 We will open this meeting at 4.03 PM for our bylaws. If Robin and Steve, if you can just acknowledge yourselves for this meeting. Yeah, Robin Gillian is on the call. Steven Gillick on the call. Thank you for that. Now we'll move on to item two, which is the agenda doing here a motion to adopt the agenda as presented. So move by Helen. Is there a second second by great. Any discussion or proposals to amend the agenda. Hearing none. All those in favor of adopting the agenda's proposed, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed. We have an agenda item three is public. Okay, perfect. It's welcome Christina. Hello, Christine. I think she mentioned that because it's a ring. Yeah. Yeah, hi. I don't have any comment to make just attending in the absence of our official appointee. I'm not sure your procedure. If I should just be an audience member listening in for our own benefit or if I would actually like sub in for her. I don't know if you are an audience member, but I think with our relationship to the ski, if you have something that you think that is relevant to contribute to was certainly would welcome that today. Okay. Thank you very much. Jumping. I think that's it for the public. So we'll close public forum move on to item four, which is the consent agenda doing here a motion to approve the contents of the consent agenda. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I love the consent agenda is presented. Thank you. Is there a second second and second by Greg. Any comments, discussion? Nick, do you want to call out? No, I think it's very consistent to prior months. Total in playments. When you look at 12 month periods of time. We're still at about 85%. Compared to pre pandemic 2019 timeframe. We're still at about 85%. We're still at about 85%. We're still at about 85%. We're still at about 85%. And the United Airlines in particular. You can see that they're right now. 36% of our market share. American is just below that. Yeah. United is 33%. And American is just below that at 31%. So United just started there. Three main line. Mainline flights. A day. And then we have the flight operation heading into the spring and summer season. And American airline starts there. One mainline flight a day. In just a few months. Sun country will also start adding to these numbers. In a few months. We're only in April, but they start in June. Again, going to the Minneapolis. St. Paul. Route with Delta actually. So yeah, 85%. Getting back up climbing up. We are still forecasting an extremely busy summer across all of these airlines. Can I ask you a question about that, Nick? Of course. So the FAA just announced that they're going to reduce the New York traffic by 10%. And it looks like that could affect several of our airlines that operate out of. Out of New York. Have we received that information at airport about how that's going to affect us? No, not yet. We are tracking that closely both with. Slightly with FAA, but more closely with our airline partners. None of them have reduced their traffic out of Burlington. As of now. I don't know if that's going to remain the same. Granted that it's a potential FAA mandate. But I don't know what's going to happen yet with those particular. Routes flights and airlines. Okay. Thank you. Yes, great. And frontiers just. It's not coming back. Frontiers is not coming back. Yep. And if you look at those prior. Years, like the 23 versus 22, you can see the 1200 in the month of February only. Year to day they were around 6700. So, so those numbers will start dropping off. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm kind of switching out with that some country number. Frontier fly to. I don't know if I ever flew it. I mean, I know it was, it was seasonal. So they, they flew to Denver and then they, then they switched off to Orlando as well. Okay. I'm sure there's any other discussion on the consent agenda. Nick, I'll just noted. I noticed that the garage utilization. I didn't know that's just. Okay. Is was it like a data collection issue or. No, I just, I think you just need to update that one. Okay. Great. Great. Those as we think we talked about last commission meeting and, and in various times, and as you probably have seen in the news, those numbers are still high absolute. We're a little bit low right now. This coming weekend with Easter. And the longer weekend with Canadian. Easter holiday. Friday and one day soft. I think we're going to, we're going to see a little bit of optic this particular weekend. We're hitting 90, 90s to 95% capacity in that parking garage. One of the things that we're looking at right now is how to shift our parking to the surface lots and better control that parking with access control systems over in those parking lots so that we can have different tiers and or backup parking when we need it. That could you explain the, the idea on the landed weights. I'm assuming that there are different fees associated with the weights. That's right. So the way we break down our cost centers is the two largest one is the terminal cost center and then the airfield cost center. Whatever the expenses are for any particular budget here. We take that expense. We put in some of the subsidiary revenues that we receive heritage aviation, industrial park revenues, that type of thing, and put it into that airfield. Whatever is left over essentially goes to the air, the airlines that calculation as it's as, as the methodology is going to be. That's right. It gets calculated on a per 1000 pound landed weight fee. Right now we're at around $2 and 39 cents per 1000 pounds. So that we right there tells us a lot as far as type of aircraft, obviously. Not exactly what type of type of aircraft, what the shift is in the total landed weights. So that's a big indicator for us. And that that color coded graph on the landed weights does seem to indicate that there was a big drop from March until April of this year. I guess it's projected. The remaining part of 2023. Is that what the. No, so that's that orange line. That's actually 2020 numbers. It's actually a red line. January, February. Yeah, it's kind of stuck. Right. It's only one month. So it's really easy to miss. That's right. Thank you for that. And that orange, that drop there, that's coded. That's when sure. That makes sense. And it also looks like the orange is a continuation of the red. That's the same point in bed. We might actually shorten it up. I don't think we need to see. 2016 to 2023. I think we get rotate that. So there's not as many lines in there. Essentially what we're trying to look at is the trends. Yeah, I think we could go back to 2019. And that's the last time in a real year. Or normal year. There's ever a normal year. All right. Any other. Comments or questions. If not all those in favor of adopting the consent agenda. If you see five by saying aye. Aye. Opposed. Concludes item four. We're up to item five action items. Item is 5.01. Is the department reorganization. I'd be willing to entertain a motion to recommend to the board of finance and city council, the approval of the proposed. We're like an international airport department for the organization. Move. Move by Helen. Is there a second? Second by Greg. I cannot tell you how excited I am. Publish this document. Not to mention the team here to see this live published. And moving to the next steps. As you'll see in my memo here and the associated graphs and documentation. In every job description in here. So it's a long memo, of course, but it's a long memo. And this, this change, you have seen this in substantially similar format. In prior commission meetings during executive session, as we're kind of negotiating through this process. This is now a. Critical piece. And probably one of the most important pieces, despite many of the amazing things that we're doing, but I'll be presenting to you this year. Essentially what this is doing is adding for manager positions across for pillars of the airport as we described them. Those manager positions would report to the two deputy director positions. Dave Carmen managing both the airfield and the operational. And the