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It says President Muhammad of Bahra, okay? president lives for Senegal aids Defend trip But the twitters will be arrested defense ministers vows. I mean we hear that all the time heads must roll This is what expats are insisting on why full scarcity will persist in a butcher others federal government is quoted to say President Muhammad of Bahra OPEC world leaders others mon back into Find more details when you check out the pages another says kidnapped Catholic priests rescued in a door alleged organ harvesting a quermado wife returns to United Kingdom court today Some of the headlines you find there on the leadership But we move away from the leadership that's because we have the punch in front of us has been made by available bar to newspaper vendor and prison invasion a swap claims responsibility freeze Kaduna train attack masterminds very detailed 15 train attack masterminds escape 49 book arm leaders 237 orders freed over 100 soldiers DSS and SEDC operative garden bombed facilities. So I know that Argument is that why should we always be very reactive? We're never proactive wait for things to happen before we take action But how he laments intelligence failures sources the ledge official complicity These are riders you find underneath the boat caption, but they're more interesting headlines on the punch Another one says fuel cells at 175 naira per liter market is planned strike and cues worsen Just imagine what would happen to Lagos and what's even going on currently because you know the gridlock is something out of this world There are attack force deploy special and fighter jets Hmm. You have this cause val to battle federal government over take over and restructuring Rising subsidy will stop states from paying salaries. This is what governors are saying and Salar market has lamented the high Rams prices and low patronage people might just have to you know look for alternative like mama You know fish and what have you Global fund faults Nigeria's 19.6 million a covered 19 Procurement is what you find right there on the punch. I mean come boy. Could you attack? Buhari jets out again? I'm confident of defeating Bankie W or Bani coro is quoted and you also have family Panics as terrorists threaten abducted train passengers Lagos neighborhood officials officer Blinds party goer and agency this who owns the suspect is interesting But we hope that you know justice should be met it. Hopefully that happens Saudi Grand Snider orders 24-hour extension and Lagos Airport runway short airlines predicts flight delays What's going on in the polity called Nigeria away from the punch? We also have the daily independent jailbreak Buhari Cori's security structure at Kuwait prison expresses shock at level of destruction The president is always in shock. I mean all of the president's statements. He's in shock very shocked for dead 443 inmates recaptured DCP Abu Khairi or the VP still in custody is who up claims responsibility for attack Buhari reshuffles cabinet and was in seven ministers federal government targets 720 billionaire from bond insurance in the third quarter Impeachment and battled or your deputy governor knows fate July 26 to die in Lagos boat mishap very very saddening store caught grants or culture permission to travel abroad for Medicare and APC VP candidate to no boost talk between airify and shatima and Just underneath you find party chieftain acts court to stop APC ionic from replacing Masari and Buhari jet out Senegal for ID a summit and Oshun governor Buhari presents APC flag to Oyeh tola just before move away from that quickly read negotiated agreement We have done our part federal government delaying reopening of varsity. That's what I was saying again federal government accuses marketers of orchestrating sure scarcity Lastly we look at the nation newspaper just in front of off Could you prison 64 Boko Haram suspect escape after our talk you swap claims responsibility and disappointed in Intelligence system the president is saying abacari Nema or the safe Just away from that 2022 or shun 2022 you have another caption saying Buhari gives flag to Oyeh tola and PDP candidates absent a debate a Delicate promises council's autonomy vote buying wouldn't determine outcome says a P P candidate Doctors again threatened to kill three attack victims. I will make a difference is umana The new minister who resumes Niger Delta Fs. This is some of the headlines this morning on the nation news report Let's have a Ziko Yai to join the conversation of the way From a quibble state via zoom is it can you I can thank you so much for being with us Thanks for having me and God bless you Well, let's allow it open which of the headlines and trust you this morning on our national dailies I would like to replace the word interest with worries of concerns or bothers and The essence of government I've said this time and time again and today. I'm actually in them. I've been trying to psych myself off so much to To come alive. I'm actually in a need depressed mode because When you look at what people are going through and you see the people that we entrust with power having no understanding You know what they have no understanding is like we are singing from two different song sheets. It has to do with security Government has a Bible and that is called the Constitution in that Constitution it spells