 So, Francis, are you presenting together by the way? Francis and Samita, please come and share your work in Indonesia. I first want to say that young people nowadays have no respect for their elders. It's really shameful. So, yeah, I'm only going to speak very briefly and I'm going to turn it over to Samita. But this project was supported through the partner-driven cooperation program of SIDA. And it's still in progress, so don't expect any final results, but of course feedback is always welcome. It's a collaboration between SEI and KTH, the group that's led by Samita there. And also with the Indonesian Agency for Agricultural Research and Development. And really the only thing I want to say is that the idea of the project came out of the fact that Indonesia is facing the classic energy environment development trilemma that other countries are dealing with in terms of energy security, climate change, and agricultural development or rural development. And so the idea for the project came from the fact that they have been looking a lot at biofuels now that they are no longer an oil exporter. They're actually importing oil at an accelerating rate. And so the idea was to look at certain aspects of their strategy and see how it might be improved and what aspects of it were significant. We looked particularly at the bioethanol side. So I'm going to actually let Samita take over and there's two reasons for that. One is that KTH and Samita, they are leading this project and also that SEI signed an MOU with KTH recently. And so this is a concrete example that we collaborate together and work together. Thanks. Thank you, Francis. My name is Samita Suvera and I'm a professor of energy systems planning at KTH. And I'm very happy for the opportunity to speak to you today. I'd like to start actually putting this in the context of the discussions that I heard earlier here today of the work of SEI being on science to policy. And at KTH we are working on the idea of technology to development and science to policy development and technology to development. So I think that that passes through policy. So therefore the cooperation between KTH and SEI is so timely because I think we really have a contribution here to make in putting the technology element a little bit more stronger in that. As Francis was saying, this work actually also was very timely because it was a work of a transition that is happening also in relation to the work we are doing with Indonesia from the Swedish side. Indonesia no longer being simply an aid recipient but rather a strategic partner now. And we see a lot of policy for actually designing this strategy work. And we were very well placed because we had been working on this project on bioenergy that it started very much bottom up looking at the sugar cane ethanol potential and now we are raising that up to work on bioenergy at the national level. Bioenergy in a much more strategic way together with policymakers in Indonesia. And what are we going to say today in relation specifically to the project is really a real token because we are in the process of pulling together all this material that we collected for the first phase which was as I said much smaller and put that in a broader context and I'll say a few more words about that. Indonesia is really in the crossroads and from the point of view of energy. The country stopped to be an oil exporter in 2004 and by 2005 as you can see here was already a major importer and this is increasing. So this situation is prompting a number of changes and there is now a new policy for renewable energy in the country where bioenergy is a part. One might think that a country with so many opportunities, so much potential for bioenergy would have reached further but of course we don't have to look very much to see that this is still the case in many places where people have not yet completely understood the potential of bioenergy. Wherever you are even in a place where you have land constraints you actually have a lot of bioenergy potential. And also we have to remember that development is not linear and we can see that although Indonesia has been producing sugar cane since the 17th century it is actually losing ground and it's today an importer of sugar. A country that has had very very high yields by any standards of comparison in the world while other countries that are looking into the sector are increasing their yields as you can see here for the case of Thailand also a major sugar producer. When approaching Indonesia it is very important to understand that Indonesia is very very diverse in many different ways and geographically very special because it's a country with many islands and not only that it's geographically located in different islands but these islands can be quite different with very different traditions, cultural traditions If you have visited Bali you can hardly pretend you know Indonesia because Bali has an Hindu tradition for example why Java would have a Muslim tradition so they are very very different in these places and also the distribution of the bioenergy potential is very different as you can see here in Java we have most of the potential the production today but also we see that in the structure the mills in Java are state owned while the new industry is actually being established elsewhere for example in Sumatra and this is also very important because the context in which this is evolving is very different and when one would speak of national policy in Indonesia one needs to know that these local governments are very very strong and the national government has a very very big challenge in terms of actually bringing together the different interests of these different and diverse areas of the country into a common strategy this is really a barrier to be taken care of and when we approach also this we have to understand that the challenges that most of us have heard about palm oil expansion in Indonesia that has been very criticized but our strategy from the beginning was actually to approach the issue of sugar cane ethanol from the point of view of both actually recuperating and enhancing the potential for sugar production because the countries today as in imported as have been exported before but also while doing this combining the opportunities of creating a different type of industry and this is I think what needs to be understood when you talk about land is not land in a linear point of view is not the land availability in the way things are established today or the use of the resources is today you don't use the land for either food or for energy you actually do both and this is just one sketch to show the bio refinery you'd have multiple benefits including of course the provision of electricity which is so important so the approach to bioenergy needs to be an approach that builds upon a combination of approaches if we look in the past and most of you have worked with development that has either people choose associated approach or a market approach or a technological approach and now we have also added up to that the scientific approach because climate requires very much a scientific approach talk about adaptation for example it's a lot of knowledge that needs to be built up and again this on the adaptation we have looked at the opportunity of linking what is in place enhancing it and then adding new technology and new knowledge so that you actually can have a multiplication of the benefits and not only actually a linear expansion which is in the bottom of the criticism that often the land use issue actually is at the bottom of where the criticism is so I'll stay there and hopefully we have time for some space