deputy director of aviation administration. Managing the customer experience. Our ambassador team as well as our facilities and properties such as this terminal building. Excuse me. It also adds a new title change to Marie Friedman, who is currently the financial advisor to the airport. And this change would create the director of finance for the international airport soon to be the senator. I'm sorry, the Patrick Leahy Burlington international airport. Larry Lackey with title and his job description would also be changing that position. He would now be the director of planning, engineering and sustainability. His role did shift in his incorporating some of the roles of the previous deputy director position, including managing our grant program and our planning. Our capital planning program, along with a thousand other things under the titles of engineering, environmental and our sustainability programs into the future. This also adds an associate airport engineer that would report directly to Larry. And then the final pillar there is the director of innovation pillar. This is a brand new concept, although not, not extremely on similar to other airport, airports around the country. This has a, again, similar to other positions. It does have a couple of different job descriptions there. It's a couple of different job descriptions in there, including the marketing of this airport, standard marketing, marketing in Canada, managing our entire marketing program, as well as managing our IT and innovation sector of the airport, bringing in additional innovative ideas, policy work into the airport. We're just finishing up our first ever, as far as I'm concerned, capital vehicle equipment plan. We've never had one. Now we will have a formalized vehicle equipment replacement plan. I think it's a 30 year plan on there right now. Obviously that's going to shift us as time goes on. As well as the director of innovation would be responsible for some of our air service development initiatives as we grow our partnerships with our airlines across the organization. The financial, different than previously reported, the financial element to this reorganization has zero impact to this fiscal year. Of course, we're in April end of June is our end of our fiscal year. We are going to aggressively start posting these after the city council approves this, but that only gives us around 30 days realistically that we're going to have somebody new on the on the airport team. So no fiscal year budget amendment. This is a total of 1.2% increase on our total budget, which equates to about a 9% increase or $313,000 increase on next year's federal, I'm sorry, fiscal year 2024. So you'll see that in the fiscal year 2024 budget when we present that most likely next month. So it looks like a big number, but it's a 1.4% increase in the total reorganization cost. We have presented this and have the full support of the AFSCME Union. We presented this to the staff and the team. We've gotten some comments, but ultimately have great support across across the staff. And as you can see from the new organizational chart, you'll see the green indicators being the new positions, including the executive assistant director of innovation and marketing, associate airport engineer to Larry, manager of operations, manager of airfield both reporting to Dave, the deputy director of aviation operations. We are adding another maintenance position as part of this. So we'll have more on our airfield team. And then on the other side of the pillars is the manager of innovation. So we'll have more on our airfield team. We'll have more on our customer experience, and manager of properties reporting to the deputy director of aviation administration, that position that the second deputy director, the director of innovation, the associate airport engineer, and probably one or two of the managers are going to be a significant priority after this is passed to advertise and hire. Can I just ask a question? Yeah. I have a question for you. Naming the leadership team. Is that. You, the. Three directors and the two deputies. Or is there somebody, is there someone else? There's, there's things, people on the leadership team, myself and then the five. Okay. Tears. Yeah. The two deputies and exactly. Okay. Yep. All right. And today, technically, we have seven. So we have myself and the financial advisor director of engineering depth, the two deputy directors, director of maintenance and the director of ground transportation. So we're eliminating director of ground transportation and director of maintenance, adding director of innovation. And that creates a six leadership team. Thanks. What's a good number? I think it's a good number. It's, it's a better number than we have today. Currently, there are four of us today. Myself, Larry, Dave and Marie, that are on the leadership team managing the entirety of the staff. But you have. With this, she'll have other people that are doing some of the work. You got it. And that's actually a really good point. We've learned a lot over the last years, but specifically two years where when there was a transition, despite of how it happened, I personally, I was serving as both deputy directors and the acting director of aviation. Obviously that didn't last very long. Marie, Dave, Dave was promoted during that time. Frank, Marie and Larry were also given additional duties. Shelby also had many additional duties. Hannah has picked up an incredible amount of duties. So that, that does create, as I described it last time, some redundancies so that, that never happens again. So that there's, there's always backups to the positions, to the pillars, so to speak, or the four different branches there. And, and there's cross training availability. There's growth opportunities here at the airport. And then that I think has, has gotten a lot of attention from, from our entry level staff across the board. Of opportunities to stay here at the airport and grow, whether it's into a working form and position or a manager position or above. When you finally get this. Well, it will be approved. I'm assuming. So yeah. And then the new hires hired. Can you send us this with the names of the people that hold those. You got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really like that idea, Helen. So thanks for that. That would be great. I'm also, I'm glad to hear that the staff really supports this. There's opportunities for movement and some of the. Problems that you mentioned in previous meetings. Sort of were concerned and it sounds like this is going to address those. Just out of curiosity. I'm wondering how the organization determines whether a new position is a union position or a non-union position. So I've noticed that some of them say union. Some of them have X's. Not sure what the X's mean. Some of them. Identify. Ask me as, as the union. And it just sort of mentions in. Page five that the union staff increase 11% and the non-union staff. Increase 45%. Just sort of curious. A couple of different ways. I thought the basis of it is contractual with the, with the CBA agreement, the collective bargaining agreement. In that agreement, there's a number of ways. That lists every position in the city of Burlington. That is union. Under that. The American Federation of state. And this is one voice. That is one of the reasons. On that financial. Just underneath that financial chart of the footnotes. That. Five additional. Positions are now eligible for the union. They don't necessarily need to join the union, but they're eligible for the unit because of how it was contractually negotiated. In that previous. That's what the X is. And some of the positions. In the job description areas. Yeah. Yeah. So. They can join, but they're not required. They're not required to. That's the word. They're eligible to join the union. And I believe they can, they can make that determination on an annual basis. That did shift things because you, you'll see that there are administration folks that are now eligible for the union that were never previously. And that includes financial staff. Folks that help