 Yeah, man So five hundred Five is call it five hundred and then 30 30 That's basically the almost 68 project in a nutshell over a long period of time of two fifths of Say five to ten years if you buy $500 laptops one two three four five the last four end up in landfill Whereas if you do this project this type of thing you buy one base station You buy a 30 dark for a base you over 68 laptop housing $30 card year zero next year third card for a thing and these end up in an ecosystem Where this is now in a data center With lots of little Computer cards like the Raspberry Pi Kohler who coated hosting and the guy who buys them from you makes three euros a month And kit and keeps them out of landfill The second the second way so that's the one of where you've got Multiple cars because you can upgrade continuously multiple cars into one housing the other way is You have a laptop and You have a tablet and you have a desktop PC and Whatever else it is that you want to do a micro desktop when all in one PC with the keyboard hanging off of there and You have one card that goes into Every single one of those devices Now you save money you save yourself if you've got two devices you've saved 40% the cost of Buying one tablet and one laptop and You no longer have the problems of your data being incompatible with the operating system on the here and here Because this is running Windows. This is running Ios this is running your smart tablet is running Android whatever and it doesn't happen to have the same capability or capacity Therefore it doesn't work Instead of memory card being used to transfer the data You take the computer card at the whole computer and transfer everything applications and data and you get consistency and also another big advantage is You can try in the shop You can say oh I'm not sure if I want to buy your card your new card with the super-duper processor with the blah blah blah blah Can I please try it? You unplug your computer card and plug in the new one inside the shop and Test it out and try it out on your device and see if you like it So those are the basic advantages of the modular computing approach Which Intel copied? World's first computer card initiative by Intel whoo Intel computer card 2006 CES loads of distributors So excited and I'm going that I'm looking at what they're writing on the internet and it's like um, oh We are so excited to be working with Intel on there are little micro desktop thing where people can upgrade their computers like You quoted that out of my 2015 white paper Prior art man prior art not from me, but from ice computers in Taiwan 2010 who yeah, they've got patterns. Oh But the actual concept of modular computers goes back to a 1983 Expired patent where somebody put a computer including the LCD on a PCMCA form factor credit card size computer So You got patterns screw you Sorry anybody who's offended by that sort of thing I'm not okay so Simon Sinek, I apologize for that quick introduction there, but I just wanted to get my breath back from being a bit late Simon Sinek says Simon says that you should do a talk by explaining why how what not What how why? The one that is incredibly funny is he said Martin Luther King did not give a speech. I have a plan Which is the what he's had a dream about why? Why I am doing this is because I am fed up with the manufacturers making devices which end up in landfill which are designed for obsolescence designed for manufacture not repair and Designed for to provide the manufacturer with the right to shut down your entire device remotely as happened When Google bought a company that provided an always on home smart management system with 18 months They decided they didn't want anybody to use it anymore. They wanted people to buy the Google devices So they remotely shut the down the device completely bricking it Claiming that it was out of warranty so this kind of thing I considered to be highly unethical and environmentally incredibly Irresponsible of the manufacturers unfortunately Because we do not have any choice We in order to connect with other people and to achieve the kind of worldwide global Connectivity that we know has beneficial Effects Unfortunately where required to commit to these companies for them and buy their devices now if you people here are Technologically aware enough to be able to reprogram and repurpose your device It's to the extent extreme extent of spending two years reverse engineering something just to be able to keep it done and round for Another two to three to five years I've know that a lot of you have a ten-year-old thinkpads There's I've seen people with the Sony Veos the ones with the pulse flow chipsets I've seen Toshiba libretto's and and is amazing. I'm so impressed and delighted with what you guys are achieving I What I want to do is to get empower The people who cannot do not have the same skill set as you do to be able to achieve the same result to same end result So how I'm doing that same for what why how I am doing that is by splitting the design into a passive ioboard and a modular small form factor computer and When you when you so in that way you can upgrade and share and do all the benefits that are described in the 2015 Rumbus Google keyword search for people watching here and anybody who wants to see it Rumbus tech Eco computing white paper an option you can put to fit 2015 but that will give you the search keywords that you need to find the white paper and find out a comprehensive 12,000 word essay on on all of the benefits for all of the different Perspectives which are involved in the chain behind mass-volume computing manufacturing Fantastic. I've got