 Welcome back to the ISAC. It's the only way to turn up your weekend. I'm Mike Itzai and if you missed this morning's conversation We were asking guys back at home you guys What would you do with a hundred million Kenyan shillings if you won? Russian was thinking She should run away to some foreign country Set a new life and buy a new deck exactly And buy decks. It was lying to us. He was saying She would give a 10% to this at 30% to that If that's a long She said she would give actually 10% to the church and you're like She's lying. Why I know she would buy shoes. That's the first thing and I wonder which is toe nails red bottoms And nails. Yeah, I didn't know that's a thing and nails I Want to jump into this interview someone so talented. I've known her for a while now She's one of the best best best live performers that we have in this country, and I think in East Africa really I'm talking about Victor. Are you sure? That's a nice intro. Thank you, Mike I know And you'll do something I'm trying to be charming see you're saying I wasn't being a gentleman Victoria knows me No, no, no, you know flowers are kind of intimate so it needs one special someone over it. I'm gonna send me flowers I don't mind No, Victoria you've been in this scene for quite a while. Yes, you've done everything you you've performed live You've recorded actually we're going to debut one of my songs. It's so awesome But before that I want to talk about like your inspiration when you were growing up because I think it was it more jazz-influenced Jazzy bluesies. Well, I grew up listening to a lot of R&B hip-hop because of my my my older sisters and Oh Lingala Yes, that is a shock to me because when I hear your background vocals that you put on your tracks Yes, definitely I can feel a sense of jazz and blues. Yes, like that old country old-school But I grew up listening back then you do a party if there's no Lingala or old school Then it's not a party and your jeans have to be cut They do know how to do the How I can, honey, I could dance in circles If I dance in Lingala, will you like sing it to me in Russian? Trust you me will make you dance Lingala For the end of the show Just prepare for that man Do we need to stretch for that? No, but I worked out in the morning so I'm fine Enough said Okay, let's say Lingala Yes, so I grew up listening to So any like your influence by every type of genre I was always on glued to the TV and I was a kid. I wasn't a social baby I got into arts I think immediately I came out of my mom's room because she's always told me you've been an artist since You know you were singing But I came out you know shouting a lot because I wasn't I think it was a long story how I was born but then my mom always says you were born musically So you've had it in you So I was always glued to the TV I was watching Utna when I was a kid Utna? Yeah, I don't know if any of you, I don't know if some of you remember that But yeah, I was always listening to African music I was on you know the Yvonne Chaka Chaka The you know Brenda Farsi So I got exposed to different kinds of genres Ever since I was a kid So I think that's also helped me when I'm You know in my music writing or arranging or producing Yes So by now like now you're older You're more seasoned so to speak In terms of music But wait back when with all those influences The genres that you're listening to The African influences as well Who are you looking up to when you were younger Who did you like, I want to be that I don't be that, Miriam McCabe Miriam McCabe Oh man She had a, like she was a force Like this, she's one of the strongest women That I've ever met as an artist As a woman, as an activist She even when she was in exile She was still making music in a foreign country About her country and you know They're still fighting for independence And they got it way after She was still fighting for all this And then she was a musician She's a vocalist She was just a force In whole, you know what I mean And she took her craft very seriously And with all the respect that she could give it And I emulate that She inspires my work, my writing The way I carry myself as an artist And yeah That's someone to definitely emulate There was a time she was even being referred to as Mama Afid Yes, God give that title And it's sad she left She left, you know, before I met her Because I did a cover of her song It's on my YouTube channel And I wish I would have met her And let me tell you What's your favorite Miriam McCabe song? Mama and Jialila And Harpo Zamani Harpo Zamani Yeah, Harpo Zamani I think it's, that's a song that You know, I relate to Because, you know, Harpo Zamani is She is very beautiful These are things that I've grown up You know, seeing and experiencing So you always felt like You can relate to whatever she's saying Yes, yes They try to do that with their own songs Like to Naturally like steal some of the influences And incorporate them in your music But to try to be like her In the way you project Like what is that? I don't know I wouldn't say project But maybe embody her character When I'm doing her song Like Harpo Zamani And Mama and Jialila And I, because I'm also an actor And every time I do A different kind of character Or something like this one Is most of the songs are in Zulu And I was always trying to learn it You know, because it's It's, you know, we are rich We are rich with culture And if I get a chance to do something in Zulu I want to do it But I also want to understand Everything that I'm