 So this is the new procedure. I have to start the hangout then start Alpha geek radio Alpha geek radio video. So Alpha geek media However, I will forget that probably tomorrow Okay The first day back. I'm like, ooh, I got it all done right. All right. Good man. Thank you You're very kind Shall we do this do it Daily tech news show is brought to you by me. You're welcome But it's also brought to you by over 4,000 other people who also find some value in it every day If you listen for the next 30 minutes and get even a little bit of value out of it yourself Consider going to patreon.com and searching for Daily Tech news show and giving some value back Now roll that beautiful theme music This is the Daily Tech news for Monday, August 24th, 2015. I'm Tom Merritt and it's so good to be back I miss doing this show for a week a week Veronica Belmont is here. She was here last week though, and it went very well. Do you have a good time? Yeah, we had a great time Roger and I how was your assignment? The assignment went well everything was awesome people that I work with on that Connected tech show that I was out filming last week are fantastic, but man. I really missed this It's so good to be back. Yeah Well, thank you. Happy Monday to you. Let's do some headlines TechCrunch reports Microsoft launched the first public beta of Cortana for Android You can have Cortana on your Android tablet or your phone set a reminder search the web track flights Such should like things that Cortana does however unlike on Windows you can't just say hey Cortana to activate the assistant I was leaving a space in there so I don't actually activate people's Windows phones So you can't do that? You can't open apps or toggle settings with Cortana and the beta is only available in the US right now But you can get it if you're in the US at play.google.com slash apps Slash testing slash com dot Microsoft Cortana will have that link in the show notes, too I can't test the desktop version yet because my Windows 10 install has catastrophically failed Once more after a week of attempting to repair it. So it installed it upgraded fine, right? the first time we had going from Windows 8 to going to 10 was fine for several days and then I got a critical process error failure and went back to Reverted back to Windows 7 and then was able to do a clean install of Windows 7 start everything fresh go to the factory restore and then Upgrade back to Windows 10 which was a bad idea because I'm back at square one again as of this morning So fine new computer me. That's what that means But but now you can put Cortana on your Android phone. I have that definitely I think why just before we do move on I want to say like this This is another good thing to see. I wish that an Android is certainly not the worst of these I wish these other operating systems would allow third-party apps like Cortana to have access To the underlying operating system so they could do all of their functions and iOS is the worst at that Trust me I'm not I'm not picking on Android here and Windows doesn't do that on Windows phone very well either So it's it's not like this is unusual But I do like to see a little more cross-platform functionality going on. That's good It would be very nice for sure avid life media owner of Ashley Madison is offering a $500,000 Canadian reward for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of the attackers Responsible for the leak of the Ashley Madison database Toronto police acting staff superintendent Bryce Evans announced the bounty He also acknowledged receiving two unconfirmed reports of suicide related to the data leak Yeah, that means they heard the reports and they're investigating them So we don't actually know anything more about that detail wise But yeah, putting out a big old bounty there It's interesting because Ashley Madison hadn't really from what I've heard so far They haven't connected with their users at all about this database leak. They haven't you know said anything about it on the home page I believe there haven't been any emails sent out about it. They're going straight to the bounty apparently But I have very mixed feelings about this whole thing I think there's a lot of you know, there's a lot of gray area This is not a black-and-white situation in terms of you know, we're not just getting out there and embarrassing People who are you know having extramarital affairs There's more complicated situations involved and a lot of those stories are coming to the front to people who have you know I mean, it's it's it's a bad scene all in all well Yeah, and we I think you a lot of this was discussed last week, but the lawyers Used this people had other folks sign them up as a joke so their names are in there People who were at a different point in their lives signed up a while ago and their names are in there So yeah, there's there's all kinds of explanations And and context around the leak what is black and white is yeah Do you it was illegal for them to hack in and steal this database and leak it so You know that that part is getting the cooperation of the Canadian authorities The next web reports that Google is testing a new feature that will alert a user if they take a photo in a quote food-related place That's called a restaurant where I'm from or grocery store Anyway, I guess it could be more than just a restaurant. It could be a grocery store. There you go So food-related place and then what Google will do is offer to automatically add that image to the location on Google Maps So it's a way for you when you're using Google Maps to see a little bit more about the restaurant Features being tested by map maker guides of level three or above those vaunted wizards Hmm. I believe they're volunteers who help edit Google Maps But