 Hey guys it's Nate aka The Foot Accountant. Welcome back to the channel. I want to talk through a very important thing with you guys today and that is the middle icon SBC. When it's going to be available through foot swaps and when it's going to be available as an SBC. I want to go through some of this talk with it with you guys possibly look at some market movements and of course what is going to happen with this SBC when it comes out and when is this SBC going to come out is a very very big question as well the mid icon pack costs you eight icon swap tokens of course we have 45 days remaining of this the second set of icon swaps as underwhelming as it is you know we have a squad battles glitch that is in the game right now so I do think people are doing icon swaps because it's easier with the squad battles glitch so that's something to consider I do think people are going after some tokens but I also there's people like me who just don't have the time to grind the game as much and they're not going after the tokens but with that being said this is more maybe talking about the mid icon SBC not just the the pack from icon swaps and when that's going to come out how much is going to cost and stuff like that because this is a huge huge SBC the middle icon SBC think about all the middle icons in this game that you can go out and get from this SBC if the baby icon was popular if the baby icon SBC was popular then the middle icon SBC is just going to be as popular or even more popular we have 88 Vieira that you can get from this you've got middle croif of course you have middle hullet all of these cards in the millions and millions of coins this guy right here's three mil three mil for middle croif and you have so many middle icons that this is the thing that really interests me as well the step up on a lot of cards from their base to the middle let's go like to a Maldini for example you know if you get baby Maldini you're like okay that's an all right left back he's not really a left back though but if you get middle Maldini you're stoked right because the position change and just because of the upgrade and that's the way it is for a lot of icons in this game the baby to the middle is a pretty sizable upgrade and like I'm going to say 80 to 90 percent of icons the middle version is better than the baby for whatever the position changes or just the stat upgrade so the middle icon SBC will definitely have some insane hype and a lot of people want to do this SBC on FIFA so the first thing that we need to talk about with this is we need to look at this icon timeline really quick because a few points I want to make from this we've been referring back to this page the icon FIFA 20 pitch notes that they made earlier this year for a lot of things regarding icons right we've got the timeline from the icons are out and we have some information on SBCs and the thing that I want to point out here is prime icon moments and then the mid icons mid icons are going out of packs literally in like two or weeks man two or three weeks from whenever recording this video the middle icons are going to be going out of packs probably about a month from now because the base icons didn't come didn't go out of packs until like later in the month in December I would expect the same thing from the mid icons late to middle February would be kind of time when they go out of packs but that isn't very important to know and to discuss because last time the base icon SBC came out before base icons were out of packs so I think that some of the similarities that we see from the base icon SBC we're going to talk a lot about those today and what could be coming with the middle icon SBC as well so we know you can get a ton of cards from it right so let's go back to this base icon upgrade again and talk about a little bit with this we're going to talk timeline first and then we're going to talk price so timeline wise this came out and I'm going to show you this right here the icon swaps that were released there's a second set of swaps that were released that enabled people to get the icon pack through icon swaps set one and when that happened it was on this date I do believe November 12th or November 11th was when all the swaps released that you could go out and get the base icon pack through icon swaps and that first day when people were opening the base icon packs they had middle icons in them they had middle icons coming out of them here's a here's a clip and a pic of mad hd gamer getting a middle dog leash instead of the baby version which he should have gotten when he opened that base icon pack now I want to touch on this a little bit because I think it's very possible that when they release the mid icon pack um that the primes could come out of that pack right away we saw what the babies the mids came out and what we've seen from EA is two years in a row they've made similar mistakes with the headliner cards right so we're going to look at a bomb yank headliner actually let's look at Lewandowski because this one is relevant because he was in the first group of headliners the headliners first day of this year and last year were not searchable through the special filter on this game now they are since they fixed it but if the same thing happens this year like it does last year which seems to be very plausible or not even this year and last year earlier this year with some of the um with some of the base icons instead of those being packed people were packing these middle icons so the way that EA has messed up like the code that stuff that's in packs before I think it is very very likely that you see the another mix up with some of these base icons and maybe you see the prime icons popping out of the sbcs when we go do them that would be insane if it is but um yeah there's just uh some thoughts on that but again this base icon sbc when it came out it was around 500 000 coins and I want to get into kind of like the pricing of this sbc because I think a lot of people are interested in that how much will a middle icon sbc cost well it's of course got to be greater than the mid or than the baby icon sbc right so this sbc came