 Hello. Hey, Stefan. Well, we'll see who shows up with the new zoom link. Yeah. I do. It asked me to make an account. So I just signed up as a guest for today, but I'll make an account. Next time. Okay. Got a good weekend. I did. Lots of fun. Lots of good ideas. I love that email from. Man, it was pretty good. Yeah, yeah. It's nice to. That the presentation was well received, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Curious what the feedback is going to be like from the other members. I'm sure there'll be a divided opinions, but. The way the way it goes. Yeah. Is that the pronunciation? Apologize if I missed it. I can't hear you. Yes, yes, yes. That's the correct pronunciation. All right. Hello. There's a correct pronunciation. Good. Welcome. Good to have you here. We will wait again. I don't know what's going to happen with this new zoom. Link. Hopefully enough people got it and the word got out, but that was rather sudden on Friday that we changed it all. Look, as people read the discord, the. Should be. Yeah. Should be fine. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We're dolphins in the wrong meeting. I just see he's. He joined the wrong one. I got an email notification that when the first person joins the meeting. So hopefully he gets the word. I guess I better. Send. I can send him a note at least. I think my zoom is frozen. Okay. Well. Hey, we're also. Hello. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Stefan just left. I think he disconnected the. Should be back. His camera froze and then he left. So. One second ago. Was there other people in the old. Other call or. No. Was just. Me. Thanks. Was your weekend. Good. Good. Nice. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. I swear to God. Was yours. It's pretty good. Played a lot of, a lot of gaming. It was a game. Came out. Last Thursday. So took Friday off and spend the weekend gaming. I still haven't said something. What he's saying. So he has said. To be gone. It worked. Like me the other day. Was just. When it's going to start. To say everything. Unbelievable. Of course. A problem always happened. You know. When they should have the right time. Perfect timing. I was going. A retra and Alex. Yeah, it's going great. It's been a nice weekend so far. Yeah, it's been a nice weekend so far. What do you mean so far? It's finished weekend. Are you new to the call? Yes, yes. I joined first time. Okay. Cool. What brings you here? I am mostly interested in hyper leisure and on credits and. Got to know about zero knowledge. Proofs and other. These kinds of cryptographic protocols. Yeah. Are you like a student or more professional? I was student. Cool. You're familiar with other hyper ledger project like in D. Or Aries. I've worked in fabric. Fabric. What fabric and. Yes. And that was the first project I came across and started working. And after that I got. I interested in mostly the hyper leisure. And on credits and great projects. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not good at getting a lot of attention. It's fairly new. And it's interesting. Well, fairly new, fairly new as a project of its own. Because before it was part of Indy. But having an on credits and its own project is, I think it's. When was it? Like November. Around November. When, when what was it? The unknown creds project was like officialized. Yeah. I should say so. Yeah. Last, last. The end of the last year. Yeah. All right. It's pretty new. Something stuff. Yeah. Stephen is having issues. Maybe we can try to. Do. Yeah. So. Should we cancel that? Yeah. We can wait like five more minutes and. Okay. You're talking about Mike's ladder, Alex. I think bike ladder, if I understand correctly, is more involved in the unknown credits 2.0. So every week it alternates. So this week is an on credits 1.0. And next week will be an on credits 2.0. Not too sure, but I know he's the. That's true. Yeah. And also the. The other call is later because Mike cannot. Yeah. This time understand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, like when you did your presentation. For you remember. Yeah. That's funny. Always at the right time. Good thing you could connect back because. Yeah. Yeah. I connected from the, from the mobile phone. Yeah. It was okay. You could hear you and the video was fine. Did you attend the workshop? Last week? No, I did not know about the workshop. I got to know about this in the discord. So I joined. I actually applied for the hyperlegal mentorship program. In an on credits. Yeah. I got selected. Yeah. I think. To interact with the community. Yeah. Karen was supposed to mention, but there is a, so there was the first and on credit workshop last week. It was like three hour and a half and it was very good. And there's a recording on YouTube. If you want to watch it, I think he'll give like a very, very good. Overview of an on credit feature and what's possible and. The direction it's taking. I would strongly recommend that. Could put you up to speed. Yeah. Sure. If you just look on the YouTube for the hyper ledger channel. There should be a video titled like an on credits workshop. Something like that. Yeah. A real to a network issue. Yeah. I found it. Yeah. So, you know, just, there's some very good slides. It's mostly Stefan presenting some stuff. There's some slides. There's also like a lab. That you can go and create an account. I think it's still up. There should be some details in there somewhere. Or if you go in the, the discord. There's a channel and on credits workshop. Where there's like a few links. That you can look at. So it's, it's pretty long. Like it's three hour and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the pieces, it's separated in three parts or four parts. But it's, it's pretty good. So the, the first, like three. Two hour and a half, three hour, like Stefan goes over the, the concepts, you know, I'm on credits, how they work, why they're important. And how, how they are different than other types of verifiable credentials. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that goes into more hands-on exercise where you publish, like schema and issue credential to a mobile wallet. And then the second, at the end, it's two presentation as Rodolfo presents how to use an on credits on another ledger, which was, I believe Cardano. Is that right? Rodolfo. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So how that can be made. Like, you know, like we're looking at the, the, the, the documentation using it with, um, like a did web method and some, like browser wallet. And so the, the end part is like the, the sort of ledger agnostic side of add on credits. Uh, which is the, the, where they are pushing for, because historically on on credits where only usable on, a different type of blockchain technology. So you say you use Fabric, which Fabric is a type of blockchain and Indy is a different type of blockchain that is strictly catered to identity, managing identity as Fabric is more based on transactions and well, there's transaction to on Indy but the use case is a bit broader for Fabric as Indy is more, it was designed specifically for identity and issuing credentials. And then the reason they wanted to separate AnonCreds you can sort of issue and manage the whole life cycle of AnonCreds using other things than Indy, right? So that can be the, with the web web server or other ledger like Rodolfo presented with Cardano. And I think there's also a proof of concept with Fabric somewhere. I'm not too sure, however, but I think I heard that. Okay. To make it more. Okay, yeah, thanks for that. I will, yeah, I'll go through it. Yeah, yeah. It's important to know a bit the history, you know, like the where things came from to understand the new decision and new discussions that happen. For the mentorship program, I know Stephen Coran wanted to touch on that today. Unfortunately, you know, I'm just a guy I don't know much about it. I don't work for a ledger. Do you know Rodolfo about the mentorship program? No, no, I only heard the title, but I don't know. All right. Well, I think that will be it. Yeah, cool. Sorry, I know it's a bad first experience, so I'll retry. Usually it's not like this. Usually there's more people in the class, but there's a few problems this morning, apparently. OK, OK, no issue. OK, we'll see you next week. All right, see you, Alex. And see you, Rodolfo. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.