they're testing it right now and the intention though would be to roll it out to everybody Just be careful in German restaurants because the courts there recently determined that chefs hold the copyright over the appearance of their food And even in a photo you take that's fascinating. I don't Yeah, that's nuts like they created that it's like artwork, right? Like you you when you're in a museum. They're like, oh, you can't take pictures of the art They're saying that the same applies to chefs, but fascinating. Yeah, I'll have to read up on that because I'm very curious to learn more LG's upcoming 10 inch g-pad 2 will feature a 7400 milliamp hour battery according to tech crunch Oh boy, the g-pad 2 won't be revealed or get a price until next month at ifa in Berlin But will also feature a 1920 by 1200 display, but that battery dough that battery is the selling point Yeah, right. I mean That's a lot of battery. They're saying two days of use which I think is constant use and my tablet's already with their three there Fit piddly 3000 plus milliamp hour batteries get days and days of battery life as it is that thing will last you forever Subject a title for the episode that battery dough that battery dough that battery dough because otherwise I don't care about a new tablet at this point frankly They're not that exciting but that that's pretty exciting New York Times reports that Intel is part of a 100 million dollar round of investment in Marantis an open stack based enterprise cloud company Intel could help open stack with integration and scalability and make up for Some of Intel's decline in chip sales as cloud services have been reducing server sales This is we don't usually report on funding Happening because it happens all the time but what's interesting here is that Intel putting money into cloud services is hedging its bets against the decline in hardware sales and They're injecting open stack with some some life not that open stack has been dying But you know, it's it's another big name getting in on the open stack Enterprise the open source enterprise there. Yeah In the wake of stock market declines based on fears of a slowing Chinese economy Apples Tim Cook says that China will continue to be a quote unprecedented opportunity over the long term Cook told CNBC that the App Store in China had its best performance over the past two weeks according to Reuters and Tim Cook sent an email directly to Jim Cramer. Yeah, that he was like specifically like I don't know if Jim Cramer had even emailed him first Or if it was just a bit of an empty email I imagined it as Tim Cook like, you know, who's gonna say crap about this. I gotta get to Jim Cramer right now Yeah I'm down there, but that's that's yeah He's he's definitely getting out there and trying to calm some of these fears around the the stock right now But one of I mean everybody's stock is taking a hit right now If you haven't heard most of the stock markets in the world are declining or we're declining this morning Because of fears around Chinese economy economic concerns With Apple they're saying look our phones have been selling. Well, they've been increasing in sales We haven't been adversely affected But a lot of analysts are pointing out that the fallout from the slowing economy may not have shown up in Apple sales yet the market is just now getting saturated and it's not what happened last quarter that investors are worried about It's what's going to happen in future quarters and and while Tim Cook may believe rightly so that sales will continue to be strong It's it's harder to say that for sure. Bye. Bye. Bye That is not an actual financial recommendation That was Veronica saying goodbye to the main part of the headlines and hello to the news from you are No, does that not work? All right. No, I liked that Okay, good daily tech news show that reddit comm is the place to submit stories many of which we have already discussed We don't call out every single single one So if you submitted a story and you heard us talk about it just take credit for it Just tell everyone. Yeah, that was me. But we'd like to call out a couple of them Haterate sent us another USA Today story about how police departments in America use stingray cell phone trackers to find routine crime suspects The US in particular police in Baltimore and at least 35 other cities use the device Which poses as a cell tower in order to track a phone's location within a few yards now use of the device Frequently is concealed not just from suspects But from lawyers even prosecutors and judges in part due to non-disclosure agreements with the FBI from which They get the stingrays Detective Jimmy McNulty may have said I caught him bunk on the stingray. I caught him and he doesn't have to know it That's from the forthcoming HBO series stingray stingray. Yeah on the streets It takes place in Baltimore and 35 other cities around the city. It's an anthology show much more ambitious. Yeah, yeah Star Fury Zeta tipped us off to this story wired UK reports Twitter has blocked API access from 30 accounts from the Open State Foundation The accounts like Polly twoops and Diplo twoops preserved deleted tweets by politicians and diplomats naturally the US version of the service was blocked May 15th We're gonna talk more about this in our main discussion. Yeah, let's just go right into our main discussion story That's why I put it at the end here real quickly though. I want to point out that in the actual show the wire They actually got judicial review of their wire unlike what is described in the stingray And that's a look at the headlines All right, so no, it's not Duplo twoops has nothing to do with child blocks It's Diplo twoops and Paula twoops and it's not the DJ Diplo either. No good point not Things that