 I'm a parent of a stillborn baby. I lost my wee girl Erin. Wait for a scan. Went into the room and I said to the midwife, I don't think the baby's here. I think the baby's passed away. It was her first child. We had a little two bedroom house. You never think it's going to happen to you. And I just thought, is this real? Is this what life is? I had a mis mis carriage in April 2019 and I was given no aftercare at all from the hospital. We didn't know what to do. We didn't know how to deal with things. We didn't want to go out of the house. We were just going to the graveyard every day. We were buried a wee girl. And basically we were left. Nobody contacted us. Nobody came and seen us. Nobody left the phone. Nothing. Nobody left the hospital. It was kind of like, OK, that's you. Your baby's died. You just have to get on with it. There was counselling but I didn't feel comfortable. And even the counselling situation, the six months to 18 months waiting list, me and my husband went away because my husbands aren't right when you have time together. One night I was sitting with my husband and I said, listen, I'm not going to go down the depression route. I need to do something for parents. So me and my husband looked up retreats or aftercare after you've lost a baby and we were looking for places to go away. And then we said, why don't we come up with a retreat? So it's like, what benefited us? Like we were going on holiday. So I was kind of like, why don't we do something like a log cabin that gets them that time away just to relax with each other to discuss what's happened. I'm just proud of him that Julie does. She worked tirelessly through the COVID. Every week she would do a wee check-in with all the parents to make sure they're okay. Unfortunately, the babies were still dying during the time of the lockdown. She was making sure that these parents were getting the right care. She understands the pain that these mothers are going through. She cares. That is the biggest work that she cares.