 Just looking, you will note in your agenda that there are, they're not hard and fast limits, but I'm going to, I'm going to do better jobs, chair and timekeeper to keep an eye on the clock. I think we've spilled past quarter of nine last time, or we really, we like to, we like to be done with a little past date, but sometimes there's big stuff to do. This is too good. Yeah, we'll blame the pizza. Don't blame it on public comment. Any either live remote or through co-directors. No public comments. All right. Moving on to item three and I'm glad it's early because then we can have more voting members. Yes, as I said, otherwise CJ Chad and David have to do all the heavy lifting tonight because that's a chair. I don't vote unless it's Tigray. So third item is, is to vote on the board candidates. The last round, I don't know if we just want to honor how we did it last time, both Chad and Rachel came on as a pair. We actually voted them in as a team. We just thought in terms of like one other than another one, I see a little like unnecessary. So I could accept the emotion to nominate a slate of three candidates, Palin, Pat and Jess. Yeah, or are you definitely the motion to nominate a three to June? Appreciate Chad so nominates. And we would need a second for such a question as well. Looks like there's some in the chat. Yeah, we're down Carlos. So I'll second it. Thanks, Dave. Seconds and we've heard from all three of you last time, but we could extend discussion or I could call the vote to people, I don't know. And in scouring through people's resumes, have any questions or people just your floor is open before the vote and I'll I will seem like some of them are more qualified than the rest of us have me climbing down the ladder relevant to skills. OK, sounds like a little bit of a pre-accumulation or I'll just call the question. It sounds quiet. All of those in favor of a welcoming Palin, Pat and Jess, kids who don't be a work of media board. These indicate by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Do we have CJ on here? Aye. She definitely has an airplane icon. Yes, we do. I don't know how to vote. Did we hear her voice earlier before I got here? No. I haven't heard her. So she's dialing the messages she dialed in. It looks like a dial in. Yeah, there's two things. Can we hear her and do we know if she hears us? I'm sorry, I assume when I saw her, I thought we had clicked on and we were have we established contact or is that I just got the message from her. So and what does it actually say? Hi, host, the Zoom was giving me a message that I am listed as attending as a guest. Just letting you know. I mean, can she hear? Yeah, are you able to show I texted her and I'm chatting with her. So I mean, it would actually pass whether or without her, but let's get a clean vote. Because that's how we do it. Great. Well, no, I'm sorry. I wish if there's one thing that as a favor, if I could get like the old notes as like open on guessing to. Yeah, yeah, you know where they're going? Oh, I don't need to do it now. Yeah, it would be hard. So probably. And then we can send it like a lazy video. No, no, that's that's that's that's a Christian. We call it Christian. Then do you know where the minutes are stored? I can pull them up and then from room. Um, no, I was going to say, because he's on Google Drive. So what I'm going to do is just now that I have my mouse on my side. There you go. In my link. Yeah, so. Yeah, there you go. Is that your disease and that is a template? You mean? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, one general idea. I'm actually and you may want to also as we solve the closing out of this vote wouldn't hurt to take a look at the minutes of our June meeting and just because we will be in these minutes sort of the type of any inaccuracy. And then you know, just keep us posted on the. Oh, next to the key, but now we don't have that space. Everyone's busy reading less and just do. If it does trigger a thought and maybe something for all business, we really don't want to rediscuss the items. It's just that. Did we successfully document the items? It's the question. So so we've lost our public kind of mentors. We didn't lose them. We just have there were some that were sometimes longing to be with us. Oh, you remember some regular ones? Yeah, I think that we when we were at the center, we had some regulators. Yeah, I like the addition of the little target times on here. Yes, I agree. Yeah, that's helpful to me. I think you're in an arrange. You gain five minutes with the public. And we're sort of a little different right now. We're a little ahead of us also. Sorry. We've got to dispel your name. So this is why I like to use the template. It's high before you. Oh, I'm not. Right. Meeting. Yeah. Three three three three three three three. Yeah. It's not. What are you? Oh, my last name. Oh, okay. Oh, your name. Yeah, I guess. One of the things about. Yeah. I think it depends on. German versus like. I could write a friend who's like. I mean, Oh, I don't know. Yeah. Well, my name is Dutch. So that may be different. You're knowledgeable about them. Yeah. I thought it made a difference whether you were weird or not. Yeah. I think it's the other way to experiment. Yeah, right. Yeah. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that, but I think it's just versus Jeremy. So. Nothing from you. No, I texted on here again. Yeah. So the fact that our icon you're reading, she must have called in. Yeah. Yeah. able to hear me? Yeah, we are. Finally, yes. All of a sudden, you're in the middle of the table. It's my first time speaking, I've just been listening. So, CJ, it's a bit about you're coming in, actually, in the midst of a vote. I don't know what you heard. But because I heard that you're, what I heard is that you're proposing to, I think I heard that you're proposing to accept all new board candidates on a single vote as a slate. Yes, in the tradition of Rachel and Chad's edition. And that the vote was actually called. I assumed you were, you were active and live, your icon is up. And we've got, we've got a vote. And are you a yay or abstain? I'm an A. Thank you. Thanks everybody for joining and being willing to serve. By acclimation, much appreciated the, the expertise and breadth of skill sets just just increased immeasurably. So thank you so. We'll try not to make this volunteer position too much of a burden, but it's happy to have your fires, you know, a little heart and a little time. And yeah, is it actually by. So when you now can do things like move to approve the minutes, which is our next item for the June 27 minutes, CJ, we didn't lose too much time because I just requested that people peruse those June minutes. And we did catch a type of with Chris's name. And it's basically floors open for any other catches people have. There is there's one cleanup necessary. Are there more people catch any other? Oh, grammatical spelling in your back. That's a rare, a rare find. Yeah, I'm gonna have to abstain. Believe it or not, I don't recall discussing a recommendation from Edward Jones to shift from the CDs into more bonds. And so I'm going to go back and have to believe it or not. I'm gonna have to go back and check with Mark Gwynn on that. That's from section five financial reports section B. So I'm just going to request that that I, you know, I be allowed to abstain on this section at least and come back with a with a review and you always can. Yes. B, which one two one through five is there's particular one or all of the two? So it's number. Yes, number two. Got you. Okay. None of that was binding, right? It was just that I know you're capturing a conversation. Correct. Yeah, you're just catching a conversation. And I'm like, holy cow, maybe it's early senility, but I'm sourced that recommendation. Maybe that's the issue. But something like that is like, Oh, yeah, we need a noun to go at that. We need to turn recommendation the noun into a verb and get find out who actually made that recommendation. No, he wasn't in the meeting. And so it's a quote of me stating that there's a recommendation. And I apologize but because I, you know, these are beautifully presented. I am simply drawing a complete blank. I don't recall that recommendation. And you could you could suggest we strike it or abstain either or. But right now we have a typo on Chris's last name. Any others? Sure, if we could move to strike number two, or I can just that'd be nice and clean. Thanks. All right, we will strike number two. And it's still, you know, nicely done chat. We still capture a nice robust conversation. If there's no other catches people want to add to the pile, I could entertain the motion to accept these minutes with an expanded board. We could share the wealth below. Who wants to make the first motion, their lives on the move to accept? Yeah. All right, CJ is so moved. And we need a second. I take them. Thank you. Okay, we've got a motion and a second to accept the June 27 2023 minutes. All those in favor, please indicate by saying hi. Hi. Hi. And oppose. And abstainers unnecessary with the striking. That's unanimous. And I just asked for certainly yes, yeah, that's an important discussion that you were having. Should it be flagged for so we don't forget it? Because it says