 You're watching 420 grams and it's a day when the technical committee had a meeting on a conference call, a video call because these days people can't meet in person. Isfak Ahmed was on that call even though he has somewhat spotty internet because yesterday once again mobile internet has been turned off in Kashmir where he is at the moment. Isfak, first say how are you doing here and update us on what happened in that meeting? Well, I'm doing great. I think I was actually doing great till that mobile network and internet was working. Now it's more difficult. Thankfully, you know, like my sister is close by, so I had to go home and to connect. Geo-fiber, Geo-sabi. Tell us, sir. Sir, what happened? Yes, because you said something about your family. The family is running, the football is also running on Geo-fiber. So what happened to you two? Nothing, actually there were meetings about the national age group, what was going on. The general update was about the national team's performance and all that. And plus, as yesterday you must have read that the newspaper is also coming, the foreigners are decreasing. We are trying to reduce it. The AFC rule is criteria which is 3 plus 1, 3, 3, and one more issue is compulsory. So immediately it is not possible, the players team, the ISL teams have made it in the team. They have given someone a contract for two or three years. So, but as far as I know, it's a welcome step. All the members have to say the same thing. If this step can make an Indian player more opportunity and development, why not? We are sitting here for something good, even though my personal opinion is different. But I did not set a time frame like this. But in future, both the leagues with the I-League and ISL, it is good to have followed the AFC criteria rule. Sir, you have not set a time frame yet. But I am saying right now, let's not talk to Ishwag Ahmed, the technical committee person and former India player. But let's talk to Ishwag Ahmed, who is associated with Kerala Blasters. What do you think from that perspective? When can you practically put not, right now it is 6 plus 1, right? Total team. Yes, yes, yes. 6 plus 1, which is 5 playing 11. So when will you put 5 plus 1? Because you will put it step by step or exactly 3 plus 1. No, I think as you rightly said, what you are saying is the best step by step. I think ESL is impossible because teams have been formed. The next season, if possible, put 5 plus 1. And if it comes after that, put 4 plus 1. So step by step makes sense rather than because some team has signed long term contracts. So their plans are bad. And as far as the previous meetings were going on, I have heard that ESL teams are not as ready as of now. As of now, there are only a few teams, I think, who I had already heard in the meeting. But I think it is a good thing if they go step by step. My problem is how, who is guaranteeing that the development of the player will happen. Point. But these two guys will get to play more than 90 minutes? Fair enough. But you won't get a chance to get it at any place? The goalkeeper can try out, wing back, extractor. It is not necessary that they will give a striker. For which we are asking that we should get a striker. Until you yourself were a striker, you used to bring two strikers to the local team. So we will bring two strikers. Now this is not a guarantee that you will get that spot in Indian player. Second point. The most important thing is that we are all missing. We are taught in coach education that a young player needs 10,000 hours to become a good player. After that, a player should get at least 45 matches in the season. Now you can see that either the coach education program is wrong or the league is going on right. Some of them are wrong. Because neither they are getting matches nor will we be able to develop the player. Now let's listen to you. We will get two players in 90 minutes. Fair enough. But ultimately our coach education that teaches us is wrong. Because he will not get 45 matches. And a junior player who plays in the reserve team will not get 10,000 hours. This is one thing. The guy is sitting there with the team with the Bible. He is training and making maradona. But he is not playing at all 10 matches. So the second thing is that you will be able to play at least 10 matches. If you don't give a chance to Iswag Ahmed, then maybe Iswag Ahmed would not have been the player who took part in the game. 100% I say that one mistake cannot be corrected. I mean, the most important thing is that you are getting matches. The player you have is also getting proper professionalism matches. They are also getting deprived. They are also not getting matches. First do something for them. They will get proper matches. There will be top players like Sandesh, Sunil. How many matches do you play according to you? Top players. 