 Hi, how are you? I hope you're doing well. My name is Ndenya and welcome to SPM Bars. I learned kumainio ya umoja and I've come to look for Umoja's finest MCA, Mark. Mambo? Fiti sa nan, Ndenya. Kwa ji? Niko fiti ya lakini. Kupati me kwangumu? Kazi. Ni Kazi? Ya, but kila kitu na kwa gana time ya kena Indio Time Goda lakimi. Ame se mati tato me pangia ya. Chanyan zena, how's your day been? Mishinda jaleo? I'm Mishinda Fiti, just errands to the job. Mkutano hapa kule. Pia kukimbiza na na development. Ya. So mene gechi kakujwa, Mark, how's your day like, you're working days on MCA? Eh na dipe. Because we kitu na kwa gana categorized into two parts because like kwa gana at 20 sessions. So mende, Wednesday, Thursday. So mende na Friday ha tu kwa gani job. Mende is mainly na kwa gani ofisi. Eda nengie kwa ofisi kiasi. Ni udumio atu. So wale residents on ataka ile wanon wanili mo onane. Because kuna wala na takaga atlisa na kama onashia. Ishusa o personal na wewe. So mende miwkwanime dedike to day kwa oso. Ni le tunda rauka asubui. So mende tu ni kama dayangumta ni because nengie tu nkirauka. Tu ke kwa hao nengie kwa ofisi from around nine to around lunch hour. And then after lunch sasa ni kwa tumta. So nengi kwa kwa ofisi in tembe because mostly sita use gari yosi. Ta tokatun tembe ni kibonga bonga na atu. Ya. That is if ni kwa around because una pata pia. Nmekwambi atu de wheneze tazde isons kusabonga na committees. Ya. So and then mostly retreats etu the workshops the committee workshops. So happen to katazde evening. To maybe Sunday or Monday. Ya. Umetaja u kwa sana grau tembe na ata from your socials one can tell. Buon umedisai divo. Buona not most people ta pata yeshimi wa te grau na piga story na atu. But we endak patatun na mabuizu ako mechil. Eo familiarity mingi haile tangi kwa uzoe ano. No una jo pia uta dependi bile pia uta gauge. Kuna ele klaspia uta jiveka after nene. But iso mingi le tu ana culture shock. As in na sasa klas. Siju mehanzas. Siju kwa na kutulia. Siju na atrui na gani. Awa semu tulia. Na awnda atruo me ni mek. Mali niko. Atakama niwa kini chagu wa nili kwa pia I was doing well. Siyati this is my first job. First hustle. Na kama nili kwa niki kanao before a power and everything. Nothing changes. Because not your perception. I think once you are elected you should not let power get into your head. Because it messes you big time. What do you do to control that? Because it's very easy for power to get into your head kiburi na ingia. I think it's a choice. It's a choice that one makes. Because kama sa imi niko nikolaki have been elected twice. Ektoka 2017 to 2022. And then this term. So it depends. Na kama kuna mitu sasa mechaguli wa sa iimidili 2022. Sasa yasha kwa sta. So kwa shimu wa klas pia. So watua ground turn na kwa si watu pa say. But sasa, I think it's more to do with humility. Na pia weku jwa ma liumetoka. Na kukosa pia kuklasify how, how, to that. Wewe uko iwi ama. It's more of a personal choice. Wa jwa pia one has a decision whom your friends will be. Wewe kamaan denya uta decide. Wa le watu niku niki chil na. This time they are no longer my class. Nita chil na hawa ama yon deoklasia. So it's more of a personal decision. It's a more of a personal choice. Wewe tu kwa iwi wa. Siki tunneza fake. It's being you. What are some of the challenges you face? Juei yosa saku kukam tasa na? I wouldn't call them challenges per se, but yon kukawana jwa sasa, inakwa sasa ma shidamao bwendo na lete wa. Because mimi nikiwa easily accessible. Ta pata mtu ama fuku zwa shule. Me indiwa first because kama kwa elected leaders. I'm the first point of contact na watua ground. So mi ba do kuna hawa yangwa pa umo. Ta patatu mtu wa kosa school fees. Ame zunguka me kosa mi indiwa ta kujia. Mtu wa kuna matanga mi indiwa ta kujia. Atakini kosa kofisi. Anantresa di kohawu. Mtu wa kiwa na mtu mugon jwa. Yana mi zunguka mi indiwa ta kujia. So na ujuei kifkamali anaku kujia. He or she expects help from you. As in, I hope Zakesko kwa mca. Nakunom tuta ambia bede. Atami mi ma linikon mefiniika sita eza. So laika nashindu ahai. Ajee. Ajee. Mwishimi wa uta kosa ajee. So yundiwa. Yo challenge ya. Mwana inchi kwa eza kumik. Mwana inchi understand pia. At some point pia on eza lak. Umpada. So yei yei. Mi use mam. Ata mainly. Mi mi nambayangu eni nilkone kitu mi asimu. I've never changed it. Since I think I acquired the number in... When I used to sell movies