he said and deleted off of Twitter What is what was happening is is 31? Accounts at one point, but the US one was blocked May 15th have been Notifying you through Twitter if a politician or a diplomat Tweeted something and then deleted it so that you could say hey, you know what they don't want you to see this But this is something they wrote now Twitter has blocked API access for all of those accounts Those accounts were doing that tracking. They've been archiving them. They're still archiving them and You'll see a lot of headlines. They're playing fast and losing them these sites are being blocked The sites are not being blocked. What what is being blocked is they had set up it through the API a way to Automatically tell if certain accounts had deleted a tweet and then be able to post that tweet Before it was it disappeared that way, so it's automatically retweeting it as soon basically as soon as the deletion occurred. Yeah, so Twitter has said that's just not okay We we think it's unfair if people want to delete a tweet for you to pull it back into existence So we're cutting off your API access. Now. Let's be clear. These folks can still look for deleted tweets and Repost them elsewhere. They just can't use the API to post them on Twitter In a letter to the open-state foundation, which runs politwip politwoops and all of the various accounts I know right We have to say these words over and over that is like whoops and different whoops This is what they wanted Twitter said that after thoughtful internal deliberation and close consideration of a number of factors They decided to block the API access and they said imagine how nerve-wracking Terrifying even tweeting would be if it was immutable and irrevocable No, one user is more deserving of that ability than another indeed deleting a tweet is an expression of the user's voice They're saying let's honor the auteur of the twi of the tweet Our John Alpha said director of the open-state foundation in the Netherlands said what elected politicians publicly say is a matter of public record Even when tweets are deleted. It's part of parliamentary history. This is not about typos It is a unique insight on how messages from elected politicians can change without notice Do you do you side with either one of these Veronica in my opinion? It's a matter of public record and I think Twitter should have stayed out of it personally. I think that this is not it's it's Fair use of the content. I believe I think that it's you know if you are a politician your expectation of privacy is less than that of a private citizen and I think people have a right to know what what they've been tweeting about You know, it's very easy to tell if something has been deleted because it was a typo or if because it was a reversal of Their opinion or reversal of their their standpoint because it was not popular or you know a changing political temperature So that's that's kind of how I'm feeling right now, you know, maybe that would change But if I tweeted about it and I was a public figure, I would expect people to be able to see that Well, and you you are a public figure, right? Of a sort because you you are a personality journalist, etc. That also makes you a public figure. So and So I think super extra careful about everything that I tweet Yeah, that exact reason and politicians do too They you you're telling me the politicians aren't super careful I mean, yeah, they make mistakes and they type things that they realize afterwards. Oh, wait a minute. I misjudged But they're being super careful as well. Here's a side note Talking about the right to be forgotten last week the European Court of Justice Which administers the right to be forgotten rules has said that there could be an exception to refuse link removal for quote People in public life in regards to right to be forgotten So in essence Twitter is being more restrictive than the European Court of Justice by saying we don't care We like they are saying particularly it doesn't matter if you're a public person No one is more deserving of that ability than another to be able to Remove something from the public record, right? And I think it is important We already noted this in the beginning of the discussion that they're still able to archive all of these tweets I mean they are but I archive all of my tweets that I archive all of my replies. I'm weird like that I just like having that on record somewhere for myself So there are these companies are still able to do that these these Twitter accounts and like you said They're also able to repost things because they can copy it into a tweet and repost it any time It's just you lose that kind of that immediacy factor and that automation That I think was was part of the draw to these these types of tweets in a way I don't think that what Twitter is doing here is going to have a material effect Because the tweets that disappear that are most valuable to the public discourse will still be noticed How how many times in just in the tech world forget politics? Have we seen something that was posted on Twitter and then removed because it wasn't supposed to be posted yet Maybe it was an accidental leak or something and you see it on every block because the people watching that beat Capture it before it goes away So yeah, I'm not sure I think it's just important to note that Twitter's kind of sticking their fingers into this kind of stuff and I don't know if it's if it's good for them too I mean, there's certain times and places that maybe they should get involved with this kind of thing But why do it here? Why now? What kind of pressure were they getting? I mean Twitter's come under all kinds of criticism for the way they administer their APIs and blocking third-party Apps that they used to encourage to