20-25. So don't talk about the rest. The poor people who come from the bench. If they had played one or two matches of the season, what would have happened to them? So according to me, the most important thing is that when the coaches had a meeting, which came on the paper, where three rounds were suggested. But unfortunately, now our situation is also of the whole world. There is not even one round. One round was also difficult. All the matches that were left were cancelled. Highly, I am saying. No, so three rounds you are saying, basically everyone plays twice and extra time. One more round of games. Wherever there are two countries, I think in one season, one gets two home matches against one team. In the second season, they get two matches. So whatever we do, any matches should be more. I don't know, I will remember the origin. When I was playing in DEMPO, once the AIF said their compulsory, 45 matches ahead means a professional player shouldn't play. Yes, I remember this. Sir, you were playing 45-45 matches. Yes, that's why there was a rule in the middle that the high league players shouldn't play Santosh Trophy. Because they get burned out. They are in danger of injuries. Now they are injured sitting here. In another situation. But Ishwak, the ideal scenario would be that if there is a 20-team league, then you are getting those kind of number of games. But sir, if there is a 20-team league, all of us in this discussion know that it is not happening right now. Even in the near future. I am saying, leave it for five years. So this is actually a nice scenario where you increase the number of games. You are three rounds, not two rounds. And that number of games. But sir, from the club's point of view, you have suddenly increased the number of games in one month. Your budget will also increase. The club's budget will also increase. My money will increase. It will, but where they are going, but for the country and for the football team and for the footballers, something will be good. I mean, money is also coming from here. Some team is becoming a champion. That is another thing. But the player is not taking advantage of it. I mean, your players, you see, as we were thinking that they have increased the precision here. How will they keep fit? In the meantime, our technical meeting we thought that they will put a small camp in between so that they stay fit. So the money will also be spent there. I am sure that Bangalore or the other teams will also think that our players go there for so long. I mean, a match and training fitness is usually different from a personal fitness. You all know. So somewhere, maybe you will have to bring a three-match system or what you said that there should be more teams. The other team actually makes sense but we know that there will be no time. No, I also mean, maybe you all don't know because you were talking about age group tournaments and discussing all this. So at least there should be a structure that if the ISL is your top tier maybe it is not right to expand it or there is resistance to make it a 20 team to make it a 20 team or whatever we decide to think but at least at the junior level or your pipeline the boys the players they get 45-50 in the game season. So if we strengthen there until you become an elite player then of course you need to keep playing and keep in touch with the sport and all of that for your development but by the time you have already reached the ISL level like you are saying those 10,000 hours that you need to meet the player on the youth level including competitive matches you got all of that the structure should have been sorted out so what did you talk about? There is a good thing that there are youth leagues here there are youth eye leagues so I think they will have to increase their duration they will have to play more matches which was definitely an important part in the meeting I am glad that they were showing a lot of interest because for example the current under 16 is your future the new world cup the majority of the players will be the same if they go to the next round or even close to the qualification they will come because they have also qualified for the merit for the Asia cup so that is a good hope so what you said we should pay attention to and where Mr. Sunindo was also in the meeting so the all competitions have been held so they have explained that they are increasing and are doing and they will most probably involve the youth level competitions which were not available at our time unfortunately but now probably until the states because India is so big until the states are not involved hopefully in future in fact some good news are like Sai is also willing to work with them they also have Sai teams so we will get a big pool ahead InshaAllah I have a question that is clear now that your hierarchy in Indian football unlike previous seasons ISL then Ileague then second division Ileague will it be 5 plus 1 or Ileague will it be 4 plus 3 plus 1 so that our boys can play there it is there I think they have to talk to Ileague clubs so if they are ready then it is all about clubs if Ileague clubs are ready tomorrow the club will think of themselves but one thing in Ileague we might be able to speak directly but the ISL their separate governing body they take that decision we can only suggest them so to be honest they also said we should work on this model like AFC model criteria which is a good news now if Ileague teams tomorrow to do it maybe this year if they are ready Ileague used to play 3 plus 1 I don't think that Ileague owners will have a big difference but one thing if there is a competition it means there is a league cup start from this year 3 plus 1 so that no one gets unfair advantage and if there is a league cup where we are starting many things depend because now it seems clear that league will be very postponed now I don't know when the dates will be so I feel if Ileague teams are ready we have to be fair with them also most probably they are ready as far as I have heard but if there is a tournament from this year from this season there should be 3 plus 1 at least try out how it will be yeah because it is just one thing because the whole discussion around this 3 plus 1 has been that if you have done this you have done it and you have seen your league very close from where you have seen it will the quality of football drop from what we have been seeing and let's admit in the last season and the season before that there was some good quality football being played in the ISL I