in Tau. That was in around 2010, 2011. I still have it. And I pick random calls. Because siji ali weza wkona hida manini. But mine is either a simple yes or no. Whichever way you take it, that's up to you. But mi mwakumia sita eza. Ama nita hangali ama nita eza. So whichever way you take it, it's up to you. Because I'm human. I lack. Na pia. Sio last man ikusahidi apia. You can't be there for everyone. This is the second time you're serving. After Kukua MCA the first time. Bona this other time. Hau kuwai for MP ama another chair ingine. First, I'm still young. Because Saindon mengia 33. I was elected around 26, 27. I was the youngest. So it was my first shot. God akawa kumka ingia. Wait, Kukua MCA to 26. Hei. Hei. Hei, ni God. Bago kiyangali api, because you're ni God too. I ni God ni God. So I gave it my first shot. Your time, ni kai ingia. So now I'm 23. So if once you imagine this, the maki field, your politics, it's very hard for me to get employed by anyone. So if you do your math wrong, then you're out. The only thing you can do is continue doing your businesses and wait for another time to give it a shot. And I also didn't want to chew too much that I can't swallow. Also because unanit pure woji giji. I have people who tried and actually I was advising them against. It's too early. At least give it another time. But it's a wrong move. We can't get it wrong. We can't get it wrong. We can't get it wrong. And then it needs a lot of resources, especially campaign resources. So if you do your math wrong, you're not yet there. So the best thing is it's easier maintaining where you are than. And also I believe as I achieved what I intended as an MCA, because mimi nili kwa na visioni, nikiwa nili kwa na visioni kwa transformim tata. Better than I found it. Yuhu mokitambu nili kwa gana malami, nili kwa it's a posh estate. I don't know what's going on, but over the years we grew up in a dilapidated ma pero etu, kijanga ma goro, ma trashi, ma changa kwa ni. So we got drainage covered in soil and baropias. So during the last time at least I managed to rehabilitate some. But sasa nili kwa na sama, because if I was able to do that much being a first timer, then what will I do if I get back re-elected? Nasa sana kuna experience, I know this door, this door, this door gives this. Speaking on that, I'd like to know your most proudest accomplishment. Amak tumefa niwa se umueni wana feelingi, anyo, this one? Election and make proud most nizo baro. Because as we speak umueni na kwa ga, especially the old umueni na kwa ga divided into around 10 sections because we kona CD E F G H J K L M N P Q. Q. 13 And out of the 13 last time I was able to do 6 and up to now I've been able to get at least all of them have a budget if not completed, have a budget. So here it's transformation in a series because I believe even in years to come nita kwa remembered wata kwa kumukaroro by they did this. So but So here it's at least kujari buku kwa achive zile accomplishment ... ... kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa nazo, Kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa... Kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa... 2002 World Cup N worked for me and then byudge was Ronald, he was born in Brazil in two world cups, Pia Wutim ichezia balda, so when I got a nickname Ronald, and then came and embraced me as a kid. So Ronald was short in shape, I was in a role. So ichezia grau ilkwe ma topi, so he was chosen to be a black cotton. So, during the rains you couldn't play here. So, what happened? Sasa Ima decided I want to give it back to the community. Come back here and chill and see what is going on. I think maybe we can get 35. We have 1 for sure. So I think we can get professional footballers. I don't think we can hang boots because of their age. Maybe it's just a matter of we have it. But because we didn't have the infrastructure then na pata dena pia futbol kenya, aijaku wa embraced vile ya, because mimi ni mecheza na wachaza ji wengi wa kwa kwa premiere league akina moangi, akina odera used to play, ali kwa mbele hangu kido go akina aili we used to compete with them ya, watu wengi dando wa piwa piwa piwa so, speaking on futbol kido go to, nini ni, according to you, kwa zumecheza bol na jwa watu, mo na futbol ya kenya na struggle? futbol ya kenya na struggle jwa management management wako after themselves rather than the players because