recommend Edward Jones to begin to shift funds from which we have at some point, you should bring it back to agree that that's exactly right. Thank you for like, I hate to have that job, right, but not using the approval of the minutes to have the conversation, but to tag it for old business. CJ may touch upon it in the treasured report. And I do know myself, CJ, Mark, and my Doyle are planning to meet. So in terms of like the drop off, I just wouldn't hate to see it. No, that's, that's really important. Things do read minutes, it does jock memories. And then it's like, Oh, yeah, we got to make sure we follow through on that. And that often drops in old business. But then they pop up sooner. Let's see. Now moving, I got to get back to today's agenda. Yeah, item number five is financial reports, which is shared between CJ and usually to Jim. That's you guys got that one two punch coming up. So CJ, do you want to start or do you want me to start? And you go ahead and then I'll follow up. Thank you for asking. So I'm just, you know, the budget versus the budget versus actuals. There's, I think the only thing that in terms of where we are, we're pretty good on everything. The salary was a little bit high. And I wrote that in the Code Rockers report that it just was an extra payday that got paid out on the 30th. And so normally it'd be like spread out. So it'll be fine. It's just three pay here. It's got paid out in June. And that's where kicked us over in a short month. That's fine. Just spell that one. So I think and then outside of that, I think we're on the, I think we're doing okay on everything else. Is there any questions about the budget numbers? Can I ask a question on advertising? You spent a year to date. What is it? I can't even see my God. $15, but you have 2600 set aside. It's a budget. Just curious what the plan was for the 2700 and I think with advertising, it was whether we were going to do some like for the summer, the general items that we do advertising for are the summer camps and the like we have any jobs or camera operators. So we've been pretty good about not having to purchase any advertising for jobs. And I think with the summer camp by like flagging all the like schools and stuff, we were able to get enough campers to be able to have that. So we didn't need to. I don't want you to spend it. That's quite a difference. So let's go. So those are I think where the advertising and then it could be like later on for if we're doing other maybe other programs that we might need advertising for. So I think that's where we just kind of thanks you. That's a nice catch. And actually 60 40 right above it outreach is actually over. Yeah. And some of the you know, some advertising and our expense it could be quite similar. They are and it could be that and then there's some where it's it's I think and I'm trying to remember how it gets separated out like the camera operators are for that would go in advertising like if we didn't add for the meeting might go into outreach. So it's but and I think it's also I think it's been in the past kind of like blue wood in terms of like if we ran out of money in outreach that we might like bounce into the advertising budget. And so but generally I think an outreach also has our digital programming. So that's a monthly fee that we pay grace note to do the digital programming on the papers. So that's always going to be in like there's a set amount that's always going to come out of outreach. So if there's anything else that might be extra that it may be in there but generally we're hoping that it should be roughly about the same that because so much of it goes to that to the grace note and the digital programming cards. Thanks a lot's catches questions. It's sounding quiet for chin. CJ you want to treasure his update? We were going to meet before tonight. But it looks like it will be after sorry say that again. Jen is just shared out the budget. And we had some questions and it got quiet. So additions from the treasure. Yep. So from the treasure. The main key points is that from that year to date our overall account is up about two and a half percent plus or minus. I sent an email to my body with a summary. And we're looking forward to meeting with Mark Gwin at Edward Jones. And I've sent up an email requesting that meeting. The rough breakdown of assets is about eight percent in cash or cash equivalents. Those would include the money market and the ladder CDs which we entered into just prior to the last board meeting. We were fortunate to get rates that average around five percent. And the ladder CDs mean laddering means that we make the investments all at the same time. But we buy CDs that mature at different rates. So one amatures at three months. One matures at six months etc. I want to compliment the management team for identifying the fact that due to COVID there was a large sort of rainy day COVID bonus in the company's sort of normal everyday account. We investigated together what the interest rate yield was because it was a significant six figure amount. We discovered that the yields there were less than one percent and therefore taking something that six figures and moving it over where it makes five percent produces an extra thousands of dollars of yield. And so Jen was the one that said hey we had this discussion should we do something different. And we investigated and that led to this positive development. So just want to recognize the teamwork and the initiative. To continue the breakdown there's the normal cash stuff rolls over. And then this is where the confusion may have come from. The normal yields of our investments do roll over and get reinvested. That's how they're set up. But the the ladder CDs that is a different matter. And so right now we're in about a little over 50 percent bonds and bond funds about 30 about sorry about 42 percent equity equivalents and these are pretty conservative. And then the remaining is cash and cash equivalents. The guidance of the board to Mike Doyle and now to myself has been you know these are this is operating stuff. So you know it's produced last board meeting we discussed the fact that it had produced at between six and seven percent average in the 20 or so years since Mike Doyle initiated this strategy of let's take the money that we have that we don't need right now and put it into conservative investments and that has turned out well for work. That concludes my report other than to say that as Mike Abadi said we're looking for a meeting time for Mike Abadi Mike Doyle myself and Mark Gwynn to follow up. And that concludes my report. Any questions or comments? The floor is open. Discussion points questions. Just to that if we're ready to move on I would accept the motion to accept the financial report. I move to accept the report as presented. Thank you Pat and is there a second for further discussion? Second. Thank you. So we have a motion and a second to accept the financial report. All those in favor please indicate by saying aye. Aye. Aye. And vote. And I see unanimous. Much appreciated folks. I would do pretty well with our timeline yes. Can I just could I have one secretary's pause please. I just want to indicate in the the minutes the new members names and I'm chairable I'm remembering people's names and spell them. So I would love to get that in here correctly. Okay do you want me to just message you right now with the names and then you can have them the copy and paste. Yeah I'm not sure where you would send it to on this computer. Is there a document that I can hack into that he's on? So yes it's if you go into the board packet folder there's draft minutes and it's August so if you go into our board packet folder for now you know. What's the name of the document? Right. Board meeting. draft minutes agenda August 29th. That's actually a really good housekeeping item because getting we have a board contact page, number email and then knowing whether your phone number is textable or not and if you'd prefer to email. So we have. You want to email you are stuff really stuff. You might have it off. You got it out. You know what happened. She may be able to build it right. It seems we may not need you to actually write anything on. I got it right here. So it's I'm just gonna it's right here. Contact sorry to contact it. It just needs to get on me. Somehow you everybody everybody page. I was like so I guess you know what goes mommy. Be good as which email would be the best one because I think we have to go for Vermont versus. Let's do both of them out. That's more my business. I'll just give you the names to start it sorry so yeah sorry I'm sorry it's in quicker board. I couldn't find it just by searching. Oh okay. Do you want me to just bust in there then? Yeah go ahead. I will use the names. We don't have one. Okay. So what are they doing that? Can I just ask a question? It's my learning learning curve. Yeah they'll give you how do does this board and the worker stack up with other boards and then in the order of the public access world. Do we ever look to see how others are doing have a reason for these what others are doing and financially what their status is. I think a lot of those conversations happen in van. Yeah I I don't know. I mean I think we're like in terms of transparency