don't think so quality of quality will go down you will definitely have one quality for less in one team but two that will have its effect but there are good things there are bad things there are a lot of good things when there are 6 or 5 foreigners who are top foreigners who are our Indian players they always get to learn something from them which is clear the level of our Indian players is very good you can see the passes when Goa started it was a very good game you can see a lot of Indian players and sometimes they were playing with Indian players I don't know about quality going down but I always had to be systematic first 9 foreigners were playing something like this you could have signed 11 foreigners when the first season started on the bench there was no place for foreigners so if there was any change then foreigners would come so now there are 7 foreigners and 5 players are less I think if you go step by step the effect you won't be able to see the quality going down you will have to give some time to the Indian talent so let's not put them under pressure now imagine you did 3 plus 1 and all of a sudden goals started to come it can be a not by quality reason our teams are different all the experts would say the quality will go down I will be the first I will be the first I will be the first I don't understand why are we expecting from day 1 as you are telling in a systematic way if you want a long term benefit for both national team and the league itself the league's competitiveness the league's fans' interest to increase involvement so 5 years or 10 years you should think in this duration then analyze and see what happened the other thing that might also happen is that if you can only sign 4 foreign your budgets will be more or less similar so it may be that the money that you are spending today on 6 or 7 players tomorrow you spend that much money on 4 players so maybe the quality of those 4 players goes up also and different clubs like you are saying if you look at the club then of course it is important to win for most clubs especially if you look at the league where small and new clubs come they often mount a challenge for the title and all that so in that competition any club can win no one knows right so even then we can see that the budgetary restrictions are there for many reasons whether you are talking about the local economy or whatever so most of the time the local players are playing you see so by having those clubs automatically you are giving the talent to the local players that is there but over time if you keep it and maintain it and look at the people who don't have like 60 crore or 70 crore to spend so you are doing a little level differences will still be there no doubt some players will be able to sign some clubs they might be able to sign someone who is not played at that level my point is that why do we need the level that is what I am trying to say this level playing field I could understand this level playing field is something you are vying for when AFC has not decided that ISL is primarily I league is league below that and promotion relegation happens from here I can understand that then you are saying now the set is that if you promote from I league then you will go from ISL which is the higher league and if that is the situation and if you are in a country where playing time has been spoken about for the last 2 years so much so that your national coach is also coming out and saying it that I am not getting playing time and I am not getting the gap he has called 45 boys on the camp he has not even seen I league he has not even called Noctumbar Nawram on the camp my point is why can't we stick to 3 plus 1 with I league who are you trying to impress with these 2 extra foreigners I was saying that I am talking about within the league not comparing I league and ISL they are different if ISL clubs are saying that they have signed for 3 years then after 3 years let's start I think I league clubs are not in that situation there is no signing in advance there is no signing there is no restriction there is no restriction if you want then you can give only 2 because now it is clear that I league second division has been formed you used to allow 2 foreigners in the I league second division yeah you are right you can do it easily now you want clubs to talk to them give them confidence one thing is good you will get more employment you will get playing time and to some extent I think the budget will be reduced you had to pay the foreigner you will not have to pay the Indian and it can be still a competitive tournament sir because sir if you look at the I league if you didn't do the rule and you said you can play 5 rounds so from a good place who doesn't want to play I want Indian players to play even after 3-4 rounds I have lost I have to play 2 boys and those 5 foreigners are deciding games for them so why am I spending so much money I don't understand if I am not going to lose no if the other thing is some of the I league teams won't sign foreigners maybe they will sign only 1 foreigner because they can say what will we do after winning yeah right 3 years the budget is left let's stay in the league so until and unless the prize money stays there they will benefit so let's see nothing is clear the other executive committee the federation there will be meetings and we hope that I am always in favour of more employment for Indian players quality is there when you don't encourage there are 2 ways to think on it means when you are a big country there are 10 teams and now you don't encourage the youth to play there is a chance there won't be if 5-6 boys are getting employment then who is in 1 crore 1 crore