do one thing in fact Politoops had approval in 2012 to do this very thing They went to Twitter and said we're going to use your API to do this and Twitter said, okay That's fine as long as you're reviewing these and making sure you're not accidentally posting things that aren't politicians and and they were not blocked because of bad behavior they were blocked because Twitter just changed its mind and The Twitter's taken fire for that in all kinds of arenas, but this one in particular It's not even that somebody was making a competing service like Miracat was with Periscope This is just somebody using the API for what the API fundamentally is meant to do like we share things Doesn't this go against everything that Twitter has really wanted to stand for in terms of Transparency and kind of changing the world with open discussion and ideas and and using Twitter as a as a As a force for social change and social good. I mean, maybe this isn't exactly change for social good But I think it's important to you know get that information out there and and be transparent and have that publicly available And if these sites are just making that easier for people, I don't see why that's bad Yeah, and and as we've pointed out a couple of times in this discussion You're not actually removing what they said from the public record if anybody noticed it You're just making it harder to automatically repost this The politics account still exists all 31 of these accounts still exist They just can't use the API to automatically retweet so they didn't lose their posting abilities They just lose the ability to make it easy and that That to me says something more whereas we're Twitter saying we just don't like the idea of this So we're gonna put a speed bump in there even if it doesn't really stop it from happening And I'm not sure why I'm not sure why like if it feels like somebody complained, doesn't it? Oh it absolutely does like well, we can't we can't stop them But we can do this for you at least for you for them to do this Costolo was really against that my request here, but come on Jack. We're buddies. It's a new administration. It's a new Really don't want this at the top of Twitter. I don't know this seems this seems very Athetical to Jack's whole thing throughout the years too. So it's it's weird I mean, I know he's you know potentially not going to be the permanent CEO, but Still it seems like a weird move on there Maybe there's a VP or a product manager who's really wanted to stop polytropes for whatever reason and Dick Costolo wouldn't let him do it Distracted enough that he was like hey, just sign sign off on these we're gonna do these changes here. I don't know. Yeah You never know that's pure speculation But yeah, I feel like I feel like it's not a change that's really going to matter in the long run But it's also an unnecessary change because of that Yes, yeah, that's another instance of my notifications not actually turning off when I tell them to start right We got a pick of the day from Comey who says I carry a small GPS logger device that records my location throughout the day It's specified intervals like every five seconds when I come home I download the log to my PC and save it it has all the benefits of Google Maps timeline Which we were talking about a couple weeks ago Such as helping you remember where you went on a specific date when you went to a specific place But my biggest reason for using that is that it's desktop software can geotag pictures from a non GPS camera It does that by comparing the time stamp of each photo against entries in the GPS log He says here's some other things. I like it keeps logging for almost two days. You don't have to worry about draining your phone's battery There's no privacy concerns because you control it you have all your logs You don't worry about Google changing the features Comey says I've been doing this for five years and it works for me I know I'm geeky and I don't mind carrying another small gadget But it's only about 50 bucks for the can more GP 101 that I use and I used a holux and I got you That's the real name. I go to you in the past prices very depending on the capacity and what features they have Interesting it's life logging. Yeah around one of these things, but they're not that big and they're not that expensive So if it's something you're really interested in but you don't want to give any more data to Google than you have to Or for square or anybody else this this could be an option for you Send your picks to feedback at daily tech news show comm you can find my picks at daily tech news show comm slash picks We have a couple of comments on the right to be forgotten that we've been talking about over the past week By the way, I really enjoyed the conversation that Andrew May and Justin Robert Young and Jenny Josephson had on Wednesday And I don't think I agreed with any of them, but I still but I loved it like it was that's the kind of conversations I want to hear on the show and being In the position of being a listener that day. I was I was psyched by it So I'm glad we're continuing to have this conversation Tyler wrote in and said Your commentator denies the dilemma suggesting the perfect availability of information is an indisputable good And people wanting biographical elements forgotten are only concerned about their feelings and can be ignored No mention was made of the difficulties of say an ex-convict Rightly or wrongly convicted could face in getting a job or the re-traumatizing of a victim of a crime from re-encountering news stories about his or her Past are these reducible to feelings that can be ignored as trivial and then we got a voicemail from Patrick Beja who will be on the show tomorrow But he wanted to share this perspective with us