have been on your camera Except you can replay the levels so You can go on the same trip twice too Um, but anyway pokemon snap 2 I think that uh, like I said in this this article that I just wrote yesterday It could be great with the gyro controls, of course optionally Um, but anything really where you aim Like the gyro control thing on Wii U is great because it could work exactly like Again, of course only if it's optional camera because it could work exactly like it did with ocarina of time 3d But at one which was fantastic when you're sitting at home But I often would play ocarina of time 3d in the car And it wasn't fun and so moving and turning in the car It would just assume that you're moving with the gyro scope. Now, obviously you're not going to be playing a Wii U in a car So it would work a lot better I didn't like the ocarina of time 3d gyro scope though when painting Like you know, I didn't like that either It was fun when you were like sitting in an office chair. Yeah, exactly I enjoyed it then You know the forest temple part or you have to shoot through the fire to some melt the switch Like the gyro scope would throw me off so much during that part I would have to regain well, that's why you can just turn the gyroscope on but you can turn off the gyroscope That's the whole point of it being optional I didn't know you could turn it off. I tried to find a place to turn it off And it never turned off you just press start Yeah, the options icon gyroscope Oh my god, I never saw the Oh, are you just learning this today? Yes, I am Hey, it could be worse. My friend didn't know you could crank up the 3d and resineval revelations To where it looks so good. You remember how you could crank it up? I didn't play revelations. Like you go up to the options and then you change it the 3d for more of the strong to vary I I thought that the game released a week ago. Oh, yeah in the demo. I remember that. I didn't get the game I never got the game either. I thought the game released A week after it really did And I went in and I wanted to get one of those game one of those copies that had the typo in a box And I specifically asked at game stop I specifically asked Do you have any copies left with the typo and he goes? Oh no, that was all sold out like the first day And I was just so disappointed and I said, okay Well, I I don't want it anymore and he was like really You just came to get the typo box and I was like, yeah You should have bought it. It's a good game. I didn't have I didn't have 40 dollars to spend and then not Resell several hundred years later. Is it collectible because I'm going to live several hundred years If you guys didn't know that bind it on ebay. Yeah, I'm sure I can You know though what I was trying to say when when my mic cut out was um I wouldn't be surprised if they I'm not like particularly itching for this But I wouldn't be surprised if they did it in the same vein as the new play control series that they did for the we But as an hd remaster series For a gamecube and we games They're gonna have gamecube games on the e-shop as hopefully everyone knows by now but their E-shop is a different topic. I can complain about that forever. You're cutting out My my skype hates this topic, I guess well, whatever I'm going to say it Oh god, Nate's wondering why no one's posting today We're doing a podcast mate. Yeah Someone needs to explain It's not gonna be me. I'm doing it. I'm doing that right now. Okay. Well, okay solid answer final question Are you gonna buy the Wii U at launch? Yes? Yes I actually put a full price preorder down just walk in the game stop. Why not show them my power up I don't know Well, frankly the only game that I actually want to get for it is pickman 3. Yeah, and that's not even coming out at launch day Yeah, that's it's not a launch title I don't think it was confirmed to be a launch title But I don't want to just buy It's confirmed not to be a launch title It's not coming to launch day Come out even yep late March Don't don't don't kill me. I've never played the first band. I know It's good. It's okay math either but it's good It's like bayonetta I mean, no, never mind. It's like bayonetta, but But in other words with bayonetta Crazy right? It's like I don't know. I'll track the hardcore. Okay. Can we do a quick what we playing real quick? Sure This is like an hour in 20 minutes. No, yeah No, it'll take like two minutes guy What's everyone playing guys Yeah, what are you playing? Okay, I am currently playing nothing Which is very sad school Is yeah evil with two essays and problems at some lots and lots of history homework Oh, come on. I have finals next week This school just started up for me again, too. And that's eating up a lot of my time. Yeah, okay You have finals next week. Have you been working? We've been playing video games studying. Yeah, go study bryan Go study bryan study for finals. That's why you have That's why you have what your board is broken now I actually do my work finals in my past with age Uh, but anyway, I I really want to be playing majora's mask right now because shamefully I've never actually done that I got to um the swamp temple right uh and then school started and I just haven't been able to boot it up since then um because I've been writing and and Homework and stuff. Yeah This is why you have to crash Yeah, but I procrastinate by pretending that I'm being productive And not just actually My procrastination is like, oh, I'm gonna have my books out and then be on the internet instead Instead of just fully embracing procrastination by just going off and doing videos You already are on this I started an hour late because I woke up just as you guys started Yeah, so I I'm working my way through xeno blade slowly, but surely uh, it's pretty fun. I don't even know the ending, but it's fun and Yeah, I I got Bowser's Incense story loaned to me from a friend. Oh nice. That's a good one So, yeah Origins before legends comes out. So that's what I'm not I'm trying to get through fortune stream, which by the way If