clearly the essence of government and governance chapter 2 section 14 subsection 2b says that the security and welfare of the people shall be the primary purpose of government I couldn't put this passage enough and Think of what's been going on. Let's let's get let's get Intellectual not intellectual. Let's let's let's think Take one place called The federal capital Take the second place called the seat of a military base And take the third place called the home of Mr. President When El Rufai wanted to sanitize Abuja What he did was to go for the leadership of the PDP that time the chairman and hit him and All hell never broke loose. He did it successfully and went So when next he's going to another place like Nyania or massacre or one-man village before even starts the tractors people are running because they say if he could do this to PDP chairman The helms of affairs of the state of the party then who are That psychological Mental capture of the mind of the people Giving the audacity to go any way he wanted. What am I trying to say? Kaduna is where we have all the military formations installations institutions and all the shots you can imagine These people who hit Kaduna left right and center with reckless abandon And we're like if it can happen to Caduna no it can happen to Abuja federal capital they come to federal capital they've hit us and While we are still thinking of they go to the mr. President the president of the federal Republic of Nigeria They hit him and mr. President is Surprised I wish I could be surprised that he's surprised He is surprised at what a common Nigerian will see as next to nothing That's because he really has no idea what's going on and what does he do with his surprise after being so surprised He enters his jet is like okay guys Don't worry. We'll sort it out and and he takes it out to Senegal I feel pain this morning. I feel I Hope that God will be able to forgive These people that toy with the lives my family day in Abuja They will come out of the house. There's all this News going around please lock your door. Don't go your ghetto. This would have been released They are they are in town. No and they can't imagine the level of panic the level of fear the level of pretty, you know Trepidation that's gripping the nation Well, but what do you then make I mean the the president seemed to be saying that You know the intelligence The system it's a systemic failure pointing to the Failure of intelligence at this point in time. So you have In the entire architecture those who should actually have or should be on top of intelligence and that has actually failed So should we still be blaming the president for all of this and shouldn't we also say that it's okay for the president to be shocked Apparently he expected that, you know, the intelligence should be on top of the issue and Intelligence has failed and some people are saying they might just be a compromise, you know with officials You know, they are two sayings The first thing is that to whom much is even much is expected The second saying says the box tops at the head and the leadership so Who has a power To put fear in the minds of the security agencies, mr. President When you know that there will be Consequences you will be careful with your actions I was talking about the three C's The chances that come your way the choices that you make And the consequences of your choices Now you are given an office which is a chance of some sort The choices that you make with that office you make will be determined by what you expect to be the consequences If there will be no consequences, why bother laissez faire case there are you just leave it the way it is So the box tops on the table of mr. President We you know, he's just telling us what they say all the time. Oh, we're going to look into it I need to get it report. I need to blah blah blah. We know it. We know it with Why why why can't they just surprise us for once or whatever is what? We know how it ends We know it has ended not even we know how it ends What stops mr. President or whatever is what? So spending one two three people on the spot Depending when there is this investigation and this report and we're like whoa whoa What's going on? This is now he has taken one action that action is going to that place I'm still trying to understand why he went Because usually we wouldn't even show that about who does release a press statement. Mr. President is shocked You know we are on top of the situation He has ordered an investigation And we will ensure that no stone is left unturned to ensure that We apprehend and get the perpetrators and bring them to bulk You know, it's it's a script that I can even write it for him That press releases is a standard press release that they just change the date and the location and the circumstance But the content remains the same seven years So but he has taken one bold step. I must commend him of going there I'm still trying to wonder if there is something of interest that made him to go there You know because he wouldn't go he wouldn't But he's gone. So I think that at the end of the day we cannot but hold him responsible for Whatever actions should be taken which have not been taken yet All right, Ezekiel. Yeah, I took let's also look at all the I mean concerns this morning on the pages It talks about fuel cells at 175 naira per liter That's on the punches marketers