today Hey everyone, you mentioned the right to be forgotten on a couple of shows last week And while I don't want to prolong the discussion definitely I did want to point out one issue which wasn't discussed and I think is pretty essential to the debate And that's the fact that the european or at least the french Government has made google responsible for deciding what should and shouldn't be Deleted from their search results. I think whether or not we agree that the right to be forgotten should exist That's one point where we would probably All agree It's the fact that google might not be the best person and you know private company might not be the best person To decide what should or shouldn't be allowed to be on the internet my two cents. Bye Ah, two euro cents. In fact Uh, good point. Although, I mean, I think why are they implied in an article last week that google could just Reject all requests and wait for the courts to work it out and and not be fine like that would be They could just say well, you'll need you'll need to pass it along to the court of justice Uh, I think google's trying to be a better citizen than that and try to adjudicate these things Which then goes back to patrick's point. Is that the right way to do this? I look at it as something that really doesn't have anything to do with What is true? I mean a lot of people have been talking about like well, you you can you you know What if somebody was wrongly convicted? Well, then there should be a story that is updated that says the person is wrongly convicted That's really not what we're talking about. I feel like a good example of what we're talking about uh 16 year old woman Steals a pack of gum stuffs it in her bra and gets caught and wow we talk about reddit bait, right? That is a story that's going to get buzz-feeted and Upworthied from here until forever 20 years later. She's Gone to school become an investment analyst very successful But still finds it hard to be taken seriously still faces harassment because this story keeps coming up And what she would like is to have that story just not come up in search results for her And that's really to me where right to be forgotten comes from is somebody who says look I just don't want that to yes. It's true, but i'm i'm a very different person than I was when I was 16 I or I've reformed I've changed my life and yet I can't stop that Particular story from following me around can I just get it taken out of the search engine? You don't have to take it down off the sides because it's true. I'm not trying to deny it happen I just don't want my name and remember right to be forgotten is just about name and position It's a very limited search that you're getting removed. I could just don't want my name attached to that story anymore I you know, it's it's that that's the kind of example that I think really Gets me about this because you you feel for the people in that situation But I feel like it's going to be abused in so many other kinds of ways that there's no like I don't know if there's a good Blanket fix for this Well, I guess I had does it have to be case by case and is that is that feasible? Yeah, and well, that's what's going on is it's case by case and it's not terribly feasible But that's what they're doing and to me it feels like the problem is symptomatic It's like saying oh you have a horrible rash Well here, let's cover it with makeup when really what you should just find out what's causing the rash, right? And so it's it's very it could seem very flippant for me to say Society will learn to deal with this as we learn the new reality of this being possible It wasn't possible before but I do think that's true I think people who are growing up in this world where everything you do is it can be logged and permanently recorded Are going to feel differently about that in other people Because they're going to understand well that could easily be me and that's the norm Whereas we who grew up with if you have a story about yourself like that in the public It must have been really bad Because lots of stories like that don't make it into the public. They all make it into the public now. It seems like So I don't I don't know I feel like there's a better solution than hey google remove these You know hey bing remember it's not just google It's any search engine remove these links from your search engine and pretend they didn't happen And that's why I really like jenny's idea of some kind of service that can help you change your search engine ranking It's like seo for individual Reputation reputation on sites like that do that kind of thing for a fee And they can be they could be very effective So maybe there's something to this american life episode about it So maybe there's something that can subsidize those kinds of situations for for certain people I don't know. I don't pretend to know what the answer is but this doesn't feel like the right answer To those situations and this should not be used to whitewash people's past And I think that's a a lot of the complaints about it are like, oh well You're going to get politicians and and when we mentioned earlier in the show they make an exception The european court of justice says no public figures probably shouldn't be able to take advantage of this But yeah, the fact that it's now like you've got to remove the link and you have to remove the link to the Story about the link being removed. It just shows that this is like epicycles in astronomy It's not really addressing the fundamental underlying issue It's almost more effective to just like you said get things removed from the front first page Because the the interest level and the click amount drops so heavily after the first first page of search results That just tweaking the seo for other things