 Let me get to what I view as our point of deepest disagreement in all of political philosophy and then you respond to it. If I ask myself, what are these movies as a set really about? To me the core message is how hard it is to exercise freedom of the will and that evil is both stronger and more attractive. So the central character is Darth who is mostly evil. There's some redemption at the end, but he never sets things right. He just stops there from being further destruction. Even in episode seven, there's a terrible amount of murder. Nothing is set right in the galaxy. Episodes one through three, which we both admire. They're all the Darth story. Luke just ended up doing voices for children's cartoons. Even Han Solo is a bit of a scoundrel. And if you look at Anakin, who becomes Darth the evil guy, he gets Natalie Portman. Luke kisses his sister once and is sent to live in some nether world that looks like New Zealand. And then he looks like he has an opioid addiction. And that's good. So to me, it's all about the potency of evil. And that that's why Lucas picked the Lenny Riefenstahl scenes for episode four. When there's the triumphant rebels coming at the end, it's taken from Nazi cinema, right? We all know that. So I have this deep and dark view of them. And then it's not surprising I would find return of the Jedi number six to be the weakest and really admire episode one. Now you totally disagree with that and consider that to be absurd. So tell us what you think. I don't consider it absurd. So I think one of the, you know, sources of awesomeness in these cartoon like improbably awesome movies is that an interpretation like the one that you offered is eminently plausible. And there's material there that justifies it. And let me say a little bit in favor of your interpretation and then say why in the end it's not mine. So William Blake said of the greatest religious poem, I think in the English language, Paradise Lost, said of John Milton, roughly this. He said, the reason Milton wrote in Fedders and speaking of God in heaven and at liberty when speaking of the devil and hell is that he was a true poet and of the devil's party without knowing it. Now that's a wow sentence. It's about Blake's, I don't think this was Blake's considered view, but Blake's flirtation, let's say, with the view that Satan runs away with Paradise Lost because a true poet is more Dionysian than Apollonian and the kind of wild system one eroticism or something of Darth Vader or Satan is ultimately what sublimely powerful, something like that. That's in your interpretation of the movies. I don't see it that way. And I think George Lucas kind of got a little bit at why I don't see it that way. He said in one interview long after the original trilogy, I think long after the prequels too, he said, every one of us has a choice of being a hero. Every single day of our lives, we can treat somebody with dignity and kindness or not. We can be a decent person on that day or not. And I think that kind of somewhat innocent and earnest thinking that you are at a crossroads, you can go one way rather than the other, is basically the authorial voice behind Star Wars. So it may be that you're turned off and I don't love the Ewoks so much and the way they, a little too cutesy, I agree with that. But the idea that Luke, so I think this is one of the most powerful lines in, let's say, popular culture in American history. I am a Jedi like my father before me. That's extraordinary. And what's extraordinary about that is the statement is my father, the worst person in the universe, is a Jedi. And that is claiming the goodness and non-sifthness of the father. Ultimately Luke makes it true that the jedi-ness of Vader is redeemed in the end. And that's where I think the movies in the end come down. But they do go to the dark side. So that's why I think what you say has plausibility. They don't in the end honor it.