our board meetings go right right up on YouTube right and I'm surprised like this thing has 20 kids already it's been up two days I'm like somebody's watching. I was talking to Zachary Evans at Franklin County. They have got a studio knock your socks off. Yeah they built nudes in that here. Oh it's it's it's stunning. Yeah and I was just wondering when I come back here and I'm like how how did they do that and maybe there's something we we could learn from from where they get their finances and resources because it is I would use in there make it my home. I mean it's it's stunning. Yeah I remember when they posted pictures when they had their grand opening but I've never been. Yeah I was on a show up there one time and it was the whole thing was the studio everything. What did it replace that do you know. Yes it was an old studio in town itself and I don't know the name of the building but it was old and it was needed it certainly could have used some improvement but this was improvement plus it was just way beyond. Do they have a grand opening or something. I don't know I just can go to the band and I don't know if they discuss that sort of like do we want to keep three quarters operating in reserve or a year and a half learning how it works in the public. Yeah we do I mean so that's like a kind of a I think a pretty unique situation most they must have got most of the AMO's are renting spaces. I did reach out initially when we were kind of just brainstorming the ideas of real estate and real estate when we're talking about our reserves and I reached out to what is his name Matt Northwest Access Fall. He's on the fan board as well and yeah he explained their situation but I have it in writing somewhere and it was pretty unique yeah and but they it was similar they had a chunk of money and they basically they took out a mortgage and they built a building. They sure spent it well. Yeah yeah definitely yeah and there's not I think I did a little polling I think there's two of the 24 that own a building or you know so it's pretty yeah yeah I'm just curious. I think the other ones are in Springfield and they bought a house that they've been in for 10 years and they came up for sale and they ended up buying it in 1999. Well this is yeah everybody has a chance to go up there. Which one are you talking about? In Franklin County. It's basically a safe home. Yeah it might be yeah because that's where they had their their original offices or studio. We have a picture of it right on their home screen. I mean it's a cool nice brand new space for months. Yeah nice building. They don't have to share it with anybody. They don't share with anybody. It's theirs. So actually a little work of right our move from city center to here. I think our rent went down near to the third. I just missed the beer after the show. It's a good question in that if the rent is high enough to offset the cost of a mortgage. There you go. Nice. And we know we you know no one's predicting anything about BCFA but we may be making decisions again where we are physically. So you know about Greenway sale? Yeah yeah in terms of figuring out what to do with these buildings there. Yes. The architecture so we can talk about that. It's going to be that's probably in the next in the hour we were to pause. Now my memory is that we did accept the financial reports prior to the pause and so we're in the code record. All right. I'm going to try to breeze through this as well. What's my time on here? 20 minutes. We may have a video that we wanted to play. You have that. Yeah and if people have questions don't feel like oh geez 10 minutes I can't ask the question. Sure. That's usually how we do it. Yeah maybe for our new folks with the co-directors report we typically lay out what's been going on the last two months and then when we do it live we typically just hit some of the highlights and exciting things that maybe you might want some clarification around or something like that but if you do read something that I didn't mention feel free to stop me as well. So if you all don't know we've been partnering with the city Montpelier live and Montpelier Foundation as part of this efforts to host a series three series of three forums called the resiliency and recovery in Montpelier forums and so that we've been actively engaged with the kind of coordination and production and it's been great. So the first one took place up here at VCFA and that was a full hybrid live stream with Zoom and it was live on the channel and you can see we put some numbers in there we had YouTube viewers at 4.67 which was pretty good so and there's a ton of people there we had we also did live audio which was interesting and it went pretty well. Yeah even everything it went really well. The next one was even kind of a bigger thing you can see here that we did an all hands on deck we had 10 staff we had five concurrent live streams nine total meetings that we covered and it was just all at the same time all throughout the breakout sessions nine breakout sessions and all the other things are our scheduled date they needed. Right so that's why we that's why we had to push the meeting three of us. Yeah it was pretty wild but also went off pretty smoothly and then the third one is planned so this is actually incorrect that we just found out that it's going to be at the high school next week and so the third forum will be a kind of a voting on priorities for us what we've heard and we're meeting tomorrow Zach and I are going to the high school at the end of the day to look at the space to talk about the production needs and figure out what our plan is. Yeah so that's that's been huge. Yeah so you can have live stream online on the seventh as well. Yeah so there's it's been when that one might go back to the full hybrid live stream would zoom in youtube and probably to the channel since it is more straightforward similar to the first one that kind of middle one with all the breakout sessions was a little bit. That's tough to do. That was yeah yeah so it wasn't so straightforward to send one right feed to the channel so we could probably go back to the channel. What's the date of the high school? The seventh. Yeah. You say it involves some voting like from the prior time? Yeah yeah like you've got all these things. Yeah Just to if you didn't know how the format was it was basically like the birds eye view was like everybody was welcome to come and it was like what do you care about what do you think the city should embark on moving forward and you know 300 people were there were 500 people were in the room 300 people were on zoom and everyone had ideas and it was awesome it was pretty positive too I think and then they kind of took it all in and then they digested it and then the second forum they were like okay here's the things that we think people are kind of interested in let's get a little bit more specific and then they kind of came out of that second meeting with more even more kind of recommendations and then now they're going to take everything from online take everything that people have been writing up take all the stuff in the meeting and then be like what do what are these final this final group want to vote on for priorities then it's all this kind of like third party that's facilitating it and then they're going to recommend something and where does the where does the recommendations go to the city council I guess no that's a good question it's probably going to everybody yeah I think we all um this foundational institution they know I don't know um complete something kind of report yeah then it will come to a city council it's a great idea they have a poll so good at this yeah Paul's been great and that's his that's a shtick I laughed when they said they were going to do breakout because I've never imagined a meeting with Paul without a breakout session that's his thing oh really yeah I was glad that he finally got to do his breakout session yeah so there's tablets right yeah yeah so they will combine all of them so I uh actually a time in both zoom on and um YouTube like leaving thing zoom is better I think because I can like write write away yeah when when I was watching um through YouTube I felt like it's just kind of um I felt myself excluded from the conversation everything it's like watching a movie right but with zoom you feel like oh I'm in the room right because you can just uh engage that's totally yeah and we did hear that actually from a number of people that were also in the room and like uh who had uh different accessibility issues and they were like you know zoom by default has better captioning than YouTube as well so yeah and it is a little bit more immediate with the chat and the response I think that they had a difficulty as far as them having to hold the breakout sessions through zoom and manage them they weren't they kind of they just weren't they were unsure and they went with you yeah you were great your part was great it's just the I think technology like digital talk right uh this three institution um that's good to use but I I felt that soon it's better like more interactive that's good I can see that everybody yes during the meeting of course it is difficult to read all the comments but they're they're written right and then