somebody wearing the t-shirt Oh Yes Compute like nobody's watching because they now they can't yes straight out of The thing with a bit of a pistachio from Edward Snowden's thing So, yeah, very good. Thank you very much for bringing us real. That's really fantastic to see Now So that was that's basically how in the what now the status on this talk is about the update So I've done a very brief bit about what how why how and what I'm doing The The updates are supposed to be my opportunity to communicate with you about What I'm doing and to prevent prevent present you prevent you with the opportunity Presents you with the opposite you in tunity to give me some advice and feedback and also to reassure you that I am actually doing my absolute best in Combination with your input and feedback and advice So it is very please if you are following this project, please do Either sign up for the net book mainly on net book main list the ineptly named on net book mainly Or on the crowd to play updates just so you can keep in touch and keep informed about what's going on I appreciate they're quite long but it is a very good reason for that and it is a documentation of the project so that people who doing another project sometime in the future Can see what what I did why I did it and what the result of that decision was and The reason for that that why I am committed to doing that is because I learned from the open moco and the open pandora and The da da da which in turn Documented their projects in a similar fashion So it's not just about me and it's not just even about what we think you may think oh my god He's written a 5000 word essay as an update It's for people who in the future who will have Who have the time to and have a specific problem, which is exactly documented in these updates as how we went about solving it So solving the problem documenting and solving problem, so It may score with some people's heads, but that's why I'm doing it now The issues which I've encountered so far starting with The first The first card All right, this is back to 2010. I told the guys who spent $10,000 All right to get a set of these guys please make me a card when please look up the the documentation on the schematic to To make the card fit inside a 54 by what is it 86? 86 90 whatever I can't remember the thing. I'm supposed to know these numbers in my head. Whoops anybody know dimensions of PCMCA. I Know the 54 one. Okay, let's call it a 86 okay, whatever it is. I was saying Didn't follow my instructions and made the PCB 54 by 86 on the external dimensions Fortunately as a junior design engineer on there was a power management chip where was a line There was a pad here and he didn't run the design rules check before sending it off to the Gerbers off to a factory And there's a short circuit between 3.3 volt and ground The guy was so embarrassed he won't run the ply saying I'm terribly embarrassed And if you've been Japanese it would have gone with the sword, you know sort of committed Harry Kirrie But luckily he was Chinese and he just lost face rather than his life His manager didn't tell him to go and jump off the thing. So they offered us access to Their top Engineer who made the most beautiful ddr3 layout I have ever seen in my life It's the the EM The EM interference from these tracks is will be zero if we as everything it was a fantastic It was a work of art. All right, it's $5,000, but it did actually work, but on it. It had If this was the version of a standard which had Ethernet on it gigabit ethernet and unfortunately by about 2013 we had to change the it to USB 3 Okay, so ethernet Out it was also had satirized so we took satir out and Put USB 2 but eventually by about 2015 I changed it to USB 3 and USB 3 as well. So there's 10 gigabit per second when dual lane of two USBs Two USBs thank you ten minutes left Two USB 3's which gives 10 gigawit per second try data transfer speed when cards available Which will do that kind of transfer rate. So This here 5,000 this here this version was $2,000 here was another $2,000. There's basically two ground of time to get 10 samples made up Okay, but at this point I decided to stop and I was just I was not going to do spend Irresponsible amounts of money on doing Disupt PCB designs and I would do it myself Okay, so That's why other things so To one seven now throughout all of this we had TSS OP 48 NAND chip up to about Here, okay the TSS at the NAND The speed of the NAND chips that are available because it is very hard-coded specific the A20 processor can only a bootrom not the actual thing once you get beyond the boot room It's fine, but the bootrom can only look at certain combinations of looks for brute force Attack and we've took brute force search for certain combinations of speeds Capacities and block sizes etc. Etc. And error correction ECC things and by this time 8 gigabyte NAND flash TSS OP legacy NAND Was not not slow enough not fast enough was not slow enough to be accessible by the A20 now even Nintendo we they were caught out Nintendo were caught out By this problem and the reason why in around this time that they stopped mass producing The thing is because the NAND chip wasn't available Right, so it's not just me not even the buying power of Nintendo could over cut of it could overcome the problems of the mass project production of The legacy NAND stopping so that had to go It's another $2,000 and the trusting of thing the other one is the HDMI port. We are on to the fourth Fourth fingers fourth HDMI port the first one for an Amphenol was Very good one it fitted perfectly that went into life Then the reverse reversed one same manufacturer that