us in the office. So it is. So that's what we're looking for. It's financial staff. Folks that help us in the office. So it is a shift. And what leads to that shift for people who previously weren't, but now are eligible. Basically the contract, the CBA agreement and, and listing those particular. Job titles, office assistant, finance and admin assistant, executive assistant, those are all listed in the CBA. Right. And I think that's what made that determination and through a reorganization that there was that opportunity from the union perspective to change eligibility. So, so one of the assistants, it sounds like if you have, you're an assistant to somebody that you're potentially eligible to be a union member. And you said they could elect to do that or, and could they unelect and say, I've been in the union two years and doing nothing for me. So I want to get out. Yeah, that's right. Oh, they can. Yeah. And that's a great point, not necessarily an assistant, but another determination is, do you manage directly any other staff? A union member cannot manage another union member. That's why we have working foreman who are union. That are working with a team that are also that working foreman is not supervising. They're not managing that particular person. That's why those managers, just why they're such a big 45% increase on that number are not, you have to be non union. Otherwise that the whole CBA contract doesn't make sense, especially when you start looking at the bereavement section. And that way that's one reason it's important to get the union to review or change. It did. It changed numbers. It changed numbers. It increased numbers a little bit. It added eligibility to the union membership. And it did change recording. So they're no longer some of the, a lot of these jobs descriptions you'll see, they're not reporting to the director of maintenance any longer. The prior position. They're now reporting to those manager positions. Okay. After this real. So of that 11%, is that just net new positions? Or does that include roles that should become eligible? Of that 11% that, that includes the five positions that are, that are, I'm sorry. The 11% only includes. I think only one position. So I'll start two positions. The executive assistant. And the. That's right. Five positions. I'm sorry. What I'm thinking of it, there's only two brand new positions. Executive assistant, assistant, which is a brand new position. And the maintenance worker too. So those are the two new, then you take existing positions who are eligible for, who are now eligible. That's the five. Okay. Okay. Okay. Just underneath that charter, the financial adjustments. And you've mentioned that because we're almost at the end of this FY year. That the impact for this year is going to be. Really not me. But in a moment will be. But you do indicate that there will be an impact for next year's budget. But we do have a motion on the table that. Ask us to approve this plan. And I'm just. You know, there's just a flag going up in my mind saying, wait a minute, are we approving this plan before we know the impacts on the budget next year? Or are those impacts simply. In a general ballpark manner. The nine or seven. That's in a ballpark, right? Because that is assuming every position in our entire salary budget. Not just these no one's not, not as part of this real case. Right. An example of that is this fiscal year. We have savings in our salary. And I don't have $400,000 because we have not built prior positions. So this $313,000. Yeah. Another great reason that you're not seeing the budget amendment in this fiscal year. There's even if we were going to do this entire. Reorder. At the beginning of this fiscal year, we would still not need a budget. Because of the sales. Now there's an opportunity though, you're going to see a budget amendment. Out of salary for this fiscal year. Probably. So this, this is. Assuming maximum number of all FTEs higher. All at the same time, starting on July 1st. Is it going to be exactly $300,000? That's a problem. Absolutely. And that opportunity to look at before recommend the budget. Including the salary. We'll also. A future. Mission. Well, that's the high end, right? Because that is since everyone is hired on July 1st. That's the high. It won't be higher. That's correct. We hope it's close. That is fired people. And we haven't lost it. Yeah. It doesn't include. Dave and Larry and Hannah's bonus for doing all the work that nobody else was doing. Anything else you want to call? No, no. The only thing I would say is if approved tonight. Thank you. I'm preemptively thanking you. I can always use your support at the board of finance and city council. If there is an opportunity, as I mentioned before, to join us digitally. At Monday night's meeting. I absolutely appreciate that. Commissioners, any further discussion? Yes, great. One question. I was not at the last meeting. And I know that there were some. Public comments three. Concerning the growth. The airport, the impact on housing. I'm in an emergency and such. But. And I'm trying to balance the importance of that. With this reorganization, which I totally support. And I noticed on the first page, it mentioned some of the things that were going on. I'm trying to get back to this first page. Our second page mentions the. Related key goals. And the fourth bulletin item. Related key goals. To seek sustainability measures through. Leveraging advanced technology to offset. Carbon emissions. Inclusive of our capital projects. And I'm trying to get back to this first page. Our second page mentions the. Related key goals. And then the third bulletin item. Related key goals. Is in the aspect of. Of our capital projects. Which is a great goal. And I'm sure that those people. I would think that those people that spoke the last meeting. But support that. It's not as clear to me within the new positions, although you did allude to them. That Larry was going to be a part of that sustainability. You mentioned marketing. And innovation and such. just wondering if those goals there, I don't really know how to phrase the question under then. It would just seem as if that would be an important part and I'm sure that you agree with us and I just skim the job descriptions. I didn't see anything about sustainability. I know it's important to all of us here and I just don't want that to be swept under the rug. I'm sure that no one else does. I think you're hitting a couple of key points that are important to this reorganization of course and as you mentioned, of course this is going to help alleviate some of the day-to-day things that the leadership, particularly the leadership team, are trying to accomplish every day. Whether it's payroll to other very important things that the airport does but also takes away the time to focus on new initiatives, new sustainability goals, really the list can go on and on. I could label many, many things that we really do need to focus on that we cannot right now. So this inclusive of the list and the comments that we've heard many times, this reorganization is going to allow especially the leadership team and myself to focus on those real important sustainable goals to responsible growth goals and balancing all of that in between while allowing the managers to focus on implementing those goals and giving us the necessary feedback and data that we need to make policy changes to make real changes as part of the entire growth of the airport. And growth can be physical and it can be sustainable and it could be many, many different things. So allowing this reorganization to happen will really set the leadership team's time, leadership teams' time and availability to focus hard on those goals. Just a follow-up and that was a really good question. Can we anticipate you know when you do a I don't know if it's end of year, if you do a mid-year or three quarters of the way because you've got to hire these people and sort of get things going, a kind of report out of what you've been able to do that you couldn't before. What are the sustainability projects and you know climate change