can really have have an effect. Yeah, let's drive it down Let's figure out easy ways for average individuals So you don't have to be a social media guru to figure out like this is how I can I can take care of this issue I can tell you a couple A facebook page get an about dot me page. I'm an advisor disclosure, you know get any of these like public facing High seo kinds of sites that are going to come up float to the top of the surface and that way you're driving down Other things that's like the easiest way to to fix that kind of problem Well, it's it's much more complicated after that What if the european commission instead of requiring search engines to do to do a cut and you know a paste up job by removing links uh required search engines to contribute To a service that people take advantage of to take control of their own representation And that would empower people more I feel like and it would it would be the search engines contributing to solving the problem In a better way than just like oh remove the link pretend it's not there right Dave from too damn sunny and not enough rainy, los angeles heard that Dave said He is not that impressed by google's on hub router that was announced last week, but He thinks you know listen up google. He knows how to save your router There's one thing that would get him on board He writes a personal vpn that is easy to set up and provides safe surfing on public wi-fi Plus access to your home network just add a secure vpn button in the companion app that you've already installed and voila You've got a direct line to your home network that is easy to use and keeps your data secure While you're surfing the web at that cd dive bar downtown He said this would make it easy for people to securely use public wi-fi and even just make the average user aware That this type of feature exists Hey, that's genius. Yeah, that'd be cool like make it so that it just doesn't I mean Okay, google wants I just set off somebody's phone google would like You to run your data through their servers, which I think is part of why maybe they didn't think of this idea Or if they did didn't include it Because you don't want that you just want an easy way to vpn through your own Server, but come on that's that's gonna make people want to buy this router and use it more. Don't you think? Yeah, absolutely I'm still I still kind of want to test it out a little bit I do I do want to test it out, but I agree with Dave that there isn't Anything particular about the router That makes me think it has a huge advantage over other router options other current router options But if it gets people to just upgrade their routers, which are sorely out of date on their firmware, maybe maybe that's enough There you go Thank you, dave and thank you everyone who wrote in also really before we go a huge thanks to everyone who filled in last week All of the contributors jenny josephson brice castillo roger chang producing the shows It was it was a fantastic week I enjoyed being a listener even though I was working hard I was able to catch the shows either later or in one case live because I had a little bit of a break And it was enjoyable and I hope you guys enjoyed the show too. I thought they were they were fantastic So big thanks to everybody for filling in last week, and I hopefully won't have to take another one of those big long breaks for a while Unless you have a nice vacation Well, yeah, but I want to take a vacation when we always take a break at the end of december anyway, right? Then people then we just prerecord shows Huh, well, what else are they paying you for you lazy block the show? Stop it We prerecord that's when we get the predictions episode and all that cool stuff That's coming at the end of the year. Uh, thank you veronica belmont twitter.com slash veronica go watch dear veronica It is a fantastic show and I say that even Beyond the fact that it's my friend veronica doing it's just a good show in gadget.com slash dear dash veronica What's coming up there? Oh, we've got some good ones. We've got the the guys from my brother my brother and me answering a question Um, we've got what else do we got? Well, we've got some stuff on guided meditation coming up, too So I'm really I'm doing a full episode on on unplugging and kind of reconnecting with yourself and not feeling so Frazzled about our technology over laden lives. So I'm excited about that. Yeah, good advice You get good advice. That's why you should go watch it and gadget.com Thank you to our bosses. I met some great folks in detroit Last week a bunch of people came out to a meet-up that larry patruchin I had and it was fantastic Some of the best people in the world live in detroit and big thanks. I think it was jerry who brought me the, uh, tony packos Pickles as well as the mug Tony packos if you're a mash fan, you get it. It's a clinger thing Really really enjoyed my time in detroit One of the coolest things was I met a guy who's a chef at the veteran's center at the meet-up And then the next day was the next day or the next day after that I was out shooting in this area north of, uh, kamaraca park and he's walking down the road. He's like, hey, tom It's like small town feel the middle of detroit. That's great. Hey chef. What's up? So anyway, thank you to those bosses and all the people who make the show possible If you would like a mug, I can't get you a tony packos mug But I can't get you a dts mug go to daily tech news show dot com slash store Big thanks to everyone who supports the show You can find all those ways the store the patreon everything at daily tech news show dot com slash support Our email address is feedback at daily tech news show dot com. You can give us call 51259 daily That's 51259 32459 listen to the show live money