 I am your host Donovan Sharp. It's gonna have you guys in today. The red man group is brought to you by 22 convention We aim to make women great again, and this is actually going to be the third the third time that we've discussed the 22 convention and the reason for that is because we seem to be getting Some notoriety on mainstream media. We've actually got a couple of articles There's actually a couple of videos and an article to read but before we get started Introduce today's panel first up, of course is Anthony dream Johnson He is the founder of 21 studios as well as 21 University you guys can you guys can go to the 21 convention To get tickets to the 21 convention and the 22 convention You can get tickets at the to the 22 convention on the 21 convention org. Is that correct Anthony? That's correct Yep. All right, perfect. Next up is none other than Steve the Dean Williams You guys can watch this show the red pill Mindset mindset and this is gonna be weak date. This is actually Monday evenings. I think it's seven. Is that correct? Yeah, I'll push it every other Monday to eight every other Monday at eight every Monday at eight Eastern And last and certainly not least is no Revoi. You guys can find him at smv4k.com I imagine that means sexual market value 4k.com How are we doing this morning gentlemen? Good They're pretty fucking great Well, let me go ahead with you I remember I remember sort of the genesis of the 22 convention We're actually at the first 21 convention that I attended back in 18 and I'm sitting right next to you We're doing the red man group live and I just kind of floated the idea there Let's just say for the sake of argument There is a 22 convention and I remember you tell it because I didn't know about the 22 convention But I called it the 32 convention and I remember later on You called it the 32 not the 22. I remember I remember sitting there. I was like, oh shit. Oh shit shut up Well, let's and he said you I almost let the cat out of the bag I certainly did not but this is a real thing now and Anthony We are getting some mainstream media attention man, dude. You got people coming after you on Twitter We got people talking about us on TV. We're gonna see here You made a you made an appearance on the BBC channel with Pierce Morgan What's your life been like since this thing has really gained mainstream notoriety? Yeah, it's been life-changing man, and I think that's only I'm still we're still at the beginning Maybe the end of the beginning so to speak of what's going on with it So since December 31st, not only has it gotten mainstream attention in the New York coast and good morning Britain and things like that I mean, it's gone viral across so many different platforms like all social media Terrestrial radio. I'm here in radio programs broadcasting it locally You know like like Pat Campbell does in Australia and France and Britain all over America and Canada So it has gone mega mega viral by my count just by social media the radio I don't understand like I need to ask Pat Campbell or somebody who understands that I don't have to track the numbers for that kind of stuff We've reached over 80 million people Wow Well, we've been broadcasted that many the actual I don't think the actual traffic It's hard to tell but that's actual account on Twitter followers Facebook followers YouTube subscribers things like that Just yesterday. We reached a whole new over 2 million people On YouTube this can be this like young comedian little millennial douchebag Decided to come after us this hit piece and it's it's actually I was laughing ass off watching on TV I was fucking this fucking glorious. Look at this guy Because if they think they're doing such a such a noble virtuous white knight, you know little parade And all they're doing is just driving more attention and traffic to us They're feeding the monster and a little baby monster and they're feeding it and they're still like they know what they're doing Right, but they still can't help themselves. If I'm a justice warrior if I'm an sjw I'm saying to the rank and file guys the more we talk about this the more Media attention you're giving this guy free advertising. Yeah, why don't you listen? We need to shut the fuck up and just let this thing quote-unquote Full up and let this thing just kind of right off into the sunset But the more they talk about it the more people talk about it people are throwing insults our way It's it's it's actually helping. No, I've actually I mean, yes, he asked my life to I mean every day There's something new where they're meeting with Security law enforcement hotels like getting death threats math threats and mass violence People wanting me to die. There's a woman. Yeah, women are all the time now. They're getting Feminists I find are very violent. Yes, I've been talking about killing me chopping my balls off and shoving down my throat Just on Twitter like right down the open, you know Right, and you of course we all know that if I were to do that against some feminists Okay, let's chop off your tits and shove them down your throat I'd be banned immediately for for violence and other whatever their policies outcomes have right exactly It's been really it's really illustrative and demonstrative to call out these feminists for being toxic Toxic dogmatic bullies and lo and behold. That's exactly what a huge majority of them are doing They're just screaming at me at other men at speakers at women who are standing up and saying we like what they're doing We're gonna attend we support it. We want to see it happen So it's been really a it's been a huge triggering is what it's going what's happening and a lot of these people too What I think when I watch these videos like the one yesterday that came out by this little, you know, do we you need it looks like you need sand cake in his face this little guy and I look at them like puppets and they're my put in my talking puppets that I make talk and they say what I want them to say because they're so fucking stupid like all I have to do is put out some some, you know stuff Irritating to them and then they share it with millions of people for me for free It's supposed to be one of the most successful marketing campaigns in history. I've spent zero dollars in advertising 80 million people It's a pound on the keyboard like was fucking super easy Are you getting listen man with the amount and I want to come to you Next no, because I don't I don't know if you have a background in advertising or anything like that But my guess is that I don't know I can't really put a number on it But I would say Anthony's probably got hundreds of thousands of dollars in free advertising and who knows maybe maybe People will start maybe people will talk about this on Super Bowl Sunday, which would really make this thing global What are your thoughts on the on the mainstream media attention? Yeah? I think that you mentioned that they can't stop talking about it Even though they recognize that they're perpetuating the thing they're trying to stop. I think it's important to Check out every single message that's been put out that's against us within the first 30 seconds They say that they're fearful that we're dangerous that they're scared that we're scary We've done an amygdala hijack Right initial market. It was so effective that it short circuited their brains and they they mentally turned off they're in fear mode and so they can't think straight and Anthony is exactly right. They've become his puppets and that's not going to stop Because it's just gonna get bigger. You know, they're they're afraid someone's gonna escape the plant someone's gonna get men Who aren't afraid of women's shaming them? Okay, now we're in trouble and so we've really triggered them in exactly the right way and The initial marketing was perfect for that. Oh, yeah. Yeah Yeah, I can't tell you how many times I played that video the last time I hosted the red man group It's just it's it's been one thing after another now, Steve You probably have a different take on Mainstream media and I'd really like to get your perspective because your father Is a part of mainstream media or at least was a part of your father worked If I'm not mistaken he worked for or works for Fox News It was a regular contributor on Fox News From that perspective, what are your thoughts on the attention that this convention is getting from mainstream media? I think I saw kudos to Anthony, man I think what he's done is really hit the hornet's nest and is again I would I wouldn't say would you y'all say thousands of hundreds of thousand I think he's got millions of dollars of marketing because think about how much it costs to advertise on a regular Program, right? It's a lot of money and He's just sitting back kicked back, you know sending dickpicks if he wanted to the view and he's just chilling Everybody's mad at him. I mean everybody's post every he's not thinking about them They're thinking about him. So that means he's winning. So he's it's it's a market a great great market move But it's not even a tactic. It's a it's really there to help women and I think the problem is as people are Look, they're not even looking at the information They're just so in their feelings that they just think that we're here to just to bash women But as far as Anthony goes marketing is damn near geniuses. It's perfect. Yes work almost too well And I remember I don't know. Maybe I spoke with you Anthony about this I don't know if I spoke with you or somebody else. I thought to myself are people really going to talk about this We were we're asking things like what is the average? What do we think is the average age of? Women that are going to attend the 22 convention and listen only time will tell but I think I think it goes without saying that's definitely gotten a lot more notoriety than I thought it would Let me shout out a couple of super chats here Ryan Sullivan with the $10 super chatty says super chat for the kicks We appreciate that Gravelite with the $5 super chat says thank you men for teaching and giving me confidence to speak out as well As learn game the game is cold and wearing warm jackets won't help Absolutely absolutely very good. Alright, so what I'm going to do now is I am going to and by the way guys the phone lines are open 914 205 5356 again, that's 914 205 5356 that's a number to call if you want to get in on the conversation What I'm going to do now is I'm actually going to play a video from a TV show called the real and it's basically It's it's I can't forget. It's basically the view It's like, you know a quasi version of the view. So what I'm going to do Yeah, that that's pretty much what it is So what I'm going to do is I am now I am going to share my screen here. Give me one second I'm going to share my screen here, and I want to get you guys's thoughts. I don't know why it's not sharing anymore There we go share my screen. There we go Heads up to this this show they have two million subscribers on YouTube They publish this to and I also found out that they're syndicated on local Fox TV stations throughout the entire country So I don't know what their viewership is but it's that means probably a lot. So All right, very good and listen guys. They're having trouble with sharp stream This is not the time to talk about it. This ain't tech support. This is the red man group All right, you guys are killing me send me an email send my guy an email Don't talk to me about sharp stream right now. This is not tech support. This is red man group. All right. Here we go It's fair to say that most women hate being mansplained to right? Yes Well you guys there is this convention that might be taking this to a whole nother level It's a convention in Orlando, Florida It's run by all men which promises to quote make women great again Wow And according to now, let me stop it right there because this is kind of what we do on my show Do you see the condescension with which they talk about this right? It's it's it's amazing how they just absolutely. Oh, I can't believe this is happening Oh make women great again, but here's what they're missing Anthony and I'm gonna get your thoughts on this as soon as this video Is over we're saying make women great again Right like these dude these banshees are so They're so in their feelings. There's so they're so round about with what they're thinking They have no idea that we're actually giving them a compliment. You were once great We are trying to make you guys great again because you were once great Unfortunately women just don't see it that way because of course they are women. It's a very it's a very positive thing Yes, absolutely Before wait for it. This seminar will have men teaching women to do things like how to land a husband How to lose weight how to pop out a bunch of kids and Get this you guys the cost of the seminar Is two thousand dollars? Yes, I Love the girl who's like don't don't do it. Don't say it Oh Losers, but we're looking at this. We're looking at this woman on the screen, right? And she has this look on her face like oh my god I can't believe Conventions like this exists. Well, you look at this woman and this is the reason why this convention exists Let's go to you. Well, it says the world's ultimate event for women No, but it also says with a trademark make women great again fool Listen, we got it look at her masculinity you hear the masculinity Nobody up there is acting feminine the girl on the left to standing up. She's pointing where she got the fat chick in the middle I guess it's supposed to be this version of star Jones. It's just unbelievable that We're already great yet. You guys are acting like many guys have a very mannish disposition and and energy Is that an ex pussycat doll to the far right? Is that the ex pussycat doll the one to the Far far far left. I'm not far left. Oh far left. I don't know I don't I'm sure the pussycat doll, but I'm just yeah, okay Exactly, right, you know, I gotta be honest here I have an ex girlfriend sort of looks like the girl in the far left. This Columbia trick I used to bang It's the same kind of I would definitely bang the trick on the far left. I don't care about attitude You could fix that easy sure Listen, who's a stiff dick and a smack in the ass. I don't fix any attitude I tell you now that girl loves that that's a kind of girl that loves it rough and she plays a bit in public How she's such a little hard-ass and she's yelling and throwing her hands around. It's all it's all fucking for show Anthony I grow like her loves masculine men Brother and you are giving away the game and I'm telling you guys right now I say this all the time and Anthony you can cosign on this the more masculine They act the more in your face and I am woman here She wore the more strong and independent they come they decide they want to be the harder They like it the harder they want to get fucked No, that's actually that's a really good point because Pat Stebbin one of our speakers from recently in Orlando You know we talked on Twitter and stuff. He was the first guy I saw say this But I think all of us will agree that women who say that stuff like you're saying They're basically like you could say they're brainwashed by feminism and the feminine imperative and all this crap Really what they're doing is they're projecting what they want and it repels at the same time it repels what they want That's like a nice guy being nice. He's a fake nice guy, right? He wants a nice girl in his life But we'll never fucking get it because he's projecting what he wants rather than Demonstrating what women want and what they need to perfect it frankly So this yeah, the women say the strong and independent like this girl You're right acting up all this strong strong crap Oh, look at that. She she can't figure it out that this is what she actually wants Not what she is and what what she is expressing. It's all fake It's this is this is actually the the fake nice guy. This is the female equivalent. It's not a fake nice girl It's a fake. It's this masculine chick. I love Listen to piggyback off of what you said women will act and talk about themselves The way they want their men to be in other words and this was sort of a hack of a hat by the way shout out to Emily Britain Who says in the chat quote y'all are idiots listen Emily sweetie We appreciate you watching but if you're gonna troll at least being original about it y'all are idiots Is that the best you can do? This is why this convention exists because we have girls thinking y'all are idiots is somehow anyway Women women will do this if you're on a first date or a first meet-up with a woman ask her this What kind of man or I'm sorry, what kind of woman are you what that woman will tell you she'll tell you I'm decisive I'm strong. I'm independent. I'm driven. I'm focused blah blah blah blah What you will find when you ask women this question is that they will tell you they will describe the man that they want Because what you'll find out is if you spend more time with her She's none of the things that she told that she was on the first date instead What's doing is sort of like a reverse like an inverse projection She she admires those masculine characteristics so much it internalizes this but that she tells you exactly what she's looking for And so if you really want to know what kind of man when they're looking for ask her what kind of woman she To be fair mostly some men are oblivious to it They're really now some of them do know and they're just being duplicitous Dupus it is or whatever, but a lot of them are just oblivious They've been raised on this feminist bullshit their whole life And then they actually and then it's reinforced by other women hashtagging and screaming about it on Instagram all day Then they actually right on the first date they will say this crap and they actually to a degree They actually believe it deep down. They know they know that's not true. They feel that but they can't Articulate it. There's oblivious man. They don't know and they're extremely frustrated because Everything that they're doing to get what they want is getting them the exact opposite Yeah, I mean as a guy we are our thing is we solve problems That's what men do if we try something enough times, and it's not working We kind of catch on eventually but these feminists Partially from the pressure from other women because if they try to deviate other women will jump right on them Yep, they need what they really need is a man to say it's okay to deviate from this It's okay to be feminine and attract rather than going up and hunting a man You can pull a man towards you instead So Kobayashi Maru is going to start a go fund me campaign so that we can get Emily a ticket to the 22 convention because She certainly needs it. Let us continue with the video Actually Anthony answer that question have women signed up for this Absolutely, we've sold quite a few tickets and there's even more selling every day as well as patriarch guys that tell me They're bringing their wives when they buy tickets her patriarch tickets are selling and they put in the notes They want to bring their wife and then how do they get the coupon code? Look, we got a lot of women Listen look at the woman on your screen. Look at the expression on her face. Do you see Matt? And here's the thing guys. This is a beautiful woman like let's not let's not be trolls about it She's a beautiful woman, but this masculine energy is what makes her ugly, right? Like she like she looks like she's ready to kick somebody's ass someone on my channel commented They were like red-pilling women some Jedi shit because previously it was thought to be impossible And I think what we're seeing is is more or less the red-pilling of women because their heads are exploding Yes, that's the only way to do it is you have to make their heads figuratively explode the pink hats explode And in her head, she's like realizing she's like am I wrong about something in life like fundamentally And she's like no no no And they're all their heads all their heads are exploding now. So it's fantastic I had a whole bunch of women that were not thoroughly convinced about 22 