plan strike in Qs Watson. Now the president is also blaming marketers fuel, you know all marketers for The scarcity the current scarcity that's going on. I mean, they're responsible according to You know that statement for castrating the fuel crisis When you are mr. President you take responsibility The next person in line to you is the minister The minister should be called To answer setting basic fundamental question And while I was still thinking of who the minister is I discovered again is he said mr. President Why would you want to be the minister of? Petroleum for goodness sake. It's so ingenious In a country that's in dire need of diversification and they are thinking so much of diversification Mr. President is telling you that the most important institution right now is minister of petroleum petroleum oil oil So mentally we are fixated on oil as the way and not as an option I can imagine if mr. President has said look the minister of you know, I city, you know science and technology I wanted to be under me because the new novel the new future of Nigeria is I city And that's the current global trend. So I'm going to If imagine how young people will say wow I city is the in place of mr. President Then he set up an ecosystem that will isolate bad guys from the good guys It's so easy to do and our people are so endowed in in in in I city that You you you you rip that I don't even know how to put it But mr. President is the minister of petroleum Now petroleum is not working The cues are back The subsidy is one thing that they call a scam before a man who has been in charge of Ptk of that time, you know effectively petroleum Who comes to say that subsidy is a scam for all the years and then becomes mr. President and now discovers Oh, I didn't know I didn't know better I expect him to start with an apology And then let us know that we must have subsidy. There are so much discrepancies How much will do we import what are the dynamics? Why can't refineries work in a in seven years? What is the game plan? What is the roadmap minister of petroleum? How can you be mr. President and minister of petroleum at the same time? Well, so I mean, but man is hardly around Oh But that's an unofficial duty now I mean it's okay. It's it is it's actually attending to some official duty You know according to the reports that we have right here, but the federal government saying this would Please yeah, journalists. I appreciate you said that but there's something called priorities There's something called priorities Tell me that what he's going for is hoping that could not be delegated And it is more important than him sitting down When the federal capital is being attacked federal capital And the most sensitive political prison Is being attacked and they were attacking that institution for over two hours. I'm told in the federal capital We have to cannot jet. We have drones. We have everything two hours. They were operating the finish operating Now the figures coming out nobody can tell, you know, when you add up the figure It just tells how disorganized we are Less than 1000 it makes let me go say 2000 We can't even know how many are remaining how many have gone how many are these so many hours days after we can't tell the Figures look at all the papers. Everything is jumbled up There's no situation room that is giving us blue and blue account of what is going on None and then something very important has to take our president out of The federal republic of Nigeria But you know Is it coordinated to to be realistic, you know discretion is actually Priority is actually discretionary. I mean, what how do we You know, who who states what is priority to the president? It's this question And it shows that to me. No, no, no. Listen, listen sister Sister. Mr. President is not a monarch is a chief executive paid by our salaries He reports to us. We don't report to him We said the salary they say the priorities and the constitution says the priorities The constitution says my security and welfare is number one priority And I occupy a higher office than the office of the president I'm the office of the citizen of the federal republic of Nigeria, which is higher than the office of the president I said the priority I said the priority not him So don't ask who said the priority the citizens said the priority they said my welfare is paramount. Where are you going to do in Senegal? Secure me. Secure me. Make me feel safe I said the priority not me surprise not a monarch. He's not a he's not a he's not an emperor He is a he is he's like a prime minister He's not like a king or a queen Well, Mr. Zika and Yaetoko, I understand where you're coming from But you also need to face the fact that it's a reality and you talked about What should be a priority and it's your priorities discretionary What's a priority to you might not be a priority to the president Even though the constitution has stipulated that Yes, the constitution is very explicit How do how do we now you know, how do you hold him? How do you bring him to book? Even when the constitution states that the security of the welfare of the people is the responsibility of government to what extent do you You know hold the president accountable for all of that as much as we constantly say that Yes, you know, the issue of security is within the exclusive list It's sensitive and the president is the commandant chief of