saying Why was she saying what she was saying You know what I mean So that I can also see how I relate To the lyrics Or what she was going to When she was probably writing that song Yeah Nice You said you were an actor as well Yes And you were about to do an I-Flick series Real soon Oh, it's already out It's already aired Yes, yes, yes Tell us about your character Which character are you playing in Ganya? I am playing O.C.P.D O.C.P.D Mmm So you have to be harsh or something Or are you the nice cop? So far I am this Streaked hands on Kind of cop But as the seasons evolve Which I don't want to give spoilers You get to see different sides Of the O.C.P.D. Because it's not a cliche Or the way we portray Cops is like this Serious But they also have faults They're human You know what I mean They make mistakes So you're trying to humanize Yes I think maybe that's what The vision of the show is I don't want to say much about it Because I'm not the creator Or the producer But I would imagine that They want to show different sides Of this character And you know And not just being an O.C.P.D. Yes How she relates to people Out of the office What kind of a person Is the mistake she makes Does she come back From her mistakes Does she learn Does she become a better person Because that's also what kind The society we are trying to Portray right now We are trying to show What is going on But then how we would want Things to be In the future So yes Nice You've done theatre Yes, nice And now you've done TV Yes I can't obviously Like ask you Between the two Which one do you prefer I can't do that to you Oh theatre I mean I'm not thinking about it So it is theatre I love theatre Is it because of the musicals Or what I think it's Maybe it's also the The immediacy of it all Because if you mess up You mess up You're on stage And it's you And I'm I'm showing you What it is now You know there's no rehearsal About it At that moment There's no take one Take five I feel like I mean I love TV I have nothing against it But I just feel like You We could do We could incorporate A lot of theatre Before we do a lot of TV As an actor So you would rather Focus be put on theatre At the moment Not at the moment Because at the moment There's no money in theatre That's the truth There's no money in theatre Yeah It's there But maybe I'm not seeing it I mean there's this person Who has this money For the theatre please There's no money in theatre There's no money in theatre There's no money in theatre That's the truth And you know That's the truth But theatre is thrilling It's exciting It's So much fulfilling And I think also maybe It's because when you do A lot of TV You know it's cut Take two Cut Take three You get what I mean And you You kind of have to Put a lot of focus In this character And doing More takes And for some artists It makes them lazy actors Because you always have lines And yeah You know whenever I see Digital Russian I think she can hack it As an actor I think she can hack it Can you give her like Something Like a five second scene Like what Because you also produce Don't you I don't know why she's laughing I don't know why she's laughing I didn't say anything funny I didn't say anything funny I didn't say anything funny I'm going to say something really Really Really She's really laughing So what do you want to say I'm going to say I thought he was going to say Like dancing No no no That's later I hope you're prepared Yeah Everyone is going to do a challenge Even myself So wait What's my challenge But I'm going to give myself a challenge What's my challenge Give her like something Like something Yeah Let's say if she's coming to audition What would you tell her to do So that you Like Picture a role for her All right Well MC for me As a As a DJ And this is your stage And this is You have This is a private You know Party And it's It's one of those headphones Particles I've been talking about That this whole week So you know Sell it to me You know I'm the crowd I'm paying you a million Million shillings For Party of me A million I think I go When I feel a million I go topless Okay No No Don't go topless Don't do that I won't try I won't try But yeah I mean you I'm seeing You know So There you go Yeah And what do you listen to Because No, yeah It's your play list It's your thing So you try Sell that to me Like Yeah Wow That is really a challenge You know Yeah Yeah It's Russian And the ones and twos Your Boyfriend's favorite I was gonna say My friend Your boyfriend's favorite DJ Woo You just went Right to the point Your boyfriend's favorite Your boyfriend's favorite DJ I'm here I'm seeing You know Taking it on the ones and twos Yeah Something like that And a DJ A little Russian is not playing She's coming for your boyfriend Did you hear it Did you hear it But that's awesome So put up Producing and acting I am bold And you are The challenges are different obviously Because of the production You know It's more directing The people like You just did Yeah But directing Is directing In terms of production And coming up with Whatever Production is You know You're in your own element And you're Making all the mistakes That you can make And all You're trying to express How you want the sound Like for me It's like That one I'm trying to explain A sound to A producer I'm like Okay so I want I want the To go like But then At this point So it's like All the mistakes So you're trying to Express yourself Because obviously I don't know What you're doing And acting And acting And acting