 Well, go ahead and call the meeting to order at 419. Roll call. Start here. Oh, I'm sorry. No, you're right. I am here, and I'm present. OK, yeah. OK, Alder Decker. Here. Alder Heidemann. Here. Alder Felde. Here. Great. Alder Salazar here, and Alder Ackley is excused. Great. Can we please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Say it loudly. Great. Number four, now we'll do introduction of committee members, staff, and guests. Eric Machiano, fire chief. Matthew Walsh, Lieutenant Police Department. Barb Felde, district one, Alderperson. Kathy Hoffman, city attorney's office. Chuck Adams, city attorney. Joe Heidemann, 10th district. The reader's all sides, she would. Dean Deffer, district six. Meredith DeBruyne, city clerk. Melissa Fosbunder, licensed clerk. Amanda Salazar, chair of licensing and hearing, and Alder District three. OK, wonderful. Great, we'll move on to item number five, approval of minutes for the meeting of May 24th of 2023. I move to approve. Great, we've got a motion. Second. Motion second. Any discussion? Great, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Motion carries. All right, item number six, hearing for a non-renewal of alcohol beverage license number 3475 of J. N. Cortez, L. L. Mironchito, two. Mironchito, two, yes? Yeah. Because it's the second place with that trade name, so. Got it. So, as you can see, the matter has been settled. Basically, the agreement is that they are voluntarily surrounding their license for 10 consecutive days, starting June 12th, ending June 21st, both at the 22nd. The issue here had been, while there was a violation of being open after hours, really the greater concern, even beyond just simply the violation, was sort of a lack of cooperation with the police in dealing with the issue, as well as the fact that there had been some issues previously. In working things out with, they did hire an attorney. And in working things out with the attorney, I think they recognize that they've had a few of these incidents, and there's going to be a suspension when they have several incidents. I also think that we'll obviously we'll see, I think that it is likely that this is going to get their attention, and they've already talked about ways that they understand. They have to cooperate that the only way they're really going to be able to operate properly is that they continue in cooperation with the police. So you can ask any questions you've got about it. Lieutenant Walsh can answer any questions too if you've got them, but I think this is a fair way to settle it. Any questions? I guess is there any stipulations if they were like, oh, I think the other one had like if there was a stipulation that they violated, this will trigger this, or is there no triggers in it? We didn't do any automatic triggers. That's pretty unusual for us to do that. And that's typically where we're otherwise going to look for a full-on revocation. And we were probably not to that point here. So yeah, they obviously, as part of the stipulation, they did indicate that any further violations could result in us taking further action. And we can consider their entire history. So OK. Go ahead. Thank you, sir. And this is the first time this has come. We've got these people. So it's the first time that they're being required to surrender their license. So typically, the first time there's an issue, we just issue a warning. The second time, we look at a shorter suspension. And the third time, we look at a longer. And then if it gets past third, we're looking at revocation. In their case, there was a first shortly after they took over the business. There was a second where after having actually been with them internally with the staff, the decision was made to not require any kind of voluntary surrender, but to issue a second warning. And that's part of the reason I think why I think 10 days here, it's a lot more than they would typically get the first time they get to defend it. But it's also on a third offense, this is, it's a little bit more consistent to what we've done 10 to 14 days. OK, so it's not three strikes next when you're gone? You know, if they have another incident in the next year, I would not, depending on the nature of it. And obviously, we can't promise anything because it all depends on the case-by-case basis. But if they violate this again in the next year, I have my doubts whether the staff is going to be very tolerant of that. And I think you're going to be seeing even more serious consequences being requested of you. Thank you. Can you allow to explain to us the matter of why it's being surrendered? Yeah, so in essence, they were open after hours. More than once. Well, this particular incident is an open after hours. They had been, previously, had had an open after hours. They had an over-serving and an underage on premise, I believe. And so this was another one where their open after hours are quite a few people in the tavern. They claimed that it was, first they claimed it was employees, the band. They made a number of claims about what it was. But frankly, the only reason people can even be in a tavern after hours, in premises after hours is if they're actively working and cleaning up. And it's pretty clear that's not what was happening. And the officers did, the officer who responded did see what appeared to be drinks on the counter. But he wasn't allowed in to investigate further. And when there was a request made to watch the video, to sort of back up their defense, no, no, no. This was only food, which isn't necessarily permitted, but is also not a concern as far as their license. They refused to cooperate. So there's, when you go to court, you call that knowledge of guilt. Is there anything we need to do with item number six? Are we fine? I think it's really just a report that this is what happened. You can take action, but there's no need for you to take any action, because it is voluntary surrender. Any other further discussion? Thank you. We'll move on to item number seven. RO number 323245123 by City Clerk, submitting various license applications. Class B, liquor license renewals. Application number 3575JN Cortez, LLC, Mi Ranchito. So this was held because of the incident number six. And so now that it's done, we are recommending granting per the stipulation, which is what I mentioned to you, the time that they'll be closed before July 1st, and their understanding that the provisions could cause. Is this a different license than Mi Ranchito 2? No, it's the same one. They probably could have said we were on a Cheetos use. Okay, yeah, I was just making sure I'd... The same one. So... I move to approve with the stipulations. Second. Great, so we've got a motion to approve. And second, any other discussion? Great, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Great, chair votes aye. Motion carries. Wonderful. Item number... Eight. Second. Item