conventions see this interview And then privately message me and say here you go how they responded now. I think you're right It's if the red-pilling is going to have to be done by the contrast between the the hyper manic Feminists combined with the calm and solid masculine presence that's being provided by the men they're going to speak at 22 convention And I'll say this the announcement of the 22 convention is equivalent to A man running pickup game on a female you you know, you you you introduce yourself to him. Hi, I'm donovan and you are Um, I'm sorry. I have a boyfriend right what this is what this response is is a shit test And the reason why we call this a shit test is because these women we have struck a chord We have struck a nerve if this 22 convention were completely going to just be completely useless to everyone We wouldn't be getting this response But the reason why they're so vehemently coming out against it and trying to trash it every way is because they know that women Understand what's really going on They can pretend not to know but they know if they really if they really did not think that this was going to have any Any impact we wouldn't even meet they wouldn't even be talking about this But they know something and that's why they're losing their fucking minds anger is the weather vane Boom. Wow. Anger is the weather vane for the truth. I like that. That's very good. All right. Here we go The website is 50% off now for They try they put a sale on how to how to make a woman There hasn't been a lot of backlash I am interested though Lonnie. I am interested to see who signed up. I actually would like to know because I would like to get into the mind and understand why that woman thinks she needs help in something It makes me think they're praying on women Who feel that they're missing something and like whether they're Getting married Don't have a great job Don't feel like they're they're they can't lose the weight So then they go to this God or this deity that that feels like they can lead them give them the way you already have the way inside of you You just Already now now we get in the field. So you already have the way inside of you Well, let's back up though. She just called me a god Deity or all of us deities apparently so we're all god But now they're saying it's inside of them No, it sounds like they need a man inside of them is what it sounds like especially this one not only not only Not only do they need a man inside of them women are and let's not get it twisted women are capable of accomplishing great things Giving birth is nothing short of a miracle. Let's keep it all the way real. I'm a man. I can't give birth That is some fucking spectacular ship. I guess what you need to give birth That's right. You need a man even if you go in vitro. You still need a sperm, right? So women need men more than men need women we want women, right? But we don't need them women need us. This is why we're this is why we are doing this for them And here's another thing Here's another thing that that I would like to point out in terms of this woman's response Oftentimes you hear women talk a lot about Um, and she just said well, they're praying on these women We're not praying on anybody what we are doing is we're throwing up the flag Hey, if you're a woman and you're not quite happy You don't you don't understand why you're not happy. You don't understand why you're not married Why you don't have kids why you're 37 childless? You know, uh, uh once abortion you've had you've had six abortions and and you're crying yourself to sleep This is the answer We are going to tell you why this is because the world around them tells them to keep doing things the same way But now they're picking up. Why am I still 37 now these these women are the ultimate This is blue pill for a woman They're telling all these fat women that they don't need to lose weight and get healthy They're saying being fat's okay embrace being fat embrace being Masculine and being manly and being hysterical and all this crap. Yeah, it's delusional nonsense Her voice at the beginning when she says I want to see the other women that are going to this Yeah, Pat listen to the jealousy Yeah, look at the hand. No, there's no wedding ring on her finger. She's not married They talk about the money situation anthony and yet they'll go outside and buy Louis Vuitton bag just like and as far as Calling us the way the names that call us Well, as soon as you ask someone like Derek Jackson or someone telling them how special they are and you know come to my seminar They wrapped around the building when they hear how good they are, you know, so Yeah, they want to be fed bullshit. They already believe 80% of the self-improvement market is women Yes, women pay for this stuff all the time. They they buy dozens of self-improvement books that they don't read Self-help can come to a seminar Another thing I want to mention too is that she's talking about, you know, they're praying on women Look, the predation is projection from them They're praying on all these fat women in the audience live and on tv watching that are watching it the middle of the day on Fox or something And they're the ones doing that we're no one we're not forcing anyone to come to the conference It's just a ticket. It's pretty they think it's expensive. Whatever. It's a thousand Dude, you can't pray. Listen. You can't pray on people and make them spend a thousand dollars They're doing this of their own free will and militia Now the woman buying tickets are excited to come out to the event. These people are delusional and projecting Matt Vasquez says in the chat. Sorry to cover you up there Noah. He says they pray on women He says that is why there is a fee to enter so only women who are Feminine women can attend these women are walking contradictions I will also point out the veins bulging out in this chick's neck It's actually actually quite telling. Let's continue But if I want to learn how to pop out a bunch of kids, I want to learn from someone who's actually done it Now see that's dishonest and that's disingenuous. We're not The 22 convention is not telling women We are going to teach you how to get pregnant and pop out kids because news flash We got plenty women out there who are real good at getting pregnant and popping out kids Right. Well, they're they're pretending that we're like that we're saying we're midwives or something Which is retarded like of course, we're not midwives or we're not gonna no one here is delivering babies We'll teach you how to get wiped up and knocked up. That's what you want to do Which you probably should it's a great thing marriage and family But yeah, this this stuff about there's this totally straw man arguments bullshit Yes, straw man is a good is a good is a good way to put this Uh, I think the only person on the stage if I'm not mistaken who has a ring on her finger Is the the girl who is the second one from the right? I think she's either tia or temerra from sister sister Uh, I think she might have a ring on her finger, but I don't see rings on any of the other fingers I think the one in blue wants to attend honestly looking at her face and the way she's been delivering the message I think she secretly wants to attend and she's like damn all these bitches hate it This is a facade the woman on the right is noticeably silent. Have you noticed? Let's as we continue to watch this Let's watch her facial expressions because she's she's looking like she's playing the part, right? She's trying to look like she's incredible and incredulous, but something tells me I could be wrong I haven't watched this all the way through something tells me that she doesn't disagree with the 22 convention. Let's see what happens Oops, there we are. You know or who has inspired me It just sounds like these men are trying to control women and you know, that's what it sounds like Okay, trying to control women Uh, check this out. Um, number one She needs to exercise self control, right? Like she had to help control her portions number two You can't control women gentlemen. Everyone on the panel knows this. You listen You you cannot make a woman submit to you a woman has to submit to you of her own free will and volition And the very definition of submission within the context within the context of a sexual relationship between a man and a woman Is relinquishing control a woman will not relinquish control to you unless she trusts you No, not in the way you're thinking trust you not to go fuck around and fuck other girls No, she has to trust that you can handle your shit. She has to trust that you can handle her She has to trust that you can make sound decisions day in and day out That is submission that is not control a woman can relinquish control But we are not trying to control women because we understand clearly that women Women don't want you to control them. They don't want a controlling man. They want a man Well, hang on. I'll say this with this chick the fact that she's bringing this up out of nowhere There's nowhere on the webpage where it talks about we're going to control all women and slave all women Like this is delusional bullshit. They're making up Now what she's projecting what she she could probably jerks off this kind of stuff to be honest Yeah, like that that's what she that's where that's coming from. It's very personal to her She's obsessed with that kind of stuff. She doesn't have a strong man in her life That gives her any feeling of dominance and that's probably what she reads about in books and in master base Do check almost guarantee. That's what she does. That's why I came up in a nowhere And control is on her mind because as you mentioned she needs some self control. Yes Yeah People who need self control know it and won't develop it They desperately want someone else to give them their control They want someone to control the parts of them that they're too lazy to control And again, it's projection Hashtag portion control. No, bro. Her computer's probably filled with like BDSM porn Like I can almost guarantee 80 chance at least I'm gonna listen. I'll I see your 80 percent. I raise you to the 15 I'll hey, hey, no, no, I'm not judging like no judging baby. Like you do you but like, you know, that's coming out of your mouth And that's what I think immediately So So it looks like they're grasping at straws this this chick is probably using those straws to drink the milkshake You know what I mean? Yeah, and they probably live with their mommas. They want to sit back and you know So that's how they have all you know, it's funny when she said they probably live with their mommas I'm gonna rewind this slightly She's not really speaking with conviction. All they're doing is make is is using the same retic rhetoric You have a small dick you live with your mom. You don't have a girlfriend. You you fuck a blow-up doll You're this and that and the other Watch her face because she doesn't really believe what she's saying because she's starting to think about this now Right. She's a fat chick up here talking about control, but she's a fat chick. Check it out They probably living with their mommas. They want to sit back and you know, so that's how they Baby girl, you don't have all the experts because they look at their momma because they still in the basement living with her Why are they talking about I just feel like I mean the conversation about making and this woman has party voice Um, listen one ingredient the the men that I'm party voice comes from a lot of drinking a lot of smoking and a lot of fucking No, who are great are men who have taken it upon themselves To look at these type of men and patriarchy and talk to masculinity and be like, I don't want anything to do with that That's what I see and the women and the women I feel what really Their greatness are Are women who have like been able to say, you know what? I don't I don't want to feed into that either because that's really actually a problem too Women who have who have actually been brainwashed by this patriarchy and so that's who these men are Oh my god brain. Hold on. They're fucking delusional washed. Dude. Here's the thing, dude The patriarchy the patriarchy fell 60 years ago. Yep women. Listen women in america American women lived the best lives of any class of human on earth Our culture constantly gives women chances gives women opportunity Everything is handed to women because they have 2x chromosome. Hey, y'all remember playing where's waldo when you were a kid? Yes They're playing where's waldo with the patriarchy like you're right. This shit don't exist anymore Like hello, it's not not not in america or the west yet hasn't existed for decades Like they're just making shut up. They're like they're like looking they're looking for patriarchy ghosts like ghostbusters patriarchy ghosts like They're out of their mind. They're out of their mind The patriarchy's been over for more than a hundred years. It's uh 1919 is when they passed the 19th amendment and women started to vote It's no longer a patriarchy when everyone votes That's right. We'll put there you go Spirit of justice says lani loves white boyfriend is taking one for the team. Yeah. Yeah, he's he's he's taken one for everybody I did not know that lani love even had A boyfriend. Holy smokes. Let's continue. I'm praying on don't let him pray on you. Absolutely And I feel like the clarification needs to be made people Feminism means Equality. Yeah. Oh, here we go. What now? She's gonna hedge. She knows that feminism is a hate group She knows that feminism is a hate movement. So what she's doing now. Oh, wait a minute I know what feminism kind of has a bad rep. Let me make sure that I clarify listen to this Well, this is the really hang on this is a really important moment in history in my opinion because this is a pretty Pretty major tv show They're on defense And that's this is unusual for feminism on shows like this. They're they're playing defense Which means we're playing offense And that means the tide is turning and that's one of the reasons I think they're so scared and they're so freaked out right now They're they're actually on deep. They're on their heels. They're they're they're backpedaling They're not used to doing that feminists used to getting their way like a bunch of little brats pink pink hat brats that they are So they're on defense and that's a very good thing for us. That's that's progress. That's right. That's right This is one giant shit test and what do we know guys? Let's take it back to red pill 101 A woman only shit tests you when she is sexually attracted to you which means you are doing something right Let's go and fuck me in a heartbeat, dude Come on, dude this and look at the look look at the look on her face Dude, I swear to god this woman likes painful sex. I can promise I get 100 agree That girl is being spanked hard. Oh my god, dude. She like dude. She likes getting choked. She likes getting her hair pulled She likes being called all kinds of All right, this youtube friendly. Let's continue. That's fine. You know, whatever You are out there raging for women to be better than men that you dress a certain way Or or say that we're higher. No when you're a man and you're a feminist you say I look at my partners We're equal and I want to pave the way so that you get treated just like us Up with women does not mean down with men. Yes. Yes Up with women does not mean down with men. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, unfortunately Unfortunately, that's what feminism is right like again. These women are trying to hedge their bets. Listen We're for equality, but we're not over there with those extreme feminists It's interesting Alan Roger Curry once said that most women won't directly identify as a feminist But 97 of women have feminist beliefs what they're talking about now toxic masculinity you living your mom's basement This is exactly what the pussy hat word feminists say. What do you think about that? Yeah, 100 agree. I mean that's that's really uh, yeah, Alan Roger Curry is right most women I know in the uk there's a huge study where like 76 percent of women or whatever It didn't identify as a feminist and it was shocking. This is like 2015. It was a big thing in the red pill in the man's sphere But yeah, I agree and that's a big that's actually the biggest problem with feminism is not these these radical pink hats or the professors that are like Destroyed the american family and all this crazy shit. I said they're able to distribute that shit into the wider wider culture Right with people who don't who would never identify as a feminist They don't now they didn't years ago and they won't in the future But a huge majority of their belief system is significantly influenced by feminism On top of that not only in a personal level, but they're surrounded by it when they go to work With the me too shit the pence rule all this crap in the workplace now the men have to go through You know man Her managers aren't fucking closing their doors anymore a woman walking for a meeting Of course not because you're fucking your balls are on the line every time you're alone now. It's crazy So yeah, they're uh, it's the real problem with feminism is not these little radical They're a very vocal minority. Yes, and they're so vocal. They're able to distribute that to men and women I mean for me that really what the blue pill is it's it's like feminist brainwashing I think a great majority of it and that's that's where they comes from is feminism They're promoting this crap for decades. They get all these these they rope in these these viscy beta males They become the little sock puppets to control of them and they're like the bouncers And then they influence the women too and the women then destroy their lives getting fucked that banged out on tinder Fucking 47 times a year and then they're 37 years old. They got no babies They're they're drowning or choking on cat hair And they wonder where their life went and they're and there's still 80 000 dollars in student loan debt for a bullshit degree to work at starbucks for the rest of your life like it's Feminism is the biggest con job in american history. Like it's fucking it's fucking nuts, man It's against and against all people too. It's crazy. And this is why they're afraid of 22 convention Because we're taking this And we're going to turn it into a dichotomy. So these ones that are in the middle are going to have to pick a side Either they side with these shrill harpies Or they go over to us they either side with the guys that you know made that video a couple of days ago I think he's some sort of a comedian or musician um at that beta guy And they either side with the effeminate men or the masculine men, but they have to pick a side So that's why they're uncomfortable when people are forced to pick a side They get uncomfortable And then we're making them uncomfortable and then we see this reaction and those that are really Hardcore feminists they're even more uncomfortable because they know that most women will not pick their side Not only have we made this real, uh to them We've made this tangible Right, like this isn't like this isn't an online convention Dude 99.9 of red pill and men is for related content is on the internet No, this is out in public where people can see and shake your hand people can so so This event like what this has become This has the potential to make a global impact because it's not just online You can't flag at the 22 convention. You can't report the 22 convention You can't give a thumbs down to the 22 convention. Well, they can still harass it and they're trying to They're trying desperately to find the venue to call in man They want to basically call the management and just call them 27 times a day to get us to cancel Scream at them racist misogyny sexist blah blah blah all this bullshit to make up You'll see that in the show in a minute too. They actually call us racist and sexist and all this crap They're just making shit up. Yeah, but they are they are trying to find the venue to cancel the event though Because they're a bunch of canceled cultural losers. They don't respect rights like free speech and freedom of assembly Yeah, but you make a you made a really good point that donovan Um a second ago, uh, I can't remember the words you just used. I'll think about it in a minute I'm still waking up. All right, uh big thanks NYKIA 31 with the $5 super jet says there is no one on the planet more privileged than western women I wholeheartedly agree the more women get the more they want Aston spades with the $2 super jet says if there was a patriarchy this show would not exist I totally I 100% agree. I think the word you were looking for was uh tangible Brassed up mustache with the $2 super jet says they're just repeating empty rhetoric to feel good One that's all they're doing you live in your mom's basement. You have a small dick blah, blah, blah, blah And of course all the all of the fatties in the in the audience sure Donovan that was a really important point you made that's what I was thinking about is how tangible the event is And that's why it's a threatening to them. Yes. And so 22 convention. I've talked about this for years with the 21 convention Uh, because in the atmosphere, you're right. Most things are digital ebooks videos, you know courses and blah, blah, blah But the real life stuff there is a little bit, you know, the war room for carpetate They have their thing. Uh, hunter drew has the fraternity of excellence meetups They have one coming up soon in florida and the northwest part Um, obviously we do 21 convention and the fatherhood edition now and stuff So the real life things though, they're very threatening to people They're threatening because they're very powerful when you meet up in person real life relationships and these experiences Like the guys the attendees are supercharged. They walk they walk into the event. They want to learn they meet the speakers They learn 10 times more than what we teach in speeches in the podcast and stuff Because they get access to the speakers for days and the workshops and dinners and coffee and all these things We have these feminists. They see that they see how it's a real threat to them because it's real life It's not yet. It's not some online webinar. It's not some video Which is great, but you know the real life events are serious And it's uh, it's a very real life expression of that too. It's very it's very tangible. They feel it Big thanks goes out to chief rocker with the $50 super chances one more time donovan supporting your platform I just launched Uh sharp uh sharp stream yesterday Joe and why Boys should we care for what women do mental point of origin dictates that our focus is us About making us great anthony. What do you say to people who make comments like that? We should be focusing on men We should not be focusing on women. We should be focusing on male improvement Masculinity and let the female ships fall where they may. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I've thought about that a lot actually. I mean for a while now too Because I figured you know a while ago in even in 2018 We would get these kind of comments from especially from man is for guys like why do you care about these women? Let them do the thing then a crash and burn So look, I think it's very natural for men And now it can be unhealthy too like white knighting is a perfect You know extreme example that in a sense the vish emails But it's very natural for men to have impulses and instincts to protect and lead women This is a part of what we do as men. You can call it beta or whatever But there's definitely an alpha component too. I would argue So I think feminism for example is driving women in the west, especially in america, but also canada, britain, australia Feminism is driving women off of a cliff And to their doom and a lot of the damage off that cliff is irreversible Racking up a notch count of 75 is makes you basically impossible to paraben the rest of your life with a man You can't have a boyfriend. You can't have a husband You can't build a family because you've been you've had your organs rearranged so many times with so many different men You just can't do it. You're not a man You're not equipped to uh seed spray in terms of like Uh partner counts like that and now men can get burnt out too. You know, I mean look at ruche v This guy has has been out banging chicks for so long Now he made this sharp super hard god turn Which I think it's like a formal almost like black pill like he doesn't know what to do with his life He's lost so he's just scrambling to find something that feels strong Um, that's my own opinion. I know ruche isn't like me saying that and stuff in public Yeah, yeah ruche is a good friend of mine. I don't I don't see it that way I think that and I don't want to make this about uh about yeah, I just Let's use an example. I'm not picking on him. He's doing what he's doing. Hey, listen He's he's a good guy and I think and it's because in a weird way When you have dude when you have banged enough chicks I'm not gonna lie man when I was out in vegas and I dude I was doing girls dirty all the time fucking him over and You know, uh cheating on him and lying to him and all this other kind of stuff After a while you kind of start to feel guilty I can't speak for ruche when when when when I say that but maybe a little bit of guilt could be a part of that But but what I'm saying is that it's very natural for men who are especially who are masculine to want to lead and protect women And now their problems I'm only responsible for my life and the choices I make and whatever people I take under my wing through agency and responsibility Like my family and my little nephew and stuff like that But for women there does come a point in culture where things get so bad and so out of control And so unhinged like we're seeing with feminism Uh, it's but you know in the streets these pink cats and the women's marches and they're screaming Toxic masculinity the boys need hormones and you'd riddle in Women are fucking perfect angels anyone who says different to sexist like they're talking, you know Madonna's a feminist talk about blowing up the white house like These women are increasingly violent and unhinged and hysterical And there comes a point where they're driving so many women off of a cliff that men have to stand up and do something In this country and all these countries Especially fathers and husbands who have wives and daughters that they love and they care about And they need to exert that force into wider culture, which is what we're doing So feminists have worked very hard to neuter powerful strong masculine voices Just in general culture whether it's tv or movies or news and media and all this crap They don't want it. They've been working hard to do that diligently for decades Men getting together now as fathers and husbands and even single men like me and goldman speaking at the event and adre No, you just got a girlfriend whatever But you know, they they can't have that because it's stopping women from destroying themselves through feminism Which is really what feminism is about. It's about destroying the family and destroying women and ultimately destroying You know everything else too along with it. It's very it's a very zero-sum like destroy everything kind of ethos They have behind it and it's extremely negative. Like I think it's one of the reasons I hate feminism. It's so fucking negative It's nothing but negative Moning bitching and complaining about and about nothing when the women today are the most Like I've said on twitter and it went viral pretty well Women today in america especially but throughout the whole western nations They have more freedom than all of them eternal ancestors combined Yes, all of them for the past 200 000 years of human life on this planet They have more freedom than every single one of their mothers and grandmothers and mothers before them Combined and they actually have the fucking nerve to think they're oppressed. Yes, it's so far they have you know, they they have access to Things that queens for for thousands of years didn't have access to and kings and billionaires even a couple decades ago They're they're so fucking out of out of touch with reality and on hinge. It's it's ridiculous and it's got to stop It's going to destroy it's going to destroy the west We can't have families and we can't continue our countries if if women and men With masculine women and feminine men. It doesn't work. It's just going to it's going to fall apart into some soviet shithole Big thank you to uh, tennessee man boy with the five dollar super with the five dollar super chat says only if one represented Could go on this panel from the man's sphere. It would break Viewing records guaranteed ace and spades uh laughs that she had her organs rearranged that that was actually uh, that was actually quite funny That was actually quite right. Let us continue the video They believe that right. They probably also but they're probably also racist homophobic transphobic. Yeah Like this is the gateway It really scared of women, you know, that's the reason why we haven't had a strong dude. Oh, listen Dude racist homophobic. This is the gateway drug. Well, and then she says we're scared of women now Hold on I am scared of the woman on the screen like i'm not gonna lie. I wouldn't fight her I wouldn't do it. I would not fight that big bitch. No, sir Like I would not create punches with her I probably take off that hair hat that she's got on but but all jokes aside This is these are the shaming tactics. These are the shaming tactics. They're racist. They're homophobic 50% of the panel is african-american, right? A guy that I used to do podcast with he he calls it um It's almost like cross contamination when they talk about the man's sphere and the red pill They want to throw in all of these other things to get everybody else on board with this racist homophobic. Blah, blah, blah, blah Steve let me ask you. What are your thoughts on what she says? Well, we're racist homophobic. Blah, blah, blah I didn't I thought uh, uh, I we're white. I guess uh I don't know and I guess we're white. I don't know that's That's the funniest part to me is that the fact that they think that anthony's races ran anthony's opened the door for everybody They were anthony doesn't see color or race. He just sees man at the end of the day But but this like again like you're saying these are shaming tactics and it just it just Saying things just to say things just to just to keep rallying up the women. I think Yep, we got a comment here from mr. M says so men should save women See again, these are those are the kinds of broad spectrum type questions No, nobody is seeing save women mr. M Nobody in here says that we're saving women What we want to do is we want to show women we want to wake them up. Hey, this is the air of your ways This is how to get out of that feminist Sewage now whatever they decide to do with that information is completely and totally up to them We're not going to be out there passing out flyers. Save yourselves. We want to save you No, ain't no captain save a hose here, right? Like that that's You know, again, you guys got to miss me with these ridiculous questions. You guys are killing me Female president yet Look at all the other countries that have had female leaders and united states still has not had a female leader Because you have a lot of men that are afraid of the power of women women are afraid Oh my god, this is so nuts, dude. Yeah, I mean, they haven't even run In my opinion, Hillary Clinton was one of the worst fucking presidential candidates ever The democrats didn't even like her the bernie people hated her I mean that woman is like one of the most hated women in american history Separate from her run for these people are delusional men. You gotta you got to be kidding me Oh, dude, she's all over the place like literally and figuratively They scared a women But we as women have to understand that that's what michelle williams the white michelle williams was saying At the golden globes is that women have to understand their power. They have to get out. They have to vote Well, yeah, but here's the problem, right? Here's the problem with what she just says women have to you know Let their power be known dude 60 percent I think it was 60 to 65 of working class white women voted for donald trump What does this tell you this tells you that there are women out here who understand that feminism is garbage. They get that Oh, we got uh phone calls. All right, we're gonna finish up this video Then we'll get to the phone calls real quick big thanks goes out to jenik with the 50 hks I don't know what those are says 22 kind is covering our ass if they choose to go forth It'll be harder For them to blame shift when it goes south and it will as there will be a clear record of we told you So I like that I like that. So women who say well, listen, I never knew Where was all this information? Hey, listen the 22 convention was out there, right? Like you can't act like you don't know and don't get me wrong Women can certainly sort of hang their hats on. Hey, we've been raised in this sewage Like we understand that someone will say we you know, we understand that that that we've been raised the wrong way But I agree with jenik. This is sort of like a big I told you so So stop supporting R. Kelly and comment sections. What the hell is she talking about? Ah, yeah, yeah, you gotta be kidding me. So that now that now they bring in R. Kelly Do you see how they bring in other elements just to strengthen their argument? Ah, yeah, yeah, all right. Um, let us go to the phone lines Guys if you want to get in on the conversation, I'm gonna put the number on the screen Give me a call 914 205 5356 I can't talk and type at the same time. Um, if you're calling from outside the u.s It is 001 914 205 5356 before we get to that king nick with the five dollar and 67 cents super chat So I can only think of one class more privilege than western women a french poodle regardless There's no denying there the protected class of society. I could not agree for Let us go to ericode 973 ericode 973 are live at donovan or you're on live with the red man group go ahead Hey, what's up? It's great. Hey, Greg. How you doing? Good, good, good. You guys are ripping off my favorite show now. Don't go ripple my favorite show. I love that show, man Oh, yeah No, no, no, but there was an episode that I was watching on the real and It was an episode about low sperm counts and what they were talking about was that a uh a sperm bank in the uk closed down Because they were using actual dead man's sperm And they asked and they asked the crowd Is that creepy or is that unethical? Everyone said creepy. I said it was a porn. Why would you actually be laughing at the prospect of You know low sperm counts not one and two using dead man's sperm. That's literally disgusting I I was watching it and I didn't know whether to turn it off or to just keep watching But I kept watching it because I wanted to see Their reactions their facial reactions the crowd reactions and lots of women were cheering about that And I think it was either uh the women on the right that said it might be unethical But if a woman wants to have a kid Maybe let's start thinking about that because men can't produce. I was like, well, men can't produce because of certain reasons A low sperm count is one of them, but that's all I wanted to say Well, thanks for the call, Greg appreciate you calling. What are your thoughts on that? That's pretty crazy. I never heard of that shit. But a woman wants it It's okay Yes, there you go. When a woman wants it, it's perfectly okay as long as it's not done to women It's perfectly okay pimp down with the two dollar super chat says lazy women want everything for nothing Keep it up. You know with that dead sperm thing, by the way, that almost sounds like they're normalizing I don't think it's gonna get any real traction But it's amazing that they're even able to ask that question in public because it's like they're normalizing necrophilia Yeah, necrophilia necrophilia rape or something like that Yeah, you you'd think they would stop at trying to normalize pedophilia, which is insane But they actually are now it looks like they're moving it to normalizing necrophilia And Yeah, that is unreal. It's like whatever women are so over protected and overprivileged They're able to just get away with murder in public like that And that's that's fucking that's horrifyingly disgusting. Yeah, I agree with the caller Listen, brian coley puts a comment that says if the eggs of dead women were harvested, what would the reaction be? Yeah, it would it would absolutely be fucking apocalypse. Right? Yeah, like that's what it would be That's what it'll be. All right. Let's go to the back to the phone lines airycode 9 to 2 0 You're on live with the red man group. Go ahead. Hey guys I was just calling because I wanted to address the problem we had with marxis rhetoric The kind of tricks they employ with their words and stuff. Okay, that stuff is as long as ancient greece That's the same shit that they would try to do, you know Like socrates and stuff and that's why you know the philosophy is what you know was always the An adult, you know to that poison that they put out there And that's why socrates got killed and that like Everything with them. It seems it's like a trick with words like they'll call you a certain name Does this refer to you a way to create a straw man out of you? But like if you had to actually ask them what they exactly mean by something What exactly they're claiming they couldn't do it and if that's true and stuff they'd go crazy Yeah, they couldn't do it right and I I totally agree with the marxis Listen, I totally agree with the marxis rhetoric the comments that they make and I get a lot of this when guys call my show Who who try to challenge me on the air? They make some sort of and I agree with you It's marxis rhetoric, but they try to say it real quick and then glaze over it Right like one guy called my show and said well your views on feminine He said don't even you're the best or the greatest but and your views on your views on feminism You know are problematic, but you have the best content. I was like, whoa, wait a minute. Hold on We got to go back like they try to glaze over that. I'll give you the last word Yeah, man. Well, just like that woman. She went and listed off all those things one that sounds and looks like She smoked three packs a day. She was you know, she's doing exactly what they do, you know, and like it's this is old you know, this is old methods, you know, it's not new and it's like Semantics, you know the studies of words and meaning, you know, that's what I'd really really interested in and how that can You know be used against this. So, you know, that was just all I was gonna say Well, thanks for the call airycode 920. Let us go to airycode 514 514 yard live at the red man group Okay Hey, donovan. Hey gentlemen, the pleasure to have you all here. Happy chinese new year. By the way live from hong kong Uh, i'm just gonna bring some comic relief that that chick sitting in the middle of the panel Remember colin the barbarian. Yes, doesn't she look like tulsa doom? Isn't she gonna look like she's gonna transform into a snake any minute? She'll eat it actually That's that that's all I gotta say peace guys I don't have an added comment from earlier the we had the question we popped up the text chat about Saving women or protecting women and all this stuff So at the end of the day, you know, like I said in my speech that they aired on some of the news programs Women follow men lead So not only is it instinctive for men to lead and protect especially in dire situations, including at a massive cultural level I don't think women are going to lead themselves out of feminism And I think they've demonstrated that improved that in action for decades upon decades upon decades There is some pushback some women pushback christina hoff summary's jenny's fiamengo. Uh, dr. Helen smith There's there's a number of prominent women are pushing back But they don't get a lot of