nifani sana watu watu hacheza aholi ya and then the prize money se jiko a few millions that after kijari buk calculate the expenses of the clubs doesn't make sense so i would say that the club size na participate too for pride ya, to kiko mbe to mecheza but futbol kenya na faitu mike 2 kama another any other professional kama doctorin because sports pay outside, we should embrace even even our neighboring countries, Uganda like Tanzania Tanzania has really done well in their uh sports, embracing sports atasisit na fata do the same so that because sikilam tu ana kwa game bariki wa kwa kwa books and then badot kisha angaliya job market yetu sikilam tuata mo nyana pita ana geti opportunity so why don't we enlarge the scope so that ata alu akuna talent to anezaan through sports and it's not only futbol ata basketball atanini if we pump in so much then and upon demutank kama gavana sakaja because he has really embraced sports na currently tuna pumping lots of money ku upgrade at least 30 across Nairobi kama sa itu na faya woodley woodley is being done a very nice stadium down down do yo in aisha inafanya kujesiwa malikot bero kua pia inafanya upgrade as we were supposed to have very many uh studies across the country doto zekuna cha boli anini yamcha clearly sakaja na faya good job but it doesn't take a kujwa how's your relationship with him because follow instagram you hang out with him a lot any boys any boys first ngevana itu na god pia linside ya pemi kakwa minipatia leadership ya county so as much as any boys in terms of how inakwa management ya county ya county pia na ideas pali ya because nge kia kavichiwa pamaudya that's when you come with great things because kilamitu kwa na monopoly of ideas ya so but you see there's a time you were attacked by goons na story had it story li kwa tena kaziya sakaja what was the problem ya li kwa pita na nipatia siyasa nipatia siyasa because I see killer time blend mkwambiata mkikonsol see killer time in the same wavelength sa zingine new pitana na sa zingine kama mawanahume muna decided you put your egos aside for the betterment of the electorate wana jwa electorate wata kisai juza wata kiku jwa wana ulizananini na muna muna fanyama muna kama wana wana wana so if I don't bring development in umum I suffer he suffers so for the betterment of maendelewa umutani we put those nini kanda so he li kwa nisi asa li siya pita but is it true did he send you goons li siya pita so it li siya pita li siya pita ayasawa you seem to be very stylish and I'd like to know how do you deal with pressure wana wake niki taga kupata ground kupata but your attention what keeps you focused badu pia it all comes down to your personality na pia wewa tu wiliuna jibaba na your attention emanishi anything pia na pia uku ena more roles especially because people look up to you nuki kambaya ikanairu ama demo taku zami so lazima uka e pia uku rada taji patatena uku ko head gamma ume trend so lazima pia uka ena uka ena na nini ume jipanga and then pia secondly so pia famili kwa jifu wane lewa siya sa wana shida wana nga nga na wana nga nga na wana nga nga na aju ni lazima 2a e lewa that's what is currently feeding them so ita bidi 2a e lewa also rumahazit that you have aju ni sime beef but your relationship with former MP teori is not very how true is that sheki imagine my best tattoo those are rumahaz as we've called them personal limits na issue na e I don't think he also has issues with me we talk as much as I'm concerned atuna na pia nuki kambaya tuni nga na ume it's similar to nga na ume men don't actually have issues with each other like women do kari na za kumapata mumikrosia na in one or two occasions but also enough kataimu na ya I like to know now when you're not working what do you enjoy doing apart from football also I run my businesses I have a firm that deals with clearing and folding at the JKI so also create time to go to the office and check how things are going ya so you're timing in a family me tempia ya ma boys so na pata gatu ati yufritemi nga muntumia sanasa na na ma boys mtani kupata tuni chesapu la pomta na pata tuni tuni kula ili tuni itaga kuna kajinasu ita ili tuni nga nia kukula itwa jemutu ita goni di kari mesawiyo jina matu kura jinasu ita ga because we share we share food we share food so na kwa gatu kila mtu na nespidi ya ke emsaidi nespidi ya ke emsaidi ya okay bili umere nizo 2 times unneza sema yutwa umo what is