efforts or whatever that you now can do. Yeah that's great. I would love to see that just to get a sort of a check on that and a check for you as well like oh yeah I've got a report on this we better you better do some stuff. Not that I think you're pretty right about nothing. This is sort of the stuff we couldn't do before. This is the pedestal that took me four hours to coordinate today to be put back up after a pedestal. So that's a great thing. I'm serious four hours today because a tropical pedestal ranging and working it's just that kind of our director of engineering and environmental. Where did it fall? Since hand-to-hand car rental companies truck bringing in cars at the end of the day which is curious. Oh one of those and it's not just the pedestal that you punch in to go up to the gate. Yeah. Oh sorry. So I'll see you at the top. Thanks. Okay I'm feeling better already. Okay. That was on the ground. While he's also cruising I'm working with our engineering team and completing a geothermal project which is going to take millions of dollars and many years. Right. That's a pedestal. Every day. Yeah. No. I'm not sure. I'm a little in it. All right commissioners any other further discussion? All right. Hearing none I will call the question. All those in favor of recommending approval please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. All right. Aye. Aye. All those. That carries. Move on to item 5.02 which is relates to the ground lease for the for the hotels so I would want to entertain a motion to recommend to the board of finance city council the approval of an amendment to the ground lease for the B.T.B. Hotel LLC. But you hear such a motion. So moved. You're on a roll tab. Well I know no one else is stepping up. I'm just letting you roll. I'm in your heels. I don't mean that. Another exciting next step for the airport. It has been intense and challenging at times and really productive negotiation over the last year, year and a half with BTV Hotel LLC. This originally came to the commission and we can link it if it's easier. Back in 2018, we were, yeah, 2018, April 27th, 2018 and we presented a really solid form for a hotel agreement. We went through some preliminary site plan efforts or not us, but the developer did. We also realized through the decisions of the Federal Aviation Administration that the site plan had to be rebocated because of certain navigational aids and radars that were being impacted and then COVID started in 2020. We had decided to pause, we meaning collectively with the developer team and the company, firm as well as the hotel management company to hold on, that's the least, wait for the market, wait for the industry, wait to make sure that it actually made sense and make sure that recovery after COVID and the pandemic really was moving forward. He's got to do that too. So like I said, over the last year, I've been working with Jeremy Farkas of the Miscay Wall firm as well as Jeff Glasberg who has helped us out on many other real estate transactions, both of them have been helping renegotiate this lease and adjust it to better fit the industry, new market hotel lease negotiations as well as the bank, which is maybe the most important thing so that the hotel development company can fund this project. The two major changes in this entire ground lease is the rent structure. That's a major change. Under the old agreement, there was a guaranteed minimum to a percentage of revenue being produced by the hotel or percentage of growth revenues to the hotel. This is shift to a ground lease model or a traditional ground lease model where it is now $1.50 per square foot cost with escalations associated with leasing the space underneath the site. That in and of itself is that guaranteed minimum amount which does equate to very similar projections under the last ground lease. What is different here is now we're able to coordinate, collaborate and market specifically the hotel parking but also parking in general so that we have a brand new what they are referring to as a perk and fly program which they've used at other hotels and other locations in their company. That's the second change is the development partner is still DEW Corporation locally. They're going to be the ones building the hotel, structing it and they now have a new development partner called Call Win, Management Incorporated. They're out of New Hampshire. They've also purchased a few hotels in the local area and they have many hotels down in the New Hampshire or Portsmouth area. That's also a major change is that hotel partnership. There's still everything else that's still labeled in the agreement which is the guarantee from these two companies for payment. There's also the capital reserve accounts associated with this building that they would have to fund and maintain that balance throughout the 49 and a half year lease. With this change and of course going to Border Finance and City Council after this, they'll be able to continue redesigning the hotel. It's going to take some time. They're going to get back in with Larry and our team to redesign the hotel, rebrand the hotel. It will be a different brand. Although I believe right now it still will be under the Marriott chain and we still have the right for approval of that brand. It'll increase the number of rooms associated with this hotel which is of course why it needs to go through the redesign, repermining and then getting folks that are meeting. We had a great meeting with Jesse Baker and Paul Conner. I met with them yesterday and we talked to them a little bit about this as well. So we're excited to move this forward. Some changes to the financial plan. The best part about the rent structure is the forecasted revenues to the airport. Under both scenarios we wanted to compare apples to apples. We were splitting. We're splitting a lot of these revenues and a lot of these sources across the airport. This new forecast again, it's a forecast but the guarantee now is in the land versus the revenue. The forecast is it does add revenue sources to the airport over the old forecast. So an increase in the revenue. Is it more stable? It's more stable. It's related to the land that doesn't change. I mean I don't really care. Yeah. There's 10 hotel rooms rented or over. That's exactly right. It's much more stable so that guarantee, even though we had a guarantee under the old structure, that guarantee is now tied to that land. The increase or the escalation on the land is tied to the revenue. So if they have a really strong year then we're going to increase that per square foot rate based on that. I just have a question. Part of the design. I know you're going to redesign it but is there going to be, it looks like there's a bridge that goes to the top of the parking garage. But in lousy weather, guys were staying at the hotel, parking and flying, and then wanted to try it into the airport. That's my plane. I'm not sure I want to walk over the top of the garage. Is there going to be a nice walkway underneath, between cars? So there is. So it's not going to be a bridge. Well it says bridge on the picture but I don't know. It's on page 17. Maybe that's an old one. I don't know. I'm just curious if that's part of the plan, right, to have it as far as what the floor is more interactive. And we'll be, we'll put that by DRV as a nice path through the parking garage all labeled blind and accessible. I'll talk to that. Yeah. That was part of the permit. That's a condition in the permit. That's a condition of permit. The entrance to the hotel is also changing. We originally had the entrance coming off of the airport drive. Now it's coming into airport circle, the driveway of the airport, and either going directly into the hotel like Larry said, and there'll be a whole designated entrance to the hotel in the parking garage on the first level and then designated parking positions which we can control. And then like Larry said, a walkway, very, very designated walkway to the south sidewalk going across to the terminal and if you want you can go upstairs on the elevator as well. Thanks. Where's that