the armed forces Yeah, you have the president saying that you know, he's disappointed at the level of intelligence Uh, that's happening. So so how do you explain all of this? What have you done? What has he done with that disappointment? What has he done? What has he done? You know what? Let me let me say something sister If we set a poll today and ask Nigerians between staying back To give us comfort and confidence and traveling I want to tell you that over 99.9% of Nigerians will say we are so afraid. We are so scared our lives are in danger Please tell us what to do. Please forget the track Even if it was going to even commission something in Nigeria, they will even tell him please leave that thing alone first Do you understand me? And then please see they were about to you know, let me not go into that one You know, they will say please or god leave that one Even if you are going to attend the burial of my late mother or whatever I would you want to say don't come sir. Thank you. Don't come just tell us how you can secure us That's how much we are willing to even sacrifice personal things Than something that you can delegate somebody else to go go for a conference The priority is my safety and security Go to Ukraine. Look at a guy that was that was a comedian, comedian, comedian See how he's become a commander in chief sitting in front leading from the front and is able to hold out against Russia mighty Russia mighty Russia a comedian our president is a general And we're in times of war. We're in war. We're in war He cannot afford the luxury of jetting out the one attend the conference when my eyes can I cannot sleep I mean you're here But my family I'm calling every second. What's going on the security man talk to me Is anybody at the gate and you are telling me about the conference somewhere Well, quickly talking about the issue of power and the fact that it's very epileptic We have seen and heard reports. The other party also have counter reports, you know from hospital for instance potaka Saying that children didn't die due to power outage. There was power outage Well, you didn't have 14 babies dying in the incubator also There's also another report from the management. We're talking about the hospital teaching hospital university of ibadon They're also imposing on patient a thousand now the federal government is saying that There might just be plans to take over the discos and the discos are saying they would battle that with the federal government Do we have a distribution problem or the problem that we have is a generation problem We have business interest problem. That's not easy to do with distribution or generation We have his business interest I know the people involved. I know what's going. I have an idea of what's going on. We don't have any of those problems The day we have a sincere government that will have a sincere dialogue And in the context of number one, please do you have the competencies? Yes or no Do you have the capacity is yes or no? Who does have the competencies and the capacities? What is the adequate cost-reflective pricing? That makes you break even before we now talk in terms of the margins If it is five naira that is the effective cost, you know Break even point five naira, you know Can you generate within the five naira? If it is Six naira Which is or rather if it is more than that Or you want to sell at more than that Who is going to pay the subsidy? If I generate at five naira And you want me to sell at four naira There's a one naira gap That must be filled to break even Do you allow me to add that one naira and make it six naira? Or will you pay me the difference? An honest conversation on power generation From generation to distribution, let me go to the discourse The discourse a lot of times power comes in, they do not buy that power Because they are thinking in terms of how they are going to sell the cost differentials and how they will stay afloat This is very open secret that we all know but we all play the ostrich and then we complain about what doesn't make sense The day we see that there was a time I sat down for over an hour or two with the boss at any hours And we look at facts, figures, data, statistics And we just see that we are not honest and sincere in government and in governance The former boss I was there, Samamadi, is a very very close and personal friend The fact I'm as clear as day What is the cost reflected rising? If you want me to sell below that cost Who is subsidizing it? But we cannot rule out the fact that if you look at the generation, I mean look at our capacity With the existing plant that we have across you know the country We should be generating about 12,000 megawatt and 12,000 megawatt is not enough to cater for The needs of over 211 million Nigerians. We're just saying But right now we're not even You know what I'm saying this on We can't say that the problem that we're faced with because you're saying that we don't have a problem We'll have a business problem, which can be understood But we can also rule out the fact that we don't have a generation problem because To really to really look at this You cannot give what you don't have so if if the generating Let me give you information Let me give you information Please as a journalist Find out if we have generated power that is not collected Find out that Do me that favor You can be talking of generating