traction and women follow men So men and so we can't also I also want to say that we can't say a woman They're gonna eventually have to save themselves But they need a direction to lead away feminists are leading them off a cliff Men need to lead them away from the cliff and you know destroying themselves And women have to choose to follow us and that's what they're doing with tickets to the convention And that's what they'll do slowly reluctantly with the videos we publish in speeches Those are going to get a bunch of traction and a bunch of hate and all this stuff But slowly bit by bit Through reason and especially through emotional impact and the in the masculinity that we present in our speeches That's very positive and very genuine and very benevolent I think we can lead millions of women away from this toxic feminist crap And it's not and a lot of it, you know, these people will attack us and say you can't uh You can't logic with women at all and I don't think that's exactly true What I think is more important though is that we're very masculine and very strong and very powerful And that we get up in public and speak and that alone That action is what will leave them away from feminism Not it won't even be the words and ideas so much as it is The personality and the presence and the masculinity that we bring to the stage the positive masculinity that they're starving for Especially these women on the panel We just looked at but millions of american women and canadian women and stuff are desperate for masculinity in their lives And that's what we're doing. That's why they're so afraid And again, I think it's very natural though for men to want to do that And we should do it at some select points and not But not become white knights in the process, which is a slippery slope Uh, so we have uh, georgia, uh in the in the chat here says women shouldn't have basic human rights Make women great again. Am I right? You guys are such incels and of course she misspelled it number one georgia We know you look nothing Like your avatar there number two no one on this panel is advocating for women not to have basic human rights No, we want women to be feminine. That's why shows like this exist. No, what are your thoughts on statements like that? Women shouldn't have basic human rights. How dare you you guys are incels It's a shit test what she's saying is I'd be okay if you tried to take some of my rights away and I want you to prove I'm not an incel that you're not an incel by pleasuring me until um, I can't handle it anymore That's what they're asking for. Yes. She it's a shit test and She's shit testing because in her life. She probably shit tests every man. She knows and he fails And so they're desperately looking the the closest they can get to a masculine man in their life Is someone they're finding online? That's what that's how they're shit testing us. There you go The the women that are happy they don't message us except for occasionally like a positive message They're probably not even online. They're busy with their their kids and their husband Yeah, uh, yeah, georgia. Um, listen It is what it is. Um, I think I think women like georgia Um, like I said, what georgia looks nothing like her avatar number one, uh, number two georgia That's the kind that's the kind of woman who knows she needs the 22 convention So, uh, so let's let's uh, let's start go fund me page for georgia to get her the ticket To the 22 convention. Let us go back to the phone lines area code two one six You're on live with the red man group go ahead. Hey, what's going on fellas? What's up, man? Yeah, I had a question. I think this um, this movement is excellent But um in the long run, how are we going to compete with the institutions in their radical leftist propaganda? Like the public school system the media radical liberal leftist groups Um, the list goes on and on how can we how can we compete with that? That's a good question, man. How can we compete with mainstream media right because they seem go ahead They're too powerful. I mean this propaganda this garbage has been shoved down our throat since I mean the beginning from preschool Yeah, but the problem is what you believe is what you believe stop making excuses, man Yeah, you you have a choice of believing what is being quote unquote shoved down your throat and that's y'all's problem Stop pointing the finger at everybody and being a victim and say look if they're saying something I don't believe in I turn it off and walk away from it But it's not being shoved down your throat. You're allowing it to be shoved down your throat, man You know, I think there's something I actually think there's something I'll go ahead click on Oh my bad. I was gonna say I'm not being a victim. I'm just saying from a complete picture the general person the general public is having a lot of um A lot of liberal garbage shoved down their throat from a young age I can happen in this and without even getting into the politics end of it just with feminism as like a cultural Like thrust I think I've proven with make women great again that you can make a significant pushback against this crap Yeah, I've reached in through our speakers and our website. We've reached 80 million people more than 80 million Just in the past three and a half weeks or something like that So it is hard. I mean feminism is a multi-billion if not trillion dollar institution throughout the west Because they they have the reins of power in divorce court family court military government agencies schools universities the workplace I mean we're swimming in feminism all day every day and it sucks and you can reject it personally and your friends You can influence and stuff but beyond that it is hard But I've been able to go get mainstream attention for these ideas Feminists are on defense, which is a fantastic thing to see that means they're losing It means they're they're not winning a debate to the point that they're shrieking and freaking out and they're scared And I even went on mainstream TV with Paris Morgan Maybe look at that video in a minute and me and jenny's fiamengo were able to take these people to task And and give a you know Given how shitty the show was in terms of like the dialogue and the attacks and all this crap We're still able to get some points across and get people interested in ideas that are not feminist at all That have zero percent feminism and thinks feminism is stupid So if you can you can make progress, but it's going to take a long time But feminism has been they've been doing this for decades like 100 years now at minimum You know brainwashing people with this crap, so it can be done The good news is that the message of feminism is very fragile. Yes It's it's against millions of years of evolution. It's against women's nature It's against everything that makes them women and all we have to do is appeal to who women really are We have to appeal to their nature. We have to appeal to the femininity which They've been naturally selected for throughout all of human history They have to encourage women to do something incredibly unnatural They have to encourage women to not have children if they do to abandon them to daycare and not spend time with them Focus on masculine pursuits. All we have to do is say do what's natural That's basically our message do what's natural. You're going to be happy Yeah, no doubt women women and men are born to are born for each other. We're born to love each other We're born to fuck have sex have relationships build families And yeah, what we're doing is perfectly in line with nature and that feminism is very unnatural So yeah, we do we do have the winning side of the argument on that in terms of like History and facts and tradition and what feels natural to women Dude women want to get wiped up and knocked up period Yes, the vast majority of them They don't want to you know drown in cat hair and drown make and they can latte the starbucks rest of life They most of them especially apps and feminism if like in poland, you know when I went there for the convention Do these women they all want to have babies and have families and they're like, yeah, that looks pretty like a good idea No one's fucking screaming at them. No one has a fucking belt on their neck in public like bitch. Make me some babies They just they just want to do this. They want to reproduce. They're a human being, of course They want to reproduce this is a living animal. Well, this is why feminists and This is why feminists and I guess you call them females This is why they're not happy because they're not doing what they're naturally programmed to do Feminists are miserable because feminism is teaching them to go against their natural programming Yeah, let's keep it real sleeping with a bunch of guys is far more exciting than being a housewife But being a housewife is far better for you Sleeping around is exciting not fulfilling right being a housewife It doesn't give you the energy the energy rush and getting pounded out by seven guys in three days Which may or may not have been at the same time, but it's not going to fulfill you right So while you might not have the the dopamine and adrenaline rush that comes with sleeping around You can be fulfilled. You can be fulfilled by having a family having a having a husband and children that love you Oh, let me get to the super chat here asin spades What the two dollar super chat says no basic human rights in the west versus saudi arabia Uh, then we had another 25 super jet from judge lot Uh says great stuff guys. I want to before we go back to the phone lines Chris palm are being a very interesting comment in the chat and we're going to go back to the phone lines 3668 your next followed by 215 510 and 347 He says has anyone noticed how extreme the gynocentrism is given that a 21 convention Can happen unnoticed for years, but a 22 convention gets immediate mainstream coverage What are your thoughts on that? I agree 100% Yeah, I cannot and that's well well put. Um Yeah, I mean we we poked the billion dollar feminist bearer by just doing something positive for women The way he's stating it is he's very accurate that we do live in a completely gynocentric Society. It's a soft matriarchy not a patriarchy There is kind of obviously a gender The gender relations are collapsing. There's like a gender war so to speak in a lot of ways And things like me too and believe women are expressions of that But yeah, women, you know men are not allowed to talk to what makes women great is mansplaining It's plain and simple women love masculinity. They love mansplaining. That's why the feminists have tried to weaponize it against us It has nothing to do with belittling women are talking like down to them It's that they don't they want to neuter masculine voices fathers husbands uncles grandfathers brothers They don't want me talking to my little sister telling her to to listen to her husband do what he says to love him and respect him It's a father your child My mother sister too, they don't they don't want masculine voices anywhere at any time for any reason Unless they are telling the viscy male You know little bitch boy line Because we're dangerous and women are made great by great men and men who love them in our relationships with them and all that You know you guys, you know the three of you all have girlfriends and wives Your women are better because you're on their lives and you talk to them and those women respect you and they look They look for your advice and your counsel and protection. They feel safer on you Like these are very positive things and feminists hate all that shit Anything natural and that that promotes connection between men and women that's positive feminists fucking hate it And yeah, we can do we can talk to men all day long, right? And we don't get noticed but we talk to women It's the fucking apocalypse. So matty weirda Um in the chat asks why do you guys think that it's either housewife or person who sleeps around So what she's asking us here is why are we making this a polar opposite discussion? Right. Why is there no in between and big shout out to nomadic crier with the $100 super chat says long Long i've got given masculinity. I'll get to that in a second Appreciate nomadic crier with the $100 super chat. So what are your no, let me get your thoughts on this So matty has said matty is matty is telling us why do you guys think it's either housewife or person who sleeps around Why is it one extreme? Why is it barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen or epic horror? Or is it like that? Is that a disingenuous question? When you're when you're talking about large groups of people and you're trying to give generalized advice You have to create some polarization in order to give the advice that works. Now, of course You should get some direct personal advice, you know Hopefully if the woman has a father she can rely on he should be giving her some personal advice for her life But the reality is is that we got to have something to do with men There's very few men that are medium producers I think it was jordan peterson that said that if you write a book, you're going to write a ton of books Or you're going to write no books, right? So if you're going to screw up your life, you're going to screw it up royally Or you're going to send it on a great trajectory. There's very few people that just kind of do mediocre Look at men. Men are either highly successful Or total losers. There's very few guys that are in the middle I Go ahead I agree a hundred percent and you and you want to know what? Yes I do believe that it is either housewife or person who sleeps around There is no in between when it comes to women women fall into one Society our culture does not allow for women to be in the middle It puts pressure on them pick a side either be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen Or you can sleep around there is no in between and i'll submit this to you girls who try to live in between End up sleeping around anyway. That's how this works and girls who sleep around can't become Good healthy wives and mothers. So they end up continuing to sleep around I'm sure they're or they try to cover it up I think we're going to see what's happening now, especially in the 2020s I think we're going to see a big turn towards like the trad like in the uk right now They look at that they have the tradwife stuff going on. What's good. I like seeing that You know, what's it is this false dichotomy between pregnant and not pregnant What about the half pregnant women? There's no such a thing. Right, right Is so so so let me ask you let me ask you guys this question to the panel Um, and he said long live god-given masculinity. I couldn't figure that out sometimes. I'm just not that intelligent It is what it is Um, no matt at crier. So what is in between so mattie? I know you're probably not still in the chat So if you don't think that it's either one or the other I would like for you to either call in or don't even put it in the chat Give us a call mattie 914 205 5356 and tell me what your tell me what your definition of in between is because I think I think with mattie, you know what I bet she's doing I bet she's the kind of girl that's going to hold up on tinder in her 20s I'll hit the 30 wall with 31 or 32 or whatever. She'll freak out She will scrub her instagram and clean all this stuff and she'll have this good girl turnaround And if that was deeply genuine on some amazing level and she's like holy fuck. I fucked up my life Fun, but I can guarantee you as we all know that 90% of cases. It's bullshit They want to have the cake and eat it too because they want to be this little duplicitous little frauds And that's why that's why feminism is so fucking dangerous because the damage it causes to these women is is for the most part irreversible Or it's very very hard to undo. You can't unfuck 50 men. You fucked on tinder That's part. That's a permanent part of your history. You can't do that. And so her question really is Can I get the benefits of having sex with triple digit men and the benefits of being a housewife? That's the real question No, and the the well, here's the thing the answer to that question is yes But but there is a caveat can women sleep with men into the triple digits and still end up a housewife? Absolutely, but here's the problem. These are the kinds of women that cheat on their husbands You want to know why they cheat on their husbands? Because the kind of men who will have them after they slept with with men into the triple digits are not the kind of men They want to be but they don't want to be alone. So they end up marrying these guys Well donovan, what if they just locked down a high value male because high value men know the difference between a woman? You marry and a woman you only fuck So again, there is no in between you can't do listen You can't hit the brakes at 30 years old and decide that you want to just be a house. No It doesn't work that way Once you are once a slut always a slut you can try to listen try as you might to change You will always have hoe tendencies. There will be things about you that will garner male attention My own girlfriend the great donovan sharp his own girlfriend Dude devin dude devin used to be a hoe like let's keep it all the way real I'm not gonna sit here and say that I think I found some snowflake. No devin used to sleep around Look at her. Look at her body. She's got a huge stitch. She's got a great ass. Of course. She's fucked around right And when you do that there are some characteristics and traits that are always going to stick with you And the only way they're going to leave you is if you have a strong man to tamp those down And even then it's sometimes That is the problem with women sleeping around is they they also accumulate these alpha experiences And the bar keeps getting raised higher and higher and higher for the kind of dominant genuine dominance They're gonna need to to be to live a feminine life And it's unusual that they're gonna find a guy like you to do that Of course like and also why would you know? It's an if the guys even want to entertain the idea of a relationship in most cases They won't but some cases they will and I can't blame them if they don't because relationships are fucking hard work Especially with women dude. I'm not gonna sit here and say that there aren't some days where I think of stuff Dude, I wish I were fucking single like dude eight to nine days out of 10 I don't think okay. I'm glad I'm in this relationship But every once in a while I'm like dude, this is this is a fucking headache. I'm human my girlfriend's human That's how it is relationships these days. It's fucking it's it's almost unnecessarily difficult to have a relationship in this day and age Um, all right, let's uh go back to the phone lines I think we had another super chat in here that I may have forgotten But I'll I'll scroll up and see oh retro fan with the five dollar super chat says women complain About getting used for sex when that's all they have to offer can't cook clean or stay loyal Charles Charles merchant says show me a woman That is submissive or show me a woman that submits herself to a man And I will show you a feminist that says she is being abused. Wow That's good stuff good stuff. Let's go back to the phone lines. Let us go to looks like we have got a caller from the Looks like we got a caller from overseas Uh, your number ends in 3668. You're on live with the red man group. Go ahead Hola. Buenos dias Don. Hey, what's up, man? It's me. It's me from belgium. Yes guy from belgium Yeah, so um, I had a question about uh my dating uh past But first I want to touch on this uh maddie question about the dichotomy between is she going to be a barefoot and housewife Or she's going to be sleeping around Actually, in my opinion All girls all their posts work the same. I've seen it in dating. They can have high degrees low degrees They can be feminine masculine In the end of the day, they all are Hypergamous let me give you an example like I dated this girl from tinder and she was like a typical threat con And what she wanted