 referral m Kenya kisha misнимini valна Or not. clues token about the prizes and maybe I'm tempted to ask for an event. How much do you charge per event? If it's a wedding, it has 3 packages. 3 package. I listen to clients very well. We are not blessed with the same amount of money in the same way. So I just listen to the client, it tells me I have these, and then I give them 3 packages, quotations. We have the medium quotation and then the classic. So the classic is the lowest standard that I can do. So if I give you a quotation of 50,000, 80,000 and 100,000, now it's upon you to pick the package that suits your pocket. I don't limit my client when it comes to that. So is photography a paying job? Would you say or recommend somebody to be a photographer as you are? Photography is a well-paid job, but it's very tricky. It can kill you in one day. Because you can go in a field with a group of like four people, you do photography, then all the hard disk that carries the data crashes, and it's a wedding. You cannot start telling the client we are going to repeat, we are going to shoot, we are going to do this. What happens in those kind of cases? Okay, it happens like the storage, it's affected by a virus maybe, it can crash. Yes, and every photo that you've taken maybe is deleted? How do you regain the photos? Okay, we have experts who are data recovery companies who do the data recovery, but at the same time it's very costly, it's very expensive to do that. So what happens here, if the client accepts that you can repeat the same process of recovering the data, that's the better. But if the client don't understand anything to do with the computer, my friend, you are going to suffer. That's a police case. Just go there. No, we want our data. So for instance, you've shot my wedding and I can't find the photos. How do you just sit down and explain to someone and tell them, you know what ma'am, you know what missus, I can't find your wedding photos. What do you tell them? Okay, the first thing, if I know there's a mistake somewhere and I know that I can rectify the mistake before I approach my client because I cannot allow myself direct to the client, they are committing, someone who is closer to them, I call that person, we discuss, I ask him what he can do about it, then he can advise me or she can advise me. So that's what I normally do, but it has never happened to me in such a way that I lose completely the data to a client. But it happened to me, my disk fell down and then it crashed. Alright. So what mistakes do we usually make as clients as far as taking perfect pictures is concerned? One, clients should understand this is a job and then they should pay well so that you can get a quality photo. Exactly. Yeah, most of the clients will come to you, ah, I have just 200 shillings, I need one photo, 10000, are you going to pay? No, I just want a photo. You just take the photo because of money, but I don't build myself on that. I just explain to the client then they accept and I show them the samples of the jobs that I'm doing. So that's what we expect from clients and that's what clients expect from us, quality jobs and then we expect good money from our clients. Alright, apart from that, what other challenges have you faced in this line of business? Okay, we offer restrictions, especially there are some places that we cannot fly the drones and then you cannot fly a drone without a license. You have to pay for that license and it's very expensive. And then that drone, you buy it at a higher price and then it can crash on the hair at the same time. So these machines are very expensive to purchase. Like starting a small studio you need over 600,000 to build up a studio. So it's very expensive as a photographer. That's why you see most of the photographers in Kenya are freelancers. Just have a laptop and then one camera. Yes. That's one of the challenges that we are facing in the industry of the photography. Alright, now let us do away with the challenges. What motivates you daily as you carry out your photography practices? Okay, I have a vendor. My vendors are, okay, I just see how those people do the developed countries, how do they, the way they do their photos, especially the US, India, then Australia. Those people are very good in photography. So I just watch on their tutorials. Sometimes I check the photos that they are taking and the photos that I'm taking and I try to adjust to see whether I can reach their levels. So that's the first thing that motivates me in photography. The other thing, it's a well-paying job. Yeah, it's a well-paying job. Most of the clients pay well. Alright. So tell us a bit of the videography part. Videography, now directing. Yeah. It reached a time that I was doing secular music and then I needed models with a big sense. And then a model would come and talk to you. Jared, I want to be a video big sense in a video. And then at the end of the day you find that you have not followed the background of this kid, so you'll find that the background is Christian and they don't like this sexual stuff. Exactly. Then that the parent will come to you. I want that video pulled down. That's one problem that I'm facing in the video part of it. So what happens, I just pull down the video and then I use my budget because all I talk to the client who brought the model to be the videovix and not that particular song. That's one challenge on the video. The other thing, I cannot do video alone. I need a team. Yeah. Writing team. We need the sound team. I need the camera work team. And then the props, the models, the makeup artist. So it's broad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you so much, Jared, for such great insights. But before we wind up, maybe you can just give someone a word of advice. Those that want to get involved with this line of business, those that want to make money out of it, out of that particular business and they are waiting for you to give them one word and it totally changes them. Yeah. To my fellow photographers, we need to start this business. It's very easy. You can use this camera. Okay. Yeah. So what I can advise them is that one, you need to build trust on yourself. No client will give you a job to do if you're not trustworthy. There are some people who normally go out there and do photography. And then they disappear with money and the footage. That's not good. Build trust to your client. The other thing, this is just easy. You can start somewhere. Tell your friend that I need to hire your camera. Go and take some photos somewhere. Then return the camera in good condition. That's how you grow. With that, you're going to make the money that you can buy your own equipment and start photography. That's what I can advise them. Thank you so much for coming through. That has been Jared Joseph. And of course many thanks to our ladies, Janet and Anna. Thank you so much for coming through. We really love this insight and at least let us get something to do. Thank you so much for finding time and joining us tonight. My name is Yvonne Anula. Enjoy the rest of your viewing. Coming up next is the buzz.