went into life two years ago Then the molex one that we found Tested that out and couldn't get hold of it. I was a stupid mistake on my part But they are saying finally we've moved to one by Japanese a aerospace engine in J J AE and I've bought three thousand of them or two wheels. I said, that's it. I'm not doing this See this thing again I'm buying the wheels right now and the thing is they're only 15 cents each so it's okay monetary wise It's not breaking the bank So these kinds of things but it's the reason for that come for that Those kinds of decisions is because it is such an unusual connector All right, if it was a common part if this was a single ball computer big one I will be able to get top mount connectors. No problem on the micro desktop It's standard USB and standard the blah blah blah and standard VGA. I can get those no problem There's hundreds pliers different suppliers that can get exactly the same part But these parts that I'm using because it's mid-mount circuit board. It's very very specialist parts So cross fingers will be okay The other thing is the DDR3 RAM Right Not a fan Apple The Huge demand insatiable demand for Apple devices. I apologize to all people who are in fact Apple fans and actually appreciate their work I mean it's fantastic But the demands being placed on the component suppliers has actually caused Complete stocks in the whole of Shenzhen and Taiwan To full plummet to zero for all all DDR3 RAM chips Every single embedded computer Supplier that only maxes out a DDR3 is completely screwed Hopefully after Chinese new year We will bear the situation has got so bad that I think that all of the manufacturers have taken notice That their their customers are screaming at them And all of their distributors are screaming at them because the distributors customers are screaming at them give us a King DDR3 RAM So The situation should improve after Chinese new year once All of these manufacturers are no longer A contractually required to supply Apple with insane quantities of DDR4 memory Okay, so that's some I said how long we got Five minutes left Let's I like I like to the things of how many people have a question so a clever particularly for clarification If anybody's got any questions feel free to feel free to ask If not, I'll sort of find some other random things to talk about Any questions Ideas, okay. All right, okay, so What is so we talk about So we've got a little recap we've gone over the how why and How how why how and where Why I'm doing this project and what I'm thinking the benefits in the environmental level of things I'll describe to you the the history of the decisions of that are uncomfortable decisions including having to change the standard to suit a Decade or two decade future Lifetime of the standard Some are also uncomfortable decisions about having to remove components from the board Because they've gone these things have gone out of thing. This is all part of the course Did anybody say I'm go to the component sourcing talk that I I did yesterday. Yeah, you did call and I apologize for your vision wise you've got Things I did I read out the URLs of the websites that I was Doing yeah, fantastic tau bow.com Pannell look com with one L Ali express calm you do have to log into that It's the only one that need requires a login and of course did you key RS online and all those ones you can use but use a Combination of those resources to find the components. So that's good So anybody's interested in that the talk will be is online, etc, etc, so you'll be able to review it What else can I think I'm future products that I'm for future designs bear in mind that I am the guardian of the Oma 68 standard under the rules of certification marks. I am not permitted to sell products Okay if you are a developer you can contact me and you can come Over the over that line and work with me to reach people Okay, and help me to write documentation do kernel porting do this improvements their patches, etc, etc So that way I can get you access to a board early, but otherwise Unfortunately, it's a it's a it's a no Because I can't I really cannot cross that line of Competing with businesses who might wish to sell might wish to be the ones that sell you products so that explains in part some of the thing because also I've kept this project at the techie phase mailing list not forum Yeah because He I wanted specifically to make it clear to people that this is not yet fully user ready if you know what I mean And that's very important so that the people you know if you've got a million people buying this right now All of us me included would be totally overwhelmed There will be complaints that Oma 68 is a failure and the standard would be dead All right, I think I'll be with the past six years will be completely wasted so there's a very deliberate reason why I am going steady slowly and I think because I am thinking about planning for the future. It's about it's like being the the The the technical director of WC3 standards organization thing is like, you know, I'm thinking except I don't take bribes and I don't take Money which is claimed to be a sponsorship To insert this DRM thing into the W3 standard, you know who you are Tim So yeah, so I put this thing yes question it's okay I have to be careful how I answer the question was Why am I not collaborating with Olimax on this project? I? Cannot publicly discuss it with you for fear of Harming the reputation of the Eoma 68 project by having to publicly disclose to you some of the No, I can't I can't I can't talk about it. Okay. All right. I Can talk to you privately about it. That's not a problem as long as you don't