take half of our percentage if we try to impress 1 crore 5-5 5-5 is a 5-5 place already there are some professional players and you have a chance in 5-5 places only 1 crore how will you motivate them to go ahead and get employment so the most important thing if there are more clubs then it is better if there are some pro-long tournaments in iLeague clubs where you get more Indian players and you get financial support then it becomes a structure your 2nd division iLeague then you have more dreams so you can reach in ISL hopefully you can earn more so it can be a good system sir from a club because you started the show you said a very nice thing that in our time we were able to play 40-45 matches now 40-45 matches you were playing locally we were able to meet everyone and you were playing 40-45 matches I am saying from a club's point of view how open are franchises from playing not just an IFS shield or a durant but also participating in a local league because then that gives you another 10-12 games or 14 whatever sir if the Federation decides with the ISL governing body why should they have any problem the local leagues they start very early you feed your Indian players you can test them foreigners maybe they will 1-2 foreigners in the main time you can just secure all bench strength also I think for example the reserve teams state leagues so some are playing but they are not playing enough matches means 8 matches 8 matches are playing in iLeague 2nd division because after that they cannot go ahead because they are reserve teams so 8 matches are playing there 8 or 10 matches you can think that they will play more in Calcutta or in Goa the rest of the leagues will get 8 or 20 matches that is their maximum sir I am saying in the local league I am playing in Delhi and I know that the first team is playing in Delhi you can see the competitiveness of the league will grow up because everyone will want to be ready everyone will want to be ready because you know the people of Delhi will be watching it will be a system it is also beneficial for you because at the end of the day if you are a local club means all clubs are local whether you are based in Kerala or in Bangalore or in Delhi your fan base Manchester United or Real Madrid cannot be formed from day 1 that you will have fans all over the world in the beginning your fans will bring your fans local who will connect with the club automatically your connection with your local community will increase 2-4 people will start buying jerseys you know young players get a chance to play all of that overall I think it will be beneficial not just for the players but also the purpose of the club to make a fan base and the development of the club true brother I think it used to be when we used to play in Calcutta or Goa local leagues used to have a prestigious tournament in Calcutta in Calcutta proper I mean it used to be a match of dishes to win so if it stays with us I think we should introduce a knockout based tournament a knockout means a league where first there is a group stage where 2-3 matches are played 2 teams or 1 team like a federation cup I think it is necessary for such a tournament because a league cup is in every country so we need to have a league cup here here too I think it is necessary for 2nd division teams to have a chance with ISL teams like in every country in every footballing country and some of the great stories come from there like the story of Calais yesterday I came to BVC Calais small club in 2000 in France they did extremely well in the league cup there so this is how you get some of those great stories I have been talking about that for 10-20 years about the Loan Star the league cup and the league cup to win the ISL club and all that stuff sir it happens a lot in the federation cup some teams went ahead 2nd division teams they defeated some many times they saw that top stars were born from those teams when they used to play in tournaments because they only get one platform to watch sir I just think since you said even at the start this will not change it will change systematically so if the aim also at one end is to give Indian players a lot of playing time and also how do you get 40 competitive games to play and maybe you can aim first right now if you are doing 20 you should aim to get 30 and by 30 you are saying say you have a mixture of a competition and a local league then hopefully by then in a few years time your league will also expand so you will get more games in your league so you can go up to 35 eventually your endgame should be coming to at least 40-45 games regularly couple that with a few international games for your international players and then you are getting a good 40-50 players for someone like Sandesh Jindan sir sir I am just saying when you had a meeting last time you had to give credit to ISL people also the CEO they are also the same thought that the new CEO he himself has suggested at least 3-27 matches now the problem is that the situation in the whole world now that may have might restricted this year but I hope and I am very much sure that ISL will have more matches either team will increase because at least they are on the right because they know this they speak Indian players should get a chance and they should get more matches if they know I think that is going to happen then sooner or later when are you inviting us to the technical committee tell us we will come no problem so anything else from this meeting is fact that you think is an important thing to talk about or that people should know about as fans of Indian football what is the process what is the formal process of it being passed if it doesn't get passed this year I don't