was like She was attracted to me on the first date. I tried to kiss her and so far And she wanted like in a committed relationship and these threat cons are your typical serial, uh monogamy They will rack up body counts Beyond of digits, but they will do it from relationship to relationship to relationship Now, so that's my point on the whole maddie question is that uh in the early in the earlier Um years from 16 to 25 most girls will fuck around, you know Despite the education level their background. It doesn't matter And when they get a bit older after 25 when the wall is coming up They will settle down for a more beta guy. Uh, and they will try to cover up their posts like you guys said Um, and what I've noticed here in europe is the eastern, uh, culture the eastern european culture is that the girls will Put the brake on the uh bed hopping much earlier than the western, uh girls So you you will usually see the, uh, tunisian turkish the, uh, ukrainian russians They will usually put the brakes on it about the bed hopping at age 23 instead of 27 or 25 or later than the western nieces you could say but let us touch to the topic I want you to discuss. Um About my dating life Uh, I've dated these girls, uh in the past and mostly I I can find my way with the most feminine ones um despite intelligence because I have a friend who I do day game with in belgium And so I can rack up quite some volume and date So what I want to say is that usually when I date a girl who has a degree in law in business or economics It's like when I when I talk to her on the date, it usually doesn't work out. It feels like two rams Standing head to head against each other Oh Okay, uh, I guess we lost. I guess we lost, uh, all right, bernie and belgium. That's what I call them bernie and belgium I'll give us a call back. Uh, so we've got maddie on the line Maddie weirda is the girl that asked the question. Why do you guys believe? That it's that it's bipolar. Why do you think it's polar opposites? Why do you think it's either? housewife or whore Maddie the floor is yours Hi, um, I'm not here to like talk for a long time. It's actually got shit to do But oh god How come Okay maddie first of all, swede get the fuck out of here Yeah, like like seriously like you've got you've got better shit to do like for real. That's what you're gonna do Right, listen I'll give you the floor but have some respect chic like for real Listen, we're gonna give you the floor. We're gonna try to answer your question The reason I brought you on was to get a little context Maybe there was something that we missed maybe you had a point to make maybe we could talk about it First thing you say well, I got better shit to do Well, this is this is a red pill moment for the viewers watching who are newer to the red pill in the manasphere Ignore her words and watch her actions. We got better. She she has better shit to do No, she doesn't she's spent time in her life and prioritize in that exact moment in the now The power of now to call up the fucking show and get on the fucking air and say I got better shit to do No, you don't you absolutely fucking do not and your actions has proved that and you're a fucking liar Get the fuck out of the show. Thank you for hanging up on her donovan Well, I actually still have her on hold. She's still on here. So she can hear all of this what maddie did Listen, what maddie did is the equivalent of a girl bending like Getting in front of you on a first date and sucking your dick and then looking into your eyes So, you know, I don't normally do this. Yep. Yep maddie. I'm gonna give you another chance here. Tell us why we're wrong You know If she had back in the kitchen you go maddie back in the kitchen We have had cookies we've had women call the show before and we've had some pretty decent conversations with women on the show I think I think maddie and kitten holiday Those are the only two women that i'm just like Like maddie didn't even have a point to make well first of all I want to let you know that i'm not gonna talk for long because I have better things to do with the upspeak and blah blah blah blah Oh, let me come in here and begin by insulting you and wasting time and talking cursing and talking shit Like it's such a stupid man These are women who don't respect men or environment like their haters Nope, she had a lot of cats that needed feeding and a box of wine that needed to be open And she just didn't have time to talk to us Nope, she didn't but she somehow still called us. Yep interesting I don't usually do this for the 80s time time or she don't oh listen That's actually i'm going to go work on my business right now. Okay, so you have a business making cat toys Bravo airy code 215 you're on live with the red man grip it if maddie really did have stuff to do What are you still doing in the chat 215 you got the floor? Hey fellas, how's it going? What's up, man? Good, good, uh, donovan you and I are both from chili. So yes, sir. How's it going neighbor? Yes, sir. Hey, yeah, you probably live right down the road from me Yeah, i'm in the northeast But um, I just wanted to say that I love all you guys's content And when I was watching the uh, the real show I've had Quite a different experience with a man of fear and stuff. I will post like Uh random red pill truth, although I wouldn't say it's red pill just a truth And I'll tell you women they respond differently and private Then like publicly they are starving for like real men I've gotten A lot of dms. They would like Love react to all all my shit so For the fellas out there They are starving for this type of stuff, but they won't say it. They'll keep the feminist cloak over them So the mob they'll come after them, but once they lock down a man They'll probably reveal the cloak off of them because they feel safe But they are starving for this Unbelievable listen, erico 215 is 100 accurate 99.9 of these women when you get them when you get them just one on one Because all feminism is is it's just a performance I have to act a certain way so people don't come after me Do you see what do you see when when girls put on social media like hey, I'm happy I'm a happy married wife making cookies blah blah blah blah. She's attacked like she's viscerated so Out in public girls have to be like oh men are dogs men are this men are that but when you get a girl by herself Up close and personal you will find that most of the times. She's like, you know what? I kind of understand what you guys mean and then if you talked her for a little bit longer Yeah, you guys are kind of right. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, feminists are the biggest bullies in the world, man The biggest bigots and the biggest bullies they especially bully other women who don't agree with them The minute they walk off the feminist misery plantation They get screamed at and yelled at and cursed at a very similar to how we're treated by speaking up and talking to women So, yeah, it's it's just disgusting, man And I think that's one of the reasons they got really mad at the page the sales page for 22 con As if there was a line at the beginning that said, uh, you can you no longer have to give in to the toxic bullying feminist dogma But those couple words strung together is the first time that's been said in at a major level They got made her attention and it really has highlighted the uh, the The duplicitous, you know, fake bullshit the fake mask of feminism They're all these little angels and little pink snowflakes and little unicorns They're just about equality and you know, virtue signaling bullshit And when you rip that mask off like we did you reveal these these fucking nasty bullies who hate men who hate themselves Who hate women and especially who hate women who want to be feminine and embrace motherhood and family and shit like that And no one's forcing it's i'm gonna do that They just want to look at you know, look at the wives here and look at tanner guzzi's wife. I don't know drew's wife These women want to It's very natural if women want to get Pregnant and have babies and build families and the minute they do that before the age of 35 They just get screamed at by these feminist nasty little pink Bolsheviks disgusting Because bullying gives them power and power gives you a massive dopamine hit they're literally drug addicts and their drug of choice is bullying other women And you know, we're we're a bunch of guys who literally don't care what they think And we still you feel the attack On you, you know, I had to ban like 20,000 Names off my facebook page for being constantly bombarded with attacks Because it was making it unreadable in the comment section Feminine women gentle Nice kind feminine women don't want to deal with these bullies This is they need us to stand up for them And a lot of people think we're here to tell women what to do We're not here to tell women what to do We're here to protect the women that are not feminist the women that want to be feminine that want Basically, we're here to protect the women that are on our side to let them know that we've got their back Yep, so katie null katie nicole in the chat and oh by the way Looks like katie not too bright. Looks like she's misspelled her last name Um, she says have you actually met a woman well since the start of the show? No, I've not met a woman maddie weirda Who is obviously very good at multitasking as she is working on her business And trolling the comments section says they didn't want to listen. They don't get my two cents I guess maddie maddie's obviously still hooked on the show. She's one of her biggest fans Not apparently look maddie Do you respect men at all because it sounds like you don't I think sounds like in fact it sounds like the idea of respecting men has never even crossed your fucking mind You're a rude little bigot. You hate men and you get in the show cursing at us and trying to get us to shut up And yeah, bye the only door at your house in the way out loser. Listen. Listen. This is funny I think she respects us very much. I think this is why she's still in the chat I think her I think her nether regions are are oh, oh, yeah He's never she's never been addressed like this by a man ever right like she's never been talked to like this And so she's like i'm pissed off, but i'm turned on Fuck yeah happening like that's what's happening. That's what imagine being a woman today who walk these women just don't respect men They don't respect they just print they just uh, it's all this fake news lip service about equality And yet they have no respect for for men in their lives. They're in public. They're fucking rude and have no manners Low class no class bigots But they don't respect men because every man in their life gives in to everything they want Here you go, uh, not us and that's why she still pays attention Solo mitch says maddie needs some dick. I wholeheartedly agree not getting it From this guy that is the most likely remedy to her her current situation life Not a doctor, but not a doctor dream says that's what she needs She needs the deep When she's moody listen when she's moody grab her booty. That's how that works airy code five You're on live with the red men group This is great. Hey, can you guys hear me all right? He is her All right, I have a red field story that the message pretty much is that a woman's never really worth your life No, never hell no never worth your life, dude. No way. Yeah So pretty much the situation is is that my dad is a defense attorney and he specializes in uh murder cases In this case recently, um, this kid around 21 22 my age I never had any prior record Um, you know his girlfriend broke up with him And long story short, he felt like there was nothing left for his life So he decides to take the life of his girlfriend and her boyfriend Everybody survived everybody's alive And my dad goes to the hospital and sees him with a bullet wound in his head And his father is crying in my father's arms and he's saying why did this have to happen? Why did this have to happen? And I think to myself that man if this guy just had read to a content if he just knew that This girl was never his it was just his turn. That's right. Then this all could have been prevented, you know Jesus christ, man. So so let me get this straight. Sorry to make a downer. Sorry. No, no So let me get the straight girl breaks up with her boyfriend the boyfriend The ex-boyfriend then goes and tries to kill ex-girlfriend the new boyfriend and himself And he didn't kill anybody. Yeah Yeah, so now he's on trial for what attempted murder Yeah, uh double Thanks for the call airy code 510 listen, man The red the red pill saves lives guys and the red pill doesn't just save male lives It saves female lives. We got dudes out here who are so mad at women Like like, okay, so his girlfriend cheated on him and got with another dude Dude, I've been there before the shit sucks because it fucking hurts But before I even found the red pill never in a million lifetimes Would it even cross my mind to go and put two slugs on the boat them put put them six feet under that's This is how desperate the situation is getting man. Steve, let me get your thoughts on that, right? If this kid were your son, what look, you know, I'm gonna play your son daddy My girlfriend maddy just broke up with me. I found out she's fucking this big dick dude He calls him so big dick donovan I want to kill my I want to hurt somebody. What do I do? What would you tell your son if he came to you like that? I wouldn't tell him shit because I wouldn't have no son doing no big shit I just don't know. I'm not I'm I'm serious. I don't there would be no son to this Oh, yeah, you can't well, you can't hold my yeah. Yeah, you can't hold my name doing cake shit like that So fuck You mean like I'm sorry were you adopted like are you? Yeah? Yeah, you ain't my kid Yeah, I'm not claiming you. I wouldn't go to the house bill. I'm done Jesus I don't know what the hell's going on. I don't know what the hell's going on. All right. Let's go back to the phone line airycode 347 airycode 347 you were on With the red man group and you go ahead Hi, donovan. Uh, good afternoon. Good afternoon. Um Uh, yeah, I wanted to talk about uh, a comment that Steve said earlier, which is also a disagreement I had with dr. Jordan Peterson which is uh You you cannot believe away the legal system The legal system is heavily feminist and Feminism is influence and public policy And uh, we can't just you know say it to people that you know your your belief and you just can't You just have to discount it out of your mentality The legal system we live in an organized society and we have to you know, we that's what our civilization is I live in New York and it's terrible here. Okay, sir. Let me see you address me. Let me address you first off You ain't on my level of thinking so first off. Let's get that straight Second off. I don't care what the fuck you think. I'm just telling you what I think There you go. Yeah, you're not a law. You're not but no, I'm not the law, but If you went to the 21 convention, you were heard that you I told guys you you have to follow the law You can ask anybody I tell all these guys if you kill somebody you're going to jail That's a law that you have to understand. So what are you whining about brother? I don't understand Let me ask you this caller What was your disagreement with what's because I don't know like you still haven't said what Steve said that you We were talking earlier when you guys were talking about the uh The feminism that it's taught in the school and so on It seems that he was saying that feminism is just this idea that's taught in school But feminism is influenced in public policy in in the family courts and in uh, This agreement between women Well, when I when I said talked about this, I said very clearly that feminism is everywhere It isn't yeah, but I said what is it got again? You don't think like me. I didn't say it wasn't everywhere. It is everywhere I'm asking you sir. What does it got to do with you? It doesn't have nothing to do with me unless you You know, that's what I'm saying, buddy. This is he said it disagrees with you on something You say that you disagree with He said that you it's uh, the someone called in and they were talking about The uh, the influence of the influence of feminism within society Okay And that that influence doesn't just exist within our social construct in society It also exists in the legal system. I think steve. I don't I think no no listen I agree with you and I think it's not just a disagreement. It's an addition to what you know It's not just the belief in society that that they're spreading. They're also influencing Okay, I think this policy and they're trying to influence Again, again, again, listen, I think My man a check this out No, I don't I don't listen I don't think he's in his feelings, but I just don't like when people talk through me, right? Like I don't like what steve agreed with what the guy said. I think there's I think this is a case of miscommunication I think that I think maybe you misheard something or or or whatever, but you know I'll say this a ddj was here like he is, you know, usually if his dog doesn't eat the paper He would say that a failure of the man is here for a long time Is it for it to be somehow politically active and feminists to what like what this guy's saying feminists have been very politically active They're hyper politically active Yes, they weaponize the courts and defend the courts to fuck over men And it's it's very destructive to families and to society and it needs to eventually change Um, so the men's right activists have done some stuff with that But there needs to be a lot more progress on that but they're not I think for now they don't have what it takes to get that job done But i'm trying to change that I think i'm making progress on that because the battle is not primarily in politics However, much that's been weaponized and they they've weaponized it a lot The battle is in hearts and minds and homes and families and relationships It's in culture and that's why I think the feminists are really scared of it This this conference 22 convention. It's not some political rally It has like nothing to do with politics almost right I see there obviously the resemblance to make america great again dub But other than that it's just about women and about men and about femininity and all these things And a stupid feminism is on every level not just politics and family court So that's I think why they're so scared because it's not just it's not men's rights act They keep trying to paint as it's men's rights activists. No, that's almost none of us are maybe my concern of it That's it. That's it. It's out there. I Say one more time. It's out there caller. Okay, do you feel? Listen Listen secret of truth with the two dollar superchats is great show jamar barn says I don't think he's trying to disagree It's a means miscommunication. Well jamar. He actually said I disagree He said I wanted to address something that I disagreed with steve the denon as well as jordan peterson So yeah, it was a miscommunication. I don't think listen I don't that was confusing. He said he disagreed with something steve said I never really said what he disagreed with so we'll just Yeah, I believe in the law. I always tell love even if you had that ticket to the 21 convention You would have heard what I said Your ticket to the 21 convention patriarchy dissing because uncle dean said something like that Shout to anyone. Um, erico 310. You're on live at the red man group. Go ahead. Hi Hi. Hello. Hello Hi, um, I When they say, um, the guy earlier said that they teach feminism in school And the map everything I grew up in in LA so Basically grew up like being taught that the democratic party was like naturally good and the republicans are naturally bad and to uh To respond to what someone else earlier said, um, they said that it doesn't matter what you're taught It's what you like believe but it took me a long time to break out of that mindset But once I did I just I'm just really Disgusted with the left because I felt like I've been lied to my whole life. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to this ideology that they're shoving is Listen, I've actually been through what you've been through It's it's actually called the anger phase and the anger phase is what happens When you when you figure out that you have been lied to, um, there is listen, there is an indoctrination Happening. I don't think anybody I don't think anybody denies that I think that I think that indoctrination is obvious, you know I I guess within mainstream culture mainstream society whatever whatever the case may be But it is very hard to break from that mindset, especially when you've been raised into your entire life It's very very hard to change your mindset. Um, you know from a you know from from that standpoint I'll say though like steve said that you know as much as they show feminism down her throats Young men and young women little girls and little boys It is ultimately your responsibility You accepted it at some point and therefore it's your responsibility to reject it And that's that's what women have to do You can we can talk all day long about how men and women are different including psychologically different But at the end of the day, they've been fed a line of bullshit. They have been lied to and manipulated And they need to reject that and we're going to teach them how to do that As fast as they can as quickly as they can and undo as much harm as they can as feminism has caused them I can't I can't save them. They have to save themselves Yeah, you go the same way when you know people say they seem to be critical because that band girl's off tethering stuff Look, I'm not when a girl has a notch count of 47 and I'm number 48 I'm not responsible for the previous 47 dudes. You know that was 100 on her I had nothing to do with that. I'm not responsible for it. I am responsible in part for being number 48 duh But I'm not making her life worse It's going to make no fucking difference in her life if she has sex with me because she's already done so much Catastrophic damage to her pair bonding. Well, I'll tell you what this is interesting, Anthony Because I get this a lot. Well donovan when you were fucking girls left and right You were more of the problem instead of the solution Dude, it's not look at don't listen. I banged the girl of my own of my own free will and volition She's the company to me, right? It's that's not my fault. I'm a man I'm going to try to fuck you because I'm a man and that's what I'm going to do, right? She's done with dozens of other men before you too though 99 of the time at this point I listen I tell listen I tell I tell my guys this all the time You have to have the mindset with the girl you're with listen You're gonna have to protect you're gonna have to protect yourself from me because I am going to try to fuck you Like you look like you could have the makings of probably a long-term relationship But if you let me fuck you on the first date, that's out. That's a wrap I am going to try because that's what I do, right? I might say different I just expect all women to fuck me immediately pretty much Well, you do it as a shit test, right? You both you do it for two reasons because because number one you you you're trying to fuck But number two, that's a shit test You want to know how to shit test a woman try to fuck her on the first date If she fucks you on the first date, she's failed the shit test No, do I just stop fucking her? No, dude Fuck her let the good times roll But you now know that if you have sex with a female on the first date Then she is not long-term relationship material now just because she doesn't ban you on the first date Doesn't necessarily mean that she isn't a hoe girls are very very good at sort of Being nice, right? They're very good. They have that phds and hide my notch countology We have a lot of whores out here pretending that they're Madonna's But girls can't keep up the charade for long guys They can keep it for one maybe two months max after a while their true colors are going to show My bigger concern is really like looking at not even notch kind because you can never really fucking know what it is There's no unless you get let's you have a magic wand to get inside of your head You don't know But what you can look at is family structure What's her family like where she comes from how close and how positive is relationship? She has with her mom and her dad for others especially Male relatives if you get to know them And also I always say that the ultimate notch contest is watching how a woman interacts with you Whenever you have sex first date second day third date, whatever the fuck Watch how she interacts with you in sex and that's going to tell you everything about her sexual history Down to the micro nuanced detail. Is she nervous? Is she it's how does she play use her hands and things like that? That will tell you which in the heat of the moment How she really how much experience she has sexually And that I think is the biggest tell you can look for with any objectivity to it You have to watch for things that she she doesn't know you're watching for Watch for the small details and I've said this before and I'll say it again. Watch how she handles your dick I know that's kind of crude or whatever But end of the day that is the ultimate test of how many dicks she has had in her hand Watch how she actually watch how she uses it or sell her hands and stuff Alpha for beta bucks with the five dollar superchats is kill yourself for a woman We laugh at shit like that in the manna sphere Nomadic crier with another $50 super chat says make men red again wolves 2.0 Asks the 22 convention is $2,000. How are females going to afford that if most are broke as fuck dude We can make time and money for things that are important to them. Steve. What are your thoughts? This is okay Well, you don't understand they can afford it because they have a bunch of suckas out there that they already got Lined up as bank accounts They can get whatever they want when it y'all guys women spend like you're saying donovan women don't spend their money They spend your money right spend their money They spend their money on guys like anthony Noah and donovan they spend that because that's an investment But anything else they're gonna get that from somebody else to uh, they're gonna fund Their trip and their hotel stay just for a selfie Now i'll say this too though the price is not Almost it's unlikely anyone will pay $2,000. That's the price of the ticket if you show up Literally made first right the right now the ticket price per woman is 500 bucks So the 2000 is just fake news kind of hoopla. They're they're just trying to look at anything to attack it with The tickets are the tickets are a thousand bucks and you can bring a friend free So it's 499 dollars and 50 cents right now to attend So it's not that much money. It's a three-day conference too. These people are this is bullshit 10s of thousands of dollars on weaves and makeup and shoes and clothes and massages and Nails and other kinds of crap. Yeah, they can come up with a few for themselves. That's bullshit They're doing it to attract a man and we're telling them how they can take all that investment They've already made and get the most out of it and not have to spend $2,000 on fake products to attract a man Right and listen and I agree with no 100% dude women get fake hair fake nails fake Does they get breast implants and all the other guys stuff? You can come up with a couple 100 bucks You can come up with a few hundred bucks to to try to make yourself great again Let us go to area code 817 area code 817. You're on live with the red maker. Go ahead Hey donovan you guys got me. Yes, sir Man, it is a pleasure to be able to talk to you and especially having these other red pill guys on Just want you guys to know it's an absolute honor to talk to you. Thank you Hey, I want to bring something a little bit different to the conversation if that's okay. Sure. Sure. I am Happily married man 20 years Have a great wife my kids in the office right now playing abc mouse Just hanging out here to speak to you guys One of the things that happens When you're married as long as I am and I've kind of had this epiphany over the last couple of years And this might not apply to you know, some of you guys in this conference But being married As long as I have been you realize after time and especially after coming across channels like you guys That marriage over time really beta Really beta is your ass It really does and as much as you might try to Believe that not to be the case It does and when I finally looked around And just realized that I was a soft guy that I was a Hudgy guy that I was a guy that the I was turning into the guy that the feminist out there wanted to create right and When I began to realize that I thought you know, I went to youtube to find some channels I found yours and a few others And I realized these are the guys that are going to help me revitalize myself They're going to help me revitalize get my alpha back and get Give me somebody that my wife is more interested in following again get you know get her back as well You know, I'm not I don't want to become The alpha guy because you know blow up my marriage and you know do this other kind of ridiculous stuff I want to get it back to what it used to be And one of the issues I see Is I don't know if your channels are and I don't know if any of the callers would back me up on this I don't know if your channels are being Listened to by married guys in my case long time married guys, but to be quite honest, they should be Yeah, yeah, so we have fun in married guys A message for me as for any single guy out there Okay, you want me to go first on this? No, or would you like to go first, sir? I'll go first. Okay. Go ahead. You start The key um Marriage makes you more of who you are If your alpha marriage makes you more alpha if you're beta it makes you more beta It accentuates you as a man In whatever you are and you're gonna find out who you are when you get married Because if you don't your wife will pick and pick and shit test you until you become whoever you are Mm-hmm And and that's good. Look at that is a good thing your wife shit tested you You realized that you were shifting into a beta mindset and now you're coming looking for a solution Your marriage, you know who you were you didn't know before I got to back that up 1,000. I think I was in the nail on the head with this and I'll add that Uh, you know, you're experienced with it. If that's what you've been through I hear you man. Like, you know, there are thousands of men like you who who would uh echo what you said, but I think Noah's right and on top of that Uh marriage only has the potential to do that to you through the method that Noah's talking about A lot of men they're married for a long time and they're fun. They're gonna they're still very awful very masculine On all that so it's not just this shit show that That you these horror stories you're in the internet There's plenty of them dead bedrooms on reddit is a really good example of that And beyond I mean if fidelity all kinds of stuff, but it doesn't have to be that way It's very it's very possible to have a long term positive healthy relationship Where you're completely complete keep the frame Lead your family lead your relationship and lead your marriage And that's it and your woman's very happy because of that because you're a fucking leader like you should be Right. Uh, well, let me just say something real quick. Uh, uh, sir. I've been married 20 years. So the witch is saying it's horseshit Okay, because uh, the truth of the matter is is rule number one You allow a woman to do with she's going to do what you allow her to do That you're sitting around saying you're you're making all of the excuses that Because you're in the in the in marriage for 20 years you become a beta That's your choice that you decide to make sir. Nobody told you to make that decision But I ask you the question When's the last time you sent your wife a me email asking her how her pussy was When's the last time when she walked in the door you touched your ass When's the last time when she took a shower you jumped in the shower with her When's the last time you did something for her without her having to tell you to do something like I say I've been in 20 years and I ain't no bitch. I'm good. I don't have no problems with my woman I hope you can tell I am a man So what you're saying is I don't want you to scare people You just need to learn more about you and don't feel like you're the like that's the norm for every guy We always say you don't have to get married because you have people on here are not married But you do have people who on here who are married. So I'm saying to you is the the It's not the fact that you're your marriage is the doll. It's the fact you have made it dull It's on you sir So you need to learn what you need to do to be more of a man and your woman's eyes So she'll rip your clothes off every day And and smash and do all the things y'all were doing with your teenage brothers But no one was absolutely right on what he was saying Yeah, listen I cosine on that with no 100 Marriage There are a few things in this world that reveal a lot of people say adversity builds character. No adversity reveals character, right? Um marriage and a long-term relationship that let that really lets you know whether you're an alpha and I don't I try not to use the word alpha male, but it's shorthand for just being a masculine a traditionally masculine man knows that hand of women, but Anybody can be captain fucking mr. Alpha male when there aren't any feelings involved, right? It's easy to it's easy to not let a woman get away with something when you feel nothing for her You don't give a shit You're just trying to fuck her you got six other girls who gives a shit But you actually feel something for the woman if you're actually married to the woman if you love the woman if you're living with The woman there are feelings involved That's when your true characteristics come out Are you still going to demand her best even though she lives with you? Are you still going to tell her no even though you are married to her? Can you remain traditionally masculine? Can you remain the head of your household when you are married or in a relationship? A lot of guys can sleep with a lot of women that doesn't make them alpha Being a red pill guy and sleeping with them and that doesn't make you red pill You can be a red pillar. You can all you will only know how red pill you are a lot of guys think man Okay, so i'm sleeping all of these girls I wonder how red pill I am I wonder how alpha I am Get into a long-term and term relationship and you will quickly figure out whether or not you are alpha or not So I totally agree with that Yeah, it's easier to run a game on women who don't know your weak spots Yes, but if you run a game on a woman that knows you inside and out That takes you up You know it. No, let's do that marriage is the biggest Sorry No, no, listen. I I totally I totally I totally agree with that man No, I hit that he hit the nail on the head There was a question earlier you had up to donovan about cursing and obviously on the show like we curse a lot Especially me At the convention, you'll probably see a lot less of that public speaking tends to tone that down Yeah, I think just due to the nature of what it is. I'll probably still curse, you know a bit We'll see I might tone it down on purpose because it's gonna I need to reach a younger female audience Gen Z 19 20 21 year olds that's so on influence to avoid the feminist, you know, hellscape So you'll see that but guys like me and hunter will still probably drop some f bombs That's how men talk it's part of being masculine women should generally not curse. It's not attractive No, unless you're like a hooker. I mean I whatever You whatever You know, you should avoid I have now I I think for the last three weeks I don't allow devin to swear like something. I don't know. Maybe it was the other Maybe it was the richard cooper doppelganger that we had on a few weeks back Oh, he didn't mention yet I set rich cooper and I remember he was on and he because I learned a lot from that guy and he said Listen swearing is not feminine. I was like, you know what it's not when devin swears or when she cusses a lot Even her tone of voice when she's being feminine, she doesn't swear, right? But when she swears she's got this masculine energy. So I'm like, yo, what's your fucking mouth, man? And she never says, well donovan you swear. No, of course not. I got tattoo. Listen, I got You can have them Yeah, that's right. The only time women should swear is in the bedroom and that's that's pretty much it Yep Men men have the option like if you're if you're hardcore christian and all that you have a faith that prevents you from swearing You should follow your ideology of your philosophy that guides your life Go ahead. You don't masculinity doesn't force you to curse It's just an option of being bold and provocative and public and speaking like however you want And not and not caring so much about social norms and trying to fit in women need to be feminine And with the exception of toxic feminism, they need to fit into, you know, family structures and social structures like that The communities Yeah, and swearing like a sailor is not part of being feminine under any fucking circumstance Just like getting covered in tattoos is weird. Yeah, that's Yeah Even even christian women swear when they're getting dicked down by the right State of mind what the five dollar super chat says to the previous two on five caller men have to control life around them at all times And not let let life control them easier said than done But it still absolutely has to be done, especially when you're given sort of faulty tools Um, let us go back to the phone lines. Uh airycode 906 906 You're on live at the red man group. Go ahead Hey, don't I'm a good talk to you again, man. Yeah, you too, man Yeah Noah you said, uh, you guys aren't political We're at the 22 and the 21 Well, they are political They're pushing that Marxism bullshit Feminist feminism is Marxism It's just like socialism communism Nazism fascism all that bullshit. It's all the same shit Right, so while you're fighting them without using politics They are using politics It's all political for them reads all olenski shit Right all of his rules all of his shit I mean, that's what you're up against That's why they're training these kids in school from great, you know kindergarten on to be feminists and all this other shit because What you learn between the age of when you can start talking and to about 11 to 13 That's like set in stone, right You you you have a very hard time getting rid of that shit once they've put it in there That's why indoctrination happens with the kids instead of adults because you know, you tell one of us women are wonderful We're gonna be like fuck you We know color I'm not saying we're afraid to confront the idea of politics and examine it. I don't have an issue with that I've probably been leading the charge on that With the exception of the men's rights people who do that like all day every day What I'm saying is make them a great again. It's not a political rally. It's not a trump rally It has no affiliation with what they're doing The name the meme or whatever the slogan is a similar So there's no talks at the conference to my knowledge that are just going to preach to women about what to believe politically But all the speakers I think are aware that feminism is very politically active And that that is a problem that one day has to be dealt with in the meantime We're dealing with relationships and family and culture and masculinity and femininity which are deeper issues That give like uh politics they say lives downstream from culture and I believe that to the bone So we have we're dealing with things that are even more important that In spite of how a weaponized, you know, feminism has turned the course against us and stuff That has to get dealt with