picture? Where's that picture? On page 17 of the which is down. Oh, an option agreement. Yes. Well, it's kind of a bridge. I was just curious. I mean, I figured everything's going to look different in the final analysis. Yeah, it's going to be great. Yeah, I need to take that out. That is actually a very old picture. Yeah. That's on the south. Oh, that's the south side. That's on the south side. This is okay. So this is the. Oh, I remember that now. We're looking at it over there but not. So that was the original. Yeah. That's why I included this. This is the original option agreement which is still active. We have never signed. That's I think this is important. We have never signed a ground lease with the hotel. We've only signed an option agreement and I can smell it too. It smells like glycol or something. Oh, great. Oh, maybe when you go up a little bit. So that's the originally signed option agreement. Yeah. The only thing that's changed, which has amended in other amendments to the option agreement is that picture. Okay. And the signature. Well, my question still stands. I'm not regretting. Right. Is there any other? Oh, yes, Greg. Nick, the agreement or the contract calls for the use of 75 spaces or 80 spaces, do you ever have something like that? Yep. Yep. What do you see as the impact on the parking situation for other people? Yeah. Great point. Especially after we just talked about hitting those 90, 95 plus percentages occupancy in the parking garage. The agreement also calls that we control parking. Meaning if we need to go down to 15 spaces on a particular week, weekend, the heavy year or whatever the timeframe is, we can work with them to adjust that as we need. We can also go up to 100 if we need to, if we know there's a big event and high capacity needs at the garage. One of the great benefits of the logistics of when this is going to come online is we're going to collect data that we've never had before because people can now pre-purchase parking in our garage by booking a hotel room and paying for your garage at the same time. We're going to know ahead of time what our occupancy needs, at least for the hotel, is going to be. The situation in the garage where Hannah has spent a tremendous amount of time this year in particular moving employees out of the garage, moving our crew parking out of the garage and also coordinating with the beta technologies who was using the garage and now using a surface lot and eventually they'll be moving to their own surface lot when they're finished with the construction. That'll allow all of these parking to shift. Hotel in the garage we're taking up existing surface lot with building a hotel so that's going to shift to a different location and then shifting our employee lot and our crew lots a little bit further away. Do I see some challenges on peak years or peak weeks or vacations and things? Yeah I do and that's why I think it's incredibly important to put in those access control measures and the payment methods on every single one of our surface lots so that we can make these shifts an hour before if we need to or not even make them shift. Maybe we already have a tiered approach if you want a short term or really it's going to be called their long-term surface lot and you're old paying a little bit cheaper well maybe there's an opportunity for a different lot a little bit further away but having the date access control and payment methods out there I think is going to be critical for all of these dominoes to line up. We're the landlord for them is that correct for the snowpots and I'm just wondering how taxes work and I'm just thinking from my point of view I own something and I improve that land that my taxes increase and I'm wondering is it foreseeable that the airport's taxes would increase as a result of this development? No so as part of this grant at least the property taxes are paid by the tenant and then you know room and meals tax and all that would also be paid of course by that as well. Just one other question and I almost hate to ask this question but based upon something that happened I don't know three weeks ago in terms of the security threat of the person on the airplane just wondering is there's just some crazy people out there if this hotel was going to have a security person on staff? Because that hotel is going to be close to everything right? Sure yeah absolutely I don't we have never we've never talked about that we can certainly we can certainly talk about it they're going to have 24-7 staff which is not security but and we'll still have the police department South Burlington Police department as our mutual aid partners and our airport operations team here 24-7 might not yeah we would be really responding to the to the hotel unless police is actually needed in their situation but I can certainly raise that up we haven't gotten into the details yet of specifically with Collin although I believe they are spot on the best we've gone through several of them over the last three years but the best hotel management company to work for and I think they'll have a lot of experience especially at airports what they do and can they? They've done things like this at other airports because I was I mean other this isn't a brand new concept so it I don't know JFK must have some policy going for it there that's right from Allison thanks yeah from our perspective and from TSA and from Robert David or and to it TSA really doesn't have any issues they've never commented on issues I don't think they can regulate any any of those types of scenarios but it would be very interesting to hear what they do at other airports in this proximity to right so I don't just know that I mean even there have been problems with laser pointers oh yeah and if you're in the proximity of the airport of it taking off the landing you know an individual might be deterred if they happen to see security person at the front of the front door yeah great point great point we do have you know they severed we have the that same yeah the control axis it's already in place so it's no different in on the air right and more more reason to build that north concourse addition is that what actually it would lock the tour of the line of sight to a parked aircraft right there right otherwise yes it's the right kind of otherwise that pilot's gonna I mean there's nutty people out there yes it's true we'll do all the weird things it's true we need to build it yeah ASAP I might add I can't believe it yeah when you're done take a photo Mr is any other conversation on this Nick I just had a pair of questions uh when you when you talked about the map of that we knew right according to the old run what what what occupancy percentage is being targeted for in that analysis when we did the initial forecast years ago it was very high it was 80 plus percent occupancy on the forecast which was you know it's it's gonna happen of course during certain periods at times but the average occupancy is not gonna hit that right this the industry average and I don't know offhand but the industry average we used a more conservative conservative number more than 60 percent occupancy and we compared 60 and 60 to both the old forecast in this case so 60 was the basis and do you have a feel as to the at what point in occupancy occupancy becomes economically unviable for the hotel to function um I don't I don't think I know that you're not the hotel expert but I don't know if they express that in part of the conversation no I know they do hold on to their budget pretty tight but I don't know what their occupancy especially average occupancies would hit a threshold to not cover their expenses yeah okay because they're they're like like you're all referring to they own the building they manage maintained we we own the land yeah I just didn't know if they said like oh yeah it hits 40 we're gonna have to come back to you to renegotiate the ranch or something like that they could try okay all right all those in oh this is good wait a bit yes all those in favor of uh recommending approval of the ground lease please signify by saying I hi hi you posed complete