world struggle big is anani joblessness na at least inimu koneki try because during the first time wakatini lingia I used to approach companies like Naivas and wakani sa idea wakani employer also wakatikulu kuna vacancies kwa countipi eni ke zaku sa idea waka waka apply and then they went through the recruitment ya na watu onasoma na kuna job joblessness kitu bata at least ineza sema since 28 am ya pili governor at least nili come up kwanza na motion ya kujari buku ku early retirement because na patakawnti government ya Nairobi imu kuna too many old people jiri wezo times ya kitambu unge na unge pata eni waka waka kanja waka kukua rests waka otwa likuwaza so I came up with an early retirement motion na diskas na voluntari pili package send off na pay waka waka kukreti so many positions na ya kwanza tooka ya zaku employ around 3000 laborers ya kufanya drainage zusafi because umtani ya kukua kuzukia nga liya kama umo I had six na how six unu azeata singeza kua supervise ya but sa itu meza at least ku kwenda liya ku employ na currently sa i as of yesterday ndeli kua deadline ya another a thousand constables kua apply kua county so na pata not only in umoja but also Nairobi in general wata eza kubenefit from the same nama that was a complaint waka kusama easy offices a gavaz meza atu azea time sa changing unu azea kuna vitu pia wa elewi ya kitu ntika kwa mbia as we wind up vijana umo ta wami ane na apenda timrorororo timrororororo yende tim kubua the next big thing in town ya because sasa in future ndataka kutoka umoja ndi the county level actually I wanted to ask because you seem to be very visionia kuna yona you can see your vision clearly what's the goal eventually in politics want to be a future governor in like 10, 15 years so after I'm done with the mca I'll give it a try at the senate and then after the senate I'll give it a shot at the governorship of this county after that waziri yama ata running me to yama president from your atleast kiyopale raiz ndi ane ambiyoto ujama nbistiyanku ya ya it's all I believe kila kitu kila kitu as much as you try as much as you try you can get it because kuna him semo yo sema there's enough for every bird that lives the nest akunan degi utoka ga kwa nest inakosa kuru dina nacha kule me kula as long as you're not contented with where you are you're aiming higher you're able to achieve it as long as you give it a shot up to the humanly possible and then you can give it a cheer god boro me give it a shot the same women burugasana until tumezaku have this interview nipassisten to lena kosa keshweta kua also I see you in church a lot is it your way of giving back to the society am I just a spiritual person me na penda god because malin me fikani god ya looking at my background and me safa me safa nol kwa msiya 26 ya because you know the suffering is a childhood suffering is a childhood the way you've been brought yuki onama struggle because kuna kama say yuki onani kipigaluku me paralasara a day after class 8 kuna umbangu nangaliya through the journey from where I've come that's yung doktu mu shukuru mu shukuru god mi yata kusoma kumalizachu sayko nigod because my mum dint have that capacity akunelipia nigod 12 kwa kikam through sayko manegiku nda kampo nili nda kole but nili ndia kampo nikiwa after sasanimian zahasul ya nikotena kampo na malizia my other degree in psychology and counseling but ksiya ya why psychology and counseling because in the line that I'm in to look for a cause that ina nisa idea kuri late na watu because ina taka una jumtu na kukujiya nama shidazake because you might not help them but you can give them utajotu wili unazawa guide ya and then pain kwa kiyangaliya kitu piya piya ita ni take c-complexa so add to my to my CV niki malizia itena na I'll master it ya siya tera ndia kusana siku nini kufungu ati siya mani ni ati ya kanselinga mani ni ina nisa idea bad ways a person because I know how to relate I know how to relate ina binadamu yotuktuka kumtoi kufika adia juna pataga atotu akiyom kubua utapatana kwa ga natu jokes to kuiya behaviors una zaku ona ni kama nini batu na patatena kumbe ita condition ita condition ya so siya situna una unja mani utoi but it's an issue so the moment uteza kuhu kuhu analyze what we were then uteza kui shina atu fiti na uta kua uta kwa judgmental ya okay I get it so saa that's it from me thank you so much for speaking to us my name is Ndanya and this is SPM Baz