And acting And acting I mean And why is music in this Because you just said Producing and Why not singing Okay Producing and Singing And singing And singing And singing Which one would you Choose And sing Oh singing Oh singing Oh yes Most definitely Oh yes I want to be on that stage I want to be the one Shouting And But yeah Speaking of vocal runs Hey yours Hey Thank you Hey Thank you You like to Perform live You have a gig I love Is it a weekly gig? No it's not I just did Gig And March Early Early March And Yeah That's the Recent gig that I've done At the blues It was music Freedom Day And Yeah It's not a regular It was just a one time gig Yes Would you be open to that Like a regular gig Oh yes Even last year I was doing I had a few regular gigs It's just You know Change I guess Yeah But change is good Change is good Because now Finally Like finally Finally Finally the videos are out Oh my word You and a lot of people Yes I am really So many people yes And they are like Why is the video too busy? You know the first time I had You even asked me that I remember I remember I tell you I think we even fought about it And it's your music I think we fought yeah We did I was like Why Why are you doing this video And you know It's hard trying to Explain to You know The crowd A media person You know either producer Or an artist Or presenter You know Trying to explain to them That you know Maybe it's funding Or maybe it's You know you haven't found the right team To help you You know Create this Or you just don't feel like It's the right time Oh Was that the situation? No that was definitely not it Because everything seemed to be in line I mean I'm grateful now that Things have worked out You are connected with this And this person Yes But it wasn't really about the time I To me I think it was About getting the You know A team That can help me Create this Put this vision into reality And And even the people That I wanted to work with At that time They You know they were kind of busy And I was like I really want to work with this person So I thought Okay let me just give it some time And I take this time Then I can be You know getting some good funding To You know make this thing A whole You know beautiful Thing as it came out Yes But Thank you So I think it was also The timing It could be that too Because everything has Worked out the way You know maybe it was I meant to work out I guess And I'm not complaining Either way Either way the world Gets to listen to Victoria Gishore So I'm happy I'm happy too They will be happy Very soon I hope so But is there an album coming? Yes Now definitely Now they Is an album But I was definitely coming But I'm Who's producing? Who's producing Different producers Yeah I've produced some of The songs in my album Okay And I had the pleasure of Working with other producers Who like Benzissomo With Wawesh And that was an amazing experience What will be like The overall sound Are you fixated on a certain genre Or are you open As long as you can Lay your vocals down You're good Yes as long as it sounds good I love I love experimenting With different sounds You see like the way I did the Me and Mackeba cover Yeah So I just I like experimenting Maybe there'll be a Django song I'm not saying I'm not Django But maybe there'll be one But yes There's definitely tracks that are From different dialects With different Maybe a few collaborations I say maybe because I've done collaborations with other artists But maybe not all of them Will get to be In the other Not all the songs will get to be In the album In the album Okay me I advocate for this You advocate for this Speaking as a fan I want the album to focus on me No Sam me I don't mind You know I can lay Put my vocals down on the track with you We can go But we can go Do you want to go We can go I told you me I'm following your lead today I'm the guest But me I want your album to just You know to just be Victoria Because I think it's about time Yes That's how I feel about it I agree Because I said that because That's a question that I got From a previous interview Like do you have why you know Doing collaborations And that's why I'm saying I agree with you Because I wanted to focus on You know Victoria Victoria And not you know Victoria and Victoria and Which is not bad I've But not now Now is your time Not now now I'm in my space right now I just want to Put out Victoria Music And we're ready Thank you We are so ready The album It's called It's called It's called It's called For Truth For Truth The end of the year The end of the year So November December Yes definitely 2019 2019 You have to make that sure Yeah I'm going to say about 2021 And we don't even know Like a Marvel movie No I'm going to cut Fish up But we're waiting for it Thank you The end of the year November December But in between There are a few videos Yes So Victoria Gishora You can find her on YouTube Make sure you subscribe Tandisimo is already there But you have about Four more that you want to Release within the Four, five Four, five Probably even six Videos And all of them They're going to be All of them is just Me No no no I'm just saying You need to debut them At the Okay I see where you are Complete Camillisha's intensity You need to debut them At the So thank you Wow So make sure you subscribe By the way Victoria Gishora on YouTube Awesome vocals Thank you Why am I even talking in it? Why? You just Here's Victoria Gishora Just play this one Just play this one Just play this one Just listen to it Just listen