someday but right now it's they they control the reins of power there very very much So yeah, it's really let's give a billion dollars sent around. I don't know how the fuck you're gonna change that That's good. Yeah. Yeah. I I I just want to say to the to the caller Um, what would I what I don't understand and hope you can help me understand help me over stand not understand but over stand I don't I excuse my french. I don't give a fuck how political she is when she's in front of me She ain't right on what I feel. I'm torn her back into water She can feel whatever she wants to feel with whoever she wants to feel and like anthony said it's out there It's out there. It's running rapid. Absolutely. But I think you These women are coming to the 22 convention to hear men talk Not not to for us to it's not for us to sit in a bunch of chairs on the stage and we listed it in wine No, no, no, it's not like that They want to they in order for them to learn like anthony's saying in order them to learn How to be better women for you men they need to hear it from men first So whatever they think that's not going to come in and we're going to be sitting there listening to them Wine and have uh cuddle parties and stuff not having that we're going to tell them and explain to them Why they need like anthony's saying they need to calm themselves down and be more feminine So political that's not even going to be happening in my opinion anthony. I don't can't see it happening Yeah, and I have no interest either in dictating to people what they believe politically And I'm much more interested in the cultural relationship elements, which again, I think are much deeper Men and women have men and women have been fucking and getting along and fighting Since literally the dawn of our species It predates civilization and fire in the wheel Like these are much deeper issues that have and that's why this is so complex That's why we can talk endlessly about these issues and men have been talking about this romance and intimacy and love and women Forever and we'll keep doing it forever as long as we're fucking homo sapiens So yeah, it's just it is what it is man. All right, so we're going to get we're going to get the ladies On the show here. So lorna from london says i've had women bully me because I respect men I'm beginning to notice many young women have low mental standards almost bordering on retardation This just goes to what you said earlier when women actually Voice out loud that they respect and love men there and if lorna from london, I assume she lives in london I do that's that that's one of the feminism headquarters, so homemaker calling Um says I think we need to she so she asked us if we could tone down the uh, we could tone down the language She says I think we need to talk to women like ladies no cursing, but I guess If I want them around no cursing, it's better to get them in a christian group. Thanks for the response Homemaker calling I stand corrected. Here's the thing christian groups are not good for young women Okay, at least the christian groups now because christianity as is as infiltrated by feminism as any other group in america So so and I and I get it if you want a lady to act like a lady you have to treat her like a lady So I get it So if you want a woman to you know, if you want to reach younger women Just like anthony said and I guess it stands to reason I suppose we could kind of try to tone down the swearing But let's go on Let us go on to more perting matter So I've got maddie back on the line There's a real quick counter to that too though women should expect men to be masculine and to act masculine And in some cases it's going to include cursing. That's part of the difference between men and women It is what it is. I just failed the shit test. Did you hear that guys? I just failed the shit test on the air You're a hundred percent right. You're a hundred percent right The way men act are not the way women are supposed to act, right? The more masculine you act the more feminine women become, right? So a woman is not going to be feminine if you tone down your masculinity and part of masculinity is swearing sometimes So listen, I rescind what I said, uh, homemaker calling, um, if you've got christian sisters watching They're gonna have to understand that the truth is often Unpretty and unfiltered. Um, don't pay attention to the cuss words. Pay attention to the message. That's all there is to it Um, good stuff there. So see even even the great donovan shark can fail the shit test every once in a while I figure it's because she was an older lady. She wasn't really a troll, but whatever. All right So I've got maddie back on the line and um, I guess she's done Working on her business. Uh, let's hope let us hope that round two goes a little bit further now Now maddie before I bring you on i'm not gonna hurl any insults at you. I'm gonna give you the floor I if something tells me i'm gonna regret this something tells me i'm gonna regret this But I could be wrong maddie. I've got you back on the line. What say you Hi, I was just I just have like a few questions. So my first one is what is your stance on women who are not attracted to men? You want to know what my what my stance is on women that are not attracted to men? Like what? I don't know. Is that what you're asking? Yeah, like y'all's a collective group because I don't hang on hold on hang on hang on I don't have an opinion on women that are not attracted to men. I just don't have an opinion on that I just don't that's just all my opinion is I remain skeptical. Yeah, I mean dude all chicks prefer dick, right? Like that's that that's that's that's kind of what it comes down to Yeah, but the end of the day too, though If if you're legitimately lesbian let's assume that's true. You know one like I don't really care Like we don't have it. We have we have a one-way speaker speaker Let me be clear. We have a gay speaker speaker the 21 commitment jacked on about it. Yeah, yeah And nobody fucking cares and it's not an issue I think so listen I could be wrong maddie, but I think your question was an attempt to try to make us out to be homophobes But I digress question number two, please I'll actually let me respond to that. That is not what I was saying and Because you guys have like what you're saying implies that women rely on men So I just wanted your stance on that because what does women hold on What does women relying on men have to do with a woman's sexual attraction to men because we have women out here with money They don't really We don't we have women out here that don't need men financially yet. They are still sexually attracted to them So a woman being sexually attracted to a man and needing men needing men as far as your context is concerned That is mutually exclusive. Let me add in here 100 percent of women who are born biologically women have a vagina that is made for a penis Like the idea that it's now homosexuality does incur in nature and animals, but it's like a really low percent So this is a whole fucking crap shoot a rabbit hole. We can get down But the idea that you're not attracted to men when you're born to take a dick You know, I don't know Well, well maddie maddie maddie, baby girl, baby maddie maddie Maddie maddie maddie. Look, this is your boy. He was up girl Let me tell you some girl you the reason the problem is Is that That's a true statement. I understand that you're not attracted to the girl That you are hanging out with you're not attracted to that guy Being your shoulder to cry on you're not attracted to that guy Who's a your chauffeur and the guy that buys you dinners and drinks? That's all you have So the problem is you got to get rid of the grassy lines and come across the street Over here and you will get all the attraction you need, baby girl How many men have you slept with maddie? Um, none because I'm not attracted to how old are you? No, no, hold on. No, listen, hold on. Hold on. How how old are you? I'm 16 So you're but you have a business, right? Oh my you're 16 years old. Do you have a business? Right? Like that's what like that's what we're doing now Like you're gonna pretend to be you're gonna pretend to be 16 years old. Is that what this is? Yeah, I take that back. You're too young. I'm sorry I mean, I'm happy that you're virgin. That's that's good. So you keep it as long as you can and marry the first guy That's a mess of advice. I can give you Hang on. I got one listen. I got a question to ask you. No, just real quick. I'll let you ask your question But I got a question for you. It's a two-part question. How tall are you? How much do you weigh? How tall are you and how much do you weigh? Why? Oh We even have this someone on the line at this point. He's a minor. I think we should just hang up the phone at this point Hey I want to know because your sexual market value has a lot to do with your sexual options Okay You you I don't believe you're 16 years. You know what? Here we go. Can I please? Go ahead. You know what? I'm five six. I would Listen I'm five six. I would 130. Okay. Whoa, check this out sweetie And you have a business Maybe girl, listen, you don't you don't tell me to listen, right? Like that's how this works. Answer the question. You said you're five six 135 pounds Is that is that about right five six 135? Is that what you said? Yeah, okay, so go on with your question This is a shit show Go ahead matty. Ask your question. I'm running out of patience. Let's go. We got other callers All right, well, I'm just asking like what like guys actually hit on me Like almost every single day and that doesn't make me any more attracted to them Anyway, my next question was how come a woman cannot have debt lots of debt come from college come from college So do you not want willing to be educated or like what's your stance on that? Oh, that's great. Why are you? Let me get this I'll let you what are you worried about college for you're only 16 years old, right? Like come on. Of course. She's more at 60. Go ahead. Anthony Yeah, so the the life script women are fed today is completely backwards It is the exact opposite of what they should do Peak fertility for women is about 21 22 years old You should be having children in your late teens and early 20s if you want to if rationally and what and what makes sense biologically It's common sense with respect to nature and biology to have children as early as you can You can have an education and a career you can begin that at any point in your life You can do that at 35 at 45 and beyond Doing that and getting into a bunch of non-dischargeable student loan debt when you're 19 21 and all this stuff is With respect to biology and in the narrow window your fertility exists on is delusional And this is what women are fed today is normal. It's not normal It makes no sense at the most basic level of common sense It makes no sense to go to school when you're really young and do all that You should probably go to school later if it's a good idea And I think college is probably a bad idea in a lot of cases Maddie i'm in a long-term really i'm in a long-term relationship with a woman right now She happens to be very intelligent so much so That she built my website. She built a server for me. This happens to be what she does for a living Okay, I care for her very much and her Her intelligence I suppose and her education level adds to my life So when you ask the question, do you not want your woman to be educated? Well, I think you're asking the wrong question We don't want our women to be dumbasses But when you say educated you what you're talking about is going to school for a useless degree The only thing women learn how to do when they go off to a four-year college is to sleep around So if by educated you mean go to a four-year school and sleep around and be used by hordes of men Before the age of 30 and then settle down at that point we can barely have kids to know I don't want a woman even Even putting all the garbage they learn in school aside and the the other the other crap riding the tinder cock carousel and stuff Doing what matty's talking about is what feminism young girls have been lied to That they should go to school during the most beautiful fertile healthy years of the lives when when Naturally biologically speaking is the exact right time for them to be having children And they're gonna waste that getting digged up on tinder and getting a degree in communism a phd in communism or something Like it's They can't even get out of Matty that's first problem if matty's lying about her age matty Let's just be honest. You're not 16 because 16 year olds shouldn't be listening to things like this Matty, but please understand this from uncle dean I'm sorry All right, look here. No, no sponge bob is coming on in a few minutes. You can go watch that after i'm done talking to you I'm just saying you kid is this You just remember this from uncle dean as you get older You have no value until man places value on you Right, no care how many people out there tell you and how how many times your dad and your mama tell you special You ain't special to a man until he deems you special So as long as you take that And and go ahead through your Beverly Hills 902 and old phases and stuff that you go through life and like And through college through all those guys that you're gonna be going through just remember at the end of the day Uh a man doesn't like coochie that looks like chewed up meat. So just remember that young girl No, what you got? I've had I've had multiple women in their late 20s Contact me for coaching with high five digit student loan debt Crying to me for hours because they can't afford to have children They're not going to be able to afford to have children and i'm helping them try to figure it out And how can you budget and how can you pay it off quicker? And they can't have kids till they're 35 40 years old because that's when the debt will be paid off Yep Maddie much more urgent and important for women to have children younger like that's what makes sense and this This college crap is stupid to be young I don't want to go through that that don't have to it is terrible I I you know For for like 20 years young girls are indoctrinated that the career is everything And they take them and they talk to successful career people and they They tell them how great that is women should be going and talking to these young women that want to have kids and can't afford it Yeah, I have to be talking to to get a proper balanced view of the situation. It's terrible for those women Yeah, motherhood is more important Let me just flat out as a woman from the vast majority of women 80 90 percent motherhood is a lot more important A lot more urgent a lot more fulfilling than any career you could ever hope or have ever hoped to have Sorry, not sorry like that that's what is going to make you happy is to have a lot of children No, unless you unless you're the next time rand or something like that you need to focus on getting not wiped up and knocked up All right, so matty, I have a question for you one last question. What kind of business do you run? Well, can I ask my question? Well, no, you have to answer swedish. Well, swedish. It doesn't work that way So you can I will answer your question after you answer mine capiche All right, what kind of business do you run? I'm starting up a makeup business starting up a makeup business, right? Yeah All right, go ahead. You can ask your question All right, so I actually have a few from what you said You know what? I'm tired of listening You know, it's interesting. Here's a few things we learned about matty Here's a few things we learned about matty number one Matty is not 16 years old right because 16 year old girls do not watch the show There's no way this comes up in her search suggestions Number two Number two, we know she's not 16 because she offered to sit. She offered to show you her birth certificate When you went when when you call a girl out on her lies and she knows she's caught They'll tell you anything they they have to to get you. I totally Believe me. I'll show you my birth certificate matty How in the world were you going to get us your birth certificate, sweetie? Like come on with that girls will swear on their grandmother's lives that they didn't cheat on you That's when you know that they of course cheated on you Number three matty is not five six one hundred and thirty five pounds Matty might be five six, but she weighs a lot more than 135 You want to know how I know because I asked her how much she weighed I said, what is your height and weight and she hesitated and said Why you want to know why she asked why because matty's probably closer to five five one ninety Right and I said all that to say this Matty thinks that she's not attracted to other men because men are not attracted to her Right like this is what happens. This is what this is actually what black women go through a lot of black women Turn lesbian. Well forget this. I'm going to I I like women. No, you don't like women not enough men like you So 16 year old matty wants us to believe that she's not sexually attracted to men when indeed It's just the men who are not sexually attracted to her because she's five five one ninety give or take That was funny. All right. Let's go back to the phone lines two more phone calls airy code two one Airy code two on six. You're on live with the red man group. Go ahead Yo, what's up? What's up? I wanted to um As will you guys think about the institutions doubling the triple tripling down on their marxism as far as uh transgender ideology Interracial relationships open borders. I mean you guys just talk about one aspect of feminism, but This tooth is um goes pretty deep. Okay. Well one second So you said transgenderism and interracial relationships. Is that what you said? Yes, sir Okay, all right, no, no That that's fine. Like if that's what he wants to think that's what he wants to think Listen, I'm not like obviously I am in an interracial relationship But I understand why there are people who are against interracial relationships So let me ask you a question. Why do you think things like interracial relationships are part of marxism? I don't really and again, I'm trying to learn from you like I need to understand why those are this are in the same Conversation because I'm a man. I'm a biological male and my girlfriend who happens to be white is a biological woman So I'm not really sure what is to be gained by pushing the interracial relationship agenda Well, I say it's a marxist agenda because it used to be against the law in this country And it's promoted in mainstream movies and television shows. Wait a minute sir real quick. Hold on. Are you black? Yeah, hold on. Are you black? Yes, sir. Okay. And are you against hold on? Are you against black men dating white women? Is that what this is? No, I'm not saying I'm against it. I'm just are you it's an agenda being promoted by the mainstream media There's no hold on hold on hold on now now you and I listen I agree that there are agendas being promoted by the mainstream media, right? But I want you to under I can't speak for anybody else. I can't speak for anybody else I can't speak for you But the reason why I date my girlfriend is because I'm physically and sexually attracted to her Doesn't have any it doesn't really have anything to do with the fact that she's white, right? My my my romantic decisions are not influenced by television and movies as a matter of fact And I said this on my show the other day as black men black women They have the right to first refusal our first crush is as black people black boys are with black women So I guess maybe you're somehow suggesting that the reason why I'm dating a white girl is because television and movies told me to is that what you're saying No, not you in particular. I'm just saying in general This is an agenda promoted by the mainstream media just like Someone being transgender. They're putting it in the school system. They got um library hour for children to go to Book readings by people that are transgender. Okay. Hold on hold on real quick. No. No, listen I agree with