you download that too yeah and that was what that was I think was so great about the first one too yeah is there a compilation of all the ideas from all the form yeah I I mean ideally yes I think it's kind of dive right there's another thing that was uh Katie Trout's I call up and Katie Trout so what happened I feel like Montpelier at the Montpelier Foundation and Paul Custill I think he's got it all and I'm hoping yeah like that it's probably they may not have a final document till form three so he's got all that data and then form three we'll have more and hopefully there'll be some and I think all the padlets are still available yeah that was a really cool kind of the pad list and look at the raw data and we have the videos available if you wanted to watch them so he's going to have to have something for the third form because people are going to have to reference yeah what was that right so yeah there's been a lot of recommend we actually had some recommendations from like our accessibility oh yeah which is awesome yeah whatever happened to the old ideas that they had about 10 years ago well that's another conversation that's going to be a lift from national life to come downtown that sounds great yeah I remember I remember that I do as he looks at me the older person and where'd that go yeah she's going so I mean I just didn't know those I resurrected an old idea and almost got killed again about dredging the rivers began I know the anr thing you know but there's a way to dredge because they that dredging wasn't always there it moved there so there must be a way to under anr supervision to dredge and make more room for the water well you guys got to get on the padlock oh I did that that's what it's for so hopefully anr to come to my house and beat my daughter is our are you two capturing a meeting also capture do you read is it are the zoom comments readable along the side or no that's you'd have to go somewhere yeah so I think like the first time where it was where we were facilitating their zoom like it was so much I think there was a lot of chatter on the chat so it's like we could have it as open and like kind of like there to be viewed so that's always an option just like here we've got it like that so we could livestream that so it comes to whether it but it's also I think information like in terms of like their login information so I don't know about like privacy like if you're like what you would feel comfortable with so that's where maybe it's a little research by yes there before yeah which is also I think like some of the issue with you could hypothetically also comment on youtube but that's not really that's like notoriously faulty and full of bots so yeah yeah the zoomers are true participants yeah exactly they have to write at least somewhat log in into the name yeah so there's some yeah so that's been great and y'all should tune in or attend on seven much like a coveted showing us to be an essential service yeah and I think that that's we felt very we yeah we got a little live thank you from Paul at the end and in the big group and so there's been a lot of yeah a lot of gratitude has been shown to our media for our support and our yeah yeah it's awesome yeah so I'll move to the outreach and community partnerships section so we had a successful summer July was beyond the everything that was happening in July we also had the week of the Vermont use documentary lab and we had the week of the make tv camp actually from back the Vermont use documentary lab the flood happened during that week and that we kept going it's a good day off and came right back so the the students in both weeks produce some really great work and I think we have a clip to share maybe I'll finish this little section here but the other thing is that is worth mentioning is that Peter Hirschfeld and Bob Kinzel have been temporarily squatting professionally squatting in our offices here from Vermont public so you know some greats some statewide you know the the mobblier I guess they're the state house journalists state house reporters and they're here now until September so that's been really great to help them out they're office couple yeah they're office couple at a downtown mobblier and they've been up here ever since so that's been nice to be able to help them out and they also you know it was nice they made a donation to orphan media and Peter Hirschfeld will be our guest speaker at Thursday's annual meeting so that'll be nice he'll say some kind words towards your you've got Bob here Bob and Peter switched so Bob is out actually with some family and thank you stuff yeah so um yeah so Peter over here yeah so we could click uh cut to the video if you want or we can do it at the end of the report oh so I was like that is the make tv one I don't think I have any document oh that's fine yeah yeah but you can share it yeah we'll be showing that stuff I was like we can show it at the end so yeah let's do it again um so then moving to that strategic plan um as you know our uh other are not our new folks but uh are we've been just embarking on this strategic plan and we paused it um because we were so excited to uh have some new board members and so uh we've done some kind of like back-end work and we put together some some documents but we uh we paused the work with our consultant Nathan Souter and we're hoping to uh step back into that with the new board members instead of we can have everyone's full uh participation and the next uh step would be tentatively a board retreat that would be like a longer meeting where we would really uh look at our our goals and objectives and you're kind of starting to rewrite our mission statement a little bit and we're kind of taking ourselves into modernity I was like you do have a you do have it on the agenda so oh sorry I was gonna say yes so yeah yeah we'll we'll come right back to that then I can ask something yeah if it is very naive questions uh please bear with me the longer version oh alliance for oh sure alliance for community media yeah that's you right back that's fun yeah so uh alliance for community media is um the new national uh group that uh kind of advocates for and unites the community media centers and public access TV organizations are on the country so thank you yeah uh Zach attended the the annual conference in brooklyn just so how many states are represented um how many states I'm not sure I'm not every I don't know if it was every state but I almost all of them but there's people from Hawaii and Alaska where do we pay dues to ACM you know yeah are they just going up are they going up I was like I don't remember a noticeable increase I think we in our budget we put it in the dues and it was just a regular increase that we put in but I haven't seen like anything as much as like the dues for the band folks yeah the band I have probably noticed we got a more so but not I don't think so I think it's been are there minutes of that annual meeting are there minutes of the annual or some compilation that they turn out at the end of the path to brooklyn I don't really like the seeds of stuff yeah I'm all over the country yeah I mean there's I'm sure it's available on uh but it was at brick in brooklyn and we could probably find it okay thanks yeah um and they keep an eye on how like legislation in bc and yeah it's cool it's actually a picture picture of their Emmy uh case they'd want to yeah I mean brick arts and as an organization has done some really great work over the years so you know who the big money is that started ACM for the big money is that they must have gotten the grant somewhere to have I don't know the origin of them yeah or the as an organization I mean I think well they're funded I mean it just seems like there also might be an angel someplace or some family name or something yeah maybe I don't know the origin yeah I can look it up yeah yeah thanks for community medium um so our staff and interns actually you can see here that our uh intern Junna has uh uh completed more or less her summer here and is working to complete her project um but she was super supportive during their summer camp and weekly camp and did a whole bunch of odds and ends around the office too and I pushed some paperwork I guess yeah did a lot of things um so maybe Jin do you want to hit the finances again or do we need to so like the finances are just you know we got the Comcast chat and you'll see um and so I think the trend is still there there's a decline so it's um it's expect this I guess we're expecting it to decline and it is showing that it's declining it's not declining in a rapid way that we're concerned but um so I think and then the tax return got filed and I sent it as part of the email I could send it I didn't send it to you I was like but um and so if you need me to resend it I didn't know like if Rob in the past had always gave you a copy of the tax return to like Peru it was shared terribly far online okay so but in any case it's in there and it's also in the google drive so um I think there wasn't I'm not sure I didn't notice anything odd on it I at the same time I I haven't looked at all the other previous tax returns so outside of that and then as um Christopher mentioned that they don't the Vermont public donated $2,000 for use of space and