think we can only recommend them it is kind of a request also it is not like we can do that because we are not on the part of it we speak for better football you have to give credit to them when they had their meeting they also discussed this they said where some teams have agreed obviously they also don't want conflict they also want to take some time which is fine which is a fair enough thing as long as you have right intention noble intention if it takes some time it is good if they step it will go for long time if they start it can have a little bit negative impact also as I said yesterday some goals were considered or no goals everyone will say this is not the same league so they have to think of that also so which is fair enough call and the most important thing is that age group said they are doing quite well and it will pay a lot of attention government of India is very keen also like the ministry of youth service and affairs like we have the sports minister who is a football fan and understands football also which is very very good thing he has promised to give a lot of support he has promised to give I think that is fantastic and they have positively taken the suggestion of PIO what is that they are trying to work on this player of Indian origin to make it possible for them to play for the national team so 3 plus 1 plus 1 can be you have seen yesterday times of India also they have written about it PIO or OCI player so this was definitely discussed I think what is the discussion about that will be given to play in national team or in the league no club also if they will give to the national team they have to they are Indian origin you have to give them chance to play in the club also they will be countered that I think is decision later on to whether Indian player or foreign player because then it will be the same because as of today the discussion will end there only the discussion will end there only the discussion will end there only the discussion will end there only but there is a good positive there if someone of Indian origin can help for the national team then why not there are several players and we have been talking about this also a lot of times a lot of people who watch the show comment on it keep players people of Indian origin getting a chance to play but in different countries there are different books like dual nationality many countries allow it whatever thought process is of the government the fact is that in India there is no nationality concept so as of now and this is not just this doesn't just apply to football because if you see football then it is part of a larger industry the question of job said it is not necessary the FIFA the internal rules they don't care about that if you have to prove that somebody is Indian origin eligibility eligibility is important there is no doubt in that if you have a parent or grandparent it is not necessary to give him citizenship it is not written that you have to give him a dual citizenship or something like that as far as India's rules are concerned if you look at the case of Prakash Amritraj it happens with many people in different sports that when you are going to represent India the current rule of our country internally FIFA is different but you cannot represent India unless you are an Indian passport holder Indian citizen so this is the situation as I was saying this is the first time first ever time at least consider we will consider this which is not a it should not be by this rule when other countries get benefits why not our country but there are wider issues involved in this also because if you are creating exceptions for a job for a profile then those exceptions start applying to across industry all kinds of things they are seeing for example maybe that dual citizenship may not happen it may be only allowed they might be allowed to represent the country for football especially because football can make a big difference we don't want anyone outside take it from here it is simple football is not like that but the upbringing of football culture like here is cricket culture technically they become strong and they can help it is not necessary to give a dual citizenship or if government only allows what rules are they making for us we don't have to take FIFA FIFA is saying what rules will you make if you don't want to play they need to be eligible criteria and they can play they have signed Omid Singh they are taking it they are playing they are taking it it is a good thing we have come to know what kind of football they are playing very good point you brought up because I remember during Stephen's time there were two PIOs there was a camp for he was not up to it he was not up to it he was he couldn't make it for the Olympic League he was with us exactly but it is definitely worth talking about including some of these guys because you know that Indians are everywhere and not just software engineers and doctors and all of that they are also in post postage also if you can't see me I am telling you the truth in Europe whatever level you are playing if you are a decent level and if you are a goal scorer and if you are a PIO then we should pursue it it is a big difference to a team fair enough man but it comes back to we are contradicting are you a Nagrik? no I am not a Nagrik I am not a Nagrik I am a British I am an American I am not a Nagrik make a Brazilian when Barreto was 15 or 20 years old he was also called to play he understands Bengali and talks the story of that what is the Sudanian guy who plays for Qatar so many guys so I mean different countries like in our country we are talking about CNA, NRC in our country there is a big complex and long