you. Listen. I agree with you on the transgender stuff But that doesn't have anything to do hold on caller That doesn't have anything to do with like if you want to talk about interracial relationships We can do that But that doesn't have anything to do with the transgender if you want to talk about that as a separate topic I got no problem with that if you're ford or against it we can talk about that But that doesn't that doesn't have anything to do with transgenderism. I'm failing to see the connection there It's all related. It's all a part of Marxism like the caller said that before Do you ever go out? Do you go outside? Do you ever go outside and meet regular like human women or do you just stay at home and Watch the news tell you how to feel and act and think because I like donovan I don't know. Let's be honest. You talk about interracial relationships now. That's my hey. Yeah, I hate like donovan I love the white women. I don't hate I always say with white women that you know, that's my little moniker But but what I'm asking you is What does it have to do with you not knowing how you are as a man? What does that have to do with you, sir? No, it has nothing to do with that. I'm talking about the point of it being an agenda promoted by the mainstream media by Um, it's Marxism. It's a former Marxism. That's all I'm saying Okay. No, you want to know call actually listen. Listen check this out and for whatever reason my chat isn't working It's failed work. I actually agree with what the caller is saying, right as a matter of fact I'll I'll actually go I'll actually go you one for the yes transgenderism is promoted by the mainstream media Interracial relationships are definitely promoted by the mainstream media. But guess what caller? They're not promoting Interracial relationships between black men and white women. Oh, no, no, no They're promoting interracial marriages between black women and white men. That's what that You see more black women and white men being married or in relationships on tv than an actual real life That's listen if you want to talk about marxism. That's absolutely where it's at. Now. What do you think about that? You're agreeing with me. You're agreeing with exactly what i'm saying Well, I can I can add to this a bit the trans gen the tranny stuff Is uh, is an attack on masculinity as I would see it and I don't know what that has to do with with with interracial relationships But okay, I mean I'm sorry to cut you off Abortion as well. They're trying to normalize abortion and tell these girls. Hey, it's normal to kill your child now They have post-mortem postpartum abortion. You can kill your child after it's born Yeah, all of it is a form of marxism. All of it is a form of marxism I'm as much as possible. Well, what's your what's your point? I'm sorry. Maybe I'm I'm being ignorant I'm not trying to be ignorant. But what is it? What is your point though? I'm just trying to you're saying all these things, but What is your point? I was just trying to make that You know, this teeth this tooth is a lot deep is a lot longer. You know the iceberg is It's bigger, you know than just feminism. It's on every aspect of society the court system public school system I would I would disagree with this because I think Runs very very deep and a lot of people want to wrap it up at marxism. They go it's just like marxism all the stuff I'm not convinced of that and I'm convinced what I'm convinced of is it's strong masculine men not always but typically They are the ones who are who are resilient Against this kind of crap and it's masculinity being pot. Look at america The founding of america the the greatest country in the world and the freest that the world has ever seen A true experiment in individual human freedom It was built by men it was founded by men It was a very masculine thing to tell the king to go fuck himself And declare secession and independence from the kingdom of great britain It took balls of fucking steel fleas men to come to treason and nearly got killed But guess what we got a population of men that's been indoctrinated by feminism and yeah You want to put that up against the institutions? They're going to win every time They've been teaching our boys to be Feminine well, this is yeah, this is exactly why we're here color I think feminism was it opens a door to to these other talks of godiality is not the other way around and everyone likes to blame marxism leftism and all the stuff Right that that's feminine right there what i'm saying you're listen all that stuff is out there young man. You're right But what stories are you believing and what does it have to do with you? It's out there. Yes. We know it's out there. We've been telling you it's out there But if all you're doing is just spewing what somebody is telling you then you are you are you connected to the hive yourself You what is the solution? You're talking problems, right? But I don't hear one solution. All I hear is problem problem problem If the founding fathers said oh, yeah, um, there's so much pro british propaganda No way that we're going to have a successful revolution. We might as well just bend over and take it Until the king is done. No, they said hey, we maybe we die We're not nobody's gonna die here because we went to 22 I want to make sure because because because I don't know I I think we may have misread the caller or caller Are you suggesting that we give up because the institution is going to win every time or are you just making observations? No, no, no, okay. I support you guys's movement. I'm going in. I think everything you're doing is beautiful I think everything you're doing is beautiful. Okay. I'm just saying Um, just making an observation like that. There is an agenda No, yeah, I'm just making this an observation establishment is very strong. Sure We're gonna have to attack every aspect of society. No, I totally I totally agree And I want like one last comment. Sure. Well, I actually have a question for you Okay, do you believe in interracial relationships? No, I think it's wrong. Okay, so it's interesting Oh, hold on Listen, he's he's free. He's free to have his views if he thinks it's wrong. I think it's wrong That's probably fine But isn't it interesting that if there is something That is widespread that gets national attention if there's something that they don't agree with they automatically call it Marxism, right? Like it's interesting and and and the reason I said that is because I don't see Interracial interracial marriage quote-unquote propaganda as Marxism. I see feminism as Marxism Um, I see the transgender. I see the whole gay and lesbian thing being pushed as Marxism I've never really seen it that way in terms of in terms of interracial relationships I will agree with you that interracial relationships are definitely being promoted So if you're against interracial relationships, that's fine. You can you can do whatever you want I would just be very careful about calling something like that cultural Marxism just because you disagree with it Yeah, I agree. I agree No, you're not going to compare um Oh, dammit This is just feminine. I'm sorry. There's too much feminine energy with this guy. I need to get him some man maxi pads This is crazy to me. Listen. I Hold on. I agree with what he's saying. He's right. There is definitely an agenda But it's always interesting that whatever somebody like if somebody is against drinking, right? They're like Like I like a drunk driver killed my brother. Oh, this is cultural Marxism There's alcohol and liquor commercials all over the place Or if somebody's trying to fight if somebody a feminist feminist called the red pill movement Marxism They're trying to objectify women. I don't agree with objectifying women. That's cultural Marxism The guy is against interracial relationships. I disagree with this stance, but listen He's a he's a red blood of america. He is free to have he's some of expression and I'm free to disagree But again be very careful about calling something cultural Marxism just because you disagree with it I can say legos are part of cultural Marxism because And that's when I've stepped on them What you're saying is that I agree is it can become a crutch for anything that they don't approve of or disagree with And the interracial and I agree. Listen, I agree with him Interracial relationships are definitely being pushed by means but there is an agenda Right because I think I think that's a part of the that's a part of an and overlaying agenda But just like you said you can't like it's not cultural Marxism Just because you don't like something doesn't mean you just put it under the umbrella If the guy is against interracial relationships, you should have just called and said listen I don't agree with interracial relationships and I'm going to tell you why but he tried to marry it with transgenderism Uh, you know homophobia gays and lesbians that no Interracial relationships. Those are heterosexual relationships. You can't you're not going to put heterosexual relationships in with You know a transphobia or homophobia doesn't work that way. Those are two Mutually exclusive topics if he disagrees he disagrees. That's fine. He can do that Um, I got one last caller Uh here guys, uh, let's go to ericode 817 ericode 817. You're on live with the red man group. You're the last caller. You go ahead Got the guys. Hi, uh, the privilege to be on the show. Sure. Um, and I love what you guys are doing I have kind of like a like a personal question and I don't really know Where to take it? Um, or how to find the answer for myself So I thought maybe you got to give me some clarity on it. Let's do it. Um I'm I'm not afraid to what what what I want to try to the question. I'm trying to get answered is Is it okay to not actually care about women? like it because I'm getting to a point in my life where I'm being greeted by people around me who who've made it work. They've made the marriage thing work. They've had relationships work but What they the the highlights of it what they've gotten from it is not appealing to me Okay. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not afraid Yeah, listen if if you don't like no, I totally agree man If you feel like there's nothing women can offer to your life that is beneficial to you. Yeah, I mean listen I don't uh, what's something I don't care about. I don't uh, I don't care about garbage dumpsters, right? I don't care about them So I don't really I mean of course I use them all the time I'm just thinking of an example But yeah, if there's no use for something in your life, then that's that's perfectly fine But let me ask you something caller. Let me ask you something. Are you sexually attracted to women? Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, and have you ever had have you ever had sex with a woman? Yeah, plenty like that's the other that's the other part I was gonna add to this is that I started off very blue pill um Kind of like thinking women could do no wrong and then I got fucked over And then it made me more red pill and I started fucking them over But now I'm at the point where if like Like even they can start to see it. So I just I'm not there. I don't care about it So the sex part of it is not even a an issue. I'm very attracted to women. I'm not attracted to what they have to offer Sure. Okay. Well, listen, that's the red pill No, no, listen, that's the red pill in a nutshell, right? Like you want to fuck women, but you don't want all the bullshit that comes along with actually the one No, I totally agree if you want to just fuck women and stay out of relationships. That's fine Um, you can say that you don't care about women Okay, you can say that but listen just characterize it like this listen I fuck women. I just don't get into relationships with them. That doesn't mean you don't care about them But you of course you you care very much about them when you're trying to fuck them and after you bust the nut You don't really care about them that much. I understand what you're coming from I think he cares about him donovan and he's lying to us because he's asking the question Is it okay not to care about women? So that's telling me he cares about women It'll be let's keep it all the way real man. You're talking to um, I'm not boo boo the fool. I listen You You care about women But you want us to validate you on why you shouldn't the problem is you don't know who you are in your name You don't know what you are and all you came from What is it a pink pick whatever pill you came from whatever place you came from you're still in the same place Just because you're smashing women you still feel the same way man You're putting as long as you put your emotions in this game Then that's the problem because you have no sense of self and no foundation Hold on. I'm gonna play good cop. I'm gonna play good cop call it because caller. I'm on I'm on your side caller. I'm gonna try to protect you from big bad steam I think what you I think you're at a point and I think I was at this point Uh a while back too I got to the point to where I didn't want I didn't want to be so concerned with getting laid and I think that's where you're at You're like, is it okay to not care about women? But you do like we all care about women. That's why we're on this panel. This is why you called the show, right? So I think what you're really I think what you're searching for is you want to be able to You want to be able to sort of divorce like you want that superpower that really just doesn't give a shit about women Other than the sex they provide that doesn't mean you don't care about women But by the same token, it's almost like you're wishing that you could become Independent of your sexual of your sexual desire because as long as you got a cock and balls You're gonna care about women on some level. Am I wrong on that? Like how's my aim on that? No, you're not wrong and to his his point. You're you're correct. Like I don't There's no part of me that says like, okay. I have to hate women. I do still care Is the the where the issue I think lies is in the fact that I can't get over the fact that like While I'm attracted to women I don't I I don't see there being a point in the attraction There's like it like you you have two callers on who are who are married for for years and years and years But their lives doesn't I mean depending on how they choose to Hang on a second. I think you're hold on. I think you're out thinking the room here Here's the reason why men are sexually attracted to women and vice versa It's the continuation of the species, right? Nothing else nothing else biologically matters Male and female species are here to reproduce and create more of the species All of the other stuff that we talk about that's all just noise, right? So Okay, so you like to fuck women the reason why you said well, there's no point in it. Yes, there is a point The point is reproduction. That's the men say all the time. Why can I not quit fucking these broads reproduction? It is your biological imperative to fuck as many women as humanly possible. It's the same with women Why do I keep fucking these bad boys? I can't I can't figure it out. I don't want to fuck them, but I do It's biological. You are attracted to that kind of masculinity. You can try not to be but you're always gonna be I'll give you the last word okay Oh, okay, I guess he said okay man that Men get to a point where what they were getting out of their relationships with women that weren't very deep No longer satisfies them. Yeah It's it's not necessarily that It's the sex alone is no longer worth it. He needs sex plus a relationship that might make it worth it again for him maybe Yeah, I listen. I know I know where he's at And it was weird man because I dude. I just gotten I dated like third or fourth stripper I dated and she cheated on me and I was like dude like I was like I can't be caring about these women anymore But I want to fuck these women like what the fuck you cannot divorce your sexual desire from your existence I mean short of getting I mean I know short of getting castrated You're always going to want to fuck women But the real red pill is how can you control yourself around women? You want to fuck that's what the red pill is about Can you control yourself around these women if you're in a relationship with a woman? Can you still remain red pill? There and lies the issue Hello, the show guys. Um, let's go around the room and do our parting shots here. No, you just you leave us off, buddy Yeah, thanks for having me on today Check me out on my website smv4k.com and you know It doesn't have to we don't have to all agree with each other But we all agree that feminism sucks and masculinity is the future And I think that's what's important is focused in what we agree about Steve uh someone in the comments just called you a chump now correct me if i'm wrong I haven't I didn't think the word chump was an insult. I thought I don't know I thought this was maybe like 1986 or something like that. What is your response? Excuse me, sir. I'm gonna show you a a ryan And you when you get messages from my clients for women like this, sir Thank you Now please fuck me because i'm so fucking horny. I can't stand it I don't really want you inside me so bad Now when ryan when you get messages like that come call me dawg because you couldn't even touch a pinky on my finger, son So i'm sorry. I'm a chump and i'm an alien nation I want to listen if you're getting messages like that. I want to be a chump But yeah, hey, hey, hey until you get on my side of the street You can say whatever you want but for all those everybody else we appreciate all you guys for listening Again guys, I want to mess with your boy the dean the man mindset Go to the man mindset.com. You'll hear all the receipts ryan Maybe you need to go over there so I can help you get some pussy dawg I think he admires you ace in space with the two dollar super chat before we get to anthony says uh, no matter what ideology Biology is still biology Totally agree with that anthony any last words my friend. Absolutely. I got some exciting announcements So number one i'll be doing a full uh response video to my interview with piers morgan on good morning britain And jenice femango was on there too We've finally got a good copy of the full interview which is about 20 minutes long on youtube You'll find an eight minute version if you type make america great or make women great again piers morgan That you pull it up, but I have the full one now the 20 minute i'ma do a response video to that It's pretty interesting so that'll be coming out of 21 studios pretty soon And on top of that i'll be interviewing jenice femango pretty soon maybe next week on the red man group will bring her on Also on top of that, uh, you have about 24 hours We'll see about 36 hours left to say 50 half off on your ticket to the 21 convention second page recognition Coming to a land of florida this april 30th to may 3rd Same thing for 22 convention same weekend. 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I've come up with a new hashtag for the 22 convention 22 convention hashtag in rich Yo, bitch um So i'm donovan sharp guys. I just launched my very own uh platform my own streaming platform I host my own videos. It's called sharp stream Um, i'm going to like i'm gonna i'm still gonna do videos on youtube and all that other kind of stuff Of my really really hard hitting content. Uh, it's gonna be streamed directly to sharp stream I'm actually going to start putting out more blog posts and more videos on my website donovan sharp.com. So guys be sure to Uh, be sure to uh, be sure to go and check that out Other than that guys, uh, we thank all of our superchatters Um for uh, we definitely appreciate your support. We even we even appreciate our haters Even when you give us a thumbs down, uh, that actually does help the video Again come to the 22 convention. Um, and uh maddy listen anytime you want to call back We're we're happy to have you on the show. We're happy to have you on the show That's gonna do it for this the 95th edition of the red man group. You guys take care