compost services all right so outside of that I think um just the numbers and nothing outside um super intense I think um I've been worked like so I think that's it on the finances a production of a commercial during the annual meeting is a great idea and those are those the same two students from last yeah yeah sorry yeah yeah yeah they're great two brothers um so the statewide stuff regional actually we do have some regional news um the ACM northeast which is the local new england and new york chapter the conference is coming this year so Burlington i don't know about 15 so that could be a wide of invite anyone yeah oh for sure as soon as we I could send the website around I think it's already you're able to register it out we could see doing so we group register or uh so focus on a little yeah I can check that out here let me worry can you take the decision involved where it comes every year what do you the ACM annual meeting who makes the decision where it's going to be hosted um I think they have a committee a steering committee yeah I was wondering whether Burlington was active enough uh to have a national meeting you know just had an actual meeting yeah I mean the burlington's having the northeast conference in in in november it was in providence last year yeah typically yeah it was in province last year but typically the annual meeting of the the national group yeah the ACM is usually in a city and they kind of bounce back for I've got the stuff I've got the annual meeting coming yeah I think it's taken not a lot of people yeah um so you're curious about uh registration I would imagine with a with a kind of a local option it'd be great to make it possible for any at all actors to forward and staff and they kind of yeah so take a head count and you can see um I'll be organizing and hosting co-hosting that panel um on youth media um the Vermont so um it's coming quick so I'll be excited um then the upcoming stuff is really uh the the big thing is the annual meeting this Thursday evening which you're all invited to come with you and yours um and five to seven five to seven uh five thirty we'll probably do our little um we'll hear from Peter we'll hear from myself and then usually our board chair says a few words uh very few and then yeah just happens yeah I think yeah that's the idea and then there'll be food raffles all-way games it's all right here it's all here right here and yeah so Gardner and Campbell are coming in and they're going to get a couple prompts from me and they're going to do something they were the ones that were doing the interview interviewing last year so this this year I think their focus is going to be a little bit more like well what we've been hoping to do is like capture something that's like exciting about like how do you engage with orca so that's their that's their mission are you able to fly on the state house that second meeting I did invite some people uh and I think Paul and Evelyn yeah and I'd share it with uh Mobiliar Live which is cool okay thank you they reposted it which is hopefully you know and we'll get flooded with too many people we'll see it yeah so oh you can use flooded metaphor oh sorry I forgot to say it's two seven two six five sorry yeah so that's it for the co-directors report we could share our cute little video in a segment we just sneak in any questions comments you know when I lighted her we already did all all as well do we do name tags for animal meetings for animal meetings um we buy some names I understand I already might even have some so hello yeah I can like the name yeah I usually get people's contact info yeah that's kind of the wrap that's part of the raffle is that you can hopefully sign up for our newsletter and right right right I like the idea of name tags I also wanted to ask since we're broadcasting the meetings on zoom what do you think about little name tags that go in front of each person's place there's a lot of new faces now and you are trying to get to know us and we're trying to get to know you and anybody who's watching these meetings probably would love to know who's speaking yeah that's gonna be for for our table yeah that's yep for this table yep probably seeing a little bit of your camera might be yeah might be hard to challenge you with the owl but we could try it yeah okay yeah I mean I can give you feedback just put them there and keep pointing them and then I'll be like yes I can see them all and then and then it will help people know who's speaking so it's odd because I'm sharing the video so that CJ can see it too CJ can you see the video yes yeah I can see the video right now because you shared your screen unless I swipe over let's see currently unless I double tap you yeah I can double tap you and then I see Jen and Chad yeah Chad's got the floor do we have or would we consider having like a policy in like in regard to the way that we're sharing space with Vermont public if um is this something that we might want to to do more and have I mean it seems like it's been happening with some other people from Vermont public and maybe it would be a good idea that say we're gonna do that you know this you know it's a great question yeah what is the policy for it yeah who would be available to share space here and and what sort of amount would we do right yeah especially because I think we are right right and we do feel like it's a great arrangement right now and we're happy to help them and I think that the question was like they had another person that wanted to come in here too and they were thinking about coming in and like it was like we're might be almost that capacity because we do need to have two edit rooms for our staff and we do need to have one available for the public um so yeah that's a great policy yeah like how many people could actually house during an emergency or something or yeah or during like or if the if the relationship works out you know we're a community media center you know maybe like getting other media outlets and stuff working together is a good thing I know that I've heard from people at Vermont public for forever that they would love more collaboration and right right well you know with the community so are you looking at them to help share the expenses well I would think so you know there's like a subletting sort of thing like you know other and even not just from our public but maybe a person here who you know makes commercials or something like that freelancers or something yeah we've talked about that like maybe opening up to like a more co-working kind of space would be cool yeah I mean that would be something that we want to figure out probably how much space we have yeah I think in our contract with VCF I was wondering at the moment donation versus suddenly sub-leasing is not yeah you need to add terminology yeah that's why do we have anybody with oh sorry and I should start raising my hand do we have anybody with grant writing experience or no or in the yeah on the border on the board or in our staff sorry uh both I mean most of the staff is also on the board so well they joined board beings but they're not board members but yes everyone here you mean everyone here yes yeah yes I I mean I have grant writing experience shout out if you guys have grant writing experience yeah no no I've tried but I'm still trying yeah I think it's a lot of my success rate is not that yeah I think it's when you ask that question it's actually followed by how often do you get the grant here applied but just knowing your way around a grant is yeah skills and knowing where to find the right ones yeah but yeah so I mean I was wondering why I wonder if CJ has a specific idea uh well mainly it's that two things that I have specific but they're me this is just throwing out a general direction and then a couple of possible specifics it would you know in terms of supporting business development in Vermont especially small and rural business which is an unusually rich area in Vermont and in America but one with poor access to resources like ours I wondered if we could pursue from you know Vita or the trying to Vermont Vita being the Vermont Economic Development Authority which uses Vermont's AAA bond reading to provide very low interest loans for you know for development businesses or perhaps something like the community access to the foundation name just something where we worked with maybe you know we're kind of chambers of commerce to say here are grants to allow you to help promote your business hmm I think I recalling now I think the last round of an under and they made that a specific grant application Orca put in and got a response um that was um really let us know we needed to do a little heavy lifting with strategic planning to show like we could back up what we were staying we would yeah that was that an accurate summary correct yeah filling the gaps yeah so I mean we heard from those the arts council the arts council that we had uh a decent request but a lot of work to do for like kind of putting our money where our mouth is or I guess they are just you know making sure that we are uh reflective of the community that we are hoping to serve I think that that's also maybe I'll add to the CJ what you're mentioning may be good for the like when we do have the board retreat and the