dialogue and we are playing football we are making our own rules how Nagrik doesn't agree whatever it is I generally think by the correct right step forward since we are saying that we have a moral of the story in this story step by step ideally you should make a rule where you can eligible these boys to come and play league football in the country see them play league football in the country give it a few years let the government then take a call they are already eligible so who is stopping you if you can sign a Brazilian player then who is stopping you I am saying if you are getting a PIO if you are getting a PIO then you need to make a slot for a PIO then you are not eating into your foreigners that is up to the league that is not up to the government you have said a good thing Urjun there should be players first you make sure that there are players who will come directly and play in the national team but there are players who are not to play they are sitting in front of you are they sitting in front of you are they sitting in front of you are they sitting in front of you may not be that guy but like for example Danny Bach who got a message on Instagram we are talking about it on the show he is ready but he is not willing to give up his British passport for it for now the rule is if you come and play there is no problem but you take your British passport or foreign passport like Arata did like Arata did yeah at some point I think Michael Chopra was also interested or willing to to do it nobody wants to go European passport yeah you are playing international football so you are deciding that your mobility because if you have end of the day you have a European passport you can almost enter any country in the world like whenever you feel like it there is no business you can take a job etc if you take Indian passport then you can work in India it is good for people to work in India but that restricts you in other ways so it is a very personal decision Arata and some players might feel that we are not going to play for England but we have to play international football it is a personal ambition I will give you exactly a true but sir there are players they are playing their Indian origin in bandwinning yeah there are players sir please sing there was an intercontinental New Zealand do you know if he is not in the national team he can play there he has already played for New Zealand so once you represent one country then FIFA you cannot change no you can if you have played in age groups but he has played senior the side story is when me and Ashwag used to travel a lot in star sports then commentary was me, Ashwag and Eric Parthaloo yes yes what a player after that he never called me to commentary room he never called me there was this kid a few years ago from again in the US somewhere in the Bay Area his parents work there he is a kid American kid he was signed by the Real Madrid Academy as an 11 year old so if he plays in the Real Madrid Academy for 4-5 years if he is fit if he is not injured then at least he will come that was the standard there is that Norwegian player also yes yes there are few guys Ashwag the challenge I feel is this if you have opened and you said that player of Indian origin can come and represent India and you have taken out a joke I am not getting into the politics of it because otherwise it will be an episode of an hour that is the point point is because we are so far behind world football let's accept it and if you are in Europe and you are saying that you will not be able to meet 7-8 guys of Indian origin who can come and play in the national team then where will the identity of your national team be so then I think you put a limit that only one can come that club football can be made 200% either do that or a quality barrier check which has played a certain league exception which is playing top league which has played a level in world football call them because complicated complicated thing I guess like so many of those guys who are team mates of Vikas and Rasu they were either they or their parents were born in other countries whether it is colonies they are the area of the team west indies where is the national team this is a long debate if you look at all of these look at the french national team and you can make an argument that how french will come all of these things I don't know man my point is we are contradicting you because on the one hand we are saying that we should get the chance to play on the other hand if we open for diaspora those who are in Norway Sweden lower leagues not the top leagues in Europe but still up there then we will never play in the national team in ISL how can you compete with a guy if a player like Krishna who has already played in ATK in the national team if he gets a striker then why I feel you are opening up Pandora's box no I am saying because see Roy Krishna is a player and I mean no disrespect to Roy Krishna I am just saying of that level and caliber of player if we get 11 players then we won't be able to play with boys in the national team or you can make a rule that only 1 or 2 players are playing at the premiership level only then can you come I think that should be something that everyone can come as rightly you said and honestly speaking there are not that many players that can come don't be so weak in your national team I love national team I will give you a kiss I love national team now understand this their school their basics their training is much better and simply put you are playing at a higher level of competition sport is like that if you continuously play against higher level players in the process and the fact that in the near future the coach of