sign of 5.02 item six construction update from Larry all right one more update I have from the update is I said in the update that we incurred anticipating to submit three grant applications on April 3rd we did it was the three where the expand turtle apron design only grant the taxiway alpha taxiway c intersecting which is in addition to what we received last year to complete that full taxiway alpha rehabilitation and the pavement management plan update grant application for then that brings us up to five this year applications in which excluded the south apron taxiway g extension and the north terminal renovation we still anticipate spending three more grants this year two by May 1st and one by July 31st this year so and then I did also make an error in here I said at one point that we had done an IFB on the potential or use reuse plan that we will be applying for by May 1st no IFB has been completed because I'm not sure we're going to leave one yet because of the cost is going to potentially be less than what's required for that to happen yeah and with that if there's any questions answer them Mr. is there any questions for Larry? No all right thank you Larry thank you item seven is the financial update standing in for Marie I'm not going to say much but no again another strong month another strong month I think we are on for the most part on our projections or rather our percentage over both the expenses and the revenues I'm really not going to add too much into it. Marie always does such a really good job with your bullet points there I know a really good number that that we can share again I know I think every single month we say the same thing but we hit another revenue record in the parking garage full garage revenue it all makes sense and we're a single day record as well as the monthly records so another great point for all of these capital projects both that are Larry is working on right now and it's of the future we have an aggressive capital plan but again we have some of the highest cash on hand that we've we've ever had over 6.8 million dollars with no no funds due to the city. Okay and Nick is part of that revenue on hand is that include the 3.9 million still available under the ARPA grants? No that's not cash okay so those those grants are reimbursable so that remaining amount is still with the FA that we would have to apply for reimbursement okay good and I think all three grants have a small amount of remaining out there but the FA is still it's a lot of money to reimbursement for stuff we've applied for which is that's right because we have a lot of big projects that they have to back the percent they'll be closed about so they have to track the data so far. The AIP is not in here yeah I was just looking for that. I know it's in size yeah I mean just on one credit to level away for the final payment which is over 200 dollars on close out of tax away gone. Well we receive both except for a portion of that but another million there but then just tip along to another million and a half so that alone is two and a half million plus a whole host of other ones so yeah. Commissioner has any questions for Nick on the financials? I have one question one observation so the question first is on the repairs and maintenance line I see the work at 21% of the spend year to date and we're 58% of the way through the year great if it's January financials so just just wanted some perspective on why we're trailing and if we're going to catch up or what do you see happening I'll definitely get back to you. I don't know the full answer to that I know like Larry mentioned earlier that's going to that line item specifically is going to start getting hit more and more Dave and Larry just had the both teams landside and airfield team painting in front of our terminal we have changes to our asphalt and crack ceiling depending on what we can fit in this particular year so there is a tremendous need for additional maintenance and repairs specific to this line item that needs to go in that doesn't also and one of the things I'm unsure of is I'm not sure if it also or doesn't capture some of these other larger programs that we're talking about specifically in the parking garage because we have a two million dollar effort going into the garage with updates the lights and fire systems so yeah we I can I can definitely answer that more thoroughly when oh yeah okay thank you and then I just wanted to call out on the recovery metrics we actually had another one cross the hundred percent thresholds last month the landing fees are now back higher than they were precode so three of the five measures are back parking is at 90% so with everything going on I think we're going to pass that one pretty soon too so it's nice to see that we're almost fully recovered and we're still only 85% on passenger that's what's really amazing so parking EFCs which really is tied to the landings and passenger numbers and then car rentals I think you've seen for many many months now over 100% and now the landing fees at 100% it's amazing well bigger planes after you're playing more people and you charge more for parking no we haven't changed parking in almost 15 years oh that we're going to change parking yeah is it under considered no it's the way you phrase that it was you know I guess it's always under consideration you know there's we also want to make sure that we're even with the market and our region we're at port of Maine and it was only $14 for the 24-hour period of time I think our brush is pretty equivalent to theirs always under consideration and there's pros and cons are we going to lose passengers are we going to gain revenue how many not passengers but parkers so always under consideration of what that fluctuation well that's also a mechanism capacity too right that's exactly right you can increase right you decrease number of parkers you know as long as the revenue goes up more states that's what we do with housing except we want to do the opposite right that concludes item seven we're up to item eight which is noise data okay so we've had we had only six additional comments from our meeting last month to now and one thing to note is we added the comments by individual address overlaid onto the radar track density image that we have that was published previously master plans so it gives you a good visual for how those where those addresses align with the takeoff and landing of all the flights on the runway we also added on btbsound.com we've added another map that's more up to date with all shows all phases of the um residential sound installation program so that's right on the first page btbsound.com on the left column sound installation program but right on there and it gives uh more information and a little a quick timeline of uh these phases in terms of where they're at and what's upcoming for that we will be even updating that map even further to be overlaid on the aerial photo so you can really get a grasp of what you're looking at yep they have added um an aerial photo and they're working on updating that right now so thank you for adding that to the website that's that's that's really good we're going to keep brainstorming too how we can add more how we can incorporate one of the conversations we had with South Burlington staff uh yesterday was also how to collaborate to make sure South Burlington will use every citizen but South Burlington in particular how they can see these this information our updates a little bit more easier commissioners any question for Hannah oh yes who's the thanks um looking at the noise data charts it appears that there were no comments from Winooski on the pie chart one yeah i've noticed that too i think based on the the overlay with the flight data there are so just wanted to check on the accuracy there well if they made comments to the guard they don't show up on this but i think what she's saying is the comments by address makes it look like there are Winooski comments okay uh oh okay for uh noting that i'll check on that and then if there's something that needs to be um updated uh or amended i will uh post that on