out about 500k first day rose up to 625 612 came back down during black friday to 500 and then it was kind of just chilling around 500 000 coins until it went away during foot miss and they put a new one out later that was actually cheaper right the the one that came out that was out until like a week ago from now or before now that one only cost you like 400 to 450 000 coins so the secondary one was cheaper the first one's always going to be more expensive because they know it's new it's fresh people want to hit it and they're people are going to do this middle icon sbc a lot so um my kind of production or my prediction for a price range as we look at last year's mid icon upgrade this was way late in the year I don't think we can really factor this into the pricing of this sbc that will be coming out because this was in april during basically team of the year time frame at the end of march so I don't think we can factor in that the mid icon sbc would be cheaper than the baby I think going off of this squad I think that the middle icon sbc will be somewhere in the range of around 700 to 800 000 coins probably even towards that 800k range maybe at its very peak right here um in this game of fever 20 I think it is very possible and of course last time there were plenty of ways to invest in this if for example here's the 86 rated Thomas Muller uh we're going to look at these cards over the course of the beginning of the year and you can tell earlier on in the year first couple months there aren't a ton of player sbcs people are building coins in the game still there's not as many promos so the coins aren't yet flowing in the game right so there aren't many player sbcs his card stays between you know nine ten thousand and thirteen thousand coins gg's then the base icon sbc comes his card goes from 12k all the way up to basically 20k he's probably over 20k that first day when the sbc came out in that weekend black friday hits he comes back down but you know what you can see here that since this base icon sbc is out instead of his price going down to 10 000 coins and and being down low a lot of the 86s they had that you know kind of like a the constant stream of demand because people were doing those um icon base icon upgrades after black friday when it was still in the store so that's why you see these prices going up and not going back down to 10k just because there's more demand for these cards because there's sbc's out in the store so he's chilling around 1415k spikes at 19 again and this is what happens with high rated fodder a lot right especially though when it's this first time the the drop there the increase in price here is so massive because it was the very first time that these cards were really really needed for sbc's fernandino goes from 17k to 29k in two days um will you see this dramatic of a rise the next time or the when the mid icon sbc comes out i don't think so but if you can get yourself 87s at 20 000 coins are a great bargain so whenever you see that it's probably good to clubstock some 87s 86s around 14k are very good value as well under 14k is great for those and i think that if they do release this next if they do release a mid icon sbc i think that it's got to be um probably a mix and a arrangement of 87 86 87 and 88 rated squads i could really see the middle icon sbc coming out and it requires um probably mostly i would say 186 to 87s and then 188 rated squad with three of those squads being informs because they're going to include some informs in there to keep the prices high and to require more of those informed cards to clear out clubs so that's kind of like my forecast for that sbc right i would say 86 87 87 and 88 four squads but still around 700 to 800 thousand coins when those high rated golds are inflated so that's kind of my um my fearless forecast i guess you could say and again for investing in this stuff last time the 90s like mold rich and terstegen they didn't really go up that much because you know it was an 86 rated squad was the highest one or an 87 was the highest squad rating that you had to complete for the base icon sbc um but for this one i think it's very possible that you'll see these 90 rated cards go up a bunch right because if you have a 90 rated card at 55k and you have some 88 rated squads in there if they do drop two 88 rated squads maybe these 90 rated cards will come in very very handy and they'll go up a lot of coins for those sbcs the 89s as well return on investment wise some of the 89 ratings this year have been some of the best cards to invest in for pure return on investment purposes because there's not as many of them and people have no problem going out and spending 40 or 50k i mean i remember boosketz with super duper high think about some of these guys's prices for the messy player of the month sbc these guys were like 50 000 coins almost when that sbc came out it required a lot of 89s and people if people will do the messy player of the month sbc they will do multiple of these middle icon sbcs as well so of course the high ratings and the informs are going to be what's required for this middle icon sbc uh and you know i want to talk about time frame now i think this is the next most important thing that we can talk about with this sbc when is it going to come so we know when to get prepared and we know how to get prepared this is the toughest part about it is when when is this sbc going to come right as of right now uh as i'm recording this we are in the second season this is the new year season and it only has a couple of days left we are only a few days away from the next season which will refresh these icon swap objectives so that we will have new ones coming on to this game right now we only have 12 tokens available they've been they're really milking the second season of icon swaps as of right now uh it looks like if we go and look at the icon swaps sbcs we're over literally we are over a month away from getting a new set of icon swaps 45 days away from icon swap set three that's going to take us into march and again i don't want to get in the conversation about these icon swaps because i do not think they