the Indian national team is likely to be a foreigner most likely to be a European foreigner the mindset of that coach automatically like players who have played in Europe he will be the best way this will be 2 or 3 2 or 3 max the type of salaries that players are getting for example I think that for some of these guys who have some connect with India it's a good starting point after national team we will talk about it but it's a good starting point because if you are playing second division play premier division yes play premier division you will get good money your club is taking care of you you are becoming a superstar suddenly your instagram followers will be 5 lakhs all of these things also have an impact because at the end of the day players are doing a job they have to earn a living also we don't consider that sorry guys I don't think I think if we do an experiment in the league if we call them we will allow each team it's not a bad thing the pool will also know how big is the quality but there will be a question mark that some of the players who are playing higher league who can't leave the top league here it will also depend on so many things look at the case of Gurpreet he went there he learned he spent 3-4 years right then eventually once he got whatever he had to get then he also wanted to make some money establish himself as a star which he is now India's first football team commanding probably among the top salaries in the country so after he got that in Norway how much he is earning 3-4-5 thousand euros a month he is spending half of it because he has to stay there the rent is also high food is also expensive clothes are also expensive house is expensive whatever no, Gurpreet is something different he worked hard he went there he could get some money in ISL because the goalkeepers were not that much he worked hard and the most important thing is that he got something he didn't waste his time he didn't waste his time and undoubtedly he is one of the best right now in the country he is different but what you want to tell I totally understand all this is very tricky there is a criteria what should be the criteria there may not be only one criteria there may be the quality what he is playing there may be the recommendation there may be a coach also maybe whether he needs or not that player if you have done 5 plus 1 if you have taken a PI or a quota then people like me will start beating Dhandora then our boys will play here there will be 3 plus 1 3 plus 1 plus 1 when you will beat Dhandora till then teams will increase teams will increase that is the point but it will take time for teams to increase realistically I am having a long conversation so I am bringing it back the 6th season your ISL has ended you reckon by the 10th season the end of the 10th season I am saying realistically come to 3 plus 1 you are saying realistically I think it should be done in 1-2 years today atleast 3 plus 1 3 plus 1 should be done in 9th, 10th 10th see this year is very difficult because the whole world is upside down so no one can really make any plan plus clubs are saying they are already signed players etc so to do something now what is it 8th of May might be a bit difficult because I think there was communication from the federation regarding some of these rules in March where it was clarified that the foreign player rules will remain the same as they were last season so if you have already done that then it is difficult to make any change only one change is 6 plus 1 so from next year I think you will get to see the start and if you are saying as Ashfaq is saying FSBL is also coming from the same line and everyone on the technical committee seems to be of the same opinion so based on that I guess in 1-2 years it will take some time but I think it will be because you have to give time like Urjun rightly said that you first tell the rules if you want to do something next year then you should tell it because it takes some time in planning and if you have 6-7 steps then maybe in the next 2-3 years you should do 6 and after that you should do 5 but ultimately you should decide in the ground we can do many things but there is no decision of one or two people everyone has to take some time and it is a new league like we are saying it has been 5-6 years nothing has happened nothing has happened what do you have to do what do you have to do it will take time anyway sir your 3-1 hasn't happened till the 10th season I will be playing till then you have made me a ball footballer and my mouth is getting less it is getting fit how do you know the player's fitness from here so I am starting from the Delhi league and after that if God says don't get injured I think we should start I will also come to play in Delhi you have money give me a place to stay sir let's make a club then all of us will play I am also up for it let's play if any team needs a free player to keep them on the bench we are ready young players will learn something and nothing else ask the other person let's so I think we should now we are on the cost of it it has been 10 minutes wow so we have to keep it within an hour not bad otherwise we will know that this meeting is going on like an AFF technical committee anyway it is good that there is no news click in the studio otherwise they would have been on the course let's go I think there was a message from the studio that if you guys get rid of it due to the coronavirus it will be fun one day it will be fun that it is going on for so long and what is happening on the bench that the cameraman is so angry that he closed the camera and left it will be fun okay take care thank you for your time all the best to you and good chat soon