strategic that feels like that could live at the strategic planning level because that is kind of that that commercial versus non-commercial content creation that we that we definitely you know have been very clear about for when community members do enter our space to use our services and resources it is for non-commercial use right so I don't I don't know that is the non-commercial use an absolute requirement I I apologize but I I need to go back and look at our founding documents so if a community member wanted to like I wanted to just highlight Randolph businesses and I invited some and you know I invited people from kuyas and I invited the people from the forage and I invited people from different businesses and that was my show there'd be no problem there but if if staff if paid staff started doing a I think the lines would get a little messier but certainly anyway and like the the pickings is ripe if anyone wanted to do a show on you know the law affiliate recovery through the small business perspective sure yeah and I think that that's yeah it is a maybe a great area like that but I would yeah like if a business came in and they were like I want to make content using your equipment using your services your resources and your staff to basically make a commercial make a commercial about myself that line that line is right that would be on the other side of all yeah because that gets into the essentially that's not within our part that would be a decent mission right yeah but but where is that where why do we have to have that line because I talked with my people that I know who run WGBH down in Boston they're a non-profit and people rent their studios exactly like that well because I think that the issue at least from my perspective is that we would be we would be essentially offering something for free that is is that that other like that a company is getting paid for you know like a production company right like and I think that at that point we would want to explore the idea of having like a four profits production or access channels on all an entity yeah there's I ask how was it the GBHS studios are used I wasn't I wasn't clear that was and hope to rent them under their production services um and hire crews specifically for projects you want to film there so you're paying for that yeah so I think that that can make yeah yeah just can't benefit from the increased profits from what I understand um so what I my big question is is like we're talking about a revenues decreasing from Comcast and we're looking at one of the when I talked to other media centers it's like the reason no one ever does anything and these other things is is because they're still making all this money this other way but if you're not trying to figure out another path for sure yeah and another the other part of that is like what is if we're in community media what does the community actually need does it need cable access shows all the time probably it's good and that's why we're here but I think that maybe when CJ is talking about the business development and that sort of stuff I think people would probably say that they want that more yeah I mean I think this is part of the way we've talked about this region but I think all of this this conversation should definitely be part of like what we we talk about in in the strategic plan yeah so I could full circle back just to let you know historically the response from the Vermont Arts Council created the outreach for today then and so we're kind of on the verge of completing that sir we actually had that thing scheduled for like some Tuesday four to seven in March and then something happened and we go yeah the reschedule and then it was like we lost racial step down and so it's this series of like we're that close actually so it was like the fall the timing and really deep right expect some and all these are it's like I think this is awesome I think you know that's the other things like we can kind of create our future too like that's the whole that's the point of kind of like looking at all this stuff that hasn't really been looked at like mission yeah so if that's something that we agree upon going forward like I think that there's models out there even within Vermont about having like like services that can be paid for we've talked about that before cctv they do that really well they do that really well about getting money for some of their stuff they have a spun off right yeah that's separate that doesn't stop us from doing no right yeah they have a clean the fine line on which side of the aisle you know and after strategic planning then I anticipate we'll have enough definition to our different paths that the circles can really become active and those those kind of conversations I think probably work better in a smaller group and then bring to the big and like here's what we came up with so that's you know we're looking at the horizon it's not I would imagine we're on October or November maybe we get Nathan we do have a date yeah we'll mention that oh okay great I'll get out of your way I guess we'll just wrap up the co-directors report with our video and you guys smile and then laugh at this a nice 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your phone it's your wallet it's an internet chip that connects to your brain side effects include vomiting fever brain rot dementia null effect blood loss nothingness and death do not attempt to take out off without a doctor plus 59 99 a month for brain access thank you it's so in this they had a lot of fun it's good that they did everything we always seem to get how long this may PV camp they always seem to be very prolific right i don't know you said that's a shortened version here there was like i think it's 18 and a half minutes we have the full version it's nice to have the last year it's been like an hour long program like they really had to cut that record and then sat down for the week yeah yeah they just they start right away i think after day one they're ready to they come up with ideas the first day and then they just start going at it the second day what did the youth doctors focus on so we'll be showing that at the annual meeting but that one was really cool uh that they put a lot of work into that as well and that's the 15 to 19 year old group and they did a conversation with elders in the community so it was like you talking to elders and elders talking to you they talked about social issues and local issues and it was uh yeah did you watch it i think i sent it to to you when i was sent it out i've shared it okay i can't comment as to whether i'm okay that's all right well you'll see well i haven't flagged to watch at some point yeah chad's company chad and christen's company well told films was one of our sponsors so that was cool and yeah and it was also for the first year we had guest filmmakers come too so that was kind of a highlight of that one so that like people came and uh every at the end of every day kind of talked about like filmmaking in the real world seara came right seara came it was just really cool on the last day very cool there's a filmmaker from bristol yeah she said she's absolutely wrong but from here in vermont whose film just premiered at sunday it's all here so she's all right yeah go on dance seara actually just last weekend was uh finally had its vermont premiere in at the mill barrier when you film like your festival so hopefully we'll get to show it here sometimes we ever have theaters again you know what the title of it is yeah it's called junom j-o-o-n-a she's ronnie in america yeah she's ronnie it's about a story like it's cool looking at her family in three generations of you know her grandmother in iran and her her mother and from iran live in vermont and her growing up in vermont yeah it's cool i remember seeing a little very yes you can have like sorry go ahead no like an open movie theater because movie theaters are closed right yes you can do it that's a question for the green mountain festival yeah that's a great question cool like coming down with blankets and everything yeah we have shown that the very first year at with the vermont it's actually we had some sponsorship from sun come in and they let us use their blow-up projector and we did a screening of the grass and the grass ants and the grasshopper on the state house lawn and that was pretty yeah this is going to be a very tough shape right now or you know i think they're doing they're like everybody else they're just raising money on their own and i'm on our director with the green mountain festival is she's meeting with james i think this week it's gonna get an update and it is the whole downstairs yeah theaters they did yeah downstairs theater yeah yeah like the other buildings on that street they're basically going to like within the core board yeah everything so that starts we use the uh the church courtyard i've done a couple felt three film screen there yeah actually pretty nice with that sun common screen yeah it doesn't blow away the church works like yeah that's it that's a good idea is for like auxiliary events too with the green mountain festival yeah and we're shooting for march the traditional time of it because it did go back to march isn't it i think it's back yeah we're gone back