through friday 4 30 p.m. Eastern at alpha geek radio dot com and visit our website daily tech news show dot com We'll be back tomorrow with patrick beija talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants dot com Diamond club hopes you have enjoyed this brover boom Boom great show. What should we call it? Oh, I have a good calling I mean, I think I know what we're gonna call it. But really the only one could be That battery dough Do we do dat battery dough or that that dat battery though? Hmm. I don't know I take your cue on that. What is more appropriate? Showbot the person on showbot. That's dr. Payne wrote dat battery dough But then lower down. We've also got dat battery though and Yeah, we've got what devy's got us one and ken from chicago with the alternate pronunciations He said dat battery dough. So I feel like the top Would be dr. Payne. Well, is it doe or doh Dr. Payne says doe Ken from chicago says doh. Let's see. What is the what is the meme really say though? I think we should turn to know your meme for this three Yeah, I think we should oh someone did did nobody do Pollot whoops there it went No Well, yes dough was the original pronunciation, but I don't know if it's the correct pronunciation I see more results for doe than doh Dat though See on on search results for know your meme Yes. Oh, it's okay. It's both are accepted. Oh Doe Doe is acceptable Yes, I believe so Uh, though looks a little more popular the memes Urban dictionary. Thank you. Dr. Payne. Uh has dat blank dough doe Yes, an entry for dat blank dough an alternate spelling for that dat though was added to urban dictionary into memory team all right So it looks like the more common spelling is though tho So let's go with that dat battery though tho so all right. I feel bad for dr. Payne, but you know Well, no, dr. Payne still gets the gets the credit right he gets the win. Yeah, okay Even though w scottis one, I think w scottis one gets to share in the credit Okay, yeah Okay, w scottis one gets the I wrote it accurately credit dr. Payne gets the I got more votes credit How's that good All right, uh, yeah, I should probably levelate this thing, huh? How do you do this? How do you produce this show? Price did it last week, yo That neshcom dough That neshcom That neshcom was awesome I got to go back to my true identity as an editorial producer Woot Yeah There it is well I'm levelating. What are you guys up to? Um before who is in know your meme? Yeah, me too. I got lost click hole Yeah See w scottis one said he will gladly share the victory with dr. Payne. Yay. Good job. Dr. Payne said w scottis one We did it And ellie ellie just smiled and and and it looks cute. She's so cute. There she is There she is All right, I have to bring this forward now Look at her being cute I mean really eventually Especially if we hit the video goal this show will just be showing ellie. I know it'll evolve That baby dough that baby will speak That baby dough and then ellie will grow up and they'll be like, oh, well, she's not a baby anymore. Not one like not interested Roger will just have to have another baby ellie I'll make you the godparent of the second one. So you take it for half the year What I'll make you the godparent for the second one so you can take him or her for half the year Okay, that's the tradition in the chang family Is that so the godparent of the second child Must shoulder the burden for half a year at a time. Yeah I would love a time shared baby. That would be terrific. That would be terrific Yeah, that's disrupts adding to great startup idea. I know No time to raise a real family Airbnb I would like to think list now the all 6125 ways that could go wrong And I really want it But then you could have like the christmas photos It's like, well, yeah, that's my that's my uh air b and b or whatever air baby and b Air b and baby got it done Excuse me. I spent time uh hiking Yosemite with my children, but you don't have any That's my uber baby uber baby uber but for babies uber baby buggy bumpers Oh, there it is Time sure baby equals baby sitting says gun from chicago Where they pay you that's not how you sell it you don't sell it that way You sell it as a time share You deem you deemphasize the the pain of responsibility and upsell the joy What are you laughing at peanut? It's not funny What do you laugh about? Don't eat that So hungry. I want to burrito so bad. I think that I think that's the thing that's gonna make me feel better I don't think yoga today. I think burrito I'm still for burrito yoga Do you keep any like ready to eat foods in the fridge? Yeah, you're not like me go to Trader Joe's and pack up on 20 different frozen. No, not anymore I got too much stuff. I got to get through I'm class any fresh foods A lot of salmon So are you going to order a burrito brought to you by some disruptive service or are you going to go get it I should really walk somewhere. Yeah To the mission you're pretty close. I am. Hey, don't don't geolocate me. Oh, I'm sorry You're in san Francisco. You're in somewhere near there's a burrito place. I'm definitely somewhere close to a burrito somewhere Did you see how close the contender game is to 100,000? Can we just discuss how amazing that is? Yeah, he's doing great So doesn't mean we don't have to pay Justin anymore No, that's fantastic And and not surprising to me in any way. I feel like that's that's like the world being just Yeah, I saw it get written up on um Boing boing and boing boing Not sorts of places. Yeah I hope Justin remembers us when he becomes the next cards against humanity He's super cool and famous. Yeah I'm not sure if he remembers us Cards against humanity I'm super cool and famous. Yeah Yeah, oh, hey guys Hey, remember me. I was in your wedding. Hmm. No Where are you again? It