anyone's listening and you haven't seen the zi recommends article get fortune stream now. It's amazing I'm just playing with them v Yeah, it's that fun Yeah, but it's gonna be cheaper the 3ds version even when I buy all the content It's free to play they cut out some parts Poor man, I think I'm pretty much asked if you wanted a free game and you said you put 30 dollars We know your pain I don't know your pain. Okay. We don't know. We don't actually Because no one here Probably know in America has risen to be except for you Oh America, but yeah, just no one has it I think we interrupted mass masturbation Oh, so that's where the sound is coming from Are we going are we going out of Gangnam style a bit? Well, why not? Sexy lady We'll have to wait for part two Yeah Yeah, that'll be in like two months except three months because I'm getting at launch day and I don't care if I have things to do on Monday Screw teachers. We use so much more important Yeah, real life I'll probably do what I did with pokemon black and white and just get it all out of the way of saturday Actually end up being responsible again speaking of actually a black and white that weekend I wrote an entire research paper on the saturday before they came out just so that I could spend the whole next day playing black and white And not worrying about a research paper Well, how about black and white too? Just real quick. Oh, that looks that looks okay. I'm probably not going to get at launch day I think I'm going to I'm less interested in pokemon. I'm going to go pre-order tomorrow and I'm going to go to get curvy Yeah, I'm getting curvy on Monday I don't look I I I don't like the newer pokemon games as much as I liked the old ones. I'll probably get them eventually Um, but probably not release day I don't like a lot of the aesthetics of black and white too I don't I just don't like the character The gameplay is as fun as ever and the story is a lot of all the champions, but I just don't like The way everything looks It's really all there is to it. I don't think that the new designs of anything are interesting Well, and also I I think it should have been a 3ds game. I think so too. I totally agree I think everyone's actually only the people who have the 3ds want it to be a 3ds game everyone else But making it a 3ds game was a 3ds game because they don't have it. Yeah, exactly Well, I mean that's what way forwarded with the adventure time game people were upset it was going to be on Ds, so they just made a separate 3ds version with 3d visuals, but they're the same game Well, but except the 3ds one is the limited edition Also, that's what sells systems you guys people would be mad if they don't have a 3ds to play black and white too It's been all the little kids who are really excited for pokemon would say mommy mommy buy me a 3ds for villains People people yeah, we're going to boycott and black and white 3ds if it didn't come out for it Like how they're doing the fan of the two right now Okay, but a lot more people would buy those people are already not going to buy it Yeah, they're not the boycott changes nothing. They weren't they're not going to buy it really yet Anyway, so what the people who were on the fence now have a reason to get the 3ds if black and white two were to come out for Again, that's how systems are sold I think it would be a better system seller if it was the first game in the generation I think so too, but still I mean it was a wasted opportunity It would be an even better system seller Screw generation six ruby and sapphire remakes would fly off the shelves Yes, they would that's what would have where are those? I don't know sapphire remix, but they're they're coming There's no way that they're not And hopefully they won't be ds games Hopefully nintendo realizes that By the time those come out watching calling they're going to reveal the ruby and sapphire remakes tomorrow to be ds exclusives Remakes ruby and sapphire remakes are going to be announced I'm bet i'm guessing one more released two maybe two or three years from now And it's probably gonna be 3ds exclusive if it comes that way. There's no way it would come four years after the the s's It's been it's been a year and a half No black and white came out two years ago and black and white two is coming out this year And then ruby and sapphire remakes are probably gonna come out And um, no black one and a half years No black and white two came out two years ago Black and white original came out march of my freshman year. Yeah. Yeah that one 3ds game rumble blacks Now it's september of my junior year in high school. It's a yeah rumble blast is what you're thinking That's not a pokemon game. It really isn't it's not a pokemon game even though it clearly has pokemon on the cover That's supposed to know What do you guys think about fire emblem away? GDI and zelda games aren't zelda games That's true nintendo 3ds cd i I would buy those. I would buy 3ds remakes My boy in 3d my boy My boy If they had a collection every a retail collection of all three games, I would buy that Even if they're terrible, I would just buy them a lot of people would I have a copy of where's the wall? Physical copy I actually have a physical battle it really would You would buy a golden third All right, so well, we hope you enjoyed this session of zelda informer's existential gaming roundtable. This has been So existential But that's where you go then what say names say names Oh, oh, yeah, I had no idea what you were doing. I thought you were gonna say like this has been fun This has been calling And other people who are clearly should we just go like your name order What who cares jackson Jared Collin Almost wasn't a guy brian again. Wait before we go brian. You're fired. Yeah. Oh, no Well, guess what I hire myself back because I outrank all and matthew signing off. You don't you enjoy Bluh, I hope you tune into don't worry. We'll be back You're fired Hope you tune into next one show The next month's podcast This is like 90 minutes. Oh, okay. Bye everybody. Bye. Bye