more. I'm telling you that the ones that we generate They don't evacuate all they don't take the clock. I'm giving you information that your station can work on The problem is deeper than that The little that we generate the discourse don't Take all some of them are still locked in the grid that is not collected We are fundamental issues That's why each time people talk of generation generation generation. That's just one side of the story What I'm telling you that the discourse won't evacuate all the generated power Find out if I'm So how much are we generating What are we are we generating enough? Why are they not distributing if we're saying that we're not generating We don't have a capacity to generate up to 12,000 and we're generating below We're generating below 4,000 megawatts. Then then what how do you distribute that you have different sectors? Residential you have the hospital. You have different sector. What do you then distribute because you can't give what you don't have You're not listening to me. I'm listening To listen There is a man who generates There's a man who collects and distributes Sometimes the man who collects Refugees to collect all why? because the if the man who is generating Is not selling off all his generating then you are telling him to generate more you have not attacked the problem from first principle But if the the the the man who is collecting Is it's it's he's so much in a hurry to collect more bring more what is 7 megawatts Is not enough please bring more bring more if the pressure is On on demand that generating he is now having reason to generate more But this man who is generating he's not having all his powers evacuated. He's trying that out Now because you now come and ask why is this man not collecting all? Because of the dynamics of subsidy of power That dynamics of subsidy when this man would buy this power won't make sure that he can sell it At a cost he can get back Because that the man who is subsidizing pays him back Is a simple dynamic that we don't talk about but that is the reality Now and unless you attack that issue of a man who is selling being able to get back his money I'm wanting to buy more and putting pressure on the man who is supplying so that that man will go And even find a way to supply more We have not attacked in first principles the pricing of power in Nigeria We don't want to subsidize or want it to be cost effective Unless we attack that all these stories about generation is just Think about it get get get a specialist and tell him to analyze what I've just said and that's when Nigeria's will Go to the bottom of the problem Well, let's leave it at that moving away from that quickly We also have the daily independent newspaper and it talks about the president We're shuffling his cabinet was in seventh minister and out of them you have Umana umana who is uh, you know the minister of Nigeria Delta? What what do you make of him and his Emergence as a minister what Difference well my my comments. Um, my comments will be biased at this point Manu mana is my very good friend He's somebody that's extremely hard-working He's not one for the paraphernalia for the you know, line lights and everything is a is a smooth operator So I can say these kind words which Fortunately for me are true But I cannot divorce it from the fact that he's my friend So I expect my the question that was there before mr. Cabio is also my friend But he's more like, um, he's more of uh, you know, you know, I'm saying, you know So but mr. Umana is more more of a hard worker Who is going to sit down and look at issues? So I I actually think that there's going to be The time is short, but I believe there'll be a difference in the Niger Delta ministry Which is going to go tell into the npdc I I think is one positive development. I must thank mr. President for that choice of mr. Umana for the Niger Delta ministry I would like them not to play the politics of moving n ddc at this point Back to the presidency I want to appeal that it should be allowed to stay under the Niger Delta ministry Where I know that mr. Umana will be able to look into the matters and address In the larger interests of the Niger Delta region when he was secretary the government in a quite home state He did very well and where he was operating just before he left, you know, the oil and gas Zone Absolutely. Well, all the indices showed that it took that institution to a next level and positively So coming into Niger Delta We're standing that he has probably effectively about a few months and then there's going to be pressure on him to perform With respect to fund elections. I think he's a wise man Why is not to know what to do where to go how far to go what lines not to cross And that's the sort of person at this point in time So that ndc will not become another funding institution for politics in a way that is of theme and negates the essence of the institution I am very very happy with mr. President And I know that mr. Umana and I will do very well Well, thank you so much for the perspective and insight you've brought this morning to the big stories on the front pages of national dailies We say thank you Thank you All right, thank you so much Once again looking forward to having more of you show your thoughts right here And just before our first major conversation right here. Let's tell you what happened today in history Stay with us