are up to standard and up to par with what um kind of players we should be looking to get in our teams for early march it's just crazy how low quality this is in my opinion the player selection in these um but that's besides the point this pack is probably unless they drop all 12 tokens because if there's 24 tokens they've already dropped 12 the next season starts in three four days then they'll drop 12 more um if they don't drop 12 tokens in the next season if they don't drop all 12 then the mid icon pack is probably going to be pushed back a little further but in my opinion if they drop all 12 tokens in the next couple of days in this next season if you will um like if you look at the top right by my face came up here new year's season and it says that it has right now three days 15 hours left if when that three days and 15 hours is up a new season comes and all 12 swaps are available via objectives then i would think the mid icon sbc is coming very soon it and when does it benefit ea to release this sbc i want to talk about this as well think about when the base icon sbc came out november 21st 2019 what was on november 27th black friday this sbc came out just a few days before one of the biggest promos in fifa ultimate team why did ea do that it was perfect timing by ea it's all ea always knows what they're doing boys i'm gonna be honest ea is very smart with this they know what they're doing with this market what they did was they put this sbc out before black friday when everybody was planning to spend a bunch of money on packs anyway and open saved up packs and whatever they put this sbc out beforehand to make people go out and spend their coins drain their clubs to do this sbc because it's hype it's fun we've never had a base icon upgrade like this early in the game which is pretty sweet to be honest so that's kind of cool content that they put out but they sucked a lot of coins out of people's clubs right before a big promo so what does that do it leads a lot of people to put on fifa points to buy fifa points and open packs during black friday because they don't have any coins after this sbc comes out and i do think that is a common theme with these sbc's that ea wants to repeat right what are the upcoming promos that we have that could be coming that would suggest and one of these sbc's being dropped before the promo we are on the end of headliners right now and we don't really know what's coming next are we gonna have a promo on this friday i think it's possible could it be future stars i think it's possible is the window too short for them to drop a baby icon sbc on wednesday or thursday and then have future stars on friday i really don't know if they're gonna do that but i think that it is possible for the mid icon sbc it's either gonna come in the next couple of days or the next week or i don't think it's gonna come for another couple weeks so i think it's either gonna be really soon or we're gonna have to wait a couple weeks for them to put it out if ea are smart which i think they are the base icon upgrade did not go away that long ago it's literally been i think like a week since that base icon upgrade left the sbc section and they know how much people love these sbcs i think they have to put it back in sooner rather than later and i think a lot of the other FIFA community feels that you'll see guys on twitter tweeting about they think it's coming this week i feel like this week might be too soon but i don't think you can go off the thinking of and originally i was i was saying this originally i was saying i don't think the sbc will be will be available until this mid icon pack is available but i think i'm kind of going back on my initial gut feeling because ea knows how much people want to do the mid icon sbc and they know what that can do to the market and help drain clubs of cards and think about what we're at right now we are after team of the year right a huge market rebound after team of the year and another the market is still very high with these headliner cards huge live items that will be live for the rest of foot we are on the tail end of two massive three weeks basically of team of the year and headliners promotions which is all pack based and that think about this man they've been doing sbcs basically every day during the headliners promo flashbacks player moments other headliner sbcs and that's just continually trying to drain coins out of people's clubs before another promo where they're trying to get them to spend uh so i do think it is possible maybe they dropped this sbc sometime around um when the prime moments icons are going to be coming in the game right maybe they dropped this sbc in the next like maybe two weeks from now so maybe a week before prime moments come out so like a week and a half or two weeks from now could be that time uh and i'm recording this at the end of january by the way if you're watching this later i think that right before this moment these moments come out could be a perfect time for this because ea they know this year moments is going to be different right they said down here in this uh in the right here moments um this defines a truly memorable historic performance in an icon's career that elevated them to the all-time greats and as this year in fifa 19 not every card had a moments right as an icon can have any moments throughout their story career their previously released moment icon version in foot 19 won't necessarily be the same version of fifa 20 as well so we're going to have different moments cards from last year and we're going to have all fifa 20 icons receiving a moments which was not the case last year either so we're going to be talking a lot about prime icon moments in the coming coming days and coming weeks and i think the mid icon sbc could be a coin suck happening right before that so those are kind of my thoughts on the mid icon sbc what it's going to cost um is it going to be before a big promo like future stars or after a promo and before moments uh moments and then of course some of the market movements because of that so if you want to invest in this i would not say that right now is the time to