You know start blogging about it, etc, etc Yeah, you will you will find a thing You will see you will see the consequences of Svetan's actions and decisions eventually, okay I'm Okay Right The answer really has to be when it's ready I would be fantastic to have been at the phase where I am now where the production Testing pre-production testing was done finding blah blah blah blah, but the rules for crowdfunding are you must have a working prototype? Before you can go to the things and I I'm sorry. I apologize. I did have a working prototype it's just that the The things that you deal with with components going end-of-life and blah blah blah, etc, etc, etc And get and get in getting guaranteed supply You can't you can't it's not like software where you can release it and fix it afterwards Hardware one mistake you got a short circuit like these guys had here the board won't even bolt up. It will catch fire Okay, it's very hardware is very very different. You have to get it right And here it's even more complex. It's the software collaborates with the hardware So I have safety issues To consider which are in some parts is taken away in an extreme way of just if the current goes over a certain limit The hardware the board the the the the system is permitted to just cut the power no no no notification Nothing right over current protection. It's cut in it's in microseconds bang. It's out your your cards Your is is offline No power. So These are kinds of things that I have to think about and make sure I think now to answer your question specifically Now that we have done the pre-production prototype the PCBs are have been done Mike is now buying the components. He should have everything by about About end of February with the exception of the DDR3 RAM Okay, we'll have to work out where to get the DDR RAM from now. We're probably able to about March Okay, once he's made up put that on and sent them to me it'll take about me about three days to get to me Wherever I am in the world. I will test it I will give him the green light and say go buy Thousand one thousand four thousand five thousand components right now Okay, he's already got the cash in the bank to do it Okay, so from there I will he will then be able to describe to me exactly what the expected schedule is of his factory and that will be a formal process That will be easily predictable So Apart from hiccups and stuff like that. There will be no unknowns or unknowable Unknowns is the thing you can't know what you don't know But you didn't know that you didn't know in order to be a fix the thing that you didn't know Yeah, that was the previous pit situation all of those things apart from the King DDR3 RAM Apart from that are all fixed those are all in the past now as long as none of the components go end of life Cross your fingers and everything else Okay, yeah, so maybe June July plus DDR3 Yeah The question is have I talked to the Linux Sunnex I team about the a20 no Because you will find out why The Sunnex I team Did not consult me before moving to a Google group Which I think they they abandon thing read between the lines here They en masse moved from the resources that I was doing and from from from helping me in collaborating to Sunnex I Linux Sunnex I wiki and to the Google groups Yeah, yeah So I I can't talk to them I'd privately I can send them email and they will maybe do something but it turns out that actually the The limit the there's two branches the stable one that works were hundred percent known works hundred percent with all the hardware of This card and the thing is the three point four point three point four point one oh four plus colonel And unfortunately, there is stuff still missing from the hardware Which would stop some of the cake capabilities of this card from even working So it's like why would you go to a mainline colonel when you can't actually connect stuff that is really important for the customers and for people to Actually use so when that is done Because it will work with everybody else's cards and Computers and single boards. I will just be able to be able to cut over that and make a make a Release and it will probably actually work with the Debbie and straight out of the thing. But there is the Do you know 96 boards and the beagle boards problem Yeah, of the shields the shields have to actually have their own device tree Which you then have to patch in at runtime after you've booted and detected what the cut what the shield actually is And that is what the e-prom is for in on the housings It's part of the number 68 standard is requires that there be an identification e-prom on the housing every single one of them Fixed known address on the I squared C bus which must not conflict with any other Device so it's not x51 for the address to read that e-prom so it's part of the standard You cannot put at any advice any other device on Address not with 51 because it will be problem. So being able to read that we can then find out which Device tree fragment for that board should be inserted into the kernel thing and that that is where our need assistance from people from volunteers to help to write those things and also Kick the Linux come mainline people to actually put the device tree patching Dynamic patching system main into mainline But again doesn't necessarily need the Linux on as I team to do that because it's a mainline thing that it can be Handled by the Laro can and will be handled by the Lunaro team the The Beagle board team that there's another thing so it's an important thing for all of these boards Which oh incidentally happens to be useful for this Yeah So yeah, cool Thank you very much guys