was a busy dragon con for me Dragon con is coming up Oh boy Oh my god, it's gonna be a good time Dts will not be after dark this year I know that will please a few people but probably disappoint a bunch It will be At around the regular time. I think it's a four o'clock eastern. So just a half hour early Good And tom we have to talk about other convention things Yes For short or my schedule's so damn tight Yeah, that's what She said That is not what no, that's what I said That's not what she said What the what oh man, there's a takeover ad on soundcloud What like where they take over the background with an ad Oh gross I can't even tell what it's for Hey Jen, do you need me to handle the archive video? If you want to you can do it every day for the rest of time I'm just asking I need to figure out what I need to get done Uh, if that works for you, that sounds great because it allows me to go on to the other thing I just immediately rose. I forgot to do Okay I've got that problem too. I guess I'd rather much rather have that problem than not enough jobs I'm not complaining. Yeah I agree That vocal fry though Can I get some vocal fries with that? Stop it. You're scaring my kid right discourse here, please I'm a vocal fry cook So getting so bad makes sense. I don't even make any sense So tell me tell me in all honesty Veronica. Did the show cheer you up? Yeah, a little bit What about the baby and the baby no you guys do cheer me up Just I have to send back my I have to send back my computer Why do you have to figure out what's wrong with it? Oh, roger. Don't even get me started. Oh, you know what? It's if you have a if you have a yufi motherboard, it might be an issue Everyone who hears this I don't care when I don't care if it's right now on Monday or later Uh at reply Veronica a picture of a smiling animal of some sort That's already been happening Yeah, could be a unicorn could be an alligator. I don't whatever whatever you gave me that would cheer me up Just um, so I have to get this thing to get this thing to FedEx But my printer is no longer recognizing the wi-fi. So now I have to figure out how I'm going to print the package slip I thought it was turned off and turned on again. Oh, you're right. Ryan did fix that. You're right. That got fixed problem solved I'm so mad at that work. I'm so mad. I hate I that made me even more angry I was more angry after being fixed by the way it was fixed than having it still be broken So Yeah That's just one of those days. It's one of those days. I was born ready Hey, did you or are you gonna play patrick's thing after? No, I played it in the show. You did. Yeah, he did. When did I miss that? I was briefly on the phone. You made me doubt myself for a second. I'm like, I did. No, you definitely played it You definitely did for for some weird reason. I got like three calls from my stockbroker today. I don't really know why This one guy keeps posting the same thing on all my posts on my public facebook wall, which is Do you like country music? Do you want kids? Do you only speak and understand english? That sounds like a bot The loudest Veronica Belmont I've ever heard It's not even full. It's not even a full volume. It's me I like oh, but he will have to be the intro to a show like that plays and then you go and That's me. That's me I twitch Oh, you guys so many animals that are smiling. I love you. Yay Even the smiling sloth No bunny with his tongue sticking out The smiling fox It's working The cat's not smiling, but it looks pretty funny If you guys don't need me anymore, I'm gonna take off and feed her. Okay. Yep. Thanks, roger Burrito, that's important. No, I have to feed her formula. She can't eat solid formula burritos Veronica Belmont destroyer of your drums. It's me Veronica Belmont. That's me The funniest thing that the funny the thing that makes me laugh the most on twitter is sam sikes whenever he just tweets. It's me I don't know something about that. He just tweets. It's me nothing else I just I don't know why I think that's so funny What what what is it again? It's me He just says it's me. Yeah, that's all he says the whole tweet is just him saying it's me. It's me I'm here. This isn't me. It's me What does twitter say when you're actually on the website? I'm so rarely ever on the website I love the website. I love the website much more than I love the app. I just use the app tweet I use tweet bot But I love the the notifications on the web are so much better Why use tweet deck for notifications and they are pretty great. It's not the it's not that kind of notifications No, I mean like things that have been retweeted or favorited the number of people that kind of stuff. It's much more Information filled But you can get that in tweet deck too It's just different whatever Tom So all it says now is compose new tweet Merit Ha ha You have one too. It's you. It's me It's you Okay What now so Yes, Robert. I like the website problem I like the website cannot lie The other websites can't deny when a tweet walks in with an itty bitty space and 140 characters in your face in your face I want to see you get out of this. Let's see you get out of this one Tom Get out of this one thoughts sprung See the thought because he wrote it down Thoughts Thought sprung in your face you get thoughts I like big thoughts I don't have a jingle Ian because I wasn't on the show with the people that make the jingles Yeah, that was Veronica and I guessing on a particular show long time ago Oh, yeah, internet artifact and then of course I stole this one From Lamar himself My laugh sounded very fake it wasn't meant to Ah All right, um, that's it. It's good to be back Thanks for not all leaving Yeah, really I second that and I mean you too Jenny All right, let's see it tomorrow everyone. Bye y'all