for you guys yeah you guys don't know we kind of are took over the management of the green mountain festival and uh that'll be coming back to roncillo hopefully it's just kind of things are up in the air obviously we're meeting tomorrow yeah yeah so i'm gonna show and talk about it oh yeah wow i think pipe on and yeah i'd like to someone else could talk about it have fun at travis yeah yes i know hello we have travis is moving to la oh yeah we have an update for that too okay so we talk tomorrow yeah it's a different meeting more ground to cover the footwork just before that's it guys thank you for entertaining us so then we would entertain a motion to pass if there are no further questions so moved hat so moves to accept the co-director's report and is there a second don't be shy so i'll second thank you David seconding accepting of the co-director's report all those in favor of doing so please indicate by saying aye and a post and that's unanimous thank you now so teaching it planning update is standalone item not on site newton so i think um a little bit so i think we just wanted to um touch base about our plan to restart it and i think um we are focusing on circles so we just thought maybe this would be an opportunity for the new folks to choose a circle that they wanted to be in so we've got the policy circle which talks about policy we have the outreach circle and then the facility circle so each circle kind of lives with each one of the co-directors so i i'm in the policy circle kisper is part of is the outreach and then zack is the facilities so if you wanted to and i think what we were trying to do and we will we were also thinking that with the new board members we could do a little onboarding where we could give you the documents of what we worked on for the previous strategic planning as well as any policy plus like how the circles kind of became to be and then um kind of if you have questions about orca or anything like that we could just do like some nitty gritty stuff and then hopefully get you ramped up so that when we start to do the retreat that hopefully i mean not that i'll i feel like we'll all be in the same boat of like knowing stuff and not necessarily having the super history of what orca did but that we can move the vision forward so i think uh afterwards we can try to schedule some time if that sounds like not too much and then i think um so that's what's you know part of the onboarding process of the new board director or board members and then i think the other bit was whether um how we wanted to i think we're thinking of scheduling the retreat and we i think so it's a little bit back when we talked about doing the retreat we talked about do we want to do one chunk for the retreat which would be a three-hour block or do we want to do two chunks of one and a half and i think the previous was that it was a three-hour block i think that everyone felt like that would be manageable and yeah it was consensus and scheduled that way and so whether and i thought we'd you know it would be helpful just to bring it back up of that's you know with the new board members that that's what was kind of thought of and whether that also felt okay too and then um i think we were thinking that the retreat we were kind of pondering i think so not we were hoping to have the next meet the next month be a working month of circles and getting everyone ramped up and up to date and maybe refreshing people's memories about what was talked about previously and then we'd have the board meeting and whether we wanted to do the retort retreat the same month as the next board meeting or the month after is kind of how we were planning it so does that to summarize use well fourth week of september to just warm up the circles the next board meeting i've got october 24th is the fourth tuesday in october and are you suggesting the the retreat having prior or after that i think after we looked at that that's of course yeah so we wanted like if there was yeah we were thinking after but at the same time if there was like if there was a feeling of momentum and wanting to like do it we wanted to offer earlier but we would prefer after agree yeah yeah so that would be again november's are off months that would fall in nicely that our strategic plan were falling in that november one our two next off months are actually on they're not full board meetings but we've got a warm up in the circles which could easily be remote right and probably live in in person if we get a hundred percent live in a person for strategic strategic planning of course life happens yeah yeah and nathan would be here for that thanks cj is a comment but she's not driving actually also doing something to warm up the circles i mean it would be september it would be on the off month of september probably for a week just because we usually hit the fourth week but cj are you back with us i'm with you okay so we know we saw that your hand was raised cj you're really great audio is rough i don't know if you kill your video we may be able to hear you smoothly are you able to see what i write into the chat window yeah people who are close to the screen can your audio just got a lot better by killing your video thank you thank you yep just to help everybody is there a written description of what each circle covers that our new board members could consult and also is there a list of what board members are associated with each circle yeah yes so and we can um so we do have a circles document that will be part of the onboarding and um and i think that the current circles if i can remember correctly was um cj you're an outreach dave i believe i have you an outreach chatter you were in facilities and then i think michael was in policy and rachel was in ralsey and i believe carlos was facilities yeah but cj your question just underlines the need to use that september to rewarm up the circles because we did a lot of that work and the docs exist but have i looked at them in months no so to answer your questions cj i can send you a link to the documents if you're looking for that link as well as to anyone else great i'll send the new board members those documents as well okay do we want to just now say that fourth tuesday in september is our circles warm up i need each um each uh co-director that's leading circle with um facilitate the scheduling sure yeah so the 2626 that would be yeah i don't think that that would be and i guess if facilities needed to do the 27th because but we might just semi-nail down make it a little real but uh each of the three co-directors would outreach to the circle members so all right we need to know is paleon impact who would be where would you like to land and i don't know if that's a decision tonight or just yeah i don't want to see you like to see the whole yeah you can get back to us yeah why don't we do that getting acquainted with the docs and the purpose of the each of them the scope of each guy which one do you need there's also that right yeah the balance amount of the difference yeah there's the balance issue pretty even right now you know like vlogs i'm gonna say i think policy could use one just because we lost one all right right that's what i was who has said hey check in with me in a year and with we and we still have room for one so potentially rachel's back but it's you know it's when carlos and chatter facilities like we'll be again so just right the meeting i think that one on the 26th could potentially happen around like it's just a group of three or something maybe it's kind of happens around their availability so it could be yeah yeah setting that date yeah calendar should i do like five to seven sure yeah i think the evening so i will not have anything else yeah yeah and then the board retreat that's probably a good one to block is 14 did you guys play around with November 14th is attitude that would be the that's because based on the school and the holiday of Thanksgiving that breaks will bring better and stay in yeah we said the 14th makes sense and it's a Tuesday all right Tuesday tradition four to seven we would do that so we're gonna we'll be all right lots of coffee and lots of pizza and then it is a retreat does that mean be physically somewhere else or have a year or who cares for when i hear retreat i think it was gonna say why and you're writing a space and stuff yeah so i guess we can ask it maybe that if this is the space works well and we could touch base with Nathan but if it i guess you know we're happy to entertain if people want to go to a different location because it might be different put things out and whether maybe another piece on i was just like going to allow and i heard the word retreat so let us know if there's any preferences we're happy to research stuff just heads up we just hit the eight o'clock hour okay so it's paper season so i think that was it on the strategic planning just to try to get some of that stuff done and then it kind of rolls right into old business yep uh do you have an annual meeting update so i think you know just it's the 31st and i we just wanted to kind of remind about annual meeting and then the meeting after that is officers yeah i have that on my list so um that is the 24th um i guess wouldn't make sense if anyone is interested in um chair