board docs okay thank you um and then i had a second question really appreciate that new map uh the sun alone installation program map that you pointed out on btv sound when when do i meet might we anticipate information about phase two locations so we are okay i get mixed up with the phases but this year we're applying for a grant to do the next 54 homes which is now done at 53 because i think one person's back now at the last minute and as part of that application which is millions of dollars to do those three homes will be the additional monies to do the next right now we're anticipating another 50 we will be updating that mapping to show which which homes we're anticipating to go to next and that's being worked on right right now honestly because we want to also overlay it over a you know an aerial photo so people have a better feel of what they're looking at when they blow up where they are so that that will be coming out um in the next month i would say because we have to apply for that grant by phase first so i'm waiting on that information right now so it's close okay that's great thank you for the update yep all right commissioners any other questions for him all right we will move on to item 10 commissioner irons we did not receive any commissioner items in advance but is there anything that a commissioner wants to add at this time i'll just let you know i was re-appointed to serve on the airport commission as a council one more year you got me just so you know and raman yeah hi um can everybody hear me okay for some reason my head's okay very good uh just a couple items um so i know that uh i think it was last week we had um the beta area hit a gas line and um affected a bunch of people on the airport and just wondered you know people are sort of talking about like if something like that happens how do they know kudakal because there's no like direct line to the actual people that are doing the construction and then it went to you know vfa and then it went back to the ops and then vfa ended up escorting um gas people and so just wondering how you know in the future we want to have you know if any of these things should occur which for sure they will you know communication wise yeah unless vfa was escorting folks inside the building in in some capacity we had our operations team and maintenance team out there uh we were trying to track down exactly what was going on and hitting all of the tenants that potentially were impacted um and then of course beta being the well not beta but the contractor that's right beta being the ones that hit the line uh we can we can put together a communication um construction plan especially for those tenants if that if that would be helpful i think it's a good idea because right now it seems like you know i don't think that construction guys know who i don't even know if they knew that they hit the line or if they did that this was impacting like all these other people around them um so yeah i think it might be um helpful and and one i mean one of the things as we're talking about it right now one of the things that we do like to do i think it's really important because otherwise what happens is there's many lines of communication all happening all at once so that's why we do like to coordinate things through our operations department every single one of those um and then that could be coordinated with uh the direct contact within our maintenance team when the time is right uh that particular event did hit uh yeah many many of our tenants and then we were able to resolve that data as well yeah the problem was we didn't know exactly who was impacting by that's right you know because we want to hangers that were on those right yeah cool um and then the other questions there've been an update on the the other hanger in the valley uh yes so that is currently out to bid and the bids are due for leasing that hanger uh this friday april 7th okay great so no hold-ups on that bid then nothing that i would be able to talk about uh during this meeting yeah but i mean but the in other words the deadline for this friday is going forward that's correct oh gotcha no hold-ups i see yeah correct we are as of this moment in time the bids are due on april 7th with no intention of of delay any further perfect awesome um uh and i guess the the last thing is the interesting um the sort of idea of the aviation field day or green mountain air show is that at this point it's just something that the airport is going to be listening on part of the big um committee yeah there's a lot of work that still needs to happen before i think i can brief out additional additional uh perspectives from the airport yeah what what robin is referring to is there's a possibility of a of a potential static air show happening potentially next year um uh but we're we're still very very very early on in the in the planning stages what do you mean by static air show planes not moving you just go and see them you just go and see nothing flies nothing flies like an antique car show assumption well i mean you don't look at the cars okay that's right and and there's a lot of ideas right now floating all over this on what this would look like but yeah from my perspective i think it's it's it's very soon to publicly uh brief about this yeah cool that's all i got thank you well it's down i didn't oh sorry greg i was just uh wondering again i wasn't at the last meeting but i'm just taking a look as kanna suggested in terms of the uh the perlton airport to a website i see that we had um a women of aviation week and march 6 through 12 maybe you talked about it last time but i just noticed that robert's picture is on there too uh and i don't know if she wants to talk about that or if nick wants to talk about that but it would just be interesting to hear a little bit about that program and and hannah i'm not i'm actually going to hand it over to you and robin uh hannah helped with uh and robin with her team and hannah did an amazing job coordinating putting this all together to uh highlight the issue around the top one of that sure um so robin and um forgive me the acronym of uh wouldn't it be international he reminded yeah so it's wai women in aviation national um so we registered our event so uh people could um it was part of that community and um we had a like simulator that we got to borrow from bfa they generously donated that to us for a few days uh so we had a lot of um actually a lot of young poison girls get to take a spin on the simulator and we actually had a lot of interest um i would say from maybe three or four people who came out specifically to get more information about flight school and what opportunities we had here at the airport so uh it was great it was great to be involved with that this year and i look forward to continuing our relationship with them and having more events like that for women in aviation week next year did you guys start that i saw there was a youtube video yeah i didn't want to play it while we were in the field it's actually featured on our on our facebook page and it's on our website too uh ben and helen are also featured as um some of the prominent women of uh vtv and we get to make that make that film our short clip uh in in celebration of women in aviation week so if you haven't already i would encourage you to check it out yeah it was it was super cool and so that piece that women of aviation week is put out by uh it was a grassroots movement by this canadian um 501 3c and they uh has it's now grown and grown and grown and there was over 100 000 participants globally worldwide that did all kinds of different events from inviting girls to airports to you know similar to what we did which was a non-flying event and um and then everybody submits their events and they have these like pink airplane fly it forward so you see the just the thousands of of young women that took part in it so it was super fun to partner with brilington airport and to be on the secure side and the insecure insecure the non-secure side of the airport and um to see how many people had fun with that and and the employees were great about