do it again we just looked at thomas moeller thomas moeller's card is like 18 000 coins at the moment 17 k these cards are all inflated because of all the sbc's we've had during headliners those sbc's expire tuesday 6 p.m uk so you're going to see a lot of sbc's go away except for like the sane and for the burnardo silva and then after that obviously we don't have a ton of sbc's in the store but these cards are probably going to drop in price now again i say this a lot if you're looking for the if you're looking for something to invest in right if you're looking for something to invest in especially related to high high tier golds like sbc fodder golds 86 rated players my buy price for these is always 14k if we look at the graphs let's look at ferrari scrap for example my buy price for these cards is always 14k for the 86 is look he goes to 14k right here boom back up to 16 goes to 14k boom all the way up to 19 boom 14 15k goes up to 20k these guys always ebb and flow as sbc's are released and sbc's are pulled back off the game so that's why i don't want to invest in these cards right now it's honestly investing in these fodder cards is really easy because you see that when they're low no sbc's are out or a bunch of packs have been opened then you just buy them right 87 rated at 20 000 coins are a huge buy for me even at like 21k for some of them with good links i'm a huge fan there 88 rated cards like a tony cruise this would be a great sbc fodder type card if you see this guy around like 25 or 26k i'm a fan of that so 88's around 25 or 26 and then 89 rated cards uh in the low 30s so like a cool abali at like maybe 32 that's a little bit low let's say like 33 or 34k for a cool abali would be a great great sbc investment and then stock in like 84 85 rated informs as well would be a great investment for your clubs uh at this time and of course this is a general tip i'm going to use inform payette as an example if you're going to invest in informs and you're going to be way ahead of the game look at this guy's inform this guy's left to wing 84 rated inform i think is like 30k he's over 30 000 coins this is a guy that was in what like team of the week nine or something like this an early team of the week that has just been hit upon hit upon hit of sbc's that require informs since he came out into the game until now so if you see if you're looking through some of the cheapest 84 rated or 85 or 86 rated informs and you see somebody from a very earlier on team of the week that has good links in a good position for sbc's those are gems to buy because they're so much more rare on the market than somebody who is in the current team of the week that everybody's going to go look to use so if you see somebody from a very old past team of the week and they're still in a good viable range compared to the other cheapest 84s put your coins into those before you put your coins into a team of the week car that is from a current team of the week just because they'll have less supply on the game as all the old ones have been supply has been taken off the market as people do sbc's with those cards throughout the weeks after they go out of packs and again what other market movements could you see because of this sbc would i expect middle icons to take a hit to that i would say yes a little bit um some of the middle icons i think we saw this with the babies a little bit too they took a quick hit but then they went right back up because people realized yo these cards are not very easy to pack the drop weight was not very high for some of these cards and packs in those base upgrades and then some of the middles the middle sbc could actually impact some of the babies price as well because you have people that probably have got baby icons in their team maybe some of them are tradable and they go and sell those to go and do an sbc so you might see some icon panic all the way across the boards but i would expect at least on the very usable and very meta middle cards i would expect a decent rebound shortly after especially if it's headed into a promo more coins come out of the game and people go buy back cards because they realize they did one or two mid icon sbc's and they couldn't pack one of the ones they wanted so they go back and buy cards but you'll probably see panic selling heading into that sbc or when that sbc drops and it's maybe it's a surprise then you will see a little bit of panic until that sbc kind of cools down i guess you could say but you should see some panic initially right away so huge video today talking about the mid icon sbc and what could happen with this game FIFA 20 i hope that this sbc comes before it's available in icon swaps because this pack especially if they release the next set of swaps and it's only six tokens again then we're gonna have some issues and it's gonna be really really hard to get this pack you will only be able to get this pack if they release six tokens next time if you've gotten every single token so far which i don't think a lot of people have gotten so if they release all 12 in the next season then i think it's very possible that the icon sbc would come pretty soon after that because then all the tokens would be easily attainable to get this 18 if you're somebody who's grinded some of them that were a little bit earlier on in the game so if you'd like this video hit a thumbs up on if you have any questions of course drop them down in the comments and of course if you're new hit the sub button i would greatly greatly appreciate it and yeah i'm super stoked for the mid icon sbc i don't have a ton of coins to do one i'm not broke don't worry i've got some stuff that i'm investing in got some stuff that i'm trading with that's why i don't have a ton of coins right now but i will definitely try to do one maybe if you're like crafting of some sorts during a promo with upgrade packs we love to do those right but we'll definitely hit a mid icon sbc as again as i said a lot of people are going to be insanely pumped to do this sbc when it comes out so hopefully you guys enjoy the information today it's been Nate the foot account i'll catch you guys later peace out