treasurer secretary um if anyone is just interested in entertaining any of those street positions maybe it would be contact chris and it may not even be like for this go around and maybe like you know i'd be because i've done this for five years and i'd be happy to keep going be happy to hand off and just and or maybe have an overlap year or something so just just if you does that make sense chris you've generally been that's fine yeah yeah days on um so if you're like you know what um and then chad you are you're interested in handing on the baton as in a room rachel was also a secretary so there's no term one right no i think um i think she's still out of there it's an annual annual that's the vial i say it's an annual uh nomination in both our officers for me following me and i'll actually make a little at the annual beginning to get us back right with the bylaws um our bylaws actually say our annual meeting happens in may covid messed that all up no one's going to and we just did we just did some fall this will be our final follow-up sort of get back into our old rhythm uh in 2024 that sounds right yeah i'm ready for it um i guess that's all remaining within old business i think um other old business yeah the other old business was just new business it was in the notes or it was in the minutes and so i think our our there was a request to just keep track of old for new business and old business so i've been putting everything that was listed as new business in the previous minutes as old business this agenda and it could be that it may just need to be taking off once it's i guess that's a good way to track yeah so i think um cj asked about the um full attachment revenue that is i think been floating around that's the bill that um van is putting out to the legislation about the full attachment revenue and i don't know that we have numbers for that yet so um and i think that is also there was we might be able we can if we get that cj we can email that information to you as well i think um some of it is i think they're still like some is not ready for public so it may be just a rough number and so yeah that's fine is there actually a bill with actual language or is it kind of in recommendation zone and still working on yeah i think it's a little bit of both it was introduced at the end of the session so it was introduced in january yeah okay is it a full bill or a uh summary call it a short form short form which just trying to get a title yeah exactly sorry a short form yeah okay so and then it's there i think it's on its way to get full bill in january but yeah as far as the numbers and revenue stream that's the only yeah got it okay so and you might maybe move it to the next yeah so we're going to take it off the old business i feel like old business of the respective revenue is done january the real bills rolled out yeah okay um and then any old business from people's memories or new business well could i ask what jim is doing is really good to keep a track of what's outstanding yeah and so with back to the discussion we had about the ed rick jones issue would that be added to that yeah i mean we do we do know that uh we do know that the financial team myself and then our edward jones personnel me and um but i think it's a board it would be good for certainly work i forget my next week um in the minutes yeah maybe we add that to the just to keep track yeah i think there are more minutes should have outstanding issues yeah and keep track of it because you know how that goes we we used to have a more nebulous old business and we are getting it more like let's let's make sure we get that catch on um so thanks for people wanting that um and then any new yeah i had um i asked mark when to come in and he had planned number two that was rough audio there anyone get that no can you repeat that for us because it was breaking up or it might be a time you know what i'll just i'll just post a quick note into the deck okay which i think she suggested having mark when from edward jones come back in oh which is probably a good idea since there's a lot yeah yeah yeah yeah i um didn't get that that may make sense for the october meeting um december is also budget season maybe it makes sense for that but um october should be a pretty a pretty standard one there we we should be like that welcome for 20 20 minutes something the october 24 yeah i'm i'm i think the the meeting with the smaller group we're going to get in the weeds a bit but to get back global with the whole board and mark is a really good idea thanks cj and that also got tails for strategic planning um new business more hand up no yes people will be asking us if they've read the same article on the bridge that i read which is that rebecca holcomb is starting a thing called the the greenway center for equity and sustainability using buildings on this campus and um that the k gustas and some they were hoping to keep their current tenants all uh able to be in on the campus in the buildings but it sounds like they're sending some of their courses out to colorado and so somebody asks us more members what does all that mean for us on mcfa is everything going to be just the same as it's been everything's going to be just the same yeah with it they had uh they said that the new owners are uh not only thrilled to have tenants but they're hoping to take their tenants you know as a as a as an income so yeah they are there keeping their tenants here for now yeah so we're staying in and they're only although they did buy i think not you know it was split between the new school and the center for engineering uh school they're only really using it as like a pilot program right now at noble hall um so i think they're taking it slow and i did listen to the the meetings available if you're interested the community meeting that they held where rebecca holcomb talks about it yeah did you go i i i listened to it the next day yeah i voted that we covered it was well attended actually no it was earlier while we covered those yeah i think that the neighborhood's been really supportive of of them you know staying here i mean there was a whole worry you know about six months ago that they were ready to sell the college and that might be it well they did sell the college well i'm just saying though that that really means people well the college won't be being the college anymore right yeah now it's i think it's like people are excited of the potential of having students here yeah it's gonna start off very slow i think they only have five students is whatever it's okay the students will actually be staying here in the in the dorm yeah it's actually all the information is on their website which we can share their website no i got i just was curious it's a it's a semester of waiting program and the semester is spent and not failure okay who recalls how many years we are into five years are we three years in i think i think barbie's 2025 i feel like we have two more years and then we have two extensions on the lease that's part of our lease and they did when katie came around to talk to us we said you know what about those extensions are those are they going to honor those and she said yes so i feel like we have some cushion in terms of they're looking they're not looking to move us out really quickly or anything so that i think um and they may just you know depending on how much how many students come through they may just keep these two because they i mean there's the center or contemporary dance at the studio yeah there's a bunch of they added more tenants in so i'm wondering if they're hoping to just keep these two as tenants and then have the rest of the sale properties or elsewhere yeah so but in terms of us moving i feel like they were pretty reassuring about our lease that's great extensions yeah all righty um that was sort of all kinds of business and i did just quickly sorry i met the programming uh director today hannah uh and i invited her and the students to the annual meeting so so that you'll see them and maybe yeah talk to them maybe so yeah so they're live and they're here yeah they moved in and and she asked if there was opportunities for them to engage with our organization i said of course it excellent what part of the campus has the new school the new the hatch baron in the alumnus building and they're in says there's 15 to 20 students for the hedge school yeah i don't know it is listed as like who bought which building yeah so i think it was alumnus and bishop patch is the two buildings right there and thus that's the new school and then i think everything else is the the institute the green ways to except for college all in the green which didn't get sold thank you then uh stone oh yeah so and i think the three buildings that were going to the wellness center didn't get sold yeah so so our star landlord yeah yeah we'll be realized yeah we'll be having a formal meeting in september at katie's uh yeah with the new landlord yeah so everything wasn't clear stone and and the next one over she make her yeah is also part of the sale it's a green way but we're still making all the charts too yeah so no change in the amount or just who is going so because we will be up let's see she i think hold on any other new business at 812 my good job don't hold