number eight, RO number 162324 by city clerk submitting various license applications. So we are recommending granting all the licenses on this RO, except we are recommending granting number 3007 to Ananda Marketing LLC with a warning. You may recall the last couple of times we issued some with warnings because of tobacco stain that had occurred. And this is another one that was caught up in that stain and sold tobacco to underage. So it's a first offense. We're recommending granting with warning. There are a large number of licenses on the RO that will be granted, but they won't be issued until various contingencies are met. And I can go over those if you need, but yeah, those will all be granted. They're just matters. They have to take care of them physically. Do we have any discussion? Any questions? So just one quick question. So the tobacco and liquor is a separate license, correct? It is, but when you approve the license, what happens is they receive a combination license. Tobacco is part of that. So we have you, technically we probably could separate those because tobacco is not required to be approved here, but since it's a combo license, we've got the license. If you're violating one, you're still kind of violating the license. You kind of are. Yeah. I mean, it's still an underage issue. Yeah. I'm just reviewing anybody. Any other questions? I don't need to withhold myself from this one, do I? I'm not here. I think we didn't take care of that last time. I didn't know if I needed to go through two meetings. Does it? But it did, but it went through last, so it went through on Monday night. Great. I just was like, there's a lot of places that's in here that I try to scroll through all of it. Like, am I on here or not? No, you're good. Great. Okay. So can you give her a motion for approval? For approval. With the very first step recommendations. I'll second. Got a motion and second. Any other discussion? Great. All those in favor, say aye. Any of those? Great. Chair votes aye. Motion carries. Agenda item number nine, RO number, RO number 172324 by City Clerk submitting various license applications. We're also recommending granting all the licenses on this RO. Again, there are a number on here, quite a few that will be granted, but they won't be able to get their license until they deal with various issues, but they're all being recommended for granting. Any discussion? Making sure. Okay, just give me a, what is the contingency? What is more of these so that I have, you know? So there are various different kinds. So some of them relate to funds that they owe the city. You can't get a license if you owe the city money unless you work out various plans. So there are a few people with delinquent personal property taxes. There are a few people with delinquent fines. There are people with delinquent invoices. You know, there's, I think there's even one with a parking ticket that hasn't been paid. That's one category. Another category is just having all of the paperwork that they need for the license. So there's a number that hadn't yet submitted the seller's permit that Melissa has to see before she can issue the license. So she's got to see that before they do it. Or a couple of them didn't fill out certain forms properly, those kinds of things. I don't think we have any premises issues this time. But that's another type of issue that we sometimes have here. They haven't described the premises very well. We want them to be precise. What I always tell people is make it so that a third shift officer who's never been in the bar before and happens to show up can tell whether somebody's on premises or not. Just by the... So actually his exact words. I have to write extensions of premises. His exact words. So those are the kinds of things that we're looking at. They're not the kinds of things that would prevent them from getting the license granted. But the second step after granting is issuance. And at the same time, they're actually still in business and operating. Well, so these are all renewals. So basically, yeah, I mean, if they would not provide the stuff to Melissa by July 1st, then on July 1st, they'd have to close until they get it. But then they would, like if somebody forgot to do it, then come in on July 10th, Melissa would still be able to give them the license. They could open. Now, if they waited until six months from now. But they'd have to be closed on July 1st. They would have to be closed on July 1st. And what does your department do? Those licenses aren't, do they go over and say, hey, you're not supposed to be on break? Yeah, typically as we get close to July 1, we're in contact with a PD. If there's anybody out there that's left at that point that can't be operating. Because we really wouldn't be doing our duty if we had so up now. Well, the state clerk will call ahead of time and let you know. I've actually been responsible for picking up the license and they've called me like, you've got two days. I will be there as soon as you open on Monday, right? Good. They give you plenty of warning for the business owner. So if they would wait till the time an officer needs to come, that's really on the owner at that point. Because we've done, basically sent everything but a dove. Right, gotcha. That would be the last one. So we're recommending that you grant for the staff recommendation. I'll make a motion to approve. I'll second. With staff recommendations. Okay, you've got a motion and second. Any other discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Motion carries. All right, item number 10. Resolution number 1523-24 of resolution approving the 2023 mercury racing Midwest challenge and waiving the speed restriction outlined in the 2023 Sheboygan municipal code 60-68 for voter votes during their participation in the race activities. Pretty easy. It's exactly what it says. Waving and speeding. We actually have a provision in the ordinance that allows you to do that. So it's not like we're repealing an ordinance. It's using the ordinance as it's written, coming to you and saying repeal it during this event. Motion to approve. Second. We'd be fools not to approve it. Otherwise there would be tie. Or the winners would all have to get tickets. It would not be a very exciting race to 5 miles an hour. Whoa. They're like a revenue builder though. It would be a long race. They're like, it was only supposed to be a week, but we extended it out a month. I think I could swim fast. Great, so we've got a motion in second. Any other discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Great. Chair votes aye. Motion carries. All right, agenda item number 11. Our next meeting date will be June 28th of 2023. I need a motion to adjourn. I move to adjourn. Okay. Great. We've got a motion and a second. Any other discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Chair votes aye. Meeting is adjourned.