talking about what they do and and here at the airport so yeah it was super fun you had some female flight instructors come out too and i know a lot of the young girls get a lot out of that so good to interact with yeah it was instructor so yeah it was cool good time all right we'll move on to item oh i'm sorry we skipped over i wasn't gonna say anything item not i'm just kidding before director this was my brain so item nine i won't play the plane director yeah so i have a couple of great updates i i'm gonna start with an amazing week that we had and it just i mean it's only wednesday right now but an amazing week we were visited by the secretary of the air force over the weekend he visited the air national guard and toward their facility we also had a very prominent VIP multiple VIPs here today we had first lady dr jill biden here i was able to meet her and and also listen in on the speeches that were given by dr biden the secretary of education our governor scott as well as mayor weinberger senator welch congresswoman ballon and i know i'm missing somebody in there no senator sanders was not there but his wife did also make a speech as well and the concept of this which is ties in exactly to what robin and anna were just talking about is education and growing the young folks to explore a career in a technical field and whether that's aviation or a different technical field she's can she's going around the entire contrary or multiple cities i don't exactly your schedule but going around she was just in main this morning at a technical school and a college and then she visited here posted by beta technologies inside of the the hangar which is of course a city hangar but highly renovated by beta technologies is an absolutely powerful and big event it was really really fun david and his entire team and it was out on the ramp as well we're able to coordinate directly with secret service and the white house staff as well as the pilot of the aircraft and got some very special tours as well great event a lot learned and a lot featured for growing to an airport on a national level about education and promoting technical and in our case aviation really really exciting day today quick update on the north renovation project in the terminal we have carpeted tiles the ceiling painted everything we're now preparing to open up that new space the floor is built for where the old escalators are some of our furniture not for that space but other spaces has finally arrived after almost eight months of delay so we're getting ready to to go to the next phase of our north renovation project we still have but certainly some some many weeks ahead of us but it is looking absolutely fantastic angle berth is doing a phenomenal job out there next subject is airline negotiations we are very very intensely working with our airline partners and renegotiating our airline use and lease agreement and when i say renegotiating there's there's not many changes however the footprint of the airport as i was explaining earlier on the expenses out on the airfield we do the same thing with the terminal building we have revenue from all sorts of sources whatever is remaining is then calculated to the airlines because we have additional space we have an opportunity to actually decrease our rental rate but again it's all math decrease rental rate increase square footage so our revenues continue to go up but we have we have some opportunity to discuss with the airlines how we can better serve them better encourage growth here and work on a right now we're working on a potentially a three-year agreement three years so that it ties in with additional renovations and growth here at the airport i do want to just quickly talk about the security event that we had on march 12th we had a talk about an extremely intense but what i felt paired afternoon as prepared as possible the higher staff did a phenomenal job not just the airport staff but the airlines and of course all of our mutual aid south burlington pd state police burlington pd and some of our federal partners at tsa and the fbi really really fantastic outcome to what could have been a very complicated situation the ultimate outcome was we have as the chief of police and in burlington said we have a safe plane we have a safe airport and a really safe outcome at the end of the day and nobody was injured or hurt during that event uh dav also hosted an after action event with all of these partners again so we can really all come together and understand what can we have done better what could have changed what didn't do really really outstanding that will continue to incorporate in our emergency plans so just it was it was a very tricky event a very serious event and the team did just a fantastic job and then the final item i have is a i just want to quickly brief a visit that dav and i there's probably under the weather a little bit but we had a visit to my counterpart in portland main i visited the airport we looked at the terminal we looked at ideas for what our terminal new expansion could look like we've looked at an amazing geothermal facility that they have installed and how it operates and the expenses associated with it we looked at a recycling uh glycol plant which was absolutely incredible they're they're literally taking sucking sucking glycol off of the ground putting it into this machine machines or boilers and tanks putting it back into the trucks and respraying it on aircraft at the same facility it's it's a complicated and they have a long history of doing it so they're really really in tune with it but some those are the things that though that's actually a really good example of a thing that we can start doing after this reorganization and putting more over there he's sure yeah we need to get going yeah yeah so i i just want to say thank you to paul brad barry and zach sunquist for hosting us the deputy director and the deputy director that dav and i were able to visit and get a lot of great ideas learn a lot of great things look learn what we're doing really really well already and learn from them as well and the the offer was reciprocal so that they could come out here and visit with us whatever they wanted to put it was a great trip great visit learned a lot and that's all i have for you today cool comments or questions for net all righty we'll move on to item 11 which is follow up items 11 01 i think has been addressed so we can take that off the list it's very cool works of putting that together uh 11 02 q permits for taxi nick anything you wanted to mention on that yep so i i did attend a vehicle for vehicle for higher meeting at dot tell brollington as well as a transportation utility and an energy committee meeting both of which have taken on roles of administering and administering the taxi licenses and and policies within the city of brollington and at this airport i don't have any updates or requests at this time with the q permits although after these meetings there's some really great ideas and what we're going to be doing is really asking our partner airports how they're doing and what we can do better at the airport into the downtown area so that we have additional capacity especially around our midnight bank of flights that are coming in so we have available wheels out here to get folks to wherever they need to go so nothing nothing more to add tonight but definitely i would feed that onto the to do this and then i am of 11 03 briefing on north terminal building any nothing really on that today yeah no we're we're continuing the design uh i think jeff asked for both financials and uh the concepts when they're ready but we're still going through some of these architectural designs um and we'll you know i'm expecting maybe maybe mid summer to bring something back to the future okay great anything else that anyone wants to add as a follow-up item that came out of today's conversation i mean that wraps up item 11 item 12 is adjournment i'